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Title: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: galeniko on July 02, 2012, 04:25:51 AM
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Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: kh300 on July 02, 2012, 06:40:18 AM
They're liars and thieves. Telling young nerdy kids it isn't about looks or money, its this secret potion they can sell you. But I give them credit for making so much money off something so stupid. PUA's are a fucking joke and don't get shit in real life. Is it really that hard to say hi to a girl? fuck.
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: Stark on July 02, 2012, 09:38:33 AM
You go to places, you talk to woman, you keep chatting until you reach gold.

How fucking hard can it be?
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: mogulgangi on July 02, 2012, 09:43:41 AM
due to lack of other possibilities, ive read his the game book while i was in prison.

what an absolute load of diarrhea, most likely also pure fictional novel.

same goes for all the other dating gurus.

oh brother, they think those pick up lines are any good. ::)

other then that, they basicaly point out the obvious for how an average guy should behave/prepare for a date.

even if some of the stories are true, they arent impressive to begin with.

yeah no shit, when you have money to travel around, you get around ::)

i couldnt find anything useful within all the hundreds of pages.

what do you people think of him and other socalled gurus?

I agree and disagree with you..I read the book and admit to learning several basics in approach and concersaional skills who one would never think of masterfully plan..the plan they outline is totally effective but your own creativity has to be put in place...I don't agree in doing magic tricks..aside from the magic and maybe desperate moves made by each owns insecurities, the basics of control, movement, question and value gathering taught Is extremly effective if you pur your own personality ..saying "hi" is such an amateur move..thinking that "conversation" is all you need is yet another move that can be easily destroyed by dudes who have creativy game and good skills
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: Army of One on July 02, 2012, 09:45:32 AM
I think those books just teach you no matter who you are, its a numbers game, with some needing far more approaches than others to strike gold.
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: mogulgangi on July 02, 2012, 09:48:00 AM
You go to places, you talk to woman, you keep chatting until you reach gold.

How fucking hard can it be?



Another getbig stud who never fails with women
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: Stark on July 02, 2012, 09:50:27 AM


Another getbig stud who never fails with women

I am happily married for six years now - whats your success story?




yeah pretty much.

he advises to use 2 or 3 "tricks" to test the waters ::)

fuck, one i remember is asking her to feel the NONEXISTENT sixpack(no joke), only to "dupe" her into first bodily contact.

as if women cant tell when someone is trying.

and they know from first sight if theyre interested or not anyway.

i prefer straight up rude method, on the beach walk up to one and ask her if she wants to put suncream on my back.or even better yell the question over half the beach ;D

the claim to have a general method figured out which works on many/most is plain crazy.

and whatfor exactly?

everybody with a brain can go with friend and claim one of them just inherited or won millions or something like that.

there are many people with better ideas than mr strauss, but aparently hes got the right pr people and publishers.

I never read any of these books but I am pretty sure saying that they make money by over complicating an otherwise completely natural aspect of life (being and receiving attraction) and sucking the fun out of it completely is not an understatement.

I was of course trolling a little with my first post, but seriously how can it be so hard? the only thing I believe in is that IF you go out with the sole purpouse of getting laid you will not "score" - probably because you radiate awkwardness and pretty much look like half a serial killer with your "game face" on.

As far as I know and I happened to have a few girlfrieds ;) its a combination of luck and being at the right place at the right time + not making a complete dork out of yourself.

And even than (and I am speaking out of experience) I was able to get together with my wife and I said some horrific stupid things in our first few dates - one were I made inquiries of her breast size which seriously sounded like a legit question to me but which she did not find funny in the slightest.


Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: mogulgangi on July 02, 2012, 10:03:14 AM
I can admit to gaining a lot from the book..its not a secret recepie to success, but what it does do to your game is that it develops a game plan..its like reading a sales book with sales pitches; your never going to say what the book tells you word by word, but you'll follow the outline and the script..I've never truly had problems with women, but what got me to it and believe it was the success other people had..I saw a couple of my friends who already got a lot of women to begin with, use the basics of this book, and lead to taking their game to a diff level..the basics taught in the book of approach, touching, value adding, and closing all can be manipulated to each own and be as effective as anything..saying that I'm just "going to be myself" is a ignorant comment..you can still be yourself with more weapons..
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: Stark on July 02, 2012, 10:04:49 AM
I can admit to gaining a lot from the book..its not a secret recepie to success, but what it does do to your game is that it develops a game plan..its like reading a sales book with sales pitches; your never going to say what the book tells you word by word, but you'll follow the outline and the script..I've never truly had problems with women, but what got me to it and believe it was the success other people had..I saw a couple of my friends who already got a lot of women to begin with, use the basics of this book, and lead to taking their game to a diff level..the basics taught in the book of approach, touching, value adding, and closing all can be manipulated to each own and be as effective as anything..saying that I'm just "going to be myself" is a ignorant comment..you can still be yourself with more weapons..

jesus fucking christ  ::) ::) ::) dumber than a bag of hammers
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: Otis B Driftwood on July 02, 2012, 10:35:06 AM
I think its hogshit.

Just imagine if the bar door swung open and this group walked in. A few magic tricks, palm reading, and exchanging of feather boa's and they would have every 10 hanging off of them  ::)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KRxVQzNXexE/TjeGMTXc0jI/AAAAAAAADmk/ySgtTHZAX-8/s1600/Pickup-Artist-Mystery.jpg)
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: Otis B Driftwood on July 02, 2012, 10:40:19 AM
fuck, so this is that homo "mystery"

i always wondered how he looks, this is more ridiculous than i could imagine

Yes, and Strauss is on the right in a faux snakeskin suit, another staple of any pussy slayers wardrobe.
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 02, 2012, 10:43:25 AM
yes these guys can talk what they want to girls but i doubt girls would find them attractive.
and pickup lines are for nerds. whats wrong with telling your name to a girl, all of them decided if they want to sleep with you within seconds anyway.
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: Papper on July 02, 2012, 10:47:39 AM
it works! haha it fucking works if you apply it and practice.

by work i mean, it helps many people who are shit with women

then of course they lie some, spice ut up and sell a product like everyone else

of course money/looks/fame > pua. that isn't what they say
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 02, 2012, 10:52:54 AM
but what does the book teach? i once listened the audiobook but it was more a bunch of stories to me
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: Papper on July 02, 2012, 10:56:00 AM
but what does the book teach? i once listened the audiobook but it was more a bunch of stories to me

yes the book is like semi fictional stories with the theme of pua. a couple of basic tricks is convyed but it's made to entertain and explore that world, it's not a manual.
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: Nomad on July 02, 2012, 11:15:29 AM
I am happily married for six years now - whats your success story?

dude are you seriously throwin down your story of being married as a success?  Might as well turn in your man card now.  
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: RadOncDoc on July 02, 2012, 11:21:14 AM
due to lack of other possibilities, ive read his the game book while i was in prison.

what an absolute load of diarrhea, most likely also pure fictional novel.

same goes for all the other dating gurus.

oh brother, they think those pick up lines are any good. ::)

other then that, they basicaly point out the obvious for how an average guy should behave/prepare for a date.

even if some of the stories are true, they arent impressive to begin with.

yeah no shit, when you have money to travel around, you get around ::)

i couldnt find anything useful within all the hundreds of pages.

what do you people think of him and other socalled gurus?


Id agree its a scam to some extent. I was living in la around the time the game (and then later the reality show) came out and I used to see these guys at hollywood clubs. Other than mystery who is a decent looking guy, strauss and company are dorks and girls would really just laugh at the things they'd say. The key to their gimmick at clubs was that they would bring along guys who would pay for bottle service, so naturally girls would hang around them to get free drinks. Girls would also assume they had money so that was another thing working in their favor. I suppose the benefit is that it did at least get some of the guys out there and forced them to talk to girls, but by no means were strauss and the other gurus lady killers.
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: mogulgangi on July 02, 2012, 11:43:36 AM

jesus fucking christ  ::) ::) ::) dumber than a bag of hammers

Stark, you have over 20000 posts in a "bodybuildingl" forum..your gay
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: The Onion on July 02, 2012, 12:15:44 PM
I think its hogshit.

Just imagine if the bar door swung open and this group walked in. A few magic tricks, palm reading, and exchanging of feather boa's and they would have every 10 hanging off of them  ::)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KRxVQzNXexE/TjeGMTXc0jI/AAAAAAAADmk/ySgtTHZAX-8/s1600/Pickup-Artist-Mystery.jpg)
I can't imagine why some guys put so much effort into "seducing" women (no homo) that they end up like this bunch.

In every relationship I've ever been in, even the good ones, I've been miserable as f*ck at least 25 percent of the time... and still I can't seem to keep away. >:(
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: _bruce_ on July 02, 2012, 12:17:34 PM
As far as I remember the first half of the book is great and the second is like a romance novel.
Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
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Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
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Title: Re: neil strauss and company, all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 03, 2012, 02:43:53 AM
All gigolo!
Brodsky is so hilarious that he's able to bed every woman on earth.


yes its amusing to listen to it as well
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on July 03, 2012, 02:54:49 AM
I was a fan of the book.

Some good advices, some bad advices.

Peacocking is good. Approach within 3 seconds good. And pull the trigger!
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 03, 2012, 03:09:24 AM
and all these nerds that go to the workshop of these guys and puting it into practice on the street and in the clubs. omg so painful
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Griffith on July 03, 2012, 03:19:04 AM
A guy I know is a 'pick up artist'.
He's at Uni and goes out with nerds to get free drinks as he teaches them his methods and helps them get girls  ;D
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 03, 2012, 03:31:37 AM
lol yes easy money for constantly telling these nerds women dont care about looks :D

and then they get compliments when they collected a few phone numbers, "see its not that difficult bro?"

 ;D
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Parker on July 03, 2012, 05:18:45 AM
Modern day Pick Up Artists are artists at picking money up out of the pockets (people willing paying money)
of naive, insecure men...Selling the idea of having beautiful women who Want to be with them...
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: JasonH on July 03, 2012, 06:11:22 AM
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If a group of Getbiggers met up in real life and went out on the town together they'd look like this.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 03, 2012, 06:16:29 AM
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If a group of Getbiggers met up in real life and went out on the town together they'd look like this.

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(http://www.shutterpoint.com/photos/K/818350-Tall-Man-Circus_view.jpg)

"1"
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Papper on July 03, 2012, 07:42:22 AM
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If a group of Getbiggers met up in real life and went out on the town together they'd look like this.

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Except they all would be sporting invisible lat syndrom as well
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: hrspwr on July 03, 2012, 07:53:24 AM
 Quietly take your hand and shove it down your pants and get your hand all muskified, now take that hand and get it close to the ladies so they can pickup on your man scent. Then just let 1000`s of years of evolution go to work, it will activate the womans lizard brain and she is pre-programmed to breed.

 Pay me later.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: flipper5470 on July 03, 2012, 08:06:49 AM
Women were so much more receptive to me "being myself" when I was a 6-5, 225 lb blonde 25 year old than they are now that I'm bald, 50 and clocking in around three bills...
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Anabol on July 03, 2012, 10:40:46 AM
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Just look vids. He is pretty attractive. Yes he looks like shit, but he CAN attract ppl.
This works even for him, why it shouldn't work for you ?
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: 240 is Back on July 03, 2012, 10:43:02 AM
Stark, you have over 20000 posts in a "bodybuildingl" forum..your gay

gulp.   i must be so gay i'm straight again.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 03, 2012, 10:47:59 AM
gulp.   i must be so gay i'm straight again.

 ;D
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: DKlent on July 03, 2012, 12:42:25 PM
Listen to this Guy's voice. I can detect when guys are gay with high accuracy. I've always been good at this, and when I see this guy move, notice his mannerisms and his high pitched feminine gay accent...My Gaydar is just ringing like crazy.

My guess is that this is all a hoax. It is a money making scheme. I read Neil Strauss' book front to back and in the book, it sounds like it was written by a virgin. Supposed to have been written by a guy who has had sex with tons of women, none of the details that he gives about sex even make any sense. It is easy to tell that most of it was fabricated.

Picking up women isn't hard. You just have to have some personality, look decent and go after skanky women. The guys who look like warthogs who claim to be able to pick up women left and right are certainly lying. They can pick up women but they just know who the easiest women are by looking at them.




These "Pickup Artists" play upon a basic human weakness, I'm not talking about the weakness of women to be susceptible to their come ons, I'm talking about the weakness of the gullible Sons of Bitches who buy their books and think that it is all true.

Humans have an innate interest in "secret methods" be it in fighting, stock market, economics, education, fitness or picking up women. The truth? There are no "secret methods". Picking up women is something that takes practice, like anything else in the world. The idea that there are some secret psychological things that guys can do to make women, without fail, sleep with them is just Bullshit...Not only is it B.S. but it is also incredibly insulting to female intelligence and common sense.

Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 03, 2012, 01:33:42 PM
LOLOOLOLOL...at the desperate fucks in this thread, they have to "learn' how to talk to women . just start talking...hello. either she likes you or she don't....you sure as fuck aren't going to trick a girl into being attracted to you  8)


NZMM....dude, i thought you were better than that

but i should really leave you mere mortals be..... :D
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on July 03, 2012, 01:36:38 PM
I'm with Groink on this one. Imagine the "girls" who fall for this fake behaviour.  :-X
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: cephissus on July 03, 2012, 01:58:50 PM
haha epic groink not reading the thread
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 03, 2012, 02:14:29 PM
There is one thing that ALL WOMEN fall for and that's a man with money.

Most women could care less if their partner is physically attractive or if they have "game", what they care about is the guy's bank account.

The more money he has, the more money he can give her, which translates into her buying and doing all the things she always dreamt of doing.

She wants new shoes.... check.

She wants new clothes.... check.

She wants to go away on lavish vacations.... check.

She wants to eat out at places that only the elite go to..... check.

She wants plastic surgery..... check.

She wants a huge wedding with all the fairy tale details.... check.

She wants to a mansion to live in.... check.

She wants a live-in nanny to take care of the kids.... check.

She wants to hire a "trainer" that visits her at the house to work in the private exercise studio (which eventually turns into her fucking the trainer).... check.

She wants to later divorce the husband and walk away with half (if she was smart enough to hustle him out of a pre-nump)... check.

All of this is can be hers so as long as she finds a man that has placed money and ambition ahead of love.  

How do I know these things?  As a gay man that has many AMAZING looking female friends, who are as plastic as the water bottle you drink out of, I've managed to gather over the years that women of today are far beyond the stupid notion of falling in love with a man (regardless of where he comes from) and making it against all the odds.  That nonsense only works in the movies, whereby all happy endings are followed by an awesome soundtrack to bring those emotions home.

Forget working out to attract females.

Forget learning to have "game".

Forget trying to dress nice.

If you want to truly have women wrapped around your cock, get a great career in finance, make well over a million each year and you will have countless amounts of women flocking over to you, because you are just so damn special.

"1"
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Danny-Boy on July 03, 2012, 02:25:43 PM
There is an actual psychological method to initiate and engage positive communication w/ women that many men lack. In order to break the generalized "fear of rejection", these PUAs attempt to sell their mathematical tactics on how to transfer a women's rational thought of thinking the man approaching her is a "typical dirtbag" into-->> "There might be more to this conversation and "let me see what this guy is all about?"  Many of the so-called alpha males can call this horse shit and believe that they naturally display all the goods to land the chick.  There is no denying that there exists naturally skilled talkers.... But like trained methods utilized by a detective, psychologist, CIA etc. --There are certain cues of spoken language(specific word choices spoken at the correct moment) and physical expression that statistically places a man at better odds of not being discriminated and screened off by these women at a bar,gym, park, etc. We cannot control attraction, but a true pick-up artist who has mastered "the game" is capable of allowing most women to see his best qualities and have them decide for themselves "whether or not they are attracted".  The biggest problem is that most men fail to break the ice and do not know how to engage.    I believe several of their "trial and error" methods have a lot of scientific backing.  Learn to think on a women's wavelength and then you shall realize that you "are the catch" at all times.  If they don't want what u have to offer, then the fuck w them and move on ....  I recognize that this board will troll my response but knowledge is power and I refuse to deny it.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on July 03, 2012, 02:29:16 PM
Does the lack of paragraphs turn on women as well?  ::)
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Danny-Boy on July 03, 2012, 02:30:09 PM
Their methods will enhance an already good-looking dood's chance of landing even a more diverse selection of women.  Further, a wealthy man can learn way's of finding a woman who is not trying to dig into his pockets. The "game" is not about trickery but rather about a man's understanding of a woman's perspective.  Allow her to trust your intentions and you may find a more genuine individual
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Danny-Boy on July 03, 2012, 02:30:51 PM
I did not realize I was submitting an essay in APA format buddy  ;D
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: DKlent on July 03, 2012, 02:32:57 PM
Not all women care about wealth. Anyone who says this must hang out only with shallow trashy women.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Danny-Boy on July 03, 2012, 02:39:24 PM
I agree Dklent...  Unfortunately, too many men have been burned..but they too have failed to recognize that their marginalized assumption of their own capabilities is what's hindering them.... rich men usually try to bait women w/ their money.. they will receive the same outcome....   establish your other valuable assets and have them attracted to this... this is where acknowledging and exploiting your traits comes in.. then allowing whom you're interested see it for themselves..if they become attracted to this asset-- then they will acknowledge its worth.. that does not bare a price tag
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 03, 2012, 02:39:36 PM
Not all women care about wealth. Anyone who says this must hang out only with shallow trashy women.

All women care about wealth, if you know women that have told you otherwise, you have just spent time with a great liar.

"1"
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: _bruce_ on July 03, 2012, 02:40:13 PM
This hunk is laying down the law!  :o

Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Danny-Boy on July 03, 2012, 02:41:16 PM
Money.. unfortunately--gets linked in with security & stability, ...   Give them another sense of empowerment that u possess
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 03, 2012, 02:42:44 PM
I agree Dklent...  Unfortunately, too many men have been burned..but they too have failed to recognize that their marginalized assumption of their own capabilities is what's hindering them.... rich men usually try to bait women w/ their money.. they will receive the same outcome....   establish your other valuable assets and have them attracted to this... this is where acknowledging and exploiting your traits comes in.. then allowing whom you're interested see it for themselves..if they become attracted to this asset-- then they will acknowledge its worth.. that does not bare a price tag

Sure you do cowboy, that's why you're presently in med school and whomever you are dating is very clear about that fact and can at the very least feel certain that you will make 150K at the minimum assuming you go into primary care medicine, but also have potential to make close to and upwards of 500K if you do something more lucrative like say Anesthesia, Dermatology or any surgical specialty.

If you looked like any random fat fuck and didn't have effeminate filipino features and a great career ahead of you, you better be certain that no woman would give two shits about your PUA tricks.

"1"
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Danny-Boy on July 03, 2012, 02:43:40 PM
There are women who do find wealth in other places.. if u make them a believer... How many men are actually willing take this challenge?  This is where the majority of us fail and decide to believe that humans in general are that simple-minded
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Danny-Boy on July 03, 2012, 02:47:01 PM
I do not use tricks my friend..as my fiance has been w/ me when I was broke and did not know what to do w/ my life... it was my delusional ambition of being a fitness trainer that attracted her....  I have always been a motivated individual and never saw a woman whom I could initiate positive conversation w/.   I am grateful to have found someone appreciative of my offerings...   We just have different perspectives on life's positive/negative balances.. And I cannot further argue w/ u
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 03, 2012, 02:50:25 PM
I do not use tricks my friend..as my fiance has been w/ me when I was broke and did not know what to do w/ my life... it was my delusional ambition of being a fitness trainer that attracted her....  I have always been a motivated individual and never saw a woman whom I could initiate positive conversation w/.   I am grateful to have found someone appreciative of my offerings...   We just have different perspectives on life's positive/negative balances.. And I cannot further argue w/ u

Post up a picture of yourself and lets gauge how much of your offerings made her fall for you.

"1"
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 03, 2012, 02:57:24 PM
Actually, scratch that Danny-boy, I'll post them for you...

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Man, you're one notch away from being Piolo Pascual.

Listen, like I tell all of my filipino boys, I offer high rates, don't demand happy endings, but expect a full service treatment. 

PM me for more details and we can do business, also, make sure to wear that sexy wig if you decide to come over.

"1"
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Danny-Boy on July 03, 2012, 03:32:28 PM
Sorry Brother.. I play on the other team..LOL    I never meant to offend.. but cannot discredit the endless positive possibilities when one improves his self.. both mentally and physically... and believes he is not capable of improving his chance.. We are all a product of our own self-confidence and that naturally permeates our means of communication... BTW I have no idea of the individual that u speak of but am not surprised of how u unearthed my pics w/ such speed hehe
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 03, 2012, 04:01:16 PM
but am not surprised of how u unearthed my pics w/ such speed hehe

I am a homosexual.  It is my duty to keep an eye out for the various talent found on this site.

Just because you play for the other team doesn't mean that you can't be traded or that you aren't capable of making money on the side OR WHILE ON YOUR SIDE.

"1"
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on July 04, 2012, 01:40:55 AM
LOLOOLOLOL...at the desperate fucks in this thread, they have to "learn' how to talk to women . just start talking...hello. either she likes you or she don't....you sure as fuck aren't going to trick a girl into being attracted to you  8)


NZMM....dude, i thought you were better than that

but i should really leave you mere mortals be..... :D

A professor will still read articles on their specialist subject.... doesn't mean they need to learn more, they are just seeing what theories and research are out there.

The book actually has a term for people like me...... Naturals  8) I have natural game..... I do things that girls love without having to think about what they want from a guy.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 04, 2012, 01:59:42 AM
wealth i dont know, a lot of good looking girls with loser boyfriends, i think personality is very important.
and yes, all women give numbers, even though its a wrong one or they will never pick you up ;D
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Jovo on July 04, 2012, 04:13:15 AM
I agree OP, if your 16/17 or older and need to read a book to know how to treat and act around women, then you're hopeless and no book gonna help you. It's fucking instinct, you either have it or you don't. U just need to be a man and work on your self,,,  get a degree, get a job, work on your body, keep your self well groomed read alot about alot of diff subjects and the pussy will come to you
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: arce1988 on July 04, 2012, 02:37:50 PM
   snake oil
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 05, 2012, 03:43:44 AM
cum boiler
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Parker on July 05, 2012, 03:54:43 AM
   snake oil
Humans who buy books that tell them how to talk to other humans are....
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: PJim on July 05, 2012, 04:01:21 AM
Groink hit the nail on the head tbh. If you have to radically change the way you are and the way you act to pick up a woman, then you are either unsuitable for that woman or that woman is unsuitable for you.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Tapeworm on July 05, 2012, 05:00:35 AM
4 Mars

Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: CalvinH on July 05, 2012, 05:08:35 AM
I have a trick that has worked very well for me over the years.


...I just act like myself ;)
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: JasonH on July 05, 2012, 05:32:36 AM
I have a trick that has worked very well for me over the years.


...I just act like myself ;)

Yes, quite true Clavin  8)
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on July 05, 2012, 05:46:12 AM
I have a trick that has worked very well for me over the years.


...I just act like myself tell them I'm a Y board mod ;)

Fixed
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: CalvinH on July 05, 2012, 05:57:57 AM
Fixed

 ;D...do you lie and tell them the same ???
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on July 05, 2012, 06:00:21 AM
;D...do you lie and tell them the same ???

Sort of....

"Hi, my names Clavin."

"The y board mod?"

"Yes"

"gob gob gob gob gob gob....."
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: CalvinH on July 05, 2012, 06:03:08 AM
Sort of....

"Hi, my names Clavin."

"The y board mod?"

"Yes"

"gob gob gob gob gob gob....."


You really want to co-mod!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on July 05, 2012, 06:06:55 AM

You really want to co-mod!! ;D ;D

  ;)
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: _bruce_ on July 05, 2012, 08:50:10 AM
4 Mars



Great to see him keeping his cool.
Neil Strauss eat your heart out.  :D
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Krankenstein on July 05, 2012, 11:39:26 AM
heres what hapens when people buy this bs

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"Hey guys, I saw you standing over here and I wanted to come over and say hi"   ::)

Here's the thing...

Guy #1:

Has the 'I dont give a shit' type of attitude.  Talks to any girl....does not come across as wanting to get in their pants....dresses nice, is bald, DOES have money but doesn't flaunt it (but you get the sense he does).  He is bald, very average build, 99% of the time jokes and laughs

Guy #2:

Is a little shy.  Kind of introverted.  Dresses good...but not like guy #2.  Is built, been told he has a great smile, is a nice guy, doesn't a shit load of money (is comfortable), has hair (short), likes to joke but is a little more reserved.

Which guy gets more women approaching him?  Which one fucks a ton of women?

Guy #1....my buddy.  I am, unfortunately, guy #2.  I have seen him pull women that I never thought possible.  The guy just has "IT".  He does not want to be married.  He tells them straight out that he isn't looking for anything all that serious.  He wont be with a woman older than 28 it seems (this guy is 47 and fucks 25yo's....consistently!!!)
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 05, 2012, 11:53:25 AM
"Hey guys, I saw you standing over here and I wanted to come over and say hi"   ::)

Here's the thing...

Guy #1:

Has the 'I dont give a shit' type of attitude.  Talks to any girl....does not come across as wanting to get in their pants....dresses nice, is bald, DOES have money but doesn't flaunt it (but you get the sense he does).  He is bald, very average build, 99% of the time jokes and laughs

Guy #2:

Is a little shy.  Kind of introverted.  Dresses good...but not like guy #2.  Is built, been told he has a great smile, is a nice guy, doesn't a shit load of money (is comfortable), has hair (short), likes to joke but is a little more reserved.

Which guy gets more women approaching him?  Which one fucks a ton of women?

Guy #1....my buddy.  I am, unfortunately, guy #2.  I have seen him pull women that I never thought possible.  The guy just has "IT".  He does not want to be married.  He tells them straight out that he isn't looking for anything all that serious.  He wont be with a woman older than 28 it seems (this guy is 47 and fucks 25yo's....consistently!!!)

take that away and he couldn't fuck the girl that works the register at Wal-Mart
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: kh300 on July 05, 2012, 12:16:53 PM
take that away and he couldn't fuck the girl that works the register at Wal-Mart

Such a pussy excuse. that's all that is and you know it. so many of you guys sitting around crying about why you cant get laid. Meanwhile some drug addict who hasn't had a paycheck in 2 years is fucking the girl you drool over.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Krankenstein on July 05, 2012, 12:29:01 PM
take that away and he couldn't fuck the girl that works the register at Wal-Mart

I don't think I can convey it right.  He NEVER mentions money....what he has...nothing.  He will continue to buy drinks...all that.  He never mentions the two houses, the nice car, the vacations, etc.

I have had girlfriends say "He isnt attractive but that charisma he has..makes him so approachable and easy to talk to"
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: bigkid on July 05, 2012, 12:48:09 PM
I don't think I can convey it right.  He NEVER mentions money....what he has...nothing.  He will continue to buy drinks...all that.  He never mentions the two houses, the nice car, the vacations, etc.

I have had girlfriends say "He isnt attractive but that charisma he has..makes him so approachable and easy to talk to"
Does he fuck the girls without them ever seeing his house and car?  
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: kh300 on July 05, 2012, 12:51:55 PM
I don't think I can convey it right.  He NEVER mentions money....what he has...nothing.  He will continue to buy drinks...all that.  He never mentions the two houses, the nice car, the vacations, etc.

I have had girlfriends say "He isnt attractive but that charisma he has..makes him so approachable and easy to talk to"

I would bet my life on my friend rob who lives with his parents and hasn't had a job since I don't remember getting 9 out of 10 girls from my friend Chris who is loaded and way better looking.  Money may give your friend confidence but it isn't the money itself. Most girls make plenty of money nowadays, they don't need a man to make it for them.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: bigkid on July 05, 2012, 12:56:00 PM
I would bet my life on my friend rob who lives with his parents and hasn't had a job since I don't remember getting 9 out of 10 girls from my friend Chris who is loaded and way better looking.  Money may give your friend confidence but it isn't the money itself. Most girls make plenty of money nowadays, they don't need a man to make it for them.
What city do you live in?
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 05, 2012, 01:04:23 PM
These pick up artists talk too fukcing much. The less a guy talks the better.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Krankenstein on July 05, 2012, 01:57:06 PM
Does he fuck the girls without them ever seeing his house and car?  

Actually...yes...he gets TANKED a lot...he takes cabs, he and his friends will do limo services, etc.  The girls are ready to fuck BEFORE that.  He was fucking one of the AZ Cardinals players wives...23yo. 

Oh, and KH...money didnt make him confidant.  He was always like this from what I have been told.  One time I was out with him and another friend (who does flaunt the shit he has)...at Kona Grill in Chandler (groink would know this place).  So, we are sitting on one side of the bar, and there were these girls on the other side.  The other friend tells this girl to come over and she does (note: tells, not asks) as soon as she comes over..he says..."ok, you can go now".  She gets to the other side of the bar...and she says...why did you even have me come over there.  He said, I wanted to see if your ass was as good looking as your face.

I laughed thinking that he is not going to get this chick with that cheesy fuck line....well, sure enough...am hour later he is gone, so is she....me and my buddy go out to where he is parked and she is blowing him in his car...LOL  I could not stop laughing.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Parker on July 05, 2012, 02:13:25 PM
Krank, the key I believe is the age range...under 28 and mostly 25 yr olds...more interested in having fun...above 28, to in their 30s, there is a diff mentality (not saying that 30 yr olds don't go the "have run route)---
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Krankenstein on July 05, 2012, 03:24:35 PM
Krank, the key I believe is the age range...under 28 and mostly 25 yr olds...more interested in having fun...above 28, to in their 30s, there is a diff mentality (not saying that 30 yr olds don't go the "have run route)---

Thats why I stick to the 40+ range....they want sex...they take much to please...  easy pickings!!  Just did two in the same day on Tuesday.  Are they 9 or 10's?  Nope.  Were they lower than 6....nope.  I will take that.  HA HA
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 05, 2012, 04:03:54 PM
Thats why I stick to the 40+ range....they want sex...they take much to please...  easy pickings!!  Just did two in the same day on Tuesday.  Are they 9 or 10's?  Nope.  Were they lower than 6....nope.  I will take that.  HA HA

Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on July 05, 2012, 04:54:43 PM
HAHHAHA,,,FELLA YOUR LYING,,,,,,SO BAD,,,,,

WHERE IS THIS KONA GRILL,,,,ACROSS FROM CHANDLER MALL????? CHANDLER,,,AND DOBSON? YES,,,I KNOW CHANDLER VERY WELL DENNIS JAMES AND I FREUENT IT ALOT EVEN THOUGH WE LIVE IN SCOTTSDALE,,,YES IKNOW INTEL IS IN OCTILLO,,,,I HAVE MANY FRIENDS THERE ALSO,,,,,

gh15 approved

Actually...yes...he gets TANKED a lot...he takes cabs, he and his friends will do limo services, etc.  The girls are ready to fuck BEFORE that.  He was fucking one of the AZ Cardinals players wives...23yo. 

Oh, and KH...money didnt make him confidant.  He was always like this from what I have been told.  One time I was out with him and another friend (who does flaunt the shit he has)...at Kona Grill in Chandler (groink would know this place).  So, we are sitting on one side of the bar, and there were these girls on the other side.  The other friend tells this girl to come over and she does (note: tells, not asks) as soon as she comes over..he says..."ok, you can go now".  She gets to the other side of the bar...and she says...why did you even have me come over there.  He said, I wanted to see if your ass was as good looking as your face.

I laughed thinking that he is not going to get this chick with that cheesy fuck line....well, sure enough...am hour later he is gone, so is she....me and my buddy go out to where he is parked and she is blowing him in his car...LOL  I could not stop laughing.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Krankenstein on July 05, 2012, 07:15:39 PM
HAHHAHA,,,FELLA YOUR LYING,,,,,,SO BAD,,,,,

WHERE IS THIS KONA GRILL,,,,ACROSS FROM CHANDLER MALL????? CHANDLER,,,AND DOBSON? YES,,,I KNOW CHANDLER VERY WELL DENNIS JAMES AND I FREUENT IT ALOT EVEN THOUGH WE LIVE IN SCOTTSDALE,,,YES IKNOW INTEL IS IN OCTILLO,,,,I HAVE MANY FRIENDS THERE ALSO,,,,,

gh15 approved

If i was lying, I would have made me the guy..annnnnnnnyway

Always loved your impression of that twat.  Anyway...its not across from the mall...sorry if google maps fucked you up.  Its on the south end of the mall...ATTACHED to the mall....next to McDonalds.

If there is another Kona besides the one in the mall and the one in Scottsdale (with the Socttsdale Fashion center)....never really liked the scottsdale one.  Lots of FINE FINE hoes at Saporos in Scottsdale....but you best have $$$$$
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: kh300 on July 05, 2012, 09:26:43 PM
Actually...yes...he gets TANKED a lot...he takes cabs, he and his friends will do limo services, etc.  The girls are ready to fuck BEFORE that.  He was fucking one of the AZ Cardinals players wives...23yo. 

Oh, and KH...money didnt make him confidant.  He was always like this from what I have been told.  One time I was out with him and another friend (who does flaunt the shit he has)...at Kona Grill in Chandler (groink would know this place).  So, we are sitting on one side of the bar, and there were these girls on the other side.  The other friend tells this girl to come over and she does (note: tells, not asks) as soon as she comes over..he says..."ok, you can go now".  She gets to the other side of the bar...and she says...why did you even have me come over there.  He said, I wanted to see if your ass was as good looking as your face.
I laughed thinking that he is not going to get this chick with that cheesy fuck line....well, sure enough...am hour later he is gone, so is she....me and my buddy go out to where he is parked and she is blowing him in his car...LOL  I could not stop laughing.

Thats a good line. Must be a true player.
Your story is not made up. Its a player that knows what hes doing. What I said about the money is the guy has confidence from somewhere. Most people think a guy gets laid because of his money, no, he gets laid because of the confidence that his money gives him. Another guy may get girls because of his confidence in his looks while he's broke as hell. Another guy gets girls because of the confidence he has in his personality although hes ugly and broke.

I had a 45k Cadillac and an 1,800$ winter rat. The Cadillac started burning oil and giving me troubles so I sold it and just kept the piece of shit jeep winter rat. Has my game gone down? Nope. In fact I've been dating the hottest girl I ever have all the while driving her around in a jeep with 250,000 miles.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Parker on July 05, 2012, 09:29:38 PM
Thats a good line. Must be a true player.
Your story is not made up. Its a player that knows what hes doing. What I said about the money is the guy has confidence from somewhere. Most people think a guy gets laid because of his money, no, he gets laid because of the confidence that his money gives him. Another guy may get girls because of his confidence in his looks while he's broke as hell. Another guy gets girls because of the confidence he has in his personality although hes ugly and broke.

I had a 45k Cadillac and an 1,800$ winter rat. The Cadillac started burning oil and giving me troubles so I sold it and just kept the piece of shit jeep winter rat. Has my game gone down? Nope. In fact I've been dating the hottest girl I ever have all the while driving her around in a jeep with 250,000 miles.
that's that "Tony Montana, Tony Montana", sorry the song is in my head
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 05, 2012, 09:56:55 PM
Such a pussy excuse. that's all that is and you know it. so many of you guys sitting around crying about why you cant get laid. Meanwhile some drug addict who hasn't had a paycheck in 2 years is fucking the girl you drool over.

Do you know who you're talking to? my number is fucking retired in the pussy slaying hall of fame, i have my own wing. and my GF of 2 1/2 years is a fucking ten, as was the one before her, and the one before her, and so on.......and i posted pics of them all.

I'm saying his bald average friend would not be the stud he is without the cash, I guarantee he works it into the conversation, he'd be a fucking idiot not to. and PS women can smell money a mile away, whether he talks about it or not. check the shoes, check the watch, check the clothes..see if he pays with plastic or cash. You think these bitches are stupid? they are fucking vultures
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 05, 2012, 09:59:56 PM
Thats a good line. Must be a true player.
Your story is not made up. Its a player that knows what hes doing. What I said about the money is the guy has confidence from somewhere. Most people think a guy gets laid because of his money, no, he gets laid because of the confidence that his money gives him. Another guy may get girls because of his confidence in his looks while he's broke as hell. Another guy gets girls because of the confidence he has in his personality although hes ugly and broke.

I had a 45k Cadillac and an 1,800$ winter rat. The Cadillac started burning oil and giving me troubles so I sold it and just kept the piece of shit jeep winter rat. Has my game gone down? Nope. In fact I've been dating the hottest girl I ever have all the while driving her around in a jeep with 250,000 miles.

right..and without the cash, he doesn't have the confidence  ;)
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 05, 2012, 10:02:08 PM
HAHHAHA,,,FELLA YOUR LYING,,,,,,SO BAD,,,,,

WHERE IS THIS KONA GRILL,,,,ACROSS FROM CHANDLER MALL????? CHANDLER,,,AND DOBSON? YES,,,I KNOW CHANDLER VERY WELL DENNIS JAMES AND I FREUENT IT ALOT EVEN THOUGH WE LIVE IN SCOTTSDALE,,,YES IKNOW INTEL IS IN OCTILLO,,,,I HAVE MANY FRIENDS THERE ALSO,,,,,

gh15 approved


There is a Kona at the chandler mall, you gotta go all the way around back.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Master Blaster on July 05, 2012, 10:05:42 PM

How do I know these things?  As a gay man that has many AMAZING looking female friends, who are as plastic as the water bottle you drink out of, I've managed to gather over the years that women of today are far beyond the stupid notion of falling in love with a man (regardless of where he comes from) and making it against all the odds.  That nonsense only works in the movies, whereby all happy endings are followed by an awesome soundtrack to bring those emotions home.


"1"

This is cold, dude. Even for you. Me and the wife don't always get along, and I am sure she would love a large cocked rich dude, but we are a team that takes care of some precious and wonderful kids. There is romantic love, and there is familial love. Blood is thicker than water. Any. Fucking. Day.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: cephissus on July 06, 2012, 12:21:49 AM
right..and without the cash, he doesn't have the confidence  ;)

EXACTLY... how many times does it need to be said?

"Confidence confidence confidence confidence confidence"

UGH it makes me sick.  where does confidence come from?  maybe from not being a loser piece of shit?  i swear one has to be mentally retarded to not make this connection about about .5 seconds, and yet...
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Parker on July 06, 2012, 02:00:10 AM
There is one thing that ALL WOMEN fall for and that's a man with money.

Most women could care less if their partner is physically attractive or if they have "game", what they care about is the guy's bank account.

The more money he has, the more money he can give her, which translates into her buying and doing all the things she always dreamt of doing.

She wants new shoes.... check.

She wants new clothes.... check.

She wants to go away on lavish vacations.... check.

She wants to eat out at places that only the elite go to..... check.

She wants plastic surgery..... check.

She wants a huge wedding with all the fairy tale details.... check.

She wants to a mansion to live in.... check.

She wants a live-in nanny to take care of the kids.... check.

She wants to hire a "trainer" that visits her at the house to work in the private exercise studio (which eventually turns into her fucking the trainer).... check.

She wants to later divorce the husband and walk away with half (if she was smart enough to hustle him out of a pre-nump)... check.

All of this is can be hers so as long as she finds a man that has placed money and ambition ahead of love.  

How do I know these things?  As a gay man that has many AMAZING looking female friends, who are as plastic as the water bottle you drink out of, I've managed to gather over the years that women of today are far beyond the stupid notion of falling in love with a man (regardless of where he comes from) and making it against all the odds.  That nonsense only works in the movies, whereby all happy endings are followed by an awesome soundtrack to bring those emotions home.

Forget working out to attract females.

Forget learning to have "game".

Forget trying to dress nice.

If you want to truly have women wrapped around your cock, get a great career in finance, make well over a million each year and you will have countless amounts of women flocking over to you, because you are just so damn special.

"1"
ANd that's why those same women will have effed up marriages and even more effed up kids, who become effed up adults with the "mommy didn't love me" mentality.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 06, 2012, 04:04:40 AM
you only should question yourself wheter you would want to have a woman whos with you for the money, not exactly the best types around.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 06, 2012, 04:56:27 AM
you only should question yourself wheter you would want to have a woman whos with you for the money, not exactly the best types around.

OMR is a bit jaded with his comment.

I switched careers in the middle of my relationship, started up something new and left behind something I was doing for 20 years... it was tight for six months before things turned around, and my woman didn't even blink...and she's a "Scottsdale chick" who can have any man she wants. they all aren't like that
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Krankenstein on July 06, 2012, 05:24:11 AM
right..and without the cash, he doesn't have the confidence  ;)

Again big guy....he had this confidence when he was building his businesses and didn't have much.  The guy just doesn't have the 'rejection worries'.  He said "there are so many women out there...why get your nuts bound up by a two letter word"

You will know this location Groink....we went to the BOA over on baseline and Mcclintock (in the Frys) so I could make a deposit.  So, no money flashing there.  He was in a baseball hat, tshirt, and shorts.  no fancy shirt...plain grey.  under armour hat is about all that was a 'logo' type of thing.  He went to walk out side to make a call...ends up talking to some woman that just comes in the bank because she dropped a piece of paper.  She was a solid 8 (in my book).  I don't pay attention, so I don't see how long he was talking to her.  Afterwards we are at the el pollo loco and he shows me that she already had texted him telling him to meet her out that night.  Next day he comes by my house to swim with her in tow.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Krankenstein on July 06, 2012, 05:27:39 AM
There is a Kona at the chandler mall, you gotta go all the way around back.

Already said that....I believe you can verify that Saporo's in scottsdale is ridiculous with women....yes?
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 06, 2012, 12:27:56 PM
Already said that....I believe you can verify that Saporo's in scottsdale is ridiculous with women....yes?

Yes I can, LOL.

Old Town in and of itself, is just a ridiculous place to meet gorgeous women, they are everywhere.

 it's just a scene that has to be experienced for someone to get what we are saying. think of how many women  you would encounter if you parked your car at Firehouse, and walked down the strip past Martini Ranch, CREAM, Jackrabbit,  Shotgun betty's , revolver,Dirty/pretty,  Axis/Radius, Wild knight, El heffe, Marjerle's, doll house, PCL, American Junkie, Smashboxx and wound up at Mint...and that's what....three blocks of walking around by Drinkwater and fifth i just mentioned ?, and i only mentioned the big clubs, there are just as many little dive bars lining that strip as well...LOL

Old town Scottsdale is fucking NUTS, at 1 in the morning the streets are at a dead stop, taxis mixed with ferraris bumper to bumper. pedicabs are flying everywhere and it's just a sea of people pouring in and out of nightclubs, there are half  naked, gorgeous drunken sluts EVERYWHERE...and everyone is fucked out of their face on something.

If you have half of a decent game, your'e going home with an 8 at the least
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 06, 2012, 12:33:07 PM
EXACTLY... how many times does it need to be said?

"Confidence confidence confidence confidence confidence"

UGH it makes me sick.  where does confidence come from?  maybe from not being a loser piece of shit?  i swear one has to be mentally retarded to not make this connection about about .5 seconds, and yet...
Courage comes from a Novice Level Magical Illusion Spell and can be taught at Winterhold College.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: King Shizzo on July 06, 2012, 02:18:49 PM
This is cold, dude. Even for you. Me and the wife don't always get along, and I am sure she would love a large cocked rich dude, but we are a team that takes care of some precious and wonderful kids. There is romantic love, and there is familial love. Blood is thicker than water. Any. Fucking. Day.
Outed.  Except for the kids part.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Krankenstein on July 06, 2012, 02:44:24 PM
Yes I can, LOL.

Old Town in and of itself, is just a ridiculous place to meet gorgeous women, they are everywhere.

 it's just a scene that has to be experienced for someone to get what we are saying. think of how many women  you would encounter if you parked your car at Firehouse, and walked down the strip past Martini Ranch, CREAM, Jackrabbit,  Shotgun betty's , revolver,Dirty/pretty,  Axis/Radius, Wild knight, El heffe, Marjerle's, doll house, PCL, American Junkie, Smashboxx and wound up at Mint...and that's what....three blocks of walking around by Drinkwater and fifth i just mentioned ?, and i only mentioned the big clubs, there are just as many little dive bars lining that strip as well...LOL

Old town Scottsdale is fucking NUTS, at 1 in the morning the streets are at a dead stop, taxis mixed with ferraris bumper to bumper. pedicabs are flying everywhere and it's just a sea of people pouring in and out of nightclubs, there are half  naked, gorgeous drunken sluts EVERYWHERE...and everyone is fucked out of their face on something.

If you have half of a decent game, your'e going home with an 8 at the least

I dont even have that....lol

I never did Axis/Radius.  I did a lot of Devils North and Barcelona (not much).  I pulled a lot more out of Devils.  Devils Old Towne made me feel like the creepy old guy.  I was at Martini Ranch a couple of times but wasn't in the mood to put up with shit.  I am trying to remember the name of the club that was by Axis that had the 4-elements theme.  I know I could call my buddy who used to bounce there...but fuck it...too lazy.  I remember the pool at the Hotel James...fucking awesome.  The guy I was just talking about always  get a cabana....just insane.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: syntaxmachine on July 08, 2012, 08:12:34 PM
All women care about wealth, if you know women that have told you otherwise, you have just spent time with a great liar.

"1"

Yes, literally all the women in Nepal (per capita GDP $100) and other poor places are getting on boats/planes to find wealthier men elsewhere. These countries must have all-male populations by now.  ::)

In case it isn't obvious, your "plastic" (your description) friends are not a random sample of women. Thus, you cannot even come close to judging all (or even most) women upon this basis. You're judging from emotion. You're better than this.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: polychronopolous on July 08, 2012, 08:16:23 PM
Yes, literally all the women in Nepal (per capita GDP $100) and other poor places are getting on boats/planes to find wealthier men elsewhere. These countries must have all-male populations by now.  ::)

In case it isn't obvious, your "plastic" (your description) friends are not a random sample of women. Thus, you cannot even come close to judging all (or even most) women upon this basis. You're judging from emotion. You're better than this.

Damn... I actually have a friend who is from Nepal and he is always trying to get me to take a trip out there. Is it really that bad? If there ain't any Nepal women to chase then fuck a 2 day trip.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: DKlent on July 08, 2012, 09:07:55 PM
Ironic post reported.

P.S. How does devising strategies to get into women's pants and then quickly leave before you can see their feelings afterward (the general topic of this thread) fit into your Buddhist scheme of pursuing Enlightenment?

It doesn't. I don't do any of that stuff anymore.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: syntaxmachine on July 08, 2012, 11:04:49 PM
Damn... I actually have a friend who is from Nepal and he is always trying to get me to take a trip out there. Is it really that bad? If there ain't any Nepal women to chase then fuck a 2 day trip.

To clarify, I was being sarcastic. OMR is taking the stance that all women just care about wealth; I am describing a counterexample (the fact that the overwhelming majority of women around the world outside of first-world societies -- such as those in Nepal) do not do much of anything to pursue wealthy men, hence negating his claim.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 18, 2012, 02:15:19 AM
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: _bruce_ on July 18, 2012, 06:04:45 AM


Gary's lips are brodskylicious!
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 18, 2012, 06:07:24 AM
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 18, 2012, 06:13:15 AM
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 19, 2012, 04:55:40 AM
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Mawse on July 19, 2012, 09:42:27 PM
this is how it works out in real life

Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 20, 2012, 12:54:21 AM
neil strauss would argue he didnt dress properly or something :D

haha so true, "women dont care about looks"
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Krankenstein on July 20, 2012, 05:14:25 AM


What the fuck porn would that pig on the right be in?  I got a reverse boner just looking at the screen cap.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 20, 2012, 05:16:07 AM
haha yes she should be more than happy she was asked for a scene
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on July 20, 2012, 05:57:55 AM
If i was lying, I would have made me the guy..annnnnnnnyway

Always loved your impression of that twat.  Anyway...its not across from the mall...sorry if google maps fucked you up.  Its on the south end of the mall...ATTACHED to the mall....next to McDonalds.

If there is another Kona besides the one in the mall and the one in Scottsdale (with the Socttsdale Fashion center)....never really liked the scottsdale one.  Lots of FINE FINE hoes at Saporos in Scottsdale....but you best have $$$$$


MONEY IS NEVER A ISSUE,,,,i have plenty of it,,,,I drove up last night watching batman at the theatre I saw the Grill,,,you talk about it,,,alot of fellas look at me and women in my 68 charger I drove up in,,,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Parker on July 20, 2012, 06:11:23 AM
neil strauss would argue he didnt dress properly or something :D
He looks like a butcher, a baker, or a candlestick maker.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Krankenstein on July 20, 2012, 06:16:12 AM

MONEY IS NEVER A ISSUE,,,,i have plenty of it,,,,I drove up last night watching batman at the theatre I saw the Grill,,,you talk about it,,,alot of fellas look at me and women in my 68 charger I drove up in,,,,

gh15 approved

Next time take a pic of the place rather than google mapping it and saying you were there.   ::)
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: lovemonkey on July 20, 2012, 06:48:13 AM


Watched the entire thing.. was almost worth the watch. Fairly informative although nothing groundbreaking. The jesus/god stuff at the end was a major turnoff.

But I definitely think they've got a point thought.. even if you don't give a shit about the actual women in the business it's getting pretty obvious by now that internet porn has seriously affected a lot of young men.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: manuelsonn on July 20, 2012, 06:57:12 AM
Watched the entire thing.. was almost worth the watch. Fairly informative although nothing groundbreaking. The jesus/god stuff at the end was a major turnoff.

But I definitely think they've got a point thought.. even if you don't give a shit about the actual women in the business it's getting pretty obvious by now that internet porn has seriously affected a lot of young men.
yes, it s true, i thank god for internet porn everyday
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Psychopath on July 20, 2012, 07:33:10 AM
this is how it works out in real life




This is fucking wrong. The guy is a fat loser dressed like a camel herding genie, approaching women that can be mistaken for his teenage daughter.

...Also, the shit he says is very inappropriate.
Title: Re: Neil Strauss (The Pick Up Artist) and other dating gurus - all liars?
Post by: Tito24 on July 20, 2012, 08:14:50 AM
yes had he said the charming stuff he would have gotten laid with these ladies