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Title: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: the trainer on July 17, 2012, 09:27:50 AM
I remember when Richard Jones was the next big thing he was all over the magazines and people where saying he was the next mr o then he disappeared and nobody heard from him again.

Victor Martinez was the next big thing even ronnie coleman said this guy is going to be the next mr o after me, but with all the controversy in his personal life he could not get it together and there are many more like them its really sad when somebody fails to meet exceptions and never really push their talent to the limit.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: MORTALCOIL on July 17, 2012, 09:34:24 AM
Well, Martinez got beautifully screwed at the 07 'O (the fact he had a criminal record sure didn't help) and then got injured the next year and lost his momentum somehow. Dennis James
was heavily hyped after his 4th placing in 2003. But the worst case might have been Fedorov.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: MCWAY on July 17, 2012, 10:08:28 AM
That's easy: Victor Richards.

Hyped as the "uncrowned Mr. Olympia", which he called himself, before he even turned pro, he didn't even compete against the best of the NPC.

He used his dual citizenship to win the Nigeria national championship, which to my knowledge was never a pro qualifier prior to Richards entering it and hasn't been one since then.

Rich Gaspari beat him in a state-level show and he threw a fit. That lead many to believe that his not competing in the IFBB was due to his ego not being able to handle his losing to smaller but better-conditioned bodybuilders.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 17, 2012, 10:17:03 AM
That's easy: Victor Richards.

x2. He turned pro by winning the Mr Bungabunga, and proclaimed early nineties that he would be mr Olympia in the year 2000...... >:(
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: MORTALCOIL on July 17, 2012, 10:20:52 AM
Two words: Alexander Federov

Cue Mass1234567 posting Putin and Russian missiles in 3....2.....1....
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: MCWAY on July 17, 2012, 10:29:37 AM
Two words: Alexander Federov

Federov at least competed on stage, and when he was in shape, he looked terrific.

He simply bombed at the 2005 Olympia and wilted away after that. But, when he stood next to Coleman and Cutler at the 2003 Russian Grand Prix and next to Coleman in the 2004 Grand Prix, he was the real deal.

Why he couldn't replicate that at the Olympia I don't know.

Federov went toe-to-toe with the best in the world. Richards wouldn't even go against the best in the NPC; again, he lost to Gaspari at a local show and threw a fit.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Parker on July 17, 2012, 10:31:08 AM
Federov at least competed on stage, and when he was in shape, he looked terrific.

He simply bombed at the 2005 Olympia and wilted away after that. But, when he stood next to Coleman and Cutler at the 2003 Russian Grand Prix and next to Coleman in the 2004 Grand Prix, he was the real deal.

Why he couldn't replicate that at the Olympia I don't know.

Federov went toe-to-toe with the best in the world. Richards wouldn't even go against the best in the NPC; again, he lost to Gaspari at a local show and threw a fit.
Pec tear and back asymmetry did him in.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Game Time on July 17, 2012, 10:35:58 AM
Mr. Trey Brewer, the hype machine was in full effect with the guy. Career went down faster than the twin towers....out of line? :D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 17, 2012, 10:38:13 AM
That's easy: Victor Richards.

Hyped as the "uncrowned Mr. Olympia", which he called himself, before he even turned pro, he didn't even compete against the best of the NPC.

He used his dual citizenship to win the Nigeria national championship, which to my knowledge was never a pro qualifier prior to Richards entering it and hasn't been one since then.

Rich Gaspari beat him in a state-level show and he threw a fit. That lead many to believe that his not competing in the IFBB was due to his ego not being able to handle his losing to smaller but better-conditioned bodybuilders.


Victor Richards was never an IFBB pro......period.  But you are correct about the hype although he was obviously good at self promotion
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Tito24 on July 17, 2012, 10:38:31 AM
Cue Mass1234567 posting Putin and Russian missiles in 3....2.....1....

lol
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 17, 2012, 10:38:58 AM

Victor Richards was never an IFBB pro......period.  But you are correct about the hype although he was obviously good at self promotion
He was an IFBB pro indeed...
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: bigmc on July 17, 2012, 10:42:21 AM
derek anthony was huge on the gay scene but faded into obscurity when his kidneys said fuck this and left him
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Nails on July 17, 2012, 10:48:54 AM
All went down hill after he tore his tricep and the doctor butchered the surgery



(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iBQo77PwEww/THcfzb6X4SI/AAAAAAAAJCk/trkM_ohjFmE/s1600/frank_mcgrath_bodybuilder_1.jpg)


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__xoggXWTQr0/SQfRHhj4JrI/AAAAAAAADkY/vJDHzad6Br4/s400/Frank+McGrath29.jpg)


(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1545&stc=1)

(http://goalorientedtraining.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/frank-mcgrath.jpg?w=600)



at the 2011 olympia.. at least he made it on stage at the olympia once



(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB11096wtmk_OOKATMAEPY.JPG)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: dantelis on July 17, 2012, 11:02:06 AM
Richards definitely had good genetics.  Goes to show that genetics can only get you so far.  Takes hard work, dedication and perseverance too.

Federov was deinitely over-hyped.  Had some pretty good mass, but not much else.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=403308.0;attach=456517;image)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: MCWAY on July 17, 2012, 11:15:13 AM
Richards definitely had good genetics.  Goes to show that genetics can only get you so far.  Takes hard work, dedication and perseverance too.

Federov was deinitely over-hyped.  Had some pretty good mass, but not much else.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=403308.0;attach=456517;image)

I don't necessarily consider Federov overhyped. We didn't have to speculate how he'd do against the best of the IFBB. Federov competed head-to-head with them and he did well (at least in two shows, anyway).

Granted, you can argue that, at the Olympia, there would be more quality bodybuilders between him, Cutler and Coleman. But, he did well against those two and beat several top 10 Olympia placers who were in that 2003 Grand Prix show.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: kimo on July 17, 2012, 11:17:22 AM
how about greg kovacs
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: dantelis on July 17, 2012, 11:28:48 AM
I don't necessarily consider Federov overhyped. We didn't have to speculate how he'd do against the best of the IFBB. Federov competed head-to-head with them and he did well (at least in two shows, anyway).

Granted, you can argue that, at the Olympia, there would be more quality bodybuilders between him, Cutler and Coleman. But, he did well against those two and beat several top 10 Olympia placers who were in that 2003 Grand Prix show.

Guess I need to see the pictures.  I took a quick Google image search for Fedorov and the pics I saw didn't speak well for his physique.  His record as a pro isn't all that impressive.  He couldn't even win the Russian Grand Prix.  You'd think he'd be a hometown favorite and would easily take first, no matter the competition. 


2003

European Amateur Championships - IFBB, Super-HeavyWeight, 1st
Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 3rd


2004

Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 2nd


2005

Olympia - IFBB, Did not place


2006

Grand Prix Austria - IFBB, 10th
Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, 9th
New York Pro Championships - IFBB, Did not place

Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 17, 2012, 11:40:58 AM
1-Roland Kikinger (sp?)
2-Cook (the next Blonde Bomber ) (sp?)
3- Richard jones



WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 17, 2012, 11:44:48 AM
(http://i52.servimg.com/u/f52/12/62/87/72/ca3ybq10.jpg)


WOOOSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: _bruce_ on July 17, 2012, 11:45:13 AM
Richards definitely had good genetics.  Goes to show that genetics can only get you so far.  Takes hard work, dedication and perseverance too.

Federov was deinitely over-hyped.  Had some pretty good mass, but not much else.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=403308.0;attach=456517;image)

Richard's physique kinda reminds me of DeMayo's.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Fortress on July 17, 2012, 11:47:10 AM
Victor Richards was never an IFBB pro.

Yes, he is.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: funk51 on July 17, 2012, 11:49:04 AM
Well, Martinez got beautifully screwed at the 07 'O (the fact he had a criminal record sure didn't help) and then got injured the next year and lost his momentum somehow. Dennis James
was heavily hyped after his 4th placing in 2003. But the worst case might have been Fedorov.
wasn't that big a fan of victor m saw him a week or so after he won night of champs in nyc , he was quest posing for marus ruhl who injured himself for a week or so out from a contest not that impressive. wheras the guy piced below looked great questing at an outdoor show out of season.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Nails on July 17, 2012, 11:50:29 AM
"BIG" Daniel Hill




(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=388305.0;attach=419851;image)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: tommywishbone on July 17, 2012, 11:53:36 AM
Flex
Vic Richards
JP Fux
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Danjo on July 17, 2012, 11:53:51 AM
"BIG" Daniel Hill




(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=388305.0;attach=419851;image)
..never heard of him..but his arms look to be about 15'' in that pic..also zero lat size,he must be natural.. :-\
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 17, 2012, 11:59:58 AM
Flex
Vic Richards
JP Fux


Flex won the Arnold few times and was runner up at the Mr.O...




WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Nails on July 17, 2012, 12:02:43 PM
Barry Rubble of bedrock, Az


(http://i56.tinypic.com/2zjb5v4.jpg)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 17, 2012, 12:08:07 PM
Flex
Vic Richards
JP Fux

I know he never lived up, but it's not nice of you to say that Jean Pierre Fux..... >:(
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Nails on July 17, 2012, 12:11:16 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_34PE0ZEgM80/S8-5AD-SA0I/AAAAAAAAH5k/qW8mgZuQV4A/s1600/jean+pierre+fux+%285%29.jpg)

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6494/0000m.jpg)

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9357/000ys.jpg)

(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6849/23892617.jpg)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 17, 2012, 12:14:55 PM
I see one muscle dude and below him 3 frogs..... :-\
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Nails on July 17, 2012, 12:17:40 PM
I see one muscle dude and below him 3 frogs..... :-\

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/023/9/f/michigan_j__frog_buff_no_hat_by_ldejruff-d37wyk9.png)

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/023/9/f/michigan_j__frog_buff_no_hat_by_ldejruff-d37wyk9.png)

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/023/9/f/michigan_j__frog_buff_no_hat_by_ldejruff-d37wyk9.png)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 17, 2012, 12:21:54 PM
Exactly, but on ice.... :D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: JBGRAY on July 17, 2012, 12:29:58 PM
Greg Kovacs......I remember there being all these commercials(cell-Tech...now 450% more effective) for him achieving all these unbelievable strength claims.  He looked great on the pages, but when he stepped on stage :-X
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: D_1000 on July 17, 2012, 12:34:38 PM
He couldn't even win the Russian Grand Prix.  You'd think he'd be a hometown favorite and would easily take first, no matter the competition.  

2003
Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 3rd

2004
Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 2nd

In 2003 beaten by some guys named Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler, in 2004 by that Ronnie guy again.

 ;)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: bike nut on July 17, 2012, 12:39:25 PM
Matt Mendenhall........Jesus H. Christ did Jeff Everson promote the shit out of that guy back in the day.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: POB on July 17, 2012, 02:05:18 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_34PE0ZEgM80/S8-5AD-SA0I/AAAAAAAAH5k/qW8mgZuQV4A/s1600/jean+pierre+fux+%285%29.jpg)

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6494/0000m.jpg)

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9357/000ys.jpg)

(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6849/23892617.jpg)

This guys stomach was out of control, should not of been let on stage
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 17, 2012, 02:45:10 PM
Matt Duvall. Dude with the superman tattoo and did all the cell tech ads in the early 2000's. Finally turned pro, looked horrible, then fell off the map. Maybe it was the glasses?  He'd be "geek sheik" now.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: MCWAY on July 17, 2012, 05:35:25 PM
Greg Kovacs......I remember there being all these commercials(cell-Tech...now 450% more effective) for him achieving all these unbelievable strength claims.  He looked great on the pages, but when he stepped on stage :-X

Nearly all of those pics were shortly after he won the Canadian Nationals, where he looked great. If MuscleTech hadn't keep pushing that he'd compete at 325 lbs ripped, he would have stayed around the size he was in 1996, worked on his weak points ,and perhaps done better as a pro.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: Wolfsanglerune on July 17, 2012, 05:40:21 PM
Pec tear and back asymmetry did him in.
i dont know man....pec tear made it a done deal.the back could have been improved yes.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: MCWAY on July 17, 2012, 07:27:07 PM
Rory Leidelmayer. Such hype. No pro.

Edgar Fletcher. Soulda, coulda, woulda.

Mike Ergas. Whatever happened to him?

JoJo Ntiforo. Perfect shape. Never bothered to diet.

Fauzi Hanst. Perfect shape. Never bothered to diet.

Erik Fromm. Could have been great. Killed himself instead, I think.



This is about living up to the hype, if you will. I don't recall any hype about Hanst, Ntiforo, or Ergas.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders who never live up to the hype
Post by: IceCold on July 17, 2012, 10:08:50 PM
aaron ' mr intensity' maddron

chris cook

kamali...even though it was self hype

demayo