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I remember the day it happened. Squatting 465, I turned wrong...and blam! Lower back killing me.
That was years ago. I've squatted since, but never as heavy. Don't want to go through that pain again.
But you can't rule out squats. So I try..and I end up in pain for weeks...
What can I do to blast quads and not rely on the squat rack?
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I remember the day it happened. Squatting 465, I turned wrong...and blam! Lower back killing me.
That was years ago. I've squatted since, but never as heavy. Don't want to go through that pain again.
But you can't rule out squats. So I try..and I end up in pain for weeks...
What can I do to blast quads and not rely on the squat rack?
There will never be a replacement for back squats broseph. Correct the biomechanical issue here, don't ignore it or try to substitute with inferior exercises.
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I think leg presses from various angles can be helpful if your gym has them (45 degrees, vertical, etc) and front facing squats on the hack squat have been beneficial for me with lower rates of back problems
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QL strain.
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QL strain.
No way to tell just from his description...could be a dozen pathologies causing this
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i have other kind of issues.
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if your not competing just do what u can do no need to squat or do anything heavy you can still have nice legs
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true, your better off lifting smart. in the end you gonna pay the price for it
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I remember the day it happened. Squatting 465, I turned wrong...and blam! Lower back killing me.
That was years ago. I've squatted since, but never as heavy. Don't want to go through that pain again.
But you can't rule out squats. So I try..and I end up in pain for weeks...
What can I do to blast quads and not rely on the squat rack?
How old are you? if you were Diagnosed with a actual Disc injury....take it from me been there done all the real heavy squats, Deadlifts, good mornings, T bar rows etc etc etc....if its a actual DISC issue, heres some Honest Advice........leave it alone as in FORGET "training around" it as in NEVER SQUAT again, cause if your in your late teens early 20s....trust me bye the time you hit you early to late 30s you will wish you did, i didnt listen too advice cause back then as a 20yr old when i first Damaged the back squatting heavy with Bad form >:( anyone over 30 was Old and past it so like the arrogant prick i was i didnt listen :( ...you say you dont want to go though that sort of pain again??....Trust me it gets alot more painful as in can not move and on your back in pain for months and months, and the long term Diagnosis... im talking YEARS and years not weeks of on going issues...you only get one Spine bud look after it if you've Damaged it with a Herniated/bulge Disc injury... take it or leave it from someone whos been there.....its your back.
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true, your better off lifting smart. in the end you gonna pay the price for it
yup exactly right.
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I remember the day it happened. Squatting 465, I turned wrong...and blam! Lower back killing me.
That was years ago. I've squatted since, but never as heavy. Don't want to go through that pain again.
But you can't rule out squats. So I try..and I end up in pain for weeks...
What can I do to blast quads and not rely on the squat rack?
hack squats
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Tore my lower back 6 weeks ago, still not right, I'm limping around like an idiot... I did it squatting...
Finally able to do sets with the empty bar. Without squats and deads, ive been depressed...
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Just train with those strange leg/quad/glute curl machines.
Every fun way of training legs puts at least some pressure on the lower back.
If something feels wrong I stop squatting for at least 2 weeks.
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My back`s a mess,I do leg presses as my main leg exercise........lots of different scenarios you can use.
Lunges are also good as well as step-ups,leg exts.,unilateral leg presses,etc. etc.
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I remember the day it happened. Squatting 465, I turned wrong...and blam! Lower back killing me.
That was years ago. I've squatted since, but never as heavy. Don't want to go through that pain again.
But you can't rule out squats. So I try..and I end up in pain for weeks...
What can I do to blast quads and not rely on the squat rack?
do you compete?
are your legs behind in development compared to other body parts?
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yes i think if your back is bad leave squats alone. Leg press is what i would do, Dumbbell squats, lunges(as mentioned by Wes), extensions(superseted with high rep free hand squats), leg curls and i am sure there are more things you can do.
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As far as leg presses go,try doing one set of 100 reps..........stay on machine until you`re done no matter what.
Another scenario is to do 50,40,30,20,and 10 reps while adding a plate to each side on each set.
As far as squats go,I do squat at times, but I go light on the Smith machine, and squat in rapid succession without locking out at the top...........hurts like hell and no back problems.
Another good one is to do a pre-exhaust super-set of leg extensions,immediately followed by light front squats on the Smith machine...........killer!!
Then you could pick 3-4 exercises and do them all in a row with no rest until the last exercises is done.....rest a few,then repeat for a few more cycles.
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Listen to you doctor. I find when my back gives me problems I can use leg presses, lunges, and front squats. Doing front squats you back is pretty straight. Also deep dumbbell squats holding the dumbbells at your sides sinking deep with your back upright, not in a bend over deadlift position.
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I remember the day it happened. Squatting 465, I turned wrong...and blam! Lower back killing me.
That was years ago. I've squatted since, but never as heavy. Don't want to go through that pain again.
But you can't rule out squats. So I try..and I end up in pain for weeks...
What can I do to blast quads and not rely on the squat rack?
leg presses can still tax the lower back consider this
fyi ironmind makes quality products
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Try bulgarian split squats. Looks stupid but hurt like hell! I feel my legs much more and it is much safer.
Eventually you can end your workout with high rep squat with light weights
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belt squat machines/stations do exist but i havent seen commercial gyms with one
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I can't squat either (lower back problems ) so I made my own belt squat machine, it works perfect .
(http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/equipment/belt-squat/sorinex-belt-squat-machine.jpg)
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Or
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=361974.0;attach=397242;image)
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you dont necessarily need to use a barbell either, ironmind also sells this bar
(http://ironmind-store.com/images/1220-fs_f.jpg)
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Zercher Squat is also a good substitute more so than a leg press
(http://www.projectswole.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/zercher-squats.jpg)
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Zercher Squat is also a good substitute more so than a leg press
(http://www.projectswole.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/zercher-squats.jpg)
Hmmm...would rather do Barbell hack squats
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How old are you? if you were Diagnosed with a actual Disc injury....take it from me been there done all the real heavy squats, Deadlifts, good mornings, T bar rows etc etc etc....if its a actual DISC issue, heres some Honest Advice........leave it alone as in FORGET "training around" it as in NEVER SQUAT again, cause if your in your late teens early 20s....trust me bye the time you hit you early to late 30s you will wish you did, i didnt listen too advice cause back then as a 20yr old when i first Damaged the back squatting heavy with Bad form >:( anyone over 30 was Old and past it so like the arrogant prick i was i didnt listen :( ...you say you dont want to go though that sort of pain again??....Trust me it gets alot more painful as in can not move and on your back in pain for months and months, and the long term Diagnosis... im talking YEARS and years not weeks of on going issues...you only get one Spine bud look after it if you've Damaged it with a Herniated/bulge Disc injury... take it or leave it from someone whos been there.....its your back.
Exact same thing for me. Wrecked my back while I was in college ego lifting(straight leg dead lifts, 455 for sets) and bam, shit went out. Then, tweaked it after college at about 25 trying to move a trailer by picking up the tongue. Went to the doctor and I have two partially degenerated/bulging discs. Did rehab, chiro, and about two years ago finally had a cortisone injection. It is better, but by no means perfect, and there are days I have pretty bad pain. I'm 31 and wish I had never gone that heavy on squats and deads. I'm too tall.
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Or
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=361974.0;attach=397242;image)
hahaha....no lower back issues, but other issues. ;D
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leg presses can still tax the lower back consider this
fyi ironmind makes quality products
the belt is awesome but using it like that is stupidest shit in the world, great way to wreck your knees with a swinging barbell and epic 1/2 reps.
if you use that belt then just hook it on a smith machine. theres no swinging around and you start the set from the top
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leg presses can still tax the lower back consider this
fyi ironmind makes quality products
that hip belt would be awesome safe way to work quads and glutes withought lower back compression
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if your not competing just do what u can do no need to squat or do anything heavy you can still have nice legs
THIS!!..your gonna try and go back to 315+ and REALLY fuck yourself up..for what..be smart
dont listen to the morons who tell you otherwise
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hahahh zercher squats look cool and sound cool but boy do they suck cock!!! not only to the wreck the flesh on the crook of your arms they are still a shitload of stress on the back, but hell i havent tried to do that painful exercise in a while but im sure it would still fuck the shit out of my arms and theyd be all red n shit
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I remember the day it happened. Squatting 465, I turned wrong...and blam! Lower back killing me.
That was years ago. I've squatted since, but never as heavy. Don't want to go through that pain again.
But you can't rule out squats. So I try..and I end up in pain for weeks...
What can I do to blast quads and not rely on the squat rack?
If you already got your size from years of heavy squatting, I think a series of presses and extensions with 25reps each will make your legs look great and keep the size. I don't do anything under 25 reps everything full range of motion and controlled, lots of super and drop sets. Legs are still big more separation and harder. Good luck! I know injuries suck and mess with your head
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Lunges, split squats, that type of stuff, and you should definately not do heavy posterir chains movements again unless you actually recover completely from the injury, if not, your prone to fucking up again with even less weight due to bad recovery.
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hahahh zercher squats look cool and sound cool but boy do they suck cock!!! not only to the wreck the flesh on the crook of your arms they are still a shitload of stress on the back, but hell i havent tried to do that painful exercise in a while but im sure it would still fuck the shit out of my arms and theyd be all red n shit
I agree,fuck that exercise.
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I agree,fuck that exercise.
haha i like how its always recommended but they always leave out how painful it is