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Title: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 09, 2012, 10:36:14 AM
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/japan-remembers-nagasaki-victims-103055695.html
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: funk51 on August 09, 2012, 12:29:28 PM
what was in dem bombs a bunch of sony radioes. >:(
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 09, 2012, 12:41:18 PM
Yes, it was truly a great day.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: OTHstrong on August 09, 2012, 03:15:36 PM
Yes, it was truly a great day.
Nothing great about it
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 09, 2012, 04:36:56 PM
what was in dem bombs a bunch of sony radioes. >:(

I liked the one where he said, "what was in dem bombs, fertilizer?"
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 09, 2012, 04:46:49 PM
Nothing great about it
You fuck with the bull, you get the horns.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 09, 2012, 04:57:28 PM
You fuck with the bull, you get the horns.
  with all due respect, what do you know about the facts of pearl harbour?
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 09, 2012, 05:00:24 PM
 with all due respect, what do you know about the facts of pearl harbour?
Yes, of course I do. (assuming you're alluding to the embargo on Japan and FDR baiting them into attacking us)
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 09, 2012, 05:05:20 PM
Yes, of course I do. (assuming you're alluding to the embargo on Japan and FDR baiting them into attacking us)
I always had a good energy from the one known as shockwave.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: sync pulse on August 09, 2012, 05:33:11 PM
Yes, of course I do. (assuming you're alluding to the embargo on Japan and FDR baiting them into attacking us)

It was known that the United States would be at war with Japan since the 1920's.  Billy Mitchell testified at his court martial in the mid 20's that the US would be at war with Japan...Everyone in the Federal government privately knew that he was right.  The era of naval experimentation with Zepplins took place because they wanted a system of early warning of hostile Japanese naval fleets.  
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: OTHstrong on August 09, 2012, 05:33:51 PM
You fuck with the bull, you get the horns.
Let me get this straight, you have no problem taking 5000 children between the ages of 2-8, breaking 20-30 different bones on their bodies, then burn them beyond recognition, then bury them under 1000's of pounds of concrete, awaiting a very slow and painful death in the dark motionless while hearing the most horrific screams of torment for 36 hours at least before they die.

So tell me did these children fuck with the bull?

Bro look at my post's, I am pro USA all the way, modern day US and I think they contribute greatly to the world but make no mistake, what they did to Japan was the greatest of all war crimes against humanity.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 09, 2012, 05:44:23 PM
Let me get this straight, you have no problem taking 5000 children between the ages of 2-8, breaking 20-30 different bones on their bodies, then burn them beyond recognition, then bury them under 1000's of pounds of concrete, awaiting a very slow and painful death in the dark motionless while hearing the most horrific screams of torment for 36 hours at least before they die.

So tell me did these children fuck with the bull?

Bro look at my post's, I am pro USA all the way, modern day US and I think they contribute greatly to the world but make no mistake, what they did to Japan was the greatest of all war crimes against humanity.
Well, it was either end the war in one swift stroke, or lose countless lives on both sides.
I'm pretty sure we made the right choice. Terrible things happen in war. You have to weigh the options. 150,000 Japanese men, women and children, or untold more on both sides?

You know they would use their women and children as suicide bombers towards the end, right?
They would have armed every woman and child that could carry a Katana, and we would have had to kill EVERY, SINGLE, ONE, on our march through Japan. Seeing the options, I'm pretty sure we made the right choice.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: OTHstrong on August 09, 2012, 05:56:22 PM
Well, it was either end the war in one swift stroke, or lose countless lives on both sides.
I'm pretty sure we made the right choice. Terrible things happen in war. You have to weigh the options. 150,000 Japanese men, women and children, or untold more on both sides?

You know they would use their women and children as suicide bombers towards the end, right?
They would have armed every woman and child that could carry a Katana, and we would have had to kill EVERY, SINGLE, ONE, on our march through Japan. Seeing the options, I'm pretty sure we made the right choice.
It wasn`t the right choice. In battle you bring it on the battle field against soldiers and if there is collateral damage in this regard so be it. You don`t deliberately attack civilians with weapons of mass destruction. Follow the rules, even the ancient barbaric savages fighting on horses with swords have more class then this.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 09, 2012, 06:00:39 PM
It wasn`t the right choice. In battle you bring it on the battle field against soldiers and if there is collateral damage in this regard so be it. You don`t deliberately attack civilians with weapons of mass destruction. Follow the rules, even the ancient barbaric savages fighting on horses with swords have more class then this.
Yes, because we knew what WMD's were when we developed the A-Bomb. They didn't even know what the effects of radiation were, they had troops trying to sweep up the radiation from the test bombs for fucks sake.
It was the right choice, it saved lives on both sides. End of story. Stop letting sentiment get in the way of cold hard logic in this case.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: OTHstrong on August 09, 2012, 06:12:07 PM
Yes, because we knew what WMD's were when we developed the A-Bomb. They didn't even know what the effects of radiation were, they had troops trying to sweep up the radiation from the test bombs for fucks sake.
It was the right choice, it saved lives on both sides. End of story. Stop letting sentiment get in the way of cold hard logic in this case.
Ok so why didn`t they do it in Vietnam, I will tell you why cause they would be hung, the world would turn on the US in a heart beat. If the exact same scenerio occurred it would not be allowed, cause it is wrong, nothing logic about killing innocent civilians. Anybody with a brain knows this.

Ya let`s go kill innocent German and Italian civilians in cold blood so their armies stop fighting to end the war. Nice fucken logic, The Persian, Greeks,  Romans, and every great nation known to man has never applied this stupid logic you speak of. Kill innocent civilians to stop a war, fucken brilliant.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 09, 2012, 06:15:46 PM
Ok so why didn`t they do it in Vietnam, I will tell you why cause they would be hung, the world would turn on the US in a heart beat. If the exact same scenerio occurred it would not be allowed, cause it is wrong, nothing logic about killing innocent civilians. Anybody with a brain knows this.

Ya let`s go kill innocent German and Italian civilians in cold blood so their armies stop fighting to end the war. Nice fucken logic, The Persian, Greeks,  Romans, and every great nation known to man has never applied this stupid logic you speak of. Kill innocent civilians to stop a war, fucken brilliant.
A. Different time, different war, different rules.
B. So let me get this straight, you'd be perfectly fine with the estimated 1 million US casualties if we invaded, not even counting the men, women and children we'd have to kill to invade the Japanese mainland (who, you seem to forget, were some of the most fanatical people of their time when it came to their motherland).

Besides, the Japanese were fucking barbarians during the war. They had no rules. It was victory or death. You don't beat someone like that by playing nice.
Its a good thing you're not allowed to make military decisions, you can't set your emotions aside and look at things honestly.

And you're way off base with your history lesson man, all the old warrior societies slaughtered or enslaved innocent civilians. Don't know where you get your information from.

As for this gem -
Quote
Kill innocent civilians to stop a war, fucken brilliant.
It worked, didn't it? Japan surrendered. Your logic kinda backfired miserably.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 09, 2012, 07:16:34 PM
A. Different time, different war, different rules.
B. So let me get this straight, you'd be perfectly fine with the estimated 1 million US casualties if we invaded, not even counting the men, women and children we'd have to kill to invade the Japanese mainland (who, you seem to forget, were some of the most fanatical people of their time when it came to their motherland).

Besides, the Japanese were fucking barbarians during the war. They had no rules. It was victory or death. You don't beat someone like that by playing nice.
Its a good thing you're not allowed to make military decisions, you can't set your emotions aside and look at things honestly.

And you're way off base with your history lesson man, all the old warrior societies slaughtered or enslaved innocent civilians. Don't know where you get your information from.

As for this gem - It worked, didn't it? Japan surrendered. Your logic kinda backfired miserably.

Don't even bother.  Only mistake we made is that we should have dropped one on Tokyo too.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 09, 2012, 07:19:32 PM
Yeah shockwave, it was estimated at a million US casualties, that's not counting the japs. If you were an American in one of their POW camps, you had a 10% chance of survival, whereas you had about an 80% chance of surviving a Nazi POW camp. Those japs were ruthless, and they new what was coming, bombings anyway, and still chose to fight on. It's called collateral damage onetime, and that's why war is hell.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: hrspwr on August 09, 2012, 07:29:46 PM
Don't even bother.  Only mistake we made is that we should have dropped one on Tokyo too.

 The incendiary strategy was actually more effective, and cheaper.

 I`m pretty sure if you were to ask the koreans, the chinese and the phillipinos, to name a few, they would all be pretty happy with the way we treated the japs.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 09, 2012, 07:33:03 PM
The incendiary strategy was actually more effective, and cheaper.

 I`m pretty sure if you were to ask the koreans, the chinese and the phillipinos, to name a few, they would all be pretty happy with the way we treated the japs.

Exactly.  Japs were ruthless and got exactly what they deserved.  No remorse.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 10, 2012, 05:36:40 AM
Come with it now
Come with it now

The microphone explodes, shattering the molds
Ya either drop tha hits like de la O or get the fuck off the commode
With the sure shot, sure to make the bodies drop
Drop and don't copy yo, don't call this a co-opt
Terror rains drenchin', quenchin' the thirst of the power drones
That five sided fist-a-gon
The rotten sore on the face of mother earth gets bigger
Tha triggers cold empty your purse

They rally round the family
With a pocket full of shells
[X4]
[ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rage+against+the+machine/bulls+on+parade_20113430.html ]
Weapons not food, not homes, not shoes
Not need, just feed the war cannibal animal
I walk the corner to the rubble that used to be a library
Line up to the mind cemetary, now
What we don't know keeps the contracts alive an movin'
They don't gotta burn tha books they just remove 'em
While arms warehouses fill as quick as the cells
Rally round tha family, pocket full of shells

Rally round the family
With a pocket full of shells

They rally round the family
With a pocket full of shells
[X3]

Bulls on parade

Come with it now
Come with it now

Bulls on parade
Bulls on parade
Bulls on parade
Bulls on parade
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 10, 2012, 05:49:10 AM
Come with it now
Come with it now

The microphone explodes, shattering the molds
Ya either drop tha hits like de la O or get the fuck off the commode
With the sure shot, sure to make the bodies drop
Drop and don't copy yo, don't call this a co-opt
Terror rains drenchin', quenchin' the thirst of the power drones
That five sided fist-a-gon
The rotten sore on the face of mother earth gets bigger
Tha triggers cold empty your purse

They rally round the family
With a pocket full of shells
[X4]
[ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rage+against+the+machine/bulls+on+parade_20113430.html ]
Weapons not food, not homes, not shoes
Not need, just feed the war cannibal animal
I walk the corner to the rubble that used to be a library
Line up to the mind cemetary, now
What we don't know keeps the contracts alive an movin'
They don't gotta burn tha books they just remove 'em
While arms warehouses fill as quick as the cells
Rally round tha family, pocket full of shells

Rally round the family
With a pocket full of shells

They rally round the family
With a pocket full of shells
[X3]

Bulls on parade

Come with it now
Come with it now

Bulls on parade
Bulls on parade
Bulls on parade
Bulls on parade

I haven't listened to Rage in a looonnggg time.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Donny on August 10, 2012, 06:06:37 AM
I would not liked to have been the man to say OK lets do it. I canīt really say a lot to this because i was an artillery soldier and one thing we did with the US army was "Tech ops" .. wonīt go into details but we had M109A2 howitzers and we had to learn how to arm chemical and nuclear rounds(this was cold war time) now as a young boy in the army i know that i would have fired the Gun. Now i think about it and i am so happy i never. We used to get "crashed out" at any time to move into our "last defense positions" where the guns would be dug in and you fired the shit and die. I really hope that what happend to the japanese(who i agree were Bastards,my Uncle was a pow with them) never happens again.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: OTHstrong on August 10, 2012, 05:21:08 PM
I would not liked to have been the man to say OK lets do it. I canīt really say a lot to this because i was an artillery soldier and one thing we did with the US army was "Tech ops" .. wonīt go into details but we had M109A2 howitzers and we had to learn how to arm chemical and nuclear rounds(this was cold war time) now as a young boy in the army i know that i would have fired the Gun. Now i think about it and i am so happy i never. We used to get "crashed out" at any time to move into our "last defense positions" where the guns would be dug in and you fired the shit and die. I really hope that what happend to the japanese(who i agree were Bastards,my Uncle was a pow with them) never happens again.
Interesting

Exactly.  Japs were ruthless and got exactly what they deserved.  No remorse.
No one is disagreeing with the Japs being ruthless, they where animals, that`s for sure and I would have no problem if the US used Nukes against them in battle, but not on innocent woman and children. Now about history, bro I have studied 2000 battles, I am a historian and believe me I have a passion for it. I even memorized the entire Sun Tzu  8). 

Anyhow the days of conquest of killing woman and children came to and end with the Babylonian Empire. By the Achaemenid dynasty no nation was killing woman in children, at least not by political orders, of course there is always a few retards. They always thought to incorporate the enemies resources and already established civil structure. Any nation of intiquity or mid-evil times could have started killing innocent civilians to change the paths of war, but no one ever did this as war-time strategy because it is out-right demonic. Imagine going into a stadium in Germany and open fire on civilians in order to change their governments agenda, ya it might work but it is not war like conduct as harsh as war is, this is a war crime.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 10, 2012, 05:40:04 PM
Interesting
No one is disagreeing with the Japs being ruthless, they where animals, that`s for sure and I would have no problem if the US used Nukes against them in battle, but not on innocent woman and children. Now about history, bro I have studied 2000 battles, I am a historian and believe me I have a passion for it. I even memorized the entire Sun Tzu  8). 

Anyhow the days of conquest of killing woman and children came to and end with the Babylonian Empire. By the Achaemenid dynasty no nation was killing woman in children, at least not by political orders, of course there is always a few retards. They always thought to incorporate the enemies resources and already established civil structure. Any nation of intiquity or mid-evil times could have started killing innocent civilians to change the paths of war, but no one ever did this as war-time strategy because it is out-right demonic. Imagine going into a stadium in Germany and open fire on civilians in order to change their governments agenda, ya it might work but it is not war like conduct as harsh as war is, this is a war crime.
               Full statistics for the tragic fate of children who died during the Holocaust will never be known. Some estimates range as high as 1.5 million murdered children. This figure includes more than 1.2 million Jewish children, tens of thousands of Gypsy children and thousands of institutionalized handicapped children who were murdered under Nazi rule in Germany and occupied Europe.
Although children were seldom the targets of Nazi violence because they were children, they were persecuted along with their families for racial, religious, or political reasons. Children are not a single unified group because of the enormous and complex variations in their situation and ages. It is important to separate the distinct needs of three different age groups: (1) infants and toddlers up to age 6; (2) young children ages 7 to 12; and (3) adolescents from 13 to 18 years old. Their respective chances for survival and their ability to perform physical labor varied enormously by age. Chances of survival were somewhat higher for older children, since they could potentially be assigned to forced labor in concentration camps and ghettos
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: a_ahmed on August 11, 2012, 12:23:47 AM
Well, it was either end the war in one swift stroke, or lose countless lives on both sides.
I'm pretty sure we made the right choice. Terrible things happen in war. You have to weigh the options. 150,000 Japanese men, women and children, or untold more on both sides?

You know they would use their women and children as suicide bombers towards the end, right?
They would have armed every woman and child that could carry a Katana, and we would have had to kill EVERY, SINGLE, ONE, on our march through Japan. Seeing the options, I'm pretty sure we made the right choice.

On behalf of the muslim world, and on behalf of the japanese. I would like to sincerely tell you to go fuck yourself and die in a rotten hole.

You're nothing but a stinky fucking killer cold blooded with no feeling, hypocrisy, cynicism, hatred and dishonesty from every single post.

Everything non-american, whether child, woman, elderly is nothing and nothing to you compared to the biggest trolling homo massacring US crap that you all the time support no matter how crude.

Fuck you and go die a miserable death for arguing the deaths of others.

*salute*

Really FUNNY how you argue of others being 'violent' and americans wanting to 'help' people. America is the one killing and killing and killing. When the mention of a 100,000 ppl dying is mentioned, when 500,000 children died in iraq from sanctions, when some million people died in the last ten years from your warfares. You turn a blind eye. But when it comes to your bs propaganda of them otherz are teh evil and them mozlems are evil and wrong you troll and troll.

Again go fuck yourself and die a terrible miserable death.

It's SICKENING... was it last year? The same thing remembering the bombings, in the US there was a 'memorial/celebration' of the bomb invention and they were showcasing replicas. WTF?

........................ ........................ ........*(#@(*(*##@*(
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: a_ahmed on August 11, 2012, 12:33:37 AM
This is the same shit you are saying, in the same tone, in the same manner. This bitch needs to rot in a hole and burn in hell. Frickin witch.



Same shit "it was worth it". WTF?! Who are YOU to decide that? It's just disgusting. Hypocrisy upon hypocrisy when you label others ruthless or violent or whatever. And I know alot about Japanese culture having had an interest in studying them and they have some weird pride in their culture, excessive arrogant pride, and they were ruthless, raping chinese, korean, etc... but STILL... wiping out a whole 100,000 ppl makes you no better.

The more and more we move away from WWI/II the more and more the US is becoming that RUTHLESS bastard in the world.

Look.. you had no shame of dropping nukes on japan. No american soul goes in, bombs drop. Now today? What is it? You don't even step in with your bodies, you use robots and UAVs? To mercilessly kill like a video game.

You are so damn detached from reality, desynthesized to what YOU are doing... and you wonder why people in the rest of the world hate you?

Seriously are you as dumb fuck as George W Bush "They hate our freedoms" GTFO, learn some recent history what the US has been doing, black ops, wars, proxy, direct, etc...

People hate America for what its doing around the world. You as a nation would be better off if you just stuck in your own damn land and tried to fix the corruption in washington, economy, etc... instead you are screwing the rest of the world more and more, bringing the world closer to world war 3 AND screwing yourself over economically and in every other way.

Not only are you doing disservice to others you are doing disservice to yourself!
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 11, 2012, 05:46:23 AM
On behalf of the muslim world, and on behalf of the japanese. I would like to sincerely tell you to go fuck yourself and die in a rotten hole.

You're nothing but a stinky fucking killer cold blooded with no feeling, hypocrisy, cynicism, hatred and dishonesty from every single post.

Everything non-american, whether child, woman, elderly is nothing and nothing to you compared to the biggest trolling homo massacring US crap that you all the time support no matter how crude.

Fuck you and go die a miserable death for arguing the deaths of others.

*salute*

Really FUNNY how you argue of others being 'violent' and americans wanting to 'help' people. America is the one killing and killing and killing. When the mention of a 100,000 ppl dying is mentioned, when 500,000 children died in iraq from sanctions, when some million people died in the last ten years from your warfares. You turn a blind eye. But when it comes to your bs propaganda of them otherz are teh evil and them mozlems are evil and wrong you troll and troll.

Again go fuck yourself and die a terrible miserable death.

It's SICKENING... was it last year? The same thing remembering the bombings, in the US there was a 'memorial/celebration' of the bomb invention and they were showcasing replicas. WTF?

........................ ........................ ........*(#@(*(*##@*(
Bahahahahaa, sounds like someone is butthurt over the fact that no one on here gives a shit about your shitty posts trying to convince us how peaceful Islam is.
Fuck off back to your mud hut, kthxbye.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 11, 2012, 06:02:27 AM
Bahahahahaa, sounds like someone is butthurt over the fact that no one on here gives a shit about your shitty posts trying to convince us how peaceful Islam is.
Fuck off back to your mud hut, kthxbye.
  Im guessing ahmed has quite the temper, thats allot of typing but I do see his point. I think America has been desensitized to war and violence. From the films we grew up with and a war every few years, creation of boogeymen, propaganda all as a stimulas and rallying for invasion.. We need to start sharpening our minds and put the swords down for a while but they wont let that happen.  "Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it."
- Noam Chomsky
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 11, 2012, 06:47:38 AM
  Im guessing ahmed has quite the temper, thats allot of typing but I do see his point. I think America has been desensitized to war and violence. From the films we grew up with and a war every few years, creation of boogeymen, propaganda all as a stimulas and rallying for invasion.. We need to start sharpening our minds and put the swords down for a while but they wont let that happen.  "Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it."
- Noam Chomsky
I know, its just far more fun to troll him that actually talk to him, its especially hilarious as he clearly takes himself far too seriously and has no sense of humor. (Either that or he is a great troll account)
He should know better than to try and be taken seriously here.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 11, 2012, 07:13:22 AM
This is the same shit you are saying, in the same tone, in the same manner. This bitch needs to rot in a hole and burn in hell. Frickin witch.



Same shit "it was worth it". WTF?! Who are YOU to decide that? It's just disgusting. Hypocrisy upon hypocrisy when you label others ruthless or violent or whatever. And I know alot about Japanese culture having had an interest in studying them and they have some weird pride in their culture, excessive arrogant pride, and they were ruthless, raping chinese, korean, etc... but STILL... wiping out a whole 100,000 ppl makes you no better.

The more and more we move away from WWI/II the more and more the US is becoming that RUTHLESS bastard in the world.

Look.. you had no shame of dropping nukes on japan. No american soul goes in, bombs drop. Now today? What is it? You don't even step in with your bodies, you use robots and UAVs? To mercilessly kill like a video game.

You are so damn detached from reality, desynthesized to what YOU are doing... and you wonder why people in the rest of the world hate you?

Seriously are you as dumb fuck as George W Bush "They hate our freedoms" GTFO, learn some recent history what the US has been doing, black ops, wars, proxy, direct, etc...

People hate America for what its doing around the world. You as a nation would be better off if you just stuck in your own damn land and tried to fix the corruption in washington, economy, etc... instead you are screwing the rest of the world more and more, bringing the world closer to world war 3 AND screwing yourself over economically and in every other way.

Not only are you doing disservice to others you are doing disservice to yourself!
Btw, meltdown

(In the spirit of the thread and all, heres a pic of the bombing of Nagasaki.)
(http://www.arkibongbayan.org/2011/2011-08Aug05-hiroshima/pix/bomb/45hiroshima%20a-bomb.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8_ENa7sVpug/TQeqvy3jKSI/AAAAAAAAQeY/Hft-FSecwT0/s1600/Hiroshima%2Band%2BNagasaki%2BBombing%2BPicture%2B7.jpg)
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 11, 2012, 07:17:01 AM
"Calm Like A Bomb"


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I be walkin' god like a dog
My narrative fearless
My word war returns to burn
Like Baldwin home from Paris
Like Steel from a furnace
I was born landless
This is tha native son
Born of Zapata's guns
Stroll through tha shanties
And tha cities remains
Same bodies buried hungry
But with different last names
These vultures rob everything
Leave nothing but chains
Pick a point on tha globe
Yes tha pictures tha same
There's a bank There's a church a myth and a hearse
A mall and a loan a child dead at birth
There's a widow pig parrot
A rebel to tame
A whitehooded judge
A syringe and a vein

And tha riot be tha rhyme of tha unheard
what ya say, what ya say, what ya say, what?
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This ain't subliminal
Feel tha critical mass approach horizon
Tha pulse of tha condemned
Sound off America's demise
Tha anti-myth rhythm rock shocker
Yes I spit fire
Hope lies in tha smoldering rubble of empires
Yes back through tha shanties and tha cities remains
Tha same bodies buried hungry
But with different last names
These vultures rob everyone
Leave nothing but chains
Pick a point here at home
Yes tha picture's tha same
There's a field full of slaves
Some corn and some debt
There's a ditch full of bodies
Tha check for tha rent
There's a tap, tha phone, tha silence of stone
Tha numb black screen
That be feelin' like home

And tha riot be tha rhyme of tha unheard
What ya say, what ya say, what ya say, what?
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Ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite

Calm like a bomb
Ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite
Calm like a bomb
Ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite
Calm like a bomb
Ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite
Calm like a bomb
Ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite, ignite
Calm Like a bomb

There's a mass without roofs
There's a prison to fill
There's a country's soul that reads post no bills
There's a strike and a line of cops outside of tha mill
There's a right to obey
And there's a right to kill
There's a mass without roofs
There's a prison to fill
There's a country's soul that reads post no bills
There's a strike and a line of cops outside of tha mill
There's a right to obey
And there's a right to kill



Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 11, 2012, 01:04:06 PM
Aren't you white and living in a Westernized country? Go visit the Muslim world as it exists in reality (and not just the theoretical construct in your head) and try to live there for a time. I especially recommend Pakistan.

Maybe you'll love it, but chances are you'll be back in your Westernized country sooner rather than later. And this will evince what you really feel about the sociological reality of the Muslim world at this point in time, no matter how many whiny posts you make from a Western fortress of privilege praising the Muslim world and denouncing the West.
And this justifies genocide??? NAZI!
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 11, 2012, 01:17:21 PM
And this justifies genocide??? NAZI!
Im so confused.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 11, 2012, 01:20:55 PM
lol me too! ;D Maybe ahmed and syntex are the same guy.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 11, 2012, 02:42:56 PM
What's there to be confused about: "ahmed" is a whiteboy living in a Western country and enjoying its privileges while simultaneously lecturing us about the virtues of Islam and the Muslim world. I'm simply encouraging him to get some "on the ground experience" with how Islam tends to play out when it dominates a society by living in a place like Pakistan for a time. Whiteboy would be running back to the evil genocidal empires he so loathes in short order, methinks.

  of course, because they have as many simpletons in Pakistan as they do everywhere else.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 11, 2012, 03:45:23 PM
What's there to be confused about: "ahmed" is a whiteboy living in a Western country and enjoying its privileges while simultaneously lecturing us about the virtues of Islam and the Muslim world. I'm simply encouraging him to get some "on the ground experience" with how Islam tends to play out when it dominates a society by living in a place like Pakistan for a time. Whiteboy would be running back to the evil genocidal empires he so loathes in short order, methinks.

Confused because bighead somehow got that you were supporting genocide from your 1st post.

Anyway, if he truly is a white, euro, convert, then we need us some Uberman in this thread, as Muslims were what drove him out of his home country, for the lulz.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 11, 2012, 04:23:57 PM
Confused because bighead somehow got that you were supporting genocide from your 1st post.

Anyway, if he truly is a white, euro, convert, then we need us some Uberman in this thread, as Muslims were what drove him out of his home country, for the lulz.
syntax knows what I mean, dropping the A bomb is genocide. People who feel superior often use this rhetoric to justify atrocities be it japan or the west bank.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 11, 2012, 04:28:24 PM
syntax knows what I mean, dropping the A bomb is genocide.
Uh... I don't know if I agree with your definition of genocide there bromosexual.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 11, 2012, 04:31:02 PM
Uh... I don't know if I agree with your definition of genocide there bromosexual.
  well yes, it doesnt discriminate. so I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Danjo on August 11, 2012, 04:32:01 PM
What's there to be confused about: "ahmed" is a whiteboy living in a Western country and enjoying its privileges while simultaneously lecturing us about the virtues of Islam and the Muslim world. I'm simply encouraging him to get some "on the ground experience" with how Islam tends to play out when it dominates a society by living in a place like Pakistan for a time. Whiteboy would be running back to the evil genocidal empires he so loathes in short order, methinks.

The truth. Good post.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: a_ahmed on August 11, 2012, 04:43:06 PM
Aren't you white and living in a Westernized country? Go visit the Muslim world as it exists in reality (and not just the theoretical construct in your head) and try to live there for a time. I especially recommend Pakistan.

Maybe you'll love it, but chances are you'll be back in your Westernized country sooner rather than later. And this will evince what you really feel about the sociological reality of the Muslim world at this point in time, no matter how many whiny posts you make from a Western fortress of privilege praising the Muslim world and denouncing the West.

I did I lived there as a christian. You now mad?
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: a_ahmed on August 11, 2012, 05:10:56 PM
Because my family and I travelled a lot.

I've been all around and your own attitude pisses me off thinking that the rest of the world is shit and that what we have here is 'the best'. The attitude that 'go back to that country' and all that is nothing but redneck bullocks.

Something you don't understand or know about you slander.

People over there don't have to be living on anti-depressents, don't have to be stressed out and panicking about bills and credit and debt like westerners do. They have a different more peaceful life style. It's just difficult to enjoy all the wealth there when it is in the possession of dictators that the US imposes. When these countries are constantly bombared.

My father worked as a contractor in Iraq with a bunch of different international companies (US, Turkish, German, Yugoslavian) on construction projects before the iran-iraq war, during the iran-iraq war. The country was a jewel but after the US bombed it back to the stone age..

Coming to Canada I had quite a few Iraqi christian friends. They also hate your guts.

Honestly... it's what you do to others that makes you so hated.

I loved living in Libya and Tunisia. I am sad that some hundred thousand ppl just died thanks to NATO. Gadaffi was not saint, he was an ass, in fact he was anti-religion. He bombed whole villages that he deemed as 'extremists' and killed them all off. The US just used the circumstances to support groups of muslims that had this against Gadaffi and justifably so, but the US only does so in their own interests and would not allow these muslims to fully rule themselves without some sort of puppetry as is the case now in Libya. My uncle lived in Libya for 30 years. He is still not Muslim.

And being Muslim does not mean being Arab. Islam is for all mankind. Arabs are like a minority of the muslim population today. The most muslims in the world are in Indoensia/Malaysia, then India/Pakistan and then even Nigera. The arab countries are there but you'd be surprised. Heck china has 20 million muslims at least (that's according to state statistics).
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 11, 2012, 05:18:26 PM
Because my family and I travelled a lot.

I've been all around and your own attitude pisses me off thinking that the rest of the world is shit and that what we have here is 'the best'. The attitude that 'go back to that country' and all that is nothing but redneck bullocks.

Something you don't understand or know about you slander.

People over there don't have to be living on anti-depressents, don't have to be stressed out and panicking about bills and credit and debt like westerners do. They have a different more peaceful life style. It's just difficult to enjoy all the wealth there when it is in the possession of dictators that the US imposes. When these countries are constantly bombared.

My father worked as a contractor in Iraq with a bunch of different international companies (US, Turkish, German, Yugoslavian) on construction projects before the iran-iraq war, during the iran-iraq war. The country was a jewel but after the US bombed it back to the stone age..

Coming to Canada I had quite a few Iraqi christian friends. They also hate your guts.

Honestly... it's what you do to others that makes you so hated.

I loved living in Libya and Tunisia. I am sad that some hundred thousand ppl just died thanks to NATO. Gadaffi was not saint, he was an ass, in fact he was anti-religion. He bombed whole villages that he deemed as 'extremists' and killed them all off. The US just used the circumstances to support groups of muslims that had this against Gadaffi and justifably so, but the US only does so in their own interests and would not allow these muslims to fully rule themselves without some sort of puppetry as is the case now in Libya. My uncle lived in Libya for 30 years. He is still not Muslim.

And being Muslim does not mean being Arab. Islam is for all mankind. Arabs are like a minority of the muslim population today. The most muslims in the world are in Indoensia/Malaysia, then India/Pakistan and then even Nigera. The arab countries are there but you'd be surprised. Heck china has 20 million muslims at least (that's according to state statistics).
I'm sure your "family" loved it there.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: a_ahmed on August 11, 2012, 05:20:11 PM
-_- you know they are making fun of you right? For being an ignorant douche?

Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 11, 2012, 05:21:31 PM
-_- you know they are making fun of you right? For being an ignorant douche?


Yes, I am well aware of Family Guy's satire.

On a serious note, did you convert to Islam because you married a Muslim? Or did your family convert when you chose to?
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: a_ahmed on August 11, 2012, 05:32:35 PM
Nope, I got married after becoming Muslim for wanting a serious long-term relationship because as muslims we don't believe in pre-marital sex, or hanky panky behind the scenes/etc... you really save yourself the headaches and drama. Before getting married women were a big headache of drama. Unneeded emotional rollercoaster. Of course getting married has its learning curve too but I would never go back. Thank God my wife is wonderful and I love her.

My mother, father, me, younger uncle and grand mother became muslim. I was reading on my own, they were reading on their own.

I studied Christianity in depth, just to be sure. I went to Christian school and came to the conclusion that the message of God has been massacred by men (starting with Paul, Constantine and the church and everything after). It's come to be a religion of do what you like and you got a free ticket to heaven for believing Jesus is God. The end.  Doesn't fly with me. One very real reason why most euro-centric mind-sets believe that all religions are man-made like christianity but that is because they only know christianity.

I also researched other religions not to start mentioning all of them but european, asian, african, ancient, etc... hinduism, budhism were the most turn off impractical and cheeze riddled with flaws, heck I even studied pagan, african, greek, roman religions, just out of curiosity. Zoroastrianism was interesting.

I just loved reading period. History, cultures, languages, it all intrigued me. Ancient cultures such as that of the Chinese, Indian, mesopotamian, summerian, aztecs, mayans, the whole works. Of course I read about europe's history too and i had to study it in depth. I went to french school too so i got a good share of reading about french history every frickin king and knowing their biography. Including Charlamange the one that used to go around and kill people if they did not 'baptize on the spot'. Christianity spread by the sword not Islam. This is fact.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Natural Man on August 11, 2012, 05:37:19 PM
I have bad news for you achmed.

Ultimately all of you muslims will die and wont be part of the future of mankind, of this you can be sure.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: a_ahmed on August 11, 2012, 05:39:08 PM
I have bad news for you achmed.

Ultimately all of you muslims will die and wont be part of the future of mankind, of this you can be sure.

So why are you afraid of islam spreading and muslims spreading if you have this magical proof? Even if you are trying to be 'comical' you are pretty sick.

Such evil and disturbing sinister thinking. It's really ironic how some of you guys claim others of being violent somehow, yet in reality who is the one that's violent and with evil intentions? You demonize Islam and Muslims yet?... It's just sad.

And I know you are trying to say ahmed with a throat spitting achhhhhhh... but just so you know its Jews not Arabs who speak like that and prounce that letter like that ;)
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: WillGrant on August 12, 2012, 03:18:48 AM
What's there to be confused about: "ahmed" is a whiteboy living in a Western country and enjoying its privileges while simultaneously lecturing us about the virtues of Islam and the Muslim world. I'm simply encouraging him to get some "on the ground experience" with how Islam tends to play out when it dominates a society by living in a place like Pakistan for a time. Whiteboy would be running back to the evil genocidal empires he so loathes in short order, methinks.

Ahmed, whilst there please pat a camel for me - I think they are misunderstood creatures
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: outby43 on August 12, 2012, 03:54:11 AM

And I know you are trying to say ahmed with a throat spitting achhhhhhh... but just so you know its Jews not Arabs who speak like that and prounce that letter like that ;)

Bullshit !!!!  I deal with these fuckers every once in a while over the phone for IT issues they have at whatever shit hole they work out of.  I have no clue why they insist on calling.  I mean shit..we all work in IT so tech the fuck up and send an email or instant message.  Fucking jerkoffs.  
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: garebear on August 12, 2012, 04:18:20 AM
Interesting
No one is disagreeing with the Japs being ruthless, they where animals, that`s for sure and I would have no problem if the US used Nukes against them in battle, but not on innocent woman and children. Now about history, bro I have studied 2000 battles, I am a historian and believe me I have a passion for it. I even memorized the entire Sun Tzu  8). 

Anyhow the days of conquest of killing woman and children came to and end with the Babylonian Empire. By the Achaemenid dynasty no nation was killing woman in children, at least not by political orders, of course there is always a few retards. They always thought to incorporate the enemies resources and already established civil structure. Any nation of intiquity or mid-evil times could have started killing innocent civilians to change the paths of war, but no one ever did this as war-time strategy because it is out-right demonic. Imagine going into a stadium in Germany and open fire on civilians in order to change their governments agenda, ya it might work but it is not war like conduct as harsh as war is, this is a war crime.
Your voluminous reading has not improved your spelling or grammar. Maybe you should hit the books again.

Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: hrspwr on August 12, 2012, 05:27:07 AM
So why are you afraid of islam spreading and muslims spreading if you have this magical proof? Even if you are trying to be 'comical' you are pretty sick.

Such evil and disturbing sinister thinking. It's really ironic how some of you guys claim others of being violent somehow, yet in reality who is the one that's violent and with evil intentions? You demonize Islam and Muslims yet?... It's just sad.

 

 Isn`t islam the religion where they routinely fuck little kids, catholics and jerry sandusky noted, and beat women to death? Save the sales pitch hadji, you muslims are some barbarian mother fuckers just like everyone else.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: syntaxmachine on August 12, 2012, 08:01:05 AM

Because my family and I travelled a lot.


That doesn't at all explain why you left for good. You can travel extensively and still return home. Don't you long to return and leave a country that is complicit with Western genocide behind? If Islam-dominated countries were so great you'd think you'd be anxious to return.


The country was a jewel but after the US bombed it back to the stone age..


Yes, the country with mass graves still being unearthed and the record for deadliest chemical attack on its own citizens was quite the ""gem."  ::)
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 12, 2012, 08:04:23 AM
That doesn't at all explain why you left for good. You can travel extensively and still return home. Don't you long to return and leave a country that is complicit with Western genocide behind? If Islam-dominated countries were so great you'd think you'd be anxious to return.

Yes, the country with mass graves still being unearthed and the record for deadliest chemical attack on its own citizens was quite the ""gem."  ::)

Lol.
Ahmed doesn't like logic.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 12, 2012, 08:42:48 AM
That doesn't at all explain why you left for good. You can travel extensively and still return home. Don't you long to return and leave a country that is complicit with Western genocide behind? If Islam-dominated countries were so great you'd think you'd be anxious to return.

Yes, the country with mass graves still being unearthed and the record for deadliest chemical attack on its own citizens was quite the ""gem."  ::)

wasnt the usa allied with Iraq when that happened? who supplied the poison gas?
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 12, 2012, 09:45:22 AM
wasnt the usa allied with Iraq when that happened? who supplied the poison gas?
Satan gave Hussein the gas.
Satan loved Hussein.

Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 12, 2012, 10:58:40 AM
Gadaffi, Hussein, Mubarak, BinLaden,etc,etc....anyone see a pattern here?
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 12, 2012, 11:07:21 AM
Gadaffi, Hussein, Mubarak, BinLaden,etc,etc....anyone see a pattern here?
That we off middle eastern dictators when they have outlived their usefulness?
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 12, 2012, 11:15:49 AM
That we off middle eastern dictators when they have outlived their usefulness?
 SHOCKWAVE you are the ying to my yang. word. no homo. lol
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: garebear on August 12, 2012, 07:02:19 PM
So why are you afraid of islam spreading and muslims spreading if you have this magical proof? Even if you are trying to be 'comical' you are pretty sick.

Such evil and disturbing sinister thinking. It's really ironic how some of you guys claim others of being violent somehow, yet in reality who is the one that's violent and with evil intentions? You demonize Islam and Muslims yet?... It's just sad.

And I know you are trying to say ahmed with a throat spitting achhhhhhh... but just so you know its Jews not Arabs who speak like that and prounce that letter like that ;)
Look, whatever they told you about Islam and Modammed is true.

Don't seek anything out for yourself or employ critical thinking skills. Just accept it and move on.

Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: OTHstrong on August 13, 2012, 02:54:46 AM
Look, whatever they told you about Islam and Modammed is true.

Don't seek anything out for yourself or employ critical thinking skills. Just accept it and move on.


"Your voluminous reading has not improved your spelling"


LMFAO........Oh the irony  ;)
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Shockwave on August 13, 2012, 04:52:03 AM
"Your voluminous reading has not improved your spelling"


LMFAO........Oh the irony  ;)
Pretty sure he's making a funny.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 16, 2012, 07:13:18 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: a_ahmed on August 17, 2012, 12:51:39 AM
(http://pontilex.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Five-Mullah-Facepalm.jpg)
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 24, 2012, 07:45:12 PM
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: garebear on August 25, 2012, 10:35:52 AM
So why are you afraid of islam spreading and muslims spreading if you have this magical proof? Even if you are trying to be 'comical' you are pretty sick.

Such evil and disturbing sinister thinking. It's really ironic how some of you guys claim others of being violent somehow, yet in reality who is the one that's violent and with evil intentions? You demonize Islam and Muslims yet?... It's just sad.

And I know you are trying to say ahmed with a throat spitting achhhhhhh... but just so you know its Jews not Arabs who speak like that and prounce that letter like that ;)
Magical carpet is not magical proof, it is magical conjecture.

This is the basis of your life.

Grow up.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: a_ahmed on August 25, 2012, 11:49:58 AM
^What?

Anyways America and Israel are evil and only conjure destruction and corruption on this planet. Now back on subject:

Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: a_ahmed on August 25, 2012, 08:16:45 PM
America's racism has no bounds in each generation they get away with garbage like this then talk about being about equality, freedom and all the other opposite truths or lies.

Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: outby43 on August 25, 2012, 10:06:44 PM
America's racism has no bounds in each generation they get away with garbage like this then talk about being about equality, freedom and all the other opposite truths or lies.




Hey you fucking guy...those japs bombed us. What the fuck should we have done? 

If you really cared about Islam you would go to Pakistan, Afghanistan, Shitstan, and preach about how Islam is meant to be followed.  They would fucking stone you to death talking that peace and love bullshit.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: Pork_Chop on August 26, 2012, 05:28:33 AM
The japs were perhaps the most wicked race on planet earth during the 30's and 40's.

My granddad fought them in the jungles of Burma and they were 'dead behind the eyes' like sharks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

They're vivisection research on chinese people, they're mass murder and rape in the Fillipines were hideous.

Those "children" would be ruling our society today if not for Enola Gay flying over them and ending the war in one extreme, but wholly justified bombing.

Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: a_ahmed on August 26, 2012, 11:01:53 AM
It's true the japs were devil's advocates, hungry for power, but America is indifferent today to that of nazis or japs with their intentions and actions.

The difference is the US has an overempowering means to subvert and brainwash people to 'admire' the US and think the rest of the world is in need of America's saving them..

I've grown up with ww2 propaganda movies about hitler and what have you. 'm aware who he is, what he did, etc... but after ww2, all this is used for is to justify and subject people into thinking we are always battling hitlers

Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: garebear on August 28, 2012, 10:07:50 AM
It's true the japs were devil's advocates, hungry for power, but America is indifferent today to that of nazis or japs with their intentions and actions.

The difference is the US has an overempowering means to subvert and brainwash people to 'admire' the US and think the rest of the world is in need of America's saving them..

I've grown up with ww2 propaganda movies about hitler and what have you. 'm aware who he is, what he did, etc... but after ww2, all this is used for is to justify and subject people into thinking we are always battling hitlers


What does the Koran say about it?

Also, what does the Koran say about dinosaurs?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Japan remembers Nagasaki
Post by: bighead on August 28, 2012, 10:28:38 AM
What does the Koran say about it?

Also, what does the Koran say about dinosaurs?

Thanks.
  You are neither clever nor charming, so im guessing you must look like George Clooney to be so obnoxious.