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Title: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: bighead on August 22, 2012, 07:51:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Trj_5J02k


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: falco on August 22, 2012, 10:36:07 AM
I guess americans are the only ones who still believe it wasn't an inside job.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: a_ahmed on August 22, 2012, 11:55:44 AM
apparently even at the time it all happened international intelligence agencies were not good enough to believe, they are all 'conspiracy theorists'.

Can you believe how many people at work I've told about wtc7 and they didn't have a frickin clue... Sheeple I tell you... being spoon fed television brainwashing programming..

That last video bit is fake though just fyi


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 22, 2012, 11:57:40 AM
I guess americans are the only ones who still believe it wasn't an inside job.

Not true, many of us know there's more to the story.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: a_ahmed on August 22, 2012, 12:01:13 PM
The first thing that set me off is when the white van and israeli agents were captured... then it was hushed up. There was also a running story on foxnews about an israeli spy network potentially involved in the world trade center attacks and much more inflitrating law enforcement, security agencies, wire tapping, etc...

What the israeli agents said about the palestinians are your problem not us we are on your side and a bunch of other crap like that> AND LOL when they said on israeli television that they were there merely to 'document the event' WTF?

Then of course the bs that followed such as a 'quran being found in a van' OOOOOOOOOOOH... and PASSPORTS.. yes PASSPORTS being found in the rubble proving the 'hijackers' did this.. when you can't find human remains?!?!? A password preserved burned with a lighter?

Then also the so called 'hijackers' which started turning up alive around the world and being taken off the list...

And of course the whole muhammad atta cheeze riddled story... of a guy on crack and hookers, working for germany intelligence and other foreign intelligence and being an fbi informant to being a religious guy... two identities? Or two people? Or all a bunch of crap?...

The list goes on and on and on for me... wtc7 is but one bit


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: a_ahmed on August 22, 2012, 12:03:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7T4DhDLPrY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSEbgrmKtmA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE9crBylehs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omoyOGid7cA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OjTX2rYXzg


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 22, 2012, 12:07:45 PM


Those are just a few of the thousands of bizarre, unjustifiable events surrounding 9/11.

I cannot believe that hundreds of surveillance cameras were aimed at the Pentagon, yet they were all confiscated by the FBI and the only footage released is three frames with the actual plane projectile itself edited out.

 ::)


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: a_ahmed on August 22, 2012, 12:09:51 PM
WOW check this out

http://www.mintpress.net/fbi-documents-show-israeli-pm-worked-in-nuclear-smuggling-ring/

FBI documents show Israeli PMI worked in nuclear smuggling ring.

We got also the human organ trafficking more than once which the likes of ADL/AIPAC dubbed as 'anti-semetism' until the ASSHOLES got caught... poor palestinians being killed and having their organs taken out sold to the highest bidder.

And of course the continous smuggling of classified and confidential material relating to government and military technology from the US to israel. Many of these spies and traitors were 'pardoned' by presidents numerous times.

Who is your real enemy? Muslims? LOL... Israel... but Israel wants you to blindly fight muslims.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: a_ahmed on August 22, 2012, 12:12:30 PM
The WTC day celebrating Israelis:

http://whatreallyhappened.wikia.com/wiki/Five_Dancing_Israelis

I want to find and post the documents that were partially declassified on the arrests of these guys, it won't be declsasified until 2030-2040... where they mention that the palestinians are your enemy we are not your enemy.

Funny that guys with explosives, cameras, celebrating, etc.. get deported while a whole different story developed that led to a war in afghanistan and a war in iraq and now a perpetual war on all muslim countries... serving no one's interests but that of Israel.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: a_ahmed on August 22, 2012, 02:02:11 PM
Jewish news writer in a news article talked about assassinating a US president and gets away with it, he gave crocodile tears on a tv interview afterwards, a slap on the wrist:

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-01-21/us/us_jewish-president-threat_1_jewish-state-atlanta-jewish-times-column?_s=PM:US

You have to see what these people say and think to see that Israel is the enemy of the united states and not Muslims

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7171/6732439987_edf535d33e_z.jpg)

(http://incogman.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ADLER-OPED-HIGHLIGHT.jpg)




Makes me somteimes wonder if the zionists even had a hand in the assasination of Kennedy as he was very anti-war... and the president that came afterwards was THE most pro-israel president supplying weapons, money, and all kinds of support to israel. From that point on the whole israel is our ally crap began.

Don't forget while president Johnson turn a BLIND EYE to AMERICAN SOLDIERS being killed by Israelis. The USS Liberty!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

Trying to get America to get in on the 'action' for Israel's sake and blaming it on others. A false flag operation.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: a_ahmed on August 22, 2012, 02:06:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3y2HAYFvo


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: bighead on August 22, 2012, 03:06:11 PM
ahmed, you hijacked my thread!! >:(


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: a_ahmed on August 23, 2012, 08:40:44 AM
No homo bro

(http://poemsforkush.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/hugskisses.jpg)


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: a_ahmed on August 24, 2012, 09:15:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AzLTksDcXE


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: bighead on August 25, 2012, 07:55:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPzAakHPpk


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: a_ahmed on August 26, 2012, 12:43:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aKj6uJ5Mt4


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 27, 2012, 08:46:10 AM
Don't forget.  As soon as this happened the Bush government formed the Dpeartment of Homeland Security.  A 200,000 person organization that only took days to setup.  They couldn't fucking get fema in order for Katrina over a couple months but somehow they were able to whip up this DHS in days?  Like they weren't planning it for years before?
Then the interest rates tumbled allowing banks ( when people say banks it really means Jews) to start their raping of the economy for the next 8 years.
When Americans were obsessed with getting a bigger TV, bigger Car, bigger house with the wool pulled over their eyes, the Jews were raping the economy and fucking over everyone.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 27, 2012, 11:09:08 AM
read this.

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/EnemyWithin.html



Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: bighead on August 27, 2012, 05:10:13 PM
read this.

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/EnemyWithin.html


 Very good read, thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: a_ahmed on August 27, 2012, 05:19:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGGHPNW-CWs

Did anyone post the videos of silverstein how he had billions of dollars in insurance money and that he did this insurance deal right before the attacks.

Also his phony story of where he was where he contradicted himself and others explore what he usually does and how he lied :)


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: bighead on August 27, 2012, 06:45:21 PM
That video makes me fuckin sick! What a little lying sack a shit. Thank god for the truth movement who collected all the early data on this, back in the early 2000's. I couldn't have cared less 10 years ago but now I see how 9-11 has completely changed the world we all live in, and it was all a farce. Putting people in a frenzy of fear while amending the constitution to further strip us of any potential retaliation knowing there would come a time when EVERYONE will see what really happened. And worst, feeding lies of patriotic duty to send men and women to go and kill innocent people and in doing so risking and or losing there own lives. For the elitist greed and further control of natural resources and firm strategic placement in the middle east.



Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: Nirvana on August 27, 2012, 06:58:22 PM
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Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: bighead on August 27, 2012, 07:10:25 PM
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  That is not funny.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: Nirvana on August 27, 2012, 08:44:10 PM
  That is not funny.
offence cannot be given, only taken.

it's funny


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 28, 2012, 06:43:19 AM
It's amazing at how clean and controlled those buildings went down.  They didn't tilt or fall over or anything. Just perfectly straight down.

People forget that Bush and Cheney were questioned in a senate hearing, but they refused to do it unless they could together and then Bush used a presidential secrecy policy to lock up the testimony for ever.  Fucking creeps


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: Shockwave on August 28, 2012, 07:33:21 AM
offence cannot be given, only taken.

it's funny
I lol'd


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: bighead on August 28, 2012, 08:32:48 PM
I lol'd
  Tell me shock, your an intelligent guy here at G.B, and or anywhere else im certain. What is your take on the collapse of wtc 1,2 and 7?


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: Shockwave on August 29, 2012, 07:34:07 AM
  Tell me shock, your an intelligent guy here at G.B, and or anywhere else im certain. What is your take on the collapse of wtc 1,2 and 7?
Honestly, I don't know enough to take a side. Im not educated enough on controlled building demolitions to speculate on that, and I'm not nearly informed enough on the circumstances surrounding it to actually speak on the issue.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 29, 2012, 07:49:59 AM
Honestly, I don't know enough to take a side. Im not educated enough on controlled building demolitions to speculate on that, and I'm not nearly informed enough on the circumstances surrounding it to actually speak on the issue.

I just find the whole way the buildings collapsed so perfectly to be a bit far fetched.  Then how the authorities quickly cleaned up the mess and hid all evidence away.

People's counterpoints to this is that it was a job too big to coverup in the government. But that makes sense in how the gov outsourced this to some other outside group.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: Ropo on September 28, 2012, 10:17:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Trj_5J02k

So, who claims to be so fucking ignorant piece of shit, that he doesn't see that this video is fake? There can't be such level of stupidity in this world, it is simply too much. Footage found from old camera my ass, that footage has been around years without any fake explosions.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: OzmO on September 28, 2012, 01:07:22 PM
I just find the whole way the buildings collapsed so perfectly to be a bit far fetched.  Then how the authorities quickly cleaned up the mess and hid all evidence away.

People's counterpoints to this is that it was a job too big to coverup in the government. But that makes sense in how the gov outsourced this to some other outside group.


Were you expecting the buildings to tip over?


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: bighead on September 28, 2012, 07:04:53 PM
So, who claims to be so fucking ignorant piece of shit, that he doesn't see that this video is fake? There can't be such level of stupidity in this world, it is simply too much. Footage found from old camera my ass, that footage has been around years without any fake explosions.
Looking at your past posts it would seem you deem everyone a ''fucking ignorant piece of shit'' or ''dumb'' maybe you need to reevaluate if you want someone to respond to you Einstein.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: Ropo on September 28, 2012, 08:36:15 PM
Looking at your past posts it would seem you deem everyone a ''fucking ignorant piece of shit'' or ''dumb'' maybe you need to reevaluate if you want someone to respond to you Einstein.

Why do I get the feeling that you identify with that description 100% ? Dear child, you have to understand that you are believer of the most ridiculous conspiracy scam ever, and that point only proves that you are few cards shy from the card  deck, if you know what I mean. Please explain how those explosions appear in the clip, which hasn't have them in previous years? Is it same kind of miracle than face of Jesus appearing on the pool of dog shit, or have some one edit that clip afterwards? If you study the so called evidence which so called truth.org present to you, you find out that they are all fake. Truth.org = fake evidence? How the hell that happen?? That is possible only with help from the great bunch of fucking ignorant pieces of shit, called americans. And before you flip and start beating your keyboard, understand this: You should not blame me, I am not the person who lie to you. Blame truth.org who make you look like an ignorant piece of shit.  ;D


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: bighead on September 29, 2012, 04:47:28 AM
Why do I get the feeling that you identify with that description 100% ? Dear child, you have to understand that you are believer of the most ridiculous conspiracy scam ever, and that point only proves that you are few cards shy from the card  deck, if you know what I mean. Please explain how those explosions appear in the clip, which hasn't have them in previous years? Is it same kind of miracle than face of Jesus appearing on the pool of dog shit, or have some one edit that clip afterwards? If you study the so called evidence which so called truth.org present to you, you find out that they are all fake. Truth.org = fake evidence? How the hell that happen?? That is possible only with help from the great bunch of fucking ignorant pieces of shit, called americans. And before you flip and start beating your keyboard, understand this: You should not blame me, I am not the person who lie to you. Blame truth.org who make you look like an ignorant piece of shit.  ;D
Why do I get the feeling your 12 yo? The focus of the video was the news reporter's seemingly nostradamus like prediction of wtc7 going down before it actually did, and then the moment where she turns around to see it's still there. The truth movement involves the recounts of people who were actually there that day ie; firefighters who lost there men, police officers, who lost their men and many people who lost family members. Try not to look at your gov't as a paternal figure and the smoke will clear, of course nobody wants to hear their parent is a homicidal maniac. ;)


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: OzmO on September 29, 2012, 08:03:49 AM
Why do I get the feeling your 12 yo? The focus of the video was the news reporter's seemingly nostradamus like prediction of wtc7 going down before it actually did, and then the moment where she turns around to see it's still there. The truth movement involves the recounts of people who were actually there that day ie; firefighters who lost there men, police officers, who lost their men and many people who lost family members. Try not to look at your gov't as a paternal figure and the smoke will clear, of course nobody wants to hear their parent is a homicidal maniac. ;)

So the reporter was in on it too?  Why would a reporter need to report the WTC going down before it did?  If there was an inside job why would they need a reporter to report the WTC going down when it was going to go down anyway and every reporter would have been reporting it?

Seems very irrelevant.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: bighead on September 29, 2012, 09:42:19 AM
No, she was doing her job and taking orders from her superiors, much like the people who run our countries, The 4th branch of gov't has been an invaluable tool concerning our knowledge of whats ''going on.''-


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: OzmO on September 29, 2012, 10:10:24 AM
No, she was doing her job and taking orders from her superiors, much like the people who run our countries, The 4th branch of gov't has been an invaluable tool concerning our knowledge of whats ''going on.''-

Why would a reporter need to report the WTC going down before it did? 
If there was an inside job why would they need a reporter to report the WTC going down when it was going to go down anyway and every reporter would have been reporting it?

and...

Why would her superiors tell her to do that?  What would be the ultimate purpose?


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: bighead on September 29, 2012, 02:34:29 PM
Call it preemptive reporting, or way too early press release. Did you watch the video?


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: OzmO on September 29, 2012, 04:48:12 PM
Call it preemptive reporting, or way too early press release. Did you watch the video?

You still have answered the questions.  Are you avoiding them?

I will reword them.

What purpose does it serve in the grand scheme of an inside job, to report preemptively buildings collapsing, when one of your schemes of the inside job is to in fact bring the them down?

And...

Why would you go throu the trouble of forcing a network exec to order a reporter to say the buildings went down before they actually did go down when all along you were intending for them to go down thus risking exposure by increasing the people involved in the inside job when it doesnt serve any real purpose?


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: OzmO on September 29, 2012, 04:52:25 PM
I think it's safe to say, the reporter vid is completely irrelevant to the truther argument/case. 


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: Ropo on September 29, 2012, 11:33:52 PM
Why do I get the feeling your 12 yo? The focus of the video was the news reporter's seemingly nostradamus like prediction of wtc7 going down before it actually did, and then the moment where she turns around to see it's still there. The truth movement involves the recounts of people who were actually there that day ie; firefighters who lost there men, police officers, who lost their men and many people who lost family members. Try not to look at your gov't as a paternal figure and the smoke will clear, of course nobody wants to hear their parent is a homicidal maniac. ;)

Dear moron, have you ever heard about video editing? If they want they can put anything to the background of the reporter to fool you, and then they even tell you in the video what you should see in it. Find the original clip, it is different.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 30, 2012, 12:17:19 AM
Dear moron, have you ever heard about video editing? If they want they can put anything to the background of the reporter to fool you, and then they even tell you in the video what you should see in it. Find the original clip, it is different.
That's not edited.  That's the real BBC airing as it happened, I watched it not long after it aired.  That's the original footage buddy.  That fact is not actually disputed by anyone.  You're the first on that I've seen.  Yea, you find the original clip and show us that it's different lol....  BULLSHIT!!!  It's the same!


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: bighead on September 30, 2012, 05:01:09 AM
I think it's safe to say, the reporter vid is completely irrelevant to the truther argument/case.  
I wouldnt go so far as to say irrelevant but food for thought and I never claimed it to be a smoking gun, hence the topic being phrased as a ? and not a !. I further still wouldnt claim Lucky Larry's convenient doctors visit that morning or even his ''pull it'' comment as an AGH HA! moment, but I have a feeling something very wrong is going on.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: OzmO on September 30, 2012, 07:19:26 AM
I wouldnt go so far as to say irrelevant but food for thought and I never claimed it to be a smoking gun, hence the topic being phrased as a ? and not a !. I further still wouldnt claim Lucky Larry's convenient doctors visit that morning or even his ''pull it'' comment as an AGH HA! moment, but I have a feeling something very wrong is going on.

How is it relevant in any way in context of the questions I have been asking.  How does reporting it early serve any purpose what so ever?


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: bighead on September 30, 2012, 06:16:28 PM
it doesnt, just an example from one of the myriad of strange goings on from that day.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: OzmO on September 30, 2012, 09:33:58 PM
it doesnt, just an example from one of the myriad of strange goings on from that day.

If one is interested in the truth, then why bring it up in the first place?

Is it just rhetoric designed to fuel doubt?  If so, then it's intellectually dishonest.

Strange things happen everyday.  Reporters gaffe/mis report all the time.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: bighead on October 02, 2012, 05:14:41 AM
Is Michael Moore intellectually dishonest? or former gov. of Minnesota Jesse Ventura, who just used the same video/rhetoric as an example of 9-11 discrepencies last week on cnn's Pierce Morgan?


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: OzmO on October 02, 2012, 08:47:24 PM
Is Michael Moore intellectually dishonest? or former gov. of Minnesota Jesse Ventura, who just used the same video/rhetoric as an example of 9-11 discrepencies last week on cnn's Pierce Morgan?

Yes, if he's using it as part of an argument that 911 was an inside job considering that there is no purpose to it and it only sways the less intelligent.


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: Ropo on October 02, 2012, 09:54:08 PM
That's not edited.  That's the real BBC airing as it happened, I watched it not long after it aired.  That's the original footage buddy.  That fact is not actually disputed by anyone.  You're the first on that I've seen.  Yea, you find the original clip and show us that it's different lol....  BULLSHIT!!!  It's the same!

There is also bigger picture which also shot down this video. All claims from truth.org about the demolition of the WTC7 are based on lie, that WTC7 collapse went down with enormous speed. Lie is based on the video, which shows only little part of the collapse. If you watch the video where is also the collapse of the penthouse section, you see A. that collapse last altogether much longer than they claim, and B. that facade and the front side of the building went down 10 seconds before the backside. So, if all and everything proves that WTC7 went down because the WTC1 collapse against it and break down the building, do this BBC-nonsense mean anything in this matter? And please tell me why they put together that BBC-clip and the clip with fake explosions? Are they seeking the truth by false evidence, or are they lying to you?


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: crownshep on October 05, 2012, 04:18:43 AM
Only a slight reference to WTC 7 in this docu,but it investigates the reasons why people think 911 was an inside job.This was on a tv channel here in the uK yesterday,and the main things that interested me were the gulf of tonkin references and the northwoods operation.Just goes to show you that your own government has no qualms about killing its own citizens.Plus the interviews with the guys who worked for halliburton who said that when a truck blew a tyre,instead of changing the tyre they were told to set fire to the truck and just order a brand new truck.After all,it was the american taxpayer who was paying for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1aQGa2HwSk


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: OzmO on October 05, 2012, 07:21:04 AM
Only a slight reference to WTC 7 in this docu,but it investigates the reasons why people think 911 was an inside job.This was on a tv channel here in the uK yesterday,and the main things that interested me were the gulf of tonkin references and the northwoods operation.Just goes to show you that your own government has no qualms about killing its own citizens.Plus the interviews with the guys who worked for halliburton who said that when a truck blew a tyre,instead of changing the tyre they were told to set fire to the truck and just order a brand new truck.After all,it was the american taxpayer who was paying for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1aQGa2HwSk

A proposed course of action not at all related to 911 (Northwoods), and or another incident not at all related to 911 (Tonkin) and or hearsay not at all related to 911 (Haliburton) does not prove in anyway 911 was an inside job.  

For example:  If Manchester United was accused of dirty play in the 90's but it was never proven or carried out, it doesn't prove in anyway Manchester United is a dirty playing team today.

People fall for incorrect association all the time.  TV shows do it well.

What would prove 911 was an inside job is actual evidence not speculative argument.  


Title: Re: WTC 7, controlled demolition?
Post by: crownshep on October 05, 2012, 09:59:16 AM
The docu is more about when someone says "our government USA/UK would never do that to its own people",but history shows its been done before.