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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: PeakContraction on August 22, 2012, 11:05:46 AM
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When choosing a fitness industry professional to guide your fitness goals it is important to allocate someone with the proper level of education to truly be deemed a "Certified Personal Trainer." Unfortunately, the fitness industry lacks quality control (some may argue due to the absence of one sole governing body) and there are often con-men who lack formal college (let alone post graduate) educations who make a living off tricking unsuspecting and gullible people into handing over their hard-earned money for dangerous, ill-conceived and baseless workout programs ("The Coach" from this very board is a prime example of this. He advertises his services as having attended a college he dropped out of.)
For this reason, I strongly suggest avoiding any trainers that lack the Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist certification. This is because, to obtain the CSCS, one must already hold a Bachelor's degree. While I do not feel a simple Bachelor's degree in any general area of study is enough to qualify one as a true "Certified Personal Trainer," it at least eliminates the extremely unqualified candidates. Ideally, your personal trainer of choice should hold a Bachelor's and post graduate degree in Exercise Science as well as holding two to three nationally accredited certifications.
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"Personal trainers" oh brother
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Degrees and Certificates to tell people not to eat potato chips and donuts ??? ???
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When choosing a fitness industry professional to guide your fitness goals it is important to allocate someone with the proper level of education to truly be deemed a "Certified Personal Trainer." Unfortunately, the fitness industry lacks quality control (some may argue due to the absence of one sole governing body) and there are often con-men who lack formal college (let alone post graduate) educations who make a living off tricking unsuspecting and gullible people into handing over their hard-earned money for dangerous, ill-conceived and baseless workout programs ("The Coach" from this very board is a prime example of this. He advertises his services as having attended a college he dropped out of.)
For this reason, I strongly suggest avoiding any trainers that lack the Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist certification. This is because, to obtain the CSCS, one must already hold a Bachelor's degree. While I do not feel a simple Bachelor's degree in any general area of study is enough to qualify one as a true "Certified Personal Trainer," it at least eliminates the extremely unqualified candidates. Ideally, your personal trainer of choice should hold a Bachelor's and post graduate degree in Exercise Science as well as holding two to three nationally accredited certifications.
How cute, a gimmick just for me. This should be good. hahaha
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I was sick of this dickead after his initial post.......hope he finds a high building to jump off in the near future........like now!
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I strongly suggest avoiding any trainers that lack the Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist certification
So is that the only certificate you need, or are there dozens of Certified Trainer Certificates? Why this one only? Is this for college trainers, basketball trainers, personal trainers...
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So ACSM is no good?
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HugeRipped
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What about Vince Goodrum CSN (Certified Sports Nutritionist), MFT (Master Fitness Trainer)?
He doesn't have those initials, but I have a feeling he is just as skilled as the trainers you speak of.
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Your on the wrong board to drum up business, do you really think any one here hires a trainer??? Lol
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Your on the wrong board to drum up business, do you really think any one here hires a trainer??? Lol
I hope you're not insinuating this clown is a "trainer" are you??
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He's an unemployed lactation consultant....that's kind of a trainer...
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Degrees and Certificates to tell people not to eat potato chips and donuts ??? ???
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I already exposed you as a fitness industry scam artist and sent you running away with your proverbial tail between your legs, Joe. Do we really need to go through the entire discussion (again) regarding the issue of using a college you dropped out of as an academic credential to garner business?
I suggest you go back to counting reps at the seated shoulder press at L.A. fitness - if you are even qualified to do that - before a major lawsuit comes your way.
Are you really that fucking stupid to think even if I finished my degree 28 years ago it would have any impact today? really? are you THAT fucking stupid?? The ONLY reason why I would get a CSCS (which I passed) would be a team S&C coach at the College or Pro level even then the CSCS is starting to diminish in credibility. You really need to do some research.
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Are you really that fucking stupid to think even if I finished my degree 28 years ago it would have any impact today? really? are you THAT fucking stupid?? The ONLY reason why I would get a CSCS (which I passed) would be a team S&C coach at the College or Pro level even then the CSCS is starting to diminish in credibility. You really need to do some research.
How predictable that a man (and I use the term loosely, your diminutive stature and anabolic steroid abuse induced hypogonadism is indicative of the contrary) whose highest level of education is the public high school system resorts to name calling and expletives when confronted with a superior.
Regardless of passage of time, the bottom line remains: you publicly advertise your qualification to do a job with false credentials.
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How predictable that a man (and I use the term loosely, your diminutive stature and anabolic steroid abuse induced hypogonadism is indicative of the contrary) whose highest level of education is the public high school system resorts to name calling and expletives when confronted with a superior.
Regardless of passage of time, the bottom line remains: you publicly advertise your qualification to do a job with false credentials.
I love playing along with this idiot because i know certain people that don't post but lurk which is why I love talking training on here. BTW, way to answer the question, avoid it like liberals avoid the issues, haha. ANYWAY.....
1. How many college recruits did you have this year?
2. How many first round, first pick MLB players are you training for the 2013 draft (since he was a freshman) again?
3. How many of your athletes are in the NFL?
Waiting. Hahaha
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I love playing along with this idiot because i know certain people that don't post but lurk which is why I love talking training on here. BTW, way to answer the question, avoid it like liberals avoid the issues, haha. ANYWAY.....
1. How many college recruits did you have this year?
2. How many first round, first pick MLB players are you training for the 2013 draft (since he was a freshman) again?
3. How many of your athletes are in the NFL?
Waiting. Hahaha
I am not crass enough to give specific details about my clients. Most high-end clientele expect and appreciate a level of privacy when involved in a very intensive and holistic training program. Suffice to say, given my two post graduate degrees in fitness and nutrition related fields, my extensive list of prestigious certifications - only the top 1 percent of the population has the opportunity to utilize my services.
The difference between you and I, Joe, is that when a client comes in for an initial consultation, he or she will enter my office and see 2 Masters degrees and 3 prestigious certifications (two of which require college educations to even obtain) framed and hanging on the wall behind my desk, I will be wearing a suit and tie and the client can rest assured that he or she is about to receive the very best personal training that money can buy. When a client enters your gym (do you even have an office?) he or she is confronted with a "man" in tattered gym clothes trying to hock online certification based training under the guise of false credentials.
Besides - if you really want to discuss client specifics - and since you seem crass enough to disclose personal information about your clientele; are your MMA clients aware that most of the pro MMA fighters that have worked with you lost a majority of their bouts while you handled their training? Are your clients aware that the man they are handing their credit card over to earned his education with online tests? Do you inform them that you were not intelligent enough to handle a basic undergraduate program before collecting their cash?
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The difference between you and I, Joe, is that when a client comes in for an initial consultation, he or she will enter my office and see 2 Masters degrees and 3 prestigious certifications (two of which require college educations to even obtain) framed and hanging on the wall behind my desk, I will be wearing a suit and tie and the client can rest assured that he or she is about to receive the very best personal training that money can buy.
Which means jack shit in terms of PT. I've seen guys at small start up warehouse gyms who are 10x the trainers at places like Equinox and the like.
Ooooh a suit and tie..... ::)
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I am not crass enough to give specific details about my clients. Most high-end clientele expect and appreciate a level of privacy when involved in a very intensive and holistic training program. Suffice to say, given my two post graduate degrees in fitness and nutrition related fields, my extensive list of prestigious certifications - only the top 1 percent of the population has the opportunity to utilize my services.
The difference between you and I, Joe, is that when a client comes in for an initial consultation, he or she will enter my office and see 2 Masters degrees and 3 prestigious certifications (two of which require college educations to even obtain) framed and hanging on the wall behind my desk, I will be wearing a suit and tie and the client can rest assured that he or she is about to receive the very best personal training that money can buy. When a client enters your gym (do you even have an office?) he or she is confronted with a "man" in tattered gym clothes trying to hock online certification based training under the guise of false credentials.
Besides - if you really want to discuss client specifics - and since you seem crass enough to disclose personal information about your clientele; are your MMA clients aware that most of the pro MMA fighters that have worked with you lost a majority of their bouts while you handled their training? Are your clients aware that the man they are handing their credit card over to earned his education with online tests? Do you inform them that you were not intelligent enough to handle a basic undergraduate program before collecting their cash?
Haha, I didn't mention any names did it? Btw, since you're so good I suppose you have a website, what was it again?
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Haha, I didn't mention any names did it? Btw, since you're so good I suppose you have a website, what was it again?
It is of no concern to you as we are not hiring. However, when we have an opening in the janitorial staff I will be sure to contact you.
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If you're training people to sell insurance...a suit and tie is agood idea. Training athletes...not so much.
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When choosing a fitness industry professional to guide your fitness goals it is important to allocate someone with the proper level of education to truly be deemed a "Certified Personal Trainer." Unfortunately, the fitness industry lacks quality control (some may argue due to the absence of one sole governing body) and there are often con-men who lack formal college (let alone post graduate) educations who make a living off tricking unsuspecting and gullible people into handing over their hard-earned money for dangerous, ill-conceived and baseless workout programs ("The Coach" from this very board is a prime example of this. He advertises his services as having attended a college he dropped out of.)
For this reason, I strongly suggest avoiding any trainers that lack the Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist certification. This is because, to obtain the CSCS, one must already hold a Bachelor's degree. While I do not feel a simple Bachelor's degree in any general area of study is enough to qualify one as a true "Certified Personal Trainer," it at least eliminates the extremely unqualified candidates. Ideally, your personal trainer of choice should hold a Bachelor's and post graduate degree in Exercise Science as well as holding two to three nationally accredited certifications.
Many things wrong with this post... First off, I have my degree in exercise science and am ACSM certified, and even I don't agree with this. One should know the difference in certification exams, certainly a NASM or ACSM certified trainer is more knowledgeable than an "easy certification" like ACE, etc. These exams require knowledge on ex. phys, anatomy and physiology, nutrition, etc. especially ACSM. However as far as a personal trainer goes, these bachelor required exams [NASM CSCS and ACSM CEP] are for people working with special demographics, ie high level elite athletes (CSCS) or moderate to severely compromised/diseased populations (CEP). They are of almost no use to personal trainers helping able-bodied people lose weight and increase fitness. That's like saying you need a BA in Chemistry to bake a cake.
A well rounded personal trainer with the body to prove it is usually all people need. The entire personal training system is essentially more therapy and lifestyle coaching than actual training. 2 hours with a personal trainer out of 168 hour week is essentially irrelevant as far as calorie burning goes, but what you can learn in the 2 hours is more significant. So understanding the physiological actions of actin-myosin proteins in the muscle and changes to muscle fiber types in a periodization seasoned protocol is fucking pointless.
And 2-3 certifications? That's pointless as fuck as well, and proves you know nothing about the field you're speaking of. 2-3 certifications just means 2-3 more fees you pay, nothing else.
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Many things wrong with this post... First off, I have my degree in exercise science and am ACSM certified, and even I don't agree with this. One should know the difference in certification exams, certainly a NASM or ACSM certified trainer is more knowledgeable than an "easy certification" like ACE, etc. These exams require knowledge on ex. phys, anatomy and physiology, nutrition, etc. especially ACSM. However as far as a personal trainer goes, these bachelor required exams [NASM CSCS and ACSM CEP] are for people working with special demographics, ie high level elite athletes (CSCS) or moderate to severely compromised/diseased populations (CEP). They are almost no use to personal trainers helping able-bodied people lose weight and increase fitness. That's like saying you need a BA in Chemistry to bake a cake.
A well rounded personal trainer with the body to prove it is usually all people need. The entire personal training system is essentially more therapy and lifestyle coaching than actual training. 2 hours with a personal trainer out of 168 hour week is essentially irrelevant as far as calorie burning goes, but what you can learn in the 2 hours is more significant. So understanding the physiological actions of actin-myosin proteins in the muscle and changes to muscle fiber types in a periodization seasoned protocol is fucking pointless.
And 2-3 certifications? That's pointless as fuck as well, and proves you know nothing about what you're speaking of. 2-3 certifications just means 2-3 more fees you pay, nothing else.
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Many things wrong with this post... First off, I have my degree in exercise science and am ACSM certified, and even I don't agree with this. One should know the difference in certification exams, certainly a NASM or ACSM certified trainer is more knowledgeable than an "easy certification" like ACE, etc. These exams require knowledge on ex. phys, anatomy and physiology, nutrition, etc. especially ACSM. However as far as a personal trainer goes, these bachelor required exams [NASM CSCS and ACSM CEP] are for people working with special demographics, ie high level elite athletes (CSCS) or moderate to severely compromised/diseased populations (CEP). They are almost no use to personal trainers helping able-bodied people lose weight and increase fitness. That's like saying you need a BA in Chemistry to bake a cake.
A well rounded personal trainer with the body to prove it is usually all people need. The entire personal training system is essentially more therapy and lifestyle coaching than actual training. 2 hours with a personal trainer out of 168 hour week is essentially irrelevant as far as calorie burning goes, but what you can learn in the 2 hours is more significant. So understanding the physiological actions of actin-myosin proteins in the muscle and changes to muscle fiber types in a periodization seasoned protocol is fucking pointless.
And 2-3 certifications? That's pointless as fuck as well, and proves you know nothing about the field you're speaking of. 2-3 certifications just means 2-3 more fees you pay, nothing else.
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I appreciate you taking the time to read through the thread and attempting to formulate a cogent retort so I apologize in advance for the brevity of my response.
It is obvious you work in a "big box" commercial gym and count reps in a machine circuit as your scope is blatantly limited to such an environment. I only work with the elite, as I stated earlier - your experience in this industry is extremely different and thus irrelevant.
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my PE teacher in high school had a degree too, he used it every day to count the basketballs, vollyballs, or soccer balls he dragged out every day from his office in that fish net Dufflebag
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I appreciate you taking the time to read through the read and attempting to formulate a cogent retort so I apologize in advance for the brevity of my response.
It is obvious you work in a "big box" commercial gym and count reps in a machine circuit as your scope is blatantly limited to such an environment. I only work with the elite, as I stated earlier - your experience in this industry is extremely different and thus irrelevant.
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I appreciate you taking the time to read through the thread and attempting to formulate a cogent retort so I apologize in advance for the brevity of my response.
It is obvious you work in a "big box" commercial gym and count reps in a machine circuit as your scope is blatantly limited to such an environment. I only work with the elite, as I stated earlier - your experience in this industry is extremely different and thus irrelevant.
lol
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A good thread for a Wednesday.
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I train in a suit and tie and sometimes a cape.
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The difference between you and I, Joe, is that when a client comes in for an initial consultation, he or she will enter my office and see 2 Masters degrees and 3 prestigious certifications (two of which require college educations to even obtain) framed and hanging on the wall behind my desk, I will be wearing a suit and tie and the client can rest assured that he or she is about to receive the very best personal training that money can buy. When a client enters your gym (do you even have an office?) he or she is confronted with a "man" in tattered gym clothes trying to hock online certification based training under the guise of false credentials.
"The difference between you and I,..."???? You are not repping the college-educated very well with that one, mang.
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i lift 45 degrees all day at the gym
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I appreciate you taking the time to read through the thread and attempting to formulate a cogent retort so I apologize in advance for the brevity of my response.
It is obvious you work in a "big box" commercial gym and count reps in a machine circuit as your scope is blatantly limited to such an environment. I only work with the elite, as I stated earlier - your experience in this industry is extremely different and thus irrelevant.
Got it, you only work with the ELITE. No wonder you came trolling on Getbig for clients :D.
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Oh Great...not this shithead again..... ::)
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Preliminary writing forensics performed on PeakContraction and HugeRipped is sending out a possible Avesher gimmick alert. Getbig Security Advisory Systems is curently at Code Yellow. Recommendation: hit back hard with rolly-eyed emoticon and commence deletion of all personal photograph uploads on the world wide webz.
;D Shit reminded me of the Sherminator from American Pie.
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Although a suit and tie along with litter on the wall will impress a certain demographic....those with money and wish to justify spending the money and to brag to their friends....the proof is in the results....if you dont have the proper "suit" (ie body of a high level of fitness)....the dressing is a waste. Granted, the 1% you speak of may have more money to spend on higher fees....they are also less likely to stick with the trainer once they see through you. Results and reputation = longevity and profit in this business.
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i see Roland Kickinger at the burbank athletic club gym everyday and he wears shorts, polo shirt and sneakers.,,,, Has magazine covers he appeared in framed all over the wall , there is always a a line of people waiting to signup for a training session
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I am not crass enough to give specific details about my clients. Most high-end clientele expect and appreciate a level of privacy when involved in a very intensive and holistic training program. Suffice to say, given my two post graduate degrees in fitness and nutrition related fields, my extensive list of prestigious certifications - only the top 1 percent of the population has the opportunity to utilize my services.
The difference between you and I, Joe, is that when a client comes in for an initial consultation, he or she will enter my office and see 2 Masters degrees and 3 prestigious certifications (two of which require college educations to even obtain) framed and hanging on the wall behind my desk, I will be wearing a suit and tie and the client can rest assured that he or she is about to receive the very best personal training that money can buy. When a client enters your gym (do you even have an office?) he or she is confronted with a "man" in tattered gym clothes trying to hock online certification based training under the guise of false credentials.
Besides - if you really want to discuss client specifics - and since you seem crass enough to disclose personal information about your clientele; are your MMA clients aware that most of the pro MMA fighters that have worked with you lost a majority of their bouts while you handled their training? Are your clients aware that the man they are handing their credit card over to earned his education with online tests? Do you inform them that you were not intelligent enough to handle a basic undergraduate program before collecting their cash?
I wouldnt hire a trainer in a suit and a tie, thats like hiring a lawyer in a denim shirt and jeans
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I'm ACSM certified for another year or so... completely and utterly worthless certification, as far as ensuring it's holder is a capable "personal trainer." And it's the most respected of the lot, hahaha oh brother. I guess 2 hours and some random multiple choice questions across such pertinent topics as "whether the soleus plantarflexes, or dorsiflexes???" can distinguish the charlatans from the fat-burning, muscle-building gurus. ::)
I once went in for an interview at "VisionQuest fitness," some piece of shit box gym that's gaining traction around these parts. At the end of the interview, the flabby middle-aged woman asked me, "so, why did you think it appropriate to wear jeans and a sweatshirt to this interview?"
LOLOL ::) ::) ::)
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I'm CSCS. I'm not a CPT. I didn't plan on being a personal trainer. I planned on being a strength coach which the cscs was created for. It allows me to personal train where the CPT wouldn't help my credentials for applying for a college. That being said there are good trainers that never finished high school and bad ones that have even more school and certifications than I do. I wouldn't base my decision solely on one aspect but I've never been able to afford a trainer anyway.
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When choosing a fitness industry professional to guide your fitness goals it is important to allocate someone with the proper level of education to truly be deemed a "Certified Personal Trainer." Unfortunately, the fitness industry lacks quality control (some may argue due to the absence of one sole governing body) and there are often con-men who lack formal college (let alone post graduate) educations who make a living off tricking unsuspecting and gullible people into handing over their hard-earned money for dangerous, ill-conceived and baseless workout programs ("The Coach" from this very board is a prime example of this. He advertises his services as having attended a college he dropped out of.)
For this reason, I strongly suggest avoiding any trainers that lack the Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist certification. This is because, to obtain the CSCS, one must already hold a Bachelor's degree. While I do not feel a simple Bachelor's degree in any general area of study is enough to qualify one as a true "Certified Personal Trainer," it at least eliminates the extremely unqualified candidates. Ideally, your personal trainer of choice should hold a Bachelor's and post graduate degree in Exercise Science as well as holding two to three nationally accredited certifications.
Very nice Peak, but does anyone really consider Derek "COSA NOSTROMO" Anthony an apocolyptic fighter or is his roman warrior mistique just raising his stock in the eyes of superior opponents and upper level management.
i'm not referring to whether you the getbig-poster buys into it offcourse, it's more in terms of his opponents and by upper level management i don't refer to Ron Avidan, Coach or even any high level promoters, the sponsorships are what drive these fighters to sweat in those black bags they always wear in the sauna, no chance can Advilan make someone do that, we as human beings are driven by the desire for wealth, social acceptance, and once we hit our mid 30s our legacy (i'm not quite sure of Wes' age).
To me personally the latter would be meaningless as i do not buy into the afterlife aspect so who cares what people think after i'm gone but someone religious like Rehaluk would for sure think otherwise which is why he trains so hard and i can't imaging anyone arguing the success of his labor, although i don't think Anthony Springer is anywhere near in the same boat.
but lets stay on topic, what makes Joey Swoll the threat that he is even though his skill set may be lightyears behind him
just to give you guys a quick example of what he has accomplished via his mystique when compared to what he has done in the gay4pay-scene at least on the average of his occasions. makes it almost sad to see what the getbig-hype machine is able to do to some but not to others who are perhaps more deserving due to their determination and work ethic and most importantly SKILL SET
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When choosing a fitness industry professional to guide your fitness goals it is important to allocate someone with the proper level of education to truly be deemed a "Certified Personal Trainer." Unfortunately, the fitness industry lacks quality control (some may argue due to the absence of one sole governing body) and there are often con-men who lack formal college (let alone post graduate) educations who make a living off tricking unsuspecting and gullible people into handing over their hard-earned money for dangerous, ill-conceived and baseless workout programs ("The Coach" from this very board is a prime example of this. He advertises his services as having attended a college he dropped out of.)
For this reason, I strongly suggest avoiding any trainers that lack the Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist certification. This is because, to obtain the CSCS, one must already hold a Bachelor's degree. While I do not feel a simple Bachelor's degree in any general area of study is enough to qualify one as a true "Certified Personal Trainer," it at least eliminates the extremely unqualified candidates. Ideally, your personal trainer of choice should hold a Bachelor's and post graduate degree in Exercise Science as well as holding two to three nationally accredited certifications.
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I was sick of this dickead after his initial post.......hope he finds a high building to jump off in the near future........like now!
Do you think its Gary Strydom?
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I hope Ron pulls the plug on this idiot ASAP................yet another terrible gimmick. :(
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I the NEW WORLD when there's only 500 million people on the planet, education and regulations to do almost anything are going to be the norm.
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It is of no concern to you as we are not hiring. However, when we have an opening in the janitorial staff I will be sure to contact you.
You mean you don't need anyone to come train your staff of 'trainers"? haha
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Do you think its Gary Strydom?
If it is, it really is all drugs..LOL
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The journal of the association that oversees CSCS testing and licensing is one of the least respected journals in my field.
Personally I think most certifications for personal training are a big scam and largely unnecessary.
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The journal of the association that oversees CSCS testing and licensing is one of the least respected journals in my field.
Personally I think most certifications for personal training are a big scam.
NSCA?
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Thanks for the pointers, now fuck off
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NSCA?
The Journal of Strength & Conditioning Research.
It's not "bad" in an absolute sense but most of the research in it is poorly controlled and low-impact.
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I hope Ron pulls the plug on this idiot ASAP................yet another terrible gimmick. :(
Fuckin "A"......hope he gets rid of that Bike Nut prick too. Annoying bastards..... ;D
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The Journal of Strength & Conditioning Research.
It's not "bad" in an absolute sense but most of the research in it is poorly controlled and low-impact.
I'm a member and I agree. I just pick and choose what studies to read. The professors at Cal State Fullerton put some great ones. What you said was one of the biggest beefs that Mike Boyle had with the NSCA so much that the NSCA stopped publishing his works and deemed his past writings will not be used for CEU credits. Quite of few reputable S&C coaches have stopped renewing their CSCS because of this. Most of the ones in private practice don't even bother renewing anyway.
I have the NASM PES (NSCA's CSCS equivelant) and their actually gaining more credibility.
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HugeRipped was an awesome gimmick... he actually had some good pointers. Whoever was behind that account actually knew a thing or two. Despite throwing in some trolling in those posts ;D
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A personal training certificate is a joke. I'm tired of these kids with one week of computer courses or one week at their community college coming off like they know anything about training. How many articles in magazines have you seen having initials after their name stating their personal training credentials? Is there no shame?
When I took anatomy and physiology in college it was a 8 credit course in two semesters with a lab for each. Now its covered in a 20 minute block during a one week personal trainer certificate? Many of the personal trainer course owners don't have any real credentials.
Gyms today require a personal trainer certificate so if someone sues they can put some of the liability onto the insurance of the personal trainer course their trainer used.
I was reading a personal trainer handbook and it was so convoluted in its approach so it would confound a judge, jury and attorneys in a law suit. They devoted pages to how to calibrate a treadmill. Unless you are designing a treadmill and are a engineer for treadmill company this has no value. If your treadmill is off are you taking apart the treadmill and fixing the on board computer? Another book had pictures of the authors who had degrees in exercise physiology in the back of the book. All were fat and out of shape.
My wife trains a commercial gym that has personal trainers all over it. It seems their job is to drop really impressive scientific buzz words while counting reps and flirting. Most are under thirty. The facts are it's pretty hard to be out of shape under 30 unless you work really hard at it. Let me see how they look in their 50's without the drug assist then I'll listen to what they have to say.
Having a BS or BA degree in any major then getting a week certificate doesn't impress me.
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most pt are either immature untrained kids with a useless diploma who didnt know what else to do so ended pt in a gym, or narcisstic steroids users who enjoy being bigger than their naive clients and bullshit them to keep milking them off their money as long as possible.
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Bragging about being educated in Exercise Science is so sad. It's right up there with Sociology, Philosophy, English Lit, & Parks & Rec. Sure, you may have completed the program, but so could 95% of the population.
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CSCS certification salesman gimmick of peace ::)
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CSCS is no joke
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Personal trainer in a suit and tie ???
WOW. ???
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I'm a member and I agree. I just pick and choose what studies to read. The professors at Cal State Fullerton put some great ones. What you said was one of the biggest beefs that Mike Boyle had with the NSCA so much that the NSCA stopped publishing his works and deemed his past writings will not be used for CEU credits. Quite of few reputable S&C coaches have stopped renewing their CSCS because of this. Most of the ones in private practice don't even bother renewing anyway.
I have the NASM PES (NSCA's CSCS equivelant) and their actually gaining more credibility.
The PES is open book and not proctored. It was one of the easiest tests in existence. The CSCS difficulty of questions was far more challenging.
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The PES is open book and not proctored. It was one of the easiest tests in existence. The CSCS difficulty of questions was far more challenging.
Thanks for the clarification "Testicles". ::)
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The PES is open book and not proctored. It was one of the easiest tests in existence. The CSCS difficulty of questions was far more challenging.
Thanks, I passed the cscs as well. But like I said. The pes is starting to become more credible than the cscs
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Hey man, just want to let you know we're behind you all the way. You're telling it like it is, whether it's pec workouts or so-called "personal trainers". We know there are naysayers who will attack you and try to stop your posts. Fuck 'em. As long as you're out here slinging the truth I'm right there with you man.
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How many FUCKING gimmicks do you have loser?