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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: RS on August 25, 2012, 04:57:21 AM
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Hi,
I just started doing my own TRT like 1 week ago (3 shots 175 mg Test E and 150 Deca each shot -day 1, 4 and 7) and I got a call from my endo who wanted me to come in to review test results. Now the reason I started my own was i didn't think I was going to be hearing back from this Dr and I needed to start with the Deca for joint lube assistance. I did 3 shots of my own UGL compounds on Thursday, Sunday and the next Thursday (yesterday). I go to her office today after not hearing from her for a month after my blood test - I assumed I tested too high for TRT. I was wrong. She put me on 200 mg Test Cyp 1 x every 14 days - she gave me the 1st shot today. She wants me back in in 7 days for blood work to see where my levels are 1 week after the test cyp shot (she does NOT know about my own program 3 shots of test / deca).
What is my best bet to test as low as possible in a week? I know i will stop my own UGL test but I'm thinking I should continue my deca - maybe even up it to 2 cc this week since that shuts you down - i just don't know if that will make my test look higher instead of lower for the test? I also have any of the following I can use to lower my test / minimize the 3 shots I gave myself - that's what I'm asking - is there anything I can do to minimize the positive effect on my own Test E and Deca shots on the outcome of this test I'm going in for in a week? She wants to measure my levels 1 week after the shot to see where I am to adjust up or down - I want MORE of the pharm grade stuff!
I have deca/ test prop/ clomid /adex /novolex/ HCG. I'm wondering what i can do to get my artificial levels down in time for the test next week - can I use any of these. I Only did the 3 shots spread out over a week - I couldn't imagine that would raise my level much if @ all for the test in 7 days.
Would my best bet be to put off the test for a couple weeks (22 days after my last UGL Test E shot )and stop the Test E and continue with the Deca
Let me know - I really want to be on weekly shots - more RX grade test.
From the info I have found out there I'm reading that Deca is a different compound and will NOT increase my Test levels in a blood test. The big thing is waiting till the test e clears my system so all there is to measure is the test Cyp (200 mg) shot she has perscribed. I'd like to just cruize on thru without stopping the deca.
Thx for your input.
RS
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Hi,
I just started doing my own TRT like 1 week ago (3 shots 175 mg Test E and 150 Deca each shot -day 1, 4 and 7) and I got a call from my endo who wanted me to come in to review test results. Now the reason I started my own was i didn't think I was going to be hearing back from this Dr and I needed to start with the Deca for joint lube assistance. I did 3 shots of my own UGL compounds on Thursday, Sunday and the next Thursday (yesterday). I go to her office today after not hearing from her for a month after my blood test - I assumed I tested too high for TRT. I was wrong. She put me on 200 mg Test Cyp 1 x every 14 days - she gave me the 1st shot today. She wants me back in in 7 days for blood work to see where my levels are 1 week after the test cyp shot (she does NOT know about my own program 3 shots of test / deca).
What is my best bet to test as low as possible in a week? I know i will stop my own UGL test but I'm thinking I should continue my deca - maybe even up it to 2 cc this week since that shuts you down - i just don't know if that will make my test look higher instead of lower for the test? I also have any of the following I can use to lower my test / minimize the 3 shots I gave myself - that's what I'm asking - is there anything I can do to minimize the positive effect on my own Test E and Deca shots on the outcome of this test I'm going in for in a week? She wants to measure my levels 1 week after the shot to see where I am to adjust up or down - I want MORE of the pharm grade stuff!
I have deca/ test prop/ clomid /adex /novolex/ HCG. I'm wondering what i can do to get my artificial levels down in time for the test next week - can I use any of these. I Only did the 3 shots spread out over a week - I couldn't imagine that would raise my level much if @ all for the test in 7 days.
Would my best bet be to put off the test for a couple weeks (22 days after my last UGL Test E shot )and stop the Test E and continue with the Deca
Let me know - I really want to be on weekly shots - more RX grade test.
From the info I have found out there I'm reading that Deca is a different compound and will NOT increase my Test levels in a blood test. The big thing is waiting till the test e clears my system so all there is to measure is the test Cyp (200 mg) shot she has perscribed. I'd like to just cruize on thru without stopping the deca.
Thx for your input.
RS
In my opinion,
take the bottle of test with you and ask her to go over the HIPAA act with you ( basically she cant disclose any information about you to anyone). Once she goes over that, show her the bottle of your UGL, and tell her the truth, that it took her one month to get back at you, and even she agreed that you needed testosterone, but she was a bit too late. Say the effect of low T were ruining your life and you were miserable blah blah blah, and you decided to start your own injections prior to her giving you TRT.
so ask her if its possible that she can test you after the 2nd dose she gives you.
in that time, all teh test and deca you shot should be out of your system, and all you have in you will be the TRT
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Thx man! that is a very good idea.
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Thx man! that is a very good idea.
no problem, keep us updated.. also if she ever writes the prescription for you and you pick up the test yourself, instead of injecting 200mg every 14days, do 100mg every week
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So how badly (too much test in my system) will my 3 shots of test E affect the test the dr wants me to take 8 days after the 200 mg test cyp shot that she gave me? Would it put my numbers way out there or would it just raise my level like 50 points or something minor like that?
I know some of you guys have experience with this - let me know what you think. I'm entertaining the thought of going and taking the blood test on friday (1 week after the dr's shot) hoping it doesn't come in too high. And if it does I can tell her about the program that I started a little early.
The other option I have is wait 2 more weeks till 1 week post 2nd test cyp perscription shot - which would be 22 days after my last UGL test E shots.
Thx, RS
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So how badly (too much test in my system) will my 3 shots of test E affect the test the dr wants me to take 8 days after the 200 mg test cyp shot that she gave me? Would it put my numbers way out there or would it just raise my level like 50 points or something minor like that?
I know some of you guys have experience with this - let me know what you think. I'm entertaining the thought of going and taking the blood test on friday (1 week after the dr's shot) hoping it doesn't come in too high. And if it does I can tell her about the program that I started a little early.
The other option I have is wait 2 more weeks till 1 week post 2nd test cyp perscription shot - which would be 22 days after my last UGL test E shots.
Thx, RS
Do the bolded option.
I think if you get your blood test done on the 8th day, your test levels will be between 1000-1400 .
from my experience and people o i know, 175mg test e weekly will put you around 1300-1500 range, but it all depends on the UGL.
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Do the bolded option.
I think if you get your blood test done on the 8th day, your test levels will be between 1000-1400 .
from my experience and people o i know, 175mg test e weekly will put you around 1300-1500 range, but it all depends on the UGL.
Mario,
So would you say I should do the 2nd cyp shot or should I just skip it? I'm scheduled to take that shot 14days after the 1st cyp shot - 7 days before the blood test if I ship the 1st apt. That may drive it too low - maybe I should do 1/2 cc / 100 mg instead of the whole 200. I wouldn't want the test to come back too low.
Thx man. RS
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Do 100mg or 1/2CC. If you totally skip it, teh doc will know. take half the dose, your test levels will be levated enough for teh doc to know you took it, but it wouldnt be too elevated to cause concern
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Do 100mg or 1/2CC. If you totally skip it, teh doc will know. take half the dose, your test levels will be levated enough for teh doc to know you took it, but it wouldnt be too elevated to cause concern
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Ok that's what I did. Put off the test for 14 days. I'm going to run 100 mg test prop EOD for this week and stop that 9 days prior to the test. In addition, instead of pinning a full cc, I'll go with 1/2cc - 1/2 dose then give it 8 days w nothing but 150 var/ day and stop that 2 days prior to the test. I'm sure it will come in about 400 or so. What I'm shooting for is 200 mg test cyp / week. I just want ot get into that 1000 -1300 range and start feeln good. I'm also cruizin on 150 mg deca a week. That will not show up in the test as testosterone. . These is this awesome chart from another site that shows how the levels work out pinning @ different intervals and different amounts. I arrived @ that 400 # off this chanrt keeping in mind the 1/2 lives of my Test Enth/prop and rx Cyp shots.
Damn Chart is hard to read after I copy/paste it here. I tried to attach it as a word doc but this damn site won't allow that.
RS
QUICK DISCLAIMER: Please assume this is not going to be accurate for everyone. I'm sure there are variables that can't be accounted for. I made this to see ballpark figures with the information I have
Hope someone finds it helpful!
Mg TT ng/dl Ratio 7 day half life (ng/dl)
25 253 10.12 126.5
50 306 6.12 153
100 449.4 4.94 224.7 (my guess)
125 542 4.336 271
200 881.9 4.4095 440.95 (my guess)
300 1345 4.483 672.5
600 2370 3.95 1185
Weekly Regiment 50 mg 306 ng/dl
Week 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
1 306 153 77 38 19 10 5 2 1 1
2 306 153 77 38 19 10 5 2 1
3 306 153 77 38 19 10 5 2
4 306 153 77 38 19 10 5
5 306 153 77 38 19 10
6 306 153 77 38 19
7 306 153 77 38
8 306 153 77
9 306 153
10 306
TT Pre Injection : 0 153 230 268 287 296 301 304 305 305
TT Post Injection : 306 459 536 574 593 602 607 610 611 611
Weekly Regiment 100 mg 450 ng/dl
Week 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
1 450 225 113 56 28 14 7 4 2 1
2 450 225 113 56 28 14 7 4 2
3 450 225 113 56 28 14 7 4
4 450 225 113 56 28 14 7
5 450 225 113 56 28 14
6 450 225 113 56 28
7 450 225 113 56
8 450 225 113
9 450 225
10 450
TT Pre Injection : 0 225 338 394 422 436 443 446 448 449
TT Post Injection : 450 675 788 844 872 886 893 896 898 899
Weekly Regiment 125 mg 542 ng/dl
Week 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
1 542 271 136 68 34 17 8 4 2 1
2 542 271 136 68 34 17 8 4 2
3 542 271 136 68 34 17 8 4
4 542 271 136 68 34 17 8
5 542 271 136 68 34 17
6 542 271 136 68 34
7 542 271 136 68
8 542 271 136
9 542 271
10 542
TT Pre Injection : 0 271 407 474 508 525 534 538 540 541
TT Post Injection : 542 813 949 1016 1050 1067 1076 1080 1082 1083
2 Week Regiment 200 mg 882 ng/dl
Week 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
1 882 441 221 110 55 28 14 7 3 2
2
3 882 441 221 110 55 28 14 7
4
5 882 441 221 110 55 28
6
7 882 441 221 110
8
9 882 441
10
TT Pre Injection : 0 441 221 551 276 579 289 586 293 587
TT Post Injection : 882 441 1103 551 1158 579 1171 586 1175 587
3 Week Regiment 100 mg 450 ng/dl
Week 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
1 450 225 113 56 28 14 7 4 2 1
2
3
4 450 225 113 56 28 14 7
5
6
7 450 225 113 56
8
9
10 450
TT Pre Injection : 0 225 113 56 253 127 63 257 128 64
TT Post Injection : 450 225 113 506 253 127 513 257 128 514
3 Week Regiment 125 mg 542 ng/dl
Week 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
1 542 271 136 68 34 17 8 4 2 1
2
3
4 542 271 136 68 34 17 8
5
6
7 542 271 136 68
8
9
10 542
TT Pre Injection : 0 271 136 68 305 152 76 309 155 77
TT Post Injection : 542 271 136 610 305 152 618 309 155 619
Weekly Regiment 200 mg 882 ng/dl
Week 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
1 882 441 221 110 55 28 14 7 3 2
2 882 441 221 110 55 28 14 7 3
3 882 441 221 110 55 28 14 7
4 882 441 221 110 55 28 14
5 882 441 221 110 55 28
6 882 441 221 110 55
7 882 441 221 110
8 882 441 221
9 882 441
10 882
TT Pre Injection : 0 441 662 772 827 854 868 875 879 880
TT Post Injection : 882 1323 1544 1654 1709 1736 1750 1757 1761 1762
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i disagree with teh chart, it seems to be wayy off. i know for a fact ( my own blood work) that 125mg-175mg a week of test E will put your test levels at 1100-1300. According to the chart 300mg/week will put you in that range.
i have tried it with UGLs and Legit human grade test
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Yea - there was a disclaimer on the site saying everyone is different in regards to how they metabolize test and how quickly or slowly their levels drop. So many factors involved.
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Well my little plan worked. I put off the test for 2weeks and went to test prop EOD until 7 days pre teast. then I used gwl for 2days along with 150 mg ed anavar just to make sure I wasnt producing any of my own. My test level came back @ 745. Now got 3 months till the next bloods. Im blqsting now @750 EW Sustanon and 300 mg deca EW. I have another plan to come in low for the next test in order to get my script adjusted up to 200 mg cyp EW up from EOW.
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no problem, keep us updated.. also if she ever writes the prescription for you and you pick up the test yourself, instead of injecting 200mg every 14days, do 100mg every week
this^. there is a diff when you keep the levels level. no up and down yo-yo shit. to make my levels seem low i also did my blood work 3 days after i should have taken a shot (which i didnt do on purpose) and i was a little low (lower than the low end).
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this^. there is a diff when you keep the levels level. no up and down yo-yo shit. to make my levels seem low i also did my blood work 3 days after i should have taken a shot (which i didnt do on purpose) and i was a little low (lower than the low end).
How did that workout for you - did your endo up your dose?