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Title: Sport BJJ vs. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Self Defense vs Martial Arts, The Reality
Post by: Benny B on September 05, 2012, 09:20:21 PM
Saying things that I have stated on this very board myself to some of the bjj devotees here.

Lloyd Irvin discusses his belief on the brazilian jiu jitsu self defense vs sport jiu jitsu debate, martial arts in general, his home invasion, groupies, brainwashing in martial arts, and the over all reality of what self defense really is and which art is the best for self defense. This video is going to cause an uproar but it's the flat out plain truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxTdnUI9DxM


Title: Re: Sport BJJ vs. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Self Defense vs Martial Arts, The Reality
Post by: Shockwave on September 06, 2012, 08:30:58 AM
Interesting vid, but most of that stuff is common sense.


Title: Re: Sport BJJ vs. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Self Defense vs Martial Arts, The Reality
Post by: Benny B on September 06, 2012, 08:44:06 AM
Interesting vid, but most of that stuff is common sense.
Not to your typical Zuffa Zombie or dedicated brazilian jiu jitsu practitioner. ;) Most guys who really get into Gracie bjj (guys on this very board) totally drink the Kool-Aid.

The only thing I somewhat disagree with Lloyd about is that for grade-school age children, I think bjj alone could be highly effective for self defense. I saw several middle school/high school fights in the schoolyard or just off school grounds when I was a kid, where two kids squared off in a crowd with no interference from other kids and certainly no chance of weapons being brought out.


Title: Re: Sport BJJ vs. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Self Defense vs Martial Arts, The Reality
Post by: Shockwave on September 06, 2012, 10:40:08 AM
Not to your typical Zuffa Zombie or dedicated brazilian jiu jitsu practitioner. ;) Most guys who really get into Gracie bjj (guys on this very board) totally drink the Kool-Aid.

The only thing I somewhat disagree with Lloyd about is that for grade-school age children, I think bjj alone could be highly effective for self defense. I saw several middle school/high school fights in the schoolyard or just off school grounds when I was a kid, where two kids squared off in a crowd with no interference from other kids and certainly no chance of weapons being brought out.
Yeah, I'd agree with that. Might depend on what high school they're attending, however.  :D


Title: Re: Sport BJJ vs. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Self Defense vs Martial Arts, The Reality
Post by: Donny on September 07, 2012, 11:30:05 AM
I think fighting on the ground is a skill in its self. A lot of fights do end up grappling. Most guys go by if i hit him first i will win..does not always work. I have always loved Judo and boxing. I have also enjoyed the mix in Jeet kune do.


Title: Re: Sport BJJ vs. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Self Defense vs Martial Arts, The Reality
Post by: arce1988 on October 14, 2012, 02:12:59 PM
  Cool guy


Title: Re: Sport BJJ vs. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Self Defense vs Martial Arts, The Reality
Post by: Benny B on November 11, 2012, 02:58:57 AM
Lloyd Irvin's 1st fight from the 2012 Nogi World Championships. Lloyd dropped 35 lbs to prepare for this event.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGSGPIotb7M


Title: Re: Sport BJJ vs. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Self Defense vs Martial Arts, The Reality
Post by: gracie bjj on November 13, 2012, 06:55:57 AM
lloyds school where he teaches is about 45 minutes from me, his privates r about 1000$ an hr :o


Title: Re: Sport BJJ vs. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Self Defense vs Martial Arts, The Reality
Post by: Childish///AMG on June 09, 2013, 06:36:57 PM
Very "Interesting" and informative


Title: Re: Sport BJJ vs. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Self Defense vs Martial Arts, The Reality
Post by: Darren Avey on June 17, 2013, 09:08:01 AM
lloyds school where he teaches is about 45 minutes from me, his privates r about 1000$ an hr :o

Yeh but it must be worth the money, after a few sessions you can say "yeh welcome to da top of da food chain!!!"