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September 16, 2012
Obama Destabilized the Middle East on Purpose
By Karin McQuillan
On Fox News Wednesday night, both Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity were full of self-congratulatory comments about how they had easily seen the Muslim Brotherhood problem with the "Arab Spring," and how could Obama have failed to see it? Duh. Of course, our State Department and White House knew that the Muslim Brotherhood would be taking over Egypt. It was obvious to any reasonably informed ordinary citizen.
The same debate we've seen over Obama's destruction of the American economy has already begun over his Middle East policy. Did Obama hand Egypt over to jihadis, and is he giving a green light to nuclear Iran, because of incompetence or his leftist ideology?
John Hinderacker over at Powerlineblog.com writes:
You could call his actions in the region incoherent, except that it's worse than that, especially if you take into account his hostility toward Israel. If a consistent principle can be deduced, it is that Obama wants to avoid doing anything that might advance U.S. interests. Maybe that's the answer, or maybe he just doesn't care enough to formulate a real policy. Be that as it may, one thing is clear: but for Obama's feckless participation in the overthrow of Egypt's and Libya's governments, yesterday's events would not have happened.
The answer, of course, is both incompetence and ideology. Muddle-headed ideologues of the left, such as our president, want America to be brought down to size. They truly believe that violent jihadi hate-groups can be tamed by appeasement, because the evil parties are Israel and America. So Obama helps depose Mubarak and Gaddafi, knowing they will be replaced by Islamic supremacists. He tells Israel they are on their own, we didn't really mean it about being allies. He blocks attempts to prevent a nuclear Iran, even by economic sanctions, because he doesn't like American shows of force and thinks we can live with a nuclear Iran. We lived with a nuclear Soviet Union, didn't we? Are we against Arabs, that we think they shouldn't have nuclear weapons, too? It sounds like a joke, but it isn't.
Incompetence was also in full force this 9/11. The attacks in Egypt and Libya were preventable. Why weren't our embassies and consulates in the Middle East properly protected? Why are fifty Marines sent in after the fact? Why didn't we have intelligence in advance? When the mob was gathering outside the Cairo embassy, the frightened staff issued an apology. What is wrong with our diplomatic corps if that was their response? Clinton should have gotten on the phone to the Muslim Brotherhood President Morsi and explained to him what would happen if he didn't protect our embassy. The rent-a-riot, inflamed purposefully by publicizing an obscure anti-Mohammed video, should have been stopped before they got anywhere close to our embassy.
When the embassy did issue their pathetic attempt at appeasement, and reissue it after our flag was torn down, Obama should have made a strong statement immediately, one that indicated that there are repercussions for attacking America. Instead, he allowed the apology to stand (for nine hours) until Romney condemned it. Desecrations of our flag didn't get the president's attention, but electoral politics did.
Obama's incompetence is an outgrowth of a broadly based Democrat ideology that wants us to believe that the war on terror was a stupid Bush idea. They accuse Republicans of exaggerating the jihadi threat. They smear any public figure who is concerned about the global Islamist war with the label "Islamophobe."
Obama, along with many liberal Democrats, believes that American strength is immoral. We shouldn't impose our views on other nations. So when the Muslim Brotherhood made its move last year, using the "Facebook revolution" as cover (and a very transparent cover it was), we abandoned Mubarak and told the Egyptian military to stand aside. We purposefully let the Middle East's oldest terror organization take over the Middle East's most populous country.
The Muslim Brotherhood is considered the father of the jihadi movement. It was adopted by Adolf Hitler under the Third Reich and grew from a languishing 10,000 members to a million strong by the end of World War II -- Hitler's permanent legacy for world destruction. Yet our president and State Department believe in embracing the Brothers as modernizing moderates.
The Brothers started the modern jihadi movement, complete with a genocidal program against Jews. In the words of Matthias Kuntzel, "[t]he significance of the Brotherhood to Islamism is comparable to that of the Bolshevik Party to communism: It was and remains to this day the ideological reference point and organizational core for all later Islamist groups, including al-Qaeda and Hamas."
Mubarak was the reason there have been no attacks by Arab states on Israel for thirty years. The 1979 Camp David accords neutralized Egypt as a player in the Arab war against Israel. To protect his own life and power, Mubarak kept the Muslim Brothers of Egypt under control. In return, Egypt has been receiving a billion and a half dollars a year -- payoff money from the United States. Egypt didn't agree to a friendly peace, and it wasn't a democracy, but in terms of Middle East geopolitics, supporting Mubarak was a critical success factor.
Obama and Hillary threw all that away with their embrace of the Arab Spring. It could have gone differently. We could have spoken out in support of Mubarak, showing the world that we are trustworthy allies. Instead, we abandoned a crucial ally when the mob howled. We could have told the Egyptian military that they had better make sure the Muslim Brothers don't take over the country. Instead, we told them to step aside and usher the Brothers into power.
Hillary's State Department proclaimed that the Muslim Brothers had become moderates. Anyone having a flashback to the Carter era, when all the liberals knew that the Ayatollah Khomeini would be a partner for peace?
The Obama Doctrine on the Middle East was hinted at in the president's 2009 Cairo speech, during a Middle East tour in which Obama did not visit Israel. Obama apologized for our war on terror. "The fear and anger" after 9/11 "led us to act contrary to our ideals," he told the Egyptian crowd. In a speech in France, Obama declared that America must make deep cuts in our nuclear arsenal, because otherwise we don't have "the moral authority to say to Iran, don't develop a nuclear weapon."
President Obama fought Congress tooth and nail on imposing economic sanctions against Iran this year -- already too little, too late. According to vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan, the White House did everything they could to stop Congress from requiring sanctions, and then they used the waiver provision to gut them. There is no benign explanation for this. Left-wing anti-colonialists -- and our president is one -- think Iran will use its nuclear weapons responsibly.
One of the most chilling visuals in 2016: Obama's America is a map of the world's nuclear arsenals. Obama has already cut our nuclear warhead arsenal from 5,000 to 1,500 (in an "arms treaty" that allowed Russia to increase its arsenal). He has asked the Pentagon to report to him on reducing our nuclear warheads to 300. That's about the same number as France. Pakistan has 110 nuclear weapons. Obama, it seems, believes in equality in national defense, as well as in class warfare.
In July, five conservative congressmen, including Michele Bachmann, expressed alarm over evidence that the Muslim Brotherhood has succeeded in placing operatives in key positions throughout the Obama administration. In Bachman's words, State Department polices "appear to be a result of influence operations conducted by individuals and organizations associated with the Muslim Brotherhood." Instead of backing up Bachmann, our Republican leadership joined in Democrat attacks on her.
The policies Bachmann listed are not trivial. The Obama/Clinton team defied a congressional resolution to hold up our 1.5 billion dollars to Egypt until we knew they were still allies. Paying off Mubarak made sense. Handing billions to a Muslim Brotherhood Egypt, not so much. Do you think Egyptian President Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood candidate, would have allowed a mob to attack our embassy if these funds were in play?
Congressman Bachman is concerned, based on Frank Gaffney's analysis, that our Department of Homeland Security may have eight Muslim Brotherhood members in key advisory roles, including the Countering Violent Extremism (CVE)'s Working Group, which is responsible for training homeland security agents. The CVE will be using federal Homeland Security funds to funnel money to Muslim Brotherhood organizations in the United States, in the name of a "community-oriented policing approach." The Homeland Security Office of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties has established the policy of protecting "terrorism-precursor activities" as "cultural behaviors."
Congressman Bachmann questioned why the DHS official lexicon equates jihadi extremists with "Christian patriots" and "Constitutionlists." She asked about Huma Abedin, Hillary's closest adviser at State, who formerly worked for a Brotherhood organization, founded and funded by Abdullah Naseef, who also finances al-Qaeda. There is no question that Abedin helps Clinton formulate U.S. Middle East policy.
The sorry list goes on and on. (For more details, see Frank Gaffney's "The Muslim Brotherhood in the Obama Administration.")
The point here is not only that the Muslim Brotherhood is influencing American foreign policy. The arrow points in both directions: the Obama/Clinton policy of tolerating and even promoting the power of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt is the same policy that promotes their front groups in America. It is the liberal idiocy that our enemies are friends, and our friends enemies.
Obama has signaled clearly and repeatedly that America no longer has Israel's back. He could not have done anything more effective to sabotage negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians than his public pressure on Israel to declare unilaterally they will withdraw to their 1948 borders. Obama bypassed congressional limits on aid to the Palestinian Authority after their alliance with Hamas, putting $200 million into the hands of one of the most vicious and dangerous terror groups in the Middle East. And he has signaled to the Iranians that Israel is on its own. Then there are the personal but well-publicized snubs to the Israeli prime minister, and the open mike revelations of Obama's contempt and dislike for Bibi. Obama has time to go on the Letterman show in New York next week, but he refuses to meet with Netanyahu, as the go/no go decision on bombing Iran stares Israel in the face.
Abandoning Israel invites war. But in Obama's mind, he is promoting fairness. He thinks Israel is the problem. He thinks that harming Israel will win America friends among Arabs. He thinks he is pressuring the Israelis to stop being bad guys.
Obama is purposefully harming American interests, but he thinks it will turn out okay. He attacks the American economy and free-enterprise system, and he thinks it will turn out okay. He attacks our energy industry, and he thinks it will turn out okay. He attacks the rule of law and our Constitution, and he thinks it will turn out okay. He undermines the hard-won stability of Egypt and thinks it will turn out okay. We have a president who thinks American national security interests, power, and prosperity are the problem. Then, when it's a broken mess, he's surprised, and he asks for more time to do more of the same. Obama is the problem.
The Middle East is a harsh taskmaster. It is no place for an aging schoolboy leftist like our president. In the real world, stupid ideas such as the one dominant in Obama's administration, that jihadis really want peace -- such ideas have very bloody consequences. The tragic deaths of our diplomats in Libya are only the beginning. Iran looms over us all.
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Obama and the Deliberate Decline of America
Townhall.com ^ | September 17, 2012 | Crystal Wright
Are we really surprised by the Middle East uprising against America? This isn’t about the American produced video against the prophet Muhammad. This is about President Obama being a weak defender of America abroad, almost by design. Barely six months in office, Obama decided his first foreign trip, as president, would be to Egypt to apologize to the Muslim world for America behaving badly after 9/11.
Since when did America apologize for defending itself against madmen who kill in the name of God and give us advance notice of their impending carnage? In his Cairo speech delivered in June 2009, Obama said he was “honored” to be in a country from which many 9/11 terrorists came.
Then our president criticized American democracy and freedom and promised radical Muslims they could come to expect a less aggressive defender of “peace through strength.” Obama roared to cheers from Cairo: “9/11 was an enormous trauma to our country. The fear and anger that it provoked was understandable, but in some cases, it led us to act contrary to our ideals. We are taking concrete actions to change course. . . So America will defend itself, respectful of the sovereignty of nations and the rule of law.”
This speech combined with Obama’s subsequent lack of engagement during the Arab Spring, as dictators were toppled in Tunisia, Libya, Yemen, and Egypt, and his do nothing approach to Iran and Syria was an invitation to radical Islamists to commit the events of this past week. Islamic madmen have been given a license to kill our diplomats, deface our embassies and burn our flag because we have a president who has indicated from the start his disdain for America’s strength in the world, it’s superpower.
When Iran held rigged elections in 2009, Iranians stormed the streets in protests, what did Obama do? Nothing. When Iran indicated it would pursue a nuclear program, what did Obama do? Say, give diplomacy a chance.
When Israel repeatedly asked Obama to prove USA was its ally and give Iran a deadline to end its nuclear program, what did Obama do? Nothing. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said America won’t put deadlines on Iran, a terror state that indicates its mission is to destroy Israel. (It is worth noting in Obama’s three and half years in office he has yet to visit Israel, though he professes to have the Israeli’s back.)
When Syrian president Assad began “butchering” 20,000 Syrians almost two years ago, what did Obama do. Nothing.
In her Republican National Convention speech, Condoleeza Rice warned when America fails to lead, chaos ensues and “others who do not share our values will fill the vacuum. My fellow Americans, we do not have a choice. We cannot be reluctant to lead — and one cannot lead from behind.”
Obama's abdication of leadership in his foreign policy seems to be deliberately designed “to reduce American power in the world,” as Dinesh D’Souza writes in the Roots of Obama’s Rage. D’Souza traces Obama’s anti-colonist beliefs back to his father and demonstrates how Obama’s foreign policy goal is to level out the global playing field, so America has declining influence in the world. In a 2009 speech in Europe, Obama said “I believe in American exeptionalism just as I suspect the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks in Greek exceptionalism,” (p. 11, Roots of Obama’s Rage).
In his apologist speech in Cairo, Obama revealed his anti-colonial beliefs and seemed to sympathize with Muslim radicals. “More recently, tension has been fed by colonialism that denied rights and opportunities to many Muslims, and a cold war in which Muslim-majority countries were too often treated as proxies without regard to their own aspirations.” The subtext of what Obama appeared to be saying was he could understand how years of Muslim nations being oppressed by other nations like America would lead them to such heinous terrorist attacks.
Whether Obama is driven by his father’s anti-colonial worldview that America as been the oppressor of the oppressed and needs to be cut down to size or he’s just in over his head, it’s evident Obama’s isn’t getting the job done. As a result of his incompetence, Obama is making America and the world a less safer place. We can’t afford four more years of this. The question is how will Mitt Romney capitalize on this?
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before i read this.. it this real proof or a bunch of circumstantial shit held together with a string of relation
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before i read this.. it this real proof or a bunch of circumstantial shit held together with a string of relation
Obama is trying collapse the ME so that he can allow Iran to get nukes and become the dominate player in the ME. Once Iran gets nukes it can destroy Israel and spike the cause of oil as well as create a pan-islamist Superstate sort of like the EU, NATO, to where they can extract more wealth and power from us over tot hem and upset the balance of power.
Obama, misery be upon him, is doing this since he believes we are exploiting the ME's resources and that it is not fair for us to live a good lifestyle at their expense. he believes that the only way to redistribute our wealth to the sand nigs is to collapse the ME, create a power vacuum to where the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Quaeda can take over w Iran being the flagship of the new Islamist superstate.
you voted for this piece of shit - deal w it.
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Obama is trying collapse the ME so that he can allow Iran to get nukes and become the dominate player in the ME. Once Iran gets nukes it can destroy Israel and spike the cause of oil as well as create a pan-islamist Superstate sort of like the EU, NATO, to where they can extract more wealth and power from us over tot hem and upset the balance of power.Obama, misery be upon him, is doing this since he believes we are exploiting the ME's resources and that it is not fair for us to live a good lifestyle at their expense. he believes that the only way to redistribute our wealth to the sand nigs is to collapse the ME, create a power vacuum to where the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Quaeda can take over w Iran being the flagship of the new Islamist superstate.
you voted for this piece of shit - deal w it.
Dumbest shit ive ever read on this thread.. just jump.. do yourself a favor
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Dumbest shit ive ever read on this thread.. just jump.. do yourself a favor
Really you stupid fuck????
Why not explain to me why obama put the radical muslim brotherhood in power in egypt, lybia, yemen, etc and said nothing when Iran was cracking down on dissents seeking a revolution of freedom?
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Really you stupid fuck????
Why not explain to me why obama put the radical muslim brotherhood in power in egypt, lybia, yemen, etc and said nothing when Iran was cracking down on dissents seeking a revolution of freedom?
Because Obama did PUT anyone anywhere.. you fucking moron
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Because Obama did PUT anyone anywhere.. you fucking moron
Yes he did you illiterate fool.
We discussed it at the time.
Of course being a brainwashed leftist idiot you know ZILCH other than what leftist comedians spoon feed you but are you still so blind to not see what happened as recently as two years ago?
Of course not! Because in the Obama colored whack ass shades you wear, the Messiah can never do any wrong whatsoever.
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Yes he did you illiterate fool.
We discussed it at the time.
Of course being a brainwashed leftist idiot you know ZILCH other than what leftist comedians spoon feed you but are you still so blind to not see what happened as recently as two years ago?
Of course not! Because in the Obama colored whack ass shades you wear, the Messiah can never do any wrong whatsoever.
Supply proof of what youre talking about.. not theory, not guessing.. but a thing call Proof... something that a lawyer should have a firm grasp on.. please show me something that would stand up in court... if all you have is circumstantial evidence... then shut the complete fuck up..
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Supply proof of what youre talking about.. not theory, not guessing.. but a thing call Proof... something that a lawyer should have a firm grasp on.. please show me something that would stand up in court... if all you have is circumstantial evidence... then shut the complete fuck up..
i'm starting to feel sorry for 333386 i think he's mentally challenged, not :D :D
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i'm starting to feel sorry for 333386 i think he's mentally challenged, not :D :D
Yeah - muslim brotherhood just got there by themselves. ::)
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Supply proof of what youre talking about.. not theory, not guessing.. but a thing call Proof... something that a lawyer should have a firm grasp on.. please show me something that would stand up in court... if all you have is circumstantial evidence... then shut the complete fuck up..
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Supply proof of what youre talking about.. not theory, not guessing.. but a thing call Proof... something that a lawyer should have a firm grasp on.. please show me something that would stand up in court... if all you have is circumstantial evidence... then shut the complete fuck up..
Is there proof? Well I guess it depends on how you look at it. You have 2 scenario's
1) Obama is destabilizing the ME on purpose by giving time lines for with drawl and not supporting "allies" in the region which is leaving a power vacuum.
2) Obama's isn't doing it intentionally, and his foreign policy of "diplomacy", has back fired and he had no idea the pandora's box he was opening.
So which is worse?
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Is there proof? Well I guess it depends on how you look at it. You have 2 scenario's
1) Obama is destabilizing the ME on purpose by giving time lines for with drawl and not supporting "allies" in the region which is leaving a power vacuum.
2) Obama's isn't doing it intentionally, and his foreign policy of "diplomacy", has back fired and he had no idea the pandora's box he was opening.
So which is worse?
Obama didnt give marching orders for Arab Spring... wtf bro?
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The Ron Paul voter going to bat for Obama again. ::)
Mal, why do you spend so much time defending the guy if you're not voting for him?
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The Ron Paul voter going to bat for Obama again. ::)
Mal, why do you spend so much time defending the guy if you're not voting for him?
Im not defending the guy.. I defend rational thinking, evidence etc...If you want to bring up GITMO, have at at, ill fully agree if you weren't with Obama's actions. How about War on Drugs.. Dont like his policies in CA and the weed shops... ill agree with Obama hatred all day. But what The Mal will not engage in is circumstantial theories (opinions) that come from a source that has expressed a deep seeded hatred for the accused. I didnt ever say I agreed or disagreed with what was said about his involvement, but i did want to see something in writing, some objective evidence.. not shit from someone who already doesn't like the guy. Just because i liked Ron Paul doesnt mean that i will start lying about anyone against him. Thats just fucking stupid. I dont defend, or "go to bat" for obama.. i defend and "go to bat" for rational thinking, evidence and unbiased objective truth... and im out this muthafucka {drops the mike, walks off stage}
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Obama didnt give marching orders for Arab Spring... wtf bro?
He's the one that started calling it the Arab Spring, and if you look hard enough you are going to find the CIA involved in the social media output that lit the fuse in Egypt. The problem being there was no plan for the aftermath. Their guy didn't assume power and the US stood by and let Mubarak fall. The shit started in Libya, only this time we decided on "kinetic warfare" and brought the rebels back from the brink of defeat. And again their guy didn't assume power. Why do you think we stayed out of the Syria mess? His foreign policy is crap, Islam and democracy are like oil and water, they don't mix. The Islamist take over and then 9/11 anniversary comes along and holy shit our embassies are under siege, ambassador killed. But of course it's all due to a video that is so poorly put together a 3 yo could do a better job. Obama is neck deep in this mess, and the BS coming out of DC can't change that fact.
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Obama didnt give marching orders for Arab Spring... wtf bro?
LMFAO!!!! I swear - you obama sycophants never dissappoint.
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Im not defending the guy.. I defend rational thinking, evidence etc...If you want to bring up GITMO, have at at, ill fully agree if you weren't with Obama's actions. How about War on Drugs.. Dont like his policies in CA and the weed shops... ill agree with Obama hatred all day. But what The Mal will not engage in is circumstantial theories (opinions) that come from a source that has expressed a deep seeded hatred for the accused. I didnt ever say I agreed or disagreed with what was said about his involvement, but i did want to see something in writing, some objective evidence.. not shit from someone who already doesn't like the guy. Just because i liked Ron Paul doesnt mean that i will start lying about anyone against him. Thats just fucking stupid. I dont defend, or "go to bat" for obama.. i defend and "go to bat" for rational thinking, evidence and unbiased objective truth... and im out this muthafucka {drops the mike, walks off stage}
You claim to be a defender rational thinking, yet you can't see something blatantly obvious happening right in front of your face. Methinks your not capable of rational thinking when it comes to political matters ( and possibly many other things) based on your relentlessly predictable defenses of Obama.
With Obama, you need written proof signed, witnessed by the pope and notarized which states unequivocally that he's an anti American fuck up who has no idea what he's doing and would like nothing more than to destroy life as we know it in order to prop up his childish 3rd world ideology.
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If such a signed statement existed, and it was released-- I'm sure you would spend every waking hour on this website telling everyone how the document is a fake and the signature isn't Obama's, the pope is racist and the notary's license expired 2 months ago.
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To the obamabot - nothing he does ever matters!
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You claim to be a defender rational thinking, yet you can't see something blatantly obvious happening right in front of your face. Methinks your not capable of rational thinking when it comes to political matters ( and possibly many other things) based on your relentlessly predictable defenses of Obama.
With Obama, you need written proof signed, witnessed by the pope and notarized which states unequivocally that he's an anti American fuck up who has no idea what he's doing and would like nothing more than to destroy life as we know it in order to prop up his childish 3rd world ideology.
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If such a signed statement existed, and it was released-- I'm sure you would spend every waking hour on this website telling everyone how the document is a fake and the signature isn't Obama's, the pope is racist and the notary's license expired 2 months ago.
Jesus h christ, based on your opinions and slanted view point EVERY PRESIDENT EVER COULD BE BLAMED FOR TRYING TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY. You can say Bush II got us in 2 wars to bankrupt the nation and blah blah...you can Say Clinton with NAFTA, and on and on and on. You can say Reagon tried to destroy the innercities with his Iran Contra shit.. dude... its all BS. You idiots get on here and present Opinions as fact.. you string enough shit together you can accuse anyone of anything. Cmon son.. youre smarter than that.
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You claim to be a defender rational thinking, yet you can't see something blatantly obvious happening right in front of your face. Methinks your not capable of rational thinking when it comes to political matters ( and possibly many other things) based on your relentlessly predictable defenses of Obama.
With Obama, you need written proof signed, witnessed by the pope and notarized which states unequivocally that he's an anti American fuck up who has no idea what he's doing and would like nothing more than to destroy life as we know it in order to prop up his childish 3rd world ideology.
::)
If such a signed statement existed, and it was released-- I'm sure you would spend every waking hour on this website telling everyone how the document is a fake and the signature isn't Obama's, the pope is racist and the notary's license expired 2 months ago.
LOL!!
This man is an awesome poster.
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LOL!!
This man is an awesome poster.
All that sounds good but cant be backed up.. thats just the fact... I dont defend Obama, but i do condemn false truths. You cant just say shit with out a thing called evidence. I just dont operate like that. Like i said, if you want to talk about how Obama lied about GITMO, im all with you (which is highly documented). Or you want to talk about how the Stim bill didnt have enough infrastructure spending... i will agree.. Fuck Obama.. but dont sit here and blame a man for shit that he didnt do.. Shit that you string together on some 7 degrees of seperation shit. Charles Manson did some fucked up shit, but im not gonna blame him for the Oklahoma city Bombing because im lazy. God damn, just go one step further and do just a little bit of research..
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Obama is trying collapse the ME so that he can allow Iran to get nukes and become the dominate player in the ME. Once Iran gets nukes it can destroy Israel and spike the cause of oil as well as create a pan-islamist Superstate sort of like the EU, NATO, to where they can extract more wealth and power from us over tot hem and upset the balance of power.
Obama, misery be upon him, is doing this since he believes we are exploiting the ME's resources and that it is not fair for us to live a good lifestyle at their expense. he believes that the only way to redistribute our wealth to the sand nigs is to collapse the ME, create a power vacuum to where the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Quaeda can take over w Iran being the flagship of the new Islamist superstate.
you voted for this piece of shit - deal w it.
You are killing me hahhhahhh
Go tell that to your closet fag gop friends and in-breed family they will love it.
Oh yeah and leave the politics to grown-ups who is not retarded.
Have a nice day.
Oh and fuck off shit-for-brains
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Jesus h christ, based on your opinions and slanted view point EVERY PRESIDENT EVER COULD BE BLAMED FOR TRYING TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY. You can say Bush II got us in 2 wars to bankrupt the nation and blah blah...you can Say Clinton with NAFTA, and on and on and on. You can say Reagon tried to destroy the innercities with his Iran Contra shit.. dude... its all BS. You idiots get on here and present Opinions as fact.. you string enough shit together you can accuse anyone of anything. Cmon son.. youre smarter than that.
You are discussing common sense and reality with a Neocon friend.
Your time would be better spent teaching your dog to do your taxes.
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Obama is trying collapse the ME so that he can allow Iran to get nukes and become the dominate player in the ME. Once Iran gets nukes it can destroy Israel and spike the cause of oil as well as create a pan-islamist Superstate sort of like the EU, NATO, to where they can extract more wealth and power from us over tot hem and upset the balance of power.
Obama, misery be upon him, is doing this since he believes we are exploiting the ME's resources and that it is not fair for us to live a good lifestyle at their expense. he believes that the only way to redistribute our wealth to the sand nigs is to collapse the ME, create a power vacuum to where the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Quaeda can take over w Iran being the flagship of the new Islamist superstate.
you voted for this piece of shit - deal w it.
The Deep End.
;D
That being said, OB has mishandled the ME.
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The Deep End.
;D
That being said, OB has mishandled the ME.
What part is wrong?
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What part is wrong?
HAhaaaaa how do you come up with this stuff??
You are a great comedian ;D
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What part is wrong?
How about, using a simple fact based response (evidence and facts as the bases for argument) show how everything you said IS right.
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How about, using a simple fact based response (evidence and facts as the bases for argument) show how everything you said IS right.
1. Obama ousted relatively benign dictators in the ME who were not bothering us in favor of radical islamists with elements of al quaeda - FACT
2. Obama has not said shit about Iran's crack down on dissendents and has dithered while they get the nuke bomb - FACT
3. Obama believes colonialism is the cause of the current make up the ME and that it unfairly extracts wealth from them to us. FACT
4. Obama went on a ME kneepad tour to the crazies. FACT
5. Obama is trying to get israel to go back to 1967 borders - FACT
6. Obama Admn is infiltrated by the Muslim Brothers - FACT
7. Obama has funnelled hundreds of millions of dollars to the muslim borotherhood - FACT
8. Obama has lied about the cause of the uprisings - FACT
9. Obama is a muslim and islamic sympathizer - FACT
Go watch 2016 and read Roots of Obamas rage and you will understand
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1. Obama ousted relatively benign dictators in the ME who were not bothering us in favor of radical islamists with elements of al quaeda - FACT
2. Obama has not said shit about Iran's crack down on dissendents and has dithered while they get the nuke bomb - FACT
3. Obama believes colonialism is the cause of the current make up the ME and that it unfairly extracts wealth from them to us. FACT
4. Obama went on a ME kneepad tour to the crazies. FACT
5. Obama is trying to get israel to go back to 1967 borders - FACT
6. Obama Admn is infiltrated by the Muslim Brothers - FACT
7. Obama has funnelled hundreds of millions of dollars to the muslim borotherhood - FACT
8. Obama has lied about the cause of the uprisings - FACT
9. Obama is a muslim and islamic sympathizer - FACT
Go watch 2016 and read Roots of Obamas rage and you will understand
Even "if" all those were true and factual how do they equate to your charge?
1. conjecture
2. politics
3. show me
4. political, conjecture
5. political, and show me more evidence of his efforts
6. political, show me
7. show me, also we have been sending aid forever
8. political
9. political
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How about, using a simple fact based response (evidence and facts as the bases for argument) show how everything you said IS right.
I ask for a shread of credible evidence and im a shill for obama.. i just dont get these dude.
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I ask for a shread of credible evidence and im a shill for obama.. i just dont get these dude.
I already explained why obama is doing what he is.
No other rational explanation has presented otherwise why a US POTUS would do what Obama has done.
Beyond treason to place the MB in charge of Egypt and Lybia
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I already explained why obama is doing what he is.
No other rational explanation has presented otherwise why a US POTUS would do what Obama has done.
Beyond treason to place the MB in charge of Egypt and Lybia
I dont take your Explaination... youve lied countless times and fudged the truth and been extremely inconsistant so much that youve lost all credibility.
Thats just what it is. Your reputation here is such that you would find a way to link a rainy day some how to blame Obama.
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I dont take your Explaination... youve lied countless times and fudged the truth and been extremely inconsistant so much that youve lost all credibility.
Thats just what it is. Your reputation here is such that you would find a way to link a rainy day some how to blame Obama.
Fine - when it all comes to fruition like many other things I said you can sit there is your continued ignorance on what the Messiah is doing.
Fury, GW and myself warned many many times what the end result of Obamas policies would be.
Ignorant naive idiots like yourself on the Hope and Change Express are too brainwashed to see the reality that is occurring.
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Fine - when it all comes to fruition like many other things I said you can sit there is your continued ignorance on what the Messiah is doing.
Fury, GW and myself warned many many times what the end result of Obamas policies would be.
Ignorant naive idiots like yourself on the Hope and Change Express are too brainwashed to see the reality that is occurring.
ok you do that
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Egypt to try US citizen, seven others over anti-Islam video
The Hill ^ | Sept. 18, 2012 | Julian Pecquet
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:05:15 PM
Egypt's general prosecutor on Tuesday issued arrest warrants for Florida Pastor Terry Jones and seven Coptic Christian Egyptians linked to an anti-Islam video on YouTube that sparked riots across the Middle East, The Associated Press is reporting.
The eight individuals, none of whom are believed to be in Egypt, are charged with harming national unity, insulting and publicly attacking Islam and spreading false information. They could face the death penalty.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
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Even "if" all those were true and factual how do they equate to your charge?
1. conjecture
2. politics
3. show me
4. political, conjecture
5. political, and show me more evidence of his efforts
6. political, show me
7. show me, also we have been sending aid forever
8. political
9. political
bump
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bump
If you are waiting for obama on video to describe his plan its never going to happen.
Obama can't be honest about his plotting our destruction since he knows people would be horrified.
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If you are waiting for obama on video to describe his plan its never going to happen.
Obama can't be honest about his plotting our destruction since he knows people would be horrified.
No, i am waiting for you to back up and prove your "Deep end" claims.
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No, i am waiting for you to back up and prove your "Deep end" claims.
Follow the news and its very easy to formulate.
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Follow the news and its very easy to formulate.
Cop out.
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All that sounds good but cant be backed up.. thats just the fact... I dont defend Obama, but i do condemn false truths. You cant just say shit with out a thing called evidence. I just dont operate like that. Like i said, if you want to talk about how Obama lied about GITMO, im all with you (which is highly documented). Or you want to talk about how the Stim bill didnt have enough infrastructure spending... i will agree.. Fuck Obama.. but dont sit here and blame a man for shit that he didnt do.. Shit that you string together on some 7 degrees of seperation shit. Charles Manson did some fucked up shit, but im not gonna blame him for the Oklahoma city Bombing because im lazy. God damn, just go one step further and do just a little bit of research..
Oh my effing God. Did you just write that? Do you seriously expect anyone to waste the time and effort connecting the dots for you at this point, when you knock the stimulus for not enough infastructure spending ::)?
It would be like showing an armless, legless man how to punt a football.
I'm not going to collect and compile every single prediction, excerpt, article, link and editorial I have posted about Obama on this website since 2008 just for the purpose of walking you through what has already transpired all over again. I also don't feel like conducting a just for Mal hooked on phonics recitation of Obama's autobiography.
You're a doctor (allegedly). I don't know what kind of Doctor-- but for the purpose of this hypothetical, let's say your a Cardiologist. A patient comes into your office complaining of chest pains. He is 57 years old, extremely overweight, smells like cigarettes, has yellow teeth and cookie crumbs on his shirt, breathes heavily, sweats profusely and upon physical examination you discover he has dangerously high blood pressure. It also turns out that his father and grandfather died of heart disease. You explain (hopefully) that his chest pains are due to his smoking, obesity, poor eating habits and that the chest pains might be symptomatic of something serious in light of his family history.
He responds by saying that your full of shit, he eats an extremely healthy diet, has never smoked before, exercises regularly, has tons of energy, sleeps 8 hours a night, is a stallion in the bedroom and insists that his chest pains are due to acid reflux from ingesting too many salads with oil and vinegar. He also attributes his high blood pressure and sweating to being nervous about visiting the Doctor's office.
Gee Whiz-- I guess you should take him at his word. He didn't admit that he smokes, overeats and is extremely unhealthy; The obvious be damned. Would you in good conscience say-- "Ok Sir, sorry for the trouble, you're perfectly fine-- Just go to Rite Aid and buy yourself some TUMS. Everything will be alright."
If you're too stupid or too lazy to dig up the "evidence" for yourself, that's not my problem. I'm not running for office and I don't need to convince you of anything. You'll just waste your vote on another 4 years of this disgrace and then pat yourself on the back for keeping one of the "brothers" in power-- while the UE rate in the black community continues to reach levels unseen since Jim Crow.
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George, you might be a complete idiot at this point. You can’t take the DX of a man’s symptoms (which is evidence of the ailment itself) and compare it to a situation where there is violence in a historically volatile region of the world that has about 200 different factors at play, and call them equal. That’s just dumb. Especially if the "evidence" is coming from a bunch of people that hate the person they are blaming already... you follow? c’mon this shit isn’t too hard.
Now if you can’t present any reasonable explanation of why you think "Obama is trying to collapse the nation via Middle East policies" or how... than youre the lazy one. It’s real easy to say "Obama=black so Obama=Bad" but I’m sorry... that weak as fuck to me. Until you get some facts, there isn’t a whole lot to go on.
Like I said, I can put formulate a thesis to try to explain phenomena, but that doesn’t make it fact. Shit, the bullshit some people spew on this page couldn’t even be considered a hypothesis because it can’t be tested, as it’s out of fucking thin air. I can say "ah haaaaa it was Ronald Reagans plan all along to make the inner-city low income communities more miserable via his funding of the Contras during the Iran Contra Affair by using proceeds from cocaine sells to fund the illegal operation that congress denied funding. The largest market for the cheap cocaine was low income areas and he knew blacks live in those areas so therefore Ronald Reagan is personally responsible for intentionally trying to destroy the black community in the inner cities"
You would look at that and say "Malcolm you’re a complete whack job" because there are a bunch of loose factors that I've strung together to come up with an unreasonable theory to explain the phenom of the crack epidemic in the inner-city... But that’s all it is... a bunch of shit put together.
And on the point about my criticisms of Obama and his early policies. I’ve stated for 3 years now my stances. I’ll do it again for you. Stim bill, not enough infrastructure spending. Gitmo, didn’t close it like he said he would, liar. DADT, at the time was still in effect. His federal stance on Weed, though I don’t smoke, there isn’t any evidence that says it’s even detrimental affects are worse than beer, and the evidence of its medicinal benefits (symptom easing) is overwhelming. Healthcare overhaul wasn’t far reaching enough in my POV as he tried to compromise instead of making it universal. Either shit or get off the pot. The bail out of the banks was pure shit.
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Obama is trying collapse the ME so that he can allow Iran to get nukes and become the dominate player in the ME. Once Iran gets nukes it can destroy Israel and spike the cause of oil as well as create a pan-islamist Superstate sort of like the EU, NATO, to where they can extract more wealth and power from us over tot hem and upset the balance of power.
Obama, misery be upon him, is doing this since he believes we are exploiting the ME's resources and that it is not fair for us to live a good lifestyle at their expense. he believes that the only way to redistribute our wealth to the sand nigs is to collapse the ME, create a power vacuum to where the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Quaeda can take over w Iran being the flagship of the new Islamist superstate.
The Deep End.
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Follow the news and its very easy to formulate twist, contort, lie, whine, and imagine bullshit with a fractured brain like mine.
Fixed.
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Is there proof? Well I guess it depends on how you look at it. You have 2 scenario's
1) Obama is destabilizing the ME on purpose by giving time lines for with drawl and not supporting "allies" in the region which is leaving a power vacuum.
2) Obama's isn't doing it intentionally, and his foreign policy of "diplomacy", has back fired and he had no idea the pandora's box he was opening.
So which is worse?
so what5 should have been the policy smartass?....since "diplomacy" was so bad for you???
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HAhaaaaa how do you come up with this stuff??
You are a great comedian ;D
I am really beginning to think he is one of Ron's supergimmicks.....he uses them to drive more and more posters to the site...Gh15 was another one
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Obama thanks Egypt's president over embassy protection
Reuters ^ | September 23, 2012 | Edmund Blair
Posted on September 24, 2012 6:12:18 AM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
President Barack Obama has thanked the Egyptian president for securing the U.S. Embassy during protests against a film made in the United States that mocked Prophet Mohammad and sparked worldwide demonstrations and violence.
Obama's rival in the U.S. presidential race, Mitt Romney, called for a tougher line with Egypt after protesters scaled the compound wall and tore down the U.S. flag on September 11.
Police clashed with demonstrators for four days after that incident and barriers were erected to stop them getting near the compound.
In a letter, Obama repeated Washington's condemnation of the film and said he looked forward to working with President Mohamed Mursi to build on the "strategic partnership", Mursi's official Facebook page said on Sunday.
"In his letter, President Obama thanked the Egyptian president for Egyptian efforts to secure the mission of the United States in Cairo," according to the site...
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
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Obama Says Attacks In Libya And Egypt Are Just "Bumps In The Road"
60 Minutes via YouTube ^ | Sunday, September 23, 2012 | GOPICYMI
Posted on September 23, 2012 10:46:08 PM EDT by kristinn
(60 Minutes video clip at source link.)
This may be the first time in history that a President of the United States has called a terrorist attack against the country a "bump in the road." (September 23, 2012).
Transcript via The Weekly Standard:
CBS's Steve Kroft asked, “Have the events that took place in the Middle East, the recent events in the Middle East given you any pause about your support for the governments that have come to power following the Arab Spring?”
President Obama answered, “Well, I'd said even at the time that this is going to be a rocky path. The question presumes that somehow we could have stopped this wave of change. I think it was absolutely the right thing for us to do to align ourselves with democracy, universal rights-- a notion that-- people have- to be able to-- participate-- in-- their own governance. But I was pretty certain and continue to be pretty certain that there are going to be bumps in the road because-- you know, in a lot of these places-- the one organizing principle-- has been Islam. The one part of society that hasn't been controlled completely by the government. There are strains of extremism, and anti-Americanism, and anti-Western sentiment. And you know can be tapped into by demagogues. There will probably be some times where we bump up against some of these countries and have strong disagreements, but I do think that over the long term, we are more likely to get a Middle East and North Africa that is more peaceful, more prosperous and more aligned with our interests.”
Fuckng liar.
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Yes you are a fucking liar 333...
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George, you might be a complete idiot at this point. You can’t take the DX of a man’s symptoms (which is evidence of the ailment itself) and compare it to a situation where there is violence in a historically volatile region of the world that has about 200 different factors at play, and call them equal. That’s just dumb. Especially if the "evidence" is coming from a bunch of people that hate the person they are blaming already... you follow? c’mon this shit isn’t too hard.
Now if you can’t present any reasonable explanation of why you think "Obama is trying to collapse the nation via Middle East policies" or how... than youre the lazy one. It’s real easy to say "Obama=black so Obama=Bad" but I’m sorry... that weak as fuck to me. Until you get some facts, there isn’t a whole lot to go on.
Like I said, I can put formulate a thesis to try to explain phenomena, but that doesn’t make it fact. Shit, the bullshit some people spew on this page couldn’t even be considered a hypothesis because it can’t be tested, as it’s out of fucking thin air. I can say "ah haaaaa it was Ronald Reagans plan all along to make the inner-city low income communities more miserable via his funding of the Contras during the Iran Contra Affair by using proceeds from cocaine sells to fund the illegal operation that congress denied funding. The largest market for the cheap cocaine was low income areas and he knew blacks live in those areas so therefore Ronald Reagan is personally responsible for intentionally trying to destroy the black community in the inner cities"
You would look at that and say "Malcolm you’re a complete whack job" because there are a bunch of loose factors that I've strung together to come up with an unreasonable theory to explain the phenom of the crack epidemic in the inner-city... But that’s all it is... a bunch of shit put together.
And on the point about my criticisms of Obama and his early policies. I’ve stated for 3 years now my stances. I’ll do it again for you. Stim bill, not enough infrastructure spending. Gitmo, didn’t close it like he said he would, liar. DADT, at the time was still in effect. His federal stance on Weed, though I don’t smoke, there isn’t any evidence that says it’s even detrimental affects are worse than beer, and the evidence of its medicinal benefits (symptom easing) is overwhelming. Healthcare overhaul wasn’t far reaching enough in my POV as he tried to compromise instead of making it universal. Either shit or get off the pot. The bail out of the banks was pure shit.
Flexing Biceps
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Flexing Biceps
It's very admirable that you found something in this world that doesn't require you to consult MSNBC or your WWOD charm bracelet. You should spread the word to the rest of the brothers. Bicep Flexing is better than working, reading, learning basic math etc...
Keep fighting the good fight!
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It's very admirable that you found something in this world that doesn't require you to consult MSNBC or your WWOD charm bracelet. You should spread the word to the rest of the brothers. Bicep Flexing is better than working, reading, learning basic math etc...
Keep fighting the good fight!
Lol... That was a pretty weak comeback. Its always nice when you have to resort to Race shit for the cherry on top of your post. God Forbid you dispute the issue about proving a statement and leaving it at that. Lets go to an unrelated race jab because i have nothing.
Still Flexing Biceps
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Lol... That was a pretty weak comeback. Its always nice when you have to resort to Race shit for the cherry on top of your post. God Forbid you dispute the issue about proving a statement and leaving it at that. Lets go to an unrelated race jab because i have nothing.
Still Flexing Biceps
So you disgaree that Obama INTENTIONALLY collapsed the ME, yet his policies have resulted in the collapse of the ME regardless.
So you think its incompetence or reckless disregard for reality while I think its intentional.
Does it matter at all if the result is the same disastrous ending?
Just face it moron, your messiah destroyed the ME w his policies.
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So you disgaree that Obama INTENTIONALLY collapsed the ME, yet his policies have resulted in the collapse of the ME regardless.
So you think its incompetence or reckless disregard for reality while I think its intentional.
Does it matter at all if the result is the same disastrous ending?
Just face it moron, your messiah destroyed the ME w his policies.
All im saying you stupid fuck, is to look at the situation in its totality, Not one just one section and you start your Obama hatefest. So what policies are you talking about.. in Egypt where EGYPTIANS wanted the regime out of there... or the on in LIBYA where the government was KILLING LIBYANS... What are we talking about over here.. Like i said.. approach shit from full spectrum view.. not just the one where Obama looks bad... Be an adult
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All im saying you stupid fuck, is to look at the situation in its totality, Not one just one section and you start your Obama hatefest. So what policies are you talking about.. in Egypt where EGYPTIANS wanted the regime out of there... or the on in LIBYA where the government was KILLING LIBYANS... What are we talking about over here.. Like i said.. approach shit from full spectrum view.. not just the one where Obama looks bad... Be an adult
LOL. TYPICAL TYPICAL TYPICAL TYPICAL
Obama forced out mubarack and gadafi remember?
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LOL. TYPICAL TYPICAL TYPICAL TYPICAL
Obama forced out mubarack and gadafi remember?
Based on what..Did he just not like them?
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Based on what..Did he just not like them?
LOL!!!!
Again - based on my theory that obama was and is trying to install the MB into power across the ME to create a pan-arab islamist caliphate to rival the Euro zone and take over the oil and collapse israel.
Why didnt Obama seek the overthrow of Iran when the similiar uprising happened? Remember that - of course you don't because you go to madcow and comedians for news.
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LOL!!!!
Again - based on my theory that obama was and is trying to install the MB into power across the ME to create a pan-arab islamist caliphate to rival the Euro zone and take over the oil and collapse israel.
Why didnt Obama seek the overthrow of Iran when the similiar uprising happened? Remember that - of course you don't because you go to madcow and comedians for news.
Lol.. So its a theory now.. not proof as you touted in previous posts regarding the same topic.
And To ask "why didnt we get involved in this and that" Can be said about every situation in the world. There are factors that you 3333 and me Malcolm arent privy to that determine our nations military and diplomatic policies as it relates to the injustices a countries natives face. Just because you like to think you know everything about everything... you dont..
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Lol.. So its a theory now.. not proof as you touted in previous posts regarding the same topic.
And To ask "why didnt we get involved in this and that" Can be said about every situation in the world. There are factors that you 3333 and me Malcolm arent privy to that determine our nations military and diplomatic policies as it relates to the injustices a countries natives face. Just because you like to think you know everything about everything... you dont..
You think its what then?
Bad luck? lol
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You think its what then?
Bad luck? lol
Thats what my whole argument is. I dont tout my "theories" as "proof" (like your insanely biased ass),so i wait for proof. ITs just how i was raised and my profession as well. I have to be very fact based.
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Thats what my whole argument is. I dont tout my "theories" as "proof" (like your insanely biased ass),so i wait for proof. ITs just how i was raised and my profession as well. I have to be very fact based.
So your argument is that all of the failures surrounding anything obama touches is merely bad luck on his part?
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Lol... That was a pretty weak comeback. Its always nice when you have to resort to Race shit for the cherry on top of your post. God Forbid you dispute the issue about proving a statement and leaving it at that. Lets go to an unrelated race jab because i have nothing.
Still Flexing Biceps
I don't argue with morons in my spare time. I do enough of that during my day job. The last liberal who posted here with half a brain cell was Decker. He has been MIA since 2010. I would gladly argue with him. The rest of you aren't worth my time or energy.
As I said before, if you lack the intellectual curiosity and common sense to figure things out for yourself, then you'll remain a mindless drone regardless of what I post on here ( actually re-post, since its all here already). After 4 plus years of providing detailed evidence, I'm not going to connect the dots for you at this point.
As for the race thing-- lighten up you sissy. Take the angry black guy act to the third world board. I never let the possibility of offending someone stand in the way of a good joke. Are you also mad at Obama for not criminalizing humor?
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I don't argue with morons in my spare time. I do enough of that during my day job. The last liberal who posted here with half a brain cell was Decker. He has been MIA since 2010. I would gladly argue with him. The rest of you aren't worth my time or energy.
As I said before, if you lack the intellectual curiosity and common sense to figure things out for yourself, then you'll remain a mindless drone regardless of what I post on here ( actually re-post, since its all here already). After 4 plus years of providing detailed evidence, I'm not going to connect the dots for you at this point.
As for the race thing-- lighten up you sissy. Take the angry black guy act to the third world board. I never let the possibility of offending someone stand in the way of a good joke. Are you also mad at Obama for not criminalizing humor?
I wont act like i understand your POV. But when super biased parties ask me to "trust him" on his opinion, that he touts as fact... and i ask for some kind of smoking gun, the answer is , "connect the dots"...You idiot!!!1 youre the biased one placing the dots. And you can call me a idiot and say thats the reason you arent arguing with us but in fact you are, and when youre bested... you resort to... well bullshit. Now As ive always stated, i would join you in disagreeing with a lot of shit Obamas done. Just as you would agree Bush fucked some shit up to. But im not gonna play ball when you say "obama is the reason its a rainy day... see.. because he is in office...and its raining... itso facto.. its his fault.." Thats just dumb... Look at facts as a whole and take your hatred for everything Black and Obama out of it and then come up with a hypothesis. Until you do that. Saying... "its his fault and just go with me on this" just doesnt fly.
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I wont act like i understand your POV. But when super biased parties ask me to "trust him" on his opinion, that he touts as fact... and i ask for some kind of smoking gun, the answer is , "connect the dots"...You idiot!!!1 youre the biased one placing the dots. And you can call me a idiot and say thats the reason you arent arguing with us but in fact you are, and when youre bested... you resort to... well bullshit. Now As ive always stated, i would join you in disagreeing with a lot of shit Obamas done. Just as you would agree Bush fucked some shit up to. But im not gonna play ball when you say "obama is the reason its a rainy day... see.. because he is in office...and its raining... itso facto.. its his fault.." Thats just dumb... Look at facts as a whole and take your hatred for everything Black and Obama out of it and then come up with a hypothesis. Until you do that. Saying... "its his fault and just go with me on this" just doesnt fly.
LOL - same bullshit argument you make on every obama failure.
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LOL - same bullshit argument you make on every obama failure.
LOL.. NO..
Name one thing ive DEFENDED Obama on..
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You are discussing common sense and reality with a Neocon friend.
Your time would be better spent teaching your dog to do your taxes.
ROTFLMAO!!!! ;D
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All im saying you stupid fuck, is to look at the situation in its totality, Not one just one section and you start your Obama hatefest. So what policies are you talking about.. in Egypt where EGYPTIANS wanted the regime out of there... or the on in LIBYA where the government was KILLING LIBYANS... What are we talking about over here.. Like i said.. approach shit from full spectrum view.. not just the one where Obama looks bad... Be an adult
Sorry to but in here Option D, ...but Gaddafi wasn't killing Libyans. He was defending a government military base from armed Al Queda terrorists who had seized it. Him killing his own citizens was the excuse NATO used to attack his country, destroy his air force, and put their boogey men in charge. Now in order to rebuild any military defenses, Libyans must purchase from the 'military industrial complex'. I'm sure however that the new Rothschilds bank that has popped up in Libya since the murder of Gaddaffi will be more than happy to print money out of thin air and charge interest on it, so that the military industrial complex can make more profit on the destruction of yet another country, ...and stick American tax slaves taxpayers with the bill.
NATO stands for North Atlantic Treaty Organization Last I checked, neither Egypt, nor AlQueda were in the North Atlantic.
The real reason western countries wanted Gaddaffi gone, was because he was organizing Arab & African states to introduce the dinar, a new stable & tangible gold currency, and walk away from the Western Federal Reserve model printed out of thin air, that robs peoples & countries of their wealth. A fiat paper standard that is in the midst of implosion.
If 333's theory that Obama fought congress tooth & nail about imposing sanctions on Iran, ...then I have newfound respect for the POTUS. Removing Iran from the belgian based SWIFT mechanism was a shot in America's foot, and will only speed the demise of fiat paper. Now Iran is accepting GOLD for oil, an the world's largest gold producer is one of their biggest customers. And Indians... another big customer of Iran's... well we know how they feel about GOLD.
The Europeans might have to give up some of what little gold they have to get a bit more energy.
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Sorry to but in here Option D, ...but Gaddafi wasn't killing Libyans. He was defending a government military base from armed Al Queda terrorists who had seized it. Him killing his own citizens was the excuse NATO used to attack his country, destroy his air force, and put their boogey men in charge. Now in order to rebuild any military defenses, Libyans must purchase from the 'military industrial complex'. I'm sure however that the new Rothschilds bank that has popped up in Libya since the murder of Gaddaffi will be more than happy to print money out of thin air and charge interest on it, so that the military industrial complex can make more profit on the destruction of yet another country, ...and stick American tax slaves taxpayers with the bill.
NATO stands for North Atlantic Treaty Organization Last I checked, neither Egypt, nor AlQueda were in the North Atlantic.
The real reason western countries wanted Gaddaffi gone, was because he was organizing Arab & African states to introduce the dinar, a new stable & tangible gold currency, and walk away from the Western Federal Reserve model printed out of thin air, that robs peoples & countries of their wealth. A fiat paper standard that is in the midst of implosion.
If 333's theory that Obama fought congress tooth & nail about imposing sanctions on Iran, ...then I have newfound respect for the POTUS. Removing Iran from the belgian based SWIFT mechanism was a shot in America's foot, and will only speed the demise of fiat paper. Now Iran is accepting GOLD for oil, an the world's largest gold producer is one of their biggest customers. And Indians... another big customer of Iran's... well we know how they feel about GOLD.
The Europeans might have to give up some of what little gold they have to get a bit more energy.
AMAZING
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AMAZING
So you are going just w a consistent string of bad luck from Day1?
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So you are going just w a consistent string of bad luck from Day1?
what are you talking about
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LOL!!!!
Again - based on my theory that obama was and is trying to install the MB into power across the ME to create a pan-arab islamist caliphate to rival the Euro zone and take over the oil and collapse israel.
Why didnt Obama seek the overthrow of Iran when the similiar uprising happened? Remember that - of course you don't because you go to madcow and comedians for news.
Hahaha you are killing me. I love this board.
Its full of good jokes
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Who Is White House Visitor Hisham Altalib?
Townhall.com ^ | September 26, 2012 | Michelle Malkin
Posted on September 26, 2012 6:46:20 AM EDT by Kaslin
On Friday, March 30, 2012, Hisham Y. Altalib visited the White House. According to visitor logs, Altalib was received by Joshua DuBois, the director of President Obama's Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. Four days later, White House officials welcomed a foreign delegation of the radical Sharia-enforcing Muslim Brotherhood from Egypt.
The White House meeting with overseas Muslim Brotherhood leaders was reported in April by a few mainstream journalists and questioned loudly by conservative media. But the White House confab in March with U.S.-based Altalib -- which appears to be a prep session with the global Muslim Brotherhood's American advance team -- has received no attention until now.
So, who is Hisham Yahya Altalib? What is his agenda?
And why exactly did the Obama administration conduct domestic "faith-based" outreach with this Muslim Brotherhood figure in Virginia, who just happens to be 1) tied to bloody jihad and 2) a major contributor to the left-wing Center for Constitutional Rights, the group of jihadi-sympathizing lawyers who helped spring suspected Benghazi terror plotter Abu Sufian bin Qumu from Gitmo?
Altalib is an Iraqi-born Muslim identified by the FBI as a Muslim Brotherhood operative before he moved to America in the 1970s to earn an advanced electrical engineering degree from Purdue University in Indiana. By his own account, Altalib "soon became active in Islamic work in North America, which continues to this day."
He was the "first full-time director of the Leadership Training Department of the Muslim Students Association of the United States and Canada (MSA)" -- a longtime Muslim Brotherhood front group whose explicit goal is to "conquer" America through Islamic propagandizing.
Altalib is also a founding member of the SAAR Foundation and the International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT). Last year, his online biography proudly notes, he was "awarded the ISNA (Islamic Society of North America) Community Service Award." The Saudi-subsidized ISNA is regarded as the primary U.S. umbrella group for Muslim Brotherhood fronts and was named specifically by the global MB godfathers as a key player in their "Grand Jihad" strategy of infiltration from within.
SAAR was founded in Herndon, Va., in 1983 as part of a radical Islamic charity front for Saudi financiers called the SAFA Group. The feds raided SAAR's offices in 2002 as part of Operation Green Quest. Investigators confiscated 500 boxes and seven trucks' worth of documents illuminating the network's terror ties to the Al Taqwa Bank (a Swiss-based Muslim bank suspected of funding the 9/11 plot) and the Muslim Brotherhood.
Altalib worked for one of Al Taqwa Bank's main owners, Youssef Nada. Altalib's more prominent Muslim Brotherhood partner, Jamal Barzinji (one of the champions of the Ground Zero mosque), also worked for Nada. FBI and Customs officials believe SAAR/SAFA laundered money for a plethora of violent Muslim terrorist groups, from Hamas and Hezbollah to al-Qaida and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
Along with several other leaders of the "Ikhwan" (brothers), Altalib and Barzinji established the International Institute of Islamic Thought in Herndon, Va., in 1985. Global Muslim Brotherhood thug Yusuf al-Qaradawi -- the fire-breathing, fatwa-issuing Jew-hater and violent jihad proselytizer -- inspired IIIT's mission: the "Islamization of social sciences."
According to Steven Merley of the Hudson Institute's Center on Islam, Democracy, and the Future of the Muslim World, IIIT has 14 affiliated offices across the U.S., Europe, the Middle East and Asia. Former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy, who put 1993 World Trade Center bombing mastermind Omar Abdel Rahman behind bars, notes that IIIT was a demonstrated unindicted co-conspirator in the feds' Holy Land Foundation terror financing case. IIIT supported convicted terror aides Sami Al-Arian and Abdel Rahman Alamoudi.
Altalib, Barzinji and IIIT were also all listed in funding statements from the Center for Constitutional Rights as major donors giving in the $25,000 to $49,000 range.
CCR is the umbrella group providing more than 500 pro bono lawyers to Gitmo detainees. They have regularly dismissed national security concerns about Gitmo recidivism as "irresponsible ... scare stories." That's exactly what they did after one of CCR's clients, Libyan terror leader Abu Sufian bin Qumu, was sprung in 2007.
Fast-forward five short years. Qumu is now the lead suspect in the 9/11/12 attack on our U.S. consulate in Benghazi that resulted in the murders of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, consular official Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALs/private security contractors Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods. In the wake of this month's terrorist attacks on our Egyptian embassy, Libyan consulate and Afghan air base, the jihad helpers at CCR are stone silent.
This administration's idea of domestic "faith-based outreach" is tea with Muslim Brotherhood community organizers who have embedded themselves in American life for four decades with the express intent of "eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within." Meanwhile, our commander in chief is squawking to the world about YouTube videos. The Ikhwan are laughing their bloodstained robes off.
Eat shit morons. This is the scum inside the WH
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Three-Star General: Muslim Brotherhood Has Infiltrated Department of Defense
Thomas More Law Center ^ | September 25th, 2012
Posted on September 26, 2012 1:26:33 AM EDT by kingattax
U.S. Army Lieutenant General (Ret.) William "Jerry" Boykin, in a recent World Net Daily radio interview, confirmed that people with high security clearances connected to the Muslim Brotherhood hold important positions in every major federal agency including the Pentagon and the Department of Defense.
The Muslim Brotherhood is a radical Islamist organization that has vowed the destruction of America from within.
General Boykin has the credentials to back up his conclusions. He was one of the original members of the U.S. Army's Delta Force which he ultimately led in combat operations. He also served a tour in the CIA during which time he participated in clandestine operations throughout the world. He served his last four years in the Army as Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence.
Lt. Gen. Boykin, who currently serves as Executive Vice President of the Family Research Council, blasted Republicans for condemning Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., who sounded the alarm by questioning the Brotherhood ties of Huma Abedin, a top assistant to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Boykin said that neither Republicans nor Democrats want to protest too loudly over concerns of being branded intolerant.
The Thomas More Law Center now represents LTC Matthew Dooley, a 1994 graduate of the U. S. Military Academy at West Point.
GEN Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff had LTC Dooley fired as an instructor at the Joint Forces Staff College in order to appease Muslim groups and the White House who wanted all training materials offensive to Islam purged and all trainers using those materials disciplined.
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http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/06/15/Obama-DHS-Adviser-Inevitable-That-Caliphate-Returns
Bingo
The Islamic Caliphate forming as predicted.
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http://www.mercedsunstar.com/2014/07/24/3763979/us-and-islamic-state-we-did-see.html
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