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Title: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Alex23 on September 22, 2012, 09:03:13 AM
"Creationists" or "moon landing is a hoax" group?

I would say both equally but a choice must be made...

(http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2004/05/03/06may_lunarranging_resources/a14.jpg)


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: _bruce_ on September 22, 2012, 09:12:15 AM
Both have valid points if you don't take them at 100% face value.
I'd rather bash couples exhibiting convergence of diametrically opposed ethnic origins.  :)


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Alex23 on September 22, 2012, 09:12:45 AM
Both have valid points if you don't take them at 100% face value.
I'd rather bash couples exhibiting convergence of diametrically opposed ethnic origins.  :)

 ;D


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Shockwave on September 22, 2012, 09:12:57 AM
Both have valid points if you don't take them at 100% face value.
I'd rather bash couples exhibiting convergence of diametrically opposed ethnic origins.  :)
Zing.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Stefano on September 22, 2012, 09:19:43 AM
How about which of thrse groups are the stupidest

Conservatives or liberals. Conservatives seem to have a strong lead in stupidity nowadays.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: maxkane69 on September 22, 2012, 09:20:06 AM
THE STUPIDEST GROUP OF ALL TIME ARE : THE IDIOTS WHO ARGUE ON GETBIG ABOUT THE UPCOMING PRESIDENT ELECTION AND  WHO IS BETTER BETWEEN OBAMA AND ROMNEY !!! ;)


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: WOOO on September 22, 2012, 01:37:35 PM
all of the above


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: James28 on September 22, 2012, 01:52:05 PM
"Creationists" or "moon landing is a hoax" group?

I would say both equally but a choice must be made...

(http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2004/05/03/06may_lunarranging_resources/a14.jpg)

Creationist. A spirit spoke a few words and everything instantly appeared. You have to be pretty fucking dumb to even start to believe some of that hocus pocus.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Marty Champions on September 22, 2012, 02:50:37 PM
does anyone have a theory yet


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Marty Champions on September 22, 2012, 02:54:00 PM
whats the theory guys, you lead ill listen this time


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Marty Champions on September 22, 2012, 02:57:19 PM
im tired of being the go-to guy for these life answers you people gotta start coming up with your own shit or im deleting my account


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 22, 2012, 04:16:05 PM
The Shining Code---Kubrick FTW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2g-qvloXns


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Mattyh7688 on September 22, 2012, 04:32:20 PM
Can we throw the Muslims in there??


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Jizzacked on September 22, 2012, 04:36:38 PM
both display an equal amount of faggotry.  these sort of people are easily identified through a simple blood test.  one drop of their blood (faggit juice) is all that is needed.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: HTexan on September 22, 2012, 05:15:13 PM
world is flat people.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Marty Champions on September 22, 2012, 05:23:45 PM
The Shining Code---Kubrick FTW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2g-qvloXns

SUMMARY PLEASE STUD


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Alex23 on September 22, 2012, 05:50:35 PM
Creationist. A spirit spoke a few words and everything instantly appeared. You have to be pretty fucking dumb to even start to believe some of that hocus pocus.

Some solid points chief james. Well put


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: orion on September 23, 2012, 04:09:22 PM
I think the moon landing hoax might have some validity.  Some of the photographic evidence is suspect.  The cameras they were using all had a cross etched in the lens and some of the pics can easily be seen as having the cross obscured.  Nasa offers no explanation and dismisses such questions.  I'm not saying that they didn't eventually get to the moon but it is a known fact that the lunar lander was not ready for the first mission.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: haider on September 23, 2012, 04:14:59 PM
moon hoax

creationism may be acquired through indoctrination at an impressionable age. To believe the moon landing was a hoax you really have to make an effort of stupidity.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Man of Steel on September 23, 2012, 06:36:57 PM
easy....creationists.... .nuttin dummer then a Christian.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: tbombz on September 23, 2012, 06:54:22 PM
Creationist. A spirit spoke a few words and everything instantly appeared. You have to be pretty fucking dumb to even start to believe some of that hocus pocus.
as opposed to everything just instantly appearing WITHOUT a cause  ?  ;D


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Nirvana on September 23, 2012, 06:54:40 PM
People who thought 911 was a terrorist attack because the news said so.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: tbombz on September 23, 2012, 07:04:59 PM
People who thought 911 was a terrorist attack because the news said so.
as opposed to thinking it was a conspiracy because alex jones says so ?  ;D


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Man of Steel on September 23, 2012, 07:08:45 PM
Some solid points chief james. Well put

Those stupid Christians, right brah?!!


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: THEBOSS on September 23, 2012, 07:09:46 PM
 ;D   Nothing turning into everything is a gem ?


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: tbombz on September 23, 2012, 07:12:11 PM
;D   Nothing turning into everything is a gem ?
bro, its science.  ;D


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: MP on September 23, 2012, 07:39:31 PM
How about:
People who voted for Obama the first time in 2008
People planning to vote for him for a second time
People planning to vote for him for the first time in Nov.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: tbombz on September 23, 2012, 07:44:28 PM
markets dont regulate themselves, taxes and regulations might be dampers on the economy in the short term but in the long run they contribute to sustainability and progress in production of goods and services so long as the regulations are smart and the tax revenue spent on programs that boost productivity and consumption.. like education and food stamps..    on top of that,  obama is a pragmatic problem solver, cool under pressure, puts the country ahead of politics, has improved america's reputation abroad, and has been savagely aggressive in fighting al qaeda


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: THEBOSS on September 23, 2012, 07:48:33 PM
bro, its science.  ;D
:D  Yep . Nothing turned into science also .


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Ropo on September 23, 2012, 08:12:47 PM
easy....creationists.... .nuttin dummer then a Christian.

Try muslims..


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Ropo on September 23, 2012, 08:16:32 PM
People who thought 911 was a terrorist attack because the news said so.

people who thought 911 was some kind of evil conspiracy, because bunch of mentally ill imbeciles say so.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Man of Steel on September 23, 2012, 08:17:38 PM
Try muslims..

Nah brah, Christians fo shizzle.......dummerest of the dumhb.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: orion on September 23, 2012, 08:24:22 PM
Check out the angle of the shadows.  Suggests more than one light source.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: tbombz on September 23, 2012, 09:05:37 PM
:D  Yep . Nothing turned into science also .
SHIT HAPPENS! just does. get over it. aint no cause to nothing. not even your own personal choices. shit dont have no reason to it. boom!! bang!!! bam!!!! nothing but chaos up in this bitch!!!  what is seemingly order and unity, what seems like free will and spirit, all thats an illusion and you aint nothing but dirt and dirts nothing but shit !!!   ;D


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: THEBOSS on September 23, 2012, 09:11:54 PM
SHIT HAPPENS! just does. get over it. aint no cause to nothing. not even your own personal choices. shit dont have no reason to it. boom!! bang!!! bam!!!! nothing but chaos up in this bitch!!!  what is seemingly order and unity, what seems like free will and spirit, all thats an illusion and you aint nothing but dirt and dirts nothing but shit !!!   ;D
;D  And all that shit came from nothin ?


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: tbombz on September 23, 2012, 09:14:04 PM
shit came from nothing and shit aint shit but nothingness getting all fucked up for no reason like the no-good shit it is!!  ;D


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: THEBOSS on September 24, 2012, 04:50:44 AM
shit came from nothing and shit aint shit but nothingness getting all fucked up for no reason like the no-good shit it is!!  ;D
;D  lol


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: BigCyp on September 24, 2012, 04:54:05 AM
Nah brah, Christians fo shizzle.......dummerest of the dumhb.

Sounds like someone has backslidden.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Benny B on September 24, 2012, 06:26:51 AM
"Creationists" or "moon landing is a hoax" group?

I would say both equally but a choice must be made...

(http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2004/05/03/06may_lunarranging_resources/a14.jpg)
You don't come across as having much of an intellect yourself, stud.  :-\


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: snx on September 24, 2012, 06:41:36 AM
I'll take the moon hoax people.

It's conclusively proven that we did it (i.e. land on the moon). So when you're 100% wrong and still believe something, you're 100% stupid.

Creationists still have a vestige of hope in being right. I certainly don't believe it and no one I know does so I haven't even had a debate about it with anyone. But since science can't conclusively prove that god didn't blow air from his mighty nostrils and create everything we know...there's a remote chance they could be right. Therefore, since they aren't 100% wrong, they can't be 100% stupid. Close, but no cigar.

Moon hoax people take it.  


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Tito24 on September 24, 2012, 06:49:09 AM
alex jones has an annoying voice


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Ropo on September 24, 2012, 07:01:36 AM
Check out the angle of the shadows.  Suggests more than one light source.

Same here:http://www.canstockphoto.com/mans-long-shadow-in-desert-1606553.html (http://www.canstockphoto.com/mans-long-shadow-in-desert-1606553.html)

There must be more than one sun?


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: orion on September 24, 2012, 08:01:51 AM
Same here:http://www.canstockphoto.com/mans-long-shadow-in-desert-1606553.html (http://www.canstockphoto.com/mans-long-shadow-in-desert-1606553.html)

There must be more than one sun?

???  I'm saying the shadows should all be parallel and in the moon pics they are not.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Man of Steel on September 24, 2012, 08:10:17 AM
Sounds like someone has backslidden.

I believe my approach is referred to as sarcasm, but I'm a mere Christian so a more developed, evolved mind would need to confirm that for me.

Then again, Christians are hypocritical believers following a hypocritical God so......


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: 2ND COMING on September 24, 2012, 08:27:38 AM
both display an equal amount of faggotry.

LOL


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Nirvana on September 24, 2012, 06:24:03 PM
people who thought 911 was some kind of evil conspiracy, because bunch of mentally ill imbeciles say so.
not conspiracies, facts.

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: polychronopolous on September 24, 2012, 06:27:15 PM
Check out the angle of the shadows.  Suggests more than one light source.

Say that to Buzz Aldrin's face and see what the fuck happens.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Ropo on September 24, 2012, 09:23:18 PM
???  I'm saying the shadows should all be parallel and in the moon pics they are not.

And that should be so in the earth also, but look at the picture? Shadows has at least three different angle, like in the picture from the moon.  Here is another example: (http://www.frc.ri.cmu.edu/sunsync/data/experimentImages/Select/18Jul01.myShadow1.jpg)

It is called perspective distortion and you can read about it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_(photography) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_(photography))

What comes to these conspiracy theories, I have study them little bit, and all the amazing secrets what they show to you is just like this. They point out an uncommon effect and show it to the ordinary folks, who look it without any understanding about the subject, so it is miracle for them. Anyone who has little bit of knowledge about anything will see what it is all about, but like this example, you have to know something about photographing to understand the pictures. When you peal all the lies away, the main argument against the moon landings is simple: I don't believe it happen. There isn't any real evidence to back up that argument, so they have to invent some, and this is the outcome from that. Picture, taken in the moon which have perspective distortion because it really is taken in the moon, is evidence that it has been taken in the studio with multiple light source.  


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: OTHstrong on September 24, 2012, 09:37:25 PM
And that should be so in the earth also, but look at the picture? Shadows has at least three different angle, like in the picture from the moon.  Here is another example: (http://www.frc.ri.cmu.edu/sunsync/data/experimentImages/Select/18Jul01.myShadow1.jpg)

It is called perspective distortion and you can read about it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_(photography) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_(photography))

What comes to these conspiracy theories, I have study them little bit, and all the amazing secrets what they show to you is just like this. They point out an uncommon effect and show it to the ordinary folks, who look it without any understanding about the subject, so it is miracle for them. Anyone who has little bit of knowledge about anything will see what it is all about, but like this example, you have to know something about photographing to understand the pictures. When you peal all the lies away, the main argument against the moon landings is simple: I don't believe it happen. There isn't any real evidence to back up that argument, so they have to invent some, and this is the outcome from that. Picture, taken in the moon which have perspective distortion because it really is taken in the moon, is evidence that it has been taken in the studio with multiple light source.  
I see them all in the same direction here. It`s an illusion on your behalf, you see the elongated shadows look like lines being cast from the side of the pic but upon careful inspection you will find that it is a elongated object casting the shadow still in the same direction, not the same as the moon pic


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Ropo on September 24, 2012, 09:59:56 PM
not conspiracies, facts.

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646

Sorry about this, but there is not even one real fact to back up those fairy tales and bullshit which that so called truth.org spreads. For example, they try to make you believe that there was controlled demolition on WTC 1 & 2. While we know that all explosives are based on chemical reaction, which chemicals can be stored in 1000C(1832F) open fire up to 56 minutes, and they still work properly? There isn't such chemical, they all have different reactions to the fire. How about detonation cord? How that can stand in fire? It can't. In fact, there is no way in hell to attach explosives in the space where will be massive plane crash and fire. They also lie to you that burning kerosene will rise the temperature only up to 300C(572F), but if kerosene has so little energy in it, how the fuck they can fly aeroplanes with it? In real world it has enough energy to rise the temperature up to 1500C(2732F) in open space, so there is 1200C(2192F) gap between their truth and real truth. How the hell this happen? Just because they have to lie to back up their story. Name one (1) real physical evidence which back up their conspiracy theory? You can't, because there isn't even that single one. There is only claims, faked pictures and videos, which has nothing to do with truth.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Ropo on September 24, 2012, 10:09:20 PM
I see them all in the same direction here. It`s an illusion on your behalf, you see the elongated shadows look like lines being cast from the side of the pic but upon careful inspection you will find that it is a elongated object casting the shadow still in the same direction, not the same as the moon pic

Well, if you don't understand what you see, I can't help. Do you really think that the phenomenon is same in our atmosphere, and in the moon where isn't atmosphere at all? Air has it's role regarding how the light bends in the earth, so how about if there isn't any? What will be the amount of perspective correction outside the earth?


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Radical Plato on September 25, 2012, 03:20:57 AM
The Muslims!


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Jaime on September 25, 2012, 03:45:22 AM
as opposed to everything just instantly appearing WITHOUT a cause  ?  ;D


As opposed to your bearded floating spirit thingy instantly appearing without a cause?


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: PJim on September 25, 2012, 04:16:54 AM
The Shining Code---Kubrick FTW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2g-qvloXns

Every notice how "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" is "A11 (apollo 11) work and no play makes Jack a dull boy."?
Go watch Rob Ager's film analysis or buy his very reasonably priced DVDs off youtube. BY FAR the best stuff out there.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: jprc10 on September 25, 2012, 07:28:08 AM
Long read (8 parts), but worth it for a different take on the "moon landings".

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/Apollo1.html



Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: jprc10 on September 25, 2012, 07:44:49 AM
not conspiracies, facts.

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Nirvana on September 25, 2012, 07:29:38 PM
Sorry about this, but there is not even one real fact to back up those fairy tales and bullshit which that so called truth.org spreads. For example, they try to make you believe that there was controlled demolition on WTC 1 & 2. While we know that all explosives are based on chemical reaction, which chemicals can be stored in 1000C(1832F) open fire up to 56 minutes, and they still work properly? There isn't such chemical, they all have different reactions to the fire. How about detonation cord? How that can stand in fire? It can't. In fact, there is no way in hell to attach explosives in the space where will be massive plane crash and fire. They also lie to you that burning kerosene will rise the temperature only up to 300C(572F), but if kerosene has so little energy in it, how the fuck they can fly aeroplanes with it? In real world it has enough energy to rise the temperature up to 1500C(2732F) in open space, so there is 1200C(2192F) gap between their truth and real truth. How the hell this happen? Just because they have to lie to back up their story. Name one (1) real physical evidence which back up their conspiracy theory? You can't, because there isn't even that single one. There is only claims, faked pictures and videos, which has nothing to do with truth.
no building had ever fallen from a plane impact until 911.  modern advanced building.

please tell why WTC 7 went down if you even know what that is. also explain the other top 39 reasons to doubt the official story.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 25, 2012, 09:04:15 PM
Every notice how "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" is "A11 (apollo 11) work and no play makes Jack a dull boy."?
Go watch Rob Ager's film analysis or buy his very reasonably priced DVDs off youtube. BY FAR the best stuff out there.

Yes Kubrick using a 1 for the L's is pretty wild when you take into account all the other codes. There is no other reason to use a 1 for l(lowercase)


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: tbombz on September 25, 2012, 09:06:36 PM

As opposed to your bearded floating spirit thingy instantly appearing without a cause?
;)


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Ropo on September 26, 2012, 10:54:54 PM
no building had ever fallen from a plane impact until 911.  modern advanced building.

please tell why WTC 7 went down if you even know what that is. also explain the other top 39 reasons to doubt the official story.

This is the basic argument what you get from those guys, so let see whats wrong in it? No building has fallen from the plane crash? That is truth and do you know why? Because not even one building has have plane crash at that height and with that magnitude. What that means is you can't have any knowledge about this kind of happening, and you can't have any kind of previous knowledge how it should go down. There is old joke about the russian ass buzzer, which have two features: it doesn't buzz and it doesn't fit in any ass. Have you seen one? How do you know how it looks? You imagine it. Just like you imagine how WTC should look when it goes down.

What comes to WTC7, it went down  because WTC2 collapse against it and destroy the facade side of the building. When you look video about the collapse, try to find one which has collapse of the penthouse of the WTC7 in it. Claim about the super fast collapse is based on the fake video, which does not include collapse of the penthouse. In true world, facade and the penthouse went down seconds before of the collapse what they show you in the truth.org- fake videos.

Top one reason doubt the conspiracy theory is simple. There isn't any kind of explosives which are capable of performing the following three points:

1. it must have enough energy to cut core columns, which are massive steel structures
2. it has to be in inferno up to one hour and detonate without any problems
3. it can't show any marks of explosion, no blast wave, no pressure, no air burst over the speed of 500 m/s

Why? Because there isn't any real video material which have any evidence about the explosions.  When you detonate the explosives, immediate result is the blast wave, which goes at the speed of 1000-14000m/s depending which explosives you have used. That is one hell of the blast and it would be visible in those circumstances at the WTC, but there isn't any sign of that, and that means there wasn't any explosions. And if there isn't any explosions, there can't be any conspiracy, because it is based on the explosions which bring the towers down. No such explosives, no explosion, not any detonation cord which you can put in fire, no any means to accomplish this task, so it is impossible.  

When you look videos about the happening you see that when tower start to collapse there is only few broken windows. What kind on explosion leave windows of the building intact? Furthermore, there was a great pile of debris after the collapse, and in that pile, there wasn't even a single pylon, which show marks of the explosion. There wasn't any sign of any kind of explosion anywhere, so could there still be blasting demolition? No way in hell.  In blasting demolitions they use lots of protective mats to prevent shards flying everywhere. Those mats are big and heavy, and you can't hide them in the structures of the house. This is only way to prevent shards to fly, but even this can't hold the pressure wave. How many of these mats has recovered from the ruins? Not even single one, which means there wasn't any. All this is based on real facts and the real evidence, so what you have in the bottom line? Controlled demolition of the WTC 1 & 2 is impossible mission and there isn't any real evidense to confirm it happen, so claims about it happen must be lies. So simple. If you don't agree, name one (1) explosive which can be hold on 1000C/1820 F fire up to one hour and it will detonate after that. You can't, because there isn't such thing.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Radical Plato on September 27, 2012, 12:03:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQgVCj7q49o

This is the full 2 hour version of the original dvd "Blueprint for Truth-The Architecture of Destruction". In 2 hours Richard Gage, AIA of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth takes you through most of the scientific forensic evidence proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the destruction of WTC was accomplished with explosive controlled demolition.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: orion on September 27, 2012, 07:43:10 AM
Say that to Buzz Aldrin's face and see what the fuck happens.

Pretty sure I could take Buzz Aldrin. ;D


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: orion on September 27, 2012, 07:46:08 AM
And that should be so in the earth also, but look at the picture? Shadows has at least three different angle, like in the picture from the moon.  Here is another example: (http://www.frc.ri.cmu.edu/sunsync/data/experimentImages/Select/18Jul01.myShadow1.jpg)

It is called perspective distortion and you can read about it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_(photography) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_(photography))

What comes to these conspiracy theories, I have study them little bit, and all the amazing secrets what they show to you is just like this. They point out an uncommon effect and show it to the ordinary folks, who look it without any understanding about the subject, so it is miracle for them. Anyone who has little bit of knowledge about anything will see what it is all about, but like this example, you have to know something about photographing to understand the pictures. When you peal all the lies away, the main argument against the moon landings is simple: I don't believe it happen. There isn't any real evidence to back up that argument, so they have to invent some, and this is the outcome from that. Picture, taken in the moon which have perspective distortion because it really is taken in the moon, is evidence that it has been taken in the studio with multiple light source.  

Perhaps I didn't state it correctly, check out the shadow of the lunar lander, it is going west to east, now check out the shadow on the astronaut taking the pic, it is going north to south.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Nirvana on September 27, 2012, 01:18:19 PM
This is the basic argument what you get from those guys, so let see whats wrong in it? No building has fallen from the plane crash? That is truth and do you know why? Because not even one building has have plane crash at that height and with that magnitude. What that means is you can't have any knowledge about this kind of happening, and you can't have any kind of previous knowledge how it should go down. There is old joke about the russian ass buzzer, which have two features: it doesn't buzz and it doesn't fit in any ass. Have you seen one? How do you know how it looks? You imagine it. Just like you imagine how WTC should look when it goes down.

What comes to WTC7, it went down  because WTC2 collapse against it and destroy the facade side of the building. When you look video about the collapse, try to find one which has collapse of the penthouse of the WTC7 in it. Claim about the super fast collapse is based on the fake video, which does not include collapse of the penthouse. In true world, facade and the penthouse went down seconds before of the collapse what they show you in the truth.org- fake videos.

Top one reason doubt the conspiracy theory is simple. There isn't any kind of explosives which are capable of performing the following three points:

1. it must have enough energy to cut core columns, which are massive steel structures
2. it has to be in inferno up to one hour and detonate without any problems
3. it can't show any marks of explosion, no blast wave, no pressure, no air burst over the speed of 500 m/s

Why? Because there isn't any real video material which have any evidence about the explosions.  When you detonate the explosives, immediate result is the blast wave, which goes at the speed of 1000-14000m/s depending which explosives you have used. That is one hell of the blast and it would be visible in those circumstances at the WTC, but there isn't any sign of that, and that means there wasn't any explosions. And if there isn't any explosions, there can't be any conspiracy, because it is based on the explosions which bring the towers down. No such explosives, no explosion, not any detonation cord which you can put in fire, no any means to accomplish this task, so it is impossible.  

When you look videos about the happening you see that when tower start to collapse there is only few broken windows. What kind on explosion leave windows of the building intact? Furthermore, there was a great pile of debris after the collapse, and in that pile, there wasn't even a single pylon, which show marks of the explosion. There wasn't any sign of any kind of explosion anywhere, so could there still be blasting demolition? No way in hell.  In blasting demolitions they use lots of protective mats to prevent shards flying everywhere. Those mats are big and heavy, and you can't hide them in the structures of the house. This is only way to prevent shards to fly, but even this can't hold the pressure wave. How many of these mats has recovered from the ruins? Not even single one, which means there wasn't any. All this is based on real facts and the real evidence, so what you have in the bottom line? Controlled demolition of the WTC 1 & 2 is impossible mission and there isn't any real evidense to confirm it happen, so claims about it happen must be lies. So simple. If you don't agree, name one (1) explosive which can be hold on 1000C/1820 F fire up to one hour and it will detonate after that. You can't, because there isn't such thing.
and now for the other 39 reasons.  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=442153.msg6330345#msg6330345  also join here and explain


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Ropo on September 27, 2012, 10:07:56 PM
and now for the other 39 reasons.  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=442153.msg6330345#msg6330345  also join here and explain

You don't need 39 reasons so see, that the so called "truth org" is full of shit. As I say, there isn't any kind of explosives which you could use environment like in WTC towers after the plane crash, so controlled demolition by explosives must be lie = there goes your conspiracy down the drain. You poor stupid doesn't understand that if the main argument is lie, all arguments depending to it must be also lies. 


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Radical Plato on September 27, 2012, 10:36:34 PM
You don't need 39 reasons so see, that the so called "truth org" is full of shit. As I say, there isn't any kind of explosives which you could use environment like in WTC towers after the plane crash, so controlled demolition by explosives must be lie = there goes your conspiracy down the drain. You poor stupid doesn't understand that if the main argument is lie, all arguments depending to it must be also lies.  
The explosives were planted prior to the plane hitting the building.  George W. Bush's brother was on the board of directors of a company providing electronic security for the World Trade Center. That there were well documented power outages and swaths of whole floor shutdowns and evacuations in the weeks leading up to 9/11, perfect opportunities to carry up and plant necessary explosives under the guise of 'maintenance' and/or 'retrofitting' work, only fuels well-placed suspicions. In a People magazine article, Ben Fountain, 42, a financial analyst with Fireman's Fund who worked on the 47th floor of the South Tower, confirmed these evacuations by saying, "How could they let this happen? They knew this building was a target. Over the past few weeks we'd been evacuated a number of times, which is unusual. I think they had an inkling something was going on."  If you watch this documentary created by professionals and not crack pots, it details how easily this could have been done (starting at 1:07:06)  Their will always be people who blindly accept what their governments tell them to do, because this is precisely what Governments train their citizens to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQgVCj7q49o

I'm not saying I know the Truth, but it doesn't take Einstein to work out that what the Government is saying is deeply flawed science.  Also Governments have a history of False Flag operations utilised to enter into Conflicts or to promote a hidden agenda.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Ropo on September 28, 2012, 01:14:35 AM

The explosives were planted prior to the plane hitting the building.  George W. Bush's brother was on the board of directors of a company providing electronic security for the World Trade Center. That there were well documented power outages and swaths of whole floor shutdowns and evacuations in the weeks leading up to 9/11, perfect opportunities to carry up and plant necessary explosives under the guise of 'maintenance' and/or 'retrofitting' work, only fuels well-placed suspicions. In a People magazine article, Ben Fountain, 42, a financial analyst with Fireman's Fund who worked on the 47th floor of the South Tower, confirmed these evacuations by saying, "How could they let this happen? They knew this building was a target. Over the past few weeks we'd been evacuated a number of times, which is unusual. I think they had an inkling something was going on."  If you watch this documentary created by professionals and not crack pots, it details how easily this could have been done (starting at 1:07:06)  Their will always be people who blindly accept what their governments tell them to do, because this is precisely what Governments train their citizens to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQgVCj7q49o

I'm not saying I know the Truth, but it doesn't take Einstein to work out that what the Government is saying is deeply flawed science.  Also Governments have a history of False Flag operations utilised to enter into Conflicts or to promote a hidden agenda.

Planted before plane hitting the building? And you doesn't see any problems with that? Planted, exactly how? How do they know how to plant those explosives, so they doesn't detonate or brake down when plane hit the building? We have all seen how the collapse start from the floor where plane hit, so the demolition explosives must be present in that space. How? They can't know exactly where the plane will hit and how much damage it will do, so how the hell they can plant explosives there? And fire after the hit last 56 minutes, so name one explosive which can be in fire that time and it is still working?  There isn't any. You are believer of stupid bullshit, and if you think about these facts, you know I am right.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: OzmO on September 28, 2012, 06:06:02 AM
I would say Moonbots are stupidest.  Because thier belief is based on argument over evidence where as creationist beliefs are based on faith in spite of evidence. 

Generally all CT is argument based.  They use argument  as the basis of evidence where as practical people use evidence as th basis for argument.


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Ropo on September 28, 2012, 10:10:15 AM
Perhaps I didn't state it correctly, check out the shadow of the lunar lander, it is going west to east, now check out the shadow on the astronaut taking the pic, it is going north to south.

What should be checked out is your medication. Ok, your argument is that there is more than one light source? Please explain how there is only one shadow per object? Multiple light source = as many shadows as there is light sources. If you need to know more, look at this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnrPaz3xFIg


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Nirvana on September 28, 2012, 10:27:48 PM
are you saying that getting "attacked" by Afghanistan and then retaliating for it against Iraqistan is illogical?


Title: Re: Which of the two groups is the stupidest?
Post by: Alex23 on October 01, 2012, 07:54:12 PM
Science = always prevails.

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