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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/27/obama-ad-new-economic-patriotism_n_1918569.html
LMFAO!!!!
TOTAL FAIL.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/27/obama-ad-new-economic-patriotism_n_1918569.html
LMFAO!!!!
TOTAL FAIL.
Don't see anything wrong with that ad. In fact, its actually a great ad. Romney needs to get up front and personal just like this.
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Don't see anything wrong with that ad. In fact, its actually a great ad. Romney needs to get up front and personal just like this.
Yeah - other than its pure bullshit for dolts like yourself.
Why didnt he do this magical plan when he got into office and had two years of demo majorities?
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"The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents – #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic"
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More class warfare bullshit, is that what this country has come to? Get to be the POTUS by demonizing success?
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More class warfare bullshit, is that what this country has come to? Get to be the POTUS by demonizing success?
You dont understand shit about capitalism.
Causing a deficit is not succes.
Try going into the office of your Boss tell him you have run a huge deficit and when you are fired just scream he is punishing succes.
WTF are you talking about??? Are you a Neocon parrot??
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You dont understand shit about capitalism.
Causing a deficit is not succes.
Try going into the office of your Boss tell him you have run a huge deficit and when you are fired just scream he is punishing succes.
WTF are you talking about??? Are you a Neocon parrot??
I don't understand shit about capitalism?
What the fuck does the government running this country into the fucking ground have to do with capitalism? If a company was run like the government it would be out of fucking business, of course unless your to big to fail, then the government takes part ownership, again not fucking capitalism.
Are you a retard? You just buy any BS Obama says as the gospel truth? Fucker has had 4 years to do something, come up with a plan
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man the country is the way it is because of the top 1%, how doesn't anyone see it? They make record profits as unemployment skyrockets, ya real job creators.
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man the country is the way it is because of the top 1%, how doesn't anyone see it? They make record profits as unemployment skyrockets, ya real job creators.
Yeah and I can tell you where to find 535 of them. We have a ruling class in this country, and we have no one but our selves to blame for allowing it to happen
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I don't understand shit about capitalism?
What the fuck does the government running this country into the fucking ground have to do with capitalism? If a company was run like the government it would be out of fucking business, of course unless your to big to fail, then the government takes part ownership, again not fucking capitalism.
Are you a retard? You just buy any BS Obama says as the gospel truth? Fucker has had 4 years to do something, come up with a plan
Nope you dont understand shit about capitalism only the version FOX news has fed you.
Succes is NOT running a huge deficit.
I suggest you get a job otherwise you wont understand this.
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Nope you dont understand shit about capitalism only the version FOX news has fed you.
Succes is NOT running a huge deficit.
I suggest you get a job otherwise you wont understand this.
Ironic coming from the guy who posts here all day.
You didn't actually refute anything he said, you fucking retard. Get a job, get an education and shut the fuck up, gimmick.
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Ironic coming from the guy who posts here all day.
You didn't actually refute anything he said, you fucking retard. Get a job, get an education and shut the fuck up, gimmick.
I live here?
Do i really need to post your posts vs mine again loser?
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Nope you dont understand shit about capitalism only the version FOX news has fed you.
Succes is NOT running a huge deficit.
I suggest you get a job otherwise you wont understand this.
I suggest you go fuck yourself I have been working since I was 13 years old, paper route......... I understand capitalism just fine. Who the fuck said success was running a huge deficit? If that is your measure of success then the government should get a fucking grade of Z because F doesn't do it justice.
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Here is obama's form of Patriotism
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I suggest you go fuck yourself I have been working since I was 13 years old, paper route......... I understand capitalism just fine. Who the fuck said success was running a huge deficit? If that is your measure of success then the government should get a fucking grade of Z because F doesn't do it justice.
You didi a few posts up thats why i responded
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You didi a few posts up thats why i responded
Please point out where I said running a huge deficit = success
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Please point out where I said running a huge deficit = success
Your reply to Obama bashing Bush for a failed economy:
"More class warfare bullshit, is that what this country has come to? Get to be the POTUS by demonizing success? "
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its only patriotic when its other ppls money, right libtards?
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its only patriotic when its other ppls money, right libtards?
our tax money help build the infrastructure they used to become rich, why the fuck shouldn't they pay the exact same? It's percentage based, they utilize the things others money went towards then expect benefits when they reach their goal? wtf kinda backwards thinking is that? If someone helped me I would sure as hell help them up when I made it, nothing wrong with helping others when it's due. It's due, they record more profits then ever while cutting jobs and hours, hording money offshore, outsourcing all while using our infrastructure to do so.
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Your reply to Obama bashing Bush for a failed economy:
"More class warfare bullshit, is that what this country has come to? Get to be the POTUS by demonizing success? "
Well it is, blame, blame, blame hey Barack you wanted to be the man act like it. Since the Obama took office he has done nothing by try to divide the nation. War on women....... It's all about divide on conquer.
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our tax money help build the infrastructure they used to become rich, why the fuck shouldn't they pay the exact same? It's percentage based, they utilize the things others money went towards then expect benefits when they reach their goal? wtf kinda backwards thinking is that? If someone helped me I would sure as hell help them up when I made it, nothing wrong with helping others when it's due. It's due, they record more profits then ever while cutting jobs and hours, hording money offshore, outsourcing all while using our infrastructure to do so.
You know what that's all fine and good, but the government writes the tax code. Congress, POTUS ="the rich".
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You know what that's all fine and good, but the government writes the tax code. Congress, POTUS ="the rich".
Funny how dolts like Necrosis just completely ignore the fact that obama and his fellow communists could have done anything in the 1st two years and didnt do shit like what they claim now.
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its only patriotic when its other ppls money, right libtards?
Please stop your brainwashed slogans its pathetic
Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.
- Oscar Wilde
This is you buddy sorry
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Please stop your brainwashed slogans its pathetic
Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.
- Oscar Wilde
This is you buddy sorry
STFU troll. You have become the dumbest poster on this site.
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STFU troll. You have become the dumbest poster on this site.
NO thats your job ;)
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Well it is, blame, blame, blame hey Barack you wanted to be the man act like it. Since the Obama took office he has done nothing by try to divide the nation. War on women....... It's all about divide on conquer.
Obama divides the nation?
Please tell me you are kidding ???
Compared to FOX and conservative media he is a fucking saint.
You are seriously ignorant
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our tax money help build the infrastructure they used to become rich, why the fuck shouldn't they pay the exact same? It's percentage based, they utilize the things others money went towards then expect benefits when they reach their goal? wtf kinda backwards thinking is that? If someone helped me I would sure as hell help them up when I made it, nothing wrong with helping others when it's due. It's due, they record more profits then ever while cutting jobs and hours, hording money offshore, outsourcing all while using our infrastructure to do so.
No rich people like Romney built it himself with his bare hands. ( From France mind you quite an accomplishment)
Rich people also fought all the wars and everything else that made this country great. (Rich people seldom serve but never mind facts)
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You know what that's all fine and good, but the government writes the tax code. Congress, POTUS ="the rich".
And?
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Obama divides the nation?
Please tell me you are kidding ???
Compared to FOX and conservative media he is a fucking saint.
You are seriously ignorant
Oh fucking please since he has been in office there is always a war on <insert gender or race here>
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Oh fucking please since he has been in office there is always a war on <insert gender or race here>
Delusional incompetents that are the obama base of voters are blind to reality.
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Oh fucking please since he has been in office there is always a war on <insert gender or race here>
You mean the guy his republican opponents has called terrorist, muslim, in beds with AQ, commie with intent to destroy the nation socialist always has a war on something? ::)
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Delusional incompetents that are the obama base of voters are blind to reality.
You mean the reality that Obama is really an AQ commie spy?
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And?
Do you really think they are going to do anything to impact their own wealth? For cripe sake look at the medical, retirement........... plans they vote themselves. The Dems and Reps have monopolized the elections, set them selves up as the ruling class. The only thing that keeps these bastards in office forever is dividing and having the subjects fighting among themselves. This keeps our eye's off of them while they slowly steal or wealth and take away our freedoms. Fuck look at the NDAA, unconstitutional as the day is long, are we discussing that? No we are arguing over who said what about Libya, or the latest comment by either side. All fucking distraction from the real problem, the corrupt government as a whole. The media is complicit in this, Fox, MSNBC, CNN, all guilty. They just play a different side of the same coin. Why do we have all these "social" programs? 2 reasons, 1 to buy votes and 2 to keep the parasites of society appeased because otherwise they would be out committing crimes to get the $. We are not so different to any other country is that aspect, except in our case we blame the other party instead of another country for our problems. The government stopped representing the people along time ago and simply do what they want. Who is to blame for this? We are, we let it happen and have done nothing to stop it. There are 300 Million of us and 535 of them, the odds should be heavily stacked in our favor.
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You mean the guy his republican opponents has called terrorist, muslim, in beds with AQ, commie with intent to destroy the nation socialist always has a war on something? ::)
Here we go again, you just can't let go of the party bullshit can you? Bush was called everything under the sun by dems........... Keep the party line, when in reality they are all the same except for a few issues that have little bearing on the health of the nation
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Obama's Recovery Is A Sham, And The Numbers Show It [US In "Growth Recession"]
InvestorsBusiness Daily ^ | September 27, 2012
Posted on Friday, September 28, 2012 11:05:50
Obama's Recovery Is A Sham, And The Numbers Show It
09/27/2012
Economy: As President Obama touts his "New Economic Patriotism" (see below), fresh data show just how badly his policies have failed. The old saying "patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels" also applies to the economy.
The final revision for the second quarter is in, and it isn't pretty: GDP grew at a yearly rate of just 1.3%, not 1.7% as earlier estimated. Worse, durable goods orders plunged 13.2% in August, the biggest drop since the recession and an ominous sign the second half will be just as bad.
Pundits and economists have noted recently the economy is in danger of slipping back into recession. But they miss the point: It already is in recession. GDP growth of 1.6% in the first half of 2012 was abysmal, coming as it does more than two years after the recession officially ended in June 2009.
Economists broadly agree that to create jobs and raise standards of living, GDP must grow at a minimum of 2.5% or so. If the economy expands less than that for a prolonged period, it's a "growth recession." That's exactly where we are today.
The "recovery" Obama touts has featured GDP growth of 2.2% on average. There are today 261,000 fewer payroll jobs than when Obama took office — no growth at all and not even close to the 150,000 needed each month to sop up new entrants into the workforce.
Because of President Obama's reckless economic policies — out-of-control spending, a regulatory surge, the threat of a trillion-dollar tax hike, ObamaCare and $5 trillion in new debt — we're in deep trouble.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...
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The GOP are mainly there for entertainment value. Unfortunately a large proportion of the American population are dim and don't see the funny side.
All an American politician has to do is mention how great their country was before the previous president, promise those good days will come again, end with "We're taking the White House back", "god bless America" and the crowd go nuts. Clapping wildly, arms flailing about, cheering, whooping.
Fucking idiots, the lot of them.
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The GOP are mainly there for entertainment value. Unfortunately a large proportion of the American population are dim and don't see the funny side.
All an American politician has to do is mention how great their country was before the previous president, promise those good days will come again, end with "We're taking the White House back", "god bless America" and the crowd go nuts. Clapping wildly, arms flailing about, cheering, whooping.
Fucking idiots, the lot of them.
Yeah things going great in detroit, camden, chicago, etc.
::) ::) ::)
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Yeah things going great in detroit, camden, chicago, etc.
::) ::) ::)
You made peace yet with the fact that Obama is going to be your president until 2016?
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You made peace yet with the fact that Obama is going to be your president until 2016?
LOL - even if he wins what did you stupid 94ers get out it? a free phone?
Typical - just like when you stupid fucks cheered the OJ verdict.
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LOL - even if he wins what did you stupid 94ers get out it? a free phone?
Typical - just like when you stupid fucks cheered the OJ verdict.
Apart from the fact that I'm not American and couldn't give a fuck if Obama and Romney died in a car crash or execution this weekend.
So no dickhead, there's nothing in this for me, no phone either :-X
OJ, guilty as charged.
See pal, I call it how I see it. And the whole world sees it.
Obama > Romney
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our tax money help build the infrastructure they used to become rich, why the fuck shouldn't they pay the exact same? It's percentage based, they utilize the things others money went towards then expect benefits when they reach their goal? wtf kinda backwards thinking is that? If someone helped me I would sure as hell help them up when I made it, nothing wrong with helping others when it's due. It's due, they record more profits then ever while cutting jobs and hours, hording money offshore, outsourcing all while using our infrastructure to do so.
by that same idiotic logic, I guess me and you are also partly responsible for all the bad shit ppl use public road for now?
we contribute to drug trafficing, murders, terrorism as well...maybe we should all be locked up?
hey moron, we all have the same ability to go out and make money. If its so fucking easy why dont you go do it and then donate all your earnings?
why do you feel entitled to someone elses hard earned money?
you didnt fucking help them by paying taxes moron
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Please stop your brainwashed slogans its pathetic
Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.
- Oscar Wilde
This is you buddy sorry
nice try retard, tell me how taxing rich ppl is going to make your life better?
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Bump for a response from the libtards...
are we responsible for the bad shit that happens as a result of govt paid shit?
how is your life going to be better with higher taxes on the "rich"?
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Do you really think they are going to do anything to impact their own wealth? For cripe sake look at the medical, retirement........... plans they vote themselves. The Dems and Reps have monopolized the elections, set them selves up as the ruling class. The only thing that keeps these bastards in office forever is dividing and having the subjects fighting among themselves. This keeps our eye's off of them while they slowly steal or wealth and take away our freedoms. Fuck look at the NDAA, unconstitutional as the day is long, are we discussing that? No we are arguing over who said what about Libya, or the latest comment by either side. All fucking distraction from the real problem, the corrupt government as a whole. The media is complicit in this, Fox, MSNBC, CNN, all guilty. They just play a different side of the same coin. Why do we have all these "social" programs? 2 reasons, 1 to buy votes and 2 to keep the parasites of society appeased because otherwise they would be out committing crimes to get the $. We are not so different to any other country is that aspect, except in our case we blame the other party instead of another country for our problems. The government stopped representing the people along time ago and simply do what they want. Who is to blame for this? We are, we let it happen and have done nothing to stop it. There are 300 Million of us and 535 of them, the odds should be heavily stacked in our favor.
Necrosis approved.
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by that same idiotic logic, I guess me and you are also partly responsible for all the bad shit ppl use public road for now?
we contribute to drug trafficing, murders, terrorism as well...maybe we should all be locked up?
hey moron, we all have the same ability to go out and make money. If its so fucking easy why dont you go do it and then donate all your earnings?
why do you feel entitled to someone elses hard earned money?
you didnt fucking help them by paying taxes moron
bump for necrosis,
Bump for a response from the libtards...
are we responsible for the bad shit that happens as a result of govt paid shit?
how is your life going to be better with higher taxes on the "rich"?
bump for the libtard goof troop
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OK morons-- anyone care to argue that Obama is NOT a socialist?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_nationalism
http://www.scribd.com/doc/77579660/France-Economic-Patriotism
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Do you really think they are going to do anything to impact their own wealth? For cripe sake look at the medical, retirement........... plans they vote themselves. The Dems and Reps have monopolized the elections, set them selves up as the ruling class. The only thing that keeps these bastards in office forever is dividing and having the subjects fighting among themselves. This keeps our eye's off of them while they slowly steal or wealth and take away our freedoms. Fuck look at the NDAA, unconstitutional as the day is long, are we discussing that? No we are arguing over who said what about Libya, or the latest comment by either side. All fucking distraction from the real problem, the corrupt government as a whole. The media is complicit in this, Fox, MSNBC, CNN, all guilty. They just play a different side of the same coin. Why do we have all these "social" programs? 2 reasons, 1 to buy votes and 2 to keep the parasites of society appeased because otherwise they would be out committing crimes to get the $. We are not so different to any other country is that aspect, except in our case we blame the other party instead of another country for our problems. The government stopped representing the people along time ago and simply do what they want. Who is to blame for this? We are, we let it happen and have done nothing to stop it. There are 300 Million of us and 535 of them, the odds should be heavily stacked in our favor.
So why do you support the republicans again?
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Bump for a response from the libtards...
are we responsible for the bad shit that happens as a result of govt paid shit?
how is your life going to be better with higher taxes on the "rich"?
More money for education, healthcare, infrastructure etc..
How is life going to be better with the top 1% owning even more than they already do ???
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More money for education, healthcare, infrastructure etc..
How is life going to be better with the top 1% owning even more than they already do ???
Yes-- more money for education and infrastructure ::)
We already spend more per capita on education than any other country on earth besides Luxemborg. You think higher taxes will change the fact that our kids are getting a shit education with no standards? How about killing the UFT and their deep pockets and mandating some actual teaching standards? How about we stop forcing stupid kids to attend college and shift them toward vocational careers? There are a million better ways to fix education than wasting more tax dollars.
And Infrastructure? Are you fucking retarded? The EPA's seemingly endless reach of power, the unmitigated power of Obama's union
thugs make any serious and meaningful infrastructure project impossible-- unless of course its another bullshit bridge to nowhere type project where Harry Reid can line his pockets with our tax dollars; or high speed rail that travels at 23 miles an hour. ::)
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Higher taxes alone will not do the trick of course.
But i thought this was implied i forgot i was debating a child who just needs something to scream at to make himself feel better.
My bad.
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So why do you support the republicans again?
I don't support republicans, I support conservatives
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I don't support republicans, I support conservatives
They left the republican party years ago
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They left the republican party years ago
and yet all the communists stayed in the democRAT party.
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More money for education, healthcare, infrastructure etc..
How is life going to be better with the top 1% owning even more than they already do ???
you do know that the proposed tax hikes would only run the govt for a few weeks right?
how much education you gonna get with that?
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Higher taxes alone will not do the trick of course.
But i thought this was implied i forgot i was debating a child who just needs something to scream at to make himself feel better.
My bad.
higher taxes shouldnt even be an issue right now...
the govt spending should be front and center in this debate, thats the biggest problem not raising taxes that wont even fund the govt for a few months.
how is funding the govt for a few weeks/months going to help education?
thats assuming spending stays the same, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IT WONT!!!!
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higher taxes shouldnt even be an issue right now...
the govt spending should be front and center in this debate, thats the biggest problem not raising taxes that wont even fund the govt for a few months.
how is funding the govt for a few weeks/months going to help education?
thats assuming spending stays the same, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IT WONT!!!!
You now where governmenet spending comes from? Lobbyists.
How do they "lobby"? With cash.
Its all connected.
And why do you spend so much time defending the rich like a fucking parrot. Cant they speak for temselves?
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you do know that the proposed tax hikes would only run the govt for a few weeks right?
how much education you gonna get with that?
This doesnt make any sense.
You know how the $$ can only feed our dog 2 months right?
How long can our car drive on that?
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You now where governmenet spending comes from? Lobbyists.
How do they "lobby"? With cash.
Its all connected.
And why do you spend so much time defending the rich like a fucking parrot. Cant they speak for temselves?
wow youre an idiot, how old are you whork just out of curiosity?
Im not defending the rich, im defending hard working ppl keeping their own money. I dont care how much they have or dont have.
why do you feel entitled to others money?
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This doesnt make any sense.
You know how the $$ can only feed our dog 2 months right?
How long can our car drive on that?
again I dont know what to say to your idiocy.
the govt needs to fund itself before it can do anything else to fund other things. If they cant fund themselves how are they going to give money to you?
second the education department is part of the govt that needs funding, so if the taxes only extend the funding of the govt for weeks/months how does that help the education department increase money to education?
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wow youre an idiot, how old are you whork just out of curiosity?
Im not defending the rich, im defending hard working ppl keeping their own money. I dont care how much they have or dont have.
why do you feel entitled to others money?
And only rich people work for their money?
The middle class works a helluva lot harder for their money but you defend the rich ???
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again I dont know what to say to your idiocy.
the govt needs to fund itself before it can do anything else to fund other things. If they cant fund themselves how are they going to give money to you?
second the education department is part of the govt that needs funding, so if the taxes only extend the funding of the govt for weeks/months how does that help the education department increase money to education?
If we take you quote above then we should not spend anything on military, education, healthcare etc before our debt was zero.
Come back to the real world so we can debate.
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And only rich people work for their money?
The middle class works a helluva lot harder for their money but you defend the rich ???
never said that, why cant they both keep their hard earned money?
thats the question retard...
why do you believe that the middle class works harder for their money?
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If we take you quote above then we should not spend anything on military, education, healthcare etc before our debt was zero.
Come back to the real world so we can debate.
do you know what a strawman is whork, I seriously doubt you have a firm grasp on the concept but you just created a strawman and set fire to it.
its a typical obama tactic so maybe you just picked it up from him without knowing it.
cutting back on spending doesnt mean no spending, hope this helps but I doubt it will...
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never said that, why cant they both keep their hard earned money?
thats the question retard...
why do you believe that the middle class works harder for their money?
Because we have a friggin deficit.
Your ideology doesnt let you cope with reality
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never said that, why cant they both keep their hard earned money?
thats the question retard...
why do you believe that the middle class works harder for their money?
Because many rich have inherited wealth making everything easier compared to someone born in poverty
Education and bills no problem
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Because we have a friggin deficit.
Your ideology doesnt let you cope with reality
what contributes more to the deficit whork, spending or lack of taxes on the rich?
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Because many rich have inherited wealth making everything easier compared to someone born in poverty
Education and bills no problem
Please give the citation for your statement that many rich inherit their wealth.
Many rich make their wealth on there own as well, you should look at the number of millionaires from year to year.
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what contributes more to the deficit whork, spending or lack of taxes on the rich?
Spending obviously.
But spending covers a lot.
Healthcare
Military
etc etc
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Please give the citation for your statement that many rich inherit their wealth.
Many rich make their wealth on there own as well, you should look at the number of millionaires from year to year.
Yes but they usually make this wealth through investments stocks etc they dont make them sweating in a factory
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Because many rich have inherited wealth making everything easier compared to someone born in poverty
Education and bills no problem
So what? I hope that when I die, that I can pass on wealth to my kid.
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Yes but they usually make this wealth through investments stocks etc they dont make them sweating in a factory
Again, so what?
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So what? I hope that when I die, that I can pass on wealth to my kid.
Me too.
Its was a response to Tony claiming rich people work for their money and the middle class didnt.
My point was that if your are born with rich parents rather than poor it makes everything easier
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Again, so what?
So they make their money easier than the guy building our roads etc..
Read the posts in the thread to get the full picture its hard when you just read one responds and comment on it
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Yes but they usually make this wealth through investments stocks etc they dont make them sweating in a factory
please give me your proof of this?
Me too.
Its was a response to Tony claiming rich people work for their money and the middle class didnt.
My point was that if your are born with rich parents rather than poor it makes everything easier
so mentally challenging work that is less physical is easier then physically challenging work that is less mental?
thats your assertion?
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Spending obviously.
But spending covers a lot.
Healthcare
Military
etc etc
if you can agree that spending is the true problem then why not rant and rave about spending before you rant and rave about taxes?
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if you can agree that spending is the true problem then why not rant and rave about spending before you rant and rave about taxes?
Because spending is a hard topic that covers a LOT.
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please give me your proof of this?so mentally challenging work that is less physical is easier then physically challenging work that is less mental?
thats your assertion?
You want proof that rich people dont sweat in factories?