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Title: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Nomad on October 05, 2012, 02:37:37 PM
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Just minutes after the Labor Department reported the lowest unemployment rate since January 2009, former GE CEO Jack Welch weighed in on twitter. "Unbelievable jobs numbers…these Chicago guys will do anything.. can't debate so change numbers."

brutal rape. Can't wait till this lieing liberal gimmick is tossed out of office. Anyways some solid numbers, don't know if liberals still believe in facts or numbers if they counter their points of view.

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The rate declined from 8.1 percent because the number of people who said they were employed soared by 873,000 — an encouraging sign for an economy that's been struggling to create enough jobs.

The Labor Department said employers added 114,000 jobs in September. It also said the economy created 86,000 more jobs in July and August than the department had initially estimated.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-jobless-rate-falls-7-123110416.html
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: bike nut on October 05, 2012, 02:39:34 PM
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Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Nomad on October 05, 2012, 02:40:20 PM
For those who can't do math, or liberals.

873,000 - 114,000 = 759,000. Where are these 759,000 jobs ?
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Benny B on October 05, 2012, 02:41:24 PM
brutal rape. Can't wait till this lieing liberal gimmick is tossed out of office. Anyways some solid numbers, don't know if liberals still believe in facts or numbers if they counter their points of view.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-jobless-rate-falls-7-123110416.html

If you doubt that the new unemployment statistics are great for Obama, the biggest indication is that Republicans are accusing President Obama of cooking them.

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Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: arce1988 on October 05, 2012, 02:43:05 PM
  It is very odd, that they come out just like this, right after the debate...
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Nomad on October 05, 2012, 02:44:39 PM
If you doubt that the new unemployment statistics are great for Obama, the biggest indication is that Republicans are accusing President Obama of cooking them.

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A CNN/ORC International poll of 430 people who watched the debate showed 67% thought Romney won, compared to 25% for Obama.



 :D
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 05, 2012, 02:46:55 PM
Obama's own admin releases numbers after he was made a fool of in a debate. They have no shame.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Benny B on October 05, 2012, 02:47:42 PM
A CNN/ORC International poll of 430 people who watched the debate showed 67% thought Romney won, compared to 25% for Obama.



 :D
don't mean diddly-squat  ;D ;)



BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
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Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Shockwave on October 05, 2012, 02:48:22 PM
don't mean diddly-squat  ;D ;)



BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
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Im sure they numbers are great for Obama, doesn't mean they're real numbers.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Nomad on October 05, 2012, 02:48:38 PM
don't mean diddly-squat  ;D ;)



BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
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You are quoting numbers made up by one person. One = 1,  430 = 430, 430 >>> 1. Okay?


A CNN/ORC International poll of 430 people who watched the debate showed 67% thought Romney won, compared to 25% for Obama.

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Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: bike nut on October 05, 2012, 02:49:24 PM
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Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: bike nut on October 05, 2012, 02:51:22 PM
Obama's own admin releases numbers after he was made a fool of in a debate. They have no shame.

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Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: MCWAY on October 05, 2012, 02:51:56 PM
don't mean diddly-squat  ;D ;)



BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
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BOOM THIS!!

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Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Emmortal on October 05, 2012, 02:54:55 PM
 ;D

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Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: bike nut on October 05, 2012, 03:01:46 PM
OBAMA IS FULL OF SHIT!!!!!!!

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The seasonally-adjusted SGS Alternate Unemployment Rate reflects current unemployment reporting methodology adjusted for long-term discouraged workers. That estimate is added to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) estimate of U-6 unemployment, which includes short-term discouraged workers.

The U-3 unemployment rate is the monthly headline number. The U-6 unemployment rate is the BLS broadest unemployment measure, including short-term discouraged workers as well as those forced to work part-time because they cannot find full-time employment
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: arce1988 on October 05, 2012, 03:06:04 PM
It is very odd, that they come out just like this, right after the debate...
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: POB on October 05, 2012, 03:10:08 PM
This is far from over either way. It's like when a team scores 1st in a nfl game, does that mean they win?
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: tbombz on October 05, 2012, 03:55:09 PM
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Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: tbombz on October 05, 2012, 03:56:28 PM
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Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: The True Adonis on October 05, 2012, 04:02:44 PM
Republicans are morons.  There used to be a time when they actually had intelligent things to say and ideas to implement, but that was well over 50 years ago.  The current status of the Republican party is so intellectually bankrupt, they believe Mitt Romney is a Conservative. 

All one has to do is examine Romney`s record to realize that he is nothing what the current Republican party thinks he is and that is actually a good thing.  Too bad they are too stupid to realize this.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Nomad on October 05, 2012, 04:26:03 PM
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Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Frank Clairmonte on October 05, 2012, 04:31:28 PM
having a job...... ::)

only outside getbig.

time to fuck my super model.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: tbombz on October 05, 2012, 04:34:03 PM
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yup.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: bike nut on October 05, 2012, 04:49:49 PM
Republicans are morons.  There used to be a time when they actually had intelligent things to say and ideas to implement, but that was well over 50 years ago.  The current status of the Republican party is so intellectually bankrupt, they believe Mitt Romney is a Conservative. 

All one has to do is examine Romney`s record to realize that he is nothing what the current Republican party thinks he is and that is actually a good thing.  Too bad they are too stupid to realize this.

There is no other conclusion.....people who blindly continue to support obama are just dumb.

(And one on Getbig is double fucking dumb AND lets men fuck him in the ass)
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: bike nut on October 05, 2012, 04:53:58 PM
having a job...... ::)

only outside getbig.

time to fuck my super model.

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Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 05, 2012, 05:45:25 PM
  It is very odd, that they come out just like this, right after the debate...
it's not, this is when it's normally released.  everyone expected it.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: garebear on October 06, 2012, 08:32:15 AM
When the unemployment numbers were above 8.0 they were legitimate; fall below and they are fixed. When the national polls had the race at 50:50 they were legitimate; Obama takes a lead and they are fixed. Wait until after the election for the coming of the voter fraud apocalypse.

Notice how every Republican raced to the internet to find the numbers on who won the debate? Of course, all those are legit.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Kazan on October 06, 2012, 09:50:38 AM
When the unemployment numbers were above 8.0 they were legitimate; fall below and they are fixed. When the national polls had the race at 50:50 they were legitimate; Obama takes a lead and they are fixed. Wait until after the election for the coming of the voter fraud apocalypse.

Notice how every Republican raced to the internet to find the numbers on who won the debate? Of course, all those are legit.

You see that's where your wrong, I thought the 8% was bullshit as well......... It was higher than that
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: 240 is Back on October 06, 2012, 10:11:23 AM
A lot of highly experienced, well respected republicans are hating on the UE 'truther' movement.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82087.html?hp=f2

I don't know what high level economic experience West has, which makes him a more viable expert.

I believe the numbers are bullshite, but someone has to prove it with more than "it just doesn't feel right". 
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Shockwave on October 06, 2012, 10:17:34 AM
A lot of highly experienced, well respected republicans are hating on the UE 'truther' movement.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82087.html?hp=f2

I don't know what high level economic experience West has, which makes him a more viable expert.

I believe the numbers are bullshite, but someone has to prove it with more than "it just doesn't feel right". 
Its about public perception - most people are not going to go out of their way to verify the accuracy of these numbers, and the republicans would come off sounding bitter and desperate to the average person trying to say they're cooked.

Its like calling someone a liar AFTER the debate - to the public, its just sour grapes. To our public, generally whatever hits their ears 1st is truth, and everything after that is damage control.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: garebear on October 06, 2012, 10:21:45 AM
Somebody needs to tell Allen West that the days of Kid N Play haircuts has long ago ceased.

Does he even take himself seriously at this point?

Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: 240 is Back on October 06, 2012, 10:24:49 AM
Its like calling someone a liar AFTER the debate - to the public, its just sour grapes. To our public, generally whatever hits their ears 1st is truth, and everything after that is damage control.

well, the dems can show VIDEO of romney with 2 different positions.

Can the repubs prove obama is lying with the BLS numbers?
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Shockwave on October 06, 2012, 10:31:25 AM
well, the dems can show VIDEO of romney with 2 different positions.

Can the repubs prove obama is lying with the BLS numbers?
I don't think lying is exactly whats going on. Technically speaking, the BLS numbers aren't lying, it's just that the data that makes up those numbers isn't indicative of the ACTUAL UE.... Its a way to make things look better to the public than they really are.

Again, like "fact checkers", and the "federal" reserve, you stick a tag on it like "UE numbers", and people take it at face value, they don't actually look at what data makes up those numbers.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 06, 2012, 11:01:28 AM
So, how does Obama have the capability to fix unemployment numbers....there would have to be a massive conspiracy in the entire Labor Dept..... ::)
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Kazan on October 06, 2012, 12:02:57 PM
So, how does Obama have the capability to fix unemployment numbers....there would have to be a massive conspiracy in the entire Labor Dept..... ::)

Were you born yesterday? For as long as I can remember this gets added that gets subtracted to make things look better than they are. However is in power gets to appoint people, they carry the water for them.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2012, 12:36:50 PM
Were you born yesterday? For as long as I can remember this gets added that gets subtracted to make things look better than they are. However is in power gets to appoint people, they carry the water for them.

They used the household survey which uses very dicey assumptions.   
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: 240 is Back on October 06, 2012, 01:01:28 PM
They used the household survey which uses very dicey assumptions.   

who did?  The BLS?  Was this new?  Was it done like this in 2007 or 1999 or 1991?

Please show us that this is a NEW way of doing it, and WHO ordered the change?

Cause if this is whatever every prez does, well, it's hard to argue against something that's been okay until the kenyan did it.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2012, 01:03:06 PM
who did?  The BLS?  Was this new?  Was it done like this in 2007 or 1999 or 1991?

Please show us that this is a NEW way of doing it, and WHO ordered the change?

Cause if this is whatever every prez does, well, it's hard to argue against something that's been okay until the kenyan did it.

Go to zerohedge.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: 240 is Back on October 06, 2012, 02:55:17 PM
Go to zerohedge.

3rd link you've sent me to.   Okay, I'll just peruse the 50,000 pages on their site until I find the one you're mentioning.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: George Whorewell on October 06, 2012, 07:12:33 PM
Prediction: The number gets revised upward and the UE rate reported in November for the month of October will go right back to 8% on the eve of the election.

Either way, this means= Diddly/Squat

You heard it here first.



Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: 240 is Back on October 06, 2012, 07:14:23 PM
Prediction: The number gets revised upward and the UE rate reported in November for the month of October will go right back to 8% on the eve of the election.

at that point, obama will have spent so much $ in ads (181 mil in the last month alone.. haven't heard romney number yet)

At that point, a revision will be a minor headline, and the damage to romney will be done with early voting and the flurry of last minute, last ditch efforts we always see which blurry the waters.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: George Whorewell on October 06, 2012, 07:25:51 PM
at that point, obama will have spent so much $ in ads (181 mil in the last month alone.. haven't heard romney number yet)

At that point, a revision will be a minor headline, and the damage to romney will be done with early voting and the flurry of last minute, last ditch efforts we always see which blurry the waters.

 ::)

Care to make a wager on this well informed and thoughtful prediction of yours?

Do you really think that the droves of Americans suffering because of the orangutan in chiefs moronic policies are going to bat an eye because unemployment fictitiously dropped .2% after Romney publicly raped Obama during the first debate? 65 million people watched Obama embarrass himself. Of those 65 million, how many do you think are unemployed or underemployed?

If your premise is correct, why would the 7.8% number have any meaningful impact on the election because of early voting-- while an upwards revision followed by an October number of 8%+ on the eve of the election would have no impact on the outcome?
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Hawk on October 06, 2012, 11:35:15 PM
::)

Care to make a wager on this well informed and thoughtful prediction of yours? Do you really think that the droves of Americans suffering because of the orangutan in chiefs moronic policies are going to bat an eye because unemployment fictitiously dropped .2% after Romney publicly raped Obama during the first debate? 65 million people watched Obama embarrass himself. Of those 65 million, how many do you think are unemployed or underemployed?

If your premise is correct, why would the 7.8% number have any meaningful impact on the election because of early voting-- while an upwards revision followed by an October number of 8%+ on the eve of the election would have no impact on the outcome?

I'd be more than happy to take you up on that wager if 240 does not.  ;)

If you think a slight uptick in the UE number two days before the election will pull it out for Romney, you must also believe another bump downward guarantees the election for Obama.

Either way, you need your head examined. Half the votes will already be in through early voting, with heavey advertising and two more debates solidifying people's already formed opinions of the two candidates.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: MCWAY on October 06, 2012, 11:54:19 PM
I'd be more than happy to take you up on that wager if 240 does not.  ;)

If you think a slight uptick in the UE number two days before the election will pull it out for Romney, you must also believe another bump downward guarantees the election for Obama.

Either way, you need your head examined. Half the votes will already be in through early voting, with heavey advertising and two more debates solidifying people's already formed opinions of the two candidates.


That leaves the undecideds, which historically go in droves AGAINST the incumbent. If that holds and Romney's close, it's lights out for Obama.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: George Whorewell on October 07, 2012, 05:24:31 AM
I'd be more than happy to take you up on that wager if 240 does not.  ;)

If you think a slight uptick in the UE number two days before the election will pull it out for Romney, you must also believe another bump downward guarantees the election for Obama.

Either way, you need your head examined. Half the votes will already be in through early voting, with heavey advertising and two more debates solidifying people's already formed opinions of the two candidates.



Early voting is going to result in more than half the votes having already been cast before election day? I would do some research on that if I were you.

Secondly, if you refer to my original post, I said that the 7.8% number means Diddly/Squat. I do not think this will have an impact on the election; just as a revision upward followed by an 8% or + UE will not have an impact on the election. 
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Hawk on October 07, 2012, 03:35:02 PM
Secondly, if you refer to my original post, I said that the 7.8% number means Diddly/Squat. I do not think this will have an impact on the election; just as a revision upward followed by an 8% or + UE will not have an impact on the election. 
I completely disagree.
The 7.8% UE figure practically assures Obama's re-election, as the polls are in his favor anyway.  ;)
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 07, 2012, 03:46:15 PM
I completely disagree.
The 7.8% UE figure practically assures Obama's re-election, as the polls are in his favor anyway.  ;)


Lol.  You are in for a rude awakening. 
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Hawk on October 07, 2012, 04:03:25 PM

Lol.  You are in for a rude awakening. 
Wanna bet?  ;D

(http://abcnewsradioonline.com/storage/news-images/P_121011_RomneyPerryABC.JPG?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1323575481091)

How about the loser pays $100 and deletes his account.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 07, 2012, 04:09:06 PM
Wanna bet?  ;D

(http://abcnewsradioonline.com/storage/news-images/P_121011_RomneyPerryABC.JPG?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1323575481091)

How about the loser pays $100 and deletes his account.

I'm done at 99999 regardless.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Hawk on October 07, 2012, 04:16:27 PM
I'm done at 99999 regardless.
Really?  :o

What gimmick will you use will you do with your life after you reach that number?  :-\
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: tu_holmes on October 07, 2012, 04:34:58 PM
I'm done at 99999 regardless.

Do you think you will make it to the election.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 07, 2012, 04:41:32 PM
Do you think you will make it to the election.

Yes.    That number won't break 100k
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: MCWAY on October 07, 2012, 05:22:56 PM
When the unemployment numbers were above 8.0 they were legitimate; fall below and they are fixed. When the national polls had the race at 50:50 they were legitimate; Obama takes a lead and they are fixed. Wait until after the election for the coming of the voter fraud apocalypse.

Notice how every Republican raced to the internet to find the numbers on who won the debate? Of course, all those are legit.

GET REAL!! A month ago, when unemployment dropped from 8.2 to 8.1, nearly ALL of the news reports stated the obvious: The main reason for the reduced number was people dropping out of the workforce.

We've been saying that FOR MONTHS. Nothing has changed. It's just WAAAAY too convenient that, given the odds of incumbent presidents getting re-elected with unemployment 8% or higher, Obama coming off getting thrashed in the debate, and most of the experts predicting unemployment to say the same or increase.......ALL OF A SUDDEN (despite adding even fewer jobs in September than in August) the number gets below 8%.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: MCWAY on October 07, 2012, 05:25:04 PM
When the unemployment numbers were above 8.0 they were legitimate; fall below and they are fixed. When the national polls had the race at 50:50 they were legitimate; Obama takes a lead and they are fixed. Wait until after the election for the coming of the voter fraud apocalypse.

Notice how every Republican raced to the internet to find the numbers on who won the debate? Of course, all those are legit.

Typical liberals, basking in failure. Obama, even with cooked numbers, took over three and a half years to basically get unemployment back to where it was when he took office.

All it cost was nearly $6 trillion, two credit downgrades, and his party getting massacred in the midterms.

Break out the bubbly!!! We're slightly below average, Team Obama!!
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: garebear on October 08, 2012, 06:18:14 AM
I can see that one got to you.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 08, 2012, 06:19:23 AM
I can see that one got to you.

Funny how liberals like yourself see no issue w the fact that last month 100k more went on food stamps.  Yeah, real progress alright. 
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: garebear on October 08, 2012, 08:19:32 AM
Funny how liberals like yourself see no issue w the fact that last month 100k more went on food stamps.  Yeah, real progress alright. 
Serious question - How much do you get in food stamps per month?

Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: MCWAY on October 08, 2012, 08:30:48 AM
I can see that one got to you.

Hardly!! In case you don't take hints well, that was LAUGHING at people like you, celebrating failure (or borderline mediocrity) at best, as Obama came nowhere NEAR accomplishing what he said he'd accomplish.

Per his now-departed economic team, unemployment was supposed to be at 5.5% by now and never should have been at 8%, in the first place.

That spells FAILURE!! Yet, you're swinging your pom-poms, because unemployment is back to where it was (supposedly) when he took office, after 44 straight months of being where it was never supposed to be.

Six trillion dollars, two credit downgrades, and a party massacre.....all for (literally) NOTHING!!
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: garebear on October 08, 2012, 08:51:52 AM
Hardly!! In case you don't take hints well, that was LAUGHING at people like you, celebrating failure (or borderline mediocrity) at best, as Obama came nowhere NEAR accomplishing what he said he'd accomplish.

Per his now-departed economic team, unemployment was supposed to be at 5.5% by now and never should have been at 8%, in the first place.

That spells FAILURE!! Yet, you're swinging your pom-poms, because unemployment is back to where it was (supposedly) when he took office, after 44 straight months of being where it was never supposed to be.

Six trillion dollars, two credit downgrades, and a party massacre.....all for (literally) NOTHING!!
Let's not forget that the party you support actually obstructed the recovery of this country every chance they got and see the dropping unemployment as a bad thing.

When the shit hit the fan, and Obama was being inaugurated, Republicans didn't hold a meeting on how to help Americans. They held a meeting on how to defeat Obama, as if that was more important than helping the people who were just hurt by so many of their own policies.

Vote them all back in. Maybe your religion will quit being "attacked".

Man, you're a real piece of work.


Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 08, 2012, 09:00:29 AM
Let's not forget that the party you support actually obstructed the recovery of this country every chance they got and see the dropping unemployment as a bad thing.

When the shit hit the fan, and Obama was being inaugurated, Republicans didn't hold a meeting on how to help Americans. They held a meeting on how to defeat Obama, as if that was more important than helping the people who were just hurt by so many of their own policies.

Vote them all back in. Maybe your religion will quit being "attacked".

Man, you're a real piece of work.





Hey homo - the Demos had supermajorities and spent two years on cap and trade, obamacare, and a ridiculous stim bill remember? 

How did those abortions work out? 
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: garebear on October 08, 2012, 09:03:14 AM

Hey homo - the Demos had supermajorities and spent two years on cap and trade, obamacare, and a ridiculous stim bill remember? 

How did those abortions work out? 
"Hey, homo"

Really? What's the point?

Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 08, 2012, 09:08:10 AM
"Hey, homo"

Really? What's the point?



Liberals are in sheer panic. 

Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: garebear on October 08, 2012, 09:14:45 AM
Liberals are in sheer panic. 


Yeah, I can't control myself. I can barely make it through my day.

Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 08, 2012, 09:16:51 AM
Yeah, I can't control myself. I can barely make it through my day.



You are in China remember?  Eat any dogs like Obama did lately? 
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: 240 is Back on October 08, 2012, 10:28:45 AM
Serious question - How much do you get in food stamps per month?



serious Q - gare, should the US be arming Syrian rebels, as Romney said?
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: MCWAY on October 08, 2012, 11:30:45 AM
Let's not forget that the party you support actually obstructed the recovery of this country every chance they got and see the dropping unemployment as a bad thing.

When the shit hit the fan, and Obama was being inaugurated, Republicans didn't hold a meeting on how to help Americans. They held a meeting on how to defeat Obama, as if that was more important than helping the people who were just hurt by so many of their own policies.

Vote them all back in. Maybe your religion will quit being "attacked".

Man, you're a real piece of work.




Let's also not forget that your party ran Washington virtually unopposed for two years. And, here's a news flash for you: EVERY PARTY hold meeting on how to defeat the president, when he is of the opposite party. Are you silly and naive enough to think the Dems put aside their partisanship and sang "Kum Bah Yah" when Bush was president?

Incidentally, the worst years of the Bush administration were the last two, which just so happen to be when the Dems were running Congress. Coincidence? You make the call!!

Once again, why are you liberals celebrating failure?

Did Obama cut the deficit in half? NO!

Did he close Gitmo? NO!

Did he keep unemployment under 8%? NO!

Did he get unemployment to 5.5% as projected? NO!

Did he put a policy about immigration in place? NO!

Did the "Summer of Recovery" created 500,000 jobs per year? NO!

That, Garebear, is utter failure, by Obama's own standards. Yet, you and the other TK members want to start popping bottles, because of (supposed) 7.8% unemployment
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: The True Adonis on October 08, 2012, 07:38:05 PM
Funny how liberals like yourself see no issue w the fact that last month 100k more went on food stamps.  Yeah, real progress alright. 
Why do a lot of Republicans go on Food Stamps and Welfare.  Its pretty prevalent and strange if you ask me.  What is the deal with this?
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 08, 2012, 07:39:58 PM
Why do a lot of Republicans go on Food Stamps and Welfare.  Its pretty prevalent and strange if you ask me.  What is the deal with this?

Could care less - an improving economy would see people going off welfare, not signing up for freebies.   

Face it TA - obama economy is a miserable failure and this little experiment is soon over.   

Even Andrew Sullivan knows the end is near on this rolling train wreck. 

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/10/did-obama-just-throw-the-entire-election-away.html

Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: tonymctones on October 08, 2012, 07:41:54 PM
Let's not forget that the party you support actually obstructed the recovery of this country every chance they got and see the dropping unemployment as a bad thing.

When the shit hit the fan, and Obama was being inaugurated, Republicans didn't hold a meeting on how to help Americans. They held a meeting on how to defeat Obama, as if that was more important than helping the people who were just hurt by so many of their own policies.

Vote them all back in. Maybe your religion will quit being "attacked".

Man, you're a real piece of work.
helping america and stopping the vast majority of obamas agenda were one in the same you moron.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: whork on October 09, 2012, 03:21:42 AM
Could care less - an improving economy would see people going off welfare, not signing up for freebies.   

Face it TA - obama economy is a miserable failure and this little experiment is soon over.   

Even Andrew Sullivan knows the end is near on this rolling train wreck. 

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/10/did-obama-just-throw-the-entire-election-away.html



I thought people went on welfare because they were lazy and didnt want to work? Isnt that what you have been saying all this time?
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: garebear on October 09, 2012, 03:29:44 AM
I see Romney is up in the polls now.

Is that a conspiracy too?

Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 09, 2012, 03:34:41 AM
I see Romney is up in the polls now.

Is that a conspiracy too?



No it's reality.   Your messiah is going away.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: garebear on October 09, 2012, 03:50:36 AM
No it's reality.   Your messiah is going away.
Oh, OK.

That one's not a conspiracy.

I think I've got it now.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Emmortal on October 09, 2012, 10:30:20 AM
No conspiracies, just cold hard facts.  BLS numbers have been cooked all the way back to LBJ, this isn't anything new and it's happened in pretty much every administration.  Although last months numbers seem to be the most drastic cooking of all time:

http://plus.cnbc.com/rssvideosearch/action/player/id/3000121246/code/cnbcplayershare
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Hawk on October 09, 2012, 12:03:12 PM

Hey homo - the Demos had supermajorities and spent two years on cap and trade, obamacare, and a ridiculous stim bill remember? 

How did those abortions work out? 
The democrats did not have a supermajority in the senate for two years.  ::) It was more like two months, if that. As usual, your facts are wrong. You must enjoy lying as much as your man Romney.

Passing health care reform was something that needed to be done, since presidents had been trying (and failing) for at least fifty years. The stimulus was intended to get people working again after the Bush disaster-years, only it should have been much bigger, and it should not have been 1/3 tax cuts to appease the republican morons.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 09, 2012, 12:09:37 PM
The democrats did not have a supermajority in the senate for two years.  ::) It was more like two months, if that. As usual, your facts are wrong. You must enjoy lying as much as your man Romney.

Passing health care reform was something that needed to be done, since presidents had been trying (and failing) for at least fifty years. The stimulus was intended to get people working again after the Bush disaster-years, only it should have been much bigger, and it should not have been 1/3 tax cuts to appease the republican morons.


No wonder the empty chair got demolished in the debate.   You idiots, like the supreme idiot himself, believe in so many false narratives.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Hawk on October 09, 2012, 12:13:54 PM

No wonder the empty chair got demolished in the debate.   You idiots, like the supreme idiot himself, believe in so many false narratives.
What false narrative, chief?
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 09, 2012, 12:17:39 PM
What false narrative, chief?


"Passing health care reform was something that needed to be done, since presidents had been trying (and failing) for at least fifty years"


FALSE
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: whork on October 09, 2012, 12:24:39 PM

"Passing health care reform was something that needed to be done, since presidents had been trying (and failing) for at least fifty years"


FALSE

What about the first 2 lines he wrote?
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 09, 2012, 12:27:40 PM
What about the first 2 lines he wrote?

The democrats had the largest majories in anyones' lifetimes and could have done almost anything they wanted.  They blew everything on african ball washing, ThugCare, and an energy tax grab 
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: 240 is Back on October 09, 2012, 01:46:02 PM
Fortune magazine just let Jack Welch go for making this baseless accusation against a sitting US President, after condemning his statement immediately.
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Hawk on October 09, 2012, 06:47:42 PM
The democrats had the largest majories in anyones' lifetimes and could have done almost anything they wanted.  They blew everything on african ball washing, ThugCare, and an energy tax grab 
So...you no longer stand by your LIE that the democrats had a supermajority for two years?  ::)

A simple YES or NO will suffice.  :)
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 09, 2012, 06:48:56 PM
So...you no longer stand by your LIE that the democrats had a supermajority for two years?  ::)

A simple YES or NO will suffice.  :)

They had the largest majorities in anyones lifetimes and spent it all on GhettoCare, African ball washing, and an energy tax 
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Hawk on October 10, 2012, 07:23:34 AM
They had the largest majorities in anyones lifetimes and spent it all on GhettoCare, African ball washing, and an energy tax 
Since you have a problem admitting when you are wrong and/or LYING, I will accept this post as a grudging admission that you were completely wrong in stating that the democrats had a supermajority for two years.  ;)

And as we all know, virtually NOTHING can be accomplished without a supermajority, as without sixty votes the republicans will block EVERYTHING that democrats propose. The republicans have blocked things that they previous supported...they were for it before they were against it.  ::)


Now that I've shut down your "supermajority" nonsense, shall we move on to your last couple of statements regarding healthcare reform?
Title: Re: Obama can't debate -- time to fudge job numbers
Post by: Hawk on October 10, 2012, 11:09:26 AM
Since you have a problem admitting when you are wrong and/or LYING, I will accept this post as a grudging admission that you were completely wrong in stating that the democrats had a supermajority for two years.  ;)

And as we all know, virtually NOTHING can be accomplished without a supermajority, as without sixty votes the republicans will block EVERYTHING that democrats propose. The republicans have blocked things that they previous supported...they were for it before they were against it.  ::)


Now that I've shut down your "supermajority" nonsense, shall we move on to your last couple of statements regarding healthcare reform?
 
*BUMP*