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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: dj181 on October 07, 2012, 02:15:32 AM
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i try and stay with once every 3 to 5 days
once a week can work to, but i think that a bit more often works even better
and does anybody go up to 2 weeks btw bodyparts and still make gains? i've heard about this, but find it hard to believe
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i think 1x a week is ok but every 2 weeks?? canīt see that working
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i think 1x a week is ok but every 2 weeks?? canīt see that working
that's inspired by Mentzer, as he says that as one goes bigger and stronger that they must take more rest days between training sessions in order to continue to get bigger and stronger
it makes ALOT of sense, but i'm just not sure if it's accurate...
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maybe if you are a Beast and Deadlift massive weight then OK...but ....for most 2 weeks is too much rest in my humble opinion
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3 days per week... while each day focuses heavy movements on a certain muscle group, all body parts are training 3 days per week
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One time per week. I've done this 94% of my training career (career lol).
Should I give something else a try? ???
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One time per week. I've done this 94% of my training career (career lol).
Should I give something else a try? ???
not sure
i seem to make best progress hitting each muscle every 3-5 days
i think that 7-10 days can work for maintaince, but for growth/progress every 3-5 days seems to work better IMO
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not sure
i seem to make best progress hitting each muscle every 3-5 days
i think that 7-10 days can work for maintaince, but for growth/progress every 3-5 days seems to work better IMO
Cool, what do you think about muscles like abs? I usually train them three times a week.
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Cool, what do you think about muscles like abs? I usually train them three times a week.
i think you've seen my pic when i was sub-6 right?
well man, HONEST TO GOD i did ZERO ab training, and i've never trained my abs in fact
IMO the only reason to train abs is to make the ab wall thicker, so if you want to thicken your ab wall then train them, but train them just like any other muscle
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i think you've seen my pic when i was sub-6 right?
well man, HONEST TO GOD i did ZERO ab training, and i've never trained my abs in fact
IMO the only reason to train abs is to make the ab wall thicker, so if you want to thicken your ab wall then train them, but train them just like any other muscle
Unless your a guy who competes on stage and every detail is important i would just train them say 2x a week like i do. I just do Basic crunches and sometimes Reverse crunches. After my leg day doing stiff legged deads my abs are sore. I used to be obsessed with a 6 pack too and did every exercise under the sun. Bought books and shit. Fucking waste of time and money... you can even keep your abs in shape with old school sit ups. worry about your big muscles and forget the Beach 6 pack. a flat hard waist is what i go for now. I see a some abs but if i wanted to REALLY concentrate on them i would lose weight and my poundages would suffer.
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Unless your a guy who competes on stage and every detail is important i would just train them say 2x a week like i do. I just do Basic crunches and sometimes Reverse crunches. After my leg day doing stiff legged deads my abs are sore. I used to be obsessed with a 6 pack too and did every exercise under the sun. Bought books and shit. Fucking waste of time and money... you can even keep your abs in shape with old school sit ups. worry about your big muscles and forget the Beach 6 pack. a flat hard waist is what i go for now. I see a some abs but if i wanted to REALLY concentrate on them i would lose weight and my poundages would suffer.
starving=nice abs ;)
i did ZERO ab training then, and i never have done any ab training
nice abs come from a low bodyfat % and good ab genetics
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yes 100% that is a good physique
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Met quite a few successful lifters (BB'er & PL'ers) who hit a selected muscle group, or lift, every 7 to 9 days. Anything longer than that, most tend to not keep, even slightly losing, their training/conditioning edge. Usually the 7-9 thing is when extra heavy workouts are done. I'll do once a week usually. Think most trainee's would find once or twice a week to their benefit, when working a targeted body part. Three times a week, to me, is just not needed. Even full body workouts (becoming somewhat popular now) can be preformed once or twice a week.
As dj181 suggest, direct ab training may be over hyped. The Ab's are a very powerful short range muscle group (as most short range muscle groups are) and should to trained that way. Regular BB'ing rep of 8 to 12, 2 or 3 sets should be all that is need. Even indirect exercises, like chins, pullovers, cleans,dips, etc, hit the total Ab wall (obliques also). If finding happiness in marathon ab workouts, than help yourself. Fear not of adding impressive weight to any of your Ab workouts, they are designed for strength.
One of the better Ab training devices is the common, and much over looked, Ab Wheel. Another device it the original Roman Chair. Extremely effected. They both hit the total Ab structure, upper and lower, with equal attention. Some of the exercise equipment that are being sold as Roman Chairs, in reality, are far from the original concept and not real Roman Chairs. Good Luck.
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The original Roman chair was a flat seat and now they are slanted but Bodybuilders used to put a block under the front to make a slant.,, they do work well.
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Might also suggest working the lower back with any serious Ab training. Want balanced strength/development with each other. Abs will help the back to stay healthy and the back will help the Abs stay healthy. They function as a single unit to insure a higher level of performance, and (hopefully) free from strain and injury.
Romanian DL's, GoodMoringing's and back extensions might be considered. Worth the time and effort..... always. Good Luck.
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thanks for the reply jpm
i "feel" like i need to train each muscle every 3 to 5 days for best possible results, but i have made gains even taking up to 7 or 8 days btw bodyparts, but i've never really gained waiting any longer than that, and strength and size starts to go down "de-compensation" if i put any more than 2 weeks, or 14 days btw bodypart sessions
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starving=nice abs ;)
i did ZERO ab training then, and i never have done any ab training
nice abs come from a low bodyfat % and good ab genetics
That's awesome! I didn't train abs for my first couple years. I stopped gaining strength (especially stuck on squatting) and I realized my abs muscles were extremely weak, unbelievably weak. I guess the only reason I've been training them is because I feel like it's helped me grow in other areas.
I hope I can look like you some day. 8)
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every 48-72 hours is optimal for growth.
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once a week. monday back/biceps, wednesday chest/shoulders/triceps, friday legs/lower back/abs
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starving=nice abs ;)
i did ZERO ab training then, and i never have done any ab training
nice abs come from a low bodyfat % and good ab genetics
Looking really in shape there. Solid physique. Were you juicing or natural?
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It's been my experience that if you are lifting heavy to failure that once a week works. If you are doing a little more volume working on increasing endurance doing say 3 to 6 sets an exercise then twice a week is better. Just that simple.
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Looking really in shape there. Solid physique. Were you juicing or natural?
i was a lifetime natty at the point in time
i weighed all of 157 @ 5'11" and i was running bout 3 miles a day 5 days per week and lifting about 5 days per week as well
recently i've decided to give up on "the dream" of being larger and just focus on being fit as fuck and looking like i did there with just a tad bit more size (hopefully mostly on my arms and delts, as my torso outshines my delts and arms)
170-175 is my max desired weight, but at that level of leaness/condition
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i was a lifetime natty at the point in time
i weighed all of 157 @ 5'11" and i was running bout 3 miles a day 5 days per week and lifting about 5 days per week as well
recently i've decided to give up on "the dream" of being larger and just focus on being fit as fuck and looking like i did there with just a tad bit more size (hopefully mostly on my arms and delts, as my torso outshines my delts and arms)
170-175 is my max desired weight, but at that level of leaness/condition
Being Fit is the best Goal, Muscle and cardio fitness and flexibility.
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Being Fit is the best Goal, Muscle and cardio fitness and flexibility.
yeah, fuck what others say about being huge
p.s. chicks dig slim and fit men without "overly developed" muscles
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yeah, fuck what others say about being huge
p.s. chicks dig slim and fit men without "overly developed" muscles
This is true i mean if you can keep looking fit and muscular as you age...is that not progress? We all want a bit of size but too much( talking extreme muscle mass) is not healthy.(in my opinion).
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Used to hit every muscle once per week with a 4 day split. But for the past year +/- been doing 2x a week with a 6 day split. Doing 6 days work ok for me so far. I only noticed I just have to eat lots and sleep more. Naps are a good thing. So far so good. 8)
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i was a lifetime natty at the point in time
i weighed all of 157 @ 5'11" and i was running bout 3 miles a day 5 days per week and lifting about 5 days per week as well
recently i've decided to give up on "the dream" of being larger and just focus on being fit as fuck and looking like i did there with just a tad bit more size (hopefully mostly on my arms and delts, as my torso outshines my delts and arms)
170-175 is my max desired weight, but at that level of leaness/condition
Don't get caught up on size or weight on the scale. A lot of perma bulkers look fantastic with their shirts on. When they take them off they look smooth and out of shape. Be the best you can be and judging from that picture you succeeded but never be satisfied. When I was in my 20's and into my 30's I was obsessed with the scale and size. Now in my 50's I realize that the scale can be your enemy. Many panic when they go below a certain weight because they feel skinny. In reality they are starting to look really good but they worry about the scale and the tape measure. Being strong and big is meaningless if your not in condition.
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Don't get caught up on size or weight on the scale. A lot of perma bulkers look fantastic with their shirts on. When they take them off they look smooth and out of shape. Be the best you can be and judging from that picture you succeeded but never be satisfied. When I was in my 20's and into my 30's I was obsessed with the scale and size. Now in my 50's I realize that the scale can be your enemy. Many panic when they go below a certain weight because they feel skinny. In reality they are starting to look really good but they worry about the scale and the tape measure. Being strong and big is meaningless if your not in condition.
thanks for the feedback man, but i'm not really so obsessed with size and scale weight, that's for other dudes here on this site, as they have this obsession, not me
my goal is beauty 8)
think Marvel super-heros like spider-man, he is 5'11" 165 with a tight and tiny waist and pretty round muscles, and this is my goal ;)