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Title: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Wiggs on October 07, 2012, 09:43:45 AM
Many of us are waiting for a "false flag" that might happen that would give President Obama or Prime Minister Netanyahu a reason to engage with Iran.  IMO This "drone" was either American or Israeli... In other words, it's bullshit.  Shit is getting crazy as we get closer to critical mass.


http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/06/14264335-israel-shoots-down-unidentified-drone#comments

JERUSALEM — The Israeli air force shot down a drone after it crossed into southern Israel on Saturday, the military said, but it remained unclear where the aircraft had come from. The drone was first spotted above the Mediterranean in the area of the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip to the west of Israel, said military spokeswoman Avital Leibovich.  It was kept under surveillance and followed by Israeli air force jets before it was shot down above a forest in an unpopulated area near the border with the occupied West Bank.

Leibovich said it was shot down at about 10 a.m. (3 a.m. ET), after it travelled east some 55 kilometers (35 miles) across Israel's southern Negev desert. Defense Minister Ehud Barak praised the interception as "sharp and effective." "We view with great severity the attempt to compromise Israeli air space and will consider our response in due course,"Barak said in a statement. Soldiers, assisted by helicopters, were searching the area for the remains of the drone, which security sources said most likely did not originate from the Gaza Strip. Israel's Army Radio reported the drone was not carrying any explosives.

Israeli parliament member Miri Regev, a former chief spokesman of the military, wrote on Twitter it was an "Iranian drone launched by Hezbollah," referring to the Lebanese Shi'ite group that fought a war with Israel in 2006. Defense officials would not confirm Hezbollah's connection to the drone. On at least one occasion, Iranian-backed Hezbollah has launched a drone into Israel. And in 2010, an Israeli warplane shot down an apparently unmanned balloon in the Negev near the country's Dimona nuclear reactor. The Israeli military released a 10-second video clip of what it said was Saturday's mid-air interception. In the video, a small, unidentified aircraft is seen moments before being destroyed by a missile fired from a fighter jet.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 07, 2012, 06:23:54 PM
drug cartels use submarines and trebuchets.  don't tell me islamic terrorists or neighboring hostile countries of israel are beyond using drones. 
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 07:27:42 PM
False flag to give reason for israel to involve Lebanon and further destabilize the middle-east ::) Ah... people are so ignorant..
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 08, 2012, 07:30:43 PM
False flag to give reason for israel to involve Lebanon and further destabilize the middle-east ::) Ah... people are so ignorant..

wrong.  idiot.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 07:36:07 PM
lol sure believe in the fairy tales by fox news, cnn and all the other war speak streams of misinformation :)

Certain US elites, political lobbies and organizations (like AIPAC, bnai brith), israel are blood thirsty for world war 3.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 08, 2012, 07:41:16 PM
lol sure believe in the fairy tales by fox news, cnn and all the other war speak streams of misinformation :)

Certain US elites, political lobbies and organizations (like AIPAC, bnai brith), israel are blood thirsty for world war 3.

as bad as those sources are they're still more credible than your worthless, ill-informed clown babble.  kill yourself.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 10:14:22 PM
Awww

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Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: phreak on October 09, 2012, 03:40:50 AM
drug cartels use submarines and trebuchets.  don't tell me islamic terrorists or neighboring hostile countries of israel are beyond using drones. 
They would, if they could afford them. Or do you think muslim terrorists can afford real drones, where ultra-rich drug cartels can't?
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: dj181 on October 09, 2012, 05:04:14 AM
Israli Jews are fierce badasses RESPECT
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 09, 2012, 08:18:55 AM
You respect murderers, thieves, liars and crooks? Fascinating. Must be why your government is run by people who want your country to fail :)









The only time in recent human history that there was peace in Palestine was under Muslim rule. Where Jews, Christians and Muslims lived peacefully.

When the crusades came they not only killed Jews and Muslims they even killed the local Christians deeming them heretics for living peacefully with Jews and Muslims.

Then the zionists came and there's never been peace since. Christians and Muslims are oppressed by so called Jews.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 09, 2012, 04:49:02 PM
You respect murderers, thieves, liars and crooks? Fascinating. Must be why your government is run by people who want your country to fail :)

The only time in recent human history that there was peace in Palestine was under Muslim rule. Where Jews, Christians and Muslims lived peacefully.

When the crusades came they not only killed Jews and Muslims they even killed the local Christians deeming them heretics for living peacefully with Jews and Muslims.

Then the zionists came and there's never been peace since. Christians and Muslims are oppressed by so called Jews.

lol.. please.  you live in fantasy land. 

when jews began repopulating 'palestine' after ww2 local arab tribes flocked to jewish settlements en masse to enjoy the prosperity and modern farming jews introduced.  it was only after islamic extremism seeked to expel and exterminate the jewish population that violence erupted.. not jewish action.  modern israelis continue to suffer despite being attacked and murdered by animals who deliberately target civilians.  israelis defend themselves and go through great lengths to avoid killing innocents.. difficult since the dogs hide in mosques, schools, and hospitals.  and this is the filth you defend. 

only a worthless drone like yourself would believe the lies and promulgate them.  stop polluting the world and go suicide bomb yourself in your own backyard.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Parker on October 09, 2012, 09:07:00 PM
They would, if they could afford them. Or do you think muslim terrorists can afford real drones, where ultra-rich drug cartels can't?
yep, muslim terrorists funded by oil rich Saudis and ME middlemen---with money far longer than drug cartels.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 09, 2012, 09:24:02 PM
yep, muslim terrorists funded by oil rich Saudis and ME middlemen---with money far longer than drug cartels.

absolutely.  this is the modern world and those who 'believe' and are fighting a war go far beyond the needs of business that drugs can bring.  as long as we're thinking of funding keep in mind that terrorism is very entwined in the profits from drugs, esp heroin.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 08:37:45 AM
lol.. please.  you live in fantasy land. 

when jews began repopulating 'palestine' after ww2 local arab tribes flocked to jewish settlements en masse to enjoy the prosperity and modern farming jews introduced.  it was only after islamic extremism seeked to expel and exterminate the jewish population that violence erupted.. not jewish action.  modern israelis continue to suffer despite being attacked and murdered by animals who deliberately target civilians.  israelis defend themselves and go through great lengths to avoid killing innocents.. difficult since the dogs hide in mosques, schools, and hospitals.  and this is the filth you defend. 

only a worthless drone like yourself would believe the lies and promulgate them.  stop polluting the world and go suicide bomb yourself in your own backyard.

LMAO what a load of bullshit. Fantasy much.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Ronnie Rep on October 10, 2012, 10:51:22 AM
You respect murderers, thieves, liars and crooks? Fascinating. Must be why your government is run by people who want your country to fail :)









The only time in recent human history that there was peace in Palestine was under Muslim rule. Where Jews, Christians and Muslims lived peacefully.

When the crusades came they not only killed Jews and Muslims they even killed the local Christians deeming them heretics for living peacefully with Jews and Muslims.

Then the zionists came and there's never been peace since. Christians and Muslims are oppressed by so called Jews.
You are dilusional!
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 12:51:13 PM
No you are

Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: polychronopolous on October 10, 2012, 12:56:03 PM
Israli Jews are fierce badasses RESPECT

X2

Always gratifying to sit back on my comfortable recliner and watch them go in and kick a little ass now and again.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 10, 2012, 01:00:06 PM
No you are


happens on both sides.  finding incidents like that doesn't mean anything compared to the decades of murdered civilians by palestinians.  act like animals, be treated like animals because israel doesn't have to tolerate bad behavior.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 01:49:49 PM
Wow you are braintarded.

Israel was created through forced immigrations and terrorism.

You don't know history if all you think is "the evil palestinians". I've studied the conflict in detail.

In a nutshell, zionists promoted vast immigrations from Russia and europe into Palestine since the late 1800s, it kept accelerating. The british 'interfered' and there was a backlash and jewish terrorists started bombing and killing civillians, market places, attacking the british, until the british ran away. Then they started targetting the palestinians.

A genocide of the palestinians took place, mass evictions, mass land theft, million+ refugees. Hundreds of villages ethnically cleansed, hundreds of mosques and churches destroyed.

That's how 'israel' was created. Then to wash their hands of the jews, europeans and americans voted on the 'creation of israel' and the zionists celebrated all happy happy in 1948. Hence the palestinians call it the 'great catastrophe'. It was injustice done to the natives.

Jews were the minority, they still are not the majortiy but they intend to drive off all the palestinians be they christian or muslim out of palestine until they control 'israel' over all those lands. Hence the continuing 'settlements' which are basically illegal land grabs little by little.

Palestinians can't even WALK or drive on the 'settlement roads' even though its their country. They got shot at and often killed.

The root cause of the conflict is the illegal establishment of israel via deception and terrorism.

If you listen to what these 'founding fathers' of israel have to say you would know who the real evil villain is. Their intent form the get go was to steal this land and destroy it's native people. Their intent goes further than that, to villify the locals and act the victim.

Zionists exploit the holocaust to buy victimhood to justify the creation, establishment and maintanence of israel. To maintain the continuing violent and deceptive actions by Israelis towards the palestinians so the world does not 'feel' for the palestinians but 'feels' for the jews (and not all jews are zionists or pro-israel)
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 10, 2012, 02:12:57 PM
Wow you are braintarded.

Israel was created through forced immigrations and terrorism.


i stopped reading after this statement.  no, you haven't studied the conflict.  you've studied pro-palestinian propaganda and you've chosen what 'facts' you wanted to absorb.  you have no credibility.  you are just another pro-palestinian, anti-israeli idealogue.

unlike you i've studied the entire history with objectivity.  i could argue for days about the history but the fact remains that TODAY the palestinians are destroying their own chance for peace by engaging in terrorism and murder against innocent civilians.  in other words, they don't want peace unless that peace comes by way of jews being eliminated from israel (and probably the world).  by your own statements it's obvious you support this practice continuing and, therefore, you are the problem.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: dj181 on October 10, 2012, 02:16:51 PM
X2

Always gratifying to sit back on my comfortable recliner and watch them go in and kick a little ass now and again.

 ;D
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 02:26:52 PM
i stopped reading after this statement.  no, you haven't studied the conflict.  you've studied pro-palestinian propaganda and you've chosen what 'facts' you wanted to absorb.  you have no credibility.  you are just another pro-palestinian, anti-israeli idealogue.

unlike you i've studied the entire history with objectivity.  i could argue for days about the history but the fact remains that TODAY the palestinians are destroying their own chance for peace by engaging in terrorism and murder against innocent civilians.  in other words, they don't want peace unless that peace comes by way of jews being eliminated from israel (and probably the world).  by your own statements it's obvious you support this practice continuing and, therefore, you are the problem.

lol at you could argue for days and you studied the history of the conflict.

What a joke!

Well realize this. People are waking up to the deception in mainstream pro-israeli western media. They realize who the real criminal is.

It's sad that certain Jews (zionists/israelis) are torturing and ethnically cleansing a people for over 50 years, while they suffered in ww2.

I mean these sickos even have a policy of starving gazans, only allowing so much food to put them at a starvation level.

Gaza has majority children, the last and longest military siege on earth.

Bulldozing houses? Is this the 'only democracy in the middleeast'



What terrorism? Palestinians are terrorists for throwing rocks, Israelis are 'defending themeslves' (even though they stole someone else's land who's lived there far longer) by using F16s, F22s, phosphor weapons, chemical weapons, cluster bombs, all sorts of experimental weaponery on a civillian population.

A policy of starving the locals, a policy of nazi style 'check points'.

Don't they feel shame that what was done to them they are doing today to palestinians
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 02:35:20 PM
I grew up watching ww2 movies and how the jews suffered, as a child, i remember this one scene of a woman sitting on a bench and receving her husband's remains in a small box (cremated) all the 'propaganda' if you want to call it that. I had all that glued in my head growing up as a child. Well... having aged, I've also been observing current events in the world and this rings more true than ever.

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Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Shockwave on October 10, 2012, 04:47:56 PM
I grew up watching ww2 movies and how the jews suffered, as a child, i remember this one scene of a woman sitting on a bench and receving her husband's remains in a small box (cremated) all the 'propaganda' if you want to call it that. I had all that glued in my head growing up as a child. Well... having aged, I've also been observing current events in the world and this rings more true than ever.


Nice propaganda.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 10, 2012, 05:21:57 PM
lol at you could argue for days and you studied the history of the conflict.

What a joke!

Well realize this. People are waking up to the deception in mainstream pro-israeli western media. They realize who the real criminal is.

It's sad that certain Jews (zionists/israelis) are torturing and ethnically cleansing a people for over 50 years, while they suffered in ww2.

I mean these sickos even have a policy of starving gazans, only allowing so much food to put them at a starvation level.

Gaza has majority children, the last and longest military siege on earth.

Bulldozing houses? Is this the 'only democracy in the middleeast'



What terrorism? Palestinians are terrorists for throwing rocks, Israelis are 'defending themeslves' (even though they stole someone else's land who's lived there far longer) by using F16s, F22s, phosphor weapons, chemical weapons, cluster bombs, all sorts of experimental weaponery on a civillian population.

A policy of starving the locals, a policy of nazi style 'check points'.

Don't they feel shame that what was done to them they are doing today to palestinians

israelis don't launch rockets indiscriminately into towns.  palestinians do.

israelis don't shell indiscriminately into towns. palestinians do.

israelis don't suicide bomb markets, restaurants, and malls.  palestinians do.

israelis don't suicide bomb buses full of civilians.  palestinians do.

israeli soldiers don't hide amongst hospitals, schools, and crowded housing units.  palestinians do.

israelis don't target civilians nor do they instigate violence then cry oppression and murder when there is collateral damage.  palestinians do (and use human shields).  

all of this is stuff you eat up and use to further the cause of extermination.  you wanna compare israelis to nazis yet it is YOUR side wanting and pursuing genocide.  

you don't know shit, nor do you care to.  israel is forced to defend it's population.  good for them.    
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 05:45:08 PM
israelis don't launch rockets indiscriminately into towns.  palestinians do stopped.

israelis don't shell indiscriminately use precision guided weapons into towns. palestinians do don't.

israelis don't suicide bomb markets, restaurants, and malls use F16s, tanks, F22s, drones.  palestinians do don't.

israelis don't suicide bomb buses cluster bomb, chemically bomb, rocket bomb towns full of civilians.  palestinians do don't.

israeli soldiers don't hide have to hide amongst hospitals, schools, and crowded housing units.  palestinians do have to hide as they are bombed all the time.

israelis don't target civilians nor do they instigate violence then cry oppression and murder when there is collateral damage Palestinians want to retaliate.  palestinians do (and use human shields) don't and no palestinian, man, woman or child is ever safe in palestine.  

all of this is stuff you eat up and use to further the cause of extermination.  you wanna compare israelis Palestinians to nazis yet it is YOUR the Israeli side wanting and pursuing genocide from way before 1948 before even ww2 and the holocaust.  

you don't know shit, nor do you care to.  israel is forced to defend forcing it's population to become soldiers to kill innoscent palestinians and rob them of their land.  good for The hell with them.    
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: stingray on October 11, 2012, 01:14:38 AM
If the jews love america somuch then why dont they piss off and build there jewsih state in AMERICA.

Or build there state in africa, plenty of land there.

Former israeli prime minister was quoted as saying,

Ariel Sharon:

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

- Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.


Then fuck off back to america
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 11, 2012, 01:17:40 AM
Israel is nothing but a drain on the United States, they should be cut off along with all the other savages in the Middle East.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 11, 2012, 01:20:23 AM
If the jews love america somuch then why dont they piss off and build there jewsih state in AMERICA.

Or build there state in africa, plenty of land there.

Former israeli prime minister was quoted as saying,

Ariel Sharon:

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

- Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.


Then fuck off back to america

first off, no one wants to go to the hell hole that is africa.

second, you are an idiot for believing that nonsense..

False Zionist Quote: Sharon Quote is Fabricated

The following is an example of statements misquoted, taken out of context or otherwise manipulated to present a distorted view of Zionist intentions and actions. The misquotes are found in op-eds in campus newpapers and mainstream press as well as on anti-Israel websites.

MISQUOTE:

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as quoted in an op-ed by nationally syndicated columnist Georgie Anne Geyer, allegedly said at an Israeli Cabinet meeting in autumn, 2001and reported by Kol Yisrael radio:

“Don't worry about American pressure, we control America.”

“Don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.”

FACT:

These quotes originated with the pro-Hamas American group Islamic Association for Palestine in an Oct. 13, 2001 press release, which claimed its source as Israeli radio Kol Yisrael:

    According [to] the Israeli Hebrew radio, Col Yisrael Wednesday, Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and turn the US against us. At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying “ . . . I want to tell you something clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.”…

Elsewhere in the press release, the quote was repeated, albeit slightly altered to: “we control America.”

CAMERA received confirmation from Kol Yisrael political correspondent Yoni Ben-Menachem, who reports on Cabinet meetings, that he never made such a broadcast and that Sharon never made such a statement.

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_article=373&x_context=7
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 11, 2012, 01:23:40 AM
Israel is nothing but a drain on the United States, they should be cut off along with all the other savages in the Middle East.

bullshit.. israel is the best ally we have in the region and the intel they provide is indispensable.  we shouldn't fuck over allies.  we wouldn't cut off the uk, canada, germany so no reason to cut off israel. 
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 11, 2012, 01:26:41 AM
bullshit.. israel is the best ally we have in the region and the intel they provide is indispensable.  we shouldn't fuck over allies.  we wouldn't cut off the uk, canada, germany so no reason to cut off israel. 

You might be right, but you have to admit they create all kind of problems for the United States, and manipulate us constantly.   :-X
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 11, 2012, 01:33:02 AM
You might be right, but you have to admit they create all kind of problems for the United States, and manipulate us constantly.   :-X

not really.. bibi is pissed at obama for dicking israel over but in general we're pulling more strings than they are.  most of the jews in america vote democrat (why, idk) who routinely stab jews over for palestinian and two-state policies.  w/o our backing israel might be toast and they know it.  i wouldn't call it manipulation in the least.  i'd say we're all they've got at this point.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 11, 2012, 01:34:29 AM
not really.. bibi is pissed at obama for dicking israel over but in general we're pulling more strings than they are.  most of the jews in america vote democrat (why, idk) who routinely stab jews over for palestinian and two-state policies.  w/o our backing israel might be toast and they know it.  i wouldn't call it manipulation in the least.  i'd say we're all they've got at this point.

Okay, don't get me wrong... I love all the Jews I know in person (conservative ones), but I just don't know about Israel...  :-\
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 11, 2012, 01:42:16 AM
Okay, don't get me wrong... I love all the Jews I know in person (conservative ones), but I just don't know about Israel...  :-\

that's kinda how i feel.  much like the repubs the jews, both in israel and here, are playing the game of politics (and life) stupidly.  israel and turkey are two places in the middle east we really have to hold apart from the others.  it's easy to write off the whole region as a lost cause and a waste (as i do with africa) but it's just not the case.  if we want to have influence and prevent small problems from getting out of control we need the footholds and connections these countries provide.  that's what places like israel, turkey, and saudi arabia provide in many ways.  believe me, i don't like jews having our homeland surrounded by people who want us wiped out either.  it sucks but seems to be a constant in our existence. 
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 11, 2012, 01:44:19 AM
that's kinda how i feel.  much like the repubs the jews, both in israel and here, are playing the game of politics (and life) stupidly.  israel and turkey are two places in the middle east we really have to hold apart from the others.  it's easy to write off the whole region as a lost cause and a waste (as i do with africa) but it's just not the case.  if we want to have influence and prevent small problems from getting out of control we need the footholds and connections these countries provide.  that's what places like israel, turkey, and saudi arabia provide in many ways.  believe me, i don't like jews having our homeland surrounded by people who want us wiped out either.  it sucks but seems to be a constant in our existence. 

Hmm... Interesting post, keep up the good work!  8)
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: stingray on October 11, 2012, 04:29:02 AM
first off, no one wants to go to the hell hole that is africa.

second, you are an idiot for believing that nonsense..

False Zionist Quote: Sharon Quote is Fabricated

The following is an example of statements misquoted, taken out of context or otherwise manipulated to present a distorted view of Zionist intentions and actions. The misquotes are found in op-eds in campus newpapers and mainstream press as well as on anti-Israel websites.

MISQUOTE:

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as quoted in an op-ed by nationally syndicated columnist Georgie Anne Geyer, allegedly said at an Israeli Cabinet meeting in autumn, 2001and reported by Kol Yisrael radio:

“Don't worry about American pressure, we control America.”

“Don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.”

FACT:

These quotes originated with the pro-Hamas American group Islamic Association for Palestine in an Oct. 13, 2001 press release, which claimed its source as Israeli radio Kol Yisrael:

    According [to] the Israeli Hebrew radio, Col Yisrael Wednesday, Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and turn the US against us. At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying “ . . . I want to tell you something clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.”…

Elsewhere in the press release, the quote was repeated, albeit slightly altered to: “we control America.”

CAMERA received confirmation from Kol Yisrael political correspondent Yoni Ben-Menachem, who reports on Cabinet meetings, that he never made such a broadcast and that Sharon never made such a statement.

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_article=373&x_context=7

I guess these are non sense to,

1."We came here to a country that was populated by Arabs and we are building here a Hebrew, a Jewish state; instead of the Arab villages, Jewish villages were established. You even do not know the names of those villages, and I do not blame you because these villages no longer exist. There is not a single Jewish settlement that was not established in the place of a former Arab Village."  –  Moshe Dyan, March 19, 1969, speech at the Technion in Haifa, quoted in Ha’aretz, April 4, 1969.

2."I don't understand your optimism. Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country." – David Ben Gurion, 1956, quoted by Nahum Goldmann in The Jewish Paradox, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p.99.

3. "We take the land first and the law comes after."  – Mr. Palmon, Arab affairs adviser to the Mayor of Jerusalem, quoted in The Guardian, 26 April 1972.

4 "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours . . . Everything we don't grab will go to them." – Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

5. One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." –  Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 in N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p.

6. "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" – Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 11, 2012, 10:41:48 AM
bullshit.. israel is the best ally we have in the region and the intel they provide is indispensable.  we shouldn't fuck over allies.  we wouldn't cut off the uk, canada, germany so no reason to cut off israel. 

lol you realize that israel was the one that gave you 'intel' that saddam had WMD and could strike within 60 minutes.

They wanted you to invade Iraq. Dumbass :)
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 11, 2012, 01:49:40 PM
Fucking Israeli scum october 6th 2012:

Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Shockwave on October 11, 2012, 01:54:38 PM
Fucking Israeli scum october 6th 2012:


Oh noesss, TEAR GAS!!  ::)
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 11, 2012, 02:04:42 PM
Oh noesss, TEAR GAS!!  ::)

Oh what a surprising response. I guess if you were in your land farming and someone threw a bunch of tear gas bombs you would say ooh noooes tear gas and roll your eyes and give them high five.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: stingray on October 11, 2012, 02:15:26 PM
lol you realize that israel was the one that gave you 'intel' that saddam had WMD and could strike within 60 minutes.

They wanted you to invade Iraq. Dumbass :)

Israeli cowards, they send other nations to do there dirty work because there the chosen people.

America troops are dying in iraq for the establishment and expansion of the jewish state. Why should the jews dies, let other people die for them.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 11, 2012, 04:15:29 PM
I guess these are non sense to,

1."We came here to a country that was populated by Arabs and we are building here a Hebrew, a Jewish state; instead of the Arab villages, Jewish villages were established. You even do not know the names of those villages, and I do not blame you because these villages no longer exist. There is not a single Jewish settlement that was not established in the place of a former Arab Village."  –  Moshe Dyan, March 19, 1969, speech at the Technion in Haifa, quoted in Ha’aretz, April 4, 1969.

2."I don't understand your optimism. Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country." – David Ben Gurion, 1956, quoted by Nahum Goldmann in The Jewish Paradox, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p.99.

3. "We take the land first and the law comes after."  – Mr. Palmon, Arab affairs adviser to the Mayor of Jerusalem, quoted in The Guardian, 26 April 1972.

4 "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours . . . Everything we don't grab will go to them." – Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

5. One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." –  Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 in N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p.

6. "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" – Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

i don't know.. look them up.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 11, 2012, 04:17:37 PM
Oh what a surprising response. I guess if you were in your land farming and someone threw a bunch of tear gas bombs you would say ooh noooes tear gas and roll your eyes and give them high five.

is that anything like eating at a restaurant with your wife and kids and being blown up?

or how about sitting in your house when a palestinian rocket takes your kids head off.

Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 11, 2012, 04:20:19 PM
Israeli cowards, they send other nations to do there dirty work because there the chosen people.

America troops are dying in iraq for the establishment and expansion of the jewish state. Why should the jews dies, let other people die for them.

yeah right.. jews are dying everyday just trying to survive in a world for of cowardly, ignorant people like yourself.  the jewish state isn't trying to expand.  it's trying to exist.  you know nothing so you shouldn't speak.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 11, 2012, 04:27:29 PM
is that anything like eating at a restaurant with your wife and kids and being blown up?

or how about sitting in your house when a palestinian rocket takes your kids head off.



When was the last time palestinians retaliated for attacks on restaurents? They made multiple seize fires and truces, but israel always ends up attacking again and again.

There has been no attacks since and israel just buys more times to steal more land and build more 'settlements'.

Constant humiliation, dehumanization, ethnic cleansing is an on going policy of israel towards the native palestinians.

Harassing them in their own farms, standing by when 'settlers' do their dirty work but 'protecting settlers' if arabs try to retaliate back.

Or how about bulldozing houses?

You cling onto rare events and make it seem like its a DAILY experience of israelis. Bullshit. They live in luxury and get provided by the government a shit ton of stuff just for being Jewish.

The palestinians are treated like animals and indeed many israelis believe that to be true, the secularist atheist zionists and even some misguided jews who believe what the talmud says that non jews, goyim are just servants who will perish, worse than animals.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 11, 2012, 04:28:02 PM
yeah right.. jews are dying everyday just trying to survive in a world for of cowardly, ignorant people like yourself.  the jewish state isn't trying to expand.  it's trying to exist.  you know nothing so you shouldn't speak.

It's 2012, not 1940. Hitler is long dead bud. Israel was created through terrorism and is utilizing terrorism for its survival.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 11, 2012, 04:56:02 PM
you've already made it clear that you only accept a version of events which support the palestinians and that you ignore any facts against.  i'm not wasting my breath anymore for an unreasonable and dogmatic robot. 
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 11, 2012, 05:05:19 PM
you've already made it clear that you only accept a version of events which support the palestinians and that you ignore any facts against.  i'm not wasting my breath anymore for an unreasonable and dogmatic robot. 

No, I support the truth. In a crime, I support the victim, while understanding the circumstances of both sides, I still support the victim. The root cause is analyzed and the criminal understood.

If you want to hear a 'robot' look at yourself in the mirror, look at mainstream pro-israeli media.

It takes effort to research the history of the region, the conflict, etc... and not a 'robot' that is 'educated' by propaganda tailored to encourage the myth that palestine was a 'land without a people, for a people without a land'.

There indeed was a PEOPLE and the land was FILLED with people. The surplass and surge of Jews was through forced immigration. The initial decline in muslim and christian population was due to the ethnic cleansing. Regardless of the oppression both groups produce children. Today israelis 'fear' that Muslims and Christians will over run them due to their infant birth rate.

Zionists want a 'pure jewish state', just how hitler wanted a 'pure aryan state'.



I always find it funny listening to that zionist woman "give me the money, send all the money, bring it on" LOOL

Fyi not all Jews are racist zionists, not all Jews are pro-israel. Israel was created by atheist secularist zionists not people of the torah. They just hijacked the messianic message and perverted it.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 11, 2012, 05:08:06 PM








Palestine indeed existed and was full with people. Israel was indeed only created by force in 1948. It did not exist. Judea did not exist for over 2000 years.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: stingray on October 11, 2012, 06:55:50 PM
you've already made it clear that you only accept a version of events which support the palestinians and that you ignore any facts against.  i'm not wasting my breath anymore for an unreasonable and dogmatic robot. 

Ignore what facts?

Its the jews who are invading and staealing people lands.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Psychopath on October 11, 2012, 07:25:13 PM
We must deal with the Jewish menace.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 11, 2012, 07:32:18 PM
We must deal with the Jewish menace.

 8)
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: AbrahamG on October 11, 2012, 07:42:52 PM
DEATH TO ISRAEL!
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: dj181 on October 12, 2012, 02:28:30 AM
this thread needs some pics of some hot isreali sluts

then it will be TEAM GREAT ASS AND FACE APPROVED 8)
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: phreak on October 12, 2012, 02:55:51 AM
this thread needs some pics of some hot isreali sluts

then it will be TEAM GREAT ASS AND FACE APPROVED 8)

 ???
(http://thedirty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/DIRTY_phpnBmoqQ.jpg)

I'm not doing too poorly in the schnozzle department myself, but it looks like shit on women!
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: dj181 on October 12, 2012, 02:58:42 AM
???
(http://thedirty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/DIRTY_phpnBmoqQ.jpg)

I'm not doing too poorly in the schnozzle department myself, but it looks like shit on women!

lol

ok, so maybe just stick with TEAM GREAT ASS in this particular case ;D
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: mass243 on October 12, 2012, 05:21:42 AM

 Israelis are 'defending themeslves' (even though they stole someone else's land who's lived there far longer) by using F16s, F22s....


Doubt that.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Radical Plato on October 12, 2012, 07:04:14 AM
i stopped reading after this statement.  no, you haven't studied the conflict.  you've studied pro-palestinian propaganda and you've chosen what 'facts' you wanted to absorb.  you have no credibility.  you are just another pro-palestinian, anti-israeli idealogue.

unlike you i've studied the entire history with objectivity.  i could argue for days about the history but the fact remains that TODAY the palestinians are destroying their own chance for peace by engaging in terrorism and murder against innocent civilians.  in other words, they don't want peace unless that peace comes by way of jews being eliminated from israel (and probably the world).  by your own statements it's obvious you support this practice continuing and, therefore, you are the problem.
I like Brixtonbulldog and yes A_AHMED is a MUSLIM, and therefore a massive part of the worldwide scourge known as ISLAM
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Ronnie Rep on October 12, 2012, 07:30:29 AM
i stopped reading after this statement.  no, you haven't studied the conflict.  you've studied pro-palestinian propaganda and you've chosen what 'facts' you wanted to absorb.  you have no credibility.  you are just another pro-palestinian, anti-israeli idealogue.

unlike you i've studied the entire history with objectivity.  i could argue for days about the history but the fact remains that TODAY the palestinians are destroying their own chance for peace by engaging in terrorism and murder against innocent civilians.  in other words, they don't want peace unless that peace comes by way of jews being eliminated from israel (and probably the world).  by your own statements it's obvious you support this practice continuing and, therefore, you are the problem.
This x 1000! As long as you align yourself with terrorists you,will never get the support of anyone but terrorists and their sympathizers!
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: stingray on October 12, 2012, 02:31:21 PM
Judeo-christian alliance lol,

why dont you see what the jews do to the christians in palestian,

http://electronicintifada.net/content/israeli-settlers-increase-their-attacks-palestinian-christian-sites/11756

http://www.strategicnetwork.org/index.php?loc=kb&view=v&id=1550&fto=607&

Once israel have there jewish state after taking every cent and dollar and military hardware from america, all the jews will go back to israeli and leave america broke.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Shockwave on October 12, 2012, 02:37:38 PM
Judeo-christian alliance lol,

why dont you see what the jews do to the christians in palestian,

http://electronicintifada.net/content/israeli-settlers-increase-their-attacks-palestinian-christian-sites/11756

http://www.strategicnetwork.org/index.php?loc=kb&view=v&id=1550&fto=607&

Once israel have there jewish state after taking every cent and dollar and military hardware from america, all the jews will go back to israeli and leave america broke.
Don't care. GFY.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: a_ahmed on October 12, 2012, 02:41:51 PM
Don't care. GFY.

lol, you don't care that america is left bankrupt:

Listen to her, send aaaallll your money to israel keep it coming keep it coming:

Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Shockwave on October 12, 2012, 02:43:09 PM
lol, you don't care that america is left bankrupt:

Listen to her, send aaaallll your money to israel keep it coming keep it coming:


Don't care, go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Israel shoots down unidentified drone
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 12, 2012, 03:53:46 PM
lol.. 'electronicintifada.net'..

sounds real legit ;D