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Title: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: hardgainerj on October 10, 2012, 10:26:33 AM
and no this is not a plug for Obama


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Tito24 on October 10, 2012, 10:30:51 AM
because god told them that


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: hardgainerj on October 10, 2012, 10:33:12 AM
because god told them that
which brings up another point how in the hell is the bible belt going to vote for a mormon?


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 10, 2012, 10:34:44 AM
and no this is not a plug for Obama

Let me make this very easy: 

Obama = 100% disaster

Romnay = 75%-100% disaster.

Most of us are voting for the 25% chance he wont suck. 



Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Archer77 on October 10, 2012, 10:37:20 AM
Let me make this very easy: 

Obama = 100% disaster

Romnay = 75%-100% disaster.

Most of us are voting for the 25% chance he wont suck. 



Are those good odds?  Fuck, we are all doomed.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Heywood on October 10, 2012, 01:13:12 PM
Glen Beck picked up his shoe and said he'd vote for this shoe rather than Obama.

Romney is the solution because he can beat Obama.

That's why......Obamacare is coming unless someone can stop it.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: nasht5 on October 10, 2012, 02:29:34 PM
Obama is an idiot with no experience, he is just a puppet.

romney is not much smarter but atleast he is not controlled by the same puppet masters.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 10, 2012, 02:30:15 PM
Let me make this very easy: 

Obama = 100% disaster

Romnay = 75%-100% disaster.

Most of us are voting for the 25% chance he wont suck. 



lol


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: King Shizzo on October 10, 2012, 02:30:30 PM
He isn't the solution, it's just that we have given the other clown 4 years already.  


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Viking11 on October 10, 2012, 02:33:00 PM
Obama is an idiot with no experience, he is just a puppet.

romney is not much smarter but at least he is controlled by the same puppet masters.
That's  what I keep thinking.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: POB on October 10, 2012, 02:36:48 PM
Your income > 250k= Romney

Your income < 250k=  Obama

Even though I personally believe to benefit financially under Romney you would have to be making 10s of millions of dollars. Anyone making a few hundred thousand and less WILL pay more under Romney,,FACT





Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Parker on October 10, 2012, 02:38:33 PM
Obama is an idiot with no experience, he is just a puppet.

romney is not much smarter but atleast he is controlled by the same puppet masters.
Are you trying to say that this is like a perverse real life Seasame Street?


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Moen on October 10, 2012, 02:48:30 PM
Romney must be the biggest presidential candidate failure I've ever seen. I can't believe you'd vote for him, even if you were anti-democrat. He totally sucks.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 10, 2012, 02:51:13 PM
Romney must be the biggest presidential candidate failure I've ever seen. I can't believe you'd vote for him, even if you were anti-democrat. He totally sucks.

 ::)


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Method101 on October 10, 2012, 02:52:45 PM
Romney would not be different in any meaningful way to any of the previous Republican presidents of the USA.

Romney = Slow death
Obama = Fast death.

Fast death = more likely to wake up white people to the reality of the situation, so even though I am racist I would vote for Obama. By the way if you think the president of America has control over "his decisions" then you are very naive.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: bears on October 10, 2012, 02:53:13 PM
Your income > 250k= Romney

Your income < 250k=  Obama

Even though I personally believe to benefit financially under Romney you would have to be making 10s of millions of dollars. Anyone making a few hundred thousand and less WILL pay more under Romney,,FACT


i'm not crazy about either one.  BUT THAT IS NOT A FACT.  the fact that people think that it is is downright scary.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: tbombz on October 10, 2012, 02:56:04 PM
A Romney presidency would be similar to the Obama presidency on domestic issues.

BUT, when it comes to foreign policy Romney would be an absolute nightmare. A president needs to be calm and level headed under pressure and in national security and foreign affairs issues... Obama has been that. Romney on the other hand seems eager to make enemies with people who disagree with us and is horrible at diplomacy.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 10, 2012, 02:59:15 PM
A Romney presidency would be similar to the Obama presidency on domestic issues.

BUT, when it comes to foreign policy Romney would be an absolute nightmare. A president needs to be calm and level headed under pressure and in national security and foreign affairs issues... Obama has been that. Romney on the other hand seems eager to make enemies with people who disagree with us and is horrible at diplomacy.

STFU moron.  Did you see the hearings today about obama's failures in Lybia?


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: tbombz on October 10, 2012, 03:02:40 PM
Libya.. hmm..  something the president did against the wishes of his base.. something he knew had no political upside.. something every republican in office was demanding that he do.. something the international community including the arab league was begging him to do...  something that absolutely without a doubt proves that the president values doing whats right over doing whats politically wise... yes... i remember libya.... yes, i remember it was probably a mistake..   


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: HockeyFightFan on October 10, 2012, 03:04:29 PM
It's odd, my entire adult life I have many heard people say, "we need a businessman to run this country". If the bulk of our current issues are economic, that would make Romney the overwhelming choice over Obama.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: arce1988 on October 10, 2012, 03:20:40 PM
  USA is fucked either way.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 10, 2012, 03:28:08 PM
Are you trying to say that this is like a perverse real life Seasame Street?

At the end of fiscal 2011, Sesame Workshop and its subsidiaries had total assets of $289 million.

 So Sesame Street is worth more than the US government, which is $16T in debt.

 Two hundred eighty nine million dollars…ah..ah….ah…!

 ~The Count


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 10, 2012, 03:34:56 PM
Let me make this very easy: 

Obama = 100% disaster

Romnay = 75%-100% disaster.

Most of us are voting for the 25% chance he wont suck. 



In the very beginning maybe, but now I feel quite differently that Romney will be everything BUT a disaster. He seems solid. What are you basing this on.

*Liberals, stay out of this question. If you believe the lies (proven) that Obama has said, done and will keep on saying, your input is meaningless.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 10, 2012, 03:40:35 PM
In the very beginning maybe, but now I feel quite differently that Romney will be everything BUT a disaster. He seems solid. What are you basing this on.

*Liberals, stay out of this question. If you believe the lies (proven) that Obama has said, done and will keep on saying, your input is meaningless.

He is still a politician 


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Voice of Doom on October 10, 2012, 03:49:44 PM
They both answer to the same control.

there's about a 3% real difference between the parties...that's it.

But we like you to feel involved in the process...and please keep paying those taxes.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 10, 2012, 04:40:25 PM
The Doom and Gloom scenario's will be almost unbearable with Romney behind the mic. The only thing Romney hasn't done in his life is blow people up. You just know he's itching to press a few buttons and tell the world about it. CAn't we just vacant the position for the next 4 years?


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Wiggs on October 10, 2012, 05:17:16 PM
Romney would not be different in any meaningful way to any of the previous Republican presidents of the USA.

Romney = Slow death
Obama = Fast death.

Fast death = more likely to wake up white people to the reality of the situation, so even though I am racist I would vote for Obama. By the way if you think the president of America has control over "his decisions" then you are very naive.


Well holy shit. Look who decided to grow a brain stem.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: tbombz on October 10, 2012, 05:21:25 PM
It's odd, my entire adult life I have many heard people say, "we need a businessman to run this country". If the bulk of our current issues are economic, that would make Romney the overwhelming choice over Obama.
businessmen understand how to operate in an economy. they dont necessarily know how to build one.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Archer77 on October 10, 2012, 05:24:01 PM
businessmen understand how to operate in an economy. they dont necessarily know how to build one.

They know how to run a company(sometimes) but that doesn't necessarily mean they know how to run government.  A company and a government are two very different things.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: tbombz on October 10, 2012, 05:31:09 PM
They know how to run a company(sometimes) but that doesn't necessarily mean they know how to run government.  A company and a government are two very different things.
i worded my statement the way i did for a reason. because often times people say what you just said "the goverment is not a business and therefore knowing how to run a business doesnt mean you know how to run the government".  that statement, i think, is not as accurate as mine because there are definite similarities in the kind of leadership role necessary to excell at business and government leadership.  the difference between the two doesnt lie so much in the difference between the leadership role, which is implied when you talk about running a company/running a government, but i think the difference is more about understanding cultural and economic issues that pertain to society in general and how to craft a system that builds long term economic growth by way of encouraging productive citizens... as compared to a business which doesnt need to worry about the human element or cultural factors that encourage productivity because a business can mechanize the production line , and other things..


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 10, 2012, 05:33:20 PM
businessmen understand how to operate in an economy. they dont necessarily know how to build one.

Yet a lazy layabout like obama knows how to run thungs?


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: tbombz on October 10, 2012, 07:29:27 PM
Yet a lazy layabout like obama knows how to run thungs?
obama came from a middle class family, worked his way up in the world. just because he supports entitlement programs doesnt mean he feels entitled to anything.

but wait.. im expecting you to be reasonable and actually consider the idea that obama is a good guy who is doing his best but differs in his opinion from you about the most effective way to promote the prosperity of the people.

 ...and being reasonable isnt something you have ever shown yourself capable of being.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 10, 2012, 07:30:55 PM
obama came from a middle class family, worked his way up in the world. just because he supports entitlement programs doesnt mean he feels entitled to anything.

but wait.. im expecting you to be reasonable and actually consider the idea that obama is a good guy who is doing his best but differs in his opinion from you about the most effective way to promote the prosperity of the people.

 ...and being reasonable isnt something you have ever shown yourself capable of being.

Why is obama a "good guy""?   Personally i think he is a drug addicted communist and radical freak show 


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: tbombz on October 10, 2012, 07:48:33 PM
dude, if he was so radical, why when he had control of congress did he pass a health reform act that was created by the conservative heritage foundation? why, if he is so radical, has his administration passed less new regulations that the bush administration did ? why, if he is so radical, has he went after legal(by state law) medical marijuana dispensaries?  why, if he is so radical, are the tax increases he is proposing only a meager 3% increase and only on the top 2% of earners?   why, if he is so radical, is he willing to cut government expenditures at double the rate by which he wished to increase tax revenue ?


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 10, 2012, 07:52:54 PM
dude, if he was so radical, why when he had control of congress did he pass a health reform act that was created by the conservative heritage foundation? why, if he is so radical, has his administration passed less new regulations that the bush administration did ? why, if he is so radical, has he went after legal(by state law) medical marijuana dispensaries?  why, if he is so radical, are the tax increases he is proposing only a meager 3% increase and only on the top 2% of earners?   why, if he is so radical, is he willing to cut government expenditures at double the rate by which he wished to increase tax revenue ?

Ask Bob Woodward who said obama and obama alone is the cause of the debt downgrade 


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: tbombz on October 10, 2012, 08:04:01 PM
Ask Bob Woodward who said obama and obama alone is the cause of the debt downgrade 
sure, just spent a good 20 minutes of my time reading up on this, your misrepresenting what he said, he said he ultimately laid the blame on obama for not building relationships with republicans, but he also laid alot of blame on boehner and the republicans as well.   anyways, whats so radical about wanting a debt deal that includes 1 dollar of tax increases for every 2 dollars of spending cuts ??  ??? 


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 10, 2012, 08:05:07 PM
sure, just spent a good 20 minutes of my time reading up on this, your misrepresenting what he said, he said he ultimately laid the blame on obama for not building relationships with republicans, but he also laid alot of blame on boehner and the republicans as well.   anyways, whats so radical about wanting a debt deal that includes 1 dollar of tax increases for every 2 dollars of spending cuts ??  ??? 

Because obama has no intention of cutting spending and his spending increases dwarf the additional revenues. 


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: tbombz on October 10, 2012, 08:08:59 PM
 ::)

his plan cuts the defecit by 4 trillion dollars and does so by cutting 2 dollars of spending for every 1 dollar generated in new tax revenue


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 10, 2012, 08:10:15 PM
::)

his plan cuts the defecit by 4 trillion dollars and does so by cutting 2 dollars of spending for every 1 dollar generated in new tax revenue

Pure bullshit!!!! 

Those occur after he long leaves office.   


Only a delusional drug addict believes his lies any more


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: tonymctones on October 10, 2012, 08:54:15 PM
::)

his plan cuts the defecit by 4 trillion dollars and does so by cutting 2 dollars of spending for every 1 dollar generated in new tax revenue
hhahaha youre a fucking idiot,

1 trillion is already set to go into place as a result of both dems and reps in congress.

2 trillion are b/c he plans to stop borrowing for iraq/afghanistan - how the fuck do you count not borrowing 2 trillion as cutting spending?

so he has 1 trillion he will really cut, now what is he going to cut?


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: tbombz on October 10, 2012, 09:14:44 PM
whose decision is it to end the wars? hell, mitt is talking about the "mistake" obama made in pulling troops out of iraq. you think he would pull out the troops in afghanistan as well?  yes, cutting  those expenditures is part of obama's plan.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: tonymctones on October 10, 2012, 09:31:33 PM
whose decision is it to end the wars? hell, mitt is talking about the "mistake" obama made in pulling troops out of iraq. you think he would pull out the troops in afghanistan as well?  yes, cutting  those expenditures is part of obama's plan.
well it was BUSH'S, you fuking twit...

at any rate that doesnt answer the question moron, how does he get credit for cutting spending by not borrowing the money?

that doesnt cut spending it just slows the borrowing, thats not the same.....

if he wants to say he is borrowing less thats fine, but he isnt cutting spending...

you also didnt address the fact that 1 trillion is going to go into effect even if he isnt in office, should romney get to count those spending cuts to?


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: tbombz on October 10, 2012, 10:33:23 PM
the distinction your trying to make is meaningless.

federal spending would be trillions higher if it wasnt for obama's decision to pull out of iraq and afghanistan, thus effectively cutting spending by trillions.


you want to argue about the 4 trillion number ??  whatever..  the exact amount isnt really the issue...   the issue is whether obama is willing to cut spending.. by your own admittance he wants  to cut spending by 1 trillion not counting the decrease caused by ending the wars.. 


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: Papper on October 10, 2012, 11:35:18 PM
So for the US it's between a rock or a hard place? Two parties.. Cut and dried? (No bb pun intended)


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: tbombz on October 10, 2012, 11:40:29 PM
So for the US it's between a rock or a hard place? Two parties.. Cut and dried? (No bb pun intended)
i think our two parties do a great job balancing between our diverse views, individualism(conservative) and collectivism(liberal), tradition(conservative) and science(liberal). there are other things that can be addressed to improve the situation. changing the two party system.. i dont think its going to be the change we need.


Title: Re: Why are people acting like Romney is the solutions
Post by: whork on October 11, 2012, 02:55:55 AM
Let me make this very easy: 

Obama = 100% disaster

Romnay = 75%-100% disaster.

Most of us are voting for the 25% chance he wont suck. 



Romney could make it worse.His spending is away bigger than Obama and he doesnt want to cut anything. But the debt and deficit is only an issue when you have dem in office