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Good show it was. Ryan that smarmy little fuck, got put in his place big time.
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No, not really.
Good troll attempt, though. Been about two weeks since your last one so we were overdue.
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No, not really.
Good troll attempt, though. Been about two weeks since your last one so we were overdue.
This oughta help.
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Good show it was. Ryan that smarmy little fuck, got put in his place big time.
Biden lied his fucking ass off on Lybia. Do you not care about that?
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6:38 LOLZERS
Biden absolutely destroyed pipsqueak.
Republicans are whiners and this Ryan, is pure whiner smarmy schmuck. He is more Smarmy than Layne Norton even and thats pretty bad.
You guys can`t be serious and pretend to like him. I know you are just joking.
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Fact Check: Top Ten Worst Lies by Joe Biden in VP Debate
by Joel B. Pollak
12 Oct 2012
Once again, Joe Biden lied his way through a Vice Presidential debate--just as he did in his contest with Sarah Palin in 2008. This time, the media caught a few of Biden's worst "malarkey" moments--as did his opponent, Paul Ryan, when he could get a word in edgewise.
Here are the top ten worst lies told by Biden during the debate:
10. "With all due respect, that’s a bunch of malarkey....not a single thing he said is accurate." At the outset of the debate, Biden tried to paint Ryan as a liar--when Biden, in fact, was the one lying. Ryan had pointed out: 1) that the White House had distanced itself from the Cairo embassy's apologies on 9/11; 2) that Obama had failed to speak up for Iranian protestors in 2009; 3) that the Obama administration called Syria's dictator a "reformer"; 4) and that the Obama administration is imposing defense cuts and projecting weakness. All of that is true.
9. "The president has met with Bibi [Netanyahu] a dozen times....This is a bunch of stuff." While they have met several times--not a dozen--that includes a meeting at which Obama made the Israeli prime minister enter the White House through a back entrance, refused to take a picture with him, and left him on his own for dinner. Specifically, Ryan had criticized Obama's refusal to meet Netanyahu in New York last month, and to tape talk show interviews instead--a clear snub that sent the wrong signal, again, to Israel's enemies.
8. "Just let the taxes expire like they’re supposed to on those millionaires." Biden's "millionaires" are actually households earning more than $250,000 a year, which includes many middle-class families with two earners, and small business owners in particular who report business earnings as personal income. Biden and Obama have repeatedly labeled those earning over $250,000 as "millionaires and billionaires," distorting the actual impact of their tax plan on the non-millionaires it would hit hardest, who create a vast proportion of small business jobs.
7. "You know, I heard that death panel argument from Sarah Palin. It seems that every vice presidential debate, I hear this kind of stuff about panels." Biden's cheap shot against Palin was an attempt to diminish both her and the man sitting across from him. But Palin never talked about "death panels" in her debate with Biden, for the simple reason that Obamacare had not yet been proposed. Nor did Ryan mention "death panels"--he had addressed the undeniable fact that Obamacare proposes a board to impose cost controls.
6. "The congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for." Biden's lie about Ryan's budget was an attempt to dodge responsibility for lax embassy security--and to cover up that the Obama called for new cuts to embassy security just days after the 9/11 attacks. Ryan's proposal, which called for a 19% overall decrease in non-defense discretionary spending, does not even mention embassy security--the Obama campaign merely made up that number by applying 19% across the board.
5. "No, they are not four years closer to a nuclear weapon." Biden's attempt to lie about the glaring reality of the Iranian nuclear program fell flat. Iran is indeed four years closer to a nuclear weapon, and the Obama administration--believing it knew better than its predecessors--tried to reinvent the wheel on talks with Iran, causing frustration to our allies in Europe and the Middle East. Meeting after meeting this year has failed to produce results, and the loophole-filled sanctions, while hurting Iran somewhat, are not stopping its nuclear program.
4. "No religious institution, Catholic or otherwise...has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide. That is a fact." No, it is not a fact--it is the opposite of a fact, and saying "that is a fact" does not make it any less a blatant lie. The Obama administration is forcing religious institutions to provide contraceptive and abortion drugs through their insurance policies. That is the reason several dozen religious institutions are suing the administration to defend their First Amendment freedom of religion.
3. "It came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card...I was there. I voted against him." Biden voted for both the Iraq war and the Afghanistan war. He did not vote for George W. Bush's plan to extend coverage of Medicare to prescription drugs (though he voted for an earlier, similar proposal), nor did he vote for the Bush tax cuts. But he voted for both of the wars he derided last night. To quote Bill Clinton's speech to the Democratic National Convention: "It takes some brass to attack a guy for doing what you did."
2. "What we did is we saved $716 billion and put it back -- applied it to Medicare." Biden repeated the lie the Obama administration has been telling since before Obamacare passed in 2010: that cuts to Medicare today were savings that extend the life of the program. They would be--if the same $716 billion wasn't also being used to pay for Obamacare. As Ryan pointed out in 2010, and again last night, you can't double-count the same cuts. Taking $716 billion out of Medicare means exactly that--and hurts, not helps, the program's solvency.
1. "Well, we weren’t told they wanted more security again." Biden lied through his teeth about the fact that the administration--specifically, the State Department--had been told again and again that security on the ground in Libya, and in Benghazi in particular, was inadequate. The day before, in Congressional hearings on the Libya attacks, former regional security director Eric Nordstrom described his frustration with having those requests turned down by the government bureaucracy: "For me the Taliban is on the inside of the building."
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Fact Check: Top Ten Worst Lies by Joe Biden in VP Debate
by Joel B. Pollak
12 Oct 2012
Once again, Joe Biden lied his way through a Vice Presidential debate--just as he did in his contest with Sarah Palin in 2008. This time, the media caught a few of Biden's worst "malarkey" moments--as did his opponent, Paul Ryan, when he could get a word in edgewise.
Here are the top ten worst lies told by Biden during the debate:
10. "With all due respect, that’s a bunch of malarkey....not a single thing he said is accurate." At the outset of the debate, Biden tried to paint Ryan as a liar--when Biden, in fact, was the one lying. Ryan had pointed out: 1) that the White House had distanced itself from the Cairo embassy's apologies on 9/11; 2) that Obama had failed to speak up for Iranian protestors in 2009; 3) that the Obama administration called Syria's dictator a "reformer"; 4) and that the Obama administration is imposing defense cuts and projecting weakness. All of that is true.
9. "The president has met with Bibi [Netanyahu] a dozen times....This is a bunch of stuff." While they have met several times--not a dozen--that includes a meeting at which Obama made the Israeli prime minister enter the White House through a back entrance, refused to take a picture with him, and left him on his own for dinner. Specifically, Ryan had criticized Obama's refusal to meet Netanyahu in New York last month, and to tape talk show interviews instead--a clear snub that sent the wrong signal, again, to Israel's enemies.
8. "Just let the taxes expire like they’re supposed to on those millionaires." Biden's "millionaires" are actually households earning more than $250,000 a year, which includes many middle-class families with two earners, and small business owners in particular who report business earnings as personal income. Biden and Obama have repeatedly labeled those earning over $250,000 as "millionaires and billionaires," distorting the actual impact of their tax plan on the non-millionaires it would hit hardest, who create a vast proportion of small business jobs.
7. "You know, I heard that death panel argument from Sarah Palin. It seems that every vice presidential debate, I hear this kind of stuff about panels." Biden's cheap shot against Palin was an attempt to diminish both her and the man sitting across from him. But Palin never talked about "death panels" in her debate with Biden, for the simple reason that Obamacare had not yet been proposed. Nor did Ryan mention "death panels"--he had addressed the undeniable fact that Obamacare proposes a board to impose cost controls.
6. "The congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for." Biden's lie about Ryan's budget was an attempt to dodge responsibility for lax embassy security--and to cover up that the Obama called for new cuts to embassy security just days after the 9/11 attacks. Ryan's proposal, which called for a 19% overall decrease in non-defense discretionary spending, does not even mention embassy security--the Obama campaign merely made up that number by applying 19% across the board.
5. "No, they are not four years closer to a nuclear weapon." Biden's attempt to lie about the glaring reality of the Iranian nuclear program fell flat. Iran is indeed four years closer to a nuclear weapon, and the Obama administration--believing it knew better than its predecessors--tried to reinvent the wheel on talks with Iran, causing frustration to our allies in Europe and the Middle East. Meeting after meeting this year has failed to produce results, and the loophole-filled sanctions, while hurting Iran somewhat, are not stopping its nuclear program.
4. "No religious institution, Catholic or otherwise...has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide. That is a fact." No, it is not a fact--it is the opposite of a fact, and saying "that is a fact" does not make it any less a blatant lie. The Obama administration is forcing religious institutions to provide contraceptive and abortion drugs through their insurance policies. That is the reason several dozen religious institutions are suing the administration to defend their First Amendment freedom of religion.
3. "It came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card...I was there. I voted against him." Biden voted for both the Iraq war and the Afghanistan war. He did not vote for George W. Bush's plan to extend coverage of Medicare to prescription drugs (though he voted for an earlier, similar proposal), nor did he vote for the Bush tax cuts. But he voted for both of the wars he derided last night. To quote Bill Clinton's speech to the Democratic National Convention: "It takes some brass to attack a guy for doing what you did."
2. "What we did is we saved $716 billion and put it back -- applied it to Medicare." Biden repeated the lie the Obama administration has been telling since before Obamacare passed in 2010: that cuts to Medicare today were savings that extend the life of the program. They would be--if the same $716 billion wasn't also being used to pay for Obamacare. As Ryan pointed out in 2010, and again last night, you can't double-count the same cuts. Taking $716 billion out of Medicare means exactly that--and hurts, not helps, the program's solvency.
1. "Well, we weren’t told they wanted more security again." Biden lied through his teeth about the fact that the administration--specifically, the State Department--had been told again and again that security on the ground in Libya, and in Benghazi in particular, was inadequate. The day before, in Congressional hearings on the Libya attacks, former regional security director Eric Nordstrom described his frustration with having those requests turned down by the government bureaucracy: "For me the Taliban is on the inside of the building."
Did not read, but you have to admit, if you saw Paul Ryan in person, you would laugh at his smarmy face.
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Ryan reminds me of that moron "how the world works".
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Did not read, but you have to admit, if you saw Paul Ryan in person, you would laugh at his smarmy face.
As opposed to Bidens
FAKE Teeth
FAKE Hair
FAKE smile
FAKE skin
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As opposed to Bidens
FAKE Teeth
FAKE Hair
FAKE smile
FAKE skin
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I met Biden in person, he looks like an older Hollywood actor. He was also funny as hell and his personality really shined.
Paul Ryan is a little light in the loafers and has a stick up his ass at all times. He has a child`s voice and looks like a comical Eddie Munster. Sounds like a straight up bitch.
Trust me, I know you`d rather hang out with Biden than Ryan any day. Ryan is annoying momma`s boy and it really shows.
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I met Biden in person, he looks like an older Hollywood actor. He was also funny as hell and his personality really shined.
Paul Ryan is a little light in the loafers and has a stick up his ass at all times. He has a child`s voice and looks like a comical Eddie Munster. Sounds like a straight up bitch.
Trust me, I know you`d rather hang out with Biden than Ryan any day. Ryan is annoying momma`s boy and it really shows.
Oh yeah - cause who i want to "hang out with" is how I consider my vote. ::)
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Oh yeah - cause who i want to "hang out with" is how I consider my vote. ::)
That was a big factor with Sarah Palin.
Votes aside, you would rather hang out with Biden right and you would laugh at Ryan and his 12 inch arms. Am I right?
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That was a big factor with Sarah Palin.
Votes aside, you would rather hang out with Biden right and you would laugh at Ryan and his 12 inch arms. Am I right?
Guys wanted to bang palin not hang out with her.
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Did not read, but you have to admit, if you saw Paul Ryan in person, you would laugh at his smarmy face.
Eh, I'd argue that Biden had the much more punchable face last night, especially with all the forced laughs and idiotic grins.
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Guys wanted to bang palin not hang out with her.
Very true.
Republicans need someone like Clint Eastwood, not these two limp wristed bumfucks- Romney and Ryan.
Richard Nixon would have pissed all over these two.
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Eh, I'd argue that Biden had the much more punchable face last night, especially with all the forced laughs and idiotic grins.
Munster Ryan`s voice and cadence just scream smarmy bitch. He has those beady little eyes and whiny voice. Sounds like some dorky blogger with a limp wrist.
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24 minutes in "I sure do", "You don`t read the statistics, thats not how its going"
LolZERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSS
Biden is king there.
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http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-slips-vice-presidents-debate-023354584--election.html
TA- Biden lied his ass off. But believe what you want.
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http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-slips-vice-presidents-debate-023354584--election.html
TA- Biden lied his ass off. But believe what you want.
Why all of sudden cite Factcheckers. I thought we agreed to not have them dictate anything?
Biden destroyed Munster Ryan.
Its time the Republicans reorganize and drop schmucks like Romney and Ryan. Losing would be the best thing at this point.
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Good show it was. Ryan that smarmy little fuck, got put in his place big time.
LOL.
Everyone was so focused on what an ass Biden made of himself by his condescending and disrespectful smiling and body language no one can remember what he was talking about other than that...the polls show different than your opinion. Imo, Ryan won although not by much.
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Why all of sudden cite Factcheckers. I thought we agreed to not have them dictate anything?
Biden destroyed Munster Ryan.
Its time the Republicans reorganize and drop schmucks like Romney and Ryan. Losing would be the best thing at this point.
Biden lied his ass off on libya! 4 dead americans and you dont give a fuck at all?
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Biden looked like the drunk uncle at Thanksgiving....yammerin g on and on and completey oblivious to the fact taht no one takes him seriously....
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Biden lied his ass off on libya! 4 dead americans and you dont give a fuck at all?
To be honest, not really. Its part of the Hazard when working with Muslim idiots, so its expected and doesn`t suprise me whatsoever.
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LOL.
Everyone was so focused on what an ass Biden made of himself by his condescending and disrespectful smiling and body language no one can remember what he was talking about other than that...the polls show different than your opinion. Imo, Ryan won although not by much.
Biden destroyed Layne Norton last night. You know its true.
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To be honest, not really. Its part of the Hazard when working with Muslim idiots, so its expected and doesn`t suprise me whatsoever.
At least you are honest about not caring if obama and biden lie about dead americans.
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At least you are honest about not caring if obama and biden lie about dead americans.
I think its even better to blame it on a Youtube video and the protests. What that does is, put guilt on the entire religion and all of the morons rather than single out individuals.
This is a better way for the world to see how loony Muslims really are. Blaming a few individuals only marginalizes the real problem which is radical Islam.
So yes, let that stupid fucking religion take all the blame and let the protesters take the blame. Lets not reduce it to just a few people.
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To be honest, not really. Its part of the Hazard when working with Muslim idiots, so its expected and doesn`t suprise me whatsoever.
This is essentially what David Axelrod said yesterday...and it completely undercuts the Obama Adinistration's argument that they didn't know or realize that more security was needed.
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The o.p. is trying to convince himself of something that is not true. Poor bastard.
So, Biden interrupting Ryan 80 times and snickering through the entire time won him the debate.
Now, Romney knows what to do in order to clobber Obama a second time.
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Biden shut Layne Norton down time and time again. This really was a great debate. How could anyone even consider voting for that schmuck and the faux "Conservative" Romney. Is this REALLY who represents the Republican party best? Is this the cream of their crop?
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The o.p. is trying to convince himself of something that is not true. Poor bastard.
So, Biden interrupting Ryan 80 times and snickering through the entire time won him the debate.
Now, Romney knows what to do in order to clobber Obama a second time.
You and I both know that Layne Norton looked like a cry baby up there against Biden. You ever see that goofy fuck, "how the world works" on youtube. Lee Doren I think his name is. Tell me, whats the difference between that smarmy fuck, Layne Norton and Paul Ryan? I think they are all the same people. ;D
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I didn't watch it, however one thing I am sure of is that absolutely NO specifics about the RR "plan" was ever revealed. Most likely they just kept claiming to have a plan, but offered no details.
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I didn't watch it, however one thing I am sure of is that absolutely NO specifics about the RR "plan" was ever revealed. Most likely they just kept claiming to have a plan, but offered no details.
Watch my link when you get a chance. Its the entire debate. Biden destroyed Layne Norton.
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You and I both know that Layne Norton looked like a cry baby up there against Biden. You ever see that goofy fuck, "how the world works" on youtube. Lee Doren I think his name is. Tell me, whats the difference between that smarmy fuck, Layne Norton and Paul Ryan? I think they are all the same people. ;D
Just when I thought you couldn't reach a lower level of stupidity, you surprise me.
Biden couldn't argue against the failures of the administration outlined by Ryan. Ryan destroyed obama care, showed the incompetence of dems to pass a budget and showed that Dems lied about Mitt's economic policies.
What was Biden's response? "I hope I get as much time as he does to respond!" (snicker, snicker)
IF you think that is winning, then you need to stick to creating that anti-gravity suit.
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Watch my link when you get a chance. Its the entire debate. Biden destroyed Layne Norton.
So what details of the RR plan did Ryan reveal? Or is it still a big secret?
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:)
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So what details of the RR plan did Ryan reveal? Or is it still a big secret?
Absolutely none. It was hilarious at that point.
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I didn't watch it, however one thing I am sure of is that absolutely NO specifics about the RR "plan" was ever revealed. Most likely they just kept claiming to have a plan, but offered no details.
You shouldn't be posting if you didn't watch it.
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:)
HAHAHAHAAH!!!
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We need to get a Photoshop of Layne Norton in Ryan`s place. That would be epic!
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You shouldn't be posting if you didn't watch it.
Ryan shouldn't be debating if he didn't explain anything.
Ever thought of that pissant?
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Absolutely none. It was hilarious at that point.
Oh. So in other words when asked point blank about it, he simply talked about the plan, danced around the plan, talked about the question he was asked about the plan, but didn't say anything about what the plan was?
You mean just like they have been doing all along?
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Damage Control: Obama Campaign Tries to Spin Biden's Bizarre Debate Behavior
breitbart.com ^ | 10/12/12 | Joel B. Pollak
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 11:25:27 AM by Justaham
The Obama campaign is struggling to respond to mounting criticism of Vice President Joe Biden's bizarre behavior during last night's debate with Rep. Paul Ryan.
Biden not only interrupted Ryan frequently--82 times, according to Republican National Committee chair Reince Priebus--but frequently laughed, smirked, and snorted at serious moments, showing contempt for his opponent and disturbing even friendly observers.
A CNN poll conducted after the debate, which handed Ryan a narrow 48%-44% victory, also showed that Ryan had beaten Biden by an even wider margin when it came to "likeability." Viewers in the poll--with an admittedly small sample-- also said Ryan "expressed his views more clearly," "was more in touch with the needs and problems of people like you," and "did a better job of defending his running mate."
The only category in which Biden defeated Ryan? "Spent more time attacking his opponent."
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
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Oh. So in other words when asked point blank about it, he simply talked about the plan, danced around the plan, talked about the question he was asked about the plan, but didn't say anything about what the plan was?
You mean just like they have been doing all along?
Yup.
Biden made him look like a disgruntled child up there. It was hilarious.
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Yup.
Biden made him look like a disgruntled child up there. It was hilarious.
Well that isn't exactly hard to do.
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There are term limits. What was that hag talking about?
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Krauthammer: Biden Was So Disrespectful And Condescending, It Was Unprecedented
Charles Krauthammer on the debate: I think the debate happened at several levels. If you read the transcript, I think it's dead even. If you heard it on radio, Biden won. If you watched on television, he lost. In the transcript, if you just look at the raw arguments I think it was even because each side had points to make and made them. I think on balance, not one side was stronger than another.
If you heard it on radio, what you heard was Biden being aggressive, forceful, he was sort of on the attack all the time and he pushed the argument his way. He did a lot of interrupting as well. And Ryan reacted with I thought excessive deference, allowing himself to be cut off and often just ending with a point that you might understand, for instance when he talked about the Catholic Bishops, he made a point after Biden had said, 'Oh, the Bishops of the Catholic church is not going to be compelled to do anything under Obamacare.' Ryan said, 'Then why is that the Bishops are suing the administration?' But that is almost an aside and it was lost and then it was over by the next question.
If you put them all together and you end up with television where you saw the demeanor that the Vice President had in regard to Ryan, I think that undid the advantage in rhetoric that he had in carrying the debate. It was so disrespectful. I agree with Chris Wallace, it was sort of almost unprecedented and hugely condescending. I think that undid the force of his arguments and I think in the end, if television, you lose.
On if the debate moved the needle: I don't and the reason is that whether you decide that the Vice President won or lost, people don't end up in the booth voting for number two. So if you like one, he was likable, the other wasn't. I don't think it has any affect whatsoever on the vote. The question is will it affect the debates that are coming up, that's the real heavyweight stuff between Obama and Romney. And I think that the objective, perhaps the one advantage that Biden laid down is that in the actual arguments he made the points that had been left out of the first debate. What he was trying to do is set the premises for the upcoming debates by filling in the blanks, by answering the charges Romney made in Obama had left unanswered. The 47%. Repeating the $5 trillions of debt. True, or untrue, it was reenforcing the Democratic arguments which had been completely undermined in the first debate. And as a result, Obama has been sinking in the polls. So I think that he might have staunched the bleeding to some extent on the substance that Romney had attacked Obama on. And now, it's all up to the heavy weights in the last two rounds of the fight.
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This is winning?
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Krauthammer: Biden Was So Disrespectful And Condescending, It Was Unprecedented
Charles Krauthammer on the debate: I think the debate happened at several levels. If you read the transcript, I think it's dead even. If you heard it on radio, Biden won. If you watched on television, he lost. In the transcript, if you just look at the raw arguments I think it was even because each side had points to make and made them. I think on balance, not one side was stronger than another.
If you heard it on radio, what you heard was Biden being aggressive, forceful, he was sort of on the attack all the time and he pushed the argument his way. He did a lot of interrupting as well. And Ryan reacted with I thought excessive deference, allowing himself to be cut off and often just ending with a point that you might understand, for instance when he talked about the Catholic Bishops, he made a point after Biden had said, 'Oh, the Bishops of the Catholic church is not going to be compelled to do anything under Obamacare.' Ryan said, 'Then why is that the Bishops are suing the administration?' But that is almost an aside and it was lost and then it was over by the next question.
If you put them all together and you end up with television where you saw the demeanor that the Vice President had in regard to Ryan, I think that undid the advantage in rhetoric that he had in carrying the debate. It was so disrespectful. I agree with Chris Wallace, it was sort of almost unprecedented and hugely condescending. I think that undid the force of his arguments and I think in the end, if television, you lose.
On if the debate moved the needle: I don't and the reason is that whether you decide that the Vice President won or lost, people don't end up in the booth voting for number two. So if you like one, he was likable, the other wasn't. I don't think it has any affect whatsoever on the vote. The question is will it affect the debates that are coming up, that's the real heavyweight stuff between Obama and Romney. And I think that the objective, perhaps the one advantage that Biden laid down is that in the actual arguments he made the points that had been left out of the first debate. What he was trying to do is set the premises for the upcoming debates by filling in the blanks, by answering the charges Romney made in Obama had left unanswered. The 47%. Repeating the $5 trillions of debt. True, or untrue, it was reenforcing the Democratic arguments which had been completely undermined in the first debate. And as a result, Obama has been sinking in the polls. So I think that he might have staunched the bleeding to some extent on the substance that Romney had attacked Obama on. And now, it's all up to the heavy weights in the last two rounds of the fight.
That is a stupid opinion.
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That is a stupid opinion.
That man shits turds smarter than you, boy.
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It would appear that Biden lost last night simply because the narrative today is "Biden's a jerk". The Democrats aren't talking about anything substantive from last night's debate...they're apologizing for Biden's drunk uncle act. That's a sure sign that the polling they're seeing shows that Biden's behaovoir was viewed negatively.
Obama/Biden are toast not just because they're policies are idiotic, incoherent and proven to be ineffective...they're toast because they don't have an ear for what the voting public views as important and they don't have an understanding of what America expects to see from its leadership.
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Biden lied his fucking ass off on Lybia. Do you not care about that?
I said it after debate #1, where mitt had some positions which were completely opposite of what he said in primaries - but were popular positions.
it's OKAY, it is normal, it is expceted for candidates to lie in debates. I wasn't mad at romney for shifting in the debate- if a voter is so stupid and low info that he/she will choose a candidate without learning policies of these candidates, well, they deserve to be duped.
Biden told some tall tales. Romney certainly did too. Obama too. It's what they do. I wasn't mad when romney did, i'm glad he did.
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I think its even better to blame it on a Youtube video and the protests. What that does is, put guilt on the entire religion and all of the morons rather than single out individuals.
This is a better way for the world to see how loony Muslims really are. Blaming a few individuals only marginalizes the real problem which is radical Islam.
So yes, let that stupid fucking religion take all the blame and let the protesters take the blame. Lets not reduce it to just a few people.
Which is exactly what the Dems have done! >:(
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Which is exactly what the Dems have done! >:(
Why would you want to give any quarter to them?
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Joe Biden interrupted Paul Ryan 82 times in 90 minutes. The Democrats have become the rude party
Telegraph - UK ^ | October 12, 2012 | Tim Stanley
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 3:38:04 PM
No one’s denying that Joe Biden delivered the more energetic performance in Thursday’s vice presidential debate. He interrupted Paul Ryan 82 times in 90 minutes. Yet some polls say that Ryan won and many pundits are calling it a draw. How come?
Two reasons. First, deconstruct the Biden bluster and some of what he said was nonsensical. In the first 10 minutes alone, Joe insisted that the US intelligence community was wrong on Libya but trustworthy on Iran. He claimed that the staff at the Benghazi embassy didn’t want extra security when lots of sources say that they begged for it. He seemed to rule out war with Iran under any circumstances, which would remove America’s one bargaining chip. As political klutzes go, Biden is to talking what Gerald Ford was to walking.
More importantly, Biden was rude. Perhaps he was trying to emulate Romney’s dominant performance from the week before. But where Romney was commanding, Biden was just insulting. The most damning moments came when the camera went split screen. On the right was Ryan trying to make a serious point about world peace. On the left was Biden laughing. The Vice President’s performance will doubtless rally the party faithful and give them a few applause lines to live off through to November. But it’s hard to imagine independents warming to these theatrics.
The Democrats have made the classic mistake of thinking that what they want to see is what everyone else wants to see. This isn’t peculiar to the Obama/Biden ticket but part of a long-term evolution. Back in 2000, Al Gore huffed and puffed his way angrily through a presidential debate and possibly cost his party the election. The Democrats ought to have learned from that, but .....
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Joe Biden interrupted Paul Ryan 82 times in 90 minutes. The Democrats have become the rude party
Telegraph - UK ^ | October 12, 2012 | Tim Stanley
that sounds a little butthurt.
It's what world leaders do. They're all dicks. Polite pushovers don't conquer.
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Conquer? Give me a fucking break...this is a country with elections. Elections are driven by ideas, not obnoxious old men making fools of themselves in front of millions of people.....unless, that's the only idea they have to work with.
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that sounds a little butthurt.
It's what world leaders do. They're all dicks. Polite pushovers don't conquer.
Tell that to Ryan, whom the viewers in those aforementioned polls said won the debate (unless you have some more recent data, to the contrary).
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Tell that to Ryan, whom the viewers in those aforementioned polls said won the debate (unless you have some more recent data, to the contrary).
biden is a walking joke. ryan is one of the most respected people in the GOP. The fact it wasn't a blowout is shocking to me.
Biden controlled it. Yes, he was obnoxious. yes, he told lies. But Ryan didn't control that room - you can't deny that.
Romney controlled that room during his debate. Biden controlled the room during his.
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Biden is one of the most respected politicians in Washington, especially among those in Capitol Hill. He has been a Senator since the legal age and has worked with everyone and knows everyone. He is also considered among the best by both Republicans and Democrats when it comes to Foreign Relations as he was Chairman for years.
The mis-characterization of Joe Biden is rather new and is a popular myth among the lunatic fringe. He is well respected among everyone in the Beltway and has earned his credentials.
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Biden is a deranged lunatic and a national embarrassment
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Biden is a deranged lunatic and a national embarrassment
i see him as a bit of a caring psycopath. Like, I honestly believe he cares about people. But I also believe he's insane, egomaniac, who lives on power and just revels in the attention he gets.
He did manhandle Ryan. He was rude, crass, immature. But he ran that motherfvcker. Ryan showed he's a staesman, but he's no veep attack dog like Palin or cheney.
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Biden is a deranged lunatic and a national embarrassment
Far from the truth. You do realize that he was one of the most respected Senators in Capitol Hill among both parties.
(http://www.conservativecommune.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/joe-biden-big-gun-feat.jpg)
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i see him as a bit of a caring psycopath. Like, I honestly believe he cares about people. But I also believe he's insane, egomaniac, who lives on power and just revels in the attention he gets.
He did manhandle Ryan. He was rude, crass, immature. But he ran that motherfvcker. Ryan showed he's a staesman, but he's no veep attack dog like Palin or cheney.
He`s not like that at all. Its a myth that only lunatic morons believe. He is friends with all these Republicans. He may disagree with them, but they really do like him and he actually does attempt to work with them and his record is pretty stellar in that respect.
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http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-slips-vice-presidents-debate-023354584--election.html
TA- Biden lied his ass off. But believe what you want.
He is like Romney in that regard. But you like the republicans lies dont you?
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Far from the truth. You do realize that he was one of the most respected Senators in Capitol Hill among both parties.
(http://www.conservativecommune.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/joe-biden-big-gun-feat.jpg)
Are you intentionally trolling today? Biden is a national joke.
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Are you intentionally trolling today? Biden is a national joke.
Nope. Its insane to think that one of the most respected Senators, who has been a Senator since age 30 and has worked with every single Presidential Administration since Richard Nixon with a stellar record to boot is to be considered a national joke.
Seriously, nobody in government, those who know him personally and have worked side by side with him, Republican and Democrat, would ever say that about him. Its hilarious to hear the lunatic fringe narrative of Biden take hold. I guess the more base the myth, the easier it is for gullible people to believe.
Biden wasn`t born yesterday and his candor is something we need more of.
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Are you intentionally trolling today? Biden is a national joke.
I would hope a president ryan wouldn't let world leaders control the dialogue like Biden was allowed to do.
I think we saw the difference last night - between romney and ryan. Romney actually has a huge set of brass balls. But the Paul Ryan we'll see in 10 years will seriously mop the floor with 2012 Paul Ryan. He was timid. Dick morris and other GOP stalwarts agreed.
It takes ass whoopings like this - being manhandled and controlled - to really grow out of his shell. Paul ryan damn sure will be stronger at the next debate, in 2016 for VP again, or for 2016 GOP race. He'll be a tough MFer then. He's not one now.
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I would hope a president ryan wouldn't let world leaders control the dialogue like Biden was allowed to do.
I think we saw the difference last night - between romney and ryan. Romney actually has a huge set of brass balls. But the Paul Ryan we'll see in 10 years will seriously mop the floor with 2012 Paul Ryan. He was timid. Dick morris and other GOP stalwarts agreed.
It takes ass whoopings like this - being manhandled and controlled - to really grow out of his shell. Paul ryan damn sure will be stronger at the next debate, in 2016 for VP again, or for 2016 GOP race. He'll be a tough MFer then. He's not one now.
Its not in him to be tough. He is a smarmy Layne Norton type. The DNA is just not there to be an alpha.
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Joe Biden would rather climb a tree to tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth...
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Good show it was. Ryan that smarmy little fuck, got put in his place big time.
you should have watched the debate last night. it was good.
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joe biden made paul ryan look like a complete fool when it came to national security. but thats to be expected, biden was the chair of the senate foreign relations committee for a decade.
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joe biden made paul ryan look like a complete fool when it came to national security. but thats to be expected, biden was the chair of the senate foreign relations committee for a decade.
ryan tried to weasel out by citing EAST afghanistan. You could see Biden's eyes light up. He KNEW Ryan had just blown it. And ryan's face went white, he knew it too. He kept making that uncomfortable smirk trying to defend a position he quickly realized he was wrong on. But he can't say "my bad, you're right on that one", because well, you can't say that.
We do have more afghans fighting in the worst areas, the way it SHOULD be. The awkward silence for 2 seconds after biden gets done schooling him - where it was ryan's turn to respond, and he just chose to smile and swallow... yeah, he got schooled there.
That was to be expected, youre right tbombz. No foreign policy experience on that ticket.
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joe biden made paul ryan look like a complete fool when it came to national security. but thats to be expected, biden was the chair of the senate foreign relations committee for a decade.
you do understand Biden was lying about that right? do you even care?
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you do understand Biden was lying about that right? do you even care?
LOL and what was he lying about ? ;D
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LOL and what was he lying about ? ;D
about beefing up security at the consulate in Libya. Biden said that no one asked for extra marine details to be there. And he was lying. And it is proven that he was lying. And you believe him anyway because well you're a bought and sold liberal and you believe everything he says. And then when someone points out that you believe a bunch of lies. you just LOL. and then wink at me.
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about beefing up security at the consulate in Libya. Biden said that no one asked for extra marine details to be there. And he was lying. And it is proven that he was lying. And you believe him anyway because well you're a bought and sold liberal and you believe everything he says. And then when someone points out that you believe a bunch of lies. you just LOL. and then wink at me.
So i take it you dont like lies?
Who do you think won the debate between Romney and Obama?
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So i take it you dont like lies?
Who do you think won the debate between Romney and Obama?
didn't watch it. I was buried at work. from what i heard Romney told a bunch of lies.
So is that your argument? Biden did not lie because "Romney lied"? Wow. The "they started it argument"? That argument makes sense to you? Really?
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didn't watch it. I was buried at work. from what i heard Romney told a bunch of lies.
So is that your argument? Biden did not lie because "Romney lied"? Wow. The "they started it argument"? That argument makes sense to you? Really?
Normally no its a stupid argument you are 100% correct.
However when you have the republican side that has built its entire campaign on lies it fells a bit odd that you single one out from Biden? Im just curious to your motives. But to your argument that a lie is a lie i agree 100%
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Normally no its a stupid argument you are 100% correct.
However when you have the republican side that has built its entire campaign on lies it fells a bit odd that you single one out from Biden? Im just curious to your motives. But to your argument that a lie is a lie i agree 100%
right republicans are the bad guys. democrats are the good guys. i forgot. seriously how old are you? do you really believe this shit? you are simply clinging to the opinion that "Romney lies more" because you're a liberal democrat for life. The fact is I can come up with a Obama lie for every Romney lie you come up with and you don't believe that because you just don't want to.
My take on this election is that i don't like what Obama is doing to this country and I haven't heard anything to make me believe that Romney can improve anything.
So I don't even know if i'm goign to vote at all. Why? Because I'm not being given the information i need to make an informed decision. And i'm not being given the inofrmation i need because these campaigns are directed towards lemmings like yourself who need to see everything as "good guy bad guy" because they're incapable of stepping back and looking at things like an adult should. you're a media baby. and your posts are ridiculous.
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Other than not being Obama, Romney doesn't have a plan. He keeps saying he does but hasn't yet given any specifics.
Doesn't matter who you vote for. You are going to get Obama in the office again. Whether it is the black Obama or the white Obama remains to be seen.
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Other than not being Obama, Romney doesn't have a plan. He keeps saying he does but hasn't yet given any specifics.
Doesn't matter who you vote for. You are going to get Obama in the office again. Whether it is the black Obama or the white Obama remains to be seen.
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can't help but agree.
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right republicans are the bad guys. democrats are the good guys. i forgot. seriously how old are you? do you really believe this shit? you are simply clinging to the opinion that "Romney lies more" because you're a liberal democrat for life. The fact is I can come up with a Obama lie for every Romney lie you come up with and you don't believe that because you just don't want to.
My take on this election is that i don't like what Obama is doing to this country and I haven't heard anything to make me believe that Romney can improve anything.
So I don't even know if i'm goign to vote at all. Why? Because I'm not being given the information i need to make an informed decision. And i'm not being given the inofrmation i need because these campaigns are directed towards lemmings like yourself who need to see everything as "good guy bad guy" because they're incapable of stepping back and looking at things like an adult should. you're a media baby. and your posts are ridiculous.
i'm being a total dick in this post. sorry. my family are hardcore conservatives. my friends are hardcore liberals. i just happen to be fed up with the latter currently.
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No, not really.
Good troll attempt, though. Been about two weeks since your last one so we were overdue.
na... that shit happened... that shit looked awful. But your mind was Prob made up before the debate started... ::)
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na... that shit happened... that shit looked awful. But your mind was Prob made up before the debate started... ::)
The problem is that Biden did what the far left fringe wanted but it turned off the women and indes and now obama is getting his ass handed to him in the polls.
Penny wise, dollar foolish.
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right republicans are the bad guys. democrats are the good guys. i forgot. seriously how old are you? do you really believe this shit? you are simply clinging to the opinion that "Romney lies more" because you're a liberal democrat for life. The fact is I can come up with a Obama lie for every Romney lie you come up with and you don't believe that because you just don't want to.
My take on this election is that i don't like what Obama is doing to this country and I haven't heard anything to make me believe that Romney can improve anything.
So I don't even know if i'm goign to vote at all. Why? Because I'm not being given the information i need to make an informed decision. And i'm not being given the inofrmation i need because these campaigns are directed towards lemmings like yourself who need to see everything as "good guy bad guy" because they're incapable of stepping back and looking at things like an adult should. you're a media baby. and your posts are ridiculous.
Not really i think Obama is a media whore and that we have better representatives for pres. However posting the lies of Biden vs an entire campaign where even their slogan is a lie is hard to take seriously. But i agree with you partisan BS is that doesnt matter what side you are on. So you win this one
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The problem is that Biden did what the far left fringe wanted but it turned off the women and indes and now obama is getting his ass handed to him in the polls.
Penny wise, dollar foolish.
Why did it turn off women? Whats the logical basis behind that? Jezebelle loved it.
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Why did it turn off women? Whats the logical basis behind that? Jezebelle loved it.
Go look at the Gallup poll released yesterday.
Romney has closed the gap w women and yet there is still the same massive man gap obama will never close.
Obama is done. Enjoy the last few weeks of this failed experimnet of putting the least qualified person at the most important job to assuage white guilt.
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Go look at the Gallup poll released yesterday.
Romney has closed the gap w women and yet there is still the same massive man gap obama will never close.
Obama is done. Enjoy the last few weeks of this failed experimnet of putting the least qualified person at the most important job to assuage white guilt.
Why do you think women were turned off though? I thought women were supposed to like a strong man. Paul Ryan is about the weakest gerbil, smarmy pipsqueak bitch there ever was.
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Why do you think women were turned off though? I thought women were supposed to like a strong man. Paul Ryan is about the weakest gerbil, smarmy pipsqueak bitch there ever was.
Biden did not come off as strong. He came across as a drunk nut job.
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Biden did not come off as strong. He came across as a drunk nut job.
I don`t think I have ever seen a drunk person that coherent and on point. He made Ryan his bitch, just like all the world leaders would do. He is a spineless coward.
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I don`t think I have ever seen a drunk person that coherent and on point. He made Ryan his bitch, just like all the world leaders would do. He is a spineless coward.
Well - like I said - he did what he did to tingle the legs of the MSNBC far left crowd - everyone else - not so much
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Well - like I said - he did what he did to tingle the legs of the MSNBC far left crowd - everyone else - not so much
If you could have your dream ticket, who would it consist of?
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Biden did not come off as strong. He came across as a drunk nut job.
Only to lib idiots does interrupting someone 80+ times and complaining about debate time somehow show strength.
The true evidence of who lost the debate is the fact that the lasting impression was of the old fool laughing like a pre-teen little girl, while Ryan was articulate and displayed a deep understanding of the economic issues.
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If you could have your dream ticket, who would it consist of?
Paul / Christie
Christie / Rand Paul
West / Cain
Paul / Paul
Any of those would have been a ok by me.
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Only to lib idiots does interrupting someone 80+ times and complaining about debate time somehow show strength.
The true evidence of who lost the debate is the fact that the lasting impression was of the old fool laughing like a pre-teen little girl, while Ryan was articulate and displayed a deep understanding of the economic issues.
Ryan was inarticulate, stammering, unable to answer the most basic questions. He was Pwned so badly. I like how Republicans think Mitt Romney interrupting is somehow seen as strength, but when Joe Biden does it much better and much more powerful, the Republicans turn back into small children and babies and cry "you are mean and rude".
Republicans are weaklings in all areas.
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Only to lib idiots does interrupting someone 80+ times and complaining about debate time somehow show strength.
The true evidence of who lost the debate is the fact that the lasting impression was of the old fool laughing like a pre-teen little girl, while Ryan was articulate and displayed a deep understanding of the economic issues.
Good one.
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Paul / Christie
Christie / Rand Paul
West / Cain
Paul / Paul
Any of those would have been a ok by me.
Christie is pretty reasonable sometimes. He actually praises Obama from time to time.
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Ryan was inarticulate, stammering, unable to answer the most basic questions. He was Pwned so badly. I like how Republicans think Mitt Romney interrupting is somehow seen as strength, but when Joe Biden does it much better and much more powerful, the Republicans turn back into small children and babies and cry "you are mean and rude".
Republicans are weaklings in all areas.
+10000
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Only to lib idiots does interrupting someone 80+ times and complaining about debate time somehow show strength.
The true evidence of who lost the debate is the fact that the lasting impression was of the old fool laughing like a pre-teen little girl, while Ryan was articulate and displayed a deep understanding of the economic issues.
Ahhahahhhaaaa please
Could you for once make a post without checking FOX first so you know what to think?
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