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Title: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 17, 2012, 05:41:11 PM
Everyone was saying to have some fructose (I think?) post workout, and protein.

Just wondered if you guys still think that's helpful or it was just bullshit? 

How much protein can a person really absorb in one serving without wasting any of it?  How much protein/fructose do you recommend post workout?

???


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Marty Champions on October 17, 2012, 05:55:55 PM
protien fat carb that pretty much covers it bro not much else to consume in this life  :'(


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 17, 2012, 06:10:40 PM
protien fat carb that pretty much covers it bro not much else to consume in this life  :'(

Thanks brother, sometimes my judgement is clouded. 


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 17, 2012, 06:25:26 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTY9RYyVHBU


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Hulkotron on October 17, 2012, 06:26:36 PM
I like to eat when I'm hungry and sometimes when I'm not I'll eat too if it tastes really good.


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 17, 2012, 06:28:06 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTY9RYyVHBU

Good point


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 17, 2012, 06:31:45 PM
I like to eat when I'm hungry and sometimes when I'm not I'll eat too if it tastes really good.

Very helpful, thanks!  8)


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 17, 2012, 07:02:26 PM
without added calcium, your protein uptake will be shit.


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 17, 2012, 07:03:19 PM
without added calcium, your protein uptake will be shit.

I take a calcium/zinc supplement.

I almost drowned a girl in cum the other night...  :-[


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 17, 2012, 10:43:33 PM
Keep your abs tight during your post workout meal.


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: beverast on October 17, 2012, 10:54:58 PM
Won't make a noticeable difference, but fructose replenishes liver and muscle glycogen faster than any other monosaccharide because of priority processing in the liver. Be aware of the fact that fructose does not elicit an insulin response, since the beta cells in the pancreas don't have a receptor for fructose. Without a brutal post workout insulin surge, your workout was a waste. Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: tbombz on October 17, 2012, 11:38:31 PM
Everyone was saying to have some fructose (I think?) post workout, and protein.

Just wondered if you guys still think that's helpful or it was just bullshit? 

How much protein can a person really absorb in one serving without wasting any of it?  How much protein/fructose do you recommend post workout?

???
you might have some issues digesting that fructose unless you include some glucose along with it. 30% of people suffer from fructose malabsorbtion , a condition where the fructose-glucose ratio usually needs to be at least 1-1 in order for the fructose to absorb.

that being said, protein content of post workout shake would depend upon protein content of the pre workout meal and post workout meal.  if you ate a good amount of protein a couple hours before the workout, you dont need a post workout protein shake.. just eat some protein again in your next meal. if you hadnt had much protein pre workout then a 20 gram whey protein shake would be a good idea...  40 or 60 grams if your not going to get some solid food in for a while.   

carb intake depends on cutting/bulking goals..     not sure why you want to add fructose.. there are potential benefits.. for example if you are on a low carb diet adding bits of fructose thorughout the day can be very beneficial..  doesnt act like a normal carb.. it might actually reduce blood sugar and insulin, not increase...   and preserve liver glycogen which has a host of positive effects..    but if bulking or just dieting on a regular diet (not carb restricted) than i think a glucose based carb would be better post workout... but then again.. i thnk if your dieting your better off just sticking to a whole food meal instead of shakes anyways..



Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 18, 2012, 12:27:39 AM
you might have some issues digesting that fructose unless you include some glucose along with it. 30% of people suffer from fructose malabsorbtion , a condition where the fructose-glucose ratio usually needs to be at least 1-1 in order for the fructose to absorb.

that being said, protein content of post workout shake would depend upon protein content of the pre workout meal and post workout meal.  if you ate a good amount of protein a couple hours before the workout, you dont need a post workout protein shake.. just eat some protein again in your next meal. if you hadnt had much protein pre workout then a 20 gram whey protein shake would be a good idea...  40 or 60 grams if your not going to get some solid food in for a while.   

carb intake depends on cutting/bulking goals..     not sure why you want to add fructose.. there are potential benefits.. for example if you are on a low carb diet adding bits of fructose thorughout the day can be very beneficial..  doesnt act like a normal carb.. it might actually reduce blood sugar and insulin, not increase...   and preserve liver glycogen which has a host of positive effects..    but if bulking or just dieting on a regular diet (not carb restricted) than i think a glucose based carb would be better post workout... but then again.. i thnk if your dieting your better off just sticking to a whole food meal instead of shakes anyways..

Thank you tbombz, very helpful!!!

You are indeed knowledgeable!!!


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: booty on October 18, 2012, 12:30:03 AM
I take a calcium/zinc supplement.

I almost drowned a girl in cum the other night...  :-[
Um okay.   :o


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 18, 2012, 12:31:38 AM
Um okay.   :o

 :-[

I wouldn't have made such a vulgar, and disgusting comment had I known a lady was present.


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 12:38:32 AM
She actually wants further explanation, as do I. What happened exactly?


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 12:51:38 AM
Thank you tbombz, very helpful!!!

You are indeed knowledgeable!!!
your welcome


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: booty on October 18, 2012, 12:53:33 AM
:-[

I wouldn't have made such a vulgar, and disgusting comment had I known a lady was present.
Come on, I always read and comment in your threads PIP.   ;D  You wanted to make me back up in the thread and re read that.   :D

 :P


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: booty on October 18, 2012, 12:54:40 AM
She actually wants further explanation, as do I. What happened exactly?
Yes Moen I do.  I have read all my penthouse readers stories and need some new material.   :P


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: BigCyp on October 18, 2012, 03:36:13 AM
Won't make a noticeable difference, but fructose replenishes liver and muscle glycogen faster than any other monosaccharide because of priority processing in the liver. Be aware of the fact that fructose does not elicit an insulin response, since the beta cells in the pancreas don't have a receptor for fructose. Without a brutal post workout insulin surge, your workout was a waste. Hope this helps.

Ok Will.


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Hulkotron on October 18, 2012, 04:04:59 AM
Beta cells oh brother


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 05:53:36 AM
Everyone was saying to have some fructose (I think?) post workout, and protein.

Just wondered if you guys still think that's helpful or it was just bullshit? 

How much protein can a person really absorb in one serving without wasting any of it?  How much protein/fructose do you recommend post workout?

???

That depends. How fast is your metabolism? How much mass are you carrying? How long have you been training?

If you want a basic starting point, I'd say to go with 30 grams of protein and 50-60 grams of simple carbs. Don't get bent around the axle, about fructose vs. dextrose or whatever. Same goes for protein; don't obsess about consuming cross-filtered, ion-exchange, hydrolyzed, smack-it-up-flip-it-rub-it-down whey protein (unless you can get it cheap on clearance  ;D ).

I've used those Odwalla Protein Monster smoothies, from time to time, as a post-workout drink. As long as you get the protein and carbs in your system within 45-60 minutes after you finished hitting the iron, you'll be fine.


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: hipolito mejia on October 18, 2012, 06:05:04 AM
25-30  grams of protein per serving ....of course when youre a teenager you think if you take 75 grams in one serving you'll look like Ronnie Coleman.....but you learn later.


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 07:34:48 AM
25-30  grams of protein per serving ....of course when youre a teenager you think if you take 75 grams in one serving you'll look like Ronnie Coleman.....but you learn later.

You can consume a bit more, as you get bigger and stronger. With that said, I wouldn't go beyond 50 grams per one serving.

Former Mr. Olympia, Franco Columbu, mentioned something like this in a video I posted several weeks back (10:25 - 13:31); the video is nearly an hour long).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2sMOsUvZHU


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 18, 2012, 09:28:08 AM
Thank you sir, very helpful!!!


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 18, 2012, 09:29:10 AM
Come on, I always read and comment in your threads PIP.   ;D  You wanted to make me back up in the thread and re read that.   :D

 :P

Thanks, you make the getbig sausage fest much more interesting.   8)


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Marty Champions on October 18, 2012, 12:54:16 PM
beta cell falcons!


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Marty Champions on October 18, 2012, 12:55:11 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTY9RYyVHBU

fuck man he nearly crippled him


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Marty Champions on October 18, 2012, 12:57:48 PM
dont know why people try to trade shots with tyson, best bet is the let the wild beast black man punch himself out

just like in my boxing game i got my guy 6feet2  and i dont go wearing myself out on a stronger bigger opponent


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 18, 2012, 01:37:48 PM
dont know why people try to trade shots with tyson, best bet is the let the wild beast black man punch himself out

just like in my boxing game i got my guy 6feet2  and i dont go wearing myself out on a stronger bigger opponent
You got play Tyson when he was good like Ali did "rope a dope" just cover yourself and let him punch his self out then take over. You cant stand to "toe to toe" the first few rounds.


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: booty on October 18, 2012, 02:00:36 PM
Thanks, you make the getbig sausage fest much more interesting.   8)
You're welcome. 


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 18, 2012, 02:10:17 PM
Everyone was saying to have some fructose (I think?) post workout, and protein.

Just wondered if you guys still think that's helpful or it was just bullshit? 

How much protein can a person really absorb in one serving without wasting any of it?  How much protein/fructose do you recommend post workout?

???

Not this discussion -> shit -> war again  :-\


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on October 18, 2012, 02:13:55 PM
:-[

I wouldn't have made such a vulgar, and disgusting comment had I known a lady was present.

Yes, Booty, had he known, PIP never would have uttered such vulgarity.

Although he's naturally disinclined to draw attention to his many chivalrous displays, PIP has, to use just one example, ruined so many of his coats by laying them over mud and puddles for fair damsels and wizened crones alike. This is no small act, for it is exceedingly difficult for PIP to find an appropriate wardrobe replacement, given the generous and symmetrical proportions of his fit, 48-long coat size. Indeed, PIP's courteous acts have even taken adverbial life by entering our modern vernacular as behaving 'pippingly,' as in, "What a gallant young man, behaving so pippingly and with splendid aplomb." Modesty might prohibit PIP from singing his own praises, but he's no less than the Sir Walter Raleigh of our time. Hand to God.


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: booty on October 18, 2012, 02:24:56 PM
Yes, Booty, had he known, PIP never would have uttered such vulgarity.

Although he's naturally disinclined to draw attention to his many chivalrous displays, PIP has, to use just one example, ruined so many of his coats by laying them over mud and puddles for fair damsels and wizened crones alike. This is no small act, for it is exceedingly difficult for PIP to find an appropriate wardrobe replacement, given the generous and symmetrical proportions of his fit, 48-long coat size. Indeed, PIP's courteous acts have even taken adverbial life by entering our modern vernacular as behaving 'pippingly,' as in, "What a gallant young man, behaving so pippingly and with splendid aplomb." Modesty might prohibit PIP from singing his own praises, but he's no less than the Sir Walter Raleigh of our time. Hand to God.
Pippingly...I like that.   ;D


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 18, 2012, 06:19:56 PM
Yes, Booty, had he known, PIP never would have uttered such vulgarity.

Although he's naturally disinclined to draw attention to his many chivalrous displays, PIP has, to use just one example, ruined so many of his coats by laying them over mud and puddles for fair damsels and wizened crones alike. This is no small act, for it is exceedingly difficult for PIP to find an appropriate wardrobe replacement, given the generous and symmetrical proportions of his fit, 48-long coat size. Indeed, PIP's courteous acts have even taken adverbial life by entering our modern vernacular as behaving 'pippingly,' as in, "What a gallant young man, behaving so pippingly and with splendid aplomb." Modesty might prohibit PIP from singing his own praises, but he's no less than the Sir Walter Raleigh of our time. Hand to God.

Bravo my friend, bravo!  Absolutely outstanding!  I'm obviously not as well-spoken as you, but know that if I possessed such gifts, I would write outstanding and honorific narratives about you.

I am blessed and honored to call you my friend!



Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 18, 2012, 07:48:27 PM
She actually wants further explanation, as do I. What happened exactly?

Just a millisecond before your first pulse of ejaculation, completely relax (takes some practice maybe).  Relax the muscles, don't push the ejaculation out if you know what I mean.  As if you're not going to ejaculate at all anymore. 

If you completely relax, (the opposite of what you would think) and let your dick do its own thing it will bounce up and down on its own and shoot load after load several feet like a squirt gun.


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: chris-a on October 19, 2012, 03:52:34 AM
Yes, Booty, had he known, PIP never would have uttered such vulgarity.

Although he's naturally disinclined to draw attention to his many chivalrous displays, PIP has, to use just one example, ruined so many of his coats by laying them over mud and puddles for fair damsels and wizened crones alike. This is no small act, for it is exceedingly difficult for PIP to find an appropriate wardrobe replacement, given the generous and symmetrical proportions of his fit, 48-long coat size. Indeed, PIP's courteous acts have even taken adverbial life by entering our modern vernacular as behaving 'pippingly,' as in, "What a gallant young man, behaving so pippingly and with splendid aplomb." Modesty might prohibit PIP from singing his own praises, but he's no less than the Sir Walter Raleigh of our time. Hand to God.

superb. you're english, correct?


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: BigCyp on October 19, 2012, 03:58:21 AM
Bravo my friend, bravo!  Absolutely outstanding!  I'm obviously not as well-spoken as you, but know that if I possessed such gifts, I would write outstanding and honorific narratives about you.

I am blessed and honored to call you my friend!



I would love to meet you two for a coffee sometime.


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 19, 2012, 09:51:25 AM
I would love to meet you two for a coffee sometime.

There's a place here that roasts their own beans imported from South America.  The owner is a homosexual ex Marine bodybuilder.  It's a coffee shop without the typical coffee shop crowd, very getbig friendly.

Lets do this


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: bigmikecox on October 19, 2012, 10:14:09 AM
I would use 10 units of slin with a 100 gr carb drink, CelL Tech and 40 gr of whey


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 19, 2012, 10:15:25 AM
I would use 10 units of slin with a 100 gr carb drink, CelL Tech and 40 gr of whey

Thank you, I'll just run that by my doctor first...   :D


Title: Re: Protein/Fructose - Post workout
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 19, 2012, 10:28:49 AM
how was that everyone looking?

would you buy diet tips from michael moore?

good point you negative fucker  ;D