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Someone finally admitted that Mali is an Al-Qaeda run state. Props to Romney for having the balls to do that.
Al Qaeda and its affiliated groups are resurgent and now control more territory than at any point in their history.
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at 9:10 PM, obama smacked the shit out of romney for calling russia the #1 thread. he's spanking him now.
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at 9:10 PM, obama smacked the shit out of romney for calling russia the #1 thread. he's spanking him now.
Smacking the shit out of him? Romney has done a good job showing how Obama's foreign policy has crumbled and how Al Qaeda is on the rise. Not much more needs to be said.
Obama has yet to lay out his agenda or explain why the Middle East is worse off now than before he took office.
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"Attacking me doesn't answer the question..."
Romney getting touchy already. Obama has attack eyes. Romney clearly agitated at 9:13 PM. breathing heavy, eyes wide.
chill out fucker. there's 75 minutes to go.
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Oh snap, Romney just dropped the "more flexibility" comment! And laid down the Iraq forces comment to boot.
"Attacking me doesn't answer the question..."
Romney getting touchy already. Obama has attack eyes. Romney clearly agitated at 9:13 PM. breathing heavy, eyes wide.
chill out fucker. there's 75 minutes to go.
Romney is lacing him right now. Obama's already stuttering, hahahaha.
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Obama getting pummeled early here.
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There is an official thread RimMeKid.
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Yea...and Romney seems a bit tougue tied and flat....
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obama has been failing on syria - if you agree we should be getting involved. I dont think we should.
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There is an official thread RimMeKid.
fuck off geek
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Yea...and Romney seems a bit tougue tied and flat....
Yeah right. Obama is a stuttering fuck.
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obama has been failing on syria - if you agree we should be getting involved. I dont think we should.
Nope. Too bad Obama has us up to our neck in it already, with the CIA/Spec Forces already facilitating arms shipments from the Sunni states, most of which are ending up in the arms of jihadists.
Or do you think Saudi Arabia and Qatar are moving those weapons by themselves? ::)
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Nope. Too bad Obama has us up to our neck in it already, with the CIA/Spec Forces already facilitating arms shipments from the Sunni states, most of which are ending up in the arms of jihadists. ::)
Obama just following the reagan model of arming bad guys to defeat badder guys. Bush did it by arming bad guys in afghanistan, or just bribing them. It's how shit works. Clinton didn't start any wars, and was viewed as a foreign policy failure.
Romney will be at war with Iran by fall 2013. You KNOW this man.
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Obama just following the reagan model of arming bad guys to defeat badder guys. Bush did it by arming bad guys in afghanistan, or just bribing them. It's how shit works. Clinton didn't start any wars, and was viewed as a foreign policy failure.
Romney will be at war with Iran by fall 2013. You KNOW this man.
Who are you to tell us who are the "badder" guys? The 14 Christians blown up today at the gate to the Old City by one of the many (and growing) car bombs says otherwise, you stupid fuck.
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"Kadaffi had more american blood on his hands than anyone on the planet not named osama bin laden". Ouch.
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"Kadaffi had more american blood on his hands than anyone on the planet not named osama bin laden". Ouch.
Actually, that would be Hezbollah but you go ahead and fawn over it. Until 9/11, Hezbollah had been responsible for more American deaths than any other Islamist group/terrorist network. And after 9/11, Gadhafi became a pseudo-American ally, helping to fight AQ in Libya.
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It non't matter who gets the position shit is out control can't be fixed too far gone.
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And Obama continues to get the last word. ::)
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"Kadaffi had more american blood on his hands than anyone on the planet not named osama bin laden". Ouch.
Obama is babbling and more pie in the sky bs.
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It non't matter who gets the position shit is out control can't be fixed too far gone.
You can't even spell. Your opinion is unwelcome here.
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Both these clowns blowing smoke up the Mohammedan's asses. ::)
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fuck israel
fuck the USA
fuck romney
obama of peace
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what do you get when you have a debate vs. monday night football. A thread between 240 and fury lol... I'll sticky this topic for those that want to watch later.
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what do you get when you have a debate vs. monday night football. A thread between 240 and fury lol... I'll sticky this topic for those that want to watch later.
So far its been boring.
Obama looks old and tired
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what do you get when you have a debate vs. monday night football. A thread between 240 and fury lol... I'll sticky this topic for those that want to watch later.
I started with the game and I'd have stuck with it if Detroit didn't put up 24 yards in the 1st quarter. I also don't want to jinx my fantasy team as I started 5.9 points ahead with only Pettigrew to go on his team.
I've been watching the game more than the debate since about 9:45.
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romney china comments are strong/
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His asshole finally stopped bleeding after last weeks reaming. Only to have it busted wide open again by President Obama. He'll never recover. Obama, Obama, Obama! 4 more years. 4 more years. 4 more years!!
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His asshole finally stopped bleeding after last weeks reaming. Only to have it busted wide open again by President Obama. He'll never recover. Obama, Obama, Obama! 4 more years. 4 more years. 4 more years!!
Didn't you say the same thing after the last poll only to see Romney's lead widen in the polls?
Haha. Great gimmick, Benny. Really!
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Ypou stupid 94ers are so fucking pathetic. I feel bad the delusions of the obama cult of idiocy. These morons are in for a disaster when their messiah loses.
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I like this closing statement. He's regurgitating the same shit he said 4 years ago, none of which he has delivered on. :-\
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I like this closing statement. He's regurgitating the same shit he said 4 years ago, none of which he has delivered on. :-\
Obama is looking old and tired. He slouched and was bent over. He knows he is done.
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His asshole finally stopped bleeding after last weeks reaming. Only to have it busted wide open again by President Obama. He'll never recover. Obama, Obama, Obama! 4 more years. 4 more years. 4 more years!!
Obama "won" the second debate. But he didn't get JACK out of it, in terms of the polls. Romney won the first one, shot up in the polls, and has been riding high, ever since then...to the point where certain states that Obama should have locked up are now in play.
As usual, Obama ran his mouth but didn't say very much. His job apparently was to interrupt Romney at nearly every turn, before he could get two words from his lips.
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So Obama won two out of three?
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I thought Obama won.
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*thread move since merging messes up continuity
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Romney's strategy, it appears, was to simply let Obama hang himself. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!
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romnney agreed with obama so much, if the debate went another 15 minutes i think romney would vote for him :D :D :D :D :D
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PPP: Swing state voters say Obama won the debate 53-42, and are planning to vote for him 51-45
The states covered in our swing state poll were CO, FL, MI, IA, NH, NV, NC, OH, PA, VA, and WI
http://twitter.com/ppppolls
48% say Obama, 40% say Romney. CNN poll of registered debate watchers.
www.cnn.com
CBS snap poll on debate: Obama - 53, Romney - 23, tie - 24
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In other words, it's pretty much a wash like the last debate and will do almost nothing to stop Obama's slide.
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In other words, it's pretty much a wash like the last debate and will do almost nothing to stop Obama's slide.
he's leading by 11, 8, and 30 points. That's a wash? lol!
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53-42 and 48-40. Not likely anywhere near enough to reverse Romney's lead. Maybe enough to stop it from growing larger but you made the same asinine claims after the last one (where the poll results were even WIDER).
In short, couldn't care less. LOL at you making the same claims again.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jP2CG_ZpxJA/T5m-b05o72I/AAAAAAAAPhs/SMvCehhMcW8/s1600/brokenrecord.jpg)
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he's leading by 11, 8, and 30 points. That's a wash? lol!
Yep, it's a wash!
One, it's on foreign policy, a distance second or third to the economy, in terms of the basis of this election.
Two, based on the very same tweets you references, this debate has 38% of voters more likely to pick Romney, 37% less likely, and 30% no difference. And on foreign policy the same PPP poll has them trusting Romney 47%. When you're a sitting president, this late in the game and the challenger is that close, that is PATHETIC.
Third, snap polls tend to tighten up within 24 hours. Take the VP debate. One snap poll had Ryan up by 4 or 5. A day later, it was tied.
Four, with Obama having to play catch-up and having NO BOUNCE from his "win" in debate two, at best Obama can break even. But again, foreign policy isn't priority one; however, the more data we get about Benghazi, the more it HURTS OBAMA (not Romney).
But don't take my word for it.
Economy Is Dominant Issue for Americans as Election Nears
PRINCETON, NJ -- The "economy in general" ranks No. 1 on Gallup's Most Important Problem list in October, with 37% of Americans saying it is the top issue facing the country. This is up from 29% in September and exceeds unemployment, in second place at 26%. Mentions of unemployment are down this month from 32% in September, likely reflecting the recent decline in the government's jobless rate to 7.8%. Democrats, independents, and Republicans all became more likely to name the economy as the nation's top problem in October; however, the increase was sharpest among Republicans, rising 14 percentage points, from 30% to 44%. That contrasts with a five-point increase among independents (from 32% to 37%) and a seven-point increase among Democrats (from 26% to 33%).
The federal budget deficit currently ranks third on Gallup's Most Important Problem list, at 12%, followed by dissatisfaction with government at 9%, healthcare at 7%, and "lack of money" at 5%. No other issue is named by as much as 5% of Americans.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/158267/economy-dominant-issue-americans-election-nears.aspx
BTW, on this list of items, foreign policy is less than 10%, when you combine "War in Afghanistan/Iraq" (3%), "Foreign Aid/Focus Overseas" (4%), and "National Security" (2%).
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MCWAY,
Why do you think INTRADE still has obama at 60% chance of winning? I know obama has lost a lot of ground nationally, but the gamblers of the world still think he will find a way to win.
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MSNBC's Chuck Todd puts Romney as a 70% favorite....
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MSNBC's Chuck Todd puts Romney as a 70% favorite....
VERY interesting!
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The same collction of idiots and pathetic fucking drones and morons who thought obama was going to get a bump from the vp and 2nd debate are thesame cabal of dolts who will be crying when romney moves ahead to 55 in gallup.
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Well theres no question about this one...McWay and Tommytones can't even argue with this one....Obama destroyed Romney big time...Obama totally annihilated Romney on Foreign policy....Romney even AGREED many times with what the president had done with Al Qaeda, Iranian sanctions, etc.....
I hope 3333 hasn't committed suicide......
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MCWAY,
Why do you think INTRADE still has obama at 60% chance of winning? I know obama has lost a lot of ground nationally, but the gamblers of the world still think he will find a way to win.
Giving too much deference to an incumbent president. OR, they're pumping up that stat to cash their chips on a Romney win (sort of like hyping up a boxer to win then paying that boxer to throw the fight).
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Well theres no question about this one...McWay and Tommytones can't even argue with this one....Obama destroyed Romney big time...Obama totally annihilated Romney on Foreign policy....Romney even AGREED many times with what the president had done with Al Qaeda, Iranian sanctions, etc.....
I hope 3333 hasn't committed suicide......
Sure I can. Obama, as usual, interrupted Romney before he could get two syllables out of his mouth.
And, much like his last "win", it will do almost NOTHING to reverse Obama's slide (Romney over 50% in Gallup before and after that debate; Romney now ahead of Obama on RCP's electoral map, with several states still toss-up and Obama barely up two in Rasmussen's EC map).
When you get smoked in the debate, on THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE OF THE ELECTION, merely showing up with a pulse on debates, regarding much lesser topics, is little more than the consolation toaster.
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Obama is looking old and tired. He slouched and was bent over. He knows he is done.
I just started watching it, but if your response is that Obama looked old and slouched over, it probably wasn't a good day for Romney lol
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1) Obama and Romney both stress that they will work with Muslims/Arabs to reduce anger towards the US and extremist activity.
2) Obama and Romney both insist they will blindly stand by Israel as their strongest ally.
How come no one comments on the fact that #2 is in direct conflict with #1, because US support for Israel is probalby the single most significant item which fuels anger towards the US in the middle east?
Can't have it both ways, can't have your cake and eat it too. The cost of #2 is a failure to achieve #1.
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Regardless of who won or lost, do you think many people were even watching since football and baseball was on?
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Regardless of who won or lost, do you think many people were even watching since football and baseball was on?
I think so....the debates in this election have been highly entertaining....even going back to the Republican debates
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Sure I can. Obama, as usual, interrupted Romney before he could get two syllables out of his mouth.
And, much like his last "win", it will do almost NOTHING to reverse Obama's slide (Romney over 50% in Gallup before and after that debate; Romney now ahead of Obama on RCP's electoral map, with several states still toss-up and Obama barely up two in Rasmussen's EC map).
When you get smoked in the debate, on THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE OF THE ELECTION, merely showing up with a pulse on debates, regarding much lesser topics, is little more than the consolation toaster.
again you are nit-picking...Obama destroyed him..case closed...
however,..I do believe Obama is going to lose the election.....there is just too much negativity going on out there and the American people may feel they need a change
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Smacking the shit out of him? Romney has done a good job showing how Obama's foreign policy has crumbled and how Al Qaeda is on the rise. Not much more needs to be said.
Obama has yet to lay out his agenda or explain why the Middle East is worse off now than before he took office.
are you living in a dream???
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again you are nit-picking...Obama destroyed him..case closed...
however,..I do believe Obama is going to lose the election.....there is just too much negativity going on out there and the American people may feel they need a change
Economy is the DOMINANT ISSUE! Case closed.
Getting smoked in that debate, while "winning" a debate on a far-less important topic, means Obama's victory is as hollow as a beach ball, especially when you look at the internals.
If that's the case after this one, it would mean that Romney did in ONE DEBATE, what Obama and Biden couldn't do in THREE: Build a huge wave of momentum that could carry all the way to victory on Nov. 6.
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Pull up Krauthammers assessment. He nailed it.
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Pull up Krauthammers assessment. He nailed it.
Krauthammer is a shill..he has no credibility anymore...he use d to be good...used to love his columns..FOX has turned him into a biased pussy
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Pull up Krauthammers assessment. He nailed it.
You don't say.
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Romney's mistake is that he has a habbit of challenging the president on a question in a way that requires an immediate response from Obama; where he turns to him and directly challenges him, that's not good because he's instantly giving away his time for Obama to answer and Obama hasn't missed a beat on that so far. Romney made this mistake in the last debate and you can see Obama is running with it in this debate. Romney should have been coached on this as a mistake from his last debate.
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Guys, stop fighting.
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WTF is Romney talking about when he says Syria is Iran's route to the sea? WTF ::) Did he really just say that in this debate? He should probably study that middle east map a little more lol... This blunder alone could be why he loses the debate. I'm guessing tomorrow there will be talk about this in the media.
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Ok, after listening to this utter complete load of pure bullshit they both spewed, I'm feeling a lot better about my support for Gary Johnson.
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The incumbent usually has the advantage in FP debates.
The challenger just needs to score a few points, stay out of any traps/landmines, avoid semantical arguments.
I believe Mitt Romney did those things, or at least most of those things, last night.
The spin will be rocking and rolling these last two weeks so it should be a fun and eye-rolling ride to Nov. 6th.
This debate also reinforced my total hatred of how these "Debates" are run in that they aren't actual debates. Make them do 4 real debates with none of the dumb "Town Hall" nonsense, no sitting at tables and no bad, biased moderators. Let them actually have debate.
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Obama looked and sounded as someone who just got fresh polling data showing how bad hr is going lose.
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Ok, after listening to this utter complete load of pure bullshit they both spewed, I'm feeling a lot better about my support for Gary Johnson.
Thanks! One less vote for Obama ;)
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Barack Obama RIPPED By Bayonet Co. "We're Still Relevant!!!"
tmz.com ^ | 10/23/12
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:46:22 AM by Justaham
President Barack Obama has offended the bayonet community ... TMZ has learned.
TMZ spoke with multiple people in the bayonet industry who tell us they were shocked and even offended when Obama brought up the weapon during last night's debate.
FYI -- Obama was going after Romney when he said, "You mentioned the Navy, for example, and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military's changed."
According to the official U.S. Marine Corps website, every Marine is STILL required to complete a bayonet training program ... because "the weapon becomes just as effective [as a rifle] in close combat situations."
We spoke with Dan Riker from Bayonet Inc. -- a leading military surplus outlet that specializes in bayonets -- who tells us he believes Obama's comment was "ignorant ... because our soldiers still use bayonets."
He adds, “[Bayonets] are still distributed to the military all the time -- he should get educated on it”
For the record, Riker says he won't be voting for Obama ... "and I didn't vote for him last election either."
(Excerpt) Read more at tmz.com ...
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It non't matter who gets the position shit is out control can't be fixed too far gone.
Unfortunately, you make an excellent point here. Personally, I think world affairs are going to continue to degenerate as long as the world population continues to expand beyond the resources to sustain it. You see this all the time, the more overpopulated an environment or city, the less value we place on human life. Look at the largest cities in India, South America and Asia....or even in the United States. People are killing each other and barely giving it a second thought. Heck, we have even devalued our own lives so that many folks live in a drugged stupor until they succumb to an early death.
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Unfortunately, you make an excellent point here. Personally, I think world affairs are going to continue to degenerate as long as the world population continues to expand beyond the resources to sustain it. You see this all the time, the more overpopulated an environment or city, the less value we place on human life. Look at the largest cities in India, South America and Asia....or even in the United States. People are killing each other and barely giving it a second thought. Heck, we have even devalued our own lives so that many folks live in a drugged stupor until they succumb to an early death.
your examples have been going on since the beginning of time
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your examples have been going on since the beginning of time
-Without a doubt. What's your point?
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Bob Woodward: Obama 'mistaken' on sequester
Politico ^ | 10/23/12 | Leigh Munsil
Posted on October 23, 2012 11:45:19 PM EDT by MissesBush
Bob Woodward says President Barack Obama got some of his facts wrong on sequester at Monday night’s debate.
Woodward’s book, “The Price of Politics,” has been the go-to fact check source for the president’s answer, in which he claimed the idea of using deep, automatic, across-the-board domestic and defense spending cuts to force Congress to address the nation’s burgeoning federal deficit originated from Congress, not from the White House.
“What the president said is not correct,” Woodward told POLITICO Tuesday. “He’s mistaken. And it’s refuted by the people who work for him.”
Woodward, a Washington Post journalist who was a key reporter on the initial coverage of the Watergate scandal, said he stands behind his reporting in the book, which drew upon sources involved in last year’s deficit talks and detailed notes taken in the meetings.
Woodward reports in his book that White House Office of Management Director Jack Lew and Legislative Affairs Director Rob Nabors took the proposal for sequestration to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and then it was presented to congressional Republicans.
During the debate, however, Obama said the idea originated on Capitol Hill.
“First of all, the sequester is not something that I've proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed,” Obama said, adding his strongest pronouncement to date on its future: “It will not happen.”
Woodward said there’s a possibility the president was unaware of how the idea came about.
“It’s a complicated process — and in fairness to the president — maybe he didn’t know that they were doing this because it’s kind of technical budget jargon,” Woodward said.
“What I wrote — it’s specific date, time, place, participants,” he said. “What I’ve reported is totally accurate. Call Nabors and Lew. Or ask the White House. I mean, they know that’s accurate.”
Still, briefing reporters Tuesday aboard Air Force One, White House press secretary Jay Carney continued to blame sequestration on Congress.
"What the president said last night was a reiteration of what his position has long been," Carney said. “The sequester that was designed and passed by Congress was never meant to become policy, it was never meant to be implemented."
Woodward agreed that sequestration wasn’t intended to actually happen.
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“No one thought it would happen. The idea was to design something … that was so onerous that no one would ever let it happen. Of course, it did, because they couldn’t reach agreement,” he said. “They all believed that the supercommittee was going to come up with a $1.2 trillion deficit-reduction plan, so there would be no sequestration. Of course, the supercommittee failed and so the trigger went off, which has all of these very Draconian cuts.”
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Thanks! One less vote for Obama ;)
It's not like it matters anyway. There's zero chance the state I'm in votes for anyone but Romney. My vote matters about as much as 333386's vote, none. ;)