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Whose got momentum now ;D
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Whose got momentum now ;D
Answer: Romney!!
At least three polls now have Romney at 50%: Gallup, Rasmussen, ABC/WaPo. CNN may be a fourth one.
Not to mention Romney's is gaining ground in Ohio, Colorado, and New Hampshire. And Romney's RCP average in Florida has gone up over 2 points, thanks to recent poll that has him up 5.
That is momentum, not an oversampled PPP poll (Dems +9) in NC that has it TIED at 48. Hmmm...I wonder where all those undecideds go. ::)
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Latest WaPo survey has Romney with 60% of the white vote...a threshold Liberals have said he would need to win but never, ever achieve...
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Latest WaPo survey has Romney with 60% of the white vote...a threshold Liberals have said he would need to win but never, ever achieve...
He'll get more than that, on election day. I posted a thread on this months ago.
If Romney gets about 62% of the white vote, Romney wins this hands down.
But the biggest proof that Romney has the mojo: The Dems are already crafting excuses for an Obama loss.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203897404578078803373321988.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion
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Whose got momentum now ;D
:D :D :D :D :D n.c. went from leans romney to toss up be cause romney has momentum :D :D :D :D :D
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:D :D :D :D :D n.c. went from leans romney to toss up be cause romney has momentum :D :D :D :D :D
Three national polls have Romney at 50%.
Romney's is stretching his lead in Florida, gaining strength in Colorado.
Libs are teeing up the excuses for Obama's loss in advance.
Yet, the lone reason NC is back in toss-up: A PPP poll, oversampling Democrats by 9 points (Obama didn't even have that edge in 2008 and he won by about 14,000 votes) that has it......TIED.
Keep flailing in the wind, Blacken. We need the laughs.
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Scott Rasmussen said this this morning
rass doesnt see it your way mchannity
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All signs point to a close race with just over a week to go. In fact, current polling suggests it might be close enough to produce a split decision, with Mitt Romney winning the popular vote and the president keeping his job with a victory in the Electoral College.
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Scott Rasmussen said this this morning
rass doesnt see it your way mchannity
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All signs point to a close race with just over a week to go. In fact, current polling suggests it might be close enough to produce a split decision, with Mitt Romney winning the popular vote and the president keeping his job with a victory in the Electoral College.
That idea's been floated for at least a week. Again, you're late to the party.
The problem is that's happens only four times, only once where the challenger got at least 50% of the popular vote.
And, it's never occurred with an incumbent president.
And, of course, you left out the context in which Rasmussen made those comments:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_scott_rasmussen/wisconsin_may_be_the_new_ohio
Wisconsin, a state Obama won by 14 is now UP FOR GRABS. The article states how a Wisconsin win gives Romney the ability to win the presidency without Ohio.
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That idea's been floated for at least a week. Again, you're late to the party.
The problem is that's happens only four times, only once where the challenger got at least 50% of the popular vote.
And, it's never occurred with an incumbent president.
mchannity spinning again
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mchannity spinning again
44 men have been president; 4 have won elections without the popular vote; ZERO have been incumbents.
Obama's an incumbent. I don't like his chances.
Rasmussen just reported his Wisconsin poll...it's TIED at 49%. A state Obama won by 14 in 2008 is now TIED.
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Three national polls have Romney at 50%.
Romney's is stretching his lead in Florida, gaining strength in Colorado.
Libs are teeing up the excuses for Obama's loss in advance.
Yet, the lone reason NC is back in toss-up: A PPP poll, oversampling Democrats by 9 points (Obama didn't even have that edge in 2008 and he won by about 14,000 votes) that has it......TIED.
Keep flailing in the wind, Blacken. We need the laughs.
PPP may be the lone poll...BUT ITS ALSO THE MOST RECENT POLL. The other 2 are from weeks ago. Like I said before...NC is still a hot territory
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It's the most recent poll, oversampling by nine for Democrats....yet, it's a TIE.
That usually translates Romney up 4-5.
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mchannity must be getting tired running from post to post putting on the mcspin :D :D :D
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mchannity must be getting tired running from post to post putting on the mcspin :D :D :D
You must be tired of jumping on and off poll bandwagons.
48-48 tie, even with Dems oversampled by 9.
As soon as NC goes back to lean Romney, you'll flee yet again, looking for a new flavor of the day.
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You must be tired of jumping on and off poll bandwagons.
48-48 tie, even with Dems oversampled by 9.
As soon as NC goes back to lean Romney, you'll flee yet again, looking for a new flavor of the day.
keep on spinning all that momentum is gone for romney,hey but mcspin away :D :D :D :D :D :D
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keep on spinning all that momentum is gone for romney,hey but mcspin away :D :D :D :D :D :D
Gallup: Romney 51-46.
TIED in Wisconsin (Biden's headed there now for a late rally).
So much for that momentum being stopped.
And, once Romney goes back up to 50% on WaPo, you will flee yet again.
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It's the most recent poll, oversampling by nine for Democrats....yet, it's a TIE.
That usually translates Romney up 4-5.
have polls ALWAYS oversampled dems? I didn't hear anything about this practice in 2008 when mccain was losing to obama in polls
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Gallup: Romney 51-46.
TIED in Wisconsin (Biden's headed there now for a late rally).
So much for that momentum being stopped.
And, once Romney goes back up to 50% on WaPo, you will flee yet again.
hahhaa their numbers are so far the other polls,mcspin away :D :D :D :D :D
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have polls ALWAYS oversampled dems? I didn't hear anything about this practice in 2008 when mccain was losing to obama in polls
The polls are sampling 2008 turnout which is not going to happen for O-THUG.
If Obama can't break 50% in polls using 2008 sampling data - he is going to get L A N D S L I D E D
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have polls ALWAYS oversampled dems? I didn't hear anything about this practice in 2008 when mccain was losing to obama in polls
As I asked Straw Man, show me some presidential polls that have oversampled Republicans and you'll have a case to make.
The reason you're hearing about it now is because the jig is up. The bias in certain polls has been exposed. And now that Obama's in trouble, it's the liberals who are now complaining about the polls.
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All signs point to a close race with just over a week to go. In fact, current polling suggests it might be close enough to produce a split decision, with Mitt Romney winning the popular vote and the president keeping his job with a victory in the Electoral College.
I believe this is what may happen.
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I believe this is what may happen.
I doubt it. It's only happened four times (winning the presidency without the popular vote) and it's NEVER HAPPENED with an incumbent president.
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PPP may be the lone poll...BUT ITS ALSO THE MOST RECENT POLL. The other 2 are from weeks ago. Like I said before...NC is still a hot territory
It appears to be as hot as a glacier.
Case in point: Wisconsin is tied; Biden is dispatched there immediately for a late rally.
NC is "tied"....crickets from the Obama administration.....And NC is worth MORE EC VOTES than Wisconsin is (15 vs. 10).
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I doubt it. It's only happened four times (winning the presidency without the popular vote) and it's NEVER HAPPENED with an incumbent president.
This is from the Atlantic on Apr 16, 2012
Obama has an edge. He could lose four swing states he won four years ago -- Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida -- and still end up crossing the magic 270 threshold.
What if Obama were to lose the popular vote but win the electoral college? That's not unheard of. George W. Bush famously lost the popular vote in his 2000 win, and three others have done the same: John Quincy Adams (1824), Rutherford Hayes (1876), and Benjamin Harrison (1888). But no sitting president has ever won reelection while losing the popular vote.
A CNN poll also released Monday has Obama up by 9 points. Romney's favorability is at historic lows for a challenger. Furthermore, it's not popular vote that decides the election, but electoral votes.
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There is no way in hell...none whatsoever....that Obama could lose the popular vote in the range gallup is now (5pts) and win the EC. It just won't happen...
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This is from the Atlantic on Apr 16, 2012
That's from April 16....over six months ago.
Plus, as that article said and as I've said, no incumbent has been under 50% and won the presidency.
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That's from April 16....over six months ago.
Plus, as that article said and as I've said, no incumbent has been under 50% and won the presidency.
Didn't I indicate that the article was published on April 16? Tell me something I don't already know. ;)
Do you honestly believe statistics will prevail? Truthfully, anything can happen. The odds makers have Obama winning by a relatively small margin. I am not a gambling man, so I won't be losing any bets regardless of who wins the Presidency.
We can all sit around making predictions and posting statements based on information we dig up in the news, on the Internet and largely from how we hope things will turn out on November 6, but until the winners are announced we are all just speculating and hoping we are right.
I am not the anti-333386. Sure I am rooting for Obama. I am a Democrat. However, I don't believe I can make the election go one way or another or my way by posting a bunch of nonsense and lies about the candidates. I'll leave that to nut jobs like 333386.
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Didn't I indicate that the article was published on April 16? Tell me something I don't already know. ;)
Do you honestly believe statistics will prevail? Truthfully, anything can happen. The odds makers have Obama winning by a relatively small margin. I am not a gambling man, so I won't be losing any bets regardless of who wins the Presidency.
We can all sit around making predictions and posting statements based on information we dig up in the news, on the Internet and largely from how we hope things will turn out on November 6, but until the winners are announced we are all just speculating and hoping we are right.
I am not the anti-333386. Sure I am rooting for Obama. I am a Democrat. However, I don't believe I can make the election go one way or another or my way by posting a bunch of nonsense and lies about the candidates. I'll leave that to nut jobs like 333386.
That's why statistics are used: To predict what has happened, based on what has happened.
I agree that we are, at best, speculating. But, that's why this forum is here. That's the fun of it.
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That's why statistics are used: To predict what has happened, based on what has happened.
I agree that we are, at best, speculating. But, that's why this forum is here. That's the fun of it.
I'm with you on the "fun" part of why most of us post our agreements/opinions based on speculations and statistics in these forums. Then there are those who actually are taking this stuff very seriously; as if to suggest their opinion will change the outcome, come Tuesday, November 6.
Saw an interesting and humorous documentary last night called Mansome. In it, some barbers discuss how manly it is to get a haircut and talk politics. I actually remember those good ol' days when I had enough hair to justify paying a barber to cut it. There was no better place to shoot the breeze on any number of topics. Perhaps Internet forums are the new barbershop for us men.
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It appears to be as hot as a glacier.
Case in point: Wisconsin is tied; Biden is dispatched there immediately for a late rally.
NC is "tied"....crickets from the Obama administration.....And NC is worth MORE EC VOTES than Wisconsin is (15 vs. 10).
And now that two more polls just showed up on RCP with Romney up by 6 and 8 in Rasmussen and Gravis Marketing, respectively, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that NC goes back to "Lean Romney" sooner than later.
Still think this is "hot" territory for Obama, Vince?
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I'm with you on the "fun" part of why most of us post our agreements/opinions based on speculations and statistics in these forums. Then there are those who actually are taking this stuff very seriously; as if to suggest their opinion will change the outcome, come Tuesday, November 6.
Saw an interesting and humorous documentary last night called Mansome. In it, some barbers discuss how manly it is to get a haircut and talk politics. I actually remember those good ol' days when I had enough hair to justify paying a barber to cut it. There was no better place to shoot the breeze on any number of topics. Perhaps Internet forums are the new barbershop for us men.
I remember those days too. And since razors and shaving cream are far cheaper than Rogaine and toupees, I just shaved my head completely bald 3 years ago and have been that way since then.
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I remember those days too. And since razors and shaving cream are far cheaper than Rogaine and toupees, I just shaved my head completely bald 3 years ago and have been that way since then.
You have to love the easy maintenance of a buzz cut or a shaved head. My style is the buzz cut because it is less dramatic than a shaved head and because, since retiring, I have grown a full beard which I also buzz when I am cutting my hair, every 5 days or so. These days, my hair is mostly white. Since I had blondish hair most of my life, the white hair looks fine with my light olive skin tone and green eye color.