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After everything else.....6 rounds for time - 50lb sandbag run, tire climbs, run to cone then back, 60 yards. Prowler sprint, 40 yards
Beats bike's and treadmills!
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At the end of this clip I think I can see an episode of Storage Wars being filmed. My money's on Barry. ;D
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Calm down "Louie" ;D
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Sounds like a Crossfit workout. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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lots of wimpy stuff going on in these vids nice post bro
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Sounds like a Crossfit workout. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
No crossshit, I won't allow it. Just some conditioning at the end of our strongman training.
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No crossshit, I won't allow it. Just some conditioning at the end of our strongman training.
why dont these children go frame some houses, do something with there youth than u sending them through these silly muscle mazes
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No crossshit, I won't allow it. Just some conditioning at the end of our strongman training.
(http://akenyangirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/respect.jpg)
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why dont these children go frame some houses, do something with there youth than u sending them through these silly muscle mazes
::)
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No crossshit, I won't allow it. Just some conditioning at the end of our strongman training.
what do you think of AJ's Metabolic Conditioning protocol, coach?
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silly muscle mazes
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SEMPER FI
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what do you think of AJ's Metabolic Conditioning protocol, coach?
AJ?
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why dont these children go frame some houses, do something with there youth than u sending them through these silly muscle mazes
;D, you just ruined his day
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what do you think of AJ's Metabolic Conditioning protocol, coach?
Did you mean AC's (Alwyn Cosgrove)
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Prowler sprint? oh brother, gayer than saving half a candy bar for later.
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Haha, what a fucking joke.
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AJ?
Arthur Jones
http://www.arthurjonesexercise.com/Athletic/Total.PDF
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Prowler sprint? oh brother, gayer than saving half a candy bar for later.
Gayer than a treadmill at 3.5 for 90min thinkingyour burning fat? Haha.
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gayer than saving half a candy bar for later.
:D
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Haha, what a fucking joke.
Show em how its done che...Grrrrr. haha
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(http://akenyangirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/respect.jpg)
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Prowler sprint? oh brother, gayer than saving half a candy bar for later.
;D
Joe - have you done wind sprints with a chute at all ?
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Joe - have you done wind sprints with a chute at all ?
Did them a couple of times and found it throws off stride mechanics.
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Did them a couple of times and found it throws off stride mechanics.
how about aircraft mechanics? they should have chute sprints easy.
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Did them a couple of times and found it throws off stride mechanics.
Ah okay - For just your average gym rat looking to peel the last bit of fat do you think it would be a worthy inclusion ? not for a real athlete - or maybe a weight vest and taking to the stairs (there's lots of stairs here) - Tyre's and a good prowler are not available to me yet and I find indoor work in the gym boring - Thanks for your input :)
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Ah okay - For just your average gym rat looking to peel the last bit of fat do you think it would be a worthy inclusion ? not for a real athlete - or maybe a weight vest and taking to the stairs (there's lots of stairs here) - Tyre's and a good prowler are not available to me yet and I find indoor work in the gym boring - Thanks for your input :)
Getting your ass owned off of GetBig over a girl you e-dated burns a few calories. ::)
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Ah okay - For just your average gym rat looking to peel the last bit of fat do you think it would be a worthy inclusion ? not for a real athlete - or maybe a weight vest and taking to the stairs (there's lots of stairs here) - Tyre's and a good prowler are not available to me yet and I find indoor work in the gym boring - Thanks for your input :)
Stairs are great, weight vests are great, the combination of and results are great.
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Getting your ass owned off of GetBig over a girl you e-dated burns a few calories. ::)
Posting on all your gimmicks must burn a few to ;)
Stairs are great, weight vests are great, the combination of and results are great.
Thanks mate will pick one up Tomorrow :)
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Posting on all your gimmicks must burn a few to ;)
no wonder she e-dumped your ass
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no wonder she e-dumped your ass
It was actually the reverse, I told her to E - fuck off, but what ever is real in your mind ;) - Tho you must have a very fulfilling life where it's so important to "own" people on the internet and post on all these accounts. <---- Last reply to you BTW h0mo, burnt to many calories on you as is - out to enjoy the sun and a nice stroll along the scenic waterfront with fine company - toodles gayn0r xox0x :-*
Sorry coach for ruining your thread
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Gayer than a treadmill at 3.5 for 90min thinkingyour burning fat? Haha.
Gayer than believing there is such thing as fat burning.
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lots of wimpy stuff going on in these vids nice post bro
At 320lbs you couldn't do 1/4 of that stuff....
No crossshit, I won't allow it. Just some conditioning at the end of our strongman training.
Yes Coach...as much as you disdain it, thats the same type of shit cross fit does. WSM, Crossfit, your thing...all cut from the same mold. Tell me how your thing differed from a crossfit workout. No flame, just be respectful..
This was a workout I did :
Sprint 125yd
150# Prowler Push 25yd
300# tire flip 5x
Deadlift 1.5x bodyweight 5x
AMRAP in 30 mins.
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joe=looking old
bench
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It was actually the reverse, I told her to E - fuck off, but what ever is real in your mind ;) - Tho you must have a very fulfilling life where it's so important to "own" people on the internet and post on all these accounts. <---- Last reply to you BTW h0mo, burnt to many calories on you as is - out to enjoy the sun and a nice stroll along the scenic waterfront with fine company - toodles gayn0r xox0x :-*
Sorry coach for ruining your thread
we've heard all that before wilma
you still bang on and on about how you didn't get dumped when everybody knows she made a monkey out of your ass
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joe=looking old
bench
welcome back man :)
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At 320lbs you couldn't do 1/4 of that stuff....
Yes Coach...as much as you disdain it, thats the same type of shit cross fit does. WSM, Crossfit, your thing...all cut from the same mold. Tell me how your thing differed from a crossfit workout. No flame, just be respectful..
This was a workout I did :
Sprint 125yd
150# Prowler Push 25yd
300# tire flip 5x
Deadlift 1.5x bodyweight 5x
AMRAP in 30 mins.
Crossfit is a program of randomness. There is no plan, just throw a bunch exercises together in no particular order that would even come close to making sense that fry's your CNS that leads to injuries. This particular conditioning was put at the end of our regular training (Saturdays are strongman days). One of my main beefs with crossfit (and to their credit, seems like it's changing) is doing high rep O-lifts then combining it with some other high-rep exercise (box jumps for example) or sprint. If you take the O-lifts out or at least do them at the beginning as a power exercise (as it was intended) then you're making an improvment to the program. Pull ups with a kip, so many injuries. "muscle-ups"...what does this prove if you're not a gymnast?
The day that we do this particular training, there is no o-lifts and no other compound exercises. Keg walks, farmers walks, sandbags, prowler or truck push, tire flips, sled drags, hand over hand pulls with loaded sled, etc.
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I pulled this right from the crossfit website, you tell me what is wrong with this? (the pic was in the same workout as if an accomplishment)
50 Pull-ups
75 Sit-ups
75 pound Overhead squat, 50 reps
75 Double-unders
EIGHT months preggo...
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50-rep squats for what reason ???
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50-rep squats for what reason ???
BINGO!!
and this is AFTER 50 pullups and 75 sit ups (which ruins your low back anyway)
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50-rep squats for what reason ???
to keep the heart rate elevated would be my guess
the key to obtaining a very high level of fitness ie. conditioning is to keep the heart rate elevated at a very high level for a period of 10-15 min
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50-rep squats for what reason ???
conditioning ?
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BINGO!!
and this is AFTER 50 pullups and 75 sit ups (which ruins your low back anyway)
coach ever just do suicides like in basketball camp?
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Crossfit is a program of randomness. There is no plan, just throw a bunch exercises together in no particular order that would even come close to making sense that fry's your CNS that leads to injuries. This particular conditioning was put at the end of our regular training (Saturdays are strongman days). One of my main beefs with crossfit (and to their credit, seems like it's changing) is doing high rep O-lifts then combining it with some other high-rep exercise (box jumps for example) or sprint. If you take the O-lifts out or at least do them at the beginning as a power exercise (as it was intended) then you're making an improvment to the program. Pull ups with a kip, so many injuries. "muscle-ups"...what does this prove if you're not a gymnast?
The day that we do this particular training, there is no o-lifts and no other compound exercises. Keg walks, farmers walks, sandbags, prowler or truck push, tire flips, sled drags, hand over hand pulls with loaded sled, etc.
You should look up outlaw crossfit...you may be surprised. Lots of WSB influence. They do things to train for the games just like anything else. I can point out so many sports that use various training techniques to become better at their chosen sport/activity. I am sure there are a shit load of things MMA guys do that most people would say "What the fuck does that have to do with punching someone in the face?" What does a hand over hand rope pull have to do with, say, football?
Are you assuming things are thrown together with no sense or have you spoken to people who designed programs? My CNS has not been fried. How is it your most intense workout doesn't fry the CNS, but a crossfit routine does?
I understand your beef with the high rep olympic lift combination thing, but they aren't doing maximal loads with that stuff. Yesterdays workout for me was :
135# Power Clean x 5
(at 5th rep of power clean, keep bar up and do the following)
135# front squat x 5
8mins AMRAP
Was does you climbing a set of tires do? Am I monkey? No, its functional for SOMETHING. Yes? A muscle up uses muscles in a different way. They aren't asking people to put together a floor routine. If so, then I would say they are trying to make people into gymnasts. Using the rings makes you use balance and proprioception to complete a move. Thats it.
As far as someone trainign 8-mos pregnant...you want to use that as an example? How many examples of programs from any of the shitty bodybuilding magazines can I list that are garbage. How many kids can I find youtube videos on that are doing things wrong? With all due respect, are you a pediatrician? Whats wrong with her doing pullups, situps, double unders, or even squats? Seriously. If she had any issues with her cervix, I would say that you would have a valid point. If she was working out before her pregnancy, she should continue exercising now. Now, if she was doing tons of olympic movements, I WOULD agree that it would be of concern>
trust me Joe...I see where you are coming from. You hate the cult-koolaid part of cross fit. I hate it too. But when you take a step back and look and see what some of what they are doing...you would have to agree that its not as bad as you think.
Why can't someone do a 50-rep squat? How many times have we seen people with programs where they do 100-rep sets. John Meadows (moutain dog) talks about doing rear lateral stuff with 30 - 35 reps. You run with a sand bag over one shoulder. To me that creates an imbalance on one side altering the normal gate of the individual performing the movement. When will someone have to run with a sandbag over their shoulder? What sport is that for? Again, NOT a flame...but you can't criticize in one direction.
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to keep the heart rate elevated would be my guess
the key to obtaining a very high level of fitness ie. conditioning is to keep the heart rate elevated at a very high level for a period of 10-15 min
The most important thing in life in parallel with the bench-press and the mile-run is to leave behind something to be considered, such as a pyramid-shit or a building full of secrets. I'm not sure if squats for 20+ reps contribute to this.
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The most important thing in life in parallel with the bench-press and the mile-run is to leave behind something to be considered, such as a pyramid-shit or a building full of secrets. I'm not sure if squats for 20+ reps contribute to this.
lol
and don't forget one's ancestral backround ;D
Mentzer and Zane=Germanic ancestry
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Stupid kids with stupid parents getting riped of their money by a scam artist.
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lol
and don't forget one's ancestral backround ;D
Mentzer and Zane=Germanic ancestry
Hmm yes Germanic ancestry seems to be an important factor here.
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Stairs are great, weight vests are great, the combination of and results are great.
Can you recommend a good weight vest?
I'm more concerned with quality than price.
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Stupid kids with stupid parents
Describes you to a "T" fatbody
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to keep the heart rate elevated would be my guess
the key to obtaining a very high level of fitness ie. conditioning is to keep the heart rate elevated at a very high level for a period of 10-15 min
This, this, this and this. It's pretty much why I've stopped the treadmill altogether now. I could run 10 miles at one point without breaking too much sweat, as long as I settled into a nice comfortable pace. But ask me to do 20 star jumps, 20 push ups x 3 without taking a breather, and I'd gas in minutes, and I mean I was totally fucked, having to almost lie down.
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This, this, this and this. It's pretty much why I've stopped the treadmill altogether now. I could run 10 miles at one point without breaking too much sweat, as long as I settled into a nice comfortable pace. But ask me to do 20 star jumps, 20 push ups x 3 without taking a breather, and I'd gas in minutes, and I mean I was totally fucked, having to almost lie down.
that's the key, basically to the point of having to lie down or just passing the fuck out
but make no mistake, this form of training is VERY INTENSE and you gotta be careful no to over do it
i just started back on this "Metabolic Training" style over the past 3 weeks and after doing 1 week of "break-in training" i went all out and now i've put myself into an over-trained state (as i did it 5 days out of the last 7 days)
it seems that practicing it 2 or 3 times a week is IDEAL
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that's the key, basically to the point of having to lie down or just passing the fuck out
but make no mistake, this form of training is VERY INTENSE and you gotta be careful no to over do it
i just started back on this "Metabolic Training" style over the past 3 weeks and after doing 1 week of "break-in training" i went all out and now i've put myself into an over-trained state (as i did it 5 days out of the last 7 days)
it seems that practicing it 2 or 3 times a week is IDEAL
I am loving the training. I have been bodybuilding for almost 25 years. Its been like a re-birth of enjoyment and focus. I am driven again to get stronger, leaner, and improve my endurance. I would love to compete in the Reebok Games when I turn 45. A nice goal...versus standing on a stage oiled in posing trunks.
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You should look up outlaw crossfit...you may be surprised. Lots of WSB influence. They do things to train for the games just like anything else. I can point out so many sports that use various training techniques to become better at their chosen sport/activity. I am sure there are a shit load of things MMA guys do that most people would say "What the fuck does that have to do with punching someone in the face?" What does a hand over hand rope pull have to do with, say, football?
Ok, first off we don't do this type of training on a daily basis, we do this once per week. What does hand over hand have to do with football? (or almost any other sport). Mostly for grip strength but also back strength. To think that grip wouldn't be important in a combat sport would be naive.
Are you assuming things are thrown together with no sense or have you spoken to people who designed programs? My CNS has not been fried. How is it your most intense workout doesn't fry the CNS, but a crossfit routine does?
Not saying it doesn't fry the CNS, it most certainly does. But once again, for example, I won't have them lift loads overhead AFTER the primary training. Also, you have to take into considerations of rest time to let the CNS calm down. (See energy systems). If you're going to train that intensely with little to no rest, mechanics break down, results? Injury. This should be commonsense.
I understand your beef with the high rep olympic lift combination thing, but they aren't doing maximal loads with that stuff. Yesterdays workout for me was :
135# Power Clean x 5
(at 5th rep of power clean, keep bar up and do the following)
135# front squat x 5
I have no problem with this. Going beyond 5 reps, mechanics will start breaking down. Here, you're doing two different movements. We also do clean/front squats usually on our ME Lower days. BTW, AMRAP? What is this, maybe I'm missing something.
8mins AMRAP
Was does you climbing a set of tires do? Am I monkey? No, its functional for SOMETHING. Yes? A muscle up uses muscles in a different way. They aren't asking people to put together a floor routine. If so, then I would say they are trying to make people into gymnasts. Using the rings makes you use balance and proprioception to complete a move. Thats it.
We have quite a few civil service that train with us. Police, fire, military, etc
As far as someone trainign 8-mos pregnant...you want to use that as an example? How many examples of programs from any of the shitty bodybuilding magazines can I list that are garbage. How many kids can I find youtube videos on that are doing things wrong? With all due respect, are you a pediatrician? Whats wrong with her doing pullups, situps, double unders, or even squats? Seriously. If she had any issues with her cervix, I would say that you would have a valid point. If she was working out before her pregnancy, she should continue exercising now. Now, if she was doing tons of olympic movements, I WOULD agree that it would be of concern>
Some of these idiots do use O-lifts while pregnant.
trust me Joe...I see where you are coming from. You hate the cult-koolaid part of cross fit. I hate it too. But when you take a step back and look and see what some of what they are doing...you would have to agree that its not as bad as you think.
Why can't someone do a 50-rep squat? How many times have we seen people with programs where they do 100-rep sets. John Meadows (moutain dog) talks about doing rear lateral stuff with 30 - 35 reps. You run with a sand bag over one shoulder. To me that creates an imbalance on one side altering the normal gate of the individual performing the movement. When will someone have to run with a sandbag over their shoulder? What sport is that for? Again, NOT a flame...but you can't criticize in one direction.
50 rep overhead squats even at a sub-maximal weight, mechanics break down and the risk of injury increases. Take a piece of 7ft piece of just PVC pipe and and see if you can maintain perfect form (or close) for 50 continuous reps
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I am loving the training. I have been bodybuilding for almost 25 years. Its been like a re-birth of enjoyment and focus. I am driven again to get stronger, leaner, and improve my endurance. I would love to compete in the Reebok Games when I turn 45. A nice goal...versus standing on a stage oiled in posing trunks.
Don't get me wrong and I know I'm spewing a lot hate for crossfit, but if programmed properly, it's a great concept.
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I am loving the training. I have been bodybuilding for almost 25 years. Its been like a re-birth of enjoyment and focus. I am driven again to get stronger, leaner, and improve my endurance. I would love to compete in the Reebok Games when I turn 45. A nice goal...versus standing on a stage oiled in posing trunks.
how many days per week do you do it?
i tried 5, but it kicked my fucking ass :o
i know with runners and track athletes that they basically practice it twice a week via. intervals and anaerobic "lactate" training (intervals once a week, and anaerobic training once a week)
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Well I've got a late season beach holiday coming up in exactly 3 weeks from today, so I have 18 'go till you die' sessions ahead of me to strip about 5-7 lbs, depending. I know my diet isn't going to be super tight but luckily I have the discipline to train 6 days a week, 7 if I have to. I realise it's not clever training this much but every period in my life I overdone the gym, good things happened.
Here's to good things.
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50 rep overhead squats even at a sub-maximal weight, mechanics break down and the risk of injury increases. Take a piece of 7ft piece of just PVC pipe and and see if you can maintain perfect form (or close) for 50 continuous reps
Form breaks after 10 reps at times. You saying 10 reps with higher weights and form break is safer? Also, things like tire flipping...are you saying that its safer for someone to flip a 250# tire 5x than it is to do an overhead squats with an empty olympic bar? Again, Joe...I am failing to see why what you did in the videos is any where safer or different than some crossfit workouts.
Sure you train police, fire, MMA, etc...to get better at their job. But you also train WSM guys...guys who do whacky lifts with near maximal loads. Crossfit competitors (not the average dip shit who trains a week and says he is a cross fit competitor) train for their specific competitions. The thing is, they train the same things that they will be competing in. Its just like an olympic lifter, powerlifter, golfer, etc.
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how many days per week do you do it?
i tried 5, but it kicked my fucking ass :o
i know with runners and track athletes that they basically practice it twice a week via. intervals and anaerobic "lactate" training (intervals once a week, and anaerobic training once a week)
5 days w/ another of 'active rest' (which often turns into a little more than active rest).
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Form breaks after 10 reps at times. You saying 10 reps with higher weights and form break is safer? Also, things like tire flipping...are you saying that its safer for someone to flip a 250# tire 5x than it is to do an overhead squats with an empty olympic bar? Again, Joe...I am failing to see why what you did in the videos is any where safer or different than some
Sure you train police, fire, MMA, etc...to get better at their job. But you also train WSM guys...guys who do whacky lifts with near maximal loads. Crossfit competitors (not the average dip shit who trains a week and says he is a cross fit competitor) train for their specific competitions. The thing is, they train the same things that they will be competing in. Its just like an olympic lifter, powerlifter, golfer, etc.
The difference is a 2or3:1 recovery.
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The difference is a 2or3:1 recovery.
Dont follow your answer...sorry
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Dont follow your answer...sorry
Work to recovery.
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But ask me to do 20 star jumps, 20 push ups x 3 without taking a breather, and I'd gas in minutes, and I mean I was totally fucked, having to almost lie down.
you mean you could "run" 10 miles at a 12 minute pace, which is basically a brisk walk.
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why dont these children go frame some houses, do something with there youth than u sending them through these silly muscle mazes
Lol
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Work to recovery.
Joe, either I am real stupid (total plausible) but could you please refer to the question that your answer is referring to? I asked a couple of questions in the long post and you didn't really touch on much. Not trying to lock horns or get shitty.
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Joe, either I am real stupid (total plausible) but could you please refer to the question that your answer is referring to? I asked a couple of questions in the long post and you didn't really touch on much. Not trying to lock horns or get shitty.
No problem. Which question? I probably missed it.
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No problem. Which question? I probably missed it.
Um, my posts havent been deleted...you should be able to re-read them