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Title: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: a_ahmed on November 10, 2012, 10:34:08 AM
I know for test-e its now common for trt. I tried it and it works for test. My endo is one of those responsible on the research for this.

I would assume others have done other hormones subq? Anyone done tren ace?

Considering trying some tren-ace on workout days in addition to the tren-e dosing i do twice a week.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Overload on November 10, 2012, 01:38:39 PM
I've never done it personally with Tren A, but i know plenty of guys that do. It seems to be very popular right now and most shoot it with a slin pin if the gear is thin enough.


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Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 11, 2012, 06:28:15 PM
Wow have times have changed. I remember all oils were IM and liquids were the only thing that could be sub q.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: a_ahmed on November 11, 2012, 08:31:14 PM
^Yea I asked my endo specifically for IM, he offered me gels i said hell no. I later found out he was one of the researchers responsible for the subq study. It works.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Nicademus on November 11, 2012, 11:02:17 PM
Yes, it works just as well as IM from my experience. 


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: a_ahmed on November 12, 2012, 10:16:48 AM
Where subq do you pin it?


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Nicademus on November 12, 2012, 10:20:13 AM
Shoulders. And yes with a slin pin.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: claymore on November 12, 2012, 03:23:13 PM
Intramuscular


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: OTHstrong on November 12, 2012, 03:58:01 PM
It would not be worth it, I am assuming half of it would leak out.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: darkrid3r on November 13, 2012, 10:21:56 AM
5ml is a lot of liquid to pin sub q  ;D


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: a_ahmed on November 13, 2012, 10:22:31 AM
who the hell shoots 5ml at once anyway lol


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: darkrid3r on November 13, 2012, 01:31:44 PM
who the hell shoots 5ml at once anyway lol

All getbiggers? hahahahha


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Nicademus on November 14, 2012, 04:51:28 PM
who the hell shoots 5ml at once anyway lol


No shit?


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Borracho on November 14, 2012, 05:32:01 PM
All getbiggers? hahahahha

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Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: a_ahmed on November 14, 2012, 05:34:02 PM
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Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: rocco-x on November 18, 2012, 09:05:51 AM
i still for the life of me can't figure out how someone would take all the time to draw oil into a regular sized pin,backload it into a slin pin the take an hour to get the plunger to move.i've tried it with HG,UGL,every type of oil base,EO base...nothing would go thru that pin.even the ugl susp i had,micronized and all,would get about 1/4 of the way down before i had to change pins.why not just do IM and alot of rotations? dlets and glutes you can hit once a week,that's 4 days right there.my bi's i can hit4 different spots on each one at least once a week up to 4cc's each.all this sub-q talk,idk,don't make sense.if it's an intramuscular drug then why are we trying to pin it sub-q...to lesses the scar tissue?if it's not going directly into the muscle then all you're gonna have is an oil knot that leakes,esp if you're pinning ed/eod.to each his own i guess.good luck with that one...


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: a_ahmed on November 18, 2012, 09:51:50 AM
Wheter im or subq the drug gets absorbed into the body hence the studies that proved subq works just as well. Maybe you enjoy being a pin cushion some don't thats all


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Overload on November 18, 2012, 01:32:25 PM
i still for the life of me can't figure out how someone would take all the time to draw oil into a regular sized pin,backload it into a slin pin the take an hour to get the plunger to move.i've tried it with HG,UGL,every type of oil base,EO base...nothing would go thru that pin.even the ugl susp i had,micronized and all,would get about 1/4 of the way down before i had to change pins.why not just do IM and alot of rotations? dlets and glutes you can hit once a week,that's 4 days right there.my bi's i can hit4 different spots on each one at least once a week up to 4cc's each.all this sub-q talk,idk,don't make sense.if it's an intramuscular drug then why are we trying to pin it sub-q...to lesses the scar tissue?if it's not going directly into the muscle then all you're gonna have is an oil knot that leakes,esp if you're pinning ed/eod.to each his own i guess.good luck with that one...

It does seem like a lot of trouble to me as well. I've tried it with some very thin Test P and it wasn't such a great experience.

You see a lot of guys talking about it on the internet, but i don't know anyone who does it personally and i know a lot of guys who have been using large doses for years.


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Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Nicademus on November 18, 2012, 08:55:32 PM
i still for the life of me can't figure out how someone would take all the time to draw oil into a regular sized pin,backload it into a slin pin the take an hour to get the plunger to move.i've tried it with HG,UGL,every type of oil base,EO base...nothing would go thru that pin.even the ugl susp i had,micronized and all,would get about 1/4 of the way down before i had to change pins.why not just do IM and alot of rotations? dlets and glutes you can hit once a week,that's 4 days right there.my bi's i can hit4 different spots on each one at least once a week up to 4cc's each.all this sub-q talk,idk,don't make sense.if it's an intramuscular drug then why are we trying to pin it sub-q...to lesses the scar tissue?if it's not going directly into the muscle then all you're gonna have is an oil knot that leakes,esp if you're pinning ed/eod.to each his own i guess.good luck with that one...

I've never had to backload.  I pull directly w/ the slin pin and inject.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: a_ahmed on November 18, 2012, 09:29:39 PM
Friend of mine uses 27g pin to inject. There were a few people that advocated this too on the net, it works, it just takes a little longer to inject. My friend said it is totally painless.

Slin pins varry in gauge, some are even 31g but apparently it works for some, but again... not all.. and not as quick as some expect...

I never tried slin pins myself, i will if i get some tren ace in my biceps.

However, if hormones do get absorbed subq, it is just less painful and less time consumming to inject subq.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: whitewidow on November 19, 2012, 09:08:04 AM
I know for test-e its now common for trt. I tried it and it works for test. My endo is one of those responsible on the research for this.

I would assume others have done other hormones subq? Anyone done tren ace?

Considering trying some tren-ace on workout days in addition to the tren-e dosing i do twice a week.

If you have potent tren just shoot it into a muscle belly like you are suppose to.  I do not see any need to shoot it sub-cut even site injected is dumb. usually test is best site injected.never heard of many shooting AAS subcut.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Borracho on November 19, 2012, 09:16:09 AM
If you have potent tren just shoot it into a muscle belly like you are suppose to.  I do not see any need to shoot it sub-cut even site injected is dumb. usually test is best site injected.never heard of many shooting AAS subcut.

Purpose of site injection is to create growth in a specific muscle ww?

If thats what it means than I'd imagine all pros would have no weaknesses....this can't work.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Nicademus on November 19, 2012, 10:22:54 AM
Purpose of site injection is to create growth in a specific muscle ww?

If thats what it means than I'd imagine all pros would have no weaknesses....this can't work.

I don't think anybody believes site injections promote muscle growth in that area but rather the oil will give the muscle a slight 'bump' in fullness.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: a_ahmed on November 19, 2012, 12:45:07 PM
lol all these methods go systemic... even igf1's bro science of site location growth is meh at best...

The only thing tha twill cause 'site growth' is synthol and its not really  muscle haha


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: whitewidow on November 19, 2012, 11:39:10 PM
Purpose of site injection is to create growth in a specific muscle ww?

If thats what it means than I'd imagine all pros would have no weaknesses....this can't work.

I have had luck getting bigger biceps site injecting prop into them. I would never shoot any gear sub-cut though. so people are now shooting tren like HGH? nver have heard of this till now! I have heard of people shooting HGH IV style but tren sub-cut? why? potent tren will do the job being shot in a muscle belly.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Nicademus on November 20, 2012, 12:17:56 AM
I have had luck getting bigger biceps site injecting prop into them. I would never shoot any gear sub-cut though. so people are now shooting tren like HGH? nver have heard of this till now! I have heard of people shooting HGH IV style but tren sub-cut? why? potent tren will do the job being shot in a muscle belly.

For me, tren ace is best used ED.  My choice was simple and hardly scientific: Pin myself w/ a tiny ass slin pin everyday as opposed to a standard gauge syringe.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Borracho on November 20, 2012, 04:01:00 AM
I have had luck getting bigger biceps site injecting prop into them. I would never shoot any gear sub-cut though. so people are now shooting tren like HGH? nver have heard of this till now! I have heard of people shooting HGH IV style but tren sub-cut? why? potent tren will do the job being shot in a muscle belly.

I injected my biceps for the first time yesterday with test cyp and man do they hurt...virgin muscle though so it was expected. Not hoping on more growth but was more to have another spot to inject.

wrt the sub q injection I know it works but the thing is that it will affect the aborption rate/half life/peak blood level etc. These things are meant for IM injection but even pinning a different muscle will have an effect in blood concentrations to a certain extent.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: a_ahmed on November 23, 2012, 12:23:30 PM
So I just shot 0.5cc tren-e (125mg) in my tighs. First hit vein -- fail... then hit the meat correctly.

I heated it in hot water for a few minutes, then when drawing, shot 0.5cc air, then drew back.. took some time, had to push back and forth but it did come out... injecting on the other hand was no problem went smooth and eassyyyy. Kind of cool that I tried it.

I guess shooting in tighs is no problem stuck it in deep and bam... but shooting in biceps may be an awkward angle. Oh and so good to have NO PAIN compared to 1" 25 gauge lol.

I dunno why I even use a 1".. no need for such a long needle... i have no idea why anyone unless they are insanely fat would ever need to use a 1.5" needle beats me :-/

I may try biceps next but hips/tighs no fat here and easy to shoot so no brainer as its not awkward to shoot. Will let u guys know of PIP if any in few days there.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: OTHstrong on November 23, 2012, 03:37:50 PM
So I just shot 0.5cc tren-e (125mg) in my tighs. First hit vein -- fail... then hit the meat correctly.

I heated it in hot water for a few minutes, then when drawing, shot 0.5cc air, then drew back.. took some time, had to push back and forth but it did come out... injecting on the other hand was no problem went smooth and eassyyyy. Kind of cool that I tried it.

I guess shooting in tighs is no problem stuck it in deep and bam... but shooting in biceps may be an awkward angle. Oh and so good to have NO PAIN compared to 1" 25 gauge lol.

I dunno why I even use a 1".. no need for such a long needle... i have no idea why anyone unless they are insanely fat would ever need to use a 1.5" needle beats me :-/

I may try biceps next but hips/tighs no fat here and easy to shoot so no brainer as its not awkward to shoot. Will let u guys know of PIP if any in few days there.
1 and half inch is the way to go bro, it is way better to bury the needle deep, it gets absorbed more evenly and believe it or not the stuff leaks out about over the next hour of injecting and you won't even notice. Another reason is you can distort the muscle by doing shallow injections and ruin it's shape and can leave lumps, deeper is always better.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: a_ahmed on November 23, 2012, 03:41:38 PM
I never get lumps, some buddies of mine do and get leaking. I figure they were not going deep enough.

I used to when I first started pinning two years ago trt. I was newb though. Now though, never if ever do i get PIP, no leaking, no lumps. I hit the muscle and I can feel when I hit it vs when the needle is going through subq tissue.

Even today with the slin pin, so far no pip, nothing leaked, i jabbed it in hard and deep and it did hit muscle, there's a different feel I get when pushing it in if it's not in muscle and i can feel it oozing inside (thats when i would have messed up).

This is a longer slin pin not those super short ones. I have no fat on my tighs/hips, rock solid there lol. I guess I found a new shooting spot.

I've never used 1.5" :-/


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: OTHstrong on November 23, 2012, 03:42:12 PM
I have had luck getting bigger biceps site injecting prop into them. I would never shoot any gear sub-cut though. so people are now shooting tren like HGH? nver have heard of this till now! I have heard of people shooting HGH IV style but tren sub-cut? why? potent tren will do the job being shot in a muscle belly.
Yes me to.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: OTHstrong on November 23, 2012, 03:43:45 PM
I never get lumps, some buddies of mine do and get leaking. I figure they were not going deep enough.

I used to when I first started pinning two years ago trt. I was newb though. Now though, never if ever do i get PIP, no leaking, no lumps. I hit the muscle and I can feel when I hit it vs when the needle is going through subq tissue.

Even today with the slin pin, so far no pip, nothing leaked, i jabbed it in hard and deep and it did hit muscle, there's a different feel I get when pushing it in if it's not in muscle and i can feel it oozing inside (thats when i would have messed up).

This is a longer slin pin not those super short ones. I have no fat on my tighs/hips, rock solid there lol. I guess I found a new shooting spot.

I've never used 1.5" :-/
Hey if it works for you, why not  ;)


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: a_ahmed on November 23, 2012, 03:43:52 PM
Yes me to.

Yo broseph, I want your email addy :) PM me. I am making some changes on diet/training/etc... so far so good... but I wouldn't mind sharing ideas with you, I wana take things to the next level :)


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: whitewidow on November 23, 2012, 11:23:53 PM
just pin the tren IM like it should be pinned!


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: a_ahmed on November 24, 2012, 07:13:43 PM
well a small update there is slight PIP but thats to be expected with every injection anyway. No lumps nothing, no swelling, no fever lol... it was a good try. Did other leg today as im bumping up dose.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Mawse on November 25, 2012, 12:51:58 PM
pretty  much only subQ nowadays, home made with a TINY drop of BA in it. even human grade generics have too much BA for me

if like me you're sensative to BA it will destroy your tissue.. I had an MRI on my ass/quads and they are full of black spots / scar tissue. Going sub Q in the hips/upper thighs seems to be the only real solution


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Borracho on November 25, 2012, 02:06:30 PM
Yes me to.

You know your shit but how can you be certain it's specifically from site injecting and not your training, diet, etc?


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: a_ahmed on November 25, 2012, 02:07:06 PM
heh since going on trt i actually stopped even taking the HG test doc was giving me, it was burning like hell... i kept it and eventually used it up, but the UG stuff I got (legit) was totally pain free.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: thephil on March 24, 2013, 11:22:03 PM
have also pinned Tren a sub q. never done more than 1cc tho n it stings a bit more then test. but no cough  :)



Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Borracho on March 25, 2013, 09:14:55 AM
Yes me to.

You've explained it in greater detail in another thread about the muscle fascia stretching and you're 100% right... it works. My left arm has always been a little smaller than the right so I figured what the heck and only pinned that side. Now a few months later both arms are identical in size  :D

Proof that broscience works!  8)


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: OTHstrong on March 25, 2013, 11:03:23 AM
You've explained it in greater detail in another thread about the muscle fascia stretching and you're 100% right... it works. My left arm has always been a little smaller than the right so I figured what the heck and only pinned that side. Now a few months later both arms are identical in size  :D

Proof that broscience works!  8)
ahh, cool, pretty good thinking there.  8)


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: Borracho on March 25, 2013, 12:01:11 PM
ahh, cool, pretty good thinking there.  8)

haha yeah bro....I focused on unilateral movements also and started exercises with the left arm stopping at the same amount of reps for the right one. I would alternate injections between lateral and long head for tricep and for bi's I would just hit the long head. Just writing this here in case anyone is interested.


Title: Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq?
Post by: RRKore on March 31, 2013, 12:45:18 PM


This is a longer slin pin not those super short ones.


How long?  And what gauge?