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Title: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2012, 11:24:07 AM
Good comments.

Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Posted by
CNN's Ashley Killough

(CNN) - Rep. Paul Ryan described his election loss with Mitt Romney last week as a painful surprise but argued the president won re-election "fair and square," according to the congressman's interviews with local news outlets in Wisconsin on Monday.

"It hurts to lose a big election like this, but I don't have any regrets whatsoever," Ryan told The Journal Times of Racine on Monday, adding that they "ran the kind of race we wanted to run" and campaigned on "specific solutions and big ideas."

The former GOP vice presidential nominee said the campaign was especially "shocked" by the results in Ohio, a crucial battleground that was carried by Obama.

"Once we realized that we weren’t going to win Ohio, that’s when we realized that it wasn’t going to turn out for us," he said on WISN, a CNN affiliate in Milwaukee.

"The numbers we were looking at looked like we stood a pretty good chance of winning," he continued. "So, when the numbers came in, going the other direction. When we saw the turnout that was occurring in urban areas that were unprecedented, it did come as a bit of a shock. So, those are the toughest losses to have - the ones that catch you by surprise."

And to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, he described election night-his first loss ever-as a "foreign experience" but ultimately said the race was a "very net positive experience" for him and his wife, Janna.

While public polls indicated the race could potentially be too close to call on election night, President Barack Obama was projected to win the race by midnight (Eastern Standard Time). Florida, the remaining battleground that had yet to decide a winner, was called for the president on Saturday. In the end, Obama won with 51% of the vote to Romney's 48%.

Ryan said Obama's campaign "did a better job of getting the voters to the polls" and ultimately "won fair and square," according to the Journal Times.

Following election night, Ryan returned to his hometown of Janesville, Wisconsin and "unplugged," he told the Journal Times. The congressman said he went to his son's basketball games and helped his daughter, Liza, get her hunter safety certificate. Placing a ban on news, Ryan said his family only watched football.

While he lost the presidential race, Ryan defeated his Democratic challenger in Wisconsin's 1st Congressional District and won re-election to an eighth term in the House. He'll soon head back to Capitol Hill for a lame duck session where Congress faces an end-of-the-year deadline to find a deficit-reduction plan and avert the so-called fiscal cliff.

Ryan, echoing calls by House Speaker John Boehner, said the president needs to "lead by putting out specific solutions that we can work from" in determining how to reverse the nation's skyrocketing debt. The House Budget Committee chairman, who confirmed he would continue to hold the position, said he favors tax reform and a "hard look" at entitlement programs.

Democrats, however, are pushing for an increase on tax rates for the wealthiest Americans in addition to spending cuts-a measure that faces strong opposition from the GOP.

"Whether people intended to or not, they re-elected a divided government," Ryan told the Journal Times. "But the difference is, this time we need to work."

As for 2016, he brushed off talk of a presidential run, telling the Journal Sentinel "Let's not talk about that stuff."

"That's four years away," he continued. "I think we're all tired of presidential politics at this time."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/12/ryan-says-obama-won-fair-and-square-describes-loss-as-foreign-experience/


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 13, 2012, 11:30:36 AM
So they ran the kind of race  they wanted to run ...that's disappointing, since both candidates ran a hugely negative and often untruthful campaign. I would hope he would have said, "you know, when I reflect on the race, I wish we had focused more on what we will do to address the issues, than on how awful Obama is..."


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2012, 11:32:18 AM
Romney didn't get down in the mud like Obama.  No accusations of murder.  Didn't call Obama a felon.  Didn't let his crony go to the floor of the Senate and call him a tax cheat.  Not much of a comparison. 



Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 13, 2012, 11:34:13 AM
Romney didn't get down in the mud like Obama.  No accusations of murder.  Didn't call Obama a felon.  Didn't let his crony go to the floor of the Senate and call him a tax cheat.  Not much of a comparison. 



Romney did not intend to win.   He went harder at Newt and Perry than he did Obama.   Think about it.   


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Straw Man on November 13, 2012, 11:36:05 AM
Maybe now that the election is over Ryan and Romney can fill in the missing pieces of their deficit reduction plan

You know, if they really are interested in helping out the country


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2012, 11:42:46 AM
Romney did not intend to win.   He went harder at Newt and Perry than he did Obama.   Think about it.   

Actually he went harder after Obama during the primaries than he did in the general.  I wouldn't say he wanted to lose.  I think he wanted to win, but do it his way.  In hindsight, he needed to fight much dirtier like Obama did to win.  Sad fact of politics. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 13, 2012, 11:44:07 AM
Actually he went harder after Obama during the primaries than he did in the general.  I wouldn't say he wanted to lose.  I think he wanted to win, but do it his way.  In hindsight, he needed to fight much dirtier like Obama did to win.  Sad fact of politics. 

I don't know man - so many things never brought up - i think on purpose. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2012, 11:46:19 AM
I don't know man - so many things never brought up - i think on purpose. 

We can do a lot of MMQB.  He could have went hard on Benghazi during the last debate.  Could have highlighted Obama's numerous misrepresentations during his presidency.  Lots of things could have been done differently. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 13, 2012, 11:46:42 AM
Actually he went harder after Obama during the primaries than he did in the general.  I wouldn't say he wanted to lose.  I think he wanted to win, but do it his way.  In hindsight, he needed to fight much dirtier like Obama did to win.  Sad fact of politics. 

The experts say negative campaigning works.. It has the opposite effect on me, when ANY candidate starts slinging mud, I mentally turn them off. I can't stand mud slinging. Both parties do it, because apparently that's what WE like.... Makes me ashamed sometimes.  


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2012, 11:53:52 AM
The experts say negative campaigning works.. It has the opposite effect on me, when ANY candidate starts slinging mud, I mentally turn them off. I can't stand mud slinging. Both parties do it, because apparently that's what WE like.... Makes me ashamed sometimes.  

The experts are correct.  It absolutely works.  I don't like it either, but we are in the minority. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Straw Man on November 13, 2012, 11:54:11 AM
Actually he went harder after Obama during the primaries than he did in the general.  I wouldn't say he wanted to lose.  I think he wanted to win, but do it his way.  In hindsight, he needed to fight much dirtier like Obama did to win.  Sad fact of politics. 

your advice to Romney was to fight even dirtier

should he have lied more too ?


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 13, 2012, 11:55:26 AM
your advice to Romney was to fight even dirtier

should he have lied more too ?

It worked for obama obviously. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Straw Man on November 13, 2012, 11:56:40 AM
It worked for obama obviously. 

I'm sure that's how it appears to you

btw - are you still leaving @ 99,999



Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 13, 2012, 12:19:44 PM
It worked for obama obviously. 

You gonna Honor our bet?


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: whork on November 13, 2012, 05:11:35 PM
It worked for obama obviously. 

Romney lied a lot more in this race and you know it


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: tu_holmes on November 13, 2012, 05:31:58 PM
I'm sure that's how it appears to you

btw - are you still leaving @ 99,999



I hope not... This person we are reading today is using his reason and common sense.

I like this guy... always have.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: 240 is Back on November 13, 2012, 05:39:41 PM
Ryan will make a fine FOX analyst.  Maybe he'll quietly retire on christmas eve so nobody notices.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: 240 is Back on November 13, 2012, 05:40:48 PM
I hope not... This person we are reading today is using his reason and common sense.

I like this guy... always have.


agreed.   most here would agree getbig politics sucked for that week without 333386. 

when 240 is the one responsible for posting anti-obama articles, it's not a good thing.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Straw Man on November 13, 2012, 05:44:52 PM
I hope not... This person we are reading today is using his reason and common sense.

I like this guy... always have.


reason and common sense?

These generals were all set up and caught in the honey trap by Obama and his gang of marxist criminals, traitors, thugs, welfare maggots, communists who are afraid that they were going to tell the truth about Obama's treason in Libya.  Obama was arming the local Jihadi's in a sort of Fast n Furious in Libya and Amb. Stevens stiffed a few locals who went to get revenge.  The idea that this was over a video is as ludicrous and the stupid fucking mental patients who re-elected their God King Cult Messiah ObamaClaus. 

A big purge is underway, General Ham was sacked and many others in the Naval Command are being fired as well. 

he's the one who said he was leaving because of work and other issuess when he hit 99,999

he can always recant if he wants to but let's not pretend he's suddenly is sane and reasonable


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: whork on November 14, 2012, 02:03:32 AM
agreed.   most here would agree getbig politics sucked for that week without 333386. 

when 240 is the one responsible for posting anti-obama articles, it's not a good thing.

I liked it when he was gone

His constant copy-paste and namecalling is so old


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 14, 2012, 06:25:42 AM
Romney didn't get down in the mud like Obama.  No accusations of murder.  Didn't call Obama a felon.  Didn't let his crony go to the floor of the Senate and call him a tax cheat.  Not much of a comparison. 




 ::)

No, he let those SuperPACS do that along with Donald Trump, Orly, etc.  Romney was wallowing in the mud like Obama was....lets get real.  None of them ran a clean campaign


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: 240 is Back on November 14, 2012, 06:51:29 AM
Romney didn't get down in the mud like Obama.  No accusations of murder.  Didn't call Obama a felon.  Didn't let his crony go to the floor of the Senate and call him a tax cheat.  Not much of a comparison. 




global politics is played in the mud.  global politics involve a dozen countries pointing deadly weapons at each other and demanding things.

If romney was TOUGH enough to call Obama a kenyan traitor, he probably would have won.   Newt or santorum probably would have gotten WAY tougher with obama, as they were way tougher than romney in the debates.  Romney only won by outspending everyone 6 to 1. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2012, 06:56:36 AM
I wish benny could post those comments I made at the time.  I was far better poster back then. 


global politics is played in the mud.  global politics involve a dozen countries pointing deadly weapons at each other and demanding things.

If romney was TOUGH enough to call Obama a kenyan traitor, he probably would have won.   Newt or santorum probably would have gotten WAY tougher with obama, as they were way tougher than romney in the debates.  Romney only won by outspending everyone 6 to 1. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 08:18:59 AM
Romney didn't get down in the mud like Obama.  No accusations of murder.  Didn't call Obama a felon.  Didn't let his crony go to the floor of the Senate and call him a tax cheat.  Not much of a comparison. 



Wow... just wow


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2012, 08:23:54 AM
Wow... just wow

Wow what?  Romney ran his campaign like a country club milqetoast pussy. 

O-THUG ran as a sewer rat


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 09:33:57 AM
Wow what?  Romney ran his campaign like a country club milqetoast pussy. 

O-THUG ran as a sewer rat

So why did you keep saying


LANDSLIDE COMING!!!!!!!!

Why did you praise every pro romney and attempt to debunk every Obama one?

If you really feel that


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 10:11:02 AM
So why did you keep saying


LANDSLIDE COMING!!!!!!!!

Why did you praise every pro romney and attempt to debunk every Obama one?

If you really feel that

BUMP FOR 333


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2012, 10:13:54 AM
BUMP FOR 333

I'm not responding to your bs.  Romney ran a bland campaign


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: tu_holmes on November 14, 2012, 10:16:55 AM
I'm not responding to your bs.  Romney ran a bland campaign

Do you not think that the Republican base was pretty fired up?


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2012, 10:17:44 AM
Do you not think that the Republican base was pretty fired up?


No.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 10:19:09 AM
I'm not responding to your bs.  Romney ran a bland campaign
But you.. yourself were sreaming from the mountian

LANDSLIDE COMING

So hids campaign must have been good in your eyes,,

its not my BS... its yours


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2012, 10:24:22 AM
But you.. yourself were sreaming from the mountian

LANDSLIDE COMING

So hids campaign must have been good in your eyes,,

its not my BS... its yours

or . . . . . . . . . . ..

Obama has been so awful that people just want him gone?????   About 49% in the pop vote.

Ever cross your mind that many people are ABO? 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 10:47:37 AM
or . . . . . . . . . . ..

Obama has been so awful that people just want him gone?????   About 49% in the pop vote.

Ever cross your mind that many people are ABO? 

But you were the one touting all of those polls that showed Romney ahead and then shunning the polls that showed Obama ahead.
You were the guy who kept with the LANDSLIDE COMING!!!!... What gave you that thought?


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2012, 10:50:11 AM
But you were the one touting all of those polls that showed Romney ahead and then shunning the polls that showed Obama ahead.
You were the guy who kept with the LANDSLIDE COMING!!!!... What gave you that thought?

And I was wrong.   A lot of the polls were wrong.   

Does not mean we are better off as a country the economy still sucks, obama still sucks, still have holder, jarret, and all the other thugs.

People cheering obama's win are the same types who cheered when OJ walked. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2012, 11:27:14 AM

 ::)

No, he let those SuperPACS do that along with Donald Trump, Orly, etc.  Romney was wallowing in the mud like Obama was....lets get real.  None of them ran a clean campaign

Romney didn't run a dirty campaign.  Obama did.  Trump wasn't part of anyone's PAC.  He's rouge.  Romney didn't do anything remotely similar to the tax cheat crap or murder accusations.  Or calling someone a felon. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: tu_holmes on November 14, 2012, 11:30:18 AM
Romney didn't run a dirty campaign.  Obama did.  Trump wasn't part of anyone's PAC.  He's rouge.  Romney didn't do anything remotely similar to the tax cheat crap or murder accusations.  Or calling someone a felon. 

Oh bullshit.

Romney released just as many bullshit lies to bad mouth obama during his campaign as you do on a daily basis...

I fucking hate the holier than thou shit when EVERYONE knows that Romney would have said anything he had to if it would have helped him win.

CUT THE SHIT!


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 11:30:29 AM
Romney didn't run a dirty campaign.  Obama did.  Trump wasn't part of anyone's PAC.  He's rouge.  Romney didn't do anything remotely similar to the tax cheat crap or murder accusations.  Or calling someone a felon. 

Chrystler Motors?


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: 240 is Back on November 14, 2012, 11:32:01 AM
Romney didn't run a dirty campaign.  Obama did.  Trump wasn't part of anyone's PAC.  He's rouge.  

No, but Trump and Romney were certainly on the same team - Trump's endorsement just before Super Tuesday, etc.

he might be rogue, but I sure don't remember romney criticizing his statements ;)


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: tu_holmes on November 14, 2012, 11:33:18 AM
Chrystler Motors?

Saying that Obama caused some lady cancer?

People are just full of shit.

Politics has always been and always will be dirty.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2012, 11:34:46 AM
Chrystler Motors?

What about it?


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 12:10:45 PM
What about it?

If you dont know the relevance of Chrysler Motors as it pertains to the campaign...you obviously arent qualified to be the mod if the politics board... thats just retarded


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2012, 12:15:10 PM
If you dont know the relevance of Chrysler Motors as it pertains to the campaign...you obviously arent qualified to be the mod if the politics board... thats just retarded


Go read the new rules coming - they are meant for people like you chief. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 12:17:27 PM

Go read the new rules coming - they are meant for people like you chief. 

LANDSLIDE COMING!!!!!!


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2012, 12:19:30 PM
LANDSLIDE COMING!!!!!!

Yeah - you see the market since O-TERRORIST was re-elected ?  Landslide and avalanche in the market. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 12:21:41 PM
Yeah - you see the market since O-TERRORIST was re-elected ?  Landslide and avalanche in the market. 
Are you going to honor our bet?


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2012, 12:24:02 PM
Are you going to honor our bet?

No.   :P


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: 240 is Back on November 14, 2012, 12:35:53 PM
lol!  waht was yalls bet?


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 12:37:35 PM
No.   :P

I didnt expect you to... youre that type


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2012, 12:38:25 PM
I didnt expect you to... youre that type

Bas Rutten > Obama


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 12:39:53 PM
lol!  waht was yalls bet?

If Obama wins 333 changes his avtar to Obama...IF Romney wins, i change mine to mittens.

He wouldnt honor it, but he talks about people being dishonest... amazing


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2012, 12:46:53 PM
If Obama wins 333 changes his avtar to Obama...IF Romney wins, i change mine to mittens.

He wouldnt honor it, but he talks about people being dishonest... amazing

You happy now?


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2012, 12:51:53 PM
If you dont know the relevance of Chrysler Motors as it pertains to the campaign...you obviously arent qualified to be the mod if the politics board... thats just retarded

 ::)

And if you consider "Chrysler Motors" to be akin to calling someone a murderer, tax cheat, or felon, then you should stick to following 33 around the board. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: OzmO on November 14, 2012, 01:00:46 PM
You guys need to let it go.  3333 manned up, said he was wrong.  Time to move on


PS: and if stays past 100K post who gives a shit?  BFD. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2012, 01:02:45 PM
You guys need to let it go.  3333 manned up, said he was wrong.  Time to move on


PS: and if stays past 100K post who gives a shit?  BFD. 

Agree. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: whork on November 14, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
Romney didn't run a dirty campaign.  Obama did.  Trump wasn't part of anyone's PAC.  He's rouge.  Romney didn't do anything remotely similar to the tax cheat crap or murder accusations.  Or calling someone a felon. 

BB your kneepadding of the GOP makes me sick.

No wonder you vote for them though you live on a lie.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2012, 01:06:34 PM
BB your kneepadding of the GOP makes me sick.

No wonder you vote for them though you live on a lie.

whork everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Have a nice day.   :)


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: whork on November 14, 2012, 01:12:23 PM
whork everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Have a nice day.   :)

You are entitled to your opinion but not facts. They are universal.

You too :)


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 01:25:47 PM
::)

And if you consider "Chrysler Motors" to be akin to calling someone a murderer, tax cheat, or felon, then you should stick to following 33 around the board. 

But how is that a clean campaign when its a blatant lie?


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2012, 02:08:56 PM
But how is that a clean campaign when its a blatant lie?

He was just wrong.  He didn't attack Obama's character, call him a criminal, etc.  Really no comparison to how they attacked Romney.  They pretty much put him in the same category as some organized crime figure by talking about accounts in Switzerland, etc.   


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: 24KT on November 14, 2012, 02:37:04 PM
Maybe now that the election is over Ryan and Romney can fill in the missing pieces of their deficit reduction plan

You know, if they really are interested in helping out the country

Was thinking the exact same thing!

If they can be so off and so blindsided by these numbers, how the heck can they be expected to get the numbers of the federal budget. How would they get those deficit numbers down & under control?


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: tu_holmes on November 14, 2012, 02:43:44 PM
But how is that a clean campaign when its a blatant lie?

Mark doesn't want to respond to anything I say, but again I ask... What about when Romney had adds blaming Obama for a lady dying of cancer?


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Grape Ape on November 14, 2012, 02:48:51 PM
Mark doesn't want to respond to anything I say, but again I ask... What about when Romney had adds blaming Obama for a lady dying of cancer?

I honestly thought it Romney getting accused of that:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2012/08/08/cnn-takes-apart-obama-super-pac-ad-blaming-romney-womans-cancer-death-te


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: 24KT on November 14, 2012, 02:50:25 PM
I hope not... This person we are reading today is using his reason and common sense.

I like this guy... always have.


Gotta reluctantly agree.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: tu_holmes on November 14, 2012, 02:50:27 PM
I honestly thought it Romney getting accused of that:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2012/08/08/cnn-takes-apart-obama-super-pac-ad-blaming-romney-womans-cancer-death-te

I thought it was reversed?

http://thehill.com/video/campaign/243497-obama-ad-suggests-romney-running-dirty-campaign

"Monday on the campaign trail, Romney blasted Obama for failing to denounce the ad, which links Obama to the death of a woman from cancer, saying, “Mr. President, get your campaign out of the gutter.""


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Grape Ape on November 14, 2012, 02:52:59 PM
I thought it was reversed?

http://thehill.com/video/campaign/243497-obama-ad-suggests-romney-running-dirty-campaign

"Monday on the campaign trail, Romney blasted Obama for failing to denounce the ad, which links Obama to the death of a woman from cancer, saying, “Mr. President, get your campaign out of the gutter.""


I think there's a typo in your quote - the bolded part should read Romney.    Even the article you're showing supports this.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: tu_holmes on November 14, 2012, 02:54:43 PM
I think there's a typo in your quote - the bolded part should read Romney.    Even the article you're showing supports this.

That's what I read and I did a copy and paste.

So then the article is just quoted wrong.

Thanks for the info... Stupid articles.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: 24KT on November 14, 2012, 02:56:12 PM
agreed.   most here would agree getbig politics sucked for that week without 333386. 

when 240 is the one responsible for posting anti-obama articles, it's not a good thing.

Ummm... well actually I kind of liked the fact that I could actually keep up with the posts.
It's been years since I've looked at the board and saw most of the posts didn't have a NEW indicator, and it's been years since I've seen a bunch of legible subject titles that didn't include some racist, or bigotted rant all on the same subject posted by the same person.

And yes, it is a very sad day when you start posting anti-obama articles.
Never forget, ...you're a kneepadder!  ::) whatever the heck that is.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Grape Ape on November 14, 2012, 02:57:22 PM
That's what I read and I did a copy and paste.

So then the article is just quoted wrong.

Thanks for the info... Stupid articles.


No problem.

Obama's campaign was pretty negative.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: tu_holmes on November 14, 2012, 02:59:10 PM
No problem.

Obama's campaign was pretty negative.

I agree... But I have always thought that was politics... Remember Swift Boat? How about When Bush basically said that he had God and the other party didn't?

Seems that negativity is the name of the game in politics.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Grape Ape on November 14, 2012, 03:02:53 PM
I agree... But I have always thought that was politics... Remember Swift Boat? How about When Bush basically said that he had God and the other party didn't?

Seems that negativity is the name of the game in politics.

No doubt, but I heard more than one Massachusetts liberal up here state that they wished Obama would talk about himself instead being in constant attack mode.  Small sample size, of course, but never heard that up here last time or on any other election.

They're all scum.  I just think this one was a little more scummy.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: 24KT on November 14, 2012, 03:09:01 PM

global politics is played in the mud.  global politics involve a dozen countries pointing deadly weapons at each other and demanding things.

If romney was TOUGH enough to call Obama a kenyan traitor, he probably would have won.   Newt or santorum probably would have gotten WAY tougher with obama, as they were way tougher than romney in the debates.  Romney only won by outspending everyone 6 to 1. 

If Romney had been STUPID enough to call Obama a "Kenyan traitor" his defeat would have been even more decisive and humiliating than it was. Their problem was they didn't stand for anything. They weren't appealing to people to vote FOR Romney, their appeal was for people to vote AGAINST Obama. And far worse, their appeal was to the stupidest, most bigotted, and intellectually challenged people ON THE PLANET!

And they wondered what happened.  ::)

I'll tell you what happened, ...the GOP got rid of the one man who could actually beat Obama, in favour of a corporate whore who made no secret of the fact that he as willing to get into bed ith anything & anyone. Nobody wants an STD. That's why you limit your partners.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: 24KT on November 14, 2012, 03:16:43 PM
Wow what?  Romney ran his campaign like a country club milqetoast pussy. 

O-THUG ran as a sewer rat

Oh Puleaze! Just because accusations weren't coming out of Romney's mouth, doesn't mean he ran a clean campaign. Not when he can convince mindless drones with political OCD to post non-stop vicious racist rants attacking Obama and his wife 24 hours a day / 7 days a week.

In the end, the puppet masters decided they would forgive Obama for his previous betrayal on keystone, and give him another chance. Romney was on standby in case they felt Obama could not be counted on to continue doing their bidding.

Now that he is back in office, this is where the rubber meets the road, ...and we will see whose side he is really on... that of the puppet masters, ...or the people.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: 24KT on November 14, 2012, 03:28:49 PM
He was just wrong.  He didn't attack Obama's character, call him a criminal, etc.  Really no comparison to how they attacked Romney.  They pretty much put him in the same category as some organized crime figure by talking about accounts in Switzerland, etc.   

He DOES have accounts in Switzerland, AND the Caymans,
If you had any idea some of the people Romney has gotten into bed with over the years, it would blow your mind. I think it would probably surprise most people, if not for the way they watched him switch positions during this election. The republicans came up with the term for Kerry in 2004, but I can't think of a bigger flip flopper than Romney.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2012, 03:56:16 PM
He DOES have accounts in Switzerland, AND the Caymans,
If you had any idea some of the people Romney has gotten into bed with over the years, it would blow your mind. I think it would probably surprise most people, if not for the way they watched him switch positions during this election. The republicans came up with the term for Kerry in 2004, but I can't think of a bigger flip flopper than Romney.


I know he has accounts in foreign banks.  The reason they brought that up was to try and make him look like a criminal.  Having money in foreign banks is not criminal.  Nothing wrong with it at all. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 04:47:32 PM
I know he has accounts in foreign banks.  The reason they brought that up was to try and make him look like a criminal.  Having money in foreign banks is not criminal.  Nothing wrong with it at all. 

lol... alright man.. you got it... Romney is a saint..  ::)


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: 240 is Back on November 14, 2012, 04:54:04 PM
And yes, it is a very sad day when you start posting anti-obama articles.
Never forget, ...you're a kneepadder!  ::) whatever the heck that is.

yep, i'm the only kneepadder in the USA who is also a birther.  Weird how that works out, huh?


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2012, 08:28:01 PM
lol... alright man.. you got it... Romney is a saint..  ::)

 ::) Never called him a saint.  But he is a good man, has led a good life, and ran a clean campaign.



Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2012, 08:30:47 PM
::) Never called him a saint.  But he is a good man, has led a good life, and ran a clean campaign.



Calling someone a felon and murderer is fine.

Disputing where jeeps made?   DASTARDLY! 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2012, 08:35:44 PM
Calling someone a felon and murderer is fine.

Disputing where jeeps made?   DASTARDLY! 

Yep.  Ridiculous.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 08:36:32 PM
Calling someone a felon and murderer is fine.

Disputing where jeeps made?   DASTARDLY! 

felon?


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2012, 08:38:47 PM
felon?


LOL.  You are so uninformed and ignorant it's laughable.    Yes, look it up.  Cutter called him a felon as did Reid.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 08:39:29 PM
felon?

obama called romney a felon?


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 08:40:02 PM

LOL.  You are so uninformed and ignorant it's laughable.    Yes, look it up. 

LANDSLIDE COMING


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2012, 08:40:15 PM
obama called romney a felon?


Look it up tool.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 08:41:38 PM

Look it up tool.
Howd looking up those polls go............tool




LANDSLIDE COMING!!!!!!!!!!!


BOOM...


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 08:42:55 PM

Look it up tool.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/08/obama-camp-its-ok-to-call-mitt-romney-a-felon-and-killer-video/

This is what i watched.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 08:45:30 PM
Either Mitt Romney, through his own words and his own signature, was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the SEC, which is a felony, or he was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the American people to avoid responsibility for some of the consequences of his investment,”


in neither did she say "romney is a felon...


you two are full of shit


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: 24KT on November 14, 2012, 08:59:42 PM
Either Mitt Romney, through his own words and his own signature, was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the SEC, which is a felony, or he was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the American people to avoid responsibility for some of the consequences of his investment,”


in neither did she say "romney is a felon...


you two are full of shit

Well what did you expect from them? Of course they're full of shit, ...that's all they've been fed. They've been fed a steady diet of BS, have eaten it all up, and in some cases went back for seconds. Of course they're full of shit. I doubt either would recognize the truth without electro-shock therapy, administered at a re-education camp.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: whork on November 15, 2012, 01:33:57 AM
Well what did you expect from them? Of course they're full of shit, ...that's all they've been fed. They've been fed a steady diet of BS, have eaten it all up, and in some cases went back for seconds. Of course they're full of shit. I doubt either would recognize the truth without electro-shock therapy, administered at a re-education camp.

True


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 15, 2012, 07:47:49 AM
Well what did you expect from them? Of course they're full of shit, ...that's all they've been fed. They've been fed a steady diet of BS, have eaten it all up, and in some cases went back for seconds. Of course they're full of shit. I doubt either would recognize the truth without electro-shock therapy, administered at a re-education camp.

Does it ever end?

"X said A about Y!"

No, here is the link showing X did NOT say A about Y.. (No response)

"Well X said  B about Y!"

No, here's a link showing X actually said ___ about Y.. (no response)

With political pundits on TV and this board, there is no penalty for spreading BS. It doesn't matter to them what the truth is, it only matters that they continue to spread BS. Why even bother debating them?

 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 15, 2012, 11:18:49 AM
wow... word... so nothing else now..yall just act like we didnt discuss this Felon thing... and leave the thread.. amazing


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2012, 11:24:21 AM
Either Mitt Romney, through his own words and his own signature, was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the SEC, which is a felony, or he was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the American people to avoid responsibility for some of the consequences of his investment,”


in neither did she say "romney is a felon...


you two are full of shit

Pretty naive analysis.  Next you should find the transcript of the healthcare video and point out how they don't actually use the word "murder" or directly accuse Romney of murdering the woman.  Then you should get the transcript of Harry Reid's speech on the floor of the Senate, and highlight how he didn't actually call Romney a "tax cheat." 

You could also find transcripts of the numerous comments about overseas bank accounts and explain how they never directly called Romney a criminal. 

But if you're not a liberal hack, and you have common sense, you know exactly what they were doing to Romney.  Plain as day. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 15, 2012, 11:26:54 AM
Pretty naive analysis.  Next you should find the transcript of the healthcare video and point out how they don't actually use the word "murder" or directly accuse Romney of murdering the woman.  Then you should get the transcript of Harry Reid's speech on the floor of the Senate, and highlight how he didn't actually call Romney a "tax cheat." 

You could also find transcripts of the numerous comments about overseas bank accounts and explain how they never directly called Romney a criminal. 

But if you're not a liberal hack, and you have common sense, you know exactly what they were doing to Romney.  Plain as day. 

Leftists liberal hacks and the Cult of Obama will never admit what happened.  The messianic doper and his flock of fools are strunk out on hopium.


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2012, 11:43:55 AM
Leftists liberal hacks and the Cult of Obama will never admit what happened.  The messianic doper and his flock of fools are strunk out on hopium.

Hopium.  lol   :)


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 15, 2012, 11:45:02 AM
Pretty naive analysis.  Next you should find the transcript of the healthcare video and point out how they don't actually use the word "murder" or directly accuse Romney of murdering the woman.  Then you should get the transcript of Harry Reid's speech on the floor of the Senate, and highlight how he didn't actually call Romney a "tax cheat." 

You could also find transcripts of the numerous comments about overseas bank accounts and explain how they never directly called Romney a criminal. 

But if you're not a liberal hack, and you have common sense, you know exactly what they were doing to Romney.  Plain as day. 

So you have another source of someone saying he was a felon.. if not... this is weak as hell and you know it.... you are a right winged hack that would rather listen to fake outrage than get facts. There was no one in Obamas Campaign calling Romney a Felon as you  stated.. so unless you got something from Obamas camp saying "Romney is a Felon"..... dude its freaking weak.. .


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 15, 2012, 11:46:22 AM
So you have another source of someone saying he was a felon.. if not... this is weak as hell and you know it.... you are a right winged hack that would rather listen to fake outrage than get facts. There was no one in Obamas Campaign calling Romney a Felon as you  stated.. so unless you got something from Obamas camp saying "Romney is a Felon"..... dude its freaking weak.. .

That new rule was made for you - go read it. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2012, 11:50:54 AM
So you have another source of someone saying he was a felon.. if not... this is weak as hell and you know it.... you are a right winged hack that would rather listen to fake outrage than get facts. There was no one in Obamas Campaign calling Romney a Felon as you  stated.. so unless you got something from Obamas camp saying "Romney is a Felon"..... dude its freaking weak.. .

You disagree.  That's fine.  Not surprised.  Don't have anything to add other than what I said in my last post. 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 15, 2012, 07:10:41 PM
You disagree.  That's fine.  Not surprised.  Don't have anything to add other than what I said in my last post. 

So there is nothing where someone is calling Romney a Felon?


Thought so


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 15, 2012, 07:11:57 PM
So there is nothing where someone is calling Romney a Felon?


Thought so


Dear God are the 99's blind


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 15, 2012, 07:17:01 PM

Dear God are the 99's blind


show me the quote where someone in Obamas Camp called Romney a Felon


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 15, 2012, 07:18:08 PM

Dear God are the 99's blind


Hold up...im blind... yeah but you were the brainwashed guy posting LANDSLIDE COMING!!!!!!!!!!!


You........ my friend..............Need to shut the fuck up.. You were Dominated


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 15, 2012, 07:19:34 PM

Hold up...im blind... yeah but you were the brainwashed guy posting LANDSLIDE COMING!!!!!!!!!!!


You........ my friend..............Need to shut the fuck up.. You were Dominated


By the wortheless parasites and welfare scum?  Yes! 


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: Option D on November 15, 2012, 07:21:30 PM

By the wortheless parasites and welfare scum?  Yes! 

LOL... insult all you want.. but you were the idiot uninformed dick face...

LANDSLIDE COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: WOOO on November 15, 2012, 07:22:16 PM
Romney didn't get down in the mud like Obama.  No accusations of murder.  Didn't call Obama a felon.  Didn't let his crony go to the floor of the Senate and call him a tax cheat.  Not much of a comparison. 




romney is a bible thumping pig...

wouldn't let him run a lemonade stand...


Title: Re: Ryan says Obama won 'fair and square'
Post by: 240 is Back on November 15, 2012, 07:39:50 PM
if the repub talking point (as evidenced by SOME getbiggers) is "obama played too dirty in the 2012 election, that's why we lost..."

Then you suck.  you fcking suck.  You deserve to lose every election for the next 100 years.  If you're not tough enough to defeat a guy who

1) forced obamacare down throats
2) was probably born outside of USA
3) who has UE at 8% and in reality over 12%
4) running shit in the middle of the 2nd great depression...

And the #1 talking point was "you didn't specifically use the wording act of terror, the transcript said..."

Sorry, but romney wasn't tough enough to be president.   Trump would have been beating the shit out of obama in that debate, as would newt or santorum.

mitt was just too soft.