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Title: hashimotos disease
Post by: hrspwr on November 17, 2012, 06:43:11 AM
Went for a physical, bloodwork came back with weird thyroid values. Doctor started spitting out words like hashimotos, graves and celiac disease, took more blood and told me come back in 3 weeks.
 Have been pretty fortunate to be healthy up until this year, had a bad lung infection this summer and think it may have set off something with the auto-immune system.
 It would explain the weight gain, lethargy, itching, migraines and excessive trips to the bathroom.

 My thyroid peroxidase antibody is supposed to be between 0 and 59, mine came back 1904. My TSH is also very low. I am just now learning about this condition, was hoping someone here may know a good way to get healthy again.
 Right now the doc has just got me on probiotics and some digestive enzymes while waiting for more information.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: Donny on November 17, 2012, 07:02:43 AM
more a question for someone on here with a Medical background.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: hrspwr on November 17, 2012, 07:08:49 AM
True, though there are some pretty smart people here that know a lot about the human body.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: Donny on November 17, 2012, 07:46:02 AM
I think as long as your Doctor gives you a green light to do sport then i would start on a basic programme like anyone else. I take it you have training experience so you know what to do. I had a friend with i think what you have and he put on a lot of weight. He found cardio very difficult and started very slowly. I also take it you are training naturally? maybe that is also a consideration if you are taking medication. There are a couple of good guys on here who have a good solid background in Medicine.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: Donny on November 17, 2012, 08:06:52 AM
yes it´s what he has but it´s called in German "schilddrüsenunterfunktion" and i remember he was going to get an op which he did not want and never did, this was a few years back. I have not seen him for a while but as far as i know he still does swimming.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: hrspwr on November 17, 2012, 08:19:53 AM
I lift, run and take a boxing class every week. I am on a testosterone gel but thats all, wish there was more of that stuff.  :D I have gained 20 lbs in two months even after busting ass and eating clean.

Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: Montague on November 17, 2012, 06:23:58 PM
Doctor started spitting out words like hashimotos, graves and celiac disease...My thyroid peroxidase antibody is supposed to be between 0 and 59, mine came back 1904. My TSH is also very low.


It's not my area of involvement, but GEEZUS...I remember seeing hashimoto/graves disease mentioned one time in one text book in one class. Our professor was a pathology expert and I think discussed it for about 30 seconds and included one related question on a test or quiz.
This is honestly the first time I've seen it mentioned since that class.

Anyway, did your doc mention anything about putting you on Synthroid?
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: hrspwr on November 17, 2012, 08:13:00 PM
not yet, had my blood shipped off for some nutritional cellular level test. supposed to go over the results dec 3.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: Donny on November 18, 2012, 02:36:00 AM
not yet, had my blood shipped off for some nutritional cellular level test. supposed to go over the results dec 3.
keep us informed, i am interested too.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: Butterbean on November 27, 2012, 01:32:06 PM
Someone who used to post here a lot had been diagnosed w/Hashimoto's.   I think it may have been a wrong diagnosis but I can't remember all the details other than they did discover they had thyroid cancer.

Do not panic, they had the thyroid removed and are doing quite well now.  But they may have more info re: Hashimoto's than most of us.  I will email this thread to them.  Hope everything turns out well for you also!
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: hrspwr on November 28, 2012, 06:28:02 AM
thanks, I have been reading about it seems the only treatment is to take dessicated thyroid. I`m hoping they can tell me whats wrong next monday. Its rough when you wake up and you are already exhausted, frickin eyeball twitchin and its really hard to think straight.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 04, 2012, 07:20:20 AM
The blood tests showed I need to take manganese, magnesium and folic acid. I don`t think they know whats wrong with me so they just keep adding supplements to the list. The doc wants a saliva test next. Maybe if they drag this stuff out long enough it will fix itself.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: Donny on December 04, 2012, 07:33:05 AM
The blood tests showed I need to take manganese, magnesium and folic acid. I don`t think they know whats wrong with me so they just keep adding supplements to the list. The doc wants a saliva test next. Maybe if they drag this stuff out long enough it will fix itself.
i hope you get better and get your peace...
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: Butterbean on December 04, 2012, 11:18:46 AM
The blood tests showed I need to take manganese, magnesium and folic acid. I don`t think they know whats wrong with me so they just keep adding supplements to the list. The doc wants a saliva test next. Maybe if they drag this stuff out long enough it will fix itself.

Did you get contacted yet by the person i was talking about?  I think they intended to but got side tracked.  What happened to your other account?
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 04, 2012, 12:39:27 PM
I never heard anything, I messed up my other account by changing the email address and then could not re-access it so instead of making a fuss I just started new.

 Thanks for the kind words Donny.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: Donny on December 04, 2012, 01:03:03 PM
Your welcome .. :)
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: Butterbean on December 06, 2012, 07:54:07 AM
I never heard anything, I messed up my other account by changing the email address and then could not re-access it so instead of making a fuss I just started new.

 Thanks for the kind words Donny.

I'll email the thread again. 

I take extra magnesium and it really seems to help w/leg cramps.  My w/o partner used to have pain in her legs almost every night (not like cramps I guess) and when she started taking mag, they went away.  Not sure if that relates to you at all..just saying that I think mag is a good sup...at least for those things anyway.

Get well :)
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 06, 2012, 08:23:26 AM
I started on a heavy course of supplements Monday and am already feeling better,

 Alpha lipoic acid
 B complex
 C 500mg
 D3 5000
 Digestive enzymes
 Fish Oil
 L- Glutamine
 Magnesium
 Mens Multi
 Probiotics

 waiting on the Manganese and Chelator to ship in today.

 I did not have much faith in the cellular level blood test but it has proved me wrong, the day after I started feeding my body what that test said I was low on I could feel a difference, pretty amazing.
 I`m hoping that after a while my thyroid values will come back to normal.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: Donny on December 06, 2012, 08:36:31 AM
I started on a heavy course of supplements Monday and am already feeling better,

 Alpha lipoic acid
 B complex
 C 500mg
 D3 5000
 Digestive enzymes
 Fish Oil
 L- Glutamine
 Magnesium
 Mens Multi
 Probiotics

 waiting on the Manganese and Chelator to ship in today.

 I did not have much faith in the cellular level blood test but it has proved me wrong, the day after I started feeding my body what that test said I was low on I could feel a difference, pretty amazing.
 I`m hoping that after a while my thyroid values will come back to normal.
quite a list.. are you still training ok or are you finding your energy levels low at times?
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 06, 2012, 08:42:26 AM
I haven`t done anything except walk a couple miles up the mountain with the dogs and work. I was thinking about going for a run and working on the heavy bag this afternoon, I could use it for my brain more than anything else.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: Donny on December 06, 2012, 08:59:44 AM
I haven`t done anything except walk a couple miles up the mountain with the dogs and work. I was thinking about going for a run and working on the heavy bag this afternoon, I could use it for my brain more than anything else.
well walking is ok..a good long walk will do more than you think. Remember when i was very ill with Colites ulserosa i was on medication and just put on weight and i felt like shit. I was running and i think i nearly had a heart attack.. anyway my Doc said to me and was angry .."are you crazy??" "you are very ill". well after that i thought OK fuck it i will walk. I walked every Day 1 hour and i really concentrated on my breathing and getting fresh air in my lungs. This made more difference to me than the medication. Walking is fine and get lots of fresh air. I was very ill but now a few years on i feel great and never take tablets anymore..infact my last check up was only.. small activity in my colon(30cm is ill) but i can live with it. I can´t eat some things but well that is just the way it is.. as they used to say "stiff upper lip" ;) I have lived with this illness over 10years.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 06, 2012, 09:39:00 AM
Thats a good story Donny. I do the walking thing pretty regular, it has been a big help fighting off depression for me.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: Donny on December 06, 2012, 09:45:21 AM
Thats a good story Donny. I do the walking thing pretty regular, it has been a big help fighting off depression for me.
one of the greatest Bodybuilders of all time walked..Steve Reeves. I think walking you can really relax and get some O2 in there.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 31, 2012, 02:11:20 PM
Thought I would go ahead and update this thread since it has been 4 weeks now.

 Since I have been taking the specified vitamin and mineral supplements something amazing for me has started to occur. My appetite has been really, really manageable. I mean to the point were food does not bother me and I am not constantly hungry. Before starting this my appetite was ravenous and I was constantly hungry.
 It makes sense to me now that my body was starved for some particular vitamin or nutrient and kept telling me to eat, it was a constant battle making dieting extremely tough and dieting made things worse.
 The only thing really keeping me from ballooning was that I like to stay active.
 I am completely content now on 1500 to 1800 calories as long as what I am eating is quality and timed correctly, the weight is not exactly coming off which is OK because it is now moving more where I want it.
 I got some good advice from Donny about quality training vs quantity and have been sticking to that and it seems to be paying off as well.
  But here is the main point I want to make, if you are struggling with diet there may be something more going on. I always thought it was me just acting like a fatass, but my body was physically craving food. I just did not know what it chemically needed. Once that part of the riddle was solved a lot of things seem to be falling into place.
 Probably be another couple months before the thyroid values are checked again but hopefully that will fall back into line as well.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: Donny on December 31, 2012, 03:49:22 PM
A very good post and good advice. Makes you think too. Great to hear you are better.
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 29, 2013, 08:43:47 AM
Updating this post.

 So it has been over a year since they found my thyroid values FUBAR. I had my blood tested in July and the TPA had gone down to the 900`s.
 The doc switched me from the topical test compound to low dose test injections 2x a week, for a while I was doing both { that was fun  ;D }  
 Anyway the latest bloodwork says that my test is at 935 and my TPA is 491, better than the 1100 where we started for sure but still needs to be below 59.

 I still can`t work out like I want but if I space it out, 1 day run - next day lift - rest. I seem to get by, I still get days where I know my body is wrecked so I am learning to give it rest and not push it.

 It is still nearly impossible to lose weight but some days I feel like my body is starting to recover - you know the feeling when the internal furnace is on.
 I have pretty much cut out the wheat products and only take in sugar a couple times a month at a party or something, no alcohol, and a diet coke on a rare occasion. My diet could be a bit cleaner but honestly it isn`t that bad. Lots of apples, bananas and some grapefruit.
 The way things are progressing it will probably take another 9 months to a year to be fully recovered from whatever went haywire.
 I am pretty happy that I have not had to go on some bizarre medicine and that my doc just didn`t just start throwing pills at me.
 
 
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: Montague on December 29, 2013, 02:16:34 PM
Good to hear, brother!
Title: Re: hashimotos disease
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 30, 2013, 10:03:55 AM
 Thanks man, this has been a real suck ass ordeal but maybe the light at the end of the tunnel isn`t a train after all.

 stay positive.   :D