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Godawful shite. Was it a competition to see how many cliches can be stuffed in two hours?
I hope Scott does not attempt a sequel to Blade Runner, the wanker.
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huge ad blitz and movie sux0r
I really hate that like 8 months out ads
I wanted my money back
fassbender good but rest garbage
plot so fulla holes like swiss cheese
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Godawful shite. Was it a competition to see how many cliches can be stuffed in two hours?
I hope Scott does not attempt a sequel to Blade Runner, the wanker.
Look to the possibly upcoming Elephantmen for a Blade Runnersque movie.
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Look to the possibly upcoming Elephantmen for a Blade Runnersque movie.
I can tell from the title it will be something original and out of left field. I just hope Ridley Scott keeps his paws off it, lest it be made "accessible".
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Prometheus was good. Many of the people who were disappointed were Alien fans looking for an Alien prequel. I would prefer Spaihts' script.
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I can tell from the title it will be something original and out of left field. I just hope Ridley Scott keeps his paws off it, lest it be made "accessible".
Elephantmen will be based on the comic/graphic novel of the same title. Based in 2259, where Human/Animal hybrids are trying to fit in human society. These human hybrids were created when Africa and China went to war and Europe was ravaged by a virus. These hybrids were created by genetic manipulation of Elephant, Rhino, Hippo, Giraffe, Croc, Warthog and Human DNA, implanted in kidnapped African women, and when the fetuses came to term, ripped out of the dying mothers.
They then were taught and trained to be warriors.
Now, 15,000 of them roam the earth... The most celebrated one, Obadiah Horn, who is half Rhino, half human, is engaged to a human, a beautiful African woman.
A movie about genetics, the future, "racism", procreation, sex, power, violence...all the key words.
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Godawful shite. Was it a competition to see how many cliches can be stuffed in two hours?
I hope Scott does not attempt a sequel to Blade Runner, the wanker.
Good rant. Now, please explain.
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Elephantmen will be based on the comic/graphic novel of the same title. Based in 2259, where Human/Animal hybrids are trying to fit in human society. These human hybrids were created when Africa and China went to war and Europe was ravaged by a virus. These hybrids were created by genetic manipulation of Elephant, Rhino, Hippo, Giraffe, Croc, Warthog and Human DNA, implanted in kidnapped African women, and when the fetuses came to term, ripped out of the dying mothers.
They then were taught and trained to be warriors.
Now, 15,000 of them roam the earth... The most celebrated one, Obadiah Horn, who is half Rhino, half human, is engaged to a human, a beautiful African woman.
A movie about genetics, the future, "racism", procreation, sex, power, violence...all the key words.
I am so tired of racism is scifi. Save that liberal arts philosoph major faggotry for chix flix or hippie flix.
scifi is for big questions and tek and adventure
no adding lasers to whiny art films
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Good rant. Now, please explain.
You got me started pal :)
Only one character in the movie- the android. The rest? Cardboard cut-outs. The ice-cold blond bitch boss, the cool black character (see: magical negro stereotype), the crazy and unorthodox tech guy (don't tell me you didn't know that ginger bastard would eventually turn into a monster from the first minute he popped into the screen). Not to mention... where were the protagonists?
A plot based on an Erich von Daeniken book. He's the guy who wrote a book in the 60s about ancient astronauts. It was very popular with the hippies. In fact, von Daeniken was in jail at the time (he's a known crook) and was trying to make a quick buck. He just made the whole thing up.
Tired old cliches: scared people trying to be cute to unknown and dangerous species who then immediately kill them in gruesome ways.
Plot holes: where the fuck was that octopus thing hiding all the time and how come noone noticed anything?
Plain ridiculous: the octopus thing turning into a giant octopus thing in the end, mwhahahahahhaha, it must have eaten all the food in the spaceship.
Plain stupid: the Vickers bitch running in length from a falling object, whereas she could have run sideways. Obviously they needed to kill her off.
Ending: My boyfriend is dead, my crew is dead, our spaceship is in pieces, but hey I'll know what I'll do next, I'll go the engineers' planet so they can use me as a lab rat (Sir Ridley: "Hey, we needed to set the stage for the sequel") LOL
I could go on man.
How the might have fallen.
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I am so tired of racism is scifi. Save that liberal arts philosoph major faggotry for chix flix or hippie flix.
scifi is for big questions and tek and adventure
no adding lasers to whiny art films
all you latched on was "racism"....
And neglected the whole DNA manipulation to create Elephantmen---the whole effing premise. Giant walking, talking Hippos, Elephants, Crocs, Giraffes, Warthogs, with humanoid bodies, just as smart as humans, performing human jobs. They were created to be sterile---no elephantwoman created. Said beings are not permitted to have children, nor marry human women. But, what is really human? What dictates being "human".
How does one deal with sentient beings that were created to destroy humans? There are far more questions and topics than racism...it makes you think.
The graphic novels are very Blade Runner-sque.
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You got me started pal :)
Only one character in the movie- the android. The rest? Cardboard cut-outs. The ice-cold blond bitch boss, the cool black character (see: magical negro stereotype), the crazy and unorthodox tech guy (don't tell me you didn't know that ginger bastard would eventually turn into a monster from the first minute he popped into the screen). Not to mention... where were the protagonists?
A plot based on an Erich von Daeniken book. He's the guy who wrote a book in the 60s about ancient astronauts. It was very popular with the hippies. In fact, von Daeniken was in jail at the time (he's a known crook) and was trying to make a quick buck. He just made the whole thing up.
Tired old cliches: scared people trying to be cute to unknown and dangerous species who then immediately kill them in gruesome ways.
Plot holes: where the fuck was that octopus thing hiding all the time and how come noone noticed anything?
Plain ridiculous: the octopus thing turning into a giant octopus thing in the end, mwhahahahahhaha, it must have eaten all the food in the spaceship.
Plain stupid: the Vickers bitch running in length from a falling object, whereas she could have run sideways. Obviously they needed to kill her off.
I could go on man.
How the might have fallen.
I liked the android, too, but he was Fassbender. And other than that, it's a nutty Erich von Daniken thingy or/an octopus trope you have a problem with? I see a theme. :D
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I liked the android, too, but he was Fassbender. And other than that, it's a nutty Erich von Daniken thingy or/an octopus trope you have a problem with? I see a theme. :D
I guess I have a problem with trailers firing me up and then the movie comes out and you realise the trailer was better ;D
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From what I've heard is the script was butchered, not by Scott, but from Damon Lindelof of "Lost" fame. I think the directors cut will fill in a lot of the missing holes from Lindelof's writing style.
I think when totally left alone Scott can still bang out a winner, but this film seemed to have a lot of politics floating around it.
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Giant octopus fetus grows into huge octo-monster without food...then gets a snack, then self-procreates and produces a The Alien...
Old ass frail man with tons of money wants to live forever, funds the whole thing, and then dies at the hands of a healthy 8-9 foot tall, bald, muscular dude, epic symbolism.
Android with a slight bent for creating chaos, must rely on someone that meant to hurt.
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Godawful shite. Was it a competition to see how many cliches can be stuffed in two hours?
I hope Scott does not attempt a sequel to Blade Runner, the wanker.
bump
fucking terrible
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Prometheus was good. Many of the people who were disappointed were Alien fans looking for an Alien prequel. I would prefer Spaihts' script.
I agree. Not a big Aliens fan however.
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Prometheus was good. Many of the people who were disappointed were Alien fans looking for an Alien prequel. I would prefer Spaihts' script.
I was disappointed for the same reason as OP -- it was one massive cliche.
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Saw it and was disappointed. I was concerned when I heard Damon lindelof was involved and all my fears proved true.
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Elephantmen will be based on the comic/graphic novel of the same title. Based in 2259, where Human/Animal hybrids are trying to fit in human society. These human hybrids were created when Africa and China went to war and Europe was ravaged by a virus. These hybrids were created by genetic manipulation of Elephant, Rhino, Hippo, Giraffe, Croc, Warthog and Human DNA, implanted in kidnapped African women, and when the fetuses came to term, ripped out of the dying mothers.
They then were taught and trained to be warriors.
Now, 15,000 of them roam the earth... The most celebrated one, Obadiah Horn, who is half Rhino, half human, is engaged to a human, a beautiful African woman.
A movie about genetics, the future, "racism", procreation, sex, power, violence...all the key words.
I am actually very intriguied. Finally something of an original idea ( from my point of view ).
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Old ass frail man with tons of money wants to live forever, funds the whole thing, and then dies at the hands of a healthy 8-9 foot tall, bald, muscular dude, epic symbolism.
Epic schmoe symbolism
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I thought it was good. I'm not a sci-fi fan in the slightest but don't understand all the negative reviews.
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I am actually very intriguied. Finally something of an original idea ( from my point of view ).
Written by an Englishman, in America...It takes an Englishman to come up with an original idea these days
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i thought it was good, yes there were some silly parts but i was intrigued mysterious "engineers."
can't wait for the sequel, i hope it directly follows noomi and fassbender into an alien world.
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Written by an Englishman, in America...It takes an Englishman to come up with an original idea these days
Have you watched Sunshine (http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0448134/)? The comparison with Prometheus is unavoidable and while Sunshine is far from a perfect movie it's funny how it comes out on top, it didn't have a sixth of Prometheus's budget and little marketing at all.
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i thought it was good
the characters were stereotypical
but the whole premise of the movie is that the android is capable of the humanity the main characters lack
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but the whole premise of the movie is that the android is capable of the humanity the main characters lack
and that there's always an alternative motive and Floyd.
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i thought it was good
the characters were stereotypical
but the whole premiise of the movie is that the android is capable of the humanity the main characters lack
really? That android was only capable of effing with things...and it still looked like he still didn't understand what it meant to be human, even in the end.
Most of what we saw from the characters, was the wide spectrum of humanity. Greed, love, lust, power, malevolence, compassion, etc.
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Creature were extremely bad - "alien" and racebugger looked horrendous.
The Navigator was very well made though the face was ratarded.
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I donno I think your crazy to be critical of the movie, sci fi these days has gone to shit.
My standards are so fucking low to what makes a good sci fi, that I'm pleased. It was super predictable and cliche, but I'm happy the cliche's were there. I got what I wanted it's the nerds version of the 80's action movies.
It's almost mildly ironic that in a day and age, when sci fi, is incredibly easy to make, and totally on par with how our lives are lived, they are never made.
Anyhow the last good era for sci fi was in the 90's.
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Prometheus was a great movie.
It finally explained the origins of the space jockey and the birth of the alien on how it was created..
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all you latched on was "racism"....
And neglected the whole DNA manipulation to create Elephantmen---the whole effing premise. Giant walking, talking Hippos, Elephants, Crocs, Giraffes, Warthogs, with humanoid bodies, just as smart as humans, performing human jobs. They were created to be sterile---no elephantwoman created. Said beings are not permitted to have children, nor marry human women. But, what is really human? What dictates being "human".
How does one deal with sentient beings that were created to destroy humans? There are far more questions and topics than racism...it makes you think.
The graphic novels are very Blade Runner-sque.
Meh I think sci fi needs to move away from monsters and cheap action sequences.
Just so great movies don't continually get hijacked by some jewy producer with ADHD.
Gattaca from 97 is a movie that all new sci fi's should take as a reference, covers all the bases, and is exceptionally good, and did it without cgi.
I think using the same concept you mention but have it only focusing on the neurology of the gmod'd would work.
It's be interesting if different hybrids had different forums of mental disorders.
I.E. a race of people with ocd, schizo, depression, mania, etc. It's very relevant to modern day society, when every crook and criminal has a disorder, and also ties into race but in a way that isn't so simplistic, as were all the same on the inside crap you get back in the day. It can also get into the deeper philosophical issue of freedom of choice and all that jazz.
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You got me started pal :)
Only one character in the movie- the android. The rest? Cardboard cut-outs. The ice-cold blond bitch boss, the cool black character (see: magical negro stereotype), the crazy and unorthodox tech guy (don't tell me you didn't know that ginger bastard would eventually turn into a monster from the first minute he popped into the screen). Not to mention... where were the protagonists?
A plot based on an Erich von Daeniken book. He's the guy who wrote a book in the 60s about ancient astronauts. It was very popular with the hippies. In fact, von Daeniken was in jail at the time (he's a known crook) and was trying to make a quick buck. He just made the whole thing up.
Tired old cliches: scared people trying to be cute to unknown and dangerous species who then immediately kill them in gruesome ways.
Plot holes: where the fuck was that octopus thing hiding all the time and how come noone noticed anything?
Plain ridiculous: the octopus thing turning into a giant octopus thing in the end, mwhahahahahhaha, it must have eaten all the food in the spaceship.
Plain stupid: the Vickers bitch running in length from a falling object, whereas she could have run sideways. Obviously they needed to kill her off.
Ending: My boyfriend is dead, my crew is dead, our spaceship is in pieces, but hey I'll know what I'll do next, I'll go the engineers' planet so they can use me as a lab rat (Sir Ridley: "Hey, we needed to set the stage for the sequel") LOL
I could go on man.
How the might have fallen.
glad u let us all know that. :)
For wut it's worth I loved Prometheus
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Meh I think sci fi needs to move away from monsters and cheap action sequences.
Just so great movies don't continually get hijacked by some jewy producer with ADHD.
Gattaca from 97 is a movie that all new sci fi's should take as a reference, covers all the bases, and is exceptionally good, and did it without cgi.
I think using the same concept you mention but have it only focusing on the neurology of the gmod'd would work.
It's be interesting if different hybrids had different forums of mental disorders.
I.E. a race of people with ocd, schizo, depression, mania, etc. It's very relevant to modern day society, when every crook and criminal has a disorder, and also ties into race but in a way that isn't so simplistic, as were all the same on the inside crap you get back in the day. It can also get into the deeper philosophical issue of freedom of choice and all that jazz.
one of my all time top ten
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and that there's always an alternative motive and Floyd.
Haha
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Meh I think sci fi needs to move away from monsters and cheap action sequences.
Just so great movies don't continually get hijacked by some jewy producer with ADHD.
Gattaca from 97 is a movie that all new sci fi's should take as a reference, covers all the bases, and is exceptionally good, and did it without cgi.
I think using the same concept you mention but have it only focusing on the neurology of the gmod'd would work.
It's be interesting if different hybrids had different forums of mental disorders.
I.E. a race of people with ocd, schizo, depression, mania, etc. It's very relevant to modern day society, when every crook and criminal has a disorder, and also ties into race but in a way that isn't so simplistic, as were all the same on the inside crap you get back in the day. It can also get into the deeper philosophical issue of freedom of choice and all that jazz.
My g/f turned me on to Gattaca , I've always heard about but never watched it , much better than what I thought it would be.
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That explains it all.
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Creature were extremely bad - "alien" and racebugger looked horrendous.
The Navigator was very well made though the face was ratarded.
racebugger?
You mean mudshark, someone buggin' the darker races?
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That explains it all.
ahahahahahahahahaha EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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oh dear I haven't laughed this hard in ages
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That explains it all.
Bullseye!
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My g/f turned me on to Gattaca , I've always heard about but never watched it , much better than what I thought it would be.
Yeah I don't understand why it isn't talked about more often, it's like there's some great conspiracy or some shit.
I mean it has 3 big actors and really good everything. I guess it's just proves there is a intellectual gap in society.
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Watched latest bourne movie yesterday. Despite some good acting it was extremly Meh...
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That explains it all.
they have some hilarious clips.
The part when they randomly decides its a smart move to remove their helmets and start breathing whatever the air that's on a Unknown planet contains is a smart idea lol.
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Yeah I don't understand why it isn't talked about more often, it's like there's some great conspiracy or some shit.
I mean it has 3 big actors and really good everything. I guess it's just proves there is a intellectual gap in society.
Jewd Law!
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racebugger?
You mean mudshark, someone buggin' the darker races?
Spot on - I got the David Duke re-cut on White Ray where it's clear that the monsters are biased towards "dark" matter.
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I watched the film two days ago. I was in a nitpicky mood so I've got a triplet of qualms to add to the pile:
1. The crew automatically assume the genetic information of the engineer sample is encoded in DNA. But they would almost certainly not assume such a thing, since there are a variety of molecule types that can function as a storage medium for such information. They'd need to decipher what molecule was at work before making any declarations about DNA matches.
2. What the hell does a "DNA match" mean? It can't be that the sample's sequence is the same or else we'd be exactly like the engineers (equivalent to them, in fact).
3. There isn't the slightest attempt to reconcile the engineers' tinkering with the current narrative of evolution via natural selection, which traces the genetic split from ancestor lineages to our own. Is all of Darwinism false, then? Is the engineer DNA sequence miraculously equivalent to a half-evolved ape sequence?
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Loved Event Horizon
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worst movie ever, beyond stupid.
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I could not agree more.
I sleep a lot with Blade Runner on. Listen to a lot of music that clearly has its roots in Vangelis (FSOL etc). Have the expensive 5 disc version of the movie. I consider the moment when Harrison shoots Zhora dead to be my joint top favourite moment in cinematic history (joint top with Begbie's legendary twisted version of events story / glassing in Trainspotting).
And I spent the entire watching of Prometheus scarcely believe how poor the script was. It's an insult to your intelligence.
I blame Ridley.