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The following is the last few days leading up to the Mr Olympia 2012. This is a direct copy and paste.
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BFG, can you describe the final week of prep before a show and the drug, food and water regime they follow right up to getting on stage?
DEPLETE: 100g carbs, 1 red meat meal, high rep upper body, 30
mins cardio, high sodium, 3 gallons water, 200mg tren ace, 200mg masteron, 40mg halotestin, 1cc winstrol suspension 3x per day, 40mg nolvadex, 1mg arimadex every day, 2.5mg letrozole everyday, 120mcg clenbuterol, 75mcg t3, 37.5mg adipex
DEPLETE: 100g carbs, 1 red meat meal, high rep upper body, 30
mins cardio, high sodium, 3 gallons water, 200mg tren ace, 200mg masteron, 40mg halotestin, 1cc winstrol suspension 3x per day, 40mg nolvadex, 1mg arimadex every day, 2.5mg letrozole everyday,120mcg clenbuterol, 75mcg t3, 37.5mg adipex
DEPLETE: 100g carbs, 1 red meat meal, high rep upper body, 30
mins, cardio, high sodium, 3 gallons water, 200mg tren ace, 200mg masteron, 40mg halotestin, 1cc winstrol suspension 3x per day, 40mg nolvadex, 1mg arimadex every day, 2.5mg letrozole everyday, 120mcg clenbuterol, 75mcg t3, 37.5mg adipex
LOAD: 700g carbs, low volume workout, no cardio, moderate
sodium, 1 gallon water, 13iu insulin with each meal, 200mg tren ace, 200mg masteron, 40mg halotestin, 1cc winstrol suspension 3x per day, 150mg anadrol 40mg nolvadex, 120mcg clenbuterol, 75mcg t3, 1mg arimadex every day, 2.5mg letrozole everyday, 40mg IV Lasix every 8 hours, 2 dyazide tabs, 37.5mg adipex
LOAD: 600g carbs, low volume workout, no cardio, low sodium,
1/2 gallon water, 12iu insulin with each meal, 200mg tren ace, 200mg masteron, 40mg halotestin, 1cc winstrol suspension 3x per day, 150mg anadrol, 40mg nolvadex, 120mcg clenbuterol, 75mcg t3, 1mg arimadex every day, 2.5mg letrozole everyday, 40mg IV Lasix every 8 hours, 2 dyazide tabs, 37.5mg adipex
LOAD: 400g carbs, low volume workout, no cardio, no direct
sodium, 8oz water per meal, 9iu insulin with each meal, 200mg tren ace, 200mg masteron, 40mg halotestin, 1cc winstrol suspension 3x per day, 150mg anadrol, 120mcg clenbuterol, 75mcg t3, 40mg nolvadex, 1mg arimadex every day, 2.5mg letrozole everyday, 40mg IV Lasix every 8 hours, 2 dyazide tabs, 37.5mg adipex,
LOAD: 300g carbs, low volume workout, no cardio, no direct
sodium, 4-6oz water per meal, 6iu insulin with each meal, 200mg tren ace, 200mg masteron, 40mg halotestin, 1cc winstrol suspension 3x per day, 120mcg clenbuterol, 75mcg t3, 40mg nolvadex, 1mg arimadex every day, 2.5mg letrozole everyday, 40mg IV Lasix every 8 hours, 2 dyazide tabs, 37.5mg adipex, 1000mL dextran IV
PREJUDGING: 4-5 whole eggs, 125-150 carbs upon waking, salty
meal with 100g carbs 45-60 mins before prejudging, no water, 40mg IV Lasix, 2 dyazide tabs, 120mcg clenbuterol, 75mcg t3, 150mg anadrol, 40mg nolvadex, 1mg arimadex, 2.5mg letrozole, 37.5mg adipex, 500ml dextran IV
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Also to note:
There is no growth hormone listed. this does not mean this individual did not use GH, it simply means - like most - he dropped GH out a week/few days before the contest.
There was no insulin used listed when carbing up the day of pre-judging but i would bet he used slin that day as well.
The morning of prejudging, most areas of the body had "finishing touches" applied in the form of injectable dbol/drol/TNE mixed with generic sterile carrier oil in the delts, bis, calves, etc.
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Nolvadex is SERM, it has nothing to do with water retention... Useless and pointless.
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I've heard shit about guys drinking a bottle of red wine backstage. Apparently it makes you more vascular. Any truth to this?
This sounds like Kai Green. Apparently he loves to load up on adrol before a show
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Nolvadex is SERM, it has nothing to do with water retention... Useless and pointless.
Did I say that it did?
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I've heard shit about guys drinking a bottle of red wine backstage. Apparently it makes you more vascular. Any truth to this?
This sounds like Kai Green. Apparently he loves to load up on adrol before a show
Everyone loads up on anadrol before a show.
This was a top 10 finisher. Hope this answers your question more in depth.
Regarding the red wine, a glass the night before or a bit before going on stage can be helpful.
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Everyone loads up on anadrol before a show.
This was a top 10 finisher. Hope this answers your question more in depth.
Regarding the red wine, a glass the night before or a bit before going on stage can be helpful.
I don't see test listed. At which point is it cut out?
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I don't see test listed. At which point is it cut out?
About 10-14 days out.
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Everyone loads up on anadrol before a show.
This was a top 10 finisher. Hope this answers your question more in depth.
Regarding the red wine, a glass the night before or a bit before going on stage can be helpful.
Doesnt Anadrol cause A lot of water retention? Especially with carbs?
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Doesnt Anadrol cause A lot of water retention? Especially with carbs?
In conjunction with IV lasix, dyazide, letrozole, arimadex and sodium restriction...no.
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wow, badass info being shown here
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wow, badass info being shown here
Yeah. You look at it go, wow people really do that shit. Give me some test and I'm a happy camper
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This is absolute horseshit.
Letrozole can alone drop estrogen levels down to 0. Arimidex is not needed.
Not even mentioning nolvadex, what is it even doing here? There's no use.
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Great thread
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i already have 20lbs more muscle mass on my frame just by reading that :o thank you so much BFG !! this information your bringing to the table is groundbreaking :o
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This is absolute horseshit.
Letrozole can alone drop estrogen levels down to 0. Arimidex is not needed.
Not even mentioning nolvadex, what is it even doing here? There's no use.
What is your board name again?
THE BEEF
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This is absolute horseshit.
Letrozole can alone drop estrogen levels down to 0. Arimidex is not needed.
Not even mentioning nolvadex, what is it even doing here? There's no use.
There is no need to inject grams of veterinary drugs and intravenous diuretics...but its done.
I understand your point about the ancillaries, though. You need to understand a few things:
1) Letrozole does not work from day 1. It takes time to actually be effective so most guys run arimadex the whole way through the last 8 weeks of prep waiting for the letrozole's full power to "kick in."
2) Most bodybuilders take every possible drug they can to "cover all their bases." Is there really a need to take well over a gram of masteron and 300mg everyday of winstrol suspension? Probably not, but everyone is scared that their competitors are doing/taking more.
3) Many guys use nolvadex when they are deep in heavy blasts of gear. Everyone gets gyno at some point, it can and often does come back after surgery. Its not healthy, but many just prefer to take 20-40mg of nolvadex everyday "just in case."
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I LOVE BFG being here. I just do. TONS of great info here.
Thank you, BFG, for taking the time to share with us. :)
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BFG not bashing and i'm thankful if it's true but if you could answer these it would be great:
- Where did you get this info
- How real is it
- Why should we believe it
- Aren't you afraid that someone will try this or any protocol you spit out and end up dead?
Tkx
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Cheers for the info BFG, always love your posts.
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I've heard shit about guys drinking a bottle of red wine backstage. Apparently it makes you more vascular.
Red wine helps restore red blood cells, IINM, so it might help.
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There is no need to inject grams of veterinary drugs and intravenous diuretics...but its done.
I understand your point about the ancillaries, though. You need to understand a few things:
1) Letrozole does not work from day 1. It takes time to actually be effective so most guys run arimadex the whole way through the last 8 weeks of prep waiting for the letrozole's full power to "kick in."
2) Most bodybuilders take every possible drug they can to "cover all their bases." Is there really a need to take well over a gram of masteron and 300mg everyday of winstrol suspension? Probably not, but everyone is scared that their competitors are doing/taking more.
3) Many guys use nolvadex when they are deep in heavy blasts of gear. Everyone gets gyno at some point, it can and often does come back after surgery. Its not healthy, but many just prefer to take 20-40mg of nolvadex everyday "just in case."
So true. Bodybuilders have OCD. Do you really think they'll rely on one antiestrogen alone? Or a single androgenic steroid or diuretic? Hell no!
Great prep! I've seen stuff like this before for people that I know who compete, but the doses are a bit lower and they look no where near the level of IFBB pros. The pros have a huge immunity towards the negative health effects. Some people get a sort of androgen sickness and extreme metabolic overload with drug regimens like this. But IFBB pros just keep pinning away with what seems to be no health complications, although I'm sure it catches up with them at some point.
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Also to note:
There is no growth hormone listed. this does not mean this individual did not use GH, it simply means - like most - he dropped GH out a week/few days before the contest.
There was no insulin used listed when carbing up the day of pre-judging but i would bet he used slin that day as well.
The morning of prejudging, most areas of the body had "finishing touches" applied in the form of injectable dbol/drol/TNE mixed with generic sterile carrier oil in the delts, bis, calves, etc.
who the fuck site injects oil the morning of the show?... unles they want nice smooth and blurry delts, bi's...
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Doesnt Anadrol cause A lot of water retention? Especially with carbs?
usaully won't hold water sub-q.. it'll give a nice fullness 'inside' the muscle, though.
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wow, badass info being shown here
eh, not really. rookie.
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This is absolute horseshit.
Letrozole can alone drop estrogen levels down to 0. Arimidex is not needed.
Not even mentioning nolvadex, what is it even doing here? There's no use.
i agree with the horseshit comment...
but i'll take adex over femera anyday... actually, i use aromasin. letro KILLS my sex drive, even at 3500 test/wk.
i like nolva for the last week though. long term it ruins the effectiveness of the aas.
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EH, I ban you. Get thee hence to a 'logic' timeout.
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Where are the Plasma Expanders listed here? Did I miss them?
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Where are the Plasma Expanders listed here? Did I miss them?
The 1000ml of dextran IV he listed the day before the show and the 500ml of dextran the day of would be your plasma volume expander
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I've heard shit about guys drinking a bottle of red wine backstage. Apparently it makes you more vascular. Any truth to this?
This sounds like Kai Green. Apparently he loves to load up on adrol before a show
The red wine is common even at the local levels. Backstage after the show you see dozens of bottles everywhere, especially the girls,lol.
The alcohol in the wine will act as a diuretic and the wine itself will make you hot, hence your vascularity may come out a bit more.
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yes, alcohol will def bring out the veins.
even arnold used to do this.
fuck, blod plasma expanders, this is crazy things
I have heard this and know people who do this but what I can't get over is lasix every 8 hours from 4 days out, my lord that is friggen insane beyond belief, I certainly don't doubt it cause it is the Olympia and bodybuilders are crazy mofos but that is nuts :o :o :o :o
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i wonder how its even possible, when one is very lean, the body is pissing the whole time, already, esp since one has to drink water to mask the hunger, or it will drive one insane.
now, ive done lasix before, and it leads to severe cramping very quickly, i dont know how the guys do it.
id be afraid to lay to sleep with all that stuff in the bloodstream.so many things that can go deadly wrong very fast, esp with insulin and lasix involved.
The lasix is what is mind boggling, everything else is doable and bearable (certainly not by 99% of people)
There is a catch here though and I just noticed this and now it makes a little more sense; notice how he loads up his sodium prior to his carb days? that is how they are doing lots of diuretics.
See the sodium allows you to take more diuretic without any severe side effects and by taking in sodium you ensure your body doesn't produce any hormones at the last minute to make you hold water (such as aldosterone) wow, this is brilliant actually.
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The lasix is what is mind boggling, everything else is doable and bearable (certainly not by 99% of people)
There is a catch here though and I just noticed this and now it makes a little more sense; notice how he loads up his sodium prior to his carb days? that is how they are doing lots of diuretics.
See the sodium allows you to take more diuretic without any severe side effects and by taking in sodium you ensure your body doesn't produce any hormones at the last minute to make you hold water (such as aldosterone) wow, this is brilliant actually.
You can just as well take spironolactone which blocks aldosterone by being competetive antagonist (just like SERM for estrogen).
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So which guru's stacks is BFG copy and pasting? Assuming they are real.
Every stack BFG has posted has been written by the same guy.
Lots of guys here should recognize the style. Who is it?
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So which guru's stacks is BFG copy and pasting? Assuming they are real.
Every stack BFG has posted has been written by the same guy.
Lots of guys here should recognize the style. Who is it?
My guess is Rambod because I've read more than once about him advising his guys to take nolvadex which makes 0 sense.
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If you guys believe this I'm sad for you......you must have no hope.
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My guess is Rambod because I've read more than once about him advising his guys to take nolvadex which makes 0 sense.
I don't know shit about Rambod but somehow I doubt it's from him. But I don't know. Maybe someone here with a good rep has seen Rambod's cycles and can confirm or deny.
As far as Nolva, many feel it imparts positive cosmetic effects during prep. If it does, the
mechanism may not be the what guru thinks it is. A lot of stuff bodybuilders do does not work, or
"works" for unknown reasons. As far as using it for gyno, on paper it can make sense to stack it with an AI because it lowers IGF-1, among other reasons. You said Letro gives you zero estrogen, but from what I remember it's not quite that effective. AI's haven't made SERM's completely obsolete in cancer treatment either. Who knows, Nolva might make you leaner by actually acting as an estrogen agonist in sub-q fat!
I remember when Chad said Ronnie had been doing Nolva and when he dropped it due to low IGF-1 levels he exploded in size. OTOH a TOP guru told a friend of mine that the idea that Nolva blocks the effects of GH is a bunch of bullshit.
Being a guru means you are one fucked up and twisted individual because no one can predict what this type of polypharma use will do, especially the diuretic stuff. I wonder how much they are sweating and praying after telling a guy to IV Lasix along with all the other shit they prescribe.
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I know a guy here in Canada at nationals that IV'ed his lasix, that just sounds way to crazy to me, but people are starting to IV everything, especially gh.