Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums
Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: The True Adonis on December 05, 2012, 05:22:08 PM
-
Republicans control the Governor, both houses of the legislature. This is the type of trash you will get.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/05/students-who-go-after-teachers-online-could-face-jail-under-new-north-carolina/
Jail time could await North Carolina students who go after teachers online
By Perry Chiaramonte, Joshua Rhett Miller
Published December 05, 2012
FoxNews.com
Even telling the truth about a teacher online could land North Carolina students in jail. (AP)
North Carolina students who go after their teachers online could face jail time -- and truth won't even be a defense, under a new law that critics say infringes on free speech rights.
The law, called the School Violence Prevention Act, is aimed at students who torment their teachers by creating fake online profiles, posting personal information or images, signing them up to pornographic sites or make any statement, "whether true or false" that's intended to "immediately provoke" anyone to "stalk or harass a school employee."
"It became apparent that we had to get some kind of protection," said Judy Kidd, of the Classroom Teachers Association of North Carolina, which sought the legislation.
But critics of the law, which took effect Dec. 1 and makes such actions a Class 2 misdemeanor equal to simple assault or resisting arrest, say it is vague, overly harsh and unconstitutional. The ACLU of North Carolina said “criminalizing student speech is a slippery slope and establishes a bad precedent.”
“This law is so vague that it could easily result in a student being arrested simply for posting something on the Internet that a school official finds offensive,” ACLU-NC Policy Director Sarah Preston said.
Preston said one of the more troubling aspects of the law is that a student could go to jail for up to 60 days for posting something truthful on the Internet.
“Young people should not be taught that they will be punished for telling the truth, speaking freely, or questioning authority – yet that is exactly what could happen under this law.
'Basically the state is making it illegal to make a truthful statement.'
- Hans Von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow, the Heritage Foundation
Hans Von Spakovsky, a senior legal fellow with the Heritage Foundation, agreed that the state is on shaky ground when it claims the right to punish a citizen who makes a true statement about a teacher, given that truth is a traditional defense against slander and defamation.
“Basically the state is making it illegal to make a truthful statement, and that is such a violation of the First Amendment,” Von Spakovsky said. “This will have a chilling effect.”
Preston cited several scenarios where a student could seemingly run afoul of the law by engaging in relatively innocuous behavior. For instance, a student might post on social media websites an objection to a decision by school administrators, claim on an online bulletin board that they are “tired” of a particular teacher or even post a complaint about an offensive comment made by an instructor. And what might happen to a student who accurately exposes a teacher online for having an inappropriate relationship with an underage student? Preston wondered.
“We think that the punishment is disproportionate to the action,” Preston said. “If it’s OK for the government to criminalize a student’s speech, then what’s to stop them from criminalizing what someone might say about a government official?”
Neal McCluskey, an educational analyst with The Cato Institute, said the problem North Carolina is seeking to address is real, but that the remedy may be even worse.
“This isn’t clear cut," McCluskey said. "There are arguments for both sides. The schools have to be able to keep order, but it’s extremely troubling that North Carolina would enact a law like this. This is dangerous because it criminalizes free speech.”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/05/students-who-go-after-teachers-online-could-face-jail-under-new-north-carolina/#ixzz2EAAzU6GM
-
Ok Benny.
-
That's defamation and its punished by law. Wether it's on the internet or "in real life" it's still defamation. True anus getting dumber by the day it seems.
-
Ok Benny.
I take it you support such bullshit.
-
That's defamation and its punished by law. Wether it's on the internet or "in real life" it's still defamation. True anus getting dumber by the day it seems.
Wrong.
-
I take it you support such bullshit.
I don't. That is bullshit. Absolute bullshit. Its one thing for an employer to fire you for talking shit on a social medium, it's quite another to jail people for expressing their opinions.
Somewhere, the founding fathers are rolling over in their graves.
-
That's defamation and its punished by law. Wether it's on the internet or "in real life" it's still defamation. True anus getting dumber by the day it seems.
(or make any statement, "whether true or false" that's intended to "immediately provoke" anyone to "stalk or harass a school employee.")
-
I don't. That is bullshit. Absolute bullshit. Its one thing for an employer to fire you for talking shit on a social medium, it's quiet to jail people for expressing their opinions.
Somewhere, the founding fathers are rolling over in their graves.
Exactly. The law states that even if the information they provide and use is true, they are guilty.
-
SCOTUS will toss that, if the brief description of the law TA posted is correct. Definitely both overly broad and vague, and it doesn't come close to meeting the standards for allowable "prior restraint" on speech.
-
SCOTUS will toss that, if the brief description of the law TA posted is correct. Definitely both overly broad and vague, and it doesn't come close to meeting the standards for allowable "prior restraint" on speech.
(2) Make any statement, whether true or false, intending to immediately
provoke, and that is likely to provoke, any third party to stalk or harass a
school employee.
(3) Copy and disseminate, or cause to be made, an unauthorized copy of any
data pertaining to a school employee for the purpose of intimidating or
tormenting that school employee (in any form, including, but not limited to,
any printed or electronic form of computer data, computer programs, or
computer software residing in, communicated by, or produced by a computer
or computer network).
(4) Sign up a school employee for a pornographic Internet site with the intent to
intimidate or torment the employee.
(5) Without authorization of the school employee, sign up a school employee for
electronic mailing lists or to receive junk electronic messages and instant
messages, with the intent to intimidate or torment the school employee.
Senate Bill 707 Session Law 2012-149 Page 3
(c) Any student who violates this section is guilty of cyber-bullying a school employee, which offense is punishable as a Class 2 misdemeanor.
http://www.digtriad.com/assetpool/documents/121128125335_2012%20School%20Violence%20New%20Law.pdf
-
solution: end government paid school and replace it with nothing.
Then private school can boot the student.
In USA you are free to be as cool and as poor as you wana be!
-
solution: end government paid school and replace it with nothing.
Then private school can boot the student.
In USA you are free to be as cool and as poor as you wana be!
Is this your explanation for being poor- "I`m exercising my freedom" ?
-
I'm sure the teachers union (Democrats) back this.
Sorry TA.
-
I'm sure the teachers union (Democrats) back this.
Sorry TA.
I don`t support them, and neither does Obama.
-
we had a "zero tolerance" policy at my highschool it really sucked, all the black kids could get away with shit while the white ones were heavily punished for nothing
-
Is this your explanation for being poor- "I`m exercising my freedom" ?
What do you mean? I am doing quite well... I live 200 yards from sand in southern california's 1st or second spring break area....
6 fig net worth etc...
Why get outa bed if you dont get more than next guy? is question you should be answering
-
i think school is good at a young age till you learn how to read, you should only be required from theron to go to school 1 straight week a month till senior year thats fair and balanced, not forcing shit on a kid all day inside , sittting down like prisoners
-
i think school is good at a young age till you learn how to read, you should only be required from theron to go to school 1 straight week a month till senior year thats fair and balanced, not forcing shit on a kid all day inside , sittting down like prisoners
I think even better is pay kids to get A on whatever subject, and pay comes from corp whos hiring.
End rest of governmetn payments to govenment schools which overall do more damage than good.
You then have no morons like rachel madcow runnign around with basket weaving degree thinking they are smart or porductive.
reality hit people like wall
for a given job simple test: would it exist without taxpayer being forced to fund it
if techer thinks they are value, then they can sell thier teaching to thier peers
-
I think even better is pay kids to get A on whatever subject, and pay comes from corp whos hiring.
End rest of governmetn payments to govenment schools which overall do more damage than good.
You then have no morons like rachel madcow runnign around with basket weaving degree thinking they are smart or porductive.
reality hit people like wall
for a given job simple test: would it exist without taxpayer being forced to fund it
if techer thinks they are value, then they can sell thier teaching to thier peers
that would be the obvious best choice, let the kids do there own learning aswell from the texts, they dont need school buildings either.
but america isnt in the buisness of making kids smarter. they like to put kids through hell.
Its easy to forget my school kid days but damn when i looked back that was the worst days of my life. I consider myself smart , and in that type of social set up is the worst. But for kids with trailer park parents it was a free for all for them in school, best times of there lives
-
Here's a very important question, does this new "law" apply to students who are 18? I'm betting no.
-
We don't need no education.
-
Here's a very important question, does this new "law" apply to students who are 18? I'm betting no.
It certainly does. There is no age stipulation in the law- I posted the entire thing. Furthermore, in NC, juvenile court ends at age 15 and 16 is the age where one will face regular court. They wouldn`t be charging 15 year olds with misdemeanors as this is directed towards 16 and older. College Students also apply.
-
that would be the obvious best choice, let the kids do there own learning aswell from the texts, they dont need school buildings either.
but america isnt in the buisness of making kids smarter. they like to put kids through hell.
Its easy to forget my school kid days but damn when i looked back that was the worst days of my life. I consider myself smart , and in that type of social set up is the worst. But for kids with trailer park parents it was a free for all for them in school, best times of there lives
One idea would be to let kids choose the classes they want to take.
Another is not pass class until you get 100% of the final, up to kid how long she wants to take.
-
Dumb
-
It certainly does. There is no age stipulation in the law- I posted the entire thing. Furthermore, in NC, juvenile court ends at age 15 and 16 is the age where one will face regular court. They wouldn`t be charging 15 year olds with misdemeanors as this is directed towards 16 and older. College Students also apply.
Wouldn't the harassment laws already cover this? What is the problem the law is trying to fix? Student stalking and posting pics of teachers? hmmm
I am for freedom of speech. I am not sure how harassment is handled now legally.
-
Wouldn't the harassment laws already cover this? What is the problem the law is trying to fix? Student stalking and posting pics of teachers? hmmm
I am for freedom of speech. I am not sure how harassment is handled now legally.
Republicans LOVE extra laws and less freedom. Its a constant theme with them. They couldn`t care less about the Constitution or Freedom of Speech.
-
Republicans LOVE extra laws and less freedom. Its a constant theme with them. They couldn`t care less about the Constitution or Freedom of Speech.
HAHA! You're just trolling now.
-
HAHA! You're just trolling now.
Not at all. They would love to outlaw video games, pornography, movies, television, the internet etc... Have you forgotten their crappy history and all their fights for "moral justice" that have been nothing but a waste?
-
Republicans LOVE extra laws and less freedom. Its a constant theme with them. They couldn`t care less about the Constitution or Freedom of Speech.
so you are for less taxes and fewer laws and restricting regulations? sounds like you are a secret republican!!
Aren't the republicans the ones screaming the federal government has limited set of enumerated powers, and the rest of the pwoer goes to the states, which the courts and obama are trampelling all over????
republicans champion the constitution
democrats trample it
at least as far as I see
maybe you live in a parallel universe
-
Not at all. They would love to outlaw video games, pornography, movies, television, the internet etc... Have you forgotten their crappy history and all their fights for "moral justice" that have been nothing but a waste?
Weren't Al and Tipper Gore part of that? Aren't they Dems?
-
Weren't Al and Tipper Gore part of that? Aren't they Dems?
30 years ago... Yes.
Ancient History.
-
so you are for less taxes and fewer laws and restricting regulations? sounds like you are a secret republican!!
Aren't the republicans the ones screaming the federal government has limited set of enumerated powers, and the rest of the pwoer goes to the states, which the courts and obama are trampelling all over????
republicans champion the constitution
democrats trample it
at least as far as I see
maybe you live in a parallel universe
I am for a Socialist National Sales Tax and ZERO Income Tax. No tax on necessities-food, medicine, etc... No tax on used goods-this alone transforms us into a savings society and not a throw away society. The National Sales Tax can be adjusted accordingly.
I am 100 percent for personal freedoms. Complete legalization of Prostitution, all drugs and getting rid of nonsensical laws like seat-belt tickets, public nudity tickets and other ridiculous waste laws.
I support regulations that enable a fair playing field.
The STATES have garbage laws as in the case here. I support a strong Federal Government in order to get rid of pointless laws like the one I posted here.
-
Not at all. They would love to outlaw video games, pornography, movies, television, the internet etc... Have you forgotten their crappy history and all their fights for "moral justice" that have been nothing but a waste?
this just in:
republicans like TV, esp 24, game thrones, NBA, NFL, american gladiators, WWF, MMA, and anything with big tits
republican also liek video games: esp ones with GUNS, aliens, swords, monsters, cars, and space ships n shit
republicans also love the net: porn rocks
republican do not want to outlaw sex
stop getting amped up on reddit left wing wakko shit and getting high and then psoting to getbig
-
this just in:
republicans like TV, esp 24, game thrones, NBA, NFL, american gladiators, WWF, MMA, and anything with big tits
republican also liek video games: esp ones with GUNS, aliens, swords, monsters, cars, and space ships n shit
republicans also love the net: porn rocks
republican do not want to outlaw sex
stop getting amped up on reddit left wing wakko shit and getting high and then psoting to getbig
Republicans may, but the right wing christian base of the party does not like any of that shit.
-
Weren't Al and Tipper Gore part of that? Aren't they Dems?
PMRC also had broad based Republican support, particularly from Jesse Helms. Tipper Gore is a piece of shit and will always be that. Notice that Al gave her the boot a long time ago and instead likes happy endings at the massage parlor.
For the most part, it has been a Right Wing effort to regulate the entertainment industry and that still holds true to this day.
Larry Flynt can tell you all about it.
-
-
Republicans may, but the right wing christian base of the party does not like any of that shit.
The left wing liberal base want to kill babies and save killers and rapists on death row ::)
-
The left wing liberal base want to kill babies and save killers and rapists on death row ::)
A Fetus is not a baby and they should be destroyed if they are unwanted. I don`t see anyone scrambling to save anyone on death row lately.
-
The left wing liberal base want to kill babies and save killers and rapists on death row ::)
The christian right wing wants to send people to war and get them killed across the ocean.
::)
-
The christian right wing wants to send people to war and get them killed across the ocean.
::)
The Presidents a right wing Christian ???
-
-
Republicans may, but the right wing christian base of the party does not like any of that shit.
there is no bible base
bible types are small part of republican party
-
The Presidents a right wing Christian ???
Haha... No... He's a Christian... He's not a loony Neo-Con right wing Christian... There is a difference.
Hell, he may not even be a Christian... Pandering is pandering.
What does his religion have to do with any of this?
-
carlin sucked
another guy who bitches but has 0 solutions, just say hey world sucks everyone sucks
-
The Presidents a right wing Christian ???
He is a closeted atheist, especially when you read accounts from people who were close to him early on. His grandparents weren`t religious, his mother was an atheist, his father was also an atheist.
I am sure the apple did not fall far from the tree in this respect. Obama is an intelligent man. One day we won`t have to pretend. I am confident we will see it in our lifetimes.
-
Can we just agree that the republicans and democrats are both nanny state statists and that the only alternative "libertarianism" is filled with cranks and drug addicted loons?
-
What does his religion have to do with any of this?
You said right wing Christians want to send people off to war.
Hasn't our President done that very thing?
-
Can we just agree that the republicans and democrats are both nanny state statists and that the only alternative "libertarianism" is filled with cranks and drug addicted loons?
Indeed.
Now for a break and a listen.
Everyone will enjoy this greatly.
-
You said right wing Christians want to send people off to war.
Hasn't our President done that very thing?
No... He actually hasn't... He has launched numerous drone strikes saving many of our troops lives in the process.
So no.
That would be a false statement.
-
You can take the so-cons out of the Republican party and you get a TINY minority party. You can take the welfare state junkies, green fascists out of the Democrat party and you AGAIN get a minority party.
The Math is pretty brutal, there is no anti statist, pro freedom, socially liberal, fiscally responsible, isolationist, technology driven majority.
-
No... He actually hasn't... He has launched numerous drone strikes saving many of our troops lives in the process.
So no.
That would be a false statement.
All those troops in Afghanistan must be UN Peacekeepers then. I stand corrected.
-
Probably one of the best songs ever made.
-
All those troops in Afghanistan must be UN Peacekeepers then. I stand corrected.
Who started that War again?
Yes... It was the Right Wing Christian Republican President.
-
Who started that War again?
Yes... It was the Right Wing Christian Republican President.
Really? I thought it was the terrorists. That's what the Dems (including the current Pres kept saying) George W. took his eye off the ball and invaded Iraq instead of handling business in Afghanistan. That is why the current Pres did the troop surge.
-
Really? I thought it was the terrorists. That's what the Dems (including the current Pres kept saying) George W. took his eye off the ball and invaded Iraq instead of handling business in Afghanistan. That is why the current Pres did the troop surge.
Haha... Ok dude.
I get that you want to be antagonistic, but there are a lot of factors that go into the fact we are in Afghanistan, but the truth remains that Obama has killed more terrorists by increasing drone strikes than the previous administration.
But hey... You keep on trying to pump up the Republicans... You must really be butthurt over what happened in November.
-
I take it you support such bullshit.
Did. Not. Even. Read.
I mean posting this crap anywhere but the fucking board made JUST for this stuff makes you a fucking douche, just like Bummy. It is 2 links away now for fucks sake. You try to act intellectually but you and Bummy can't put shit where it belongs... True genius.
If I was a mod and I had to keep moving your shit, I'd ban both your dumb commie asses.