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Title: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: magikusar on December 05, 2012, 11:57:42 PM
I dont get how there arent more dead people with the huge metal trains zipping by open space of stations.

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Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: BigCyp on December 05, 2012, 11:59:11 PM
This is what decline bench, and dips are good for.
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: magikusar on December 06, 2012, 12:00:31 AM
also why dont trains slow to say 4mph when in the station? so as to not smoosh people?
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: jwb on December 06, 2012, 12:00:59 AM
There actually would have been enough space between the wheels and under the platform to lay lengthwise and not be hit.
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: BB on December 06, 2012, 12:27:54 AM
There actually would have been enough space between the wheels and under the platform to lay lengthwise and not be hit.

That is one of the things that varies station by station, some have a bit of room, some not. Also the garbage trenches that some have ducked into vary in depth, you get about 3" of clearance under the train, plus whatever the depth is.

If he was closer to the far end of the track, he might of been able to outrun it, usually at the ends of the platforms there are duckouts with ladders to get to a safe place.
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: magikusar on December 06, 2012, 12:28:59 AM
wonder how many deaths a year
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: anabolichalo on December 06, 2012, 12:29:05 AM
PIP
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Moen on December 06, 2012, 12:29:11 AM
Also wondered how many deaths occur each year in subways. Extremely stupid to not have an extra set of doors between the track and the passengers. Typically American I'm afraid.
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: BB on December 06, 2012, 12:45:39 AM
wonder how many deaths a year

Varies, 1 or 2 a week. Many are drunks or suicides, so they don't make it on to the news.

They won't retrofit the stations because of the cost, and dimensions of the cars and stations, you've got 3 different sizes of cars running on the tracks. They really need to overhall it, but no one wants to spent the time or money. Most of those stations are 50 - 100+ years old, cars can be from 1970's - usually.
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: calfzilla on December 06, 2012, 12:51:10 AM
I dont get how there arent more dead people with the huge metal trains zipping by open space of stations.

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Darwinism.
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Sam on December 06, 2012, 12:55:12 AM
Might have been a good idea to help the guy rather than take a fucking photo. Typical of this generation, when somebody slips/falls the first reaction is not to help, but to get their mobile phones out and start filming. The species is fucked.
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: claymore on December 06, 2012, 03:01:32 AM
Might have been a good idea to help the guy rather than take a fucking photo. Typical of this generation, when somebody slips/falls the first reaction is not to help, but to get their mobile phones out and start filming. The species is fucked.

Agreed !!!
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 06, 2012, 04:12:43 AM
Might have been a good idea to help the guy rather than take a fucking photo. Typical of this generation, when somebody slips/falls the first reaction is not to help, but to get their mobile phones out and start filming. The species is fucked.

They were talking about this on BBC world service yesterday. Basically, one of the scum bag reporters defended the guy by saying that they are only supposed to report the news, not affect it. What a jerk.
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: anabolichalo on December 06, 2012, 04:48:35 AM
Might have been a good idea to help the guy rather than take a fucking photo. Typical of this generation, when somebody slips/falls the first reaction is not to help, but to get their mobile phones out and start filming. The species is fucked.
b-but i was firing my flash at the subway operator...
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 06, 2012, 04:56:39 AM
Basically, one of the scum bag reporters defended the guy by saying that they are only supposed to report the news, not affect it. What a jerk.
I'd like to see him say that if it was his wife/kid there instead.

No, can't help her, it would affect the news!
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 06, 2012, 04:57:35 AM


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He looks a lot like my neighbour who is white, but he has the same sub-human retard face.
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Parker on December 06, 2012, 06:03:41 AM
"He wouldn't leave me alone, so I pushed him."
WTF
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2243699/Subway-death-Widow-Ki-Suk-Han-haunted-photos-husband-final-seconds-dying-subway-tracks.html?ICO=most_read_module  (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2243699/Subway-death-Widow-Ki-Suk-Han-haunted-photos-husband-final-seconds-dying-subway-tracks.html?ICO=most_read_module)
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Stark on December 06, 2012, 06:20:39 AM
I dont get how there arent more dead people with the huge metal trains zipping by open space of stations.

(http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/new-york-post-subway-death-doomed__oPt.jpg)

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So the guy was able to take a picture but not to help the guy up ?
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 06, 2012, 06:38:45 AM
also why dont trains slow to say 4mph when in the station? so as to not smoosh people?

some do.  The BART in San Fran almost comes to a complete stop about 100 yards out and crawls to the station.  NY subs fly in like a bat out of hell
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: titusisback on December 06, 2012, 06:42:39 AM
Might have been a good idea to help the guy rather than take a fucking photo. Typical of this generation, when somebody slips/falls the first reaction is not to help, but to get their mobile phones out and start filming. The species is fucked.

WTF are you talking about, that makes a priceless facebook status update with photo proof
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: calfzilla on December 06, 2012, 06:58:23 AM
Like someone said in another thread, unless you arenas strong as a getbigger the dude probably would have panicked and pulled him in and both would be dead
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2012, 06:59:21 AM
Subways were not made w the idea that ghetto monsters would be shoving people in front of a train. 
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Schmoff on December 06, 2012, 07:12:01 AM
guess the color
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Parker on December 06, 2012, 08:04:59 AM
Subways were not made w the idea that ghetto monsters would be shoving people in front of a train. 
you think it's just Ghetto Monsters?

Lets try it again, "Subways were not made with the idea that PEOPLE would be shoving others in front of a train."
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2012, 08:12:38 AM
you think it's just Ghetto Monsters?

Lets try it again, "Subways were not made with the idea that PEOPLE would be shoving others in front of a train."

I ride the subways all the time.   You know what - if you got rid of the gangsta filth and wortheless scumbags like this animal - it would be a much nicer ride and not feel like you were in the middle of a jungle.   

Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: WOOO on December 06, 2012, 08:26:50 AM
I dont get how there arent more dead people with the huge metal trains zipping by open space of stations.

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would get in the way of the train
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: B_B_C on December 06, 2012, 08:27:21 AM
Subways were not made w the idea that ghetto monsters would be shoving people in front of a train. 
This is not the first nor will it be the last time someone falls or is pushed in front of a train whither above or below ground level.  Subway trains have been around almost as long as trains so there is a great deal of experience in dealing with people falling from platforms.
Most subway systems do not have trains hurtling in to or through stations where there are people waiting,i .e.  the train slows down even before it enters the station.
I dont know this particular station but from the photo it is difficult to figure out why the train was going so fast that it could not break in time.
Again from the photo, station platform seem oddly empty apart from the man attempting to climb out and the photographer (whom of course we dont see in this picture)

Regardless of how the man fell in to the track well it appears this particular  subway system has inadequate safety proseedures.
That is more frightening than the random act of one crazy person
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2012, 08:33:18 AM
This is not the first nor will it be the last time someone falls or is pushed in front of a train whither above or below ground level.  Subway trains have been around almost as long as trains so there is a great deal of experience in dealing with people falling from platforms.
Most subway systems do not have trains hurtling in to or through stations where there are people waiting,i .e.  the train slows down even before it enters the station.
I dont know this particular station but from the photo it is difficult to figure out why the train was going so fast that it could not break in time.
Again from the photo, station platform seem oddly empty apart from the man attempting to climb out and the photographer (whom of course we dont see in this picture)

Regardless of how the man fell in to the track well it appears this particular  subway system has inadequate safety proseedures.
That is more frightening than the random act of one crazy person

There is a space usually undeneath the platform to burrow one self into or a a space below the traxcks, small but doable. 

I was there yesterday and this guy probably paniced and did not realize his options. 
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: B_B_C on December 06, 2012, 08:40:29 AM
There is a space usually undeneath the platform to burrow one self into or a a space below the traxcks, small but doable. 

I was there yesterday and this guy probably paniced and did not realize his options. 

not everybody reacts with a foetal curl up
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2012, 08:41:31 AM
not everybody reacts with a foetal curl up

He may also have had the wind knocked out of him and broke something.   Its a pretty big fall. 

Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: 240 is Back on December 06, 2012, 08:44:35 AM
just slow down the train a few seconds earlier, and crawl in, like someone said.   makes sense
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Fury on December 06, 2012, 08:49:06 AM
some do.  The BART in San Fran almost comes to a complete stop about 100 yards out and crawls to the station.  NY subs fly in like a bat out of hell

They come in pretty slow to some of the NYC stations. But they do fly into others.

just slow down the train a few seconds earlier, and crawl in, like someone said.   makes sense

Subway deaths like this are pretty rare in NYC.
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2012, 08:53:59 AM
just slow down the train a few seconds earlier, and crawl in, like someone said.   makes sense

Its a pretty far fall and I often imagined if I fell what I would do - there are four options assuming you are mobile and did not break your leg. 

1.  Burrow into the space under the platform.  There is like a foot lip under there.

2.  Jump into the middle where the so called "Third Rail" is and pray you dont touch it for either side of the tracks since the train is on both sides.  2 sets of tracks.  Definately an option. 

3.  there is a small space on the floor between each train tie that looks like it could work to where if you lie flat flat flat as possible the train would go over you and not touch you.   Not sure of the dimensions. 

4.  Pull your ass up and toss your leg over the platform and roll over. 

Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Heywood on December 06, 2012, 08:54:17 AM
Trying to help someone that panicked, without any leverage, he pulls you in too.  If he braces his feet against the sides, you're going in too.
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: BigCyp on December 06, 2012, 09:13:40 AM
I bet his dying thought was "Maybe crossfit wasn't such a bad idea"
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 06, 2012, 09:18:28 AM
not everybody reacts with a foetal curl up

NYC needs more Bernhard Goetz's riding the subway.
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2012, 10:40:11 AM
NYC needs more Bernhard Goetz's riding the subway.

Damn right. 

The subways is flooded with animals and worthless layabouts and thugs lately. 
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Nails on December 06, 2012, 10:45:07 AM
they should provide a ditch or a trench on both sides of the concrete barrier to roll under incase of an emergency, but in these situations 99% of the times people are to scared to roll under it and would rather try to climb out , and then some people would be to dumb to even know they are there , case in point getting on an airplane and the flight attendant always always always tells at the very least 3 morons on the plane to buckle their safety belts
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2012, 10:46:36 AM
they should provide a ditch or a trench on both sides of the concrete barrier to roll under incase of an emergency, but in these situations 99% of the times people are to scared to roll under it and would rather try to climb out , and then some people would be to dumb to even know they are there , case in point getting on an airplane and the flight attendant always always always tells at the very least 3 morons on the plane to buckle their safety belts

remember that guy who saved a guy who fell a few years ago?   There is a little lip to crowl under.  This guy probably paniced
Title: Re: why do subways not have steps below so some guy who falls in can step up and out
Post by: Tapeworm on December 06, 2012, 11:28:41 AM
Subway trains have been around almost as long as trains

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