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Title: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 06, 2012, 12:49:29 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/nfl-great-jimmy-brown-quickly-gave-idea-fight-070258768--box.html

Sports Illustrated's Chris Mannix wrote a wonderful profile of Top Rank chairman Bob Arum, who will turn 81 on Saturday. That's the same day that Arum promotes the fourth fight between Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez, one that is expected to generate at least 1 million pay-per-view sales.
 
Mannix's rollicking piece is filled with anecdotes from Arum's 46 years as one of boxing's leading promoters.
 
Jimmy Brown retired as the NFL's all-time leading rusher (AP file photo)The best, though, details the time that NFL great Jimmy Brown decided he wanted to fight then-heavyweight champion Muhammad Ali.
 
Brown is one of the greatest players in NFL history and is regarded by many as the finest athlete of the 20th century. In addition to being a dominant NFL player, Brown is also arguably the best lacrosse player who ever lived.
 
He also had a legendary reputation for his toughness. Given that Brown had introduced Arum to Ali, it was hard for Arum to say no without at least checking. Brown figured it was a slam dunk massive payday.
 
Brown had retired from the Cleveland Browns after the 1965 season, while Arum began promoting in 1966. Ali was the heavyweight champion and entering his prime, while Brown was becoming an actor. Arum felt indebted to Brown, so he decided to see if he could convince Ali of the merits of the idea.
 

So I went to talk to Ali. He says, 'Jim wants to do what? Bring him here.' So I took him to Hyde Park in London, where Ali used to run. Ali said, 'Jimmy, here's what we're going to do: You hit me as hard as you can.' So Brown starts swinging and swinging, and he can't hit him. He's swinging wildly and not even coming close. This goes on for, like, 30 seconds. Then Ali hits him with this quick one-two to his face. Jimmy just stops and says, 'OK, I get the point.'
 
Brown was far superior to Ali as an athlete and probably could have beaten him at any game they might have played. In boxing, though, not even the great Jim Brown was in Ali's classic.
 
Mannix's piece is meticulously researched and marvelously written and well worth checking out.
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: magikusar on December 06, 2012, 12:58:19 PM
jim brown was big slow guy who took roids when others were not tkaing them

he did ok vs shityt competition

hes get rocked now

walter payton far better

jim browns boosk arrogant boeyond belief
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 06, 2012, 12:59:24 PM
Ayn rand had anal sex with hitler.
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 06, 2012, 01:09:46 PM
ok, she probably didn't, but she might have.
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Nails on December 06, 2012, 01:11:17 PM
Mickey Rourke also out ran Usain bolt in a race in the streets



(http://www.runningisfunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/rourke-bolt.jpg)
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: lvtolft on December 06, 2012, 01:31:12 PM
Mickey Rourke also out ran Usain bolt in a race in the streets



(http://www.runningisfunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/rourke-bolt.jpg)
LOL!  :D
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: magikusar on December 06, 2012, 01:32:32 PM
ok, she probably didn't, but she might have.
you heard the crickets chrpin huh
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 06, 2012, 01:42:36 PM
Mickey Rourke also out ran Usain bolt in a race in the streets



(http://www.runningisfunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/rourke-bolt.jpg)

rourke is known to be quick over the first 10 yards - it's possible.
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 06, 2012, 01:43:43 PM
Boxing and Street Fighting are two different beasts.  Once you can grab, tackle, throw etc... boxing skills go out the window
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 06, 2012, 01:44:48 PM
Boxing and Street Fighting are two different beasts.  Once you can grab, tackle, throw etc... boxing skills go out the window

agree. not saying that brown would have won, but I have a feeling that if he wanted to tackle/throw ali, he probably could have.
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Nails on December 06, 2012, 02:00:54 PM
didnt rocky get his Hulk hogan vs Rocky idea from  Gorilla Monsoon beating the shit out of Ali ??
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: ChopperRider on December 06, 2012, 02:03:36 PM
agree. not saying that brown would have won, but I have a feeling that if he wanted to tackle/throw ali, he probably could have.

I think a lot of people don't realize the size of Ali in his prime. I met him in the Houston airport as a boy. He was every bit of 6'-3" and 235 lbs. that's not to say Jim brown was fair sized either, but Ali wasn't Frank Zane.
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Nails on December 06, 2012, 02:05:32 PM
(http://www.halloffamememorabilia.com/images/products/p-528579-jim-brown-autographed-hand-signed-running-with-muhammad-ali-8x10-photo-hc-1reaub1cdx.jpg)
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Nails on December 06, 2012, 02:06:33 PM
(http://ickmusic.com/pics/ali_jb.jpg)
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: dj181 on December 06, 2012, 03:51:18 PM
Ayn rand had anal sex with hitler.

lol
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: WOOO on December 06, 2012, 03:54:52 PM
Ayn rand had anal sex with hitler.


epic
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Parker on December 06, 2012, 04:03:12 PM
(http://ickmusic.com/pics/ali_jb.jpg)
-James Brown: "I'm the hardest working man in show biz."
-Ali: "I'm a bad, bad man!"

-
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: bradistani on December 06, 2012, 04:15:03 PM
jim brown was a good actor. starred in some great films..
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Parker on December 06, 2012, 04:20:13 PM
jim brown was a good actor. starred in some great films..
too bad that he tended to have a heavy hand towards the ladies in his life. Unlike his co-star Fred Williamson.
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Nails on December 06, 2012, 04:20:29 PM
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: bradistani on December 06, 2012, 04:24:41 PM
too bad that he tended to have a heavy hand towards the ladies in his life. Unlike his co-star Fred Williamson.

a man of his time i guess.. it was ok to slap your missus back then  :-\
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Parker on December 06, 2012, 04:26:52 PM

have you seen Chris' new movie?
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Nails on December 06, 2012, 04:30:06 PM
have you seen Chris' new movie?

The last movie i seen with Chris in it was GROWN UPS

whats the name of his new flick?
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Parker on December 06, 2012, 04:36:20 PM
The last movie i seen with Chris in it was GROWN UPS

whats the name of his new flick?
Is that the one where he's wearing "hipster" glasses, and gets married to a French white woman who has a perverted father and drunk siblings?
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Nails on December 06, 2012, 04:40:55 PM
Is that the one where he's wearing "hipster" glasses, and gets married to a French white woman who has a perverted father and drunk siblings?


2 Days in New York (2012)


Is it any good???


Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Parker on December 06, 2012, 04:53:10 PM

2 Days in New York (2012)


Is it any good???



i don't know, been meaning to watch it. Something odd about it though, it's like he's out of character, maybe he didn't want to be type cast, but from the trailer it looks like he is trying too hard and his character looks and acts like the kid who got beat up a lot in HS.
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Nails on December 06, 2012, 04:57:19 PM
i don't know, been meaning to watch it. Something odd about it though, it's like he's out of character, maybe he didn't want to be type cast, but from the trailer it looks like he is trying too hard and his character looks and acts like the kid who got beat up a lot in HS.


Yea i agree, seems like Fucking Jim Carry in The Majestic Poster    
 
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: arce1988 on December 06, 2012, 05:13:57 PM
  Who knows if Jim had started Boxing when he was five?
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: che on December 06, 2012, 05:37:27 PM
Boxing and Street Fighting are two different beasts.  Once you can grab, tackle, throw etc... boxing skills go out the window

I agree , boxers don't know how to  fight , basically a boxer will  throw a punch if he  doesn't knock you out he  will stand there waiting for you to grab him  and throw him around like a rag doll until you decide to  take his back to cinch a  beautiful deep rear naked choke.
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Straw Man on December 06, 2012, 05:46:14 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/nfl-great-jimmy-brown-quickly-gave-idea-fight-070258768--box.html

Sports Illustrated's Chris Mannix wrote a wonderful profile of Top Rank chairman Bob Arum, who will turn 81 on Saturday. That's the same day that Arum promotes the fourth fight between Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez, one that is expected to generate at least 1 million pay-per-view sales.
 
Mannix's rollicking piece is filled with anecdotes from Arum's 46 years as one of boxing's leading promoters.
 
Jimmy Brown retired as the NFL's all-time leading rusher (AP file photo)The best, though, details the time that NFL great Jimmy Brown decided he wanted to fight then-heavyweight champion Muhammad Ali.
 
Brown is one of the greatest players in NFL history and is regarded by many as the finest athlete of the 20th century. In addition to being a dominant NFL player, Brown is also arguably the best lacrosse player who ever lived.
 
He also had a legendary reputation for his toughness. Given that Brown had introduced Arum to Ali, it was hard for Arum to say no without at least checking. Brown figured it was a slam dunk massive payday.
 
Brown had retired from the Cleveland Browns after the 1965 season, while Arum began promoting in 1966. Ali was the heavyweight champion and entering his prime, while Brown was becoming an actor. Arum felt indebted to Brown, so he decided to see if he could convince Ali of the merits of the idea.
 

So I went to talk to Ali. He says, 'Jim wants to do what? Bring him here.' So I took him to Hyde Park in London, where Ali used to run. Ali said, 'Jimmy, here's what we're going to do: You hit me as hard as you can.' So Brown starts swinging and swinging, and he can't hit him. He's swinging wildly and not even coming close. This goes on for, like, 30 seconds. Then Ali hits him with this quick one-two to his face. Jimmy just stops and says, 'OK, I get the point.'
 
Brown was far superior to Ali as an athlete and probably could have beaten him at any game they might have played. In boxing, though, not even the great Jim Brown was in Ali's classic.
 
Mannix's piece is meticulously researched and marvelously written and well worth checking out.


if that is called "almost beating Ali in a fight" then I could have "almost beat" him too
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 06, 2012, 06:08:34 PM
if that is called "almost beating Ali in a fight" then I could have "almost beat" him too


maybe you should confine yourself to posting on the politics board as the subtleties of the G&O appear to be (significantly) beyond your grasp.

Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: dj181 on December 06, 2012, 07:49:27 PM
I agree , boxers don't know how to  fight , basically a boxer will  throw a punch if he  doesn't knock you out he  will stand there waiting for you to grab him  and throw him around like a rag doll until you decide to  take his back to cinch a  beautiful deep rear naked choke.

lol
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Howard on December 06, 2012, 08:11:27 PM
Boxing and Street Fighting are two different beasts.  Once you can grab, tackle, throw etc... boxing skills go out the window

Boxing vs street fighting is as different as sex with a real girl vs jerking off.
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 06, 2012, 08:25:16 PM
Boxing vs street fighting is as different as sex with a real girl vs jerking off.

you could star in commercials as the most boring man in the world.
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Howard on December 06, 2012, 08:27:45 PM
you could star in commercials as the most boring man in the world.

That was f'n funny and I actually spit out my drink reading it.
No comeback after that zinger. You got me.
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: mame09 on December 06, 2012, 08:39:53 PM
being a great athlete will not make you a great fighter and he happened to step to ali of all people lol

carl lewis was a fantastic runner. all i see is the fastest person to run away from a fight
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: arce1988 on March 07, 2013, 06:30:13 PM
(http://www.terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/jim-brown.JPG)
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: claymore on March 07, 2013, 06:31:45 PM
Tina Turner would've had a better chance at beating Ali then Jim Brown.
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: K-1 on March 07, 2013, 07:24:51 PM
I agree , boxers don't know how to  fight , basically a boxer will  throw a punch if he  doesn't knock you out he  will stand there waiting for you to grab him  and throw him around like a rag doll until you decide to  take his back to cinch a  beautiful deep rear naked choke.

LMFAO
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 07, 2013, 08:05:54 PM
I remember Tyson in his prime and you would hear people say shit like Bo Jackson could beat him in a fight and bullshit like that. If there is any truth to that Ali Jim Brown get together, one thing is certain, they stopped the sparring before Brown was completely humiliated.
Title: Re: Jim Brown almost beat Ali in a fight
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on March 08, 2013, 03:52:15 PM
a consensus is emerging that ali was overrated.