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Title: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: magikusar on December 09, 2012, 10:00:37 PM
I mean germany stomped uk and france twice and decimated russia.

USA saved the ungrateful bacon.

Now no one doing anything as Germany wins without bullets.

Ownership of other countries moving toward Germany?

Unless mass defaults.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8849346/Eurozone-debt-crisis-talks-break-down-as-Angela-Merkel-rejects-rescue-deal.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8849346/Eurozone-debt-crisis-talks-break-down-as-Angela-Merkel-rejects-rescue-deal.html)


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: dj181 on December 09, 2012, 10:18:49 PM
the main leaders of the American War Machine during WW2 were of Germanic heritage

ie. Patton, Eisenhower, Roosevelt=all Germanic surnames

Germanic peoples are THE BEST


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 09, 2012, 10:20:44 PM
I'm optimistic about the coming Fourth Reich.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: dj181 on December 09, 2012, 10:23:41 PM
I'm optimistic about the coming Fourth Reich.

lol

if there was a Forth Reich it will be led by the jews

oh wait a minute! it already is and has been in process for the past 50 years or so, through the control of media, hollywood, law, and banking


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 09, 2012, 10:24:23 PM
lol

if there was a Forth Reich it will be led by the jews

oh wait a minute! it already is and has been in process for the past 50 years or so, through the control of media, hollywood, law, and banking


Thanks for bursting my bubble....  :(


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: tbombz on December 09, 2012, 10:36:17 PM
Laws banning the outsourcing of jobs, strong business-education synergy in providing vocational training to all students and free university if you can pass the entrance exam and keep your grades up.     These policies contribute massively to their relative prosperity


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: sync pulse on December 09, 2012, 10:46:57 PM
Laws banning the outsourcing of jobs, strong business-education synergy in providing vocational training to all students and free university if you can pass the entrance exam and keep your grades up.     These policies contribute massively to their relative prosperity

Indeed this is so...I think we should look at some of these policies.

The only saffron in the weave is the recent ill advised turn against nuclear fission and fuel reprocessing.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: JBGRAY on December 09, 2012, 10:52:07 PM
Soon to be a Muslim shit hole.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: sync pulse on December 09, 2012, 10:56:59 PM
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Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: magikusar on December 09, 2012, 11:04:17 PM
if business school is free in germany how come they still dont come out with many good low priced products


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: arce1988 on December 09, 2012, 11:04:43 PM
 Anglo Saxon


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: WillRiker on December 09, 2012, 11:45:04 PM
lol, germany decomated russia.yeah right, there was never any german flag on moscow, but the russians made berlin their bitch.

remember the wall,  ;D

stalingrad, does that sound familiar? :D


as for the debt, well, if you think germany is winning, think again, maybe go to germany and have a look, ppl are working 2jobs and poorly paid, have to pay alot of taxes, whoever can,is fleeing to switzerland.

and when the others go bankrupt, who will buy the german export goods?and with what

btw debt isnt necesarly a bad thing, debt is the money in circulation.someones debt is some other ones wealth.

Russians made Berlin their bitch... Lol, at what cost? Do you have any idea how many soldiers the USSR lost at the battle of Berlin? Why do you think that the Western Allies were grateful that the Russians attacked Berlin?

Russia defeated Germany alright (with the help of american supplies), But the price was sky high.

 


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: magikusar on December 09, 2012, 11:46:11 PM
Russians made Berlin their bitch... Lol, at what cost? Do you have any idea how many soldiers the USSR lost at the battle of Berlin? Why do you think that the Western Allies were grateful that the Russians attacked Berlin?

Russia defeated Germany alright (with the help of american supplies), But the price was sky high.

 

i think russia had 25million die in ww2, wow the most of any country!!

the biggest losers!


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: mass243 on December 10, 2012, 01:15:39 AM

Haha, oh brother  ;D



(http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/mhillebrandt/2006/02/16/berlin1945.jpg?maxWidth=800&maxHeight=600)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWwE56y-THM



Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: dj181 on December 10, 2012, 01:17:02 AM
i think russia had 25million die in ww2, wow the most of any country!!

the biggest losers!

exactly


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 10, 2012, 01:23:03 AM
Russia has some hot girls.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: mass243 on December 10, 2012, 01:25:16 AM
No, after ww2 there emerged two dominating countries.
USSR made the biggest territorial claims after the ww2.


Yes, at heavy price but biggest winners by far.


URAAAAAAAAAAAA!

(http://www.pbs.org/behindcloseddoors/maps/soviet_influence_in_europe.png)




The badasses... haha, god I love their style
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00790/Russian-soldiers-46_790901c.jpg)
(http://static.stuff.co.nz/1233108507/830/581830.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/xpoa61.jpg)


It looks like they don't really want to fight but every time someone attacks them, they just take little bonus if they are forced in arms  ;D


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: magikusar on December 10, 2012, 01:46:19 AM
Russia has some hot girls.

"I love when russian women move into the neighorhood because the price of handjobs drops like a rock"  --some guy in a los angeles bar 2009


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: syntaxmachine on December 10, 2012, 02:06:19 AM
The OP's article is over a year old. Berlin has in general continued to kowtow to Eurozone-wide interests rather than, say, ejecting Greece out of the club and being done with it. Apparently, the Germans have accepted the proposition that the whole lot of them will rise or fall together, something the continued series of largely German-funded bailouts evince (the last of which was approved 10 days ago).


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: dj181 on December 10, 2012, 02:13:51 AM
The OP's article is over a year old. Berlin has in general continued to kowtow to Eurozone-wide interests rather than, say, ejecting Greece out of the club and being done with it. Apparently, the Germans have accepted the proposition that the whole lot of them will rise or fall together, something the continued series of largely German-funded bailouts evince (the last of which was approved 10 days ago).

You have a Jewish nose.

it's just too bad i didn't get in on their piece of the pie, but my dad did marry a well to do jewess after he and my mom finished their relationship, and she supported him financially as he finished up his doctorate studies at The Ohio State University and then when all was said and done he promptly divorced her and took a good bit of her wealth with him

where's your pic handsome?


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2012, 02:19:19 AM
lol, germany decomated russia.yeah right, there was never any german flag on moscow, but the russians made berlin their bitch.

remember the wall,  ;D

stalingrad, does that sound familiar? :D


as for the debt, well, if you think germany is winning, think again, maybe go to germany and have a look, ppl are working 2jobs and poorly paid, have to pay alot of taxes, whoever can,is fleeing to switzerland.

and when the others go bankrupt, who will buy the german export goods?and with what

btw debt isnt necesarly a bad thing, debt is the money in circulation.someones debt is some other ones wealth.
GOOD POST .. this Guy knows shit about Germany. His post is a load of shit. Germany is in a diabolical state of Poverty and Merkel covered it up recently because election time is coming. Have you ever lived here? doubt it...have you been Active here in Politics? ...NO. so you know nothing. Germany never walked over the UK, the brits always stood their ground and as Galeniko wrote the Russians kicked the Germans out of Russia AND took Berlin. Listen i have spoke to a lot of old guys here who were ex Prisoners in Russia and survived Stalingrad. Their opinion was worlds apart from your "expert" opinion. An old guy who lived next door to me was in the U Boats and said to me he was so happy he went in a British POW camp. The Grandfather of my wife was in stalingrad and made it home. some of these POWs were held years after in Russia...so your observations are way off. None of these old Germans ever spoke bad of the Russians as bad soldiers. magikusar..you know nothing.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: mass243 on December 10, 2012, 02:27:39 AM
GOOD POST .. this Guy knows shit about Germany. His post is a load of shit. Germany is in a diabolical state of Poverty and Merkel covered it up recently because election time is coming. Have you ever lived here? doubt it...have you been Active here in Politics? ...NO. so you know nothing. Germany never walked over the UK, the brits always stood their ground and as Galeniko wrote the Russians kicked the Germans out of Russia AND took Berlin. Listen i have spoke to a lot of old guys here who were ex Prisoners in Russia and survived Stalingrad. Their opinion was worlds apart from your "expert" opinion. An old guy who lived next door to me was in the U Boats and said to me he was so happy he went in a British POW camp. The Grandfather of my wife was in stalingrad and made it home. some of these POWs were held years after in Russia...so your observations are way off. None of these old Germans ever spoke bad of the Russians as bad soldiers. magikusar..you know nothing.


Nah, "magikusar" is just a kid who most likely has never held an assault rifle in his hands.
Those are usually the best experts   :)


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: dj181 on December 10, 2012, 02:46:51 AM
lol at the neo fascists here who think they wouldve done well under a nazi regime.

in particular, the polish guy dj181.

he wouldva been seen as untermensch.


stalin suggested to make germany a farmers country after the war, germany can thank the british and usa that this didnt happen.

as for germanys economy, haha, its best to go there and talk to germans about it.its not as bad a the uk, but its bad enough.

i dont know if the ppl know about tax rates there, and how the big companies keep the pppls wages down in order to boost exports.

ppl say switzerlands economy is great, well, its ok, not great, but the german one is in deep shit compared to here.

1euro jobs, part time jobs, hartz4, wages, and,lmfao, their pension payout, have a look at that and then talk.



i'm not polish dude, i'm from the US of A, Columbus, Ohio to be exact

i live in poland at the moment, but not everybody living in poland is polish lol

you live in switzerland, but you aren't swiss


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: dj181 on December 10, 2012, 02:49:28 AM
But presumably you'll get some of the 'pie' your dad poached off the jewess as inheritance?

If you'd like, we can enter into negotiations and work something out where if I post pics and the majority of the board agrees I'm rather handsome and better looking than you, you have to make a concession of some sort.

maybe i'll be up for the pic post contest, but not here

me thinks it would be a MUCH BETTER option to do it where females judge us and not dudes, and this will be a face AND body contest

so what you think?


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2012, 02:59:27 AM

Nah, "magikusar" is just a kid who most likely has never held an assault rifle in his hands.
Those are usually the best experts   :)
yes, seen fuck all of life and shout their mouths off here.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: WOOO on December 10, 2012, 03:19:48 AM
yes, seen fuck all of life and shout their mouths off here.

X2


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: syntaxmachine on December 10, 2012, 03:29:16 AM
let me add one thing, the german funded bailouts, arent really german funded, or bailouts, they are loans.

germany loans the money and gives it to the other states for more interest.

ppl always think its german taxpayer money used for this, but its not.


Sure, what the press has chosen to call 'bailouts' are really loans with a bunch of preconditions attached. But they still fit the meaning of 'bailout' in some sense because without them Greece would go under and because the conditions are relatively lenient for Greece (e.g., the 2nd bailout screwed private investors in order to help the Greeks out a bit).

As far as the bailouts not being German tax-payer funded, I'm not sure what you mean exactly. I haven't been following the Eurozone debt crises narrative for months because I haven't renewed my newspaper subscription, but last I checked (from the 2nd bailout onwards) the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF) is the primary mechanism used to bail out the Greeks, and this mechanism is about 27% German funded. I take that to mean German government funded, i.e., German tax-payer funded. Are you saying this isn't so?

(http://www.tickbytick.co.uk/_Media/guarentee_commitments_of-2.jpeg)

maybe i'll be up for the pic post contest, but not here

me thinks it would be a MUCH BETTER option to do it where females judge us and not dudes, and this will be a face AND body contest

so what you think?

I don't know, having actual women judge us seems kind of gay and unbecoming of getbiggers. Why not just do our thing here and the resident females can weigh in as desired? Where else would we go to do this? This is the only forum I frequent and I can't be bothered pouring effort into some other website.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: Parker on December 10, 2012, 03:41:02 AM
Another War thread, on who beat who, who helped who to beat someone else, blah, blah....not even  WWII vets talk this much about the great War.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: dj181 on December 10, 2012, 03:48:14 AM
Sure, what the press has chosen to call 'bailouts' are really loans with a bunch of preconditions attached. But they still fit the meaning of 'bailout' in some sense because without them Greece would go under and because the conditions are relatively lenient for Greece (e.g., the 2nd bailout screwed private investors in order to help the Greeks out a bit).

As far as the bailouts not being German tax-payer funded, I'm not sure what you mean exactly. I haven't been following the Eurozone debt crises narrative for months because I haven't renewed my newspaper subscription, but last I checked (from the 2nd bailout onwards) the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF) is the primary mechanism used to bail out the Greeks, and this mechanism is about 27% German funded. I take that to mean German government funded, i.e., German tax-payer funded. Are you saying this isn't so?

(http://www.tickbytick.co.uk/_Media/guarentee_commitments_of-2.jpeg)

I don't know, having actual women judge us seems kind of gay and unbecoming of getbiggers. Why not just do our thing here and the resident females can weigh in as desired? Where else would we go to do this? This is the only forum I frequent and I can't be bothered pouring effort into some other website.

in case you haven't noticed, i occasionally play the role of heel here and it's actually panned off as a bit of a success as a few peeps here aren't my biggest fans lol

so i really don't think that i could get a fair and objective judgement here as many folks would let their "emotions" get the best of them

anyways, i apologize for being a d!ckhead


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2012, 03:50:56 AM
Another War thread, on who beat who, who helped who to beat someone else, blah, blah....not even  WWII vets talk this much about the great War.
some of them do mate but only to guys who will understand and not a young fucking punk...


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: _bruce_ on December 10, 2012, 03:56:59 AM
As already mentioned Germany is doing well on paper because of huge exports which have their guaranteed drawback included.
 


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: magikusar on December 10, 2012, 03:58:10 AM
europe central banks playin games as fed is in usa

game  just pushes bomb into future

plan it to grab more political power

then default

create crisis in order to counterfeit money and steal ownership

cronies get all the loot

wish I could print trillions n get away with it


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: syntaxmachine on December 10, 2012, 04:00:33 AM
nah, the esfs thing isnt taxpayer funded, its central bank funded.the deposit money isnt given away, its just a guarantee on paper.

i follow german politics, so far the german taxpayers havent bailed out anyone with their money, even though man germans think they did.

however, the loans they give out are a debt on their own books, so if greece fails to pay back, the german taxpayer would have to pay it.

or credit default swap insurance would come to play.i dont know.

the whole thing is ridiculous, you have nations in the esfs guaranteeing finances, who need bailouts themselves by now.

i think ppl in europe will have to stop thinking theyre entitled to all the consumption and live poorer lifes, or everything will go bust.

so many things going wrong, this cant end well.

Ok, thanks for the correction. In the end the German taxpayers are still justified in being concerned, though, since a Greek collapse is a definite possibility -- and that's when they will actually have to pay for it.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 10, 2012, 04:22:48 AM
 Germany is the major provider for the bail out loans. That pie chart doesn't accurately present the funding of the loans. The commitments are not completely about bail out loans.

 Some say it doesn't effect Germany because it is loan. Who is going to lose when that loan is defaulted? The German tax payer. Everyone knows that without severe reforms they are in no condition to pay back a penny. Germany should get out of the Euro. Then watch what happens to countries like Greece and Spain.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2012, 04:25:30 AM
The cuts are on the poor people and this has went on for a few years and every year the net is closing in...This year in Germany the German Job Centre recorded the highest cuts on the jobless. The German Social courts are over flooded with cases against the Authorities. The Euro is a failure..Merkel is a Failure... however the problem really started BEFORE Herr SCHRÖDER, he just made it all worse with his HARTZ reforms...poverty and cheap labour...modern slaves. The Concerns are happy...the Rich are happy while the poor are more and more under the CDU Jackboot.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 10, 2012, 04:25:36 AM
Why did  Germany ever agreed to hook up with these loser nations?


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: dj181 on December 10, 2012, 04:38:41 AM
what's the story with norway?


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 10, 2012, 04:39:46 AM
Another War thread, on who beat who, who helped who to beat someone else, blah, blah....not even  WWII vets talk this much about the great War.

Not to be a know it all, but the Great War was World War One.  :D


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: Red Hook on December 10, 2012, 05:20:51 AM
let me add one thing, the german funded bailouts, arent really german funded, or bailouts, they are loans.

germany loans the money and gives it to the other states for more interest.

ppl always think its german taxpayer money used for this, but its not.

yeah the germans have a history of "either our way or burn everything down along with us if we fail".

i dont like the usa foreign policy, but i find it good that the usmilitary is stationed there.

these loans are at very very low interest rate, damn near zero

also, over time they are generally forgiven or negotiated down to pennies on the dollar..so they might as well be gifts.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: galain on December 10, 2012, 06:24:10 AM
True that - I don't really think Germany is lending money to Greece with any expectation of seeing it again.

They're funny these Germans. They really don't have that much of a national mindset from what I can see - they still think in terms of their different 'states'. Where I am, Baden Wuerttemberg, the local economy is still quite healthy. This is the state where a lot of Germany's automotive industry and medical technology industry is located - consequently - it is, together with Bavaria, where all the money in the country is.

And pretty much everyone I speak to here doesn't give a fuck about the rest of Germany! They were plenty pissed off about the latest Greek bailout, but in terms of worrying about the national economy - nope - I'm not seeing it at all. As long as our little part of the country is alright, who cares about anyone else?

It's this attitude that makes customer service such a fucking disaster in this country. 'Not my problem.'


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: MAXX on December 10, 2012, 06:40:02 AM
lol

if there was a Forth Reich it will be led by the jews

oh wait a minute! it already is and has been in process for the past 50 years or so, through the control of media, hollywood, law, and banking

incase you didn't notice that was the case before the holocaust aswell


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 10, 2012, 06:51:07 AM
I don't know if it is true, but I read that the Jews played a big role in pushing Germany into war by attacking their economy by blocking international trade etc to the point that Germany was in desperate trouble and  lashed back.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: James28 on December 10, 2012, 07:09:55 AM
what's the story with norway?

Nothing. Like Switzerland wisely keeping out of the EU instead opting for EEA membership. One of the most oil rich countries in the world. Their government, according to a recent program I saw on CNN, slams the Norwegian oil companies 78% (not a typo) tax on earnings, and keeps the money in an 'oil fund' (dunno the correct name) to help out the country if disaster strikes.

Read about it here;

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b6e0e756-e87c-11e1-8397-00144feab49a.html#axzz2Ef6Ams2o

Country wise it's a nice place. Everything new, clean, renewable. Everything works with practically zero corruption. People are nice and girls smoking.

Sadly the mud people from the 3rd world have discovered it so on the odd occasion a bunch of disgusting towelheads can be heard complaining for more free shit. Other than that, it's a great place to raise your kids.



Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: _bruce_ on December 10, 2012, 07:17:18 AM
Switzerland is able to be as a European country should be because it's dipped in gold. All lesser countries had to quasi give in to EU "theocracy" on alien terms.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: dj181 on December 10, 2012, 07:19:15 AM
Nothing. Like Switzerland wisely keeping out of the EU instead opting for EEA membership. One of the most oil rich countries in the world. Their government, according to a recent program I saw on CNN, slams the Norwegian oil companies 78% (not a typo) tax on earnings, and keeps the money in an 'oil fund' (dunno the correct name) to help out the country if disaster strikes.

Read about it here;

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b6e0e756-e87c-11e1-8397-00144feab49a.html#axzz2Ef6Ams2o

Country wise it's a nice place. Everything new, clean, renewable. Everything works with practically zero corruption. People are nice and girls smoking.

Sadly the mud people from the 3rd world have discovered it so on the odd occasion a bunch of disgusting towelheads can be heard complaining for more free shit. Other than that, it's a great place to raise your kids.



thanks dude

in fact i just saw on a forbes magazine on-line article that norway was ranked number 1 with regards to the most desirable place to live on this planet, in fact all the scando countries (norway, denmark, sweden, and finland) were within the top 8 of this list


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: James28 on December 10, 2012, 07:21:41 AM
I don't know if it is true, but I read that the Jews played a big role in pushing Germany into war by attacking their economy by blocking international trade etc to the point that Germany was in desperate trouble and  lashed back.

From the Jews I could expect that. I live close to Golders Green which have a massive Jewish population. Probably the biggest in UK. I've heard from non Jewish shop owners that Jewish landlords strongly prefer to rent to other Jewish tenants, or ask an extortionate rental price for commercial properties to non Jewish clients. I wouldn't say it's the norm but they do seem to have a massive preference sticking with their own and working for and with their own.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: James28 on December 10, 2012, 07:23:45 AM
Switzerland is able to be as a European country should be because it's dipped in gold. All lesser countries had to quasi give in to EU "theocracy" on alien terms.

Yes, but they don't need the EU. They already have the trade agreements and due to their political position (EEA), they get to control their own borders, currency (without pressure to join the doomed Euro) and destiny without being affiliated to the likes of Greece, Spain, Portugal or Ireland.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: MAXX on December 10, 2012, 07:26:26 AM
From the Jews I could expect that. I live close to Golders Green which have a massive Jewish population. Probably the biggest in UK. I've heard from non Jewish shop owners that Jewish landlords strongly prefer to rent to other Jewish tenants, or ask an extortionate rental price for commercial properties to non Jewish clients. I wouldn't say it's the norm but they do seem to have a massive preference sticking with their own and working for and with their own.
tribalism is strongly rooted with them. that coupled with high intelligence is why they often reach high in the social ladder and get wealthy.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: James28 on December 10, 2012, 07:29:21 AM
tribalism is strong rooted with them. that coupled with high intelligence is why they often reach high in the social ladder and get wealthy.

And I really like that about them. I'd never in a billion years work directly for one or do any kind of business with one, but as a people they're quiet, respectful, clean, non violent and stick to themselves. I don't need their friendship or money so they're cool by me.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 10, 2012, 07:30:48 AM
From the Jews I could expect that. I live close to Golders Green which have a massive Jewish population. Probably the biggest in UK. I've heard from non Jewish shop owners that Jewish landlords strongly prefer to rent to other Jewish tenants, or ask an extortionate rental price for commercial properties to non Jewish clients. I wouldn't say it's the norm but they do seem to have a massive preference sticking with their own and working for and with their own.

I know this is true because I have experienced it first hand.  I was house hunting with two friends, brothers, who look Jewish (but are not), and the real estate agency thought they were jewish and gave them special treatment/preference.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: James28 on December 10, 2012, 07:37:19 AM
thanks dude

in fact i just saw on a forbes magazine on-line article that norway was ranked number 1 with regards to the most desirable place to live on this planet, in fact all the scando countries (norway, denmark, sweden, and finland) were within the top 8 of this list

Many reasons for that. Great education systems which are completely free. An instilled respect for the environment. Fantastic social services but you do pay a slightly higher than usual tax rate for that. Not as crazy as morons such as Coach (he once thought the Danes pay 150% tax) would have you believe about 'socialized countries'. I've done contract work in Sweden at a fairly high rate and only paid about 20%. It's usually about 30% across the board, but you do get good service for what you pay.

I've not travelled Finland as extensively as I would've liked, but from what I've seen it's a great place too. Though, they don't class themselves as Scandinavian, but Nordic. The rest of Scandinavians see them as Scando-Russians.

I'll more than likely end up in either Sweden or Norway within the next 5 years.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: MAXX on December 10, 2012, 07:44:27 AM
And I really like that about them. I'd never in a billion years work directly for one or do any kind of business with one, but as a people they're quiet, respectful, clean, non violent and stick to themselves. I don't need their friendship or money so they're cool by me.
Well... IDK if it's a good trait in the long run.

If you are welcomed to a new country maybe you shouldn't disrespect the host people with this behavior? When you reach high power(ex. banking/politics) and continue this behavior people will get pissed off about it. history shows it will eventually lead to conflict.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: MAXX on December 10, 2012, 07:47:21 AM
Many reasons for that. Great education systems which are completely free. An instilled respect for the environment. Fantastic social services but you do pay a slightly higher than usual tax rate for that. Not as crazy as morons such as Coach (he once thought the Danes pay 150% tax) would have you believe about 'socialized countries'. I've done contract work in Sweden at a fairly high rate and only paid about 20%. It's usually about 30% across the board, but you do get good service for what you pay.

I've not travelled Finland as extensively as I would've liked, but from what I've seen it's a great place too. Though, they don't class themselves as Scandinavian, but Nordic. The rest of Scandinavians see them as Scando-Russians.

I'll more than likely end up in either Sweden or Norway within the next 5 years.
Norway is obviously the better choice. Now and more so in the future.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: James28 on December 10, 2012, 07:58:44 AM
unfortunately,its not that simple.

we do need the eu in some ways.

100thousand germans have flooded the labour market here in only a few years.

living costs are driving up and up.

btw,as for norway and sweden being desireable places to live, well, it always depends, with money, almost everywhere is good.

scandinavian countriue have shit weather and are socialist in nature, keep that in mind.

id rather live on spanish canary islands if id retire

For the weather I'd also live in Spain when I retire, but with a 25% and rising unemployment rate, massive debts and in a position needing to borrow money NOT to go bust, I'd rather stay and be rich in Scandinavia and holiday 6 times a year. I wouldn't live anywhere purely for the weather.

edit.

Plus from what I remember (I don't go there often), you need to bribe every fucker to get anything serious done, massive immigration issues due to location close to that dark continent. High levels of corruption.

no thanks.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2012, 09:18:13 AM
well i want to retire in my Scottish Castle on the banks of Loch Lomond.... ;D


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: magikusar on December 11, 2012, 02:24:30 PM

Nah, "magikusar" is just a kid who most likely has never held an assault rifle in his hands.
Those are usually the best experts   :)

unlike you I have not held another mans cock in my hands


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: magikusar on December 11, 2012, 02:28:38 PM
solution is simple:

end debt spending

don't let politicians spend more and more

this is the genius of the us const, it limits government, which is how you have everyone get rich including poor, and why usa is far far far no 1 and far far the highest standard of living if you work 40 hours producitvely 

no contest

people when they feel paycheck shrink and house tax bill up hate gov spending

now the trick is debt spend and let inflation quietly make everyone poor

you know when prices go down, as they anturally do under capitalism, everyone get richer?

wilson let this happpen aas democrat n cronies screamed in 1800s and had huge purchasing power rise for poor n common man


demscrats screamed murder

but everyoen got richer by a LOT


the reason prices climb is government spending which is wasted money given to nonproducers

when money changes hands without production ahppening everyone get poorer

this is why lawyers so bad, move money without producing anything, and why repalcing lawyer with software is awesome idea


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: _bruce_ on December 11, 2012, 02:40:52 PM
switzerland has bilateral treatys with eu, its basically the same as a membership.

everyone sees how its slowly but steadily going down the shitter.

But the parts of the treaty must be agreed on by both parties so Sweezzlaland can say no to certain things.
Just chill on the Julius Bär's property - to not forget a nice hat for the coins and smile when you flex.


Title: Re: Europe -- It seems gemany is winning this debt war, even if lost ww1+2 to usa
Post by: magikusar on December 11, 2012, 03:50:00 PM
racism is strongly rooted with them. that coupled with intense racist cooperatoin they sue others for is why they often reach medium in the social ladder and get wealth the didn't earn.

fixed