So last year a study conducted by a bi-partisan reserach group found that FOX in fact provided more disinformation then any other network at a two to one rate.
A now recent study have found that you are actually more informed if you watch no news at all then if you watch fox. How bizzare is that?
the average fox viewer is 65. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988273?refCatId=1275
You have moronic anchors like Bill O'reilly saying retarded things like you can't explain the tides, Murdoch is the most currupt fuck ever and this past week then even made up a news story, falsifying a driving simulator to tar MJ and driving. They used a simulator for 18 wheelers, and forced an accident after a period of time, sometimes with other vehicles swerving into the vehicle.
My question is, this is just some of the non-sense, but it's apparent they are the worst of the worst, why in hell do people support them. Despite being a right/left winger, surely there are better sources of accurate info.
This is no new news. We have known this for a while. Now watch all the FAUX delusion-ists rush in and defend their source of marching orders.
So last year a study conducted by a bi-partisan reserach group found that FOX in fact provided more disinformation then any other network at a two to one rate.
A now recent study have found that you are actually more informed if you watch no news at all then if you watch fox. How bizzare is that?
the average fox viewer is 65. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988273?refCatId=1275
You have moronic anchors like Bill O'reilly saying retarded things like you can't explain the tides, Murdoch is the most currupt fuck ever and this past week then even made up a news story, falsifying a driving simulator to tar MJ and driving. They used a simulator for 18 wheelers, and forced an accident after a period of time, sometimes with other vehicles swerving into the vehicle.
My question is, this is just some of the non-sense, but it's apparent they are the worst of the worst, why in hell do people support them. Despite being a right/left winger, surely there are better sources of accurate info.
What's not new news is lefties, obsessing over Fox News, regardless of the outcome of an election.
Then, let's see cable news produce such. CNN and MSNBC have been getting CRUSHED for over a decade. What's their excuse?
What's not new news is lefties, obsessing over Fox News, regardless of the outcome of an election.
Then, let's see cable news produce such. CNN and MSNBC have been getting CRUSHED for over a decade. What's their excuse?
Whats your take on the links/articles about FOX?
So you are suggesting ratings= truth? that is the logical endpoint of your argument. While it does not and while it is in fact a logical fallacy are the tides now turning?
Your first point is a strawman, I am not obsessing nor am I a lefty. I am just pointing out that Fox news appears to be vilely corrupt, dividing a country and pandering to old men.
fox lied to these morons before the election,and they still drink the kool-aid priceless :D :D :D :D :D
O-Kenya lies to his cult following every day and they still eat it up no?
YAAAAAAWWWWNNN!! Articles like this have been popping for years, usually from liberal magazines, citing studies from liberal colleges.
If you don't like Fox News, then either watch something else or produce a better product. Many of these studies are little more than sour grapes, regarding the left's inability to do the latter, on cable TV.
Your disdain for facts and the scientific method come through nicely here. Are you suggesting that you cannot detect bias in studies nor view the methodolgy. Your claim is easy to dismiss if one was to read a paper.
NOPE!! Check the rating since the election. It's business as usual: Fox News, towering over MSNBC and CNN. The only difference now is that MSNBC has dropped the pretense of objectivity and has come out full-bore as a leftist network.
I must have missed that, based on all of your threads about MSNBC and CNN, and their "lies" and their being "vilely corrupt". ::)
stay on topic
As for Fox, supposedly pandering to old men, I guess you missed the fact that they've dominated those other two cable news network, ACROSS THE BOARD, even in the 25-54 age group. This is especially true for O'Reilly's show.
O'reilly is the only one not going downhill. Regardless my claim still stands.
But, don't take my word for it.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/12/04/cable-news-ratings-for-monday-december-3-2012/160168/
Your disdain for facts and the scientific method come through nicely here. Are you suggesting that you cannot detect bias in studies nor view the methodolgy. Your claim is easy to dismiss if one was to read a paper.
O'reilly is the only one not going downhill. Regardless my claim still stands.
So last year a study conducted by a bi-partisan reserach group found that FOX in fact provided more disinformation then any other network at a two to one rate.
A now recent study have found that you are actually more informed if you watch no news at all then if you watch fox. How bizzare is that?
the average fox viewer is 65. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988273?refCatId=1275
You have moronic anchors like Bill O'reilly saying retarded things like you can't explain the tides, Murdoch is the most currupt fuck ever and this past week then even made up a news story, falsifying a driving simulator to tar MJ and driving. They used a simulator for 18 wheelers, and forced an accident after a period of time, sometimes with other vehicles swerving into the vehicle.
My question is, this is just some of the non-sense, but it's apparent they are the worst of the worst, why in hell do people support them. Despite being a right/left winger, surely there are better sources of accurate info.
FOX NEWS is shameless...they are like 3333..they turn every news story into an anti-obama rant......if someone gets into a car accident they will report it and then the next segment will have a story about how Obama cut highway funds and this could have led to the accident... :D
I have started to watch MSNBC since the election...I love Rachel Maddow...shes funny and makes boring topics really fun...but MSNBC is a full-blown Liberal network....they rarely even have a Republican or conservative on there...just peoiple from the left and the far-left :D
Gays typically love her I hear.
Gays typically love her I hear.
you like her ??? :D :D :D
This is no new news. We have known this for a while. Now watch all the FAUX delusion-ists rush in and defend their source of marching orders.
As noted in prior postings.
And, as noted in prior postings, there's nothing news about libs, whining about Fox News, no matter how a particular election turns out or how the other cable news network continue to get beat.
Are you denying they distort the facts?
they all do it, cnn, fox, msnbc, etc.
I didn't ask about others. I specifically asked MCWAY about FOX.
Every news station do, but I am asking MCWAY whether he thinks FOX does it or not.
If every news station does, why are you, Necrosis, and Blacken seemingly obsessed with Fox?
I've yet to see any of you make threads about the other cable news networks.
To answer your question, I believe Fox has goofed up at times, distorting certain facts. They're human, after all.
But, Fox has also been right on the money in many other areas, often carrying stories that the other networks try to bury, until Fox makes such a ruckus that they're forced to address the issue.
To answer your question, I believe Fox has goofed up at times, distorting certain facts. They're human, after all.
I already they did. But that isn't what I am asking you.
Now you admit that FOX distorts the news. So how many viewers does FOX have compared to the other networks?
Do you think it was an accident when they listed disgraced repubs are (D) in the header all those times?
Or when they "accidentally" dug up campaign footage from the year 2000 which made mccain'd crowds appear much larger in 2008? I mean, a "goof"? Some research kid had to pull up tape from 8 years earlier, mix it into the new footage, and coincidentailly it helped mccain. a Goof? lol... can't we just all agree these media outlets do this shit on purpose?
Try that again. I qualified that by saying they goofed up at times, meaning that (for their most part) their distortions are not intentional.
That is NOT my admitting that "FOX distorts the news", meaning being done by design as a standard practice.
We all know that Fox News has more viewers that MSNBC and CNN (combined, perhaps). But, that's not the entire issue here. If the other cable news networks do it, then shouldn't they all be called to task, just on principle?
But, you don't do that and neither do Blacken, Necrosis, et. al. I wonder why!
For example, when MSNBC was advancing the narrative on George Zimmerman as an evil racist white dude (even though he's Hispanic), preying on an innocent teddy bear of a black teen, Trayvon Martin, and doctored a 911 tape to that end, I don't recall you guys ripping the network for that.
Ok, we didn't get anywhere. Let's try this again. Rather than jumping to conclusions about our conversation, let's just answer the question. Just a simple yes or no.
Does FOX distort news? Yes or No?
Ok, we didn't get anywhere. Let's try this again. Rather than jumping to conclusions about our conversation, let's just answer the question. Just a simple yes or no.
Does FOX distort news? Yes or No?
they all do it, cnn, fox, msnbc, etc.
WE? You have a mouse in your pocket or something?
Why don't YOU try answering a question (since I already answered yours earlier)? If the other cable news networks do it, then shouldn't they all be called to task, just on principle? But for some reason, you don't do that and focus solely on Fox. WHY?
you're crazy
Yes. (They should)
See how easy that was to answer yes or no? What else would you like me to answer?
Lets try this again because you keep avoiding the question, so again, where is the link to this "research group"? Honest to God, is it even POSSIBLE for a lib to tell the truth??
How about the other half of that question:
But for some reason, you don't do that and focus solely on Fox. WHY?
Try that on for size, first.
I can have them in a second, this is a discussion on a news station that is the worst of the offendors.
How about the other half of that question:
But for some reason, you don't do that and focus solely on Fox. WHY?
Try that on for size, first.
There is a reason that I am asking you this. One that makes sense and one we can get to if you simply answer the question. I already said the others do it. But this isn't about the others, this is about FOX.
Again :
Does FOX distort the news?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No
because unlike you I see things in shades not black and white. While bias is obvious in all media, Fox downright lies, making up stuff. Look at the driving simulator, that's bullshit.
They have news contributors working directly for Romney during his campaign, they are found in study after study of all major news outlets as the worst offendors and not by a small margin. You see if someone tells one lie it's something everyone does. If all that person does is lie then it's pathological, that's fox, they are pathological news. They have negative effects on it's viewers, namely on major issues as study after study, survey after survey elucidate.
So Mcway, by defending the worst offendors with an argument that others offend also you are in fact a communist.
And there is a reason I am asking you my question, one that makes sense if you simply answer the question.
There's a difference between merely acknowledging that other networks do such (which most of us already know) and your specifically answering why (on principle) you keep your mouth shut about the other networks yet continue to bellyache about Fox News.
Again,
But for some reason, you don't do that and focus solely on Fox. WHY?
WTF? I have already said on this very thread on more than one occasion that the others do the same thing. Are you blind? Did you miss that or is this just a lame attempt at trying to avoid answering a simple question?
Does FOX distort the news? Yes or no?
what does rush or hannity say on this subject :D :D
Perhaps, you need Braille.
You're the one avoiding answering a simple question. I didn't ask you if others simply did the same thing. I asked you specifically WHY you continue to call Fox News out on the carpet, even starting threads about it or actively piling on to someone else's thread, while becoming virtually MUTE, when the other networks do such.
If every news station does, why are you, Necrosis, and Blacken seemingly obsessed with Fox?
I've yet to see any of you make threads about the other cable news networks.
To answer your question, I believe Fox has goofed up at times, distorting certain facts. They're human, after all.
But, Fox has also been right on the money in many other areas, often carrying stories that the other networks try to bury, until Fox makes such a ruckus that they're forced to address the issue.
Most things are in black and white. That's why the relatively few grey areas need to be addressed with care.
not in real life
Again, I didn't hear you, yapping about the George Zimmerman case. Did you call MSNBC out for editing the tape? Did you blast Sharpton for promoting this propaganda DIRECTLY on his show?
irrelevant
MSNBC had news contributors working directly for Obama during his campaign. The major news outlets are run by LIBERALS...HELLOOOO!!!! You think they wouldn't have a bone to pick with the one network that doesn't bow before Obama, as they do?
who?
BTW, what are these so-called "negative effects"?
misinformation, actually being less informed had they never watched fox news.
Hogwash!! If something is WRONG, then it's wrong across the board. By defending others who engage in the same activity with an argument that the other guys who do it have a bigger audience, you are not only a hypocrite; but, you fall under that old adage that liberals believe rules are for everybody.......ELSE.
Not true, there are degrees of wrongness, see the legal system or use that thing you may have in your head.
MSNBC and CNN can "distort" news to their hearts' content, simply because their audience is much smaller than that of Fox News? They can have contributors who are working on political campaigns, as long as they work for Dems?
well golly hell another strawman, can you argue without misrepresenting your opponent?
You cannot be this misguided. Then again.....
Says the guy who couldn't have been more wrong on the election, who supports fox news and who believes in talking snakes and worldwide floods ::)
WHERE IS THIS "RESEARCH" LINK
Im still laughing ma azz off about election nite on fox news. They were stunned...their faces were hilarious. They really believed their on bullshit and then the topper was karl rove going rogue and making shit up again......Hilarious.
They build their little bubble and are afraid to look out from it.....pure comedy over there.
Rachel maddow usually has the facts and lays it out for you....btw
100% agreed
The food stamps and ebt cards are still getting funded. Of course the usual mooks are fat dumb and happy.
funny how you leave out all of the millions of white people who receive these benefits as well
not in real life
irrelevant
who?
misinformation, actually being less informed had they never watched fox news.
Not true, there are degrees of wrongness, see the legal system or use that thing you may have in your head.
well golly hell another strawman, can you argue without misrepresenting your opponent?
Says the guy who couldn't have been more wrong on the election, who supports fox news and who believes in talking snakes and worldwide floods
liberal bias reported.
Sure it is in real life. It's simply that, more often than not, the black or white answer isn't to the liking of many libs. So, they claim it's grey when it really isn't.
claim it all you want but one of the fallacies of CBT is all or nothing thinking, it just isn't true. read a book
Hardly!! The message from your ends apparently is: "Lies" by MSNBC/CNN....not so bad. "Lies" by Fox News....HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE, ABSOLUTELY VILE!!
not at all, another strawman
Try Sharpton, for starters. Not to mention the former CEO (and current minority owner) of the network is in Obama's cabinet
fair enough
Hardly!! In fact, many Fox News viewers often have a leg up on those watching those other stations. Remember that whole "Memo-Gate" thing? Why do you think it was so easy to expose Rather for the hack he was, which ultimately got him fired from CBS?
Remember the whole Muslim Brotherhood issue with Egypt?
Imagine that! Lefties are actually shocked at all the foolishness, going on there (as in stuff that certain Fox pundits covered and saw coming almost A YEAR in advance).
studies cite the opposite, your cherry picked examples fall flat when objective data disputes you
That's degrees of PUNISHMENT, not degrees of "wrongness". Try taking your own advice and use that thing in YOUR head.
again refer to the legal system, you are incorrect.So they have different degrees of punishment for equal wrongness since there are no degrees of wrongness? ya real rational there Mcway
Stealing is wrong, period. There are varying degrees of punishment, based on the value of what was taken. But, the principle is the same. Plus, as is usually the case, such activity always stars off small and grows gradually. You don't go from stealing candy to carjacking.
again, this is incorrect, stealing is not always wrong. It's not black and white. Also, see above.
Not even close to a strawman. You're mush-mouthed about MSNBC and CNN. But, you yelp your brains out about Fox News, unless I missed all the threads you made about those other two networks. Maybe you should bump them. ::)
this thread isn't about any station but Fox, you are simply deflecting.
Talk about strawman. This has zilch to do with the subject at hand. But, it's to be expected from the guy who also believes in talking snakes, namely the one who currently sits in the White House. ;D
It indicates your level of critical thinking, It's germane to any debate.
Those greesy hillbillys are no better than the ghetto tax sponges on the Grand Concourse
Lol, I knew it was some lib bias "research" group.otherwise you would have posted it..your credibility is worse than Obamas, if that's at all possible.
I guess every one who lives on the Grand Concourse is ghetto to you huh
If every news station does, why are you, Necrosis, and Blacken seemingly obsessed with Fox?
I've yet to see any of you make threads about the other cable news networks.
To answer your question, I believe Fox has goofed up at times, distorting certain facts. They're human, after all.
But, Fox has also been right on the money in many other areas, often carrying stories that the other networks try to bury, until Fox makes such a ruckus that they're forced to address the issue.
Ever see what the heck hangs around on the porches and corners on the Concourse lately?
porches????.....you idiot..there are hardly any houses on the Grand concourse...you're still living in the 1950's
Only FOX feed blatant lies Mcway.
I dont watch the news station you mentioned but if they all do it please post an link or example it should be easy to find. Othervise GTFO.
The food stamps and ebt cards are still getting funded. Of course the usual mooks are fat dumb and happy.
Oh I meant to stoops :P :P
Freudian Slip....you were probably thinking about "porch monkeys".. :D :D
If that was what i was thinking i would have said so. :P
We have established two things here.
1 - All news outlet distort news to a varying degree.
2 - FOX has more viewers than the other news outlet combined. (As the claim was made earlier)
Therefore, according to Ryan Math, FOX has more misinformed viewers walking around due to their deliberate distortion of the news than the other media outlets combined. Nice work FAUX.
when you throw in the ones that get their news from rush and hannity and you have the perfect storm :D :D :D
We have established two things here.
1 - All news outlet distort news to a varying degree.
2 - FOX has more viewers than the other news outlet combined. (As the claim was made earlier)
Therefore, according to Ryan Math, FOX has more misinformed viewers walking around due to their deliberate distortion of the news than the other media outlets combined. Nice work FAUX.
No different than those who listen to Rachel MadCOW or Fat Ed or the other commies on MSNBC
No different than those who listen to Rachel MadCOW or Fat Ed or the other commies on MSNBC
No different than those who listen to Rachel MadCOW or Fat Ed or the other commies on MSNBC
what's with changing their names,that's like a 12 year old thing
So last year a study conducted by a bi-partisan reserach group found that FOX in fact provided more disinformation then any other network at a two to one rate.
A now recent study have found that you are actually more informed if you watch no news at all then if you watch fox. How bizzare is that?
the average fox viewer is 65. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988273?refCatId=1275
You have moronic anchors like Bill O'reilly saying retarded things like you can't explain the tides, Murdoch is the most currupt fuck ever and this past week then even made up a news story, falsifying a driving simulator to tar MJ and driving. They used a simulator for 18 wheelers, and forced an accident after a period of time, sometimes with other vehicles swerving into the vehicle.
My question is, this is just some of the non-sense, but it's apparent they are the worst of the worst, why in hell do people support them. Despite being a right/left winger, surely there are better sources of accurate info.
Link with blatant lies or GTFO
We can start here..
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2012/06/05/maddow-vents-about-romney-deceit-after-she-lies-about-wisconsin-recal
http://www.newstalk1160.com/rachel-maddow-lies-again-politifact-whacks-her-again-this-time-on-rick-perry-tax-plan
http://www.nationalreview.com/media-blog/331525/rachel-maddow-lies-david-letterman-auto-bailout-greg-pollowitz#
newsbusters? exposing liberal bias on the top of the page, let me guess a repub outlet right?
where's the research.
i listen to these msn shows (not so much since election) and i like Rush, hannity during day.
they're probably about the same in terms of "everyone jump to an over-reaction, based upon race and emotion!!"
We can start here..
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2012/06/05/maddow-vents-about-romney-deceit-after-she-lies-about-wisconsin-recal
http://www.newstalk1160.com/rachel-maddow-lies-again-politifact-whacks-her-again-this-time-on-rick-perry-tax-plan
http://www.nationalreview.com/media-blog/331525/rachel-maddow-lies-david-letterman-auto-bailout-greg-pollowitz#
Yes thats the same as fake poll numbers, blatant lies, fake pictures etc etc.. ::)
I actually thought you would be able to find at least 1 blatant lie since they represent the other wing but it looks like you cant.
The original link said FOX was 2 times worse than its counterparts, looks like its way more.
Ya. Its great when he screams for legitimate links and put's this crap up..lmao
Ya. Its great when he screams for legitimate links and put's this crap up..lmao
"tell me what i want to hear or I won't believe it"
-everyone on this board
Hahaha, again. Is it wrong? is it any wonder why this country is fucked with backwards liberal thinking and zero commonsense?
Im still laughing ma azz off about election nite on fox news. They were stunned...their faces were hilarious. They really believed their on bullshit and then the topper was karl rove going rogue and making shit up again......Hilarious.
They build their little bubble and are afraid to look out from it.....pure comedy over there.
Rachel maddow usually has the facts and lays it out for you....btw
I actually thought he would be able to find something.
Either he is slow or they are even more honest compared to FOX than i thought.
Only FOX feed blatant lies Mcway.
I dont watch the news station you mentioned but if they all do it please post an link or example it should be easy to find. Othervise GTFO.
According to you its wrong. "sources matter". Post legitimate links or stfu about someone elses links......typical hypocrite gop thinking.
If you don't watch those news stations, how in the world can you claim that "only FOX feed blatant lies"?
And apparently, you missed the face I already cited an example, regarding the other networks: The doctored 911 tape in the Zimmerman-Martin case, courtesy of (MS)NBC.
If you don't watch those news stations, how in the world can you claim that "only FOX feed blatant lies"?
And apparently, you missed the face I already cited an example, regarding the other networks: The doctored 911 tape in the Zimmerman-Martin case, courtesy of (MS)NBC.