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Title: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Necrosis on December 10, 2012, 05:48:11 AM
So last year a study conducted by a bi-partisan reserach group found that FOX in fact provided more disinformation then any other network at a two to one rate.

A now recent study have found that you are actually more informed if you watch no news at all then if you watch fox. How bizzare is that?

the average fox viewer is 65. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988273?refCatId=1275

You have moronic anchors like Bill O'reilly saying retarded things like you can't explain the tides, Murdoch is the most currupt fuck ever and this past week then even made up a news story, falsifying a driving simulator to tar MJ and driving. They used a simulator for 18 wheelers, and forced an accident after a period of time, sometimes with other vehicles swerving into the vehicle.

My question is, this is just some of the non-sense, but it's apparent they are the worst of the worst, why in hell do people support them. Despite being a right/left winger, surely there are better sources of accurate info.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 10, 2012, 05:48:51 AM
Go back to bed

So last year a study conducted by a bi-partisan reserach group found that FOX in fact provided more disinformation then any other network at a two to one rate.

A now recent study have found that you are actually more informed if you watch no news at all then if you watch fox. How bizzare is that?

the average fox viewer is 65. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988273?refCatId=1275

You have moronic anchors like Bill O'reilly saying retarded things like you can't explain the tides, Murdoch is the most currupt fuck ever and this past week then even made up a news story, falsifying a driving simulator to tar MJ and driving. They used a simulator for 18 wheelers, and forced an accident after a period of time, sometimes with other vehicles swerving into the vehicle.

My question is, this is just some of the non-sense, but it's apparent they are the worst of the worst, why in hell do people support them. Despite being a right/left winger, surely there are better sources of accurate info.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Necrosis on December 10, 2012, 05:57:46 AM
http://www.alternet.org/story/149193/study_confirms_that_fox_news_makes_you_stupid/

another one. lol. Didn't see this one.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 10, 2012, 07:09:27 AM
they're all biased and corrupt.  we can argue this or that, who is more corrupt... but to me, a scumbag is a scumbag.  A killer is a killer, whether he has one dead hooker in his trunk, or a dozen.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 10, 2012, 07:17:15 AM
This is no new news.  We have known this for a while.  Now watch all the FAUX delusion-ists rush in and defend their source of marching orders.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: MCWAY on December 10, 2012, 08:13:17 AM
This is no new news.  We have known this for a while.  Now watch all the FAUX delusion-ists rush in and defend their source of marching orders.

What's not new news is lefties, obsessing over Fox News, regardless of the outcome of an election.

So last year a study conducted by a bi-partisan reserach group found that FOX in fact provided more disinformation then any other network at a two to one rate.

A now recent study have found that you are actually more informed if you watch no news at all then if you watch fox. How bizzare is that?

the average fox viewer is 65. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988273?refCatId=1275

You have moronic anchors like Bill O'reilly saying retarded things like you can't explain the tides, Murdoch is the most currupt fuck ever and this past week then even made up a news story, falsifying a driving simulator to tar MJ and driving. They used a simulator for 18 wheelers, and forced an accident after a period of time, sometimes with other vehicles swerving into the vehicle.

My question is, this is just some of the non-sense, but it's apparent they are the worst of the worst, why in hell do people support them. Despite being a right/left winger, surely there are better sources of accurate info.

Then, let's see cable news produce such. CNN and MSNBC have been getting CRUSHED for over a decade. What's their excuse?



Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: whork on December 10, 2012, 08:33:08 AM
What's not new news is lefties, obsessing over Fox News, regardless of the outcome of an election.

Then, let's see cable news produce such. CNN and MSNBC have been getting CRUSHED for over a decade. What's their excuse?



Whats your take on the links/articles about FOX?


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Necrosis on December 10, 2012, 08:35:38 AM
What's not new news is lefties, obsessing over Fox News, regardless of the outcome of an election.

Then, let's see cable news produce such. CNN and MSNBC have been getting CRUSHED for over a decade. What's their excuse?



So you are suggesting ratings= truth? that is the logical endpoint of your argument. While it does not and while it is in fact a logical fallacy are the tides now turning?

Your first point is a strawman, I am not obsessing nor am I a lefty. I am just pointing out that Fox news appears to be vilely corrupt, dividing a country and pandering to old men.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: blacken700 on December 10, 2012, 08:39:37 AM
old men and the weak minds ;D


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: MCWAY on December 10, 2012, 08:45:11 AM
Whats your take on the links/articles about FOX?

YAAAAAAWWWWNNN!! Articles like this have been popping for years, usually from liberal magazines, citing studies from liberal colleges.

If you don't like Fox News, then either watch something else or produce a better product. Many of these studies are little more than sour grapes, regarding the left's inability to do the latter, on cable TV.

So you are suggesting ratings= truth? that is the logical endpoint of your argument. While it does not and while it is in fact a logical fallacy are the tides now turning?

NOPE!! Check the rating since the election. It's business as usual: Fox News, towering over MSNBC and CNN. The only difference now is that MSNBC has dropped the pretense of objectivity and has come out full-bore as a leftist network.




Your first point is a strawman, I am not obsessing nor am I a lefty. I am just pointing out that Fox news appears to be vilely corrupt, dividing a country and pandering to old men.

I must have missed that, based on all of your threads about MSNBC and CNN, and their "lies" and their being "vilely corrupt".  ::)

As for Fox, supposedly pandering to old men, I guess you missed the fact that they've dominated those other two cable news network, ACROSS THE BOARD, even in the 25-54 age group. This is especially true for O'Reilly's show.

But, don't take my word for it.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/12/04/cable-news-ratings-for-monday-december-3-2012/160168/


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: blacken700 on December 10, 2012, 08:50:26 AM
fox lied to these morons before the election,and they still drink the kool-aid   priceless :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 10, 2012, 08:51:30 AM
fox lied to these morons before the election,and they still drink the kool-aid   priceless :D :D :D :D :D

O-Kenya lies to his cult following every day and they still eat it up no?


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: blacken700 on December 10, 2012, 08:56:28 AM
O-Kenya lies to his cult following every day and they still eat it up no?

you believed everything they told you,will you ever learn :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfLcC1o85bo


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Necrosis on December 10, 2012, 09:24:32 AM
YAAAAAAWWWWNNN!! Articles like this have been popping for years, usually from liberal magazines, citing studies from liberal colleges.

If you don't like Fox News, then either watch something else or produce a better product. Many of these studies are little more than sour grapes, regarding the left's inability to do the latter, on cable TV.


Your disdain for facts and the scientific method come through nicely here. Are you suggesting that you cannot detect bias in studies nor view the methodolgy. Your claim is easy to dismiss if one was to read a paper.

NOPE!! Check the rating since the election. It's business as usual: Fox News, towering over MSNBC and CNN. The only difference now is that MSNBC has dropped the pretense of objectivity and has come out full-bore as a leftist network.



I must have missed that, based on all of your threads about MSNBC and CNN, and their "lies" and their being "vilely corrupt".  ::)

stay on topic

As for Fox, supposedly pandering to old men, I guess you missed the fact that they've dominated those other two cable news network, ACROSS THE BOARD, even in the 25-54 age group. This is especially true for O'Reilly's show.

O'reilly is the only one not going downhill. Regardless my claim still stands.

But, don't take my word for it.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/12/04/cable-news-ratings-for-monday-december-3-2012/160168/



Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: MCWAY on December 10, 2012, 09:41:29 AM
Your disdain for facts and the scientific method come through nicely here. Are you suggesting that you cannot detect bias in studies nor view the methodolgy. Your claim is easy to dismiss if one was to read a paper.

I have no disdain for facts.

FACT: Fox News has been clobbering CNN and MSNBC for over a decade.

FACT: Lefties have been wailing about that for nearly as long, regardless of the outcomes of elections (one way or the other).

To that end, these studies have popped up. Maybe if liberals put half the effort into producing a cable news network that they do bashing Fox News, they'd get the product they seek.

O'reilly is the only one not going downhill. Regardless my claim still stands.


And, your claims still falls.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: andreisdaman on December 10, 2012, 09:55:03 AM
FOX NEWS is shameless...they are like 3333..they turn every news story into an anti-obama rant......if someone gets into a car accident they will report it and then the next segment will have a story about how Obama cut highway funds and this could have led to the accident... :D

I have started to watch MSNBC since the election...I love Rachel Maddow...shes funny and makes boring topics really fun...but MSNBC is a full-blown Liberal network....they rarely even have a Republican or conservative on there...just peoiple from the left and the far-left :D


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2012, 09:56:49 AM
So last year a study conducted by a bi-partisan reserach group found that FOX in fact provided more disinformation then any other network at a two to one rate.

A now recent study have found that you are actually more informed if you watch no news at all then if you watch fox. How bizzare is that?

the average fox viewer is 65. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988273?refCatId=1275

You have moronic anchors like Bill O'reilly saying retarded things like you can't explain the tides, Murdoch is the most currupt fuck ever and this past week then even made up a news story, falsifying a driving simulator to tar MJ and driving. They used a simulator for 18 wheelers, and forced an accident after a period of time, sometimes with other vehicles swerving into the vehicle.

My question is, this is just some of the non-sense, but it's apparent they are the worst of the worst, why in hell do people support them. Despite being a right/left winger, surely there are better sources of accurate info.

So I guess since FOX were the one's to break Bengazi (that you don't see on other networks) it's a lie that never happend? $1000 says that "research" group is bias as fuck. Just like when people use "factcheck" that George Soros has use it for a source of "facts".


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2012, 09:58:45 AM
Whats the name of this "research" group? You conveniently left that out ::)


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 10, 2012, 09:58:54 AM
FOX NEWS is shameless...they are like 3333..they turn every news story into an anti-obama rant......if someone gets into a car accident they will report it and then the next segment will have a story about how Obama cut highway funds and this could have led to the accident... :D

I have started to watch MSNBC since the election...I love Rachel Maddow...shes funny and makes boring topics really fun...but MSNBC is a full-blown Liberal network....they rarely even have a Republican or conservative on there...just peoiple from the left and the far-left :D

Gays typically love her I hear.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2012, 10:01:56 AM
Gays typically love her I hear.

Because she looks like a little boy?


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: blacken700 on December 10, 2012, 10:02:39 AM
Gays typically love her I hear.


you like her  ???   :D :D :D


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 10, 2012, 10:04:20 AM

you like her  ???   :D :D :D


Maybe to imagine tossing her off the Hoover Dam. 


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 10, 2012, 10:33:51 AM
This is no new news.  We have known this for a while.  Now watch all the FAUX delusion-ists rush in and defend their source of marching orders.

As noted in prior postings.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: blacken700 on December 10, 2012, 10:39:19 AM
they have to be right they're number 1  :D :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: MCWAY on December 10, 2012, 10:43:16 AM
As noted in prior postings.

And, as noted in prior postings, there's nothing news about libs, whining about Fox News, no matter how a particular election turns out or how the other cable news network continue to get beat.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 10, 2012, 10:46:12 AM
And, as noted in prior postings, there's nothing news about libs, whining about Fox News, no matter how a particular election turns out or how the other cable news network continue to get beat.

Are you denying they distort the facts?


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 10, 2012, 10:47:02 AM
Are you denying they distort the facts?

they all do it, cnn, fox, msnbc, etc. 


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 10, 2012, 10:51:52 AM
they all do it, cnn, fox, msnbc, etc. 

I didn't ask about others.  I specifically asked MCWAY about FOX.

Every news station do, but I am asking MCWAY whether he thinks FOX does it or not.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: blacken700 on December 10, 2012, 10:54:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn7_8QL2weQ


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: MCWAY on December 10, 2012, 10:55:44 AM
I didn't ask about others.  I specifically asked MCWAY about FOX.

Every news station do, but I am asking MCWAY whether he thinks FOX does it or not.

If every news station does, why are you, Necrosis, and Blacken seemingly obsessed with Fox?

I've yet to see any of you make threads about the other cable news networks.

To answer your question, I believe Fox has goofed up at times, distorting certain facts. They're human, after all.

But, Fox has also been right on the money in many other areas, often carrying stories that the other networks try to bury, until Fox makes such a ruckus that they're forced to address the issue.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 10, 2012, 11:09:37 AM
If every news station does, why are you, Necrosis, and Blacken seemingly obsessed with Fox?

I've yet to see any of you make threads about the other cable news networks.

To answer your question, I believe Fox has goofed up at times, distorting certain facts. They're human, after all.

But, Fox has also been right on the money in many other areas, often carrying stories that the other networks try to bury, until Fox makes such a ruckus that they're forced to address the issue.

I already they did.  But that isn't what I am asking you.


Now you admit that FOX distorts the news.  So how many viewers does FOX have compared to the other networks?


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 10, 2012, 11:15:51 AM
To answer your question, I believe Fox has goofed up at times, distorting certain facts. They're human, after all.

Do you think it was an accident when they listed disgraced repubs are (D) in the header all those times?

Or when they "accidentally" dug up campaign footage from the year 2000 which made mccain'd crowds appear much larger in 2008?   I mean, a "goof"?  Some research kid had to pull up tape from 8 years earlier, mix it into the new footage, and coincidentailly it helped mccain.  a Goof?   lol... can't we just all agree these media outlets do this shit on purpose?


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: MCWAY on December 10, 2012, 11:17:10 AM
I already they did.  But that isn't what I am asking you.


Now you admit that FOX distorts the news.  So how many viewers does FOX have compared to the other networks?

Try that again. I qualified that by saying they goofed up at times, meaning that (for their most part) their distortions are not intentional.

That is NOT my admitting that "FOX distorts the news", meaning being done by design as a standard practice.

We all know that Fox News has more viewers that MSNBC and CNN (combined, perhaps). But, that's not the entire issue here. If the other cable news networks do it, then shouldn't they all be called to task, just on principle?

But, you don't do that and neither do Blacken, Necrosis, et. al. I wonder why!

For example, when MSNBC was advancing the narrative on George Zimmerman as an evil racist white dude (even though he's Hispanic), preying on an innocent teddy bear of a black teen, Trayvon Martin, and doctored a 911 tape to that end,  I don't recall you guys ripping the network for that.



Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: blacken700 on December 10, 2012, 11:17:17 AM
Do you think it was an accident when they listed disgraced repubs are (D) in the header all those times?

Or when they "accidentally" dug up campaign footage from the year 2000 which made mccain'd crowds appear much larger in 2008?   I mean, a "goof"?  Some research kid had to pull up tape from 8 years earlier, mix it into the new footage, and coincidentailly it helped mccain.  a Goof?   lol... can't we just all agree these media outlets do this shit on purpose?

rush and hannity said so ,so it has to be true


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2012, 11:21:47 AM
Lets try this again because you keep avoiding the question, so again, where is the link to this "research group"? Honest to God, is it even POSSIBLE for a lib to tell the truth??


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 10, 2012, 11:21:58 AM
Try that again. I qualified that by saying they goofed up at times, meaning that (for their most part) their distortions are not intentional.

That is NOT my admitting that "FOX distorts the news", meaning being done by design as a standard practice.

We all know that Fox News has more viewers that MSNBC and CNN (combined, perhaps). But, that's not the entire issue here. If the other cable news networks do it, then shouldn't they all be called to task, just on principle?

But, you don't do that and neither do Blacken, Necrosis, et. al. I wonder why!

For example, when MSNBC was advancing the narrative on George Zimmerman as an evil racist white dude (even though he's Hispanic), preying on an innocent teddy bear of a black teen, Trayvon Martin, and doctored a 911 tape to that end,  I don't recall you guys ripping the network for that.




Ok, we didn't get anywhere.  Let's try this again.  Rather than jumping to conclusions about our conversation, let's just answer the question.  Just a simple yes or no.

Does FOX distort news?  Yes or No?


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2012, 11:25:46 AM

Ok, we didn't get anywhere.  Let's try this again.  Rather than jumping to conclusions about our conversation, let's just answer the question.  Just a simple yes or no.

Does FOX distort news?  Yes or No?

Why does MSNBC, CNN, NBC, CBS and other liberal ran networks insist on covering up Obama, Rice, Clinton being an accessory to murder?


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: MCWAY on December 10, 2012, 11:27:24 AM

Ok, we didn't get anywhere.  Let's try this again.  Rather than jumping to conclusions about our conversation, let's just answer the question.  Just a simple yes or no.

Does FOX distort news?  Yes or No?

WE? You have a mouse in your pocket or something?

Why don't YOU try answering a question (since I already answered yours earlier)? If the other cable news networks do it, then shouldn't they all be called to task, just on principle? But for some reason, you don't do that and focus solely on Fox. WHY?




Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: andreisdaman on December 10, 2012, 11:28:42 AM
they all do it, cnn, fox, msnbc, etc. 

you're crazy


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 10, 2012, 12:21:35 PM
WE? You have a mouse in your pocket or something?

Why don't YOU try answering a question (since I already answered yours earlier)? If the other cable news networks do it, then shouldn't they all be called to task, just on principle? But for some reason, you don't do that and focus solely on Fox. WHY?




Yes.   (They should)

See how easy that was to answer yes or no?  What else would you like me to answer?

Now a specific question - does FOX distort the news.  Just a yes or no please.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 10, 2012, 12:23:48 PM
you're crazy

Rules? 


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: MCWAY on December 10, 2012, 12:28:25 PM
Yes.   (They should)

See how easy that was to answer yes or no?  What else would you like me to answer?

How about the other half of that question:
But for some reason, you don't do that and focus solely on Fox. WHY?

Try that on for size, first.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Necrosis on December 10, 2012, 12:30:16 PM
Lets try this again because you keep avoiding the question, so again, where is the link to this "research group"? Honest to God, is it even POSSIBLE for a lib to tell the truth??

I can have them in a second, this is a discussion on a news station that is the worst of the offendors.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 10, 2012, 12:30:56 PM
How about the other half of that question:
But for some reason, you don't do that and focus solely on Fox. WHY?

Try that on for size, first.

There is a reason that I am asking you this.  One that makes sense and one we can get to if you simply answer the question.  I already said the others do it.  But this isn't about the others, this is about FOX.

Again :

Does FOX distort the news?

[ ] Yes
[ ] No


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Dos Equis on December 10, 2012, 12:32:51 PM
I can have them in a second, this is a discussion on a news station that is the worst of the offendors.

It's not just a news station.  They have hard news and opinion shows.  Do you watch either one? 


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Necrosis on December 10, 2012, 12:34:22 PM
How about the other half of that question:
But for some reason, you don't do that and focus solely on Fox. WHY?

Try that on for size, first.

because unlike you I see things in shades not black and white. While bias is obvious in all media, Fox downright lies, making up stuff. Look at the driving simulator, that's bullshit.

They have news contributors working directly for Romney during his campaign, they are found in study after study of all major news outlets as the worst offendors and not by a small margin. You see if someone tells one lie it's something everyone does. If all that person does is lie then it's pathological, that's fox, they are pathological news. They have negative effects on it's viewers, namely on major issues as study after study, survey after survey elucidate.

So Mcway, by defending the worst offendors with an argument that others offend also you are in fact a communist.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: MCWAY on December 10, 2012, 12:36:36 PM
There is a reason that I am asking you this.  One that makes sense and one we can get to if you simply answer the question.  I already said the others do it.  But this isn't about the others, this is about FOX.

Again :

Does FOX distort the news?

[ ] Yes
[ ] No

And there is a reason I am asking you my question, one that makes sense if you simply answer the question.

There's a difference between merely acknowledging that other networks do such (which most of us already know) and your specifically answering why (on principle) you keep your mouth shut about the other networks yet continue to bellyache about Fox News.

Again,
But for some reason, you don't do that and focus solely on Fox. WHY?


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: MCWAY on December 10, 2012, 12:45:03 PM
because unlike you I see things in shades not black and white. While bias is obvious in all media, Fox downright lies, making up stuff. Look at the driving simulator, that's bullshit.

Most things are in black and white. That's why the relatively few grey areas need to be addressed with care.

Again, I didn't hear you, yapping about the George Zimmerman case. Did you call MSNBC out for editing the tape? Did you blast Sharpton for promoting this propaganda DIRECTLY on his show?



They have news contributors working directly for Romney during his campaign, they are found in study after study of all major news outlets as the worst offendors and not by a small margin. You see if someone tells one lie it's something everyone does. If all that person does is lie then it's pathological, that's fox, they are pathological news. They have negative effects on it's viewers, namely on major issues as study after study, survey after survey elucidate.

MSNBC had news contributors working directly for Obama during his campaign. The major news outlets are run by LIBERALS...HELLOOOO!!!! You think they wouldn't have a bone to pick with the one network that doesn't bow before Obama, as they do?

BTW, what are these so-called "negative effects"? 


So Mcway, by defending the worst offendors with an argument that others offend also you are in fact a communist.

Hogwash!! If something is WRONG, then it's wrong across the board. By defending others who engage in the same activity with an argument that the other guys who do it have a bigger audience, you are not only a hypocrite; but, you fall under that old adage that liberals believe rules are for everybody.......ELSE.

MSNBC and CNN can "distort" news to their hearts' content, simply because their audience is much smaller than that of Fox News? They can have contributors who are working on political campaigns, as long as they work for Dems?

You cannot be this misguided. Then again.....


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 10, 2012, 12:47:49 PM
And there is a reason I am asking you my question, one that makes sense if you simply answer the question.

There's a difference between merely acknowledging that other networks do such (which most of us already know) and your specifically answering why (on principle) you keep your mouth shut about the other networks yet continue to bellyache about Fox News.

Again,
But for some reason, you don't do that and focus solely on Fox. WHY?


WTF?  I have already said on this very thread on more than one occasion that the others do the same thing.  Are you blind? Did you miss that or is this just a lame attempt at trying to avoid answering a simple question? 

Does FOX distort the  news?  Yes or no?


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: MCWAY on December 10, 2012, 12:51:09 PM
WTF?  I have already said on this very thread on more than one occasion that the others do the same thing.  Are you blind? Did you miss that or is this just a lame attempt at trying to avoid answering a simple question? 

Does FOX distort the  news?  Yes or no?


Perhaps, you need Braille.

You're the one avoiding answering a simple question. I didn't ask you if others simply did the same thing. I asked you specifically WHY you continue to call Fox News out on the carpet, even starting threads about it or actively piling on to someone else's thread, while becoming virtually MUTE, when the other networks do such.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: blacken700 on December 10, 2012, 12:55:17 PM
what does rush or hannity say on this subject  :D :D


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 10, 2012, 12:56:12 PM
what does rush or hannity say on this subject  :D :D

As if matthews or that butchy slut are any better on msnbc?


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 10, 2012, 12:57:07 PM
Perhaps, you need Braille.

You're the one avoiding answering a simple question. I didn't ask you if others simply did the same thing. I asked you specifically WHY you continue to call Fox News out on the carpet, even starting threads about it or actively piling on to someone else's thread, while becoming virtually MUTE, when the other networks do such.

Please link to another thread where the news - not opinion talk shows - did it.   I must have missed it.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2012, 01:10:17 PM
WHERE IS THIS "RESEARCH" LINK


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: whork on December 10, 2012, 01:32:43 PM
If every news station does, why are you, Necrosis, and Blacken seemingly obsessed with Fox?

I've yet to see any of you make threads about the other cable news networks.

To answer your question, I believe Fox has goofed up at times, distorting certain facts. They're human, after all.

But, Fox has also been right on the money in many other areas, often carrying stories that the other networks try to bury, until Fox makes such a ruckus that they're forced to address the issue.

They goofed up?

Are you saying they are incompetent?


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Necrosis on December 10, 2012, 02:24:00 PM
Most things are in black and white. That's why the relatively few grey areas need to be addressed with care.
not in real life
Again, I didn't hear you, yapping about the George Zimmerman case. Did you call MSNBC out for editing the tape? Did you blast Sharpton for promoting this propaganda DIRECTLY on his show?

irrelevant

MSNBC had news contributors working directly for Obama during his campaign. The major news outlets are run by LIBERALS...HELLOOOO!!!! You think they wouldn't have a bone to pick with the one network that doesn't bow before Obama, as they do?

who?
BTW, what are these so-called "negative effects"? 

misinformation, actually being less informed had they never watched fox news.

Hogwash!! If something is WRONG, then it's wrong across the board. By defending others who engage in the same activity with an argument that the other guys who do it have a bigger audience, you are not only a hypocrite; but, you fall under that old adage that liberals believe rules are for everybody.......ELSE.

Not true, there are degrees of wrongness, see the legal system  or use that thing you may have in your head.

MSNBC and CNN can "distort" news to their hearts' content, simply because their audience is much smaller than that of Fox News? They can have contributors who are working on political campaigns, as long as they work for Dems?
well golly hell another strawman, can you argue without misrepresenting your opponent?

You cannot be this misguided. Then again.....

Says the guy who couldn't have been more wrong on the election, who supports fox news and who believes in talking snakes and worldwide floods ::)


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Necrosis on December 10, 2012, 02:24:33 PM
WHERE IS THIS "RESEARCH" LINK

liberal bias reported.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: War-Horse on December 10, 2012, 04:22:24 PM
Im still laughing ma azz off about election nite on fox news.  They were stunned...their faces were hilarious. They really believed their on bullshit and then the topper was karl rove going rogue and making shit up again......Hilarious.

They build their little bubble and are afraid to look out from it.....pure comedy over there.

Rachel maddow usually has the facts and lays it out for you....btw


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: andreisdaman on December 10, 2012, 04:23:23 PM
Im still laughing ma azz off about election nite on fox news.  They were stunned...their faces were hilarious. They really believed their on bullshit and then the topper was karl rove going rogue and making shit up again......Hilarious.

They build their little bubble and are afraid to look out from it.....pure comedy over there.

Rachel maddow usually has the facts and lays it out for you....btw

100% agreed


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 10, 2012, 06:57:54 PM
100% agreed

The food stamps and ebt cards are still getting funded.  Of course the usual mooks are fat dumb and happy.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: andreisdaman on December 10, 2012, 08:37:04 PM
The food stamps and ebt cards are still getting funded.  Of course the usual mooks are fat dumb and happy.

funny how you leave out all of the millions of white people who receive these benefits as well


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 10, 2012, 08:39:02 PM
funny how you leave out all of the millions of white people who receive these benefits as well

Those greesy hillbillys are no better than the ghetto tax sponges on the Grand Concourse 


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: tbombz on December 10, 2012, 08:55:55 PM
You can't explain the tides. Causality is ultimately beyond our grasp.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 10, 2012, 09:00:39 PM
y


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: MCWAY on December 10, 2012, 09:07:40 PM
not in real life

Sure it is in real life. It's simply that, more often than not, the black or white answer isn't to the liking of many libs. So, they claim it's grey when it really isn't.

irrelevant

Hardly!! The message from your ends apparently is: "Lies" by MSNBC/CNN....not so bad. "Lies" by Fox News....HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE, ABSOLUTELY VILE!!


who?

Try Sharpton, for starters. Not to mention the former CEO (and current minority owner) of the network is in Obama's cabinet




misinformation, actually being less informed had they never watched fox news.

Hardly!! In fact, many Fox News viewers often have a leg up on those watching those other stations. Remember that whole "Memo-Gate" thing? Why do you think it was so easy to expose Rather for the hack he was, which ultimately got him fired from CBS?

Remember the whole Muslim Brotherhood issue with Egypt?

Imagine that! Lefties are actually shocked at all the foolishness, going on there (as in stuff that certain Fox pundits covered and saw coming almost A YEAR in advance).


Not true, there are degrees of wrongness, see the legal system  or use that thing you may have in your head.

That's degrees of PUNISHMENT, not degrees of "wrongness". Try taking your own advice and use that thing in YOUR head.

Stealing is wrong, period. There are varying degrees of punishment, based on the value of what was taken. But, the principle is the same. Plus, as is usually the case, such activity always stars off small and grows gradually. You don't go from stealing candy to carjacking.

well golly hell another strawman, can you argue without misrepresenting your opponent?

Not even close to a strawman. You're mush-mouthed about MSNBC and CNN. But, you yelp your brains out about Fox News, unless I missed all the threads you made about those other two networks. Maybe you should bump them.  ::)


Says the guy who couldn't have been more wrong on the election, who supports fox news and who believes in talking snakes and worldwide floods

Talk about strawman. This has zilch to do with the subject at hand. But, it's to be expected from the guy who also believes in talking snakes, namely the one who currently sits in the White House.  ;D


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2012, 10:09:50 PM
liberal bias reported.

Lol, I knew it was some lib bias "research" group.otherwise you would have posted it..your credibility is worse than Obamas, if that's at all possible.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Necrosis on December 11, 2012, 04:17:34 AM
Sure it is in real life. It's simply that, more often than not, the black or white answer isn't to the liking of many libs. So, they claim it's grey when it really isn't.

claim it all you want but one of the fallacies of CBT is all or nothing thinking, it just isn't true. read a book

Hardly!! The message from your ends apparently is: "Lies" by MSNBC/CNN....not so bad. "Lies" by Fox News....HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE, ABSOLUTELY VILE!!
not at all, another strawman
Try Sharpton, for starters. Not to mention the former CEO (and current minority owner) of the network is in Obama's cabinet

fair enough

Hardly!! In fact, many Fox News viewers often have a leg up on those watching those other stations. Remember that whole "Memo-Gate" thing? Why do you think it was so easy to expose Rather for the hack he was, which ultimately got him fired from CBS?

Remember the whole Muslim Brotherhood issue with Egypt?

Imagine that! Lefties are actually shocked at all the foolishness, going on there (as in stuff that certain Fox pundits covered and saw coming almost A YEAR in advance).

studies cite the opposite, your cherry picked examples fall flat when objective data disputes you

That's degrees of PUNISHMENT, not degrees of "wrongness". Try taking your own advice and use that thing in YOUR head.

again refer to the legal system, you are incorrect.So they have different degrees of punishment for equal wrongness since there are no degrees of wrongness? ya real rational there Mcway

Stealing is wrong, period. There are varying degrees of punishment, based on the value of what was taken. But, the principle is the same. Plus, as is usually the case, such activity always stars off small and grows gradually. You don't go from stealing candy to carjacking.

again, this is incorrect, stealing is not always wrong. It's not black and white. Also, see above.

Not even close to a strawman. You're mush-mouthed about MSNBC and CNN. But, you yelp your brains out about Fox News, unless I missed all the threads you made about those other two networks. Maybe you should bump them.  ::)

this thread isn't about any station but Fox, you are simply deflecting.

Talk about strawman. This has zilch to do with the subject at hand. But, it's to be expected from the guy who also believes in talking snakes, namely the one who currently sits in the White House.  ;D

It indicates your level of critical thinking, It's germane to any debate.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: andreisdaman on December 11, 2012, 05:51:35 AM
Those greesy hillbillys are no better than the ghetto tax sponges on the Grand Concourse 

I guess every one who lives on the Grand Concourse is ghetto to you huh


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: andreisdaman on December 11, 2012, 05:53:59 AM
Lol, I knew it was some lib bias "research" group.otherwise you would have posted it..your credibility is worse than Obamas, if that's at all possible.

you're actually becoming worse than 3333...your rants are annoying and if only you had more objectivity you would have much more credibility


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 11, 2012, 05:54:13 AM
I guess every one who lives on the Grand Concourse is ghetto to you huh

Ever see what the heck hangs around on the porches and corners on the Concourse lately?  


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: whork on December 11, 2012, 06:04:04 AM
If every news station does, why are you, Necrosis, and Blacken seemingly obsessed with Fox?

I've yet to see any of you make threads about the other cable news networks.

To answer your question, I believe Fox has goofed up at times, distorting certain facts. They're human, after all.

But, Fox has also been right on the money in many other areas, often carrying stories that the other networks try to bury, until Fox makes such a ruckus that they're forced to address the issue.

Only FOX feed blatant lies Mcway.

I dont watch the news station you mentioned but if they all do it please post an link or example it should be easy to find. Othervise GTFO.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: andreisdaman on December 11, 2012, 06:05:17 AM
Ever see what the heck hangs around on the porches and corners on the Concourse lately?  

porches????.....you idiot..there are hardly any houses on the Grand concourse...you're still living in the 1950's


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 11, 2012, 06:06:46 AM
porches????.....you idiot..there are hardly any houses on the Grand concourse...you're still living in the 1950's

Oh I meant to stoops  :P  :P


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: andreisdaman on December 11, 2012, 06:07:00 AM
Only FOX feed blatant lies Mcway.

I dont watch the news station you mentioned but if they all do it please post an link or example it should be easy to find. Othervise GTFO.

This is an example where McWay shoots himself in the foot and can't bring himself to see whats right there on his face....he will never get it....amazing!!!


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: whork on December 11, 2012, 06:07:31 AM
The food stamps and ebt cards are still getting funded.  Of course the usual mooks are fat dumb and happy.

You are calling Mcway's mother fat and dumb?


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: andreisdaman on December 11, 2012, 06:08:21 AM
Oh I meant to stoops  :P  :P

Freudian Slip....you were probably thinking about "porch monkeys".. :D :D


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 11, 2012, 06:11:44 AM
Freudian Slip....you were probably thinking about "porch monkeys".. :D :D

If that was what i was thinking i would have said so.   :P


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: andreisdaman on December 11, 2012, 06:17:02 AM
If that was what i was thinking i would have said so.   :P

just trying to help you to clarify and organize your thoughts..wouldn't want you to be off-message


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 11, 2012, 06:34:32 AM
We have established two things here.

1 - All news outlet distort news to a varying degree.
2 - FOX has more viewers than the other news outlet combined.  (As the claim was made earlier)

Therefore, according to Ryan Math, FOX has more misinformed viewers walking around due to their deliberate distortion of the news than the other media outlets combined.  Nice work FAUX.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: blacken700 on December 11, 2012, 06:38:22 AM
We have established two things here.

1 - All news outlet distort news to a varying degree.
2 - FOX has more viewers than the other news outlet combined.  (As the claim was made earlier)

Therefore, according to Ryan Math, FOX has more misinformed viewers walking around due to their deliberate distortion of the news than the other media outlets combined.  Nice work FAUX.

when you throw in the ones that get their news from rush and hannity and you have the perfect storm  :D :D :D


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 11, 2012, 06:39:09 AM
when you throw in the ones that get their news from rush and hannity and you have the perfect storm  :D :D :D

No different than those who listen to Rachel MadCOW or Fat Ed or the other commies on MSNBC


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: andreisdaman on December 11, 2012, 06:43:18 AM
We have established two things here.

1 - All news outlet distort news to a varying degree.
2 - FOX has more viewers than the other news outlet combined.  (As the claim was made earlier)

Therefore, according to Ryan Math, FOX has more misinformed viewers walking around due to their deliberate distortion of the news than the other media outlets combined.  Nice work FAUX.

good work here...nice logic...good post


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: whork on December 11, 2012, 06:43:51 AM
No different than those who listen to Rachel MadCOW or Fat Ed or the other commies on MSNBC

Link with blatant lies or GTFO


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: blacken700 on December 11, 2012, 06:44:01 AM
what's with changing their names,that's like a 12 year old thing


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: andreisdaman on December 11, 2012, 06:45:37 AM
No different than those who listen to Rachel MadCOW or Fat Ed or the other commies on MSNBC

Rachel Maddow doesn't just pop off with rhetoric which is tortured and unsubstantiated...Rachel lays out her case and actually gives you references as to where she got her facts from...she is the best on TV....unlike the guys who say the earth is 6000 years old and that dinosaurs never existed.....


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 11, 2012, 06:52:32 AM
No different than those who listen to Rachel MadCOW or Fat Ed or the other commies on MSNBC

i listen to these msn shows (not so much since election) and i like Rush, hannity during day.

they're probably about the same in terms of "everyone jump to an over-reaction, based upon race and emotion!!"

Beck uses the most sarcasm, rush can't sip coffee without mentioning how black it is, ed can't fart without mentioning how the unions ensured his right to stink, and maddow is the ultimate in 'gotcha' journalism, sniffing out the real-life CTs on a regular basis in a very effective manner.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 11, 2012, 08:28:06 AM
what's with changing their names,that's like a 12 year old thing

LOL!!!  Someone had their meltdown already.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2012, 08:29:18 AM
So last year a study conducted by a bi-partisan reserach group found that FOX in fact provided more disinformation then any other network at a two to one rate.

A now recent study have found that you are actually more informed if you watch no news at all then if you watch fox. How bizzare is that?

the average fox viewer is 65. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988273?refCatId=1275

You have moronic anchors like Bill O'reilly saying retarded things like you can't explain the tides, Murdoch is the most currupt fuck ever and this past week then even made up a news story, falsifying a driving simulator to tar MJ and driving. They used a simulator for 18 wheelers, and forced an accident after a period of time, sometimes with other vehicles swerving into the vehicle.

My question is, this is just some of the non-sense, but it's apparent they are the worst of the worst, why in hell do people support them. Despite being a right/left winger, surely there are better sources of accurate info.

Still no link to your "research"?


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2012, 08:39:53 AM
Link with blatant lies or GTFO

We can start here..


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2012/06/05/maddow-vents-about-romney-deceit-after-she-lies-about-wisconsin-recal

http://www.newstalk1160.com/rachel-maddow-lies-again-politifact-whacks-her-again-this-time-on-rick-perry-tax-plan

http://www.nationalreview.com/media-blog/331525/rachel-maddow-lies-david-letterman-auto-bailout-greg-pollowitz#


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Necrosis on December 11, 2012, 12:31:06 PM
We can start here..


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2012/06/05/maddow-vents-about-romney-deceit-after-she-lies-about-wisconsin-recal

http://www.newstalk1160.com/rachel-maddow-lies-again-politifact-whacks-her-again-this-time-on-rick-perry-tax-plan

http://www.nationalreview.com/media-blog/331525/rachel-maddow-lies-david-letterman-auto-bailout-greg-pollowitz#

newsbusters? exposing liberal bias on the top of the page, let me guess a repub outlet right?

where's the research.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2012, 12:35:53 PM
newsbusters? exposing liberal bias on the top of the page, let me guess a repub outlet right?

where's the research.

Are they wrong??


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: bears on December 11, 2012, 01:03:49 PM
"tell me what i want to hear or I won't believe it"

-everyone on this board


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: avxo on December 11, 2012, 01:52:45 PM
i listen to these msn shows (not so much since election) and i like Rush, hannity during day.

I'm sorry your ears and eyes were and continue to be raped like that... Why would you subject yourself to any of those "shows"? Do you also volunteer to dive into a pool of excrement?


they're probably about the same in terms of "everyone jump to an over-reaction, based upon race and emotion!!"

Donkey shit and elephant shit. Different species, but their excrement is the same.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: whork on December 11, 2012, 03:33:23 PM
We can start here..


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2012/06/05/maddow-vents-about-romney-deceit-after-she-lies-about-wisconsin-recal

http://www.newstalk1160.com/rachel-maddow-lies-again-politifact-whacks-her-again-this-time-on-rick-perry-tax-plan

http://www.nationalreview.com/media-blog/331525/rachel-maddow-lies-david-letterman-auto-bailout-greg-pollowitz#

Yes thats the same as fake poll numbers, blatant lies, fake pictures etc etc.. ::)

I actually thought you would be able to find at least 1 blatant lie since they represent the other wing but it looks like you cant.

The original link said FOX was 2 times worse than its counterparts, looks like its way more.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: War-Horse on December 11, 2012, 03:43:04 PM
Yes thats the same as fake poll numbers, blatant lies, fake pictures etc etc.. ::)

I actually thought you would be able to find at least 1 blatant lie since they represent the other wing but it looks like you cant.

The original link said FOX was 2 times worse than its counterparts, looks like its way more.


Ya. Its great when he screams for legitimate links and put's this crap up..lmao


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: tbombz on December 11, 2012, 04:04:38 PM
You can't explain the tides. Causality is beyond our grasp. 


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: whork on December 11, 2012, 05:32:13 PM
Ya. Its great when he screams for legitimate links and put's this crap up..lmao

I actually thought he would be able to find something.

Either he is slow or they are even more honest compared to FOX than i thought.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2012, 06:04:20 PM
Ya. Its great when he screams for legitimate links and put's this crap up..lmao

Hahaha, again. Is it wrong? is it any wonder why this country is fucked with backwards liberal thinking and zero commonsense?


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Dos Equis on December 11, 2012, 07:09:13 PM
"tell me what i want to hear or I won't believe it"

-everyone on this board

lol.  Not everyone, but quite a few.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: War-Horse on December 12, 2012, 11:23:52 AM
Hahaha, again. Is it wrong? is it any wonder why this country is fucked with backwards liberal thinking and zero commonsense?


According to you its wrong. "sources matter".   Post legitimate links or stfu about someone elses links......typical hypocrite gop thinking.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: MCWAY on December 12, 2012, 12:21:20 PM
Im still laughing ma azz off about election nite on fox news.  They were stunned...their faces were hilarious. They really believed their on bullshit and then the topper was karl rove going rogue and making shit up again......Hilarious.

They build their little bubble and are afraid to look out from it.....pure comedy over there.

Rachel maddow usually has the facts and lays it out for you....btw

Then, explain what happened about six months ago, when MSNBC was in utter disbelief, regarding the results of the Wisconsin recall.

Ed Schultz and a number of his guests were still claiming the race wasn't over and there were still ballots to be counted, even AFTER MSNBC and the other networks called the race for Walker.

Did they build a bubble, afraid to look out from it?

And if you think Rove went "rogue" (which he didn't; he explained that he was looking at the Ohio election supervisor's website, which had more updated data), Shultz was nearly on the brink of tears.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: whork on December 12, 2012, 12:23:08 PM
I actually thought he would be able to find something.

Either he is slow or they are even more honest compared to FOX than i thought.

Bumb.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: MCWAY on December 12, 2012, 12:32:28 PM
Only FOX feed blatant lies Mcway.

I dont watch the news station you mentioned but if they all do it please post an link or example it should be easy to find. Othervise GTFO.

If you don't watch those news stations, how in the world can you claim that "only FOX feed blatant lies"?

And apparently, you missed the face I already cited an example, regarding the other networks: The doctored 911 tape in the Zimmerman-Martin case, courtesy of (MS)NBC.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: blacken700 on December 12, 2012, 01:14:39 PM
if hannity and rush didn't tell me i can't believe it  :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 12, 2012, 01:26:28 PM

According to you its wrong. "sources matter".   Post legitimate links or stfu about someone elses links......typical hypocrite gop thinking.

Well that went right over his head.  (pun)


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: whork on December 12, 2012, 03:10:04 PM
If you don't watch those news stations, how in the world can you claim that "only FOX feed blatant lies"?

And apparently, you missed the face I already cited an example, regarding the other networks: The doctored 911 tape in the Zimmerman-Martin case, courtesy of (MS)NBC.

I cant.

I actually thought you would fine some lies from leftwing channels somewhat on the scale of FOX lies, but it looks like you cant.

FOX is even more corrupt than i thought.


Title: Re: Seriously, Fox news.
Post by: Necrosis on December 12, 2012, 03:55:51 PM
If you don't watch those news stations, how in the world can you claim that "only FOX feed blatant lies"?

And apparently, you missed the face I already cited an example, regarding the other networks: The doctored 911 tape in the Zimmerman-Martin case, courtesy of (MS)NBC.

post that for me would ya, I am interested.