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Title: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 09:26:47 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57559229/source-gunman-dead-in-conn-elementary-school-shooting/

NEWTOWN, Conn.—
Multiple people have been killed in a shooting at an elementary school. At least one child is among the dead, the Hartford Courant reports. Sources told the newspaper that many of the shootings took place in a kindergarten classroom. An official with knowledge of the situation says a gunman is dead.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still under way, says the man apparently had two guns.

The shooting was reported at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, in western Connecticut. State police say Newtown police called them at about 9:40 a.m. about the reports.

Newtown is in northern Fairfield County, about 45 miles southwest of Hartford and 80 miles northeast of New York City.

Eight-year-old Alexis Wasik, a third-grader at the school, said police were checking everybody inside the school before they were escorted to the firehouse.

"We had to walk with a partner," she said.

One child leaving the school said that there was shattered glass everywhere. A police officer ran into the classroom and told them to run outside and keep going until the reach the firehouse.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: mass243 on December 14, 2012, 09:31:12 AM


This was not the first event of this kind in this year..... Yankee in record speed Strong !!!11




Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Tre on December 14, 2012, 09:32:56 AM

White people are fucking crazy.  Savages.

So fucking sad. :(


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 09:34:24 AM

This was not the first event of this kind in this year..... Yankee in record speed Strong !!!11




Mass shootings are just becoming out of control.  :-\ :-\


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 14, 2012, 09:34:34 AM
The natural result of a Godless anti-christ society.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 14, 2012, 09:35:47 AM
White people are fucking crazy.  Savages.

So fucking sad. :(

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Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 09:38:25 AM
The natural result of a Godless anti-christ society.

Ahhh, I guess you forgot about the millions and millions that have died in the name of religion.

Anyway, these isolated incidences are usually the result of sick people and have little to do with a godless society.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 09:39:41 AM
Update: More than a dozen killed, including children.

There were two gunmen. One dead.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: gmflex on December 14, 2012, 09:40:22 AM
We need gun control.  :o


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 14, 2012, 09:40:26 AM
Ahhh, I guess you forgot about the millions and millions that have died in the name of religion.

Anyway, these isolated incidences are usually the result of sick people and have little to do with a godless society.

Keep telling yourself your little stories that you read on the internet.  Meanwhile people with an ounce of sense can see things for what they are..


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
Keep telling yourself your little stories that you read on the internet.  Meanwhile people with an ounce of sense can see things for what they are..

haha, okay, buddy. Sure. Keep believing its the result of a godless society.

Anyway, its not worth getting into a religious fight, especially when children have passed.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 09:41:55 AM
Kindergarten Cop would have saved them.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 09:44:17 AM
White people are fucking crazy.  Savages.

So fucking sad. :(

Troll harder nig nog

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=451475.0


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Thick Nick on December 14, 2012, 09:45:39 AM
Anyone with half a brain knows that a large scale attack like 911 will most likely never work again. This lone wolf type small scale attack has been going on, and the media is trying to hide what is really happening. While this incident may not be terrorism...my guess is it will be... hitting malls and schools is not meant for large body counts, it is meant to spread fear. Killing kids... wtf.

This is exactly the strategy they use in Israel. It was only a matter of time before it started here. Educate your kids about the evil death cult and arm yourself. This is just the beginning.

In before Assmed says not Islam.. But then 6 months from now we find out it was.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 14, 2012, 09:45:46 AM
We need gun control.  :o

Using that logic that means we also need ban:  flying in airplanes, driving cars, booze, smoking, prescription meds, and don't forget forks and spoons for making people fat.

  


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 09:45:52 AM
Now they are saying up to 20 children being shot. Damn!  :'( :'(


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 14, 2012, 09:46:55 AM
Anyone with half a brain knows that a large scale attack like 911 will most likely never work again. This lone wolf type small scale attack has been going on, and the media is trying to hide what is really happening. While this incident may not be terrorism...my guess is it will be... hitting malls and schools is not meant for large body counts, it is meant to spread fear. Killing kids... wtf.

This is exactly the strategy they use in Israel. It was only a matter of time before it started here. Educate your kids about the evil death cult and arm yourself. This is just the beginning.

In before Assmed says not Islam.. But then 6 months from now we find out it was.

Finally... someone who actually gets it!


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Emmortal on December 14, 2012, 09:47:14 AM
Ahhh, I guess you forgot about the millions and millions that have died in the name of religion.

Anyway, these isolated incidences are usually the result of sick people and have little to do with a godless society.

Or the 10's of millions murdered in the name of power.  People will kill people regardless of religion and have been for thousands of years.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: woodman on December 14, 2012, 09:47:44 AM
NBC is reporting up to 20 kids shot...extremely sad


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 09:49:33 AM
NBC is reporting up to 20 kids shot...extremely sad

are they confirmed dead or shot?

fuck me that is some sad sad news


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Thick Nick on December 14, 2012, 09:50:38 AM
NBC is reporting up to 20 kids shot...extremely sad

Any mention of the attackers? Race? Yelling Allah is an assbag? My guess is no. UNLESS its a pasty white guy. They will hold a celebration and put it all over the place.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Tre on December 14, 2012, 09:52:12 AM
Troll harder nig nog

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=451475.0

Nig-ga, please.  Anytime some idiot fucker goes apeshit and starts shooting up a school, the perp is white.  Or white-Asian.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Thick Nick on December 14, 2012, 09:55:03 AM
Nig-ga, please.  Anytime some idiot fucker goes apeshit and starts shooting up a school, the perp is white.  Or white-Asian.

Lol @ you. You only see the ones done but crazy whites because that's the only ones the media will report. They don't mention the race or religion if it is anything other then a white Christian pretty much.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 09:55:24 AM
Just been confirmed. 27 dead, and 12 of them are children.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: PJim on December 14, 2012, 09:56:38 AM
The natural result of a Godless anti-christ society.

If you are only good because of a giant bearded cctv camera in the sky, then you are not truly good at all.
Please don't try and rationalise the actions of the irrational by saying it's to do with a belief or lack of belief in a "God".


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Shockwave on December 14, 2012, 09:57:13 AM
Countdown to overly crazy gun control legislature.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 09:58:26 AM
Bad boy and uberman seem like they might like to share a bunker together in San Francisco


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 09:58:56 AM
Sources: 17 or 18 children dead.

20 year old gunmen from CT who was dressed all in black. Motive unclear. Do not know if he acted alone.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 10:00:25 AM
Sources: 17 or 18 children dead.

Jesus, so unnecessary and senseless.  Hang the fucker from the nearest tree.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 10:00:38 AM
Dont remember christians going to schools killing kids...wtf are you babbling about sf1900 ? BTW christians warriors changed the world for good, not for the worst, just like it will be needed again. Sure some werent real christians and gave christianism a bad name, but it's up to you to denigrate the faith they pretended to endorse when yourself dont even know what this faith is truly about, basically being yourself a brainwashed ignorant atheist who never read the Bible in the first place before making up your mind about it.

Only lost atheists or muslims would go to schools to kill...atheists or christian , buddhist, kids. Only a lost atheist beleiving in absurdity, would go kill other people kids to release his anger/frustration. This is the definition of insanity.

I also doubt there will be more muslim terror acts in north america, as the real danger now is a population of millions of people losing their jobs, homes, families, due to the depression we re in for at least 30 years. Atheists will lose everything and will want to make the "society" pay, because atheists arent part of a society, their superficial society is only an illusion where everyone is egocentrical, cynical, hypocrit and attempts to fuck each others in the ass, the opposite of a christian community.

Japan will collapse, then europe, then the united states, and the real danger will be your atheist neighbor who once he loses all his material goods, will either choose to become spiritual again by necessity, or devolve into an animal. Odds are high most people will devolve into animals and that only a strong faithful life protecting minority will stay spiritual and survive. Then they ll have to fight chinese and muslims who will take over whole  eurasia, africa and australia.



Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: TrapsMcLats on December 14, 2012, 10:02:24 AM
well, minorities kill each other by the dozens every week in major cities, its just gang related.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 10:03:38 AM
Dont remember christians going to schools killing kids...wtf are you babbling about sf1900 ? BTW christians warriors changed the world for good, not for the worst, just like it will be needed again. Sure some werent real christians and gave christianism a bad name, but it's up to you to denigrate the faith they pretended to endorse when yourself dont even know what this faith is truly about, basically being yourself a brainwashed ignorant atheist who never read the Bible in the first place before making up your mind about it.

Only lost atheists or muslims would do that to...atheists or christian , buddhist, kids.

I also doubt there will be more muslim terror acts in north america, as the real danger now is a population of millions of people losing their jobs, homes, families, due to the depression we re in for at least 30 years. Atheists will lose everything and will want to make the "society" pay, because atheists arent part of a society, their superficial society is only an illusion where everyone attempts to fuck each others in the ass, the opposite of a christian community.

Japan will collapse, then europe, then the united states, and the real danger will be your atheist neighbor who once he loses all his material goods, will either choose to become spiritual again by necessity, or devolve into an animal. Odds are high most people will devolve into animals and that only a strong faithful life protecting minority will stay spiritual and survive. Then we ll have to fight chinese and muslims who will take over whole  eurasia, africa and australia.



Uberman, shut the hell up and go away. I was not the one who initially turned this into a religious post. Piss off, you asshole.

There are many atheists who DO NOT kill children, you moron. Go away.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Voice of Doom on December 14, 2012, 10:04:15 AM
make those christmas gun and ammo purchases now while you still can.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 10:05:05 AM
Uberman, shut the hell up and go away. I was not the one who initially turned this into a religious post. Piss off, you asshole.

There are many atheists who DO NOT kill children, you moron. Go away.
Lol, that's all you have to say after being ridiculed again?


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: BIG ACH on December 14, 2012, 10:05:18 AM
Very Sad.  Who the fuck goes and shoots children?


We keep hearing about these mass shootings almost every other day now!  Wtf is going on!


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: mass243 on December 14, 2012, 10:05:35 AM
Dont remember christians going to schools killing kids...wtf are you babbling about sf1900 ? BTW christians warriors changed the world for good, not for the worst, just like it will be needed again. Sure some werent real christians and gave christianism a bad name, but it's up to you to denigrate the faith they pretended to endorse when yourself dont even know what this faith is truly about, basically being yourself a brainwashed ignorant atheist who never read the Bible in the first place before making up your mind about it.

Only lost atheists or muslims would do that to...atheists or christian , buddhist, kids.

I also doubt there will be more muslim terror acts in north america, as the real danger now is a population of millions of people losing their jobs, homes, families, due to the depression we re in for at least 30 years. Atheists will lose everything and will want to make the "society" pay, because atheists arent part of a society, their superficial society is only an illusion where everyone is egocentrical, cynical, hypocrit and attempts to fuck each others in the ass, the opposite of a christian community.

Japan will collapse, then europe, then the united states, and the real danger will be your atheist neighbor who once he loses all his material goods, will either choose to become spiritual again by necessity, or devolve into an animal. Odds are high most people will devolve into animals and that only a strong faithful life protecting minority will stay spiritual and survive. Then they ll have to fight chinese and muslims who will take over whole  eurasia, africa and australia.




LOL,
This is what you get when your government doesn't provide mental care for every citizen whether they are capable to pay for it or not.


Title: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: dan18 on December 14, 2012, 10:06:47 AM
18 children among 27 dead in shooting at Conn. elementary school

NEWTOWN, Conn. — At least 27 people were killed, including 18 children, in a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., on Friday, according to reports from Reuters and The Associated Press.

The gunman also is among the dead, and, according to an ABC affiliate, is believed to be a parent of one of the students. Many of the shootings took place in a kindergarten classroom, a local newspaper reported


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Thick Nick on December 14, 2012, 10:07:42 AM
Countdown to overly crazy gun control legislature.

So true and so wrong. Do you think someone crazy enough to shoot children will follow the laws and turn his guns in? Seriously? The only people who will be armed if that happens IS the crazies.

What we need is armed guards everywhere, teachers and pilots with guns, etc. Make gun training and carrying a fucking job requirement. If someone is crazy enough they will kill hut this guy would never get to 27 dead and all those kids if someone was armed there. I am seriously considering home schooling for my kids if this shit don't improve.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 10:08:17 AM
but its Friday...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr3E6mNRxHU


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 10:08:28 AM
Lol, that's all you have to say after being ridiculed again?

After being ridiculed AGAIN? Who ridiculed me before you? No one. Youre such an idiot.

No, I am not going to sit here and argue with you over this. Its pointless, especially in a thread like this.


Title: Re: JESUS NOT AGAIN MASSIVE SHOOT AT SCHOOL IN CT
Post by: Secret Stack on December 14, 2012, 10:08:50 AM
Lol, stating the country it happened in isn't even necessary anymore.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 14, 2012, 10:08:59 AM
I'm curious to see the race or religion of the gunmen. This seems to be a little bit more than the usual psychotic white maniac who goes batshit and kills people. they are usually young men who are killing their peers, IE high school kids, college kids, kids at a movie theater. but CHILDREN? little kids?, who the fuck would do something like that..I'm sick to my stomach watching this. whatever the race they are the scum of the fucking earth.


Horrible tragedy.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 10:09:19 AM
Sources: 17 or 18 children dead.

20 year old gunmen from CT who was dressed all in black. Motive unclear. Do not know if he acted alone.

Read somewhere he was the father of oner of the kids or some shit  


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 10:09:27 AM

LOL,
This is what you get when your government doesn't provide mental care for every citizen whether they are capable to pay for it or not.
Genuine, God fearing christian believers dont need "mental care" from a "government", all they need is a Bible and faithful family.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 10:10:45 AM
So true and so wrong. Do you think someone crazy enough to shoot children will follow the laws and turn his guns in? Seriously? The only people who will be armed if that happens IS the crazies.

What we need is armed guards everywhere, teachers and pilots with guns, etc. Make gun training and carrying a fucking job requirement. If someone is crazy enough they will kill hut this guy would never get to 27 dead and all those kids if someone was armed there. I am seriously considering home schooling for my kids if this shit don't improve.

Everyone having a gun would have confused the situation especially for the police.  No one would know who the bad guy was. A lot more people might have been killed in the cross fire


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 14, 2012, 10:11:17 AM
If you are only good because of a giant bearded cctv camera in the sky, then you are not truly good at all.
Please don't try and rationalise the actions of the irrational by saying it's to do with a belief or lack of belief in a "God".

I never said what you insinuate or interpret.

Doing good because it is right is the result of a "right mind".

An increasingly diseased society is the result of a warped culture.



Title: Re: JESUS NOT AGAIN MASSIVE SHOOT AT SCHOOL IN CT
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 10:12:33 AM
i bet he is white



Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 10:12:44 AM
Dont remember christians going to schools killing kids...wtf are you babbling about sf1900 ? BTW christians warriors changed the world for good, not for the worst, just like it will be needed again. Sure some werent real christians and gave christianism a bad name, but it's up to you to denigrate the faith they pretended to endorse when yourself dont even know what this faith is truly about, basically being yourself a brainwashed ignorant atheist who never read the Bible in the first place before making up your mind about it.

Only lost atheists or muslims would go to schools to kill...atheists or christian , buddhist, kids. Only a lost atheist beleiving in absurdity, would go kill other people kids to release his anger/frustration. This is the definition of insanity.

I also doubt there will be more muslim terror acts in north america, as the real danger now is a population of millions of people losing their jobs, homes, families, due to the depression we re in for at least 30 years. Atheists will lose everything and will want to make the "society" pay, because atheists arent part of a society, their superficial society is only an illusion where everyone is egocentrical, cynical, hypocrit and attempts to fuck each others in the ass, the opposite of a christian community.

Japan will collapse, then europe, then the united states, and the real danger will be your atheist neighbor who once he loses all his material goods, will either choose to become spiritual again by necessity, or devolve into an animal. Odds are high most people will devolve into animals and that only a strong faithful life protecting minority will stay spiritual and survive. Then they ll have to fight chinese and muslims who will take over whole  eurasia, africa and australia.




why are you so bitter?
?
you and why do you at times sound like suchmymuscle ?


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 10:18:23 AM
Very Sad.  Who the fuck goes and shoots children?


an atheist who lost job/wife/kids/ felt betrayed by someone else/ended convinced that life isnt worth is , and that he must destroy it. Insanity. Only atheists can reach such level of self hartred. Basically someone who wasnt loved enough /able to love, to survive, go thru a mental breakdown. Most people who feel like they re useless and are ashamed by their mistakes or the suffering they created to others end killing THEMSELVES. To end killing OTHERS, you have to be convinced they are the problem/responsible for your sufferings. Also to end that way, you need to be completely abandonned by others, to have no meaningful relationship with a significant loving one at all anymore.
Madness is blind and utter destruction. Doesnt mean using strenght to protect life is the same. Only a faithful God fearing human can use strenght to do good, any atheist using strenght will end commiting blind violence.

One day we will have to use our force and faith to prevent faithless, mad human beings from destroying life either in their sole interest or with the goal to simply destroy everything.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 14, 2012, 10:20:27 AM
an atheist who lost job/wife/kids/ felt betrayed by someone else/ended convinced that life isnt worth is , and that he must destroy it. Insanity. Only atheists can reach such level of self hartred. Basically someone who wasnt loved enough /able to love, to survive, go thru a mental breakdown.
Madness is blind and utter destruction. Doesnt mean using strenght to protect life is the same. Only a faithful God fearing human can use strenght to do good, any atheist using strenght will end commiting blind violence.

One day we will have to use our force and faith to prevent faithless, mad human beings from destroying life either in their sole interest or with the goal to simply destroy everything.

aren't you the same asshole who wished an earthquake would level a high rise in Japan and kill thousands ?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 10:22:17 AM
Shooter is probably another manchurian candidate like the Joker shooter



(http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2012620/reg_600.jamesholmes.mh.072012.jpg)


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 10:22:25 AM
Dont remember christians going to schools killing kids...wtf are you babbling about sf1900 ? BTW christians warriors changed the world for good, not for the worst, just like it will be needed again. Sure some werent real christians and gave christianism a bad name, but it's up to you to denigrate the faith they pretended to endorse when yourself dont even know what this faith is truly about, basically being yourself a brainwashed ignorant atheist who never read the Bible in the first place before making up your mind about it.

Only lost atheists or muslims would go to schools to kill...atheists or christian , buddhist, kids. Only a lost atheist beleiving in absurdity, would go kill other people kids to release his anger/frustration. This is the definition of insanity.

I also doubt there will be more muslim terror acts in north america, as the real danger now is a population of millions of people losing their jobs, homes, families, due to the depression we re in for at least 30 years. Atheists will lose everything and will want to make the "society" pay, because atheists arent part of a society, their superficial society is only an illusion where everyone is egocentrical, cynical, hypocrit and attempts to fuck each others in the ass, the opposite of a christian community.

Japan will collapse, then europe, then the united states, and the real danger will be your atheist neighbor who once he loses all his material goods, will either choose to become spiritual again by necessity, or devolve into an animal. Odds are high most people will devolve into animals and that only a strong faithful life protecting minority will stay spiritual and survive. Then they ll have to fight chinese and muslims who will take over whole  eurasia, africa and australia.


Here you go moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

Killed    77
Injured    242

(http://crooksandliars.com/files/vfs/2011/07/Breivik-FB.JPG)


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 10:23:12 AM
aren't you the same asshole who wished an earthquake would level a high rise in Japan and kill thousands ?
Lol...Man you re thick. It was china, you retard, and yeah, most chinese not being God fearing humans but communisto capitalistic animals building cheap shit quick only to make profits deserve what they get if their stupid carelessy built on purpose creations end killing them.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 10:24:09 AM
LIVE NEWS FEED


http://news.yahoo.com/video/abc-news-plus-special-report-220000361.html (http://news.yahoo.com/video/abc-news-plus-special-report-220000361.html)


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 10:24:22 AM
Here you go moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

Remember the inquisition or jones town, Waco


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 10:24:30 AM
Lol...Man you re thick. It was china, you retard, and yeah, most chinese not being God fearing humans but communisto capitalistic animals building cheap shit quick only to make profits deserve what they get if their stupid careless creations end killing them.
(http://crooksandliars.com/files/vfs/2011/07/Breivik-FB.JPG)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Voice of Doom on December 14, 2012, 10:25:29 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Fury on December 14, 2012, 10:26:05 AM
This is in the next town over. Sandy Hook is a pretty affluent area. Probably some douche in a domestic dispute with his wife.

I'm curious to see the race or religion of the gunmen. This seems to be a little bit more than the usual psychotic white maniac who goes batshit and kills people. they are usually young men who are killing their peers, IE high school kids, college kids, kids at a movie theater. but CHILDREN? little kids?, who the fuck would do something like that..I'm sick to my stomach watching this. whatever the race they are the scum of the fucking earth.


Horrible tragedy.

There aren't many minorities in Newtown or the surrounding towns. Mostly white, upper-middle class families so it was most likely a white guy. But I could always be wrong.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 10:28:24 AM
I dont think ill be able to own that AR-15 i always wanted next year her in California  :'(


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Option D on December 14, 2012, 10:28:47 AM
This is in the next town over. Sandy Hook is a pretty affluent area. Probably some douche in a domestic dispute with his wife.

There aren't many minorities in Newtown or the surrounding towns. Mostly white, upper-middle class families so it was most likely a white guy. But I could always be wrong.


I was hoping that race didnt come up...as it doesnt fucking matter

Foolish of me


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Fury on December 14, 2012, 10:30:46 AM

I was hoping that race didnt come up...as it doesnt fucking matter

Foolish of me

I didn't bring it up. I was just responding to a post.

Newtown is my high school's rival in all sports. They had 0 black guys on their sports teams.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 10:30:54 AM

I was hoping that race didnt come up...as it doesnt fucking matter

Foolish of me

It only matters if the perp is black.    :P  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Disgusted on December 14, 2012, 10:32:23 AM
All teachers should carry.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 10:33:14 AM
I have trouble recalling any woman doing this. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 14, 2012, 10:36:07 AM
This is in the next town over. Sandy Hook is a pretty affluent area. Probably some douche in a domestic dispute with his wife.

There aren't many minorities in Newtown or the surrounding towns. Mostly white, upper-middle class families so it was most likely a white guy. But I could always be wrong.

I'm not race-baiting at all, this is horrible.. but the second suspect thing has got me wondering who is responsible, normally these crazy psychopaths act alone....but yes it's irrelevant


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Fury on December 14, 2012, 10:37:07 AM
I'm not race-baiting at all, this is horrible.. but the second suspect thing has got me wondering who is responsible, normally these crazy psychopaths act alone....but yes it's irrelevant

Not implying that you were at all. Just responding to your post as I know the area.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Emmortal on December 14, 2012, 10:37:13 AM
guess the nation

second ammendment at work and at failure all at the same time

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/14/world/asia/china-knife-attack/index.html?npt=NP1

What?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: fathead on December 14, 2012, 10:37:34 AM
Has FOX NEWS blamed this on Obama yet?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Emmortal on December 14, 2012, 10:38:39 AM
I'm not race-baiting at all, this is horrible.. but the second suspect thing has got me wondering who is responsible, normally these crazy psychopaths act alone....but yes it's irrelevant

Apparently the other guy they have in custody was screaming "I DIDN'T DO IT" as he was being taken out.  May have just been a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 14, 2012, 10:41:07 AM
Not implying that you were at all. Just responding to your post as I know the area.

it's sickening. that's all i can say. little kids man, what the fuck.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 10:41:14 AM
true anus, are you trying to make a point by spamming childishly a picture cause you cant formulate an argument with words?

Breivik wasnt a christian believer. He wasnt even able to get a gf and build a family. What's more interesting tho is that he came from a dysfunctionnal -even if rich- family , had bad relationships with his father and that his mother fucked colored people. There are so many smarter ways he could have sent his message, but he "chose" that one and ultimately completely annihilated the essence of his message in the first place and worst, gave a bad name to all of those who resist muslim invasion of europe.
One thing is sure tho, nothing is going to prevent it ultimately, because atheist europeans dont reproduce anymore, so they ll get replaced by muslims. Those who refuse it will move away.

Real christians are too busy building, creating life, which he wasnt able to do, and only defend it when it is endangered. They lead by showing a good example. He would have been more useful to his cause by building a family and defending his ideas with words and weapons at the right time. He didnt, because he had nothing else to speak of in his life, noone else to  take care of.  His act was desperate and with a caring woman by his side he would never had gone that way. The perfect example of a smart but unhappy atheist coming from a dysfunctionnal, cynical family who made bad use of his vital strenghts because he truly didnt have faith. He was also an attention whore well versed into the modern "facebook era", basically a confused mind in search of a meaning, a purpose, and mental discipline.
Still, there are ethnic, religious, class wars everywhere in the world and especially in a dying occident where atheists dont reproduce anymore and are prone to be completely erased/replaced, simply because they want, to be replaced. Those who want to be replaced will be replaced, those who dont want to be replaced, wont be replaced.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Twaddle on December 14, 2012, 10:42:18 AM
Using that logic that means we also need ban:  flying in airplanes, driving cars, booze, smoking, prescription meds, and don't forget forks and spoons for making people fat.

  

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Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 10:42:45 AM
true anus, are you trying to make a point by spamming childishly a picture cause you cant formulate an argument with words?

Breivik wasnt a christian believer. He wasnt even able to get a gf and build a family. What's more interesting tho is that he came from a dysfunctionnal -even if rich- family , had bad relationships with his father and that his mother fucked colored people. There are so many smarter ways he could have sent his message, but he "chose" that one and ultimately completely annihilated the essence of his message in the first place and worst, gave a bad name to all of those who resist muslim invasion of europe.
One thing is sure tho, nothing is going to prevent it ultimately, because atheist europeans dont reproduce anymore, so they ll get replaced by muslims.

Real christians are too busy building, creating life, which he wasnt able to do, and only defend it when it is endangered. He would have been more useful to his cause by building a family and defending his ideas with words and weapons at the right time. His act was desperate and with a genuine christian woman by his side he would never had gone that way. The perfect example of a smart but unhappy atheist coming from a dysfunctionnaly, cynical family who made bad use of his vital strenghts because he truly didnt have faith. He was also an attention whore well versed into the modern "facebook era", basically a confused mind in search of a meaning, a purpose, and mental discipline.
Still, there are ethnic, religious, class wars everywhere in the world and especially in a dying occident where atheists dont reproduce anymore and are prone to be completely erased/replaced, simply because they want, to be replaced. Those who want to be replaced will be replaced, those who dont want to be replaced, wont be replaced.
::)

http://news.yahoo.com/cops-7-dead-3-hurt-christian-school-shooting-214742437.html

Cops: 7 dead, 3 hurt in Christian school shooting
By TERRY COLLINS | Associated Press – Mon, Apr 2, 2012


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Conker on December 14, 2012, 10:43:20 AM
This exact kind of incident will keep happening when you have a legally armed general population, so many guns in circulation makes it very easy for any sort of lunatic to get his hands on one.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Big N on December 14, 2012, 10:45:26 AM
Can we stay on the subject of sending some prayers and condolences to the victims families instead? Rather than discussing unrelated factors that you might think is more relevant than the death of children and adults being executed.

Prayers to the victims families!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Emmortal on December 14, 2012, 10:47:02 AM
::)

http://news.yahoo.com/cops-7-dead-3-hurt-christian-school-shooting-214742437.html

Cops: 7 dead, 3 hurt in Christian school shooting
By TERRY COLLINS | Associated Press – Mon, Apr 2, 2012

What exactly is your point of this? Did you even read the article or just post the first Christian + shooting search you found?  This had nothing to do with a Christian shooting people.

Go take this shit somewhere else, it shouldn't even be discussed in this thread you fucking tool.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Emmortal on December 14, 2012, 10:47:52 AM
This exact kind of incident will keep happening when you have a legally armed general population, so many guns in circulation makes it very easy for any sort of lunatic to get his hands on one.

Please tell me how no one can buy drugs because they are illegal.

Leave the politics out of this ffs.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 10:48:00 AM
true anus, are you trying to make a point by spamming childishly a picture cause you cant formulate an argument with words?

Breivik wasnt a christian believer. He wasnt even able to get a gf and build a family. What's more interesting tho is that he came from a dysfunctionnal -even if rich- family , had bad relationships with his father and that his mother fucked colored people. There are so many smarter ways he could have sent his message, but he "chose" that one and ultimately completely annihilated the essence of his message in the first place and worst, gave a bad name to all of those who resist muslim invasion of europe.
One thing is sure tho, nothing is going to prevent it ultimately, because atheist europeans dont reproduce anymore, so they ll get replaced by muslims. Those who refuse it will move away.

Real christians are too busy building, creating life, which he wasnt able to do, and only defend it when it is endangered. They lead by showing a good example. He would have been more useful to his cause by building a family and defending his ideas with words and weapons at the right time. His act was desperate and with a genuine christian woman by his side he would never had gone that way. The perfect example of a smart but unhappy atheist coming from a dysfunctionnaly, cynical family who made bad use of his vital strenghts because he truly didnt have faith. He was also an attention whore well versed into the modern "facebook era", basically a confused mind in search of a meaning, a purpose, and mental discipline.
Still, there are ethnic, religious, class wars everywhere in the world and especially in a dying occident where atheists dont reproduce anymore and are prone to be completely erased/replaced, simply because they want, to be replaced. Those who want to be replaced will be replaced, those who dont want to be replaced, wont be replaced.
::)
http://articles.dailypress.com/1989-12-13/news/8912130120_1_mr-elliott-nicholas-elliott-portable-classroom

Teen Gets Life In Prison In Shooting
Student Was `Time Bomb That Went Off': Judge
December 13, 1989|By SEAN SOMERVILLE Staff Writer

VIRGINIA BEACH — As the Bible students prayed, cowering from their gun-wielding schoolmate, the semi-automatic pistol in Nicholas Elliott's hand misfired.

But for that misfire, the toll might have been higher in the shooting spree in which the teen-ager killed one teacher and wounded another a year ago at Atlantic Shores Christian School.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 10:49:45 AM
true anus, are you trying to make a point by spamming childishly a picture cause you cant formulate an argument with words?

Breivik wasnt a christian believer. He wasnt even able to get a gf and build a family. What's more interesting tho is that he came from a dysfunctionnal -even if rich- family , had bad relationships with his father and that his mother fucked colored people. There are so many smarter ways he could have sent his message, but he "chose" that one and ultimately completely annihilated the essence of his message in the first place and worst, gave a bad name to all of those who resist muslim invasion of europe.
One thing is sure tho, nothing is going to prevent it ultimately, because atheist europeans dont reproduce anymore, so they ll get replaced by muslims. Those who refuse it will move away.

Real christians are too busy building, creating life, which he wasnt able to do, and only defend it when it is endangered. They lead by showing a good example. He would have been more useful to his cause by building a family and defending his ideas with words and weapons at the right time. He didnt, because he had nothing else to speak of in his life, noone else to  take care of.  His act was desperate and with a caring woman by his side he would never had gone that way. The perfect example of a smart but unhappy atheist coming from a dysfunctionnal, cynical family who made bad use of his vital strenghts because he truly didnt have faith. He was also an attention whore well versed into the modern "facebook era", basically a confused mind in search of a meaning, a purpose, and mental discipline.
Still, there are ethnic, religious, class wars everywhere in the world and especially in a dying occident where atheists dont reproduce anymore and are prone to be completely erased/replaced, simply because they want, to be replaced. Those who want to be replaced will be replaced, those who dont want to be replaced, wont be replaced.
::)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/04/midatlantic-christian-uni_n_748922.html

 Mid-Atlantic Christian University Shooting Leaves One Dead
12/05/10

A shooting Sunday afternoon at the Mid-Atlantic Christian University, formerly Roanoke Bible College, left a student dead.

Elizabeth City police were called to the 700 block of Poindexter St. shortly before 1 p.m. and they found the man dead when they arrived at the scene, according to a police news release. The victim was found inside a dormitory on campus, City Manager Rich Olson said.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 10:50:18 AM
Can we stay on the subject of sending some prayers and condolences to the victims families instead? Rather than discussing unrelated factors that you might think is more relevant than the death of children and adults being executed.

Prayers to the victims families!
Praying is meditating, intense focused thinking, about something, to find a solution that suits the group/insure its survival. Again, reading comprehension troubles it seems. It is important to talk about it, to understand it to prevent it from happening. Talking about it and finding solutions is "praying". Some of you should really open dictionnaries once in a while. It's as if you dont even understand the meaning of the words you re using anymore.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 10:51:23 AM
Praying is meditating, intense focused thinking, about something, to find a solution that suits the group/insure its survival. Again, reading comprehension troubles it seems. It is important to talk about it, to understand it to prevent it from happening. Talking about it and finding solutions is "praying". Some of you should really open dictionnaries once in a while. It's as if you dont even understand the meaning of the words you re using anymore.
::)

http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/mid-atlantic-christian-university-student-killed

One student said Schipper and Amyx lived in the same dorm. "All I know is that one semester, they were roommates for two weeks, but never saw them together," said Tiffany Moore, a student at MACU.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: manuelsonn on December 14, 2012, 10:51:36 AM
Praying is meditating, intense focused thinking, about something, to find a solution that suits the group/insure its survival. Again, reading comprehension troubles it seems. It is important to talk about it, to understand it to prevent it from happening. Talking about it and finding solutions is "praying". Some of you should really open dictionnaries once in a while. It's as if you dont even understand the meaning of the words you re using anymore.
u are one dumb fuck,, u make me sick, gfy


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 10:51:59 AM
What exactly is your point of this? Did you even read the article or just post the first Christian + shooting search you found?  This had nothing to do with a Christian shooting people.

Go take this shit somewhere else, it shouldn't even be discussed in this thread you fucking tool.
dont waste your time with this idiot. He s making no point, isnt going anywhere, just a smartass in need of recognition. A little child.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 10:52:26 AM
Praying is meditating, intense focused thinking, about something, to find a solution that suits the group/insure its survival. Again, reading comprehension troubles it seems. It is important to talk about it, to understand it to prevent it from happening. Talking about it and finding solutions is "praying". Some of you should really open dictionnaries once in a while. It's as if you dont even understand the meaning of the words you re using anymore.

Praying is a supernatural term and is not the same as talking about a subject and trying to find a solution.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 10:54:13 AM
James Holmes is sighing in releief now that he is not the most hated man in america


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: manuelsonn on December 14, 2012, 10:54:34 AM
Praying is a supernatural term and is not the same as talking about a subject and trying to find a solution.  
well, why dont u tell that to this caveman anachronic piece of ignorance and shit that 's unterman,, praying,, sick fuck


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Thick Nick on December 14, 2012, 10:56:19 AM
Everyone having a gun would have confused the situation especially for the police.  No one would know who the bad guy was. A lot more people might have been killed in the cross fire

I said trained... not just some knuckleheads shooting everyone. Weak and tired argument. No gun has every committed one of these crimes... people do.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 10:56:31 AM
dont waste your time with this idiot. He s making no point, isnt going anywhere, just a smartass in need of recognition. A little child.
::)

Christians, like yourself, are clearly capable of being monsters and do carry out mass shooting in the United States more so than those affiliated with any other religion or non-religion.

Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 10:56:54 AM
::)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/04/midatlantic-christian-uni_n_748922.html

 Mid-Atlantic Christian University Shooting Leaves One Dead
12/05/10

A shooting Sunday afternoon at the Mid-Atlantic Christian University, formerly Roanoke Bible College, left a student dead.

Elizabeth City police were called to the 700 block of Poindexter St. shortly before 1 p.m. and they found the man dead when they arrived at the scene, according to a police news release. The victim was found inside a dormitory on campus, City Manager Rich Olson said.
So because someone who oviously didnt follow apply or understand christian principles kills people in a christian communauty, means that christians people kill other people kids in schools.


Seriously, you re trying too hard. Not  very mature for someone who always pretend he s smarter than everyone else but dont even have the mental capacities to explain his childish arguments. Not that anyone cares about them anyway, but people on the same level as you or dumber.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 10:57:42 AM
So because someone who oviously didnt follow apply or understand christian principles kills people in a christian communauty, means that christians people kill other people kids in schools.


Seriously, you re trying too hard. Not  very mature for someone who always pretend he s smarter than everyone else but dont even have the mental capacities to explain his childish arguments. Not that anyone cares about them anyway, but people on the same level as you or dumber.
::)

You are a piece of shit.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Conker on December 14, 2012, 10:58:08 AM
Please tell me how no one can buy drugs because they are illegal.

Leave the politics out of this ffs.

It's not politics it's common sense, you think you are protecting yourselves with guns, while all the statistics say opposite. You're just making guns easily accessible to criminals and lunatics.

Why do you think these incidents happen several times a year in the US? Its a bit harder for some loony to go stab 27 people to death.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: PJim on December 14, 2012, 10:58:41 AM
So because someone who oviously didnt follow apply or understand christian principles kills people in a christian communauty, means that christians people kill other people kids in schools.


Seriously, you re trying too hard. Not  very mature for someone who always pretend he s smarter than everyone else but dont even have the mental capacities to explain his childish arguments. Not that anyone cares about them anyway, but people on the same level as you or dumber.

Ah the old reliable and tested, "Christian Principles".


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Twaddle on December 14, 2012, 10:59:20 AM
::)

You are a piece of shit.

(http://obamaletdownwatch.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/oh-snap.jpg?w=300&h=270)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 10:59:34 AM
it bothers me when people say "my prayers go out to the family"  Umm thanks but no thanks.  Your prayers are useless and don't do anything. When do people think they have this supernatural ability?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Mayor Of Bodybuilding on December 14, 2012, 11:00:02 AM
The need for Armed security in our Schools is long overdue. You cant bring a Slingshot to a gun fight folks!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 11:00:30 AM
::)

Christians, like yourself, are clearly capable of being monsters and do carry out mass shooting in the United States more so than those affiliated with any other religion or non-religion.

Hope this helps.

Lol.

ok Adam. How is your marriage going btw ? You know, that christian institution? How is caroline gresham doing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_(given_name)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles


You re seriously losing it lately. It's as if your logic was completely destroyed and you couldnt come with anything else but childish insults.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nomad on December 14, 2012, 11:00:51 AM
What exactly is your point of this? Did you even read the article or just post the first Christian + shooting search you found?  This had nothing to do with a Christian shooting people.

Go take this shit somewhere else, it shouldn't even be discussed in this thread you fucking tool.

The True Twinkiedonis is still butthurt over the fact that his parents made him wake up early on Sundays to got to church.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nomad on December 14, 2012, 11:01:46 AM
Lol.

ok Adam. How is your marriage going btw ? You know, that christian institution? How is caroline gresham doing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_(given_name)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles


You re seriously losing it lately.

Nothing like a real Christian to resort to desperate personal attacks. You are complete hypocrite btw, always changing your stance and positions whenever it fits your dogma.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 11:02:31 AM
I said trained... not just some knuckleheads shooting everyone. Weak and tired argument. No gun has every committed one of these crimes... people do.


Even if trained it causes confusion and makes it difficult for police to assess and contain the situation.  I'm a gun owner myself but I don't think it logically follows that more guns always equals greater safety.  To many people have fantasies of being John Wayne  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Big N on December 14, 2012, 11:03:42 AM
Praying is meditating, intense focused thinking, about something, to find a solution that suits the group/insure its survival. Again, reading comprehension troubles it seems. It is important to talk about it, to understand it to prevent it from happening. Talking about it and finding solutions is "praying". Some of you should really open dictionnaries once in a while. It's as if you dont even understand the meaning of the words you re using anymore.

Stop over thinking and over defining words for what it is. Discussing a subject with you is either beating a dead horse or going around in circles. I don't have time with this. Like I said, simply put either sending prayers or condolences.  End of story, no hard feelings.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Option D on December 14, 2012, 11:05:04 AM
I didn't bring it up. I was just responding to a post.

Newtown is my high school's rival in all sports. They had 0 black guys on their sports teams.

did they suck


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 11:06:30 AM
did they suck

Maybe - but they probably have little or no crime, very high literacy scores, low teen prego #, etc unlike Compton


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 11:06:38 AM
Nothing like a real Christian to resort to desperate personal attacks. You are complete hypocrite btw, always changing your stance and positions whenever it fits your dogma.
Hes also too stupid to realize that there is nothing christian when it comes to marriage in the United States unless you choose to put that kind of nonsensical bullshit into it.  Furthermore, marriage has been around a lot longer than worthless Christianity.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 11:07:19 AM
Only on GB can a tragedy like this turn into a religious debate. Good job, Uberasshole.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Thick Nick on December 14, 2012, 11:08:52 AM

Even if trained it causes confusion and makes it difficult for police to assess and contain the situation.  I'm a gun owner myself but I don't think it logically follows that more guns always equals greater safety.  To many people have fantasies of being John Wayne  

Again weak argument ... Everyone wants to be John Wayne... How would you knôw the shooter... How about a fucking uniform? Trained, armed, uniformed teachers. Maybe it would chase some of the libtards out of the profession. Or even better... how do you know the shooter? He's the dead asshole on the floor because he got shot dead before he killed a bunch of people? How's that for John Wayne?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 11:09:59 AM
Stop over thinking and over defining words for what it is. Discussing a subject with you is either beating a dead horse or going around in circles. I don't have time with this. Like I said, simply put either sending prayers or condolences.  End of story, no hard feelings.
Sorry for exposing the fact that you didnt know the definition of the word you were using and suggesting you open a dictionnary and look for it. Also maybe you should re read the Bible to understand the meaning of christians prayers in their past -and present- contexts.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Option D on December 14, 2012, 11:10:12 AM
Maybe - but they probably have little or no crime, very high literacy scores, low teen prego #, etc unlike Compton

They what.. the city.. the school.. What the fuck are you blabberinig about?...


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 11:10:47 AM
Hes also too stupid to realize that there is nothing christian when it comes to marriage in the United States unless you choose to put that kind of nonsensical bullshit into it.  Furthermore, marriage has been around a lot longer than worthless Christianity.
and you pretend to be educated when you cant even put things in order and perspective ?  What a bozo.

This quote would suit you well:

Quote
You are complete hypocrite btw, always changing your stance and positions whenever it fits your dogma.
thanks btw, "nomad".


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Conker on December 14, 2012, 11:13:03 AM
Again weak argument ... Everyone wants to be John Wayne... How would you knôw the shooter... How about a fucking uniform? Trained, armed, uniformed teachers. Maybe it would chase some of the libtards out of the profession. Or even better... how do you know the shooter? He's the dead asshole on the floor because he got shot dead before he killed a bunch of people? How's that for John Wayne?


Yes this is the way to go, have armed, uniformed teachers, better still have a tank outside every school, obviously makes more sense than just severely cutting the number of guns in circulation making it far more difficult for these lunatics to get one.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Thick Nick on December 14, 2012, 11:13:58 AM
Hey True Assdanus, were you making all these posts after Fort Hood? Just curious... and I lol at how you just parrot the popular view of everything. Someone says Muslims kill people... TA posts so do christians. Someone says Obama sucks... in comes TA posting a Bush story. It is so tired and predictable I can count how many posts before you post some dumb popularism view you found on msnbc.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 11:15:38 AM
Again weak argument ... Everyone wants to be John Wayne... How would you knôw the shooter... How about a fucking uniform? Trained, armed, uniformed teachers. Maybe it would chase some of the libtards out of the profession. Or even better... how do you know the shooter? He's the dead asshole on the floor because he got shot dead before he killed a bunch of people? How's that for John Wayne?

What I'm telling you is what members of law enforcement have told me.  Uniforms is a weak argument. The bad guy could just imitate it.  The police are going to assume anyone armed is dangerous.  


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Thick Nick on December 14, 2012, 11:17:08 AM

Yes this is the way to go, have armed, uniformed teachers, better still have a tank outside every school, obviously makes more sense than just severely cutting the number of guns in circulation making it far more difficult for these lunatics to get one.

Please explain for us how taking guns from law abiding citizens will stop this? Criminals will not turn in thier guns.... they are fucking criminals. But this law, they will follow?

Please enlighten us with your wisdom. We are waiting for your intelligent well thought out plan.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 11:17:17 AM
https://www.facebook.com/#!/rlanza?fref=ts


I think this is the guy  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 11:17:46 AM
You re seriously losing it lately. It's as if your logic was completely destroyed and you couldnt come with anything else but childish insults.

ah you know how it is your self
them 4 dry sucks / fucks must be making you cranky



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 14, 2012, 11:17:55 AM
Sorry for exposing the fact that you didnt know the definition of the word you were using and suggesting you open a dictionnary and look for it. Also maybe you should re read the Bible to understand the meaning of christians prayers in their past -and present- contexts.

Nobody needs a lesson in Semantics on what "prayer" is according to a massive dickhead such as yourself.  and it's just an excuse for you to get your fucking soapbox with your warped beliefs. a bunch of little kids got killed, people feel bad for them, shut the fuck up


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 11:18:23 AM
https://www.facebook.com/#!/rlanza?fref=ts


I think this is the guy  

BI saying this is the guy


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 11:19:03 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-shooting-gundman-2012-12



Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Thick Nick on December 14, 2012, 11:19:50 AM
What I'm telling you is what members of law enforcement have told me.  Uniforms is a weak argument. The bad guy could just imitate it.  The police are going to assume anyone armed is dangerous.  

What is this??? Die hard? Imitate the uniform? Really? That's the best you got?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Emmortal on December 14, 2012, 11:20:54 AM

Why do you think these incidents happen several times a year in the US? Its a bit harder for some loony to go stab 27 people to death.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/14/world/asia/china-knife-attack/index.html?npt=NP1


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 11:21:46 AM
Hey True Assdanus, were you making all these posts after Fort Hood? Just curious... and I lol at how you just parrot the popular view of everything. Someone says Muslims ki people... TA posts so do christians. Someone says Obama sucks... in comes TA posting a Bush story. It is so tired and predictable I can count how many posts before you post some dumb popularism view you found on msnbc.
that's the only way he found to get attention, simply parroting mainstream , pre fabricated stuff the majority already knows even if it goes nowhere. These people dont look for solutions, they just enforce what is already established even if it's detrimental to the group -but it's ok as long as it is not detrimental to their daily life-.
Paper warriors.
Typical of a self proclaimed pseudo intellectual who always swim in the direction of the flow without even questionning it. Exposure is what he s interested in, not finding deeply thoughts solutions, cause he s simply not able to produce the intellectual work to do so. Doesnt want to change things and put the efforts in it or risk his image, just want to be looked at and be acclaimed.

True anus has nothing else to show off, dude never developped any kind of constructed argument anywhere. When facing people who do, he disappears in a childish anger.  He d better stay in the kitchen while his rich wife is the breadwinner before pretending to be a man.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 11:22:48 AM
NBC reports that the gunman shot and killed his mother, who was a teacher at the school, in New Jersey before heading to the school.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 11:24:31 AM
the shooters Weapon


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-GJSUFCUAANr51.jpg:large)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Twaddle on December 14, 2012, 11:24:51 AM
that's the only way he found to get attention, simply parroting mainstream , pre fabricated stuff the majority already knows even if it goes nowhere. These people dont look for solutions, they just enforce what is already established even if it's detrimental to the group -but it's ok as long as it is not detrimental to their daily life-.
Paper warriors.
Typical of a self proclaimed pseudo intellectual who always swim in the direction of the flow without even questionning it. Exposure is what he s interested in, not finding deeply thoughts solutions, cause he s simply not able to produce the intellectual work to do so.

True anus has nothing else to show off, dude never developped any kind of constructed argument anywhere. When facing people who do, he disappears in a childish anger.  He d better stay in the kitchen while his rich wife is the breadwinner before pretending to be a man.

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/24186690.jpg)


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 11:25:25 AM
What is this??? Die hard? Imitate the uniform? Really? That's the best you got?

If they are intent on shooting why wouldn't they?  Arming teachers and putting them in uniforms is a bit fanciful.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 11:25:28 AM
Been confirmed that its Ryan Lanza. He has a FB.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 11:26:37 AM
Been confirmed that its Ryan Lanza. He has a FB.

I posted it above. 



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 11:26:40 AM
Fucking media calling James Holmes, John Holmes.  Some newscasters have porn in their brains.

Compare this guy to the right person, not a porn star


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Conker on December 14, 2012, 11:28:03 AM
Please explain for us how taking guns from law abiding citizens will stop this? Criminals will not turn in thier guns.... they are fucking criminals. But this law, they will follow?

Please enlighten us with your wisdom. We are waiting for your intelligent well thought out plan.


What you need is some kind of amnesty, a time period in which people can go hand in their firearms whether they are permitted to own them or not(no punishment). After that period you tighten the gun licensing criteria more in line with the rest of the developed world. So you have far fewer people who can legally own a friearm and far less in circulation.

Then introduce a very high mandatory sentence like 10yrs prison for anyone caught in possession of one, no quibble sentence, if you're caught with one its a 10yrs no argument.
We have 5yrs in the UK but due to the position you're already in i think would need to be higher. Then see how many petty criminals want to carry guns like fashion accessories.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Big N on December 14, 2012, 11:28:50 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-shooting-gundman-2012-12



Is this the alleged shooter?
Quote
NBC reports that the gunman shot and killed his mother, who was a teacher at the school, in New Jersey before heading to the school.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 11:29:26 AM
Shooter ID'd as Ryan Lanza




Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: daddy8ball on December 14, 2012, 11:30:32 AM

What you need is some kind of amnesty, a time period in which people can go hand in their firearms whether they are permitted to own them or not(no punishment). After that period you tighten the gun licensing criteria more in line with the rest of the developed world. So you have far fewer people who can legally own a friearm and far less in circulation.

Then introduce a very high mandatory sentence like 10yrs prison for anyone caught in possession of one, no quibble sentence, if you're caught with one its a 10yrs no argument.
We have 5yrs in the UK but due to the position you're already in i think would need to be higher. Then see how many petty criminals want to carry guns like fashion accessories.

That's nice. But if you're in the mindset to obtain a weapon and go on a mass killing spree...and then ending your life...I don't think that you're going to be worried about being caught with an illegal weapon.

Also, they can ban guns outright 100%. But one will still be able to buy one from the trunk of a car in a seedy portion of a major city.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: maxkane69 on December 14, 2012, 11:31:55 AM
The natural result of a Godless anti-christ society.

You talk like an ignorant fanatic religious retard (by the way being fanatic religious imply always being ignorant and retard)!!!
Go back and study the histotry of mankind and you'll learn than trough the history worst atrocity have been made in the name of God !!!
Google to Crusades and you'll discover about the Christian atrocity of the past !!!
Christians in the past were just like integralist fanatic terrorist muslims now !!!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 11:32:09 AM
They just announced they found a dead body in his house as well.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 11:32:20 AM
If uberman had a son he would look like Ryan


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 11:33:14 AM
Some dickhead already made a RIP facebook about this fucking coward



http://www.facebook.com/RIPRyanLanza (http://www.facebook.com/RIPRyanLanza)


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Thick Nick on December 14, 2012, 11:33:34 AM
see how the uk does it

Explain it to us Sherlock Homley. Including how thier crime rates skyrocketed after they started taking guns away.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 11:34:30 AM
that's the only way he found to get attention, simply parroting mainstream , pre fabricated stuff the majority already knows even if it goes nowhere. These people dont look for solutions, they just enforce what is already established even if it's detrimental to the group -but it's ok as long as it is not detrimental to their daily life-.
Paper warriors.
Typical of a self proclaimed pseudo intellectual who always swim in the direction of the flow without even questionning it. Exposure is what he s interested in, not finding deeply thoughts solutions, cause he s simply not able to produce the intellectual work to do so. Doesnt want to change things and put the efforts in it or risk his image, just want to be looked at and be acclaimed.

True anus has nothing else to show off, dude never developped any kind of constructed argument anywhere. When facing people who do, he disappears in a childish anger.  He d better stay in the kitchen while his rich wife is the breadwinner before pretending to be a man.
::)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nomad on December 14, 2012, 11:34:52 AM
Some dickhead already made a RIP facebook about this fucking coward



http://www.facebook.com/RIPRyanLanza (http://www.facebook.com/RIPRyanLanza)

4chan strong  ::)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Conker on December 14, 2012, 11:35:06 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/14/world/asia/china-knife-attack/index.html?npt=NP1


That story 22 wounded with a knife, none dead AFIA. I'd much rath a loony with a knife than a gun...You're never gonna stop loonies from doing sh@t like this, but your gun laws make it far too easy for these loonies to get weapons that will cause maximum damage.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Thick Nick on December 14, 2012, 11:35:40 AM

What you need is some kind of amnesty, a time period in which people can go hand in their firearms whether they are permitted to own them or not(no punishment). After that period you tighten the gun licensing criteria more in line with the rest of the developed world. So you have far fewer people who can legally own a friearm and far less in circulation.

Then introduce a very high mandatory sentence like 10yrs prison for anyone caught in possession of one, no quibble sentence, if you're caught with one its a 10yrs no argument.
We have 5yrs in the UK but due to the position you're already in i think would need to be higher. Then see how many petty criminals want to carry guns like fashion accessories.
This just in... this is already what we do. It don't work. Try again.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 11:35:41 AM
America, the land of fucktards.  9/11 happens and the USA spends Trillions on the War on Terror and killed hundreds of thousands.  THousand die every year from gun violence and the politicians look the other way to not upset hunters.  Fucking useless


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 11:36:50 AM
http://www.facebook.com/rlanza?fref=ts (http://www.facebook.com/rlanza?fref=ts)


 ??? ???


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 11:37:04 AM
Some dickhead already made a RIP facebook about this fucking coward



http://www.facebook.com/RIPRyanLanza (http://www.facebook.com/RIPRyanLanza)

Free country.  Plus facebook is gay


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: daddy8ball on December 14, 2012, 11:37:22 AM
https://twitter.com/Fletch788/status/279668466150166528/photo/1

Wasn't the Ryan Lanza everyone is linking to.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 11:38:26 AM
Wow, so this guy killed his mom who was a teacher then went to the school to kill her students.  What a fucking loser.  Why don't schools have a security guard?

Jewish school near my house looks like a military compound with the security they have


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 11:39:18 AM
lol killer is probably son of an atheist democrat voting parents who spent his life watching violent movies instead of working/studying...Christian parents control the content of what their kids watch. To act the way these monsters do, you need to imitate something you ve seen first. Wonder what his mother/parents did to him for him to end doing such nonsense. What a coward. Fucking kids. This is what your ATHEIST SOCIETY PRODUCES, you hypocrits.

Guns are tools, just like rocks, hammers, cars , knives... what matters is what is in the man or woman 's mind who carries it. The real question is how did this dude's family produces such a monster, period.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Big N on December 14, 2012, 11:40:22 AM
http://www.facebook.com/rlanza?fref=ts (http://www.facebook.com/rlanza?fref=ts)


 ??? ???

This is his personal facebook, check out his older stories section with the grand theft auto clip.

 http://www.facebook.com/rlanza


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Conker on December 14, 2012, 11:41:21 AM
That's nice. But if you're in the mindset to obtain a weapon and go on a mass killing spree...and then ending your life...I don't think that you're going to be worried about being caught with an illegal weapon.

Also, they can ban guns outright 100%. But one will still be able to buy one from the trunk of a car in a seedy portion of a major city.


Yes but even if you have the mindset to do that in the UK or most parts of Europe its still very difficult to get your hands on a firearm. Whereas these geeky kids that are continually going on shooting in the US are obviously not finding it too difficult.

I'm not saying you will ever outright stop gun crime but if you seriously cut down the guns in circulation gun crime figures will follow.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 11:42:23 AM
already a few Facebook pages created


Ryan Lanza you were a Coward
Community · 337 likes
Ryan Lanza est un fou
Community · 2 likes
Ryan Lanza FUCK You
Community · 21 likes
Ryan lanza may u rest in hell
Community · 15 likes
Ryan Lanza Conneticut Shooter - Rot in Hell
Community · 171 likes
Ryan Lanza SUCKS
News Personality · 25 likes
Ryan Lanza Deserved To Die
Community · 45 likes
Ryan Lanza should burn in hell.
Public Figure · 20 likes
Ryan Lanza BAMF
Community · 1 like
Ryan Lanza - Murderer
Public Figure · 15 likes
Ryan Lanza Mass Murderer
Community · 4 likes
Fuck Ryan Lanza


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: daddy8ball on December 14, 2012, 11:42:54 AM

Yes but even if you have the mindset to do that in the UK or most parts of Europe its still very difficult to get your hands on a firearm. Whereas these geeky kids that are continually going on shooting in the US are obviously not finding it too difficult.

I'm not saying you will ever outright stop gun crime but if you seriously cut down the guns in circulation gun crime figures will follow.

I dunno. Prohibition seriously cut down on the amount of alcohol in circulation.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: maxkane69 on December 14, 2012, 11:43:27 AM

LOL,
This is what you get when your government doesn't provide mental care for every citizen whether they are capable to pay for it or not.

You forgot to mention that this is a result also of a governement that let everybody buy a guns !
Ban the sale of guns or make very hard to get them like they do in Europe and shit like this will not happen !
It is not a case that massive killings like that happen a lot more frequently in USA than in Europe !


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: lvtolft on December 14, 2012, 11:44:10 AM

Yes but even if you have the mindset to do that in the UK or most parts of Europe its still very difficult to get your hands on a firearm. Whereas these geeky kids that are continually going on shooting in the US are obviously not finding it too difficult.

I'm not saying you will ever outright stop gun crime but if you seriously cut down the guns in circulation gun crime figures will follow.
I couldn't agree more. The less guns you have available, the less likely these things happen.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Conker on December 14, 2012, 11:45:07 AM
This just in... this is already what we do. It don't work. Try again.

lol so you have very tight gun licensing laws nationwide? From my reading in many states you need little more than an ID card and a clean criminal record to buy one? You already have 10yr mandatory sentences for simple possession of a firearm?



Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 11:46:10 AM
I couldn't agree more. The less guns you have available, the less likely these things happen.

But, but, but what about the hunters????????  They need access to military grade assault weapons for hunting squirrels.  I ahte when politicians justify guns because of hunters.  Just go to the grocery store and buy your meat like everyone else.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 11:47:03 AM
This guy killed his parents, the father in the house, and then went to kill the mother and her students


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 11:47:54 AM
Doesn't america have thousands of soldiers that are paid salaries that do fuck all? Why not assign one per school for security duty?  They are paying them anyways.  Have them on a rotation.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 14, 2012, 11:48:09 AM
why curious about the race or religion?

more than anything it has to do with american todays culture and gun ownerships.

a tragedy, i dont think thats the proper term, i mean what do you expect if you give a machinegun(deadly weapon) to a monkey(american)?

youre not allowed to drink a beer until 21 in the usa and its outlawed to buy a hooker in many states, but getting a gu legaly is no problem.



because there were initial reports of two gunmen, normally this shit is one fucking psychopath, as more info comes in it seems that's the case. i was thinking terrorism to be honest


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: lvtolft on December 14, 2012, 11:49:40 AM
But, but, but what about the hunters????????  They need access to military grade assault weapons for hunting squirrels.  I ahte when politicians justify guns because of hunters.  Just go to the grocery store and buy your meat like everyone else.
Lol!  Exactly. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nomad on December 14, 2012, 11:51:06 AM
This is his personal facebook, check out his older stories section with the grand theft auto clip.

 http://www.facebook.com/rlanza

Hey, this is not the shooter. Better remove those links.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 11:51:57 AM
Banning guns isn't going to cure the mentality in our society that violence is a viable solution.  Banning guns is a band aid


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 11:54:30 AM
Banning guns isn't going to cure the mentality in our society that violence is a viable solution.  Banning guns is a band aid

We need more guns.  One in the hands of every man, woman or child. Only the strong err, I mean best shot survive.  ???


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 11:57:09 AM
We need more guns.  One in the hands of every man, woman or child. Only the strong err, I mean best shot survive.  ???

What I'm saying is that a component of the gun violence problem is a cultural one.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 11:58:38 AM
i was watching the news and they interviewed a teacher

"the kids were telling miss??? i dont want to die, i just want Christmas, i just wants christmas, i told her you will have christmas, you will have Hanukkah dont worry"

Why did the teacher say     Hanukkah if the kid said she wanted christmas  ??? ???


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 11:59:04 AM
its a start, though.but i see what you mean, if you ban guns but still have many criminal minds out there ready for violence either way.

ah cool.i know its not the moment for jokes but i find it interesting that americans would suspect terrorism(well,it is) when these mass school shootings are quite common and frequent.

europe has almost double the population the usa has, yet these mass shootings are rare.

i remember one in germany and the breivik nutcase

Typical live in fear white america thinks everything is terrorism and overract then once they know an arab wasn't invovled move on and hug their guns telling them how much they love them.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: chaos on December 14, 2012, 11:59:26 AM
Sad shit. Leave it to the anti gun nuts to use this tragedy to push their agenda. ::)

Banning guns only affects law abiding citizens. Case closed.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 12:00:37 PM
the insane dont know theyre insane
they do, but are convinced there wont be any consequencies to their actions wether they re good or bad, especially after their death wether it's self inflicted or not. Someone who fears God and believes in Heaven and Hell wont do bad fearing to suffer after his death if he did wrong while alive. Someone who thinks there is nothing after death, and that self inflicted death equals the end of his suffering on earth wont care and will only satisfy his current hunger for destruction. To end thinking that way, this person has to have been conditionned,designed for decades, to become that senseless monster, by ...someone else. What would be interesting would be to know what is on this dude's computer harddrive or what his dvd collection looks like, what the family life looked like..


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Rudee on December 14, 2012, 12:03:17 PM
Wow, so this guy killed his mom who was a teacher then went to the school to kill her students. 



That statement doesn't make sense.   What do you mean "killed his mom and then went to the school to kill her students"?    If she was a teacher, he would already be at the school when he killed his Mom.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Wiggs on December 14, 2012, 12:04:38 PM
Guess the race. The white menace must be stopped.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 12:06:04 PM
Guess the race. The white menace must be stopped.

White People should not be allowed to buy guns


black people should not be allowed to buy stolen guns


World Peace will follow


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 12:06:10 PM
That statement doesn't make sense.   What do you mean "killed his mom and then went to the school to kill her students"?    If she was a teacher, he would already be at the school when he killed his Mom.

It is now being reportd he killed his dad at the home, then went to the school to kill his mom and children.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 12:10:29 PM
White People should not be allowed to buy guns
black people should not be allowed to buy stolen guns
World Peace will follow

do you mean
White People should be allowed to buy stolen guns
black people should  be allowed to buy guns
?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 12:10:52 PM
China Man Wan Bee Famoose chew





 www.indianexpress.com/news/chinse-man-goes-on-stabbing-spree-at-a-school-22-kids-hurt/1045394/ (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/chinse-man-goes-on-stabbing-spree-at-a-school-22-kids-hurt/1045394/)



Chinese man goes on stabbing spree at a school: 22 kids hurt



The dreaded attacks on school children returned to haunt China today after 22 of them were injured besides an 85-year-old woman after a "mentally deranged" man, armed with a knife, went on a slashing spree at a primary school.

Armed with a knife Min Yingjun, 36 attacked group of children at the gate of a primary school in central China's Henan Province setting off panic in the village.

The woman and most of the injured students suffered head wounds.

Some of them were in shock, according to the People's Hospital of the county, which received most of the people injured in the attack.

All the injured people have been sent to three local hospitals and at least two of them, one student and an 85-year-old woman, are in serious condition, state-run Xinhua news agency reported.

The attack took place this morning at the entrance of Chenpeng Village Primary School in Wenshu Township of Guangshan County in the city of Xinyang.

Local police said they had detained Min, stated to be mentally deranged person.

Min burst into the 85-year-old woman's house, located next to the school and went baresark after an argument, according to the daughter of the old woman.

Liu is said to have seized a knife at the house and attacked the elderly woman.

He then left, rushed into the school campus and slashed students, according to villagers.

The suspect was unknown in the village and might be mentally ill, some villagers said.

"I want to go home," cried a 7-year-old student surnamed Wei, who arrived at the hospital in a serious condition with a skull fracture.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 12:11:47 PM
do you mean
White People should be allowed to buy stolen guns
black people should  be allowed to buy guns
?


Yes exactly

White people to scared to buy stolen property

black people to cheap to afford a new gun

problemO Solved


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Wiggs on December 14, 2012, 12:11:55 PM
White People should not be allowed to buy guns


black people should not be allowed to buy stolen guns


World Peace will follow

THE WHITE MENACE MUST BE STOPPED! >:(


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Alti Bautista on December 14, 2012, 12:12:08 PM
Dont remember christians going to schools killing kids...wtf are you babbling about sf1900 ? BTW christians warriors changed the world for good, not for the worst, just like it will be needed again. Sure some werent real christians and gave christianism a bad name, but it's up to you to denigrate the faith they pretended to endorse when yourself dont even know what this faith is truly about, basically being yourself a brainwashed ignorant atheist who never read the Bible in the first place before making up your mind about it.

Only lost atheists or muslims would go to schools to kill...atheists or christian , buddhist, kids. Only a lost atheist beleiving in absurdity, would go kill other people kids to release his anger/frustration. This is the definition of insanity.

I also doubt there will be more muslim terror acts in north america, as the real danger now is a population of millions of people losing their jobs, homes, families, due to the depression we re in for at least 30 years. Atheists will lose everything and will want to make the "society" pay, because atheists arent part of a society, their superficial society is only an illusion where everyone is egocentrical, cynical, hypocrit and attempts to fuck each others in the ass, the opposite of a christian community.

Japan will collapse, then europe, then the united states, and the real danger will be your atheist neighbor who once he loses all his material goods, will either choose to become spiritual again by necessity, or devolve into an animal. Odds are high most people will devolve into animals and that only a strong faithful life protecting minority will stay spiritual and survive. Then they ll have to fight chinese and muslims who will take over whole  eurasia, africa and australia.




Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 12:16:39 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/video/abc-news-plus-special-report-220000361.html (http://news.yahoo.com/video/abc-news-plus-special-report-220000361.html)


OBAMA LIVE FEED NOW

here comes the gun control issue bill


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 12:17:41 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/video/abc-news-plus-special-report-220000361.html (http://news.yahoo.com/video/abc-news-plus-special-report-220000361.html)


OBAMA LIVE FEED NOW

here comes the gun control issue bill
Lol...pointless.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 12:18:03 PM
China Man Wan Bee Famoose chew
 www.indianexpress.com/news/chinse-man-goes-on-stabbing-spree-at-a-school-22-kids-hurt/1045394/ (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/chinse-man-goes-on-stabbing-spree-at-a-school-22-kids-hurt/1045394/)
-

a knife, has he not heard of US knowhow and productivity ?


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Alti Bautista on December 14, 2012, 12:19:32 PM
Dont remember christians going to schools killing kids...wtf are you babbling about sf1900 ? BTW christians warriors changed the world for good, not for the worst, just like it will be needed again. Sure some werent real christians and gave christianism a bad name, but it's up to you to denigrate the faith they pretended to endorse when yourself dont even know what this faith is truly about, basically being yourself a brainwashed ignorant atheist who never read the Bible in the first place before making up your mind about it.

Only lost atheists or muslims would go to schools to kill...atheists or christian , buddhist, kids. Only a lost atheist beleiving in absurdity, would go kill other people kids to release his anger/frustration. This is the definition of insanity.

I also doubt there will be more muslim terror acts in north america, as the real danger now is a population of millions of people losing their jobs, homes, families, due to the depression we re in for at least 30 years. Atheists will lose everything and will want to make the "society" pay, because atheists arent part of a society, their superficial society is only an illusion where everyone is egocentrical, cynical, hypocrit and attempts to fuck each others in the ass, the opposite of a christian community.

Japan will collapse, then europe, then the united states, and the real danger will be your atheist neighbor who once he loses all his material goods, will either choose to become spiritual again by necessity, or devolve into an animal. Odds are high most people will devolve into animals and that only a strong faithful life protecting minority will stay spiritual and survive. Then they ll have to fight chinese and muslims who will take over whole  eurasia, africa and australia.



SHUT THE FUCK UP PLEASE!!!! Go fuck your wife in ass and reshape her into a real christion women... In Jesus name "AMEN"  now go away you fungus!!!



Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Wiggs on December 14, 2012, 12:20:53 PM
SHUT THE FUCK UP PLEASE!!!! Go fuck your wife in ass and reshape her into a real christion women... In Jesus name "AMEN"  now go away you fungus!!!



lol


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: chaos on December 14, 2012, 12:21:14 PM
If Obama passes a bill, I buy a dozen guns off the  record.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 12:21:41 PM
That statement doesn't make sense.   What do you mean "killed his mom and then went to the school to kill her students"?    If she was a teacher, he would already be at the school when he killed his Mom.

apparently she didn't show up to work that morning.  He killed her at home, at least according to ABC news


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 12:21:46 PM
Guess the race. The white menace must be stopped.


A Black man kills, he's a menace to society.
A Foreign man kills, he's a terrorist.
But a White man kills, he's psychologically unstable.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 12:22:21 PM
SHUT THE FUCK UP PLEASE!!!! Go fuck your wife in ass and reshape her into a real christion women... In Jesus name "AMEN"  now go away you fungus!!!


That was really interesting. Proving us again you have a lot of knowledges to bring to a conversation about serious matters. You can whine all you want you still dont have any control over what anyone can post on here.

 Speaking of assholes, i really tore you a new one it seems judging by your recently found anger toward me. You should stop puting males hormones in your body, looks like it makes you lose your temper.
 Btw, anal games are for low lives life you, as a Christian I'm not interested in that "shit". I hope you genuinely  keep spreading my posts to millions of women btw.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Wiggs on December 14, 2012, 12:23:52 PM

A Black man kills, he's a menace to society.
A Foreign man kills, he's a terrorist.
But a White man kills, he's psychologically unstable.

It's crazy isn't it? :-X :-X :-X


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 12:24:38 PM

A Black man kills, he's a menace to society.
A Foreign man kills, he's a terrorist.
But a White man kills, he's psychologically unstable.

This is just untrue.   A black man kills hes a victim of his upbringing, being fatherless, society or institutionalized racism.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 12:24:54 PM
It's crazy isn't it? :-X :-X :-X

Shouldn't you not be caring since we are all dying in exactly 7 days from now?


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 12:28:38 PM
That was really interesting.

 Speaking of assholes, i really tore you a new one it seems judging by your recently found anger toward me. You should stop puting males hormones in your body, looks like it makes you lose your temper.
 Btw, anal games are for low lives life you, as a Christian I'm not interested in that "shit". I hope you genuinely  keep spreading my posts to millions of women btw.

Mr Uberman
If you were up to your neck in shit and someone threw a bucket of snot at your head what would you do ?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Wiggs on December 14, 2012, 12:29:52 PM
Shouldn't you not be caring since we are all dying in exactly 7 days from now?

Don't twist my words.  Go reread my posts. If there's anything that happens it will be at the hand of man. A false alien attack would be a great tool to usher in a new world order. The world will not end. It doesn't say so in the Bible.  We are getting close though, how close?  I don't know. We still haven't seen the anti christ and, we aren't in a on world government yet.  Yes, the bible actually states, there will be a one world government.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: njflex on December 14, 2012, 12:31:28 PM

A Black man kills, he's a menace to society.
A Foreign man kills, he's a terrorist.
But a White man kills, he's psychologically unstable.
SUMMED UP WELL...


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 12:35:24 PM
Handguns were made for killing, they ain't no good for nothin' else.    -Ronnie V


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: gmflex on December 14, 2012, 12:36:13 PM
Using that logic that means we also need ban:  flying in airplanes, driving cars, booze, smoking, prescription meds, and don't forget forks and spoons for making people fat.

  



These are kids at a school.. they didn't get a chance to choose if they wanted to live ..
This would not of happened if the fucker had no gun
You have a choice to fly / drive/ booze.. etc.... this were kids killed by a stupid fuk with a gun!
We need better gun control
 >:(


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 12:37:47 PM


These are kids at a school.. they didn't get a chance to choose if they wanted to live ..
This would not of happened if the fucker had no gun
You have a choice to fly / drive/ booze.. etc.... this were kids killed by a stupid fuk with a gun!
We need better gun control
 >:(

this young atheist democrat voting kid probably stole weapons from someone who was suposed to stock them in secure place with ammo and gun separated and protected by locks... It's another story if he purchased them legally all by himself. A logic requirment would be to prove you are mentally healthy before buying weapons, but it s already somewhat of a condition when you apply for a gun registration after you obtained you were succesful in the test. I dont know how it works in that particular state of the USA, but here in canada the government and military police make a little survey , interogate your siblings etc before handing you the permit.

Anyway, nothing can prevent someone unhappy to pretend he s happy enough to be able to obtain guns...
At the end of the day the real question is: what did that kid have in his head, and how he became so fucked up. Considering he killed his parents first and foremost, we might never know as they were the first responsible for all of this, one way or another. Had they been alive, they could have said nothing even knowing what was their part of responsability in the process of transforming their son into such a monster.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 12:37:54 PM
(https://images.4chan.org/pol/src/1355516924315.png)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 12:40:45 PM
Why does Obama have to pretend to be crying by wiping away tears  ???.




Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 12:41:08 PM
Why does Obama have to pretend to be crying by wiping away tears  ???.




because it works on his base and cult following of idiots 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 12:42:04 PM
SUMMED UP WELL...

No, its not. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Heywood on December 14, 2012, 12:43:22 PM
because it works on his base and cult following of idiots 

Betsy Wetsy for president.........he's doing his schtick.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nicademus on December 14, 2012, 12:43:31 PM
Saw this a few minutes ago.


Andrew Sullivan prints an astute comment about gun control from a reader. http://andrewsullivan....
"In a remarkable coincidence, just as people were learning about the Connecticut elementary school shooting, we were also reading about a knife attack on elementary school kids in China. While both events are horrific and indicative of mental illnesses in their perpetrators, the contrast is clear: Without a gun, one deranged maniac was able to severely wound 22 kids, but, as of this writing, none of them have died. With a gun, another deranged maniac was able to shoot dead more than two dozen people in a matter of minutes." 36 minutes ago


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: njflex on December 14, 2012, 12:44:02 PM
No, its not. 
CARE TO ADD..


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Gosling31977 on December 14, 2012, 12:44:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq32_26Vpno


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 12:45:03 PM

3:29 PM – Today
Report: Suspect's brother found dead in NJ



 @ sinderbrandCNN : From CNN Justice Prod Terry Frieden: Sr law enforcement official familiar w/investigation says Ryan Lanza's brother found dead in Hoboken
 




twitter


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: gmflex on December 14, 2012, 12:45:08 PM
Handguns were made for killing, they ain't no good for nothin' else.    -Ronnie V



QFT
ENOUGH WITH The NRA BULLSHIT...
 >:(
They are the biggest lobbyist in Washington ...


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: G_Thang on December 14, 2012, 12:45:25 PM

A Black man kills, he's a menace to society.
A Foreign man kills, he's a terrorist.
But a White man kills, he's psychologically unstable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-FkkpLOyOg


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 12:45:26 PM
Why does Obama have to pretend to be crying by wiping away tears  ???.




lol, he wasn't crying.  I saw his speech, it looked like this


"our children are innocent"

--Pause, look down and count to 10 slowly

"Families can't hug their children"

--Pause again, count to five, big swallow, wipe your right eye

OF COURSE OBAMA WIPES THE TOP OF HIS EYE, MAYBE HIS TEARS ROLL UP

"The brave parents who were there"

-Pause, count to 3, stay looking down, wipe left eye

"god bless you"



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: gmflex on December 14, 2012, 12:46:18 PM
Saw this a few minutes ago.


Andrew Sullivan prints an astute comment about gun control from a reader. http://andrewsullivan....
"In a remarkable coincidence, just as people were learning about the Connecticut elementary school shooting, we were also reading about a knife attack on elementary school kids in China. While both events are horrific and indicative of mental illnesses in their perpetrators, the contrast is clear: Without a gun, one deranged maniac was able to severely wound 22 kids, but, as of this writing, none of them have died. With a gun, another deranged maniac was able to shoot dead more than two dozen people in a matter of minutes." 36 minutes ago





Qft


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 12:47:11 PM




Qft


ninja skills > guns


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 12:47:39 PM
Saw this a few minutes ago.


Andrew Sullivan prints an astute comment about gun control from a reader. http://andrewsullivan....
"In a remarkable coincidence, just as people were learning about the Connecticut elementary school shooting, we were also reading about a knife attack on elementary school kids in China. While both events are horrific and indicative of mental illnesses in their perpetrators, the contrast is clear: Without a gun, one deranged maniac was able to severely wound 22 kids, but, as of this writing, none of them have died. With a gun, another deranged maniac was able to shoot dead more than two dozen people in a matter of minutes." 36 minutes ago
yeah, humans are all the same. And the same troubles during childhood, the same mistratments by parents, lead to the same consequencies worldwide. That's the only solid and realistic conclusion of both stories.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 12:48:36 PM
CARE TO ADD..

A black person kills or harms someone hes a victim of his upbringing, being fatherless, society or institutionalized racism.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Conker on December 14, 2012, 12:48:45 PM
Thing that always get me when these incidents occur. The nut nuts come out saying "watch the anti gun lobbyists use this to push their agenda"

And what is that agenda?...oh yeh ,try and cut gun crime and prevent the bi monthly lunatic shooting sprees ... evil agenda ???


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 12:48:47 PM
yeah, humans are all the same. And the same troubles during childhood, the same mistratments by parents, lead to the same consequencies worldwide. That's the only solid and realistic conclusion of both stories.

Does anyone still beleive in God when this happens?  Proof again God doesn't exist.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: L00n on December 14, 2012, 12:50:14 PM
 (http://www.picvalley.net/u/2020/179128879314224190131355518205fe7gaPG4SA7pHK06Qn51.PNG) (http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2020/179128879314224190131355518205fe7gaPG4SA7pHK06Qn51.PNG)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 12:50:27 PM
Reporting locally that he may have killed his girlfriend too.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 12:51:24 PM
Why does Obama have to pretend to be crying by wiping away tears  ???.



i havent seen his comedic act, but i guess in substance he said or will say "we are going to do anything in our power so it never happen again"  ::) Oh yeah, seriously?

Will he then rechristianize american society?




Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 12:51:47 PM
(http://www.picvalley.net/u/2020/179128879314224190131355518205fe7gaPG4SA7pHK06Qn51.PNG) (http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2020/179128879314224190131355518205fe7gaPG4SA7pHK06Qn51.PNG)

Huh?  Who made this?  They are talking about banning them from the school.  Doesn't mean you can't buy them from the walmart down the street.  Who is the fucking idiot that made this?  Needs to be beaten.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Alti Bautista on December 14, 2012, 12:51:58 PM
Mr Uberman
If you were up to your neck in shit and someone threw a bucket of snot at your head what would you do ?


Uberman, you truly are a mentally disturbed... And A WASTE OF SPACE!! I feel sorry for ANYONE who has to spend minutes around you especially your wife! She dying a slow and painful death! Poor thing! I pray for her... In Jesus name... AMEN!  :-[


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 12:52:40 PM
Does anyone still beleive in God when this happens?  Proof again God doesn't exist.
You dont understand God cause you take no time in your existence to try to understand Him and His creation. As simple as that. God isnt a dude in the sky who tell people what to do, good or bad. He s the form of life that created life on earth initially and left His creation a guide . Those who read the guide and want to become like God survive, others disapear in a long and designed process of selection. Anything that exists has to have a purpose, or it wouldnt exist. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: nzmusclemonster on December 14, 2012, 12:53:01 PM
You homies need to move to NZ.

This shit never happens here.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 12:53:49 PM
You dont understand God cause you take no time in your existence to try to understand Him and His creation. As simple as that.

Well the god of the bible is a known mass murderer and child killer.  Remember Egypt and we can't forget the great flood where he wiped out most of humanity


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: njflex on December 14, 2012, 12:54:54 PM
A black person kills or harms someone hes a victim of his upbringing, being fatherless, society or institutionalized racism.
THERE YA GO,,,


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 12:55:46 PM
THERE YA GO,,,

Well, Im right.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 12:55:47 PM
You dont understand God cause you take no time in your existence to try to understand Him and His creation. As simple as that. God isnt a dude in the sky who tell people what to do, good or bad. He s the form of life that created life on earth initially and left His creation a guide . Those who read the guide and want to become like God survive, others disapear.

It's funny having a made up God.  You can make up shit without having to prove it.  It's god's will.  God's plan,blah blah.  You christans are the ultimate joke.  beleiving in a make believe character.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 12:56:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW_0pGqfr-E


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 12:56:47 PM
Well the god of the bible is a known mass murderer and child killer.  Remember Egypt.
Those who follow God kill His ennemies, right. That's part of the process of selection, that's part of the plan. Still you have the choice to be on His side or not.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 12:59:30 PM
You homies need to move to NZ.

This shit never happens here.

are you so sure?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Alex23 on December 14, 2012, 01:00:11 PM
You homies need to move to NZ.

This shit never happens here.

NZ of peace  ::)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 01:00:18 PM
Those who follow God kill His ennemies, right. That's part of the process of selection, that's part of the plan. Still you have the choice to be on His side or not.

Do you make this shit up as you go?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: chaos on December 14, 2012, 01:00:43 PM
Gun control...only applies to law abiding citizens.

Idiots. Ban guns and they start making bombs....oh wait, bombs are surely illegal so that Timothy McWhackjob would never do that.... ::)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 01:01:51 PM
Didn't Obama's  FAST AND FURIOUS sell 2,000+ brand new AR-15 to Drug runners on the boarders of america, which Half of them Made it over to america for sale


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 01:02:53 PM
Those who follow God kill His ennemies, right. That's part of the process of selection, that's part of the plan. Still you have the choice to be on His side or not.

so Moses told a few (10) porkies?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 01:02:54 PM
Gun control...only applies to law abiding citizens.

Idiots. Ban guns and they start making bombs....oh wait, bombs are surely illegal so that Timothy McWhackjob would never do that.... ::)

The problem is it would take decades to clear out the inventory of guns alread out there.  I hear the average was 3 guns per person.  Gun control makes sense when it has been law for decades.  But you are going to still have thousand of gang members with their guns, crazy folks with theirs but no new guns being sold because of the law.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Alti Bautista on December 14, 2012, 01:03:11 PM
Believe in God... And believe in the Devil! Theres yin/yan;Good/Bad. I believe the bad runs this world
And we have  to live in it. I believe in being the person you can possibily be and live in the best way you could without hurting others,it's Our time to leave this world. This is so sad, I can't imagine what these parents are going through.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: nzmusclemonster on December 14, 2012, 01:03:29 PM
are you so sure?


LOL I think it would make the news if it did, so yes I'm sure.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 01:04:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBfdl6hNZ9k


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Marty Champions on December 14, 2012, 01:04:20 PM


Only lost atheists or muslims would go to schools to kill...atheists or christian , buddhist, kids. Only a lost atheist beleiving in absurdity, would go kill other people kids to release his anger/frustration. This is the definition of insanity.





good post


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Conker on December 14, 2012, 01:04:30 PM
(http://www.picvalley.net/u/2020/179128879314224190131355518205fe7gaPG4SA7pHK06Qn51.PNG) (http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2020/179128879314224190131355518205fe7gaPG4SA7pHK06Qn51.PNG)


FFS you mean some schools in the US actually allow guns! ???


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: blacken700 on December 14, 2012, 01:06:02 PM
because it works on his base and cult following of idiots 

what he fuck is wrong with you,what a fucking low life


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 01:07:11 PM
Those who follow God kill His ennemies, right. That's part of the process of selection, that's part of the plan. Still you have the choice to be on His side or not.

Those little babies who were slaughtered by god had a choice in the matter?  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 01:07:56 PM
Oh brother fucking NEWS reporters

Now they are saying ryan lanza isn't the shooter the dude in glasses , Ryan is the older brother of the shooter , the Shooter is now named as ADAM lanza


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 01:09:20 PM
now they say this guy RYAN is the older brother of the shooter Adam






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Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 01:10:07 PM
LOL I think it would make the news if it did, so yes I'm sure.

I am not out to ge you but  I remember phoning some friends in Paekakariki about some shoot out several years ago.
So I just checked what it was and was quiet taken aback at : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_New_Zealand
obviously most have little in common with this present situation but the number of events is quiet startling


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Wiggs on December 14, 2012, 01:10:36 PM
Do you make this shit up as you go?

It's true and your soul will be cast into hell for eternal damnation for rejecting God.  There is alot evidence that leads to all this stuff being true.The Bible, ancient writings, hieroglyphics,   Jesus, Demons aka aliens, dinosaurs, giants, "the gods", mythical, mystical creatures, all this stuff ties together into the ultimate truth so fucking crazy it would seem no one in there right mind would believe it. And that is what they depend on. Thank God for getting the jews to write us the Bible. 8) This planet is more special than most believe. The truth is out there my friends.

If the president himself said what I just wrote above most people wouldn't believe it.  It's too much of a mind fuck for people to comprehend. They would literally go insane in not able to comprehend the misunderstood or have a heart attack out of sheer terror. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 01:10:49 PM
Ryan's Page already Seized by the FEDS




http://www.facebook.com/rlanza?fref=ts (http://www.facebook.com/rlanza?fref=ts)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Rudee on December 14, 2012, 01:11:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW_0pGqfr-E

Those were crocodile tears.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Marty Champions on December 14, 2012, 01:13:46 PM
if a kid kills then it proves he has no fear of a higher power punishing him

that is not good

his parents were probably like "yeah there probably isnt any god everything is just random the bible is a total lie religions are stupid"

this puts a bit of fear and unstability in the kids mind, kid also thinks he has free will without punishment

the correct way to parent a kid

parent says " dont gamble and take a chance at doing something gravely bad because you dont believe god exists, none of us knows what waits for us on the otherside and there might be hell to pay that words cannot describe, so just stay out of trouble and life will be less worrysome"

im sure theres a better way to word that in a condensed version...


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: TRIX on December 14, 2012, 01:20:52 PM
HE WAS JUST DOING SOME POPULATION CONTROL


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: slate on December 14, 2012, 01:21:15 PM
This shit aint bodybuilding related



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 01:21:38 PM
Oh Wiggs.  There is no proof.  That's why the church drummed up faith.  Have faith blah blah. Human nature is to want to be led.  They look for leaders and that's were this faith system came from.  Proof has never existed.  Even the bible itself is a complitation of many men.  Humans.  Not God.  If I tell you to pick the orange ball from a  box with an orange ball and a blue triangle.  Do you use faith or fact to get the orange ball?
When you ask hard questions about God to priests they always use misdirection such as "this is bigger than us all"  or "God is Mysterious"  It is all made up as time goes on.  Even Christianity today is a bastardized version of Christianity from 200 years ago to 1000 years ago.

Even Christians can't agree so they created, Lutheran, baptist, southern baptist, evangelical ...... christianity.  BUddhists will tell you a story of how they are right and muslims will and jews will but no one knows shit.

It's true and your soul will be cast into hell for eternal damnation for rejecting God.  There is alot evidence that leads to all this stuff being true.The Bible, ancient writings, hieroglyphics,   Jesus, Demons aka aliens, dinosaurs, giants, "the gods", mythical, mystical creatures, all this stuff ties together into the ultimate truth so fucking crazy it would seem no one in there right mind would believe it. And that is what they depend on. Thank God for getting the jews to write us the Bible. 8) This planet is more special than most believe. The truth is out there my friends.

If the president himself said what I just wrote above most people wouldn't believe it.  It's too much of a mind fuck for people to comprehend. They would literally go insane in not able to comprehend the misunderstood or have a heart attack out of sheer terror. 



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 01:22:39 PM
Those were crocodile tears.  

Racist post reported


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2012, 01:23:09 PM
This shit aint bodybuilding related



Heard on the news he did pullups in the morning so it is.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: nzmusclemonster on December 14, 2012, 01:24:40 PM
I am not out to ge you but  I remember phoning some friends in Paekakariki about some shoot out several years ago.
So I just checked what it was and was quiet taken aback at : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_New_Zealand
obviously most have little in common with this present situation but the number of events is quiet startling

Interesting list.... but really the only one of note is the Aramoana massacre. That shit is comparable to stuff that happens in the states. All the others are just family shit or kneegulls being kneegulls.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 14, 2012, 01:28:54 PM
It's true and your soul will be cast into hell for eternal damnation for rejecting God.  There is alot evidence that leads to all this stuff being true.The Bible, ancient writings, hieroglyphics,   Jesus, Demons aka aliens, dinosaurs, giants, "the gods", mythical, mystical creatures, all this stuff ties together into the ultimate truth so fucking crazy it would seem no one in there right mind would believe it. And that is what they depend on. Thank God for getting the jews to write us the Bible. 8) This planet is more special than most believe. The truth is out there my friends.

If the president himself said what I just wrote above most people wouldn't believe it.  It's too much of a mind fuck for people to comprehend. They would literally go insane in not able to comprehend the misunderstood or have a heart attack out of sheer terror. 


bro, you're fluent in retard.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 01:30:14 PM
Interesting list.... but really the only one of note is the Aramoana massacre. That shit is comparable to stuff that happens in the states. All the others are just family shit or kneegulls being kneegulls.

quiet so but any one of them would be of note if your at the wrong end of the gun.
no society ought to be smug about their own perfection though I guess in many countries if so many deaths are carried out by a particular instrument they might consider its availability


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 14, 2012, 01:31:02 PM
*Sigh* So soon again.  :-\


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 14, 2012, 01:31:57 PM
This is the reason why you need to give love and respect to white kids growing up, preventing them from becoming a massmurderer.

If you bully a young white fellow, he has the potential to keep this inside him for many many years until it boils over, and creating a monster.

So take care of all your young children out there.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Wiggs on December 14, 2012, 01:34:18 PM
You are wrong, it is indeed true. But it is written that all that happens, happens because it is destined. Jesus told us the things in the Bible so that we would not be deceived. He was a real being the personification of the all mighty God himself.  Can you fathom such a thing? Funny thing is it was prophesied that he would show up and where and it happened. He himself professed that he was indeed the son of God, meaning God in human form. Can you fathom a being that can affect things on a subatomic level? Man-o-man. He put us here to give a choice to VOLUNTARILY serve him through free will with the rewards of everlasting life among many other things. Those that don't and reject him well, hell awaits Mr. "Diablo". If you chose to be willfully stupid, that's on you. Do your research.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: slate on December 14, 2012, 01:39:03 PM
Another mass shooting:

-Another debate about gun control that will lead nowhere
-Another debate about God's goodness/existence that will lead nowhere
-Another bunch of internet posturing that will lead nowhere

Why bother with things that 99.9% of the people in this board are not qualified to even think about, much less influence

Lets focus on things we can discuss with some knowledge:g4p in pro bbing, Rx hustle,  corruption in the IFBB/NPC, is Ron gay, who really shot kennedy, is derek anthony dead, etc etc


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 02:12:17 PM
Brother RYAN is telling Police his brother ADAM had ASSBURGERS syndrome


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on December 14, 2012, 02:15:44 PM
The tragic school massacre in Connecticut has provoked current discussions at Getbig Theological Seminary to reflect on issues dealing with God's providence. Before proceeding, perhaps a helpful distinction should be made between 'fate' and 'destiny.' 'Fate' is usually used in closed-ended terms, i.e., as events and states of affairs that unfold, and are arrived at, necessarily and cannot be otherwise; whereas, 'destiny' is usually used in open-ended terms, i.e., as a "destination" that might or might not be achieved (hence, one can fail to fulfill or achieve one's destiny). German theologians and philosophers make a distinction between fate (Schicksal) and destiny (Geshick).

The Roman writers Seneca and Augustine (and much later on in Germany, Kant*) used the phrase "Ducunt volentum fata, nolentem trahunt," i.e., "fate leads the willing and drags the unwilling," in closed-ended terms.

*Although Kant misstated the phrase.



Just saying, on a very sad day.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 02:16:06 PM
Brother RYAN is telling Police his brother ADAM had ASSBURGER syndrome
lol if it's true big brother ryan is probably the one that made his little brother become the monster by giving him bad influences. Funny he wasnt killed when parents and other kids were? Probably cause he s the one who pushed his lil bro in the first place.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 02:16:57 PM
lol if it's true big brother ryan is probably the one that made his little brother become the monster by giving him bad influences. Funny he wasnt killed when parents and other kids were? Probably cause he s the one who pushed his lil bro in the first place.

I blame Bush


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Marty Champions on December 14, 2012, 02:18:52 PM
Brother RYAN is telling Police his brother ADAM had ASSBURGERS syndrome

every adam that ive known is fucked up , dumb, weird

a-damn

mad-a


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: randy841 on December 14, 2012, 02:19:55 PM
The natural result of a Godless anti-christ society.

More people are murdered, killed, raped, and maimed in the name of religion than not.

Furthermore, as if Christ gives a fu*ck or could do a f*uck about situations like this. Pray all you want to Allah - Christ or whoever your god is - they have never done shit for the world and never will.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 02:21:51 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/live-updates-newtown-ct-school-shooting


Has a lot of emotional issues

ASSBURGERS for sure


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on December 14, 2012, 02:24:41 PM
lol if it's true big brother ryan is probably the one that made his little brother become the monster by giving him bad influences. Funny he wasnt killed when parents and other kids were? Probably cause he s the one who pushed his lil bro in the first place.
Those FBI interrogators will beat the truth out of him question him thoroughly on the matter.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 02:27:48 PM
Brother RYAN is telling Police his brother ADAM had ASSBURGERS syndrome
Ahh shit are you fucking serious?

I mean it's no surprise, but still if you guys start persecuting my folk this kind of shit is only gonna get much worst.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 02:29:20 PM
Ahh shit are you fucking serious?

I mean it's no surprise, but still if you guys start persecuting my folk this kind of shit is only gonna get much worst.


Dont you have ASSBURGERS , RAtard???


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 02:31:00 PM

Dont you have ASSBURGERS , RAtard???
Yeah I already admitted in the other thread I'm ok with this shit.

My people rarely commit crime but when we do it makes the news.

It's the price you pay.


We don't rape, murder, lie, manipulate, etc, but at the end of the day we still have limits.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 14, 2012, 02:32:26 PM
Ahh shit are you fucking serious?

I mean it's no surprise, but still if you guys start persecuting my folk this kind of shit is only gonna get much worst.
Give it a rest, idiot.  ::)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Heywood on December 14, 2012, 02:34:26 PM
Yeah I already admitted in the other thread I'm ok with this shit.

My people rarely commit crime but when we do it makes the news.

It's the price you pay.


We don't rape, murder, lie, manipulate, etc, but at the end of the day we still have limits.


you shit hamburgers?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 02:35:01 PM
Yeah I already admitted in the other thread I'm ok with this shit.

My people rarely commit crime but when we do it makes the news.

It's the price you pay.


We don't rape, murder, lie, manipulate, etc, but at the end of the day we still have limits.
you dont have any mental illness you lazy weak minded asshole. You probably been mistreated by your caregivers, but stop labeling yourself as being this or that. Mental illnesses are just symptoms, descriptions of phenomenons happening to people, the origin, the reason why they show these symptoms, is always that they ve been lacking love and that their parents responsible for the mistratments told them not to say anything about them, which makes the whole thing even worse. Hiding yourself beind labels wont solve or fulfill any of your shortcomings and lacks. Read the Bible  instead of reading about "mental illnesses" all day long that anyone could say are supposed to affect him or herself. Instead of convincing people they are "ill" modern day psychologists and psychiatrists should find a way to cure their lack of love, which most of the time they cant but by prescribing fucking pills that destroy them even more. A lot of people get richer out of all of this tho, even if most of the time it has no results at all in the majority of patients who just go home with a lighter wallet yet still didnt adress or confront those responsible for their inner sufferings.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Marty Champions on December 14, 2012, 02:35:14 PM
my "crackhead" friend is named Adam also and has some obvious aspergurs symptoms and is addicted to dope he will even inhale duster out of a can a true dumbass


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 02:35:41 PM
Give it a rest, idiot.  ::)
The fuck, do you know anything about what it means to be autistic, my people have gone through shit, that makes what the blacks jews and queers gone through look like a cake walk.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 14, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
The fuck, do you know anything about what it means to be autistic, my people have gone through shit, that makes what the blacks jews and queers gone through look like a cake walk.
1/100     ::)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 02:40:05 PM
The fuck, do you know anything about what it means to be autistic, my people have gone through shit, that makes what the blacks jews and queers gone through look like a cake walk.


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Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 02:41:33 PM
(http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/i-can-count-to-potato.jpg)

(http://www.troll.me/images/pondering-retard/that-might-just-be-crazy-enough-to-be-potato-thumb.jpg)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 14, 2012, 02:41:37 PM
Oh brother fucking NEWS reporters

Now they are saying ryan lanza isn't the shooter the dude in glasses , Ryan is the older brother of the shooter , the Shooter is now named as ADAM lanza

Some of those reporters should be fukcing shot. They were interviewing 6 year old kids right after shit went down. I would have knocked the reporter the fck out if I saw that go down. Asking fukcing babies to relive what they just seen is what therapist are for years later. They (the reporters) probably went there with order s from their superiors(the Hierarchy) to get the kids to talk. Unbelievable.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 02:43:05 PM
Queue Bob Costas and his Gun Laws on Sunday Night Football






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Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 14, 2012, 02:43:41 PM
The fuck, do you know anything about what it means to be autistic, my people have gone through shit, that makes what the blacks jews and queers gone through look like a cake walk.
Oh brother....

Wrong thread to seek out sympathy for your "disease" or defend "your people." Show some sympathy/respect for the 26 CHILDRENand teachers killed by one of "your people."


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 14, 2012, 02:44:35 PM
HE WAS JUST DOING SOME WORK FOR THE HIERARCY'Spopulation GUN CONTROL AGENDA

Fixed


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 14, 2012, 02:46:08 PM
Those were crocodile tears.  

Agreed. Nobody wipes away tears like that who doesn't want people to know they're crying. The wipe is your classic make sure everyone knows you're crying.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 02:49:27 PM
Oh brother....

Wrong thread to seek out sympathy for your "disease" or defend "your people." Show some sympathy/respect for the 26 CHILDRENand teachers killed by one of "your people."
How about you show a little respect for the victims and try to understand the fucking problem you dolt. The dismissive rejections you give to me hear are the exact kind that lead to the violence that were talking about. Take some fucking responsibility you fucking dolt.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 14, 2012, 02:50:25 PM
A CIA AGENTguy right near the school while shit was going down wearing camo's was brought in for questioning and released and is not a suspect. I'll bet the house that he will have a military type/government back round if you dig deep enough.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 02:50:40 PM
these were bad actor's tears. At least Bush was convincing when he learnt about the 9/11 events, he had no need to fake them. Obonga doesnt care much about white people's kids anyway, who were most of the victims.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 02:51:16 PM
assburgers




(http://abcnews.go.com/images/Health/ht_aspergers_080306_mn.jpg)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 02:52:24 PM
assburgers




(http://abcnews.go.com/images/Health/ht_aspergers_080306_mn.jpg)
Look at the -prolly single- mom...no wonder kid is doomed to failure and lifelong physical/psychological suffering. She s herself a bag of repressed physical and psychological sufferings.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2012, 02:55:35 PM
Tragic all the way around. But please don't blame the object

Same objects , same scene different people. You can't punish a whole group of people for the actions of one deranged man.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Rami on December 14, 2012, 02:55:39 PM
They should have some police at every school. I thought it was obvious after Breivik killed 69 kid because there was no security around. Armed security could have got to him before so many died. It's either that or collect all guns. It's really no better option. One wonders what it will take before they finally decide to have security at schools.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Voice of Doom on December 14, 2012, 02:56:22 PM
Maybe we should outlaw asperger syndrome?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 14, 2012, 02:57:20 PM
How about you show a little respect for the victims and try to understand the fucking problem you dolt. The dismissive rejections you give to me hear are the exact kind that lead to the violence that were talking about. Take some fucking responsibility you fucking dolt.
You sound like someone who has been babied and coddled their entire life and told that they are "special."

News flash: the world doesn't care about you and you're not special.  Neither am I.  Adapt and integrate in society, or leave it. And don't throw a tantrum like this POS did on the way out. This is my last post, I'm not gonna get in a pissing match with you. I'm truly saddened by this terrible thing that happened today. You making claims like "if they would just respect my people more then this wouldn't have happened is such bullshit."  Peace.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 14, 2012, 02:59:14 PM
They should have some police at every school. I thought it was obvious after Breivik killed 69 kid because there was no security around. Armed security could have got to him before so many died. It's either that or collect all guns. It's really no better option. One wonders what it will take before they finally decide to have security at schools.

Naw. The cop probably would have took a bullet to the head. Kid would have walked right up to him and shot him. Cop never would have seen it coming.

If they government said it's going to collect all drugs, do you think that would keep drugs out of the hands of people who want them?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: bigbobs on December 14, 2012, 03:00:37 PM
He himself professed that he was indeed the son of God, meaning God in human form.

Wrong, among others who hold the "son of God" title in the Bible are David, Solomon, all of Israelites, and everyone who is righteous.  That doesn't make all of them "God in human form" otherwise you will have countless "gods in human form."

Jesus was a great prophet of God (just like Muhammad) but he was not God himself.  Jesus prays to God in the Bible, and surely God is not bipolar that he would pray to himself.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 14, 2012, 03:01:01 PM
Problem-reaction-solution


In Tales From The Time Loop (2003), Icke argues that most organized religions, especially Judaism, Christianity and Islam, are Illuminati creations designed to divide and conquer the human race through endless conflicts, as are racial, ethnic, and sexual divisions. He cites the Oklahoma City bombing and 9/11 as examples of events organized by the Global Elite.[53] The incidents allow the Elite to respond in whatever way they intended to act in the first place, a concept Icke calls "order out of chaos," or "problem-reaction-solution". He writes that there are few, if any, public events that are not engineered, or at least used, by the Brotherhood:[17]


Image by Neil Hague from Icke's Infinite Love is the Only Truth (2005), showing the Brotherhood, or "Red Dresses." This image depicts George W. Bush, Tony Blair and Queen Elizabeth II as members of the Brotherhood.
You want to introduce something you know the people won't like. ... So you first create a PROBLEM, a rising crime rate, more violence, a terrorist bomb ... You make sure someone else is blamed for this problem ... So you create a "patsy," as they call them in America, a Timothy McVeigh or a Lee Harvey Oswald. ... This brings us to stage two, the REACTION from the people—"This can't go on; what are THEY going to do about it?" ... This allows THEM to then openly offer the SOLUTION to the problems they have created ..."[54]



WE ARE ALL WITNESSING THE REACTION STAGE


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 03:02:12 PM
You sound like someone who has been babied and coddled their entire life and told that they are "special."

News flash: the world doesn't care about you and you're not special.  Neither am I.  Adapt and integrate in society, or leave it. And don't throw a tantrum like this POS did on the way out. This is my last post, I'm not gonna get in a pissing match with you. Peace.
Adapt and intergrate the fuck do you know. The whole point of the disorder is you have severe neurological impairments on those two fucking issues.

Do you honestly hear what your saying here..

For the record on the autie boards I"m considered quite the opposite.

Your projecting your shit, based on some preconceived notion of who you think I am.

99.9999 percent of people with aspergers are completely harmless.

this small fraction is directly because of the shit that is put on them.

Anyhows dude keep pretending  you have the beginnings of understanding something you don't.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 14, 2012, 03:06:28 PM
Adapt and intergrate the fuck do you know. The whole point of the disorder is you have severe neurological impairments on those two fucking issues.

Do you honestly hear what your saying here..

For the record on the autie boards I"m considered quite the opposite.

Your projecting your shit, based on some preconceived notion of who you think I am.

99.9999 percent of people with aspergers are completely harmless.

this small fraction is directly because of the shit that is put on them.

Anyhows dude keep pretending  you have the beginnings of understanding something you don't.


My step brother of 12 years is autistic.... A family member I love. So yeah, I have "the beginning of understanding" on this topic.

And I've witnessed some remarkable bullshit and psychobabble told to him over the years.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: f450 on December 14, 2012, 03:06:56 PM
if every white person in the world had been killed, this tragedy wouldnt have happe.............. oh wait.

Idiotic Getbig racist ideology getting to me.... gotta save that line for when a black person commits a crime ::)


This is a sad and unfortunate event. My condolences to the families affected.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: K-1 on December 14, 2012, 03:08:19 PM
Man my heart goes out to all the families. Going to be rough for them. I can't help but think of those kids handing over their christmas wish lists to their parents and the parents getting those gifts and will never be able to see their kids reaction to the gifts during christmas. That moment is gone for them.

K-1 is sad sad sad.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 03:11:07 PM
My step brother of 12 years is autistic.... A family member I love. So yeah, I have "the beginning of understanding" on this topic.

And I've witnessed some remarkable bullshit and psychobabble told to him over the years.
So you think you know what it's like, you don't get the shit that goes on in the real fucking world. Everyone knows someone that is autistic, it don't mean you fucking get it.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 03:13:14 PM
So you think you know what it's like, you don't get the shit that goes on in the real fucking world. Everyone knows someone that is autistic, it don't mean you fucking get it.


You seem perfectly fine.  Someone in authority lied to you about your condition


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Rami on December 14, 2012, 03:16:24 PM
Naw. The cop probably would have took a bullet to the head. Kid would have walked right up to him and shot him. Cop never would have seen it coming.

If they government said it's going to collect all drugs, do you think that would keep drugs out of the hands of people who want them?

what kind of excuse is this? never seen it coming?

you don't walk up to the police carrying tactical bulletproof vest, 5 firearms, 1000 rounds of ammo, a crossbow and 80 crossbow bolts.

https://images.4chan.org/pol/src/1355516924315.png

even if not true and everything he had was concealed, you have a lot bigger chance at doing something about the situation if someone armed would have been there to take him out.





Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Conker on December 14, 2012, 03:17:34 PM
Naw. The cop probably would have took a bullet to the head. Kid would have walked right up to him and shot him. Cop never would have seen it coming.

If they government said it's going to collect all drugs, do you think that would keep drugs out of the hands of people who want them?

Well you have legal drugs nicotine and alcohol then illegal like weed and ecstasy ....which ones are more easily accessible?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 03:17:57 PM

You seem perfectly fine.  Someone in authority lied to you about your condition
Are you fucking joking? You have any idea how insulting it is to hear that from people on a day to day fucking basis. It's just one of the many issues that come with the disorder.


I've come a long fucking way, by working at call centers, taking jobs that I can barely fucking do, to get this far. That the thing you act as if I was just sitting on my hands with this shit, I've been struggling with this shit making what progress I can for fucking years.

I've failed out 11 semester of school, wasted ton's of my parents money, on the hope that they'd have atleast one normal son.

And I'm fucking relatively well off compared to the tons kids that won't get the right exposure that will help them develop.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 03:19:09 PM
what kind of excuse is this? never seen it coming?

you don't walk up to the police carrying tactical bulletproof vest, 5 firearms, 1000 rounds of ammo, a crossbow and 80 crossbow bolts.

https://images.4chan.org/pol/src/1355516924315.png

even if not true and everything he had was concealed, you have a lot bigger chance at doing something about the situation if someone armed would have been there to take him out.





A thousand round?!? do you know how heavy that is, never mind the fact that you CANNOT hide 1k rounds.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 03:20:20 PM
Are you fucking joking? You have any idea how insulting it is to hear that from people on a day to day fucking basis. It's just one of the many issues that come with the disorder.


I've come a long fucking way, by working at call centers, taking jobs that I can barely fucking do, to get this far. That the thing you act as if I was just sitting on my hands with this shit, I've been struggling with this shit making what progress I can for fucking years.

I've failed out 11 semester of school, wasted ton's of my parents money, on the hope that they'd have atleast one normal son.

And I'm fucking relatively well off compared to the tons kids that won't get the right exposure that will help them develop.

Who knows, maybe you are just faking to get attention  ???


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Rami on December 14, 2012, 03:21:22 PM
A thousand round?!? do you know how heavy that is, never mind the fact that you CANNOT hide 1k rounds.

Yes makes one wonder how much steroids it takes to carry this around.. BFG?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 03:21:35 PM
Are you fucking joking? You have any idea how insulting it is to hear that from people on a day to day fucking basis. It's just one of the many issues that come with the disorder.


I've come a long fucking way, by working at call centers, taking jobs that I can barely fucking do, to get this far. That the thing you act as if I was just sitting on my hands with this shit, I've been struggling with this shit making what progress I can for fucking years.

I've failed out 11 semester of school, wasted ton's of my parents money, on the hope that they'd have atleast one normal son.

And I'm fucking relatively well off compared to the tons kids that won't get the right exposure that will help them develop.

Maybe they tell you that you're fine because you are.  Life is hard, deal with it


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 03:22:15 PM
So you think you know what it's like, you don't get the shit that goes on in the real fucking world. Everyone knows someone that is autistic, it don't mean you fucking get it.
Dont listen to people who will whine with you as they dont care about your suffering, they just enjoying comparing their lives to yours to feel better about themselves, listen to those who tell you how to grow out of it, even if it sounds like a slap in the face to you. And again, you better not listen to other humans as most of them are not perfect and often only following their own interests; listen to God directly by reading the Bible.

It is of no use for you to get better and take your life in your hands to whine eternally or look for people who will whine with you. You are perfectly normal, just another hurt spirit that has to do what he has to do to get better. You re not responsible for what those who hurt you did to you, but you re responsible at some point when you grow up for not doing what is necessary to change.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 03:23:31 PM
Maybe they tell you that you're fine because you are.  Life is hard, deal with it

I agree, just brush it off and get on with life I mean lol how hard can it be? everybody got his demons not everybody needs to see a loony doctor


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: G_Thang on December 14, 2012, 03:23:37 PM
if every white person in the world had been killed, this tragedy wouldnt have happe.............. oh wait.

Idiotic Getbig racist ideology getting to me.... gotta save that line for when a black person commits a crime ::)



minorities on getbig have no problem with the nordics.  it's whites in the usa.


(http://www.fashion-advices.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/swedish-girl-02.jpg)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 03:25:07 PM
I've come a long fucking way,.

but not far enough perhaps to realise that this time is probably not the most sensitive to argue your case
Discretion is the better part of valour


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 03:25:35 PM
but not far enough perhaps to realise that this time is probably not the most sensitive to argue your case
Discretion is the better part of valour

This!!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 03:25:43 PM
Who knows, maybe you are just faking to get attention  ???
Man are you a fucking idiot. This whole attention whoring shit is getting fucking annoying.

I haven't hanged out with a friend/classmate/ roommate, in over a month. I ain't no fucking attention whore.

Everyone wants attention on some level it's called being fucking human if you had any concept of logic you'd get this.

The reason I seem like I'm trying to get attention is because the concept of talking on a message board is beyond my fucking reach.

Your really fail to understand things from my perspective if you don't get this.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 03:28:20 PM
Man are you a fucking idiot. This whole attention whoring shit is getting fucking annoying.

I haven't hanged out with a friend/classmate/ roommate, in over a month. I ain't no fucking attention whore.

Everyone wants attention on some level it's called being fucking human if you had any concept of logic you'd get this.

The reason I seem like I'm trying to get attention is because the concept of talking on a message board is beyond my fucking reach.

Your really fail to understand things from my perspective if you don't get this.

You seem pretty self-aware about how you aren't self-aware.  I think you don't give yourself enough credit.  Have you ever considered you might just be stupid and not autistic?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 03:28:20 PM
Man are you a fucking idiot. This whole attention whoring shit is getting fucking annoying.

I haven't hanged out with a friend/classmate/ roommate, in over a month. I ain't no fucking attention whore.

Everyone wants attention on some level it's called being fucking human if you had any concept of logic you'd get this.

The reason I seem like I'm trying to get attention is because the concept of talking on a message board is beyond my fucking reach.

Your really fail to understand things from my perspective if you don't get this.

jesus, stop fucking feeling sorry for yourself already man. We all got problems, sometimes I don't know how to continue but you brush it off and keep on trucking.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 03:30:23 PM
You seem pretty self-aware about how you aren't self-aware.  I think you don't give yourself enough credit.  Have you ever considered you might just be stupid and not autistic?

lol maybe that his thing to get to talk to girls...

Ratard: You know I'm autistic?!?
She: Oh nooo you poor thing!
Ratard: Yeah...
She: Its like...being handicapt like a mongoloid?
Ratard: NO!!! GOD NO! I'm that "other" type of autistic, the clever once!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 03:30:54 PM
but not far enough perhaps to realise that this time is probably not the most sensitive to argue your case
Discretion is the better part of valour
But this is the fucking nonsense, this issue is exactly about the shit I'm trying to talk about. You don't seem to get the direct connection with all these killings. I didn't make this about me, I talk people retort by attacking me I have
to defend or they won't listen to the fuck I'm talking about.

I know what I'm talking about, these killings are easily explained by the treatment these people get. They don't kill on this level or intensity because they are crazy. This is a direct type of killing that is pre meditated and built on a basis of hate. This hate does not come from nowhere. If you can't understand this shit it'll keep fucking happening.

If you fail to understand the way this hate is built over years to an intensity that results in killing little kids, it's never gonna stop happening.

So if your answer is let people enjoy there useless emotions instead of actually doing something about the issue your a fucking idiot.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 03:33:57 PM
Quote from: Stark link=topic=451549.date=1355527535
This!!
dat dees and dos
("dies" to you? )


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Emmortal on December 14, 2012, 03:34:14 PM
So this guy was using 2 9mm's and left his AR in the car?  Definitely had aspergers.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 03:35:21 PM
So this guy was using 2 9mm's and left his AR in the car?  Definitely had aspergers.

thank god he didn't take the AR with him, could have been easily a few hundreds.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 03:36:59 PM
But this is the fucking nonsense, this issue is exactly about the shit I'm trying to talk about. You don't seem to get the direct connection with all these killings. I didn't make this about me, I talk people retort by attacking me I have
to defend or they won't listen to the fuck I'm talking about.
I know what I'm talking about, these killings are easily explained by the treatment these people get. They don't kill on this level or intensity because they are crazy. This is a direct type of killing that is pre meditated and built on a basis of hate. This hate does not come from nowhere. If you can't understand this shit it'll keep fucking happening.
If you fail to understand the way this hate is built over years to an intensity that results in killing little kids, it's never gonna stop happening.
So if your answer is let people enjoy there useless emotions instead of actually doing something about the issue your a fucking idiot.


If i say you are right will that make you happy?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 03:38:24 PM

If i say you are right will that make you happy?
Sure.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 03:41:48 PM
Leave aside the terrible details and reality the aspect that a young man shoots a bunch of people is fascinating from a psychological aspect. What does one feel when you shoot and kill? It must be good otherwise why would they not stop?
Some guy in a docu said once in Vietnam he was a door gunner and he loved the feeling of the pig 60 when he was shooting it.
Whats wrong with us that we like or learn to like killing?



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 14, 2012, 03:42:22 PM
Sure.
Shut the f*ck up, idiot.  ::)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 03:42:45 PM
lol maybe that his thing to get to talk to girls...

Ratard: You know I'm autistic?!?
She: Oh nooo you poor thing!
Ratard: Yeah...
She: Its like...being handicapt like a mongoloid?
Ratard: NO!!! GOD NO! I'm that "other" type of autistic, the clever once!


Haha.  I wonder if he's orthodox or reformed autistic.  I wouldn't make fun if he actually suffered from autism.  I think his hippy parents wanted a medical reason for their child being an underachiever


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 03:44:01 PM
Leave aside the terrible details and reality the aspect that a young man shoots a bunch of people is fascinating from a psychological aspect. What does one feel when you shoot and kill? It must be good otherwise why would they not stop?
Some guy in a docu said once in Vietnam he was a door gunner and he loved the feeling of the pig 60 when he was shooting it.
Whats wrong with us that we like or learn to like killing?
Human nature, we had to kill to survive for centuries, if humans didn't take an interest in death and killing we wouldn't survive.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 03:46:36 PM
every adam that ive known is fucked up , dumb, weird

a-damn

mad-a
Watch it Falcon. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 03:47:36 PM

Haha.  I wonder if he's orthodox or reformed autistic.  I wouldn't make fun if he actually suffered from autism.  I think his hippy parents wanted a medical reason for their child being an underachiever

Why not make fun of him even if he was autistic? We take shit too seriously these days, people like to tell you all the time what you can and cannot make fun of, stupid. One of my best online friends is a girl that has problems that are beyond believe and not comprehensive, dad raped her, ex heroin addict, 37 or so years old and pretty but really really fucked up in the head. I mean she would laught at Ratard's problems,
I talk to her nearly every day and we rip each other apart with cruel jokes - she makes fun of my painful past and I do it with her.
She understands that you cannot be too sensitive about that shit.
Its people like Ratard who take things too serious you start wondering, the once that carry their cross not on their back but right in front of them for everybody to see.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: AbrahamG on December 14, 2012, 03:47:46 PM
If those kids had been armed, none of this would have happened.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Alex23 on December 14, 2012, 03:48:01 PM
I chug dongs.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 03:49:20 PM
Sure.

you can take an alcoholic  horse thief to  AA but he is still a horse thief

You may be an autistic eejit who has worked hard dealing with autism but you are still a right eejit


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 03:49:34 PM
If those kids had been armed, none of this would have happened.

If you are serious - Lol fucking lol most retarded argument ever, but very typical american.

otherwise nice and clever joke


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 03:50:24 PM
you can take an alcoholic  horse thief to  AA but he is still a horse thief

You may be an autistic eejit who has worked hard dealing with autism but you are still a right eejit

The yanks don't understand your irish slang.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 03:50:36 PM

Haha.  I wonder if he's orthodox or reformed autistic.  I wouldn't make fun if he actually suffered from autism.  I think his hippy parents wanted a medical reason for their child being an underachiever
If you think you can diagnose from a message board you have no fucking clue what your talking about.

I stimm for hours a day, I have back shoulder and neck problems due to this, I have no friends, have never enjoyed sex etc. I use to have severe trouble with making coherent posts still do actually but I've gotten tons better, my ability to talk has gone from a monotone mumble to what is considered normal at this point. I'm the textbook case of the disorder once you factor in the amount of time I've spent getting past shit.

I don't feel sorry for myself, maybe once or twice a year I'll have meltdown threads, which are quite in line with autism but otherwise no.

Just go on wrong planet and hear the shit people talk about, you see shit super fucking quick and realize I'm on the conservative end of autism.





The only reason it


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 03:52:40 PM
If you think you can diagnose from a message board you have no fucking clue what your talking about.

I stimm for hours a day, I have back shoulder and neck problems due to this, I have no friends, have never enjoyed sex etc. I use to have severe trouble with making coherent posts still do actually but I've gotten tons better, my ability to talk has gone from a monotone mumble to what is considered normal at this point. I'm the textbook case of the disorder once you factor in the amount of time I've spent getting past shit.

I don't feel sorry for myself, maybe once or twice a year I'll have meltdown threads, which are quite in line with autism but otherwise no.

Just go on wrong planet and hear the shit people talk about, you see shit super fucking quick and realize I'm on the conservative end of autism.

The only reason it

Stop feeling sorry for yourself !!!!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 03:53:35 PM
The yanks don't understand your irish slang.

the boy is clever , he will figure it out


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 03:54:26 PM
Why not make fun of him even if he was autistic? We take shit too seriously these days, people like to tell you all the time what you can and cannot make fun of, stupid. One of my best online friends is a girl that has problems that are beyond believe and not comprehensive, dad raped her, ex heroin addict, 37 or so years old and pretty but really really fucked up in the head. I mean she would laught at Ratard's problems,
I talk to her nearly every day and we rip each other apart with cruel jokes - she makes fun of my painful past and I do it with her.
She understands that you cannot be too sensitive about that shit.
Its people like Ratard who take things too serious you start wondering, the once that carry their cross not on their back but right in front of them for everybody to see.
When the fuck did I say you can't joke about shit. This is what you don't get I joke about the most fucked shit all the time.

You confuse, desperately trying to get my point acknowledged, with being emotionally upset.
It's quite impersonal, I just simply try harder. This may be confused with being emotional attached.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 03:54:31 PM
If you think you can diagnose from a message board you have no fucking clue what your talking about.

I stimm for hours a day, I have back shoulder and neck problems due to this, I have no friends, have never enjoyed sex etc. I use to have severe trouble with making coherent posts still do actually but I've gotten tons better, my ability to talk has gone from a monotone mumble to what is considered normal at this point. I'm the textbook case of the disorder once you factor in the amount of time I've spent getting past shit.

I don't feel sorry for myself, maybe once or twice a year I'll have meltdown threads, which are quite in line with autism but otherwise no.

Just go on wrong planet and hear the shit people talk about, you see shit super fucking quick and realize I'm on the conservative end of autism.





The only reason it


Your fine.  We all have problems.  I'm married so I don't enjoy sex either.  I have back and hip problems but I manage to deal with it.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 03:55:25 PM
the boy is clever , he will figure it out

A clever eejit?
Well why don't you dip me into honey and throw me to the lesbians.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 03:56:12 PM

Your fine.  We all have problems.  I'm married so I don't enjoy sex either.  I have back and hip problems but I manage to deal with it.  

 :D  ;D - focking legend


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 03:57:29 PM

Your fine.  We all have problems.  I'm married so I don't enjoy sex either.  I have back and hip problems but I manage to deal with it.  

had you considered different positions?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 03:57:51 PM
When the fuck did I say you can't joke about shit. This is what you don't get I joke about the most fucked shit all the time.

You confuse, desperately trying to get my point acknowledged, with being emotionally upset.
It's quite impersonal, I just simply try harder. This may be confused with being emotional attached.


relax, have another Ritalin


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 03:58:56 PM
had you considered different positions?


Yes.  Sometimes I stand in the yard.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 04:01:09 PM

Your fine.  We all have problems.  I'm married so I don't enjoy sex either.  I have back and hip problems but I manage to deal with it.  
My point was that it is a direct product of autism.

I seriously getting tired of trying to explain this to you folk.

If you met me in real life you'd be surprised by the level of not giving a fuck I have.

Of course people have fucking problems, life is full of brutal shit wall to wall, the difference between real problems, and shit that just sucks is that you have to work with real problems.

Being proactive for me means factoring in the autism, I have to, not because I'm feeling sorry for myself but because the disorder is so pervasive.  

So even on a good day, I have to factor in what I'm thinking.

That's the part people don't really understand until they really start trying to deal with this type of problem.



I'm a rather practical person.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 04:02:17 PM

Yes.  Sometimes I stand in the yard.


not quiet a farmer so - outstanding in his own field

and where does your partner position themselves ?



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Stark on December 14, 2012, 04:02:37 PM
My point was that it is a direct product of autism.

......

That's the part people don't really understand until they really start trying to deal with this type of problem.

I'm a rather practical person.


The more you try to convince people the less they gonna believe you, that's the law of the internet.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 04:04:02 PM
My point was that it is a direct product of autism.

I seriously getting tired of trying to explain this to you folk.

If you met me in real life you'd be surprised by the level of not giving a fuck I have.

Of course people have fucking problems, life is full of brutal shit wall to wall, the difference between real problems, and shit that just sucks is that you have to work with real problems.

Being proactive for me means factoring in the autism, I have to, not because I'm feeling sorry for myself but because the disorder is so pervasive.  

So even on a good day, I have to factor in what I'm thinking.

That's the part people don't really understand until they really start trying to deal with this type of problem.



I'm a rather practical person.



For a person without emotions you are very emotional.  And you do seem to give a lot of fucks.  I do believe you've been cured.  It's a Christmas miracle.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 04:04:54 PM
The more you try to convince people the less they gonna believe you, that's the law of the internet.
Says the master, whatever dude. I know what I'm talking about, you do the bullshit deflect, and bullshit routine I don't give a fuck, I'm gonna say what I'm gonna fucking say.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 14, 2012, 04:06:02 PM
Says the master, whatever dude. I know what I'm talking about, you do the bullshit deflect, and bullshit routine I don't give a fuck, I'm gonna say what I'm gonna fucking say.
1/10    moron. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 04:07:15 PM
For a person without emotions you are very emotional.  And you do seem to give a lot of fucks.  I do believe you've been cured.  It's a Christmas miracle.
It's not about having emotions it's about connecting the emotions appropriately. Emotions are displayed and interpreted, on a direct way by normal people. I have impairments in making those 1-1 transfers of emotional content.

My point is that there is no interpersonal emotional exchange, its a internal one.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 04:07:20 PM

not quiet a farmer so - outstanding in his own field

and where does your partner position themselves ?



As far away from me as possible.  It's been a long fifteen years


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 04:08:23 PM
RAtard is just a lazy procrastinator.  Nothing else.  He is trying to hang his hat anywhere else but the one that it belongs on.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 04:09:36 PM
As far away from me as possible.  It's been a long fifteen years


is there a direct relationship between the marriage and the back pain?  



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 04:10:16 PM
It's not about having emotions it's about connecting the emotions appropriately. Emotions are displayed and interpreted, on a direct way by normal people. I have impairments in making those 1-1 transfers of emotional content.

My point is that there is no interpersonal emotional exchange, its a internal one.

You seem able to show empathy for others.  You're fine.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 04:10:42 PM
RAtard is just a lazy procrastinator.  Nothing else.  He is trying to hang his hat anywhere else but the one that it belongs on,
Lazy, how does that fucking factor into anything that is going on in the discussion.


At best this is an obvious admission that your autistic aswell.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 04:11:57 PM
You seem able to show empathy for others.  You're fine.
It's sympathy, not empathy, there's a difference, and it is especially easy on a message board, which is why I live on them.

Which is why the notion that you can say someone on a message board doesn't have it is truly ignorant.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: cart@@n on December 14, 2012, 04:12:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmSH5MREHdw


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 04:14:03 PM
It's sympathy, not empathy, there's a difference, and it is especially easy on a message board, which is why I live on them.

Which is why the notion that you can say someone on a message board doesn't have it is truly ignorant.

Either way, you aren't autistic. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 04:14:36 PM
Lazy, how does that fucking factor into anything that is going on in the discussion.


At best this is an obvious admission that your autistic aswell.

It factors because your laziness is the root of all your problems.  You are a chronic procrastinator which has caused all the failures in your life that you incorrectly attribute to "AssBurgers", "RAtardism", or "Artisticism".


Learn how to prioritize instead of trying to use WebMD to diagnose your non-existent condition which creates a nocebo effect.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: AbrahamG on December 14, 2012, 04:25:54 PM
If you are serious - Lol fucking lol most retarded argument ever, but very typical american.

otherwise nice and clever joke

Fuck no I wasn't serious.  I fucking hate guns, gun rights and anything to do with guns or weapons.  Guns are for PUSSIES who can't fight.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 14, 2012, 04:26:39 PM
Happened in NEWTOwN CT


NEWTOWN=
NEW WORLD=
NEW WORLD ORDER


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 14, 2012, 04:27:40 PM
It factors because your laziness is the root of all your problems.  You are a chronic procrastinator which has caused all the failures in your life that you incorrectly attribute to "AssBurgers", "RAtardism", or "Artisticism".


Learn how to prioritize instead of trying to use WebMD to diagnose your non-existent condition which creates a nocebo effect.
I'm taking this as an admission that you have it as well.

No denial I don't procrastinate, and it's something I have to deal with, but it's hardly the scope of the disorder.

I don't stimm because I procrastinate, I don't have verbal issues because I procrastinated in learning to talk.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 14, 2012, 04:29:09 PM
So this guy was using 2 9mm's and left his AR in the car?  Definitely had aspergers.

All registered to his mother(the teacher) apparently. There isn't any kind of gun control other than making them totally illegal that would have kept the guns out of the teacher sons hands.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 04:31:39 PM

is there a direct relationship between the marriage and the back pain?  



No.  She's more of a pain in the ass. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Emmortal on December 14, 2012, 04:35:11 PM
All registered to his mother(the teacher) apparently. There isn't any kind of gun control other than making them totally illegal that would have kept the guns out of the teacher sons hands.

A locked safe would have been a good start.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2012, 04:36:40 PM
This is reality people , want your children protected at school? laws ain't gonna do it

Elementary school class in Israel.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: AbrahamG on December 14, 2012, 04:37:57 PM
This is reality people , want your children protected at school? laws ain't gonna do it

Elementary school class in Israel.

I suck her tits for sure.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 04:39:02 PM
No.  She's more of a pain in the ass. 

miserable together or happy apart

if you were up to your neck in shit and someone thew a bucket of snot at you what is the intelligent thing to do?

its a bummer of a question to be asked but dwell on it for a moment


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 14, 2012, 04:51:19 PM
This is reality people , want your children protected at school? laws ain't gonna do it

Elementary school class in Israel.

That chick wouldn't stand a chance against anyone who wanted her dead. All a killer would have to do is dress up in a suit and tie with a brief case and walk right up to her with a smile and shoot her before she even knew what was coming.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Alex23 on December 14, 2012, 04:51:37 PM
This is reality people , want your children protected at school? laws ain't gonna do it

Elementary school class in Israel.

Anyone else feels the urge to shoot this lil' motherfucjers?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 14, 2012, 04:54:08 PM
IMOP if we get rid of the guns, we are going to see some serious devastation with explosives. The difference between 26 killed today or everyone in the building blown up.

Human beings have always been crazy. And it isn't going away.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2012, 04:54:11 PM
That chick wouldn't stand a chance against anyone who wanted her dead. All a killer would have to do is dress up in a suit and tie with a brief case and walk right up to her with a smile and shoot her before she even knew what was coming.

Nice scenario , cool story bro  ::) You think she's the only one with a firearm? she gets killed and another comes in her stead with another gun

Guns aren't the end-all be-all solution but it's a fucking of a lot better than nothing. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2012, 05:00:12 PM
IMOP if we get rid of the guns, we are going to see some serious devastation with explosives. The difference between 26 killed today or everyone in the building blown up.

Human beings have always been crazy. And it isn't going away.

Exactly , you can't legislate sanity to the insane. You can't stop them either but hopefully minimize the end result.

And what they are saying is , this guy did something reprehensible but you're gonna have to pay for it , by us infringing on your right to protect your family

This guy knew he's had free range ( no pun ) schools are a ' gun free zone ' he knew he would go unopposed , what does that say about these bullshit ' feel good ' laws?

Want your children protected? fight fire with fire either , a cop at every school or teachers with firearms , or something other than an invitation to murder innocent children at will

This is the reality of the situation , you can lament all you want about how it shoudln't be this way or in a perfect world , well fuck off this is how it is , it has to be dealt with and punishing people who follow laws isn't it and making it easy for those who don't most certainly isn't either.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 05:13:19 PM
If George Zimmerman was doing security at the school, he would of let this white fucked thru no questions asked


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 05:14:33 PM
If George Zimmerman was doing security at the school, he would of let this white fucked thru no questions asked

zimmerman would have been in the cafeteria eating ice cream.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 05:14:36 PM
last reports say he killed his mom in their house, then went to school to kill her class (WTF?). Apparently father learnt about the whole thing after a journalist told him about it only later once it was all said and done...


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Ron on December 14, 2012, 05:20:08 PM
last reports say he killed his mom in their house, then went to school to kill her class. Apparently father learnt about the whole thing after a journalist told him about it...

They were divorced since 2008.

This is so freaking senseless - probably the most devastating news I have heard in a long time.  Being a father of two, a six year old and a nine year old, I cannot fanthom the depravity of a person to go after kids like that. Nothing you can say to the families of this class, except that almost everyone I have talked to is stunned or sorrowful.

Yes, gotta get rid of the semi and automatic guns. But also gotta strengthen the law that gives us citizens the right to have a handgun (max 15 rounds) to defend ourselves against these deranged mental fucks.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Rudee on December 14, 2012, 05:22:48 PM
This is reality people , want your children protected at school? laws ain't gonna do it

Elementary school class in Israel.

Any any body who wanted to get those kids would simply shoot the guardian with the gun that stands in his or her way.   Whoop-de-do!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 05:24:49 PM
zimmerman would have been in the cafeteria eating ice cream.

Zimmerman would have been going the opposite way in hot pursuit of a suspicious black male.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: chaos on December 14, 2012, 05:25:57 PM
They were divorced since 2008.

This is so freaking senseless - probably the most devastating news I have heard in a long time.  Being a father of two, a six year old and a nine year old, I cannot fanthom the depravity of a person to go after kids like that. Nothing you can say to the families of this class, except that almost everyone I have talked to is stunned or sorrowful.

Yes, gotta get rid of the semi and automatic guns. But also gotta strengthen the law that gives us citizens the right to have a handgun (max 15 rounds) to defend ourselves against these deranged mental fucks.



Living in California Ron I thought you should know the legal number of rounds for any gun is 10, unless it's older and grangfathered in. You should also know that oulawing guns will only make things worse, again, laws only apply to people who obey them.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 05:26:07 PM
They were divorced since 2008.

This is so freaking senseless - probably the most devastating news I have heard in a long time.  Being a father of two, a six year old and a nine year old, I cannot fanthom the depravity of a person to go after kids like that. Nothing you can say to the families of this class, except that almost everyone I have talked to is stunned or sorrowful.

Yes, gotta get rid of the semi and automatic guns. But also gotta strengthen the law that gives us citizens the right to have a handgun (max 15 rounds) to defend ourselves against these deranged mental fucks.


Father probably went right to his weapons and ammo stash to verify his son didnt steal his weapons first and foremost. And probably realized some guns were missing. It will be interesting to know the origin of the weapons.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2012, 05:26:39 PM
Any any body who wanted to get those kids would simply shoot the guardian with the gun that stands in his or her way.   Whoop-de-do!

Like I said you really can't prevent these people but what's the alternative? let them have at it?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 05:26:49 PM
They should make guns and bullets as illegal as steroids

It's so much safer knowing roid rage isn't wild in America anymore


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 05:31:08 PM
Living in California Ron I thought you should know the legal number of rounds for any gun is 10, unless it's older and grangfathered in. You should also know that oulawing guns will only make things worse, again, laws only apply to people who obey them.

I guess he's arguing that getting these guns out of circulation will cut down on access.  Assuming the killer took legally registered weapons that might work.  For the most part the cat is already out of the bag and the weapons are out there now so it's pretty much a moot point.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 05:31:46 PM
Unless police officers can respond to every 911 call within 30sec of making that call, guns should never be outlawed

Police don't protect, they only come with chalk to outline the dead bodies and take pictures to solve the crime


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 05:33:00 PM
People, smarten the fuck up...the real question beside what did his family do to that kid so he end killing mother and random kids at schools, is, HOW DID HE GET HIS HANDS ON WEAPONS WITHOUT ANYONE NOTICING. I said weapons were prolly his father's, but let's see. If it's indeed the father's weapons, dude is the next to kill himself.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2012, 05:33:10 PM
They were divorced since 2008.

This is so freaking senseless - probably the most devastating news I have heard in a long time.  Being a father of two, a six year old and a nine year old, I cannot fanthom the depravity of a person to go after kids like that. Nothing you can say to the families of this class, except that almost everyone I have talked to is stunned or sorrowful.

Yes, gotta get rid of the semi and automatic guns. But also gotta strengthen the law that gives us citizens the right to have a handgun (max 15 rounds) to defend ourselves against these deranged mental fucks.



Automatic guns? get rid of them? they did Ron in 1986 they banned the manufacturer of all new fully-automatic firearms , you can still buy the ones grandfathered in but they are so cost prohibitive it's not feasible ( fully auto M16 goes for around $15-20 thousand dollars ) 

You want to ban semi-autos yet want to have a hand gun that fires max 15 rounds? that's an oxymoron. semi-auto means the firearm discharges one round per pull of the trigger , full auto will discharge all rounds with one pull of the trigger

Again you can't legislative sanity to the insane , this guy broke dozens of laws already on the books , new ones wouldn't have changed this , or prevented it. It sucks that it's that way but passing new laws that hurt innocent people isn't the solution , especially considering these people intend on breaking them anyway.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2012, 05:36:53 PM
I guess he's arguing that getting these guns out of circulation will cut down on access.  Assuming the killer took legally registered weapons that might work.  For the most part the cat is already out of the bag and the weapons are out there now so it's pretty much a moot point.

Pandora's box is open and you can NEVER close it again. And if magically all the firearms were banned and disappeared , it would be mad-man strapped himself with home-made explosives and killed 50 children

Lunatics bent on destruction really can't be stopped


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Ron on December 14, 2012, 05:37:08 PM
Living in California Ron I thought you should know the legal number of rounds for any gun is 10, unless it's older and grangfathered in. You should also know that oulawing guns will only make things worse, again, laws only apply to people who obey them.

I don't want guns to be outlawed. Just the opposite.  Just certain guns that obviously we all talk about, not the ones that we need to defend our families.  There is a difference.  

Imagine if someone had a gun there. Lives might of been saved.  Right when he went into the school and shot the principal and office first.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 05:37:14 PM
They keep talking about this rifle he had, but i heard he left the rifle in the car an killed everyone with a hand gun, he never fired the rifle


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 14, 2012, 05:38:34 PM
laws only apply to people who obey them.

so why bother with laws ?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 14, 2012, 05:40:42 PM
so why bother with laws ?

Those that don't bother with laws do not care about prison or death.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 05:41:20 PM
Pandora's box is open and you can NEVER close it again. And if magically all the firearms were banned and disappeared , it would be mad-man strapped himself with home-made explosives and killed 50 children

Lunatics bent on destruction really can't be stopped

I agree 100%


I don't want guns to be outlawed. Just the opposite.  Just certain guns that obviously we all talk about, not the ones that we need to defend our families.  There is a difference.  

Imagine if someone had a gun there. Lives might of been saved.  Right when he went into the school and shot the principal and office first.


Maybe but there is no guarantee of that. That's a picture perfect scenario.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2012, 05:47:31 PM
so why bother with laws ?

It's feel good legislation , they pass these laws pat them selves on the backs for a job well done , and nothing really gets accomplished , case in point

Gun-free school zones , it's illegal for a law-abiding citizen who owns a legal firearm from bringing it on school grounds , these insane people know they will go unopposed when they do these acts

Laws are passed to punish-after the fact , these people usually take the easy way out anyway so once again it's redundant.

This guy broke a host of laws already on the books , laws don't prevent these things and only punish the people who follow them


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 05:54:40 PM
People, smarten the fuck up...the real question beside what did his family do to that kid so he end killing mother and random kids at schools, is, HOW DID HE GET HIS HANDS ON WEAPONS WITHOUT ANYONE NOTICING. I said weapons were prolly his father's, but let's see. If it's indeed the father's weapons, dude is the next to kill himself.



No, its been confirmed the gun actually belonged to the mother. Well, they were under her name. Who used them most is another story.

The weapons used in Friday’s shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., were legally purchased and registered to Nancy Lanza, the mother of the gunman, Adam Lanza, two law enforcement officials told NBC News.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: chaos on December 14, 2012, 05:58:27 PM
I don't want guns to be outlawed. Just the opposite.  Just certain guns that obviously we all talk about, not the ones that we need to defend our families.  There is a difference.  

Imagine if someone had a gun there. Lives might of been saved.  Right when he went into the school and shot the principal and office first.

I was just letting you know in CA the law is 10 rounds and for rifles they have to have a "bullet button" to remove the magazine.

These tragic events always get turned into gun debates instead of focusing on why this person did this.


Title: Re: Gunman, child dead in Conn. elementary school shooting
Post by: Radical Plato on December 14, 2012, 05:59:44 PM
The natural result of a Godless anti-christ society.
It's actually the opposite, it's the result of a society that worships GOD, atheists are the minority, making up only about 5% of the population, the rest are God Botherers of some sort.  Statistically speaking, communities that are heavily atheist have a far lower homicide rate than GOD Bothering communities.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 06:01:13 PM
 :(


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 14, 2012, 06:02:12 PM
In Australia, this shit never happens, it's virtually impossible to get a gun of any sort, even responsible people have to jump through hoops to own a gun. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 06:03:41 PM
In Australia, this shit never happens, it's virtually impossible to get a gun of any sort, even responsible people have to jump through hoops to own a gun. 

In certain parts of the USA you can buy a guy like buying candy. Some stats have extremely lax gun laws.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 06:12:43 PM
There are 300,000,000 million guns in the USA. I open my refrigerator and a gun falls out. I opened my sock draw and I had no socks but I had two pistols. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 06:13:37 PM
There are 300,000,000 million guns in the USA. I open my refrigerator and a gun falls out. I opened my sock draw and I had no socks but I had two pistols. 

Did you accidentally try to put the pistols on your feet?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2012, 06:14:52 PM
In Australia, this shit never happens, it's virtually impossible to get a gun of any sort, even responsible people have to jump through hoops to own a gun. 

Good for Australia , wouldn't work in the U.S we're a violent people


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Emmortal on December 14, 2012, 06:15:25 PM
I guess he's arguing that getting these guns out of circulation will cut down on access.  Assuming the killer took legally registered weapons that might work.  For the most part the cat is already out of the bag and the weapons are out there now so it's pretty much a moot point.

The 2 9mm's he used in the killings (no assault rifles or automatics were used) were from his mother which were registered to her and legally obtained by her from what I've read in reports.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Big N on December 14, 2012, 06:15:45 PM
This


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 14, 2012, 06:16:09 PM
I know the gun nuts are in denial, their is no need for the entire population to be owning guns, it's crazy.  In Australia, 1996 we had a lone nutjob shoot and kill 35 people (some say it was a Govt. Psyop), but anyway, the government outlawed guns, introduced a buyback scheme for everyone to hand in their weapons and heavily regulated gun ownership.  No-one owns guns, except maybe a few enthusiasts, farmers and hunters (and they are heavily monitored).  Personally, I don't know why people feel the need to own a gun unless they are enthusiasts, farmers or hunters.  it doesn't make any sense.  People can make all types of crazy arguments until they are blue in the face, but you can't argue with No Guns = No mass School shootings.  if you cant get access to guns, you can't kill a lot of people in a short period of time, it really is that simple, unless your a GUN NUT!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Emmortal on December 14, 2012, 06:16:50 PM
They keep talking about this rifle he had, but i heard he left the rifle in the car an killed everyone with a hand gun, he never fired the rifle

This.  The AR was left in the trunk of his car and he only used 2 9mm hand guns in the shooting.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2012, 06:17:49 PM
I know the gun nuts are in denial, their is no need for the entire population to be owning guns, it's crazy.  In Australia, 1996 we had a lone nutjob shoot and kill 35 people (some say it was a Govt. Psyop), but anyway, the government outlawed guns, introduced a buyback scheme for everyone to hand in their weapons and heavily regulated gun ownership.  No-one owns guns, except maybe a few enthusiasts, farmers and hunters (and they are heavily monitored).  Personally, I don't know why people feel the need to own a gun unless they are enthusiasts, farmers or hunters.  it doesn't make any sense.  People can make all types of crazy arguments until they are blue in the face, but you can't argue with No Guns = No mass School shootings.  if you cant get access to guns, you can't kill a lot of people in a short period of time, it really is that simple, unless your a GUN NUT!

Gun culture is to deeply engrained in the United States.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Emmortal on December 14, 2012, 06:18:00 PM
In certain parts of the USA you can buy a guy like buying candy. Some stats have extremely lax gun laws.

You can walk into any gun show in any state and buy one with no back ground check.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2012, 06:19:32 PM
You can walk into any gun show in any state and buy one with no back ground check.

thats pretty crazy  :'( :'(


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 06:20:41 PM
Gun culture is to deeply engrained in the United States.  
"Gun culture" and faith in God are the reason why the white race will survive there while it is disapearing from atheist europe , where people are being replaced by muslims.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: garebear on December 14, 2012, 06:21:26 PM
There are school stabbings sometimes in China. Zero people died yesterday at this one. Zero. It's true that guns don't kill people, but it is beyond idiotic to keep on pretending that they are not enabling the massacre numbers to climb.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/12/14/china-school-stabbings/1770395/


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 06:22:57 PM
This.  The AR was left in the trunk of his car and he only used 2 9mm hand guns in the shooting.

Maybe he locked the keys in his car and couldn't open the trunk.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2012, 06:31:43 PM
if you cant get access to guns, you can't kill a lot of people in a short period of time, it really is that simple, unless your a GUN NUT!

You're mistaken , you can via other methods. IED , home-made explosives , incendiaries , use your head and stop being childish and the potential with those is even higher for more casualties



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Princess L on December 14, 2012, 06:32:02 PM
last reports say he killed his mom in their house, then went to school to kill her class (WTF?). Apparently father learnt about the whole thing after a journalist told him about it only later once it was all said and done...

 Adam Lanza, the 20-year-old who killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut this morning, was "obviously not well," a relative told ABC News.

Family friends in Newtown also described the young man as troubled and described his mother Nancy as very rigid. "[Adam] was not connected with the other kids," said one friend.

Late today, police said Nancy Lanza's body was found in the family home. According to sources, Lanza shot his mother in the face, then left the house armed with at least two semi-automatic handguns and a semi-automatic rifle.

State and federal authorities believe his mother may have once worked at the elementary school where Adam went on his deadly rampage, although she was not a teacher, according to relatives, perhaps a volunteer.

http://gma.yahoo.com/connecticut-shooter-adam-lanza-obviously-not-well-182011729--abc-news-topstories.html


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 14, 2012, 06:34:21 PM
You're mistaken , you can via other methods. IED , home-made explosives , incendiaries , use your head and stop being childish and the potential with those is even higher for more casualties


Hello Mr Gun Nut, the other devices you mentioned are even harder to get, and I would say, almost Impossible to get in this country.  I know someone who sells garden supplies and is heavily monitored by the Feds when buying Fertiliser, hence the reason we don't have people blowing each other up or shooting masses of innocent children.  Why make it easy for someone having a bad day to kill masses of children.  Gun Loving Americans, the really passionate type are pretty crazy, they are the greatest proof for banning guns, do you really want to live next door to someone that would literally kill other people for their right to own guns.   Once again, it's fairly basic maths, NO ACCESS TO WEAPONS CAPABLE OF KILLING LOTS OF PEOPLE IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME = NO MASS KILLINGS


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: dirtbikeguy on December 14, 2012, 06:34:47 PM
Very Sad. As a parent I couldn't even imagine this. Shit like this doesn't happen in Canada. This piece of shit will be forgotten in days....the children won't.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Rudee on December 14, 2012, 06:41:08 PM
Was it really necessary to have his brother in hand cuffs?????    He could of simply been escorted into the back of a police car without being in hand cuffs while the news cameras were rolling.   If the brother had zero involvement, I would say he's suffered a huge loss today.. His brother, his mother.  For the rest of his life people are going to say "hey, that's the brother of that mass murdered in Connecticut!".


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2012, 06:41:18 PM
Hello Mr Gun Nut, the other devices you mentioned are even harder to get, and I would say, almost Impossible to get in this country.  I know someone who sells garden supplies and is heavily monitored by the Feds when buying Fertiliser, hence the reason we don't have people blowing each other up or shooting masses of innocent children.  Why make it easy for someone having a bad day to kill masses of children.  Gun Loving Americans, the really passionate type are pretty crazy, they are the greatest proof for banning guns, do you really want to live next door to someone that would literally kill other people for their right to own guns.   Once again, it's fairly basic maths, NO ACCESS TO WEAPONS CAPABLE OF KILLING LOTS OF PEOPLE IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME = NO MASS KILLINGS

Wrong again , basic house hold products which are widely available in any country can be used easily to create a bomb , you can't argue to the contrary

and again oversimplification , and not accurate. You put almost no thought into your childish post.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Polish Power on December 14, 2012, 06:44:07 PM
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Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Emmortal on December 14, 2012, 06:44:27 PM
Very Sad. As a parent I couldn't even imagine this. Shit like this doesn't happen in Canada. This piece of shit will be forgotten in days....the children won't.

Unfortunately because of our media, he won't be forgotten in days and this will just inspire more tragedies to the mentally iill out there who wish to have their names in lights.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Big N on December 14, 2012, 06:44:49 PM
I'm hearing this kid killed his mother, father and brother? Somebody confirm this - Thanks


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 06:48:28 PM
I'm hearing this kid killed his mother, father and brother? Somebody confirm this - Thanks

Mother , school principle , 4 other adults who worked at school and 20 kids all about 5yrs old

Brother and father are alive


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 06:50:51 PM
Girl i was friends with in grammar and high school has two daughters in the school.  She FB pm'd me that they are safe thank heavens. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Big N on December 14, 2012, 06:51:58 PM
Mother , school principle , 4 other adults who worked at school and 20 kids all about 5yrs old

Brother and father are alive

Got it. And apparently all the weapons used by this kid was legally purchased by the mom. Also I think he had an on going dispute with her as well.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nails on December 14, 2012, 06:54:26 PM
Got it. And apparently all the weapons used by this kid was legally purchased by the mom. Also I think he had an on going dispute with her as well.

The older brother said he had not talked to his younger brother in over 2 years because he was a fucking nut case


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 06:56:11 PM
Wrong again , basic house hold products which are widely available in any country can be used easily to create a bomb , you can't argue to the contrary

and again oversimplification , and not accurate. You put almost no thought into your childish post.

You're comparing dish soap and Clorox bleach to a Sig 9mm.  Hahahahaa.  

I don't give a fuck who has guns- Lunatics, cops, serial killers etc. But I know the difference in a Glock 19 and a bottle of Windex- one kills 20 kids, the other cleans my sliding glass door.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Jack T. Cross on December 14, 2012, 07:00:31 PM
I was just letting you know in CA the law is 10 rounds and for rifles they have to have a "bullet button" to remove the magazine.

These tragic events always get turned into gun debates instead of focusing on why this person did this.

Yes.  It's absolute bullshit.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2012, 07:05:35 PM
You're comparing dish soap and Clorox bleach to a Sig 9mm.  Hahahahaa.  

I don't give a fuck who has guns. Lunatics, cops, serial killers etc. But I know the difference in a Glock 19 and a bottle of Windex- one kills 20 kids, the other cleans my sliding glass door.  


No I'm comparing common items that can be used as a bomb which has the potential to just as much harm or more , found this in two seconds , seriously use your head. You don't need a gun to cause destruction like this

Acetone Peroxide
Acetone Peroxide is an explosive made with 2 easy to get ingredients. Be careful doing this because AP is a highly volatile and unpredictable.

Chemicals needed
Acetone
Hydrogen Peroxide
Muriatic Acid (If you don't have this around go to a pool store)

Items needed
2 Glass Jars
Measuring cup
Old T shirt or rag

How to make it
1-First you wan't to Measure out 650mL of Acetone.
2-Now Measure out 1000 ml of Hydrogen peroxide.
3-Put both of these in a jar stir and mix them together well.
4-Put this mixture in your freezer for about 5 minutes.
5-Get your second jar and measure out 500 mL muriatic acid.
6-Cover the jar and put it in the freezer for an hour or 2.
7-Once you take it out mix this and the hydrogen peroxide/Acetone mixture together.
8-Put this new mixture in the freezer for 24 hours and you should see a white substance at the bottom of the jar. This is the AP.

Molotov Cocktail
The Molotov cocktail is an extremely easy to make incendiary device you can make at home.

What you need
1-Glass bottle
2-A rag
3-Gasoline
4-Motor oil
5-Styrofoam (Optional)

How to make it
1-Fill the glass bottle half way with gasoline.
2-Fill 25% of the bottle with Motor oil
3-If you have the Styrofoam you can add this to the mixture as a thickening agent. This will cause it to stick to whatever you threw it at and it will make it burn longer.
4-Tie a rag or other piece of cloth around the neck of the bottle.
5-Soak the rag in gasoline of kerosene and throw it.

Sparkler Bomb
Even though you may not have sparklers laying around they are easily found and dirt cheap. For this one all you need to do is a buy a lot of sparklers. The more you buy obviously the bigger the explosion will be.

Wrap the sparklers together tightly with electrical tape. As a fuse you can use another sparkler that is sticking out of the bomb. The more safe way is to just go and get some cannon fuse. Light this and it will blow up.

Pipe Bomb
Get a section of metal water pipe, about 1/2 inch around and 6 inches long.
Get two metal caps that are sized to fit that pipe. These are easily
acquired in most hardware stores.

Drill a hole, about 1/16 inch in diameter, in the center of the pipe this is where the fuse will go. Screw one of the caps onto the pipe. Then you want to run the fuse through the pipe. After that what you want to do is take the black powder or other explosive and fill the pipe with it. You can also add nails or other objects for extra shrapnel. Once you've done this put the other cap onto the end of the pipe and you're ready to go.

Works Bomb
The works bomb isn't really that lethal but it's extremely simple to make and can be fun. All you need is some tin foil and some works toilet cleaner. You will also need a bottle of some kind. Thicker bottles such as a Gatorade one will make a louder explosion. All you have to do is cut the foil into strips and put them in the bottle. Then add enough works cleaner equal to the foil. Shake it and throw it. It can take up to a minute to explode but when you see white smoke forming in the bottle you know it's working.




Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 07:06:07 PM
The more that comes out - the more it will be seen that this freak was on meds, a known psycho, in therapy, etc  Count on it


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 07:06:35 PM
The last six months in the USA:

April 2 - A gunman kills seven people and wounds three in a shooting rampage at a Christian college in Oakland.

July 20 - A masked gunman kills 12 people and wounds 58 when he opens fire on moviegoers at a showing of the Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises" in Aurora, a suburb of Denver, Colorado.

August 5 - A gunman kills six people during Sunday services at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, before he is shot dead by a police officer.

August 24 - Two people are killed and eight wounded in a shooting outside the landmark Empire State Building in New York City at the height of the tourist season.

September 27 - A disgruntled former employee kills five people and takes his own life in a shooting rampage at a Minneapolis sign company from which he had been fired.

October 21 - Three people are killed in a Milwaukee area spa including the estranged wife of the suspected gunman, who then killed himself.

December 14 - A shooter opens fire at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, killing 28 people including children.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2012, 07:08:09 PM
The last six months in the USA:

April 2 - A gunman kills seven people and wounds three in a shooting rampage at a Christian college in Oakland.

July 20 - A masked gunman kills 12 people and wounds 58 when he opens fire on moviegoers at a showing of the Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises" in Aurora, a suburb of Denver, Colorado.

August 5 - A gunman kills six people during Sunday services at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, before he is shot dead by a police officer.

August 24 - Two people are killed and eight wounded in a shooting outside the landmark Empire State Building in New York City at the height of the tourist season.

September 27 - A disgruntled former employee kills five people and takes his own life in a shooting rampage at a Minneapolis sign company from which he had been fired.

October 21 - Three people are killed in a Milwaukee area spa including the estranged wife of the suspected gunman, who then killed himself.

December 14 - A shooter opens fire at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, killing 28 people including children.



Wow news to us  ::) America is violent thanks captain obvious


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Fury on December 14, 2012, 07:11:53 PM
I was just letting you know in CA the law is 10 rounds and for rifles they have to have a "bullet button" to remove the magazine.

These tragic events always get turned into gun debates instead of focusing on why this person did this.

We should be having a talk about mental illness in this country but that will fall to the wayside as dipshits like TommyWishbone try to strongarm the rest of us into some idiotic move that won't fix anything.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 07:12:24 PM
I know the gun nuts are in denial, their is no need for the entire population to be owning guns, it's crazy.  In Australia, 1996 we had a lone nutjob shoot and kill 35 people (some say it was a Govt. Psyop), but anyway, the government outlawed guns, introduced a buyback scheme for everyone to hand in their weapons and heavily regulated gun ownership.  No-one owns guns, except maybe a few enthusiasts, farmers and hunters (and they are heavily monitored).  Personally, I don't know why people feel the need to own a gun unless they are enthusiasts, farmers or hunters.  it doesn't make any sense.  People can make all types of crazy arguments until they are blue in the face, but you can't argue with No Guns = No mass School shootings.  if you cant get access to guns, you can't kill a lot of people in a short period of time, it really is that simple, unless your a GUN NUT!
Listen up and listen good.  The United States is a rather expansive land with most major cities clustered in just a few locations.  These cities have police availability, capabilities and response times whereas rural areas may not even have police and have to rely on a County Sheriff or other Municipality.

  Most of the United States is in fact rural as far as number total number of cities and towns go.  Someone breaks in your house and the nearest police officer is a good 20 miles away, what are you supposed to do?  

This is precisely why banning guns is moronic.  The idiots in big cities seem to forget about the rest of the United States when they preach the anti-gun nonsense when they have 30-100 police officers per square mile.  They have no business dictating gun laws for the entire country whatsoever.

Furthermore, our Constitution guarantees it as a right, end of story.  I hope this is clear.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 07:12:50 PM
Don't go blaming me ND when a box of Tide laundry detergent explodes and kills you.  I'll sing a nice song at your funeral.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 07:13:57 PM
"Listen up and listen good."


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2012, 07:14:47 PM
Don't go blaming me ND when a box of Tide laundry detergent explodes and kills you.  I'll sing a nice song at your funeral.

Seriously this the best you got?  ??? take all the guns away America will still be violent. Guns aren't making Americans violent , we should be asking what is.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 07:16:36 PM
Listen up and listen good.  The United States is a rather expansive land with most major cities clustered in just a few locations.  These cities have police availability, capabilities and response times whereas rural areas may not even have police and have to rely on a County Sheriff or other Municipality.

  Most of the United States is in fact rural as far as number total number of cities and towns go.  Someone breaks in your house and the nearest police officer is a good 20 miles away, what are you supposed to do?  

This is precisely why banning guns is moronic.  The idiots in big cities seem to forget about the rest of the United States when they preach the anti-gun nonsense when they have 30-100 police officers per square mile.  They have no business dictating gun laws for the entire country whatsoever.

Furthermore, our Constitution guarantees it as a right, end of story.  I hope this is clear.

After the phrase, "end of story" one generally ends the story. You added more.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 07:19:10 PM
Seriously this the best you got?  ??? take all the guns away America will still be violent. Guns aren't making Americans violent , we should be asking what is.

Relax man.   Gun control is moot. Everybody knows that.    I am not for gun control- I'm just saying our culture and the availability of guns in the USA is crazy.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Voice of Doom on December 14, 2012, 07:20:23 PM
I know the gun nuts are in denial, their is no need for the entire population to be owning guns, it's crazy.  In Australia, 1996 we had a lone nutjob shoot and kill 35 people (some say it was a Govt. Psyop), but anyway, the government outlawed guns, introduced a buyback scheme for everyone to hand in their weapons and heavily regulated gun ownership.  No-one owns guns, except maybe a few enthusiasts, farmers and hunters (and they are heavily monitored).  Personally, I don't know why people feel the need to own a gun unless they are enthusiasts, farmers or hunters.  it doesn't make any sense.  People can make all types of crazy arguments until they are blue in the face, but you can't argue with No Guns = No mass School shootings.  if you cant get access to guns, you can't kill a lot of people in a short period of time, it really is that simple, unless your a GUN NUT!

Really?  Tim McVeigh killed hundreds of people in a short period of time...without guns.  How's that happen?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 14, 2012, 07:20:49 PM
What young white children need is love and respect at an early age, preferably during all their teens, and none of this would happen.

It is very important how a young mind evolves from 7 years to 20 years.

From 7 to 15, a good upbringing and respectful comrades help build a strong mind, giving him a sense of belonging and that he has value.

Even less chance of anything like this happening if he gets laid regularly from 16 to 20.

Think about this when raising new children. Avoid creating more of these mass-murdering youngsters that has been bullied or mistreated by their parents / peers during the most important years, the years that shape what kind of man you will become.

Also, avoid blacks and arabs, prevent your children from meeting such people since they can give them ideas.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: ChopperRider on December 14, 2012, 07:22:00 PM
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With all respect to the victims of today's tragedy.

The gun statistics are wildly misleading. The majority of the gun killings are committed by gang members, drug dealers, and criminals with extensive records. Quite frankly, if two crackheads want to shoot it out with two gang banging cartel members and all die in a hail of gunfire, most Americans don't care.

RIP to the innocent people who lost their lives today by the actions of a mentally disturbed maniac.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: ChopperRider on December 14, 2012, 07:25:10 PM
The last six months in the USA:

April 2 - A gunman kills seven people and wounds three in a shooting rampage at a Christian college in Oakland.

July 20 - A masked gunman kills 12 people and wounds 58 when he opens fire on moviegoers at a showing of the Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises" in Aurora, a suburb of Denver, Colorado.

August 5 - A gunman kills six people during Sunday services at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, before he is shot dead by a police officer.

August 24 - Two people are killed and eight wounded in a shooting outside the landmark Empire State Building in New York City at the height of the tourist season.

September 27 - A disgruntled former employee kills five people and takes his own life in a shooting rampage at a Minneapolis sign company from which he had been fired.

October 21 - Three people are killed in a Milwaukee area spa including the estranged wife of the suspected gunman, who then killed himself.

December 14 - A shooter opens fire at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, killing 28 people including children.



All tragic of course. Now, by comparison, how many shootings occurred in gun free Chicago over the same time period?

Crazy people will find the means and methods to inflict their craziness on others if they are he'll bent on hurting someone.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 07:30:49 PM
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::)

Totally Misleading statistic.

The number of Homicides per 100,000 in the United States is only 2.98.

By contrast, Austria is 2.94.

Yet you want to make out like the United States is the Wild West.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 14, 2012, 07:35:52 PM
Listen up and listen good.  The United States is a rather expansive land with most major cities clustered in just a few locations.  These cities have police availability, capabilities and response times whereas rural areas may not even have police and have to rely on a County Sheriff or other Municipality.

  Most of the United States is in fact rural as far as number total number of cities and towns go.  Someone breaks in your house and the nearest police officer is a good 20 miles away, what are you supposed to do?  

This is precisely why banning guns is moronic.  The idiots in big cities seem to forget about the rest of the United States when they preach the anti-gun nonsense when they have 30-100 police officers per square mile.  They have no business dictating gun laws for the entire country whatsoever.

Furthermore, our Constitution guarantees it as a right, end of story.  I hope this is clear.

Pretty accurate. In a split-second life or death situation the police are only minutes away.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Princess L on December 14, 2012, 07:37:05 PM
The more that comes out - the more it will be seen that this freak was on meds, a known psycho, in therapy, etc  Count on it
with mommy issues


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 07:39:56 PM
Pretty accurate. In a split-second life or death situation the police are only minutes away.
They can be half an hour away to an hour away or more in a lot of the United States.  

Besides, the homicide rate per 100,000 is not that high at all as I stated earlier.

If morons would just look at the facts and not be swayed by sensationalism and myth, then we would see that the most reasonable approach is the one where we do nothing and continue with the 2nd amendment as it is.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Marty Champions on December 14, 2012, 07:42:22 PM
::)

Totally Misleading statistic.

The number of Homicides per 100,000 in the United States is only 2.98.

By contrast, Austria is 2.94.

Yet you want to make out like the United States is the Wild West.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
interesting good post


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 07:43:52 PM
with mommy issues
and father issues. Clearly mom must have been out of her mind herself to let him know where the guns were... she s the only responsible for all of this to have happened. You dont let your kids know where your weapons and ammo are, especialy if you are yourself mentally unstable -after the breakup with father?- and so is the son remaining with you.

 And where did the rifle some of you talked about supposedly left in the car come from btw? His mother, too?  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 07:46:58 PM
clearly mom let him know where the guns were... she s the only responsible for all of this to have happened. You dont let your kids know where your weapons and ammo are. And where did the rifle come from btw? His mother, too? 
Mommy also took him to church and was known as being very rigid, strict and religious.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 07:47:44 PM
In Austria, annual handgun homicides total

2010: 1
2009: 6
2008: 1
2007: 3
2006: 1
2005: 5
2003: 4
2002: 3

In the United States, annual handgun homicides total

2009: 9,146
2008: 9,484
2007: 10,129
2006: 10,225
2005: 10,158
2004: 9,385
2003: 9,659
2002: 9,369
2001: 8,890
1999: 8,259
1998: 9,257





Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: mad hatter on December 14, 2012, 07:50:01 PM
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West Germany? Where did you get this from? Just curious.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 14, 2012, 07:50:58 PM
We should be having a talk about mental illness in this country but that will fall to the wayside as dipshits like TommyWishbone try to strongarm the rest of us into some idiotic move that won't fix anything.

Thank you,

goddamn near sighted fools...


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 07:54:32 PM
We should be having a talk about mental illness in this country but that will fall to the wayside as dipshits like TommyWishbone try to strongarm the rest of us into some idiotic move that won't fix anything.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 14, 2012, 07:57:11 PM
Anyone that questions our Second Amendment Rights is an ignorant fool.

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-B. Franklin


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: cart@@n on December 14, 2012, 07:58:58 PM
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In Brazil, 35.233 were killed by guns in 2010. Note that firearms are illegal in Brazil since 2003.

http://www.imparesonline.com.br/2011/12/barsil-campeao-de-armas-e-de-mortes-por.html


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 14, 2012, 08:00:49 PM
Not to go 333386 here, but I absolutely despise anyone that even questions our right to keep and bear arms.  Especially in the wake of something like this.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: viking1 on December 14, 2012, 08:01:48 PM
In Austria, annual handgun homicides total

2010: 1
2009: 6
2008: 1
2007: 3
2006: 1
2005: 5
2003: 4
2002: 3

In the United States, annual handgun homicides total

2009: 9,146
2008: 9,484
2007: 10,129
2006: 10,225
2005: 10,158
2004: 9,385
2003: 9,659
2002: 9,369
2001: 8,890
1999: 8,259
1998: 9,257





Pretty low numbers considering the population is over 300 million.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 08:02:20 PM
Yes, I'm all for gun control- as long as I control all the guns.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 14, 2012, 08:02:26 PM
They can be half an hour away to an hour away or more in a lot of the United States.  

Besides, the homicide rate per 100,000 is not that high at all as I stated earlier.

If morons would just look at the facts and not be swayed by sensationalism and myth, then we would see that the most reasonable approach is the one where we do nothing and continue with the 2nd amendment as it is.



I wouldn't say do nothing. security at these schools needs to be improved. Look at inner city schools..one way in, one way out and you pass through a metal detector with armed security overseeing the whole deal. and if you just walk up, you are on camera, and they ask you for ID and to state your business before they let you in.

if you shoot the guard, you are in a hallway with electronically locked doors barring you from getting to the classrooms. yeah you killed a guard and that sucks, but you didn't kill 20 kids

That's why these sick bastards target suburban schools, they are soft targets with plenty of victims. It sure won't stop a determined person from hurting people, but it will deter them and lessen the catastrophe..it's way too easy the way things are now.

I used to walk up to my daughter's classroom and pick her up from elementary school, and nobody said a word to me.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 08:03:31 PM
In Brazil, 35.233 were killed by guns in 2010. Note that firearms are illegal in Brazil since 2003.
Brazil is nearly 9 times worse than the United States as far as Homicides with firearms per 100,000 go and yet they have banned guns.   :D  Seems like its working well.  :D

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/compare/194/rate_of_gun_homicide/26


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 08:09:46 PM
I wouldn't say do nothing. security at these schools needs to be improved. Look at inner city schools..one way in, one way out and you pass through a metal detector with armed security overseeing the whole deal. and if you just walk up, you are on camera, and they ask you for ID and to state your business before they let you in.

if you shoot the guard, you are in a hallway with electronically locked doors barring you from getting to the classrooms. yeah you killed a guard and that sucks, but you didn't kill 20 kids

That's why these sick bastards target suburban schools, they are soft targets with plenty of victims. It sure won't stop a determined person from hurting people, but it will deter them and lessen the catastrophe..it's way too easy the way things are now.

I used to walk up to my daughter's classroom and pick her up from elementary school, and nobody said a word to me.
I meant doing nothing as far as restricting firearms.

They should step up security at schools by hiring guards, improving locks, methods of entry etc...

Someone did let this guy in.  From what I understand, he had to be buzzed in and someone did just that.  Buzzed him right in.  That is a failure.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 08:11:33 PM
What young white children need is love and respect at an early age, preferably during all their teens, and none of this would happen.

It is very important how a young mind evolves from 7 years to 20 years.

From 7 to 15, a good upbringing and respectful comrades help build a strong mind, giving him a sense of belonging and that he has value.

Even less chance of anything like this happening if he gets laid regularly from 16 to 20.

Think about this when raising new children. Avoid creating more of these mass-murdering youngsters that has been bullied or mistreated by their parents / peers during the most important years, the years that shape what kind of man you will become.

Also, avoid blacks and arabs, prevent your children from meeting such people since they can give them ideas.
And control their friends and tv/internet browsing sessions. Basic common sense that has been abandonned by most parents for at least 2 decades. Well, to be completely honnest, most people from the higher social classes always have raised their kids that way. It s often people from the middle and lower social classes who forget about this. Just like women kids exist to be shaped, if you dont shape them, someone, something else will. Dont come whining then when they "dont turn out the way you wanted them to be".


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 08:11:37 PM
Thrown out of the Ramones. . . become a mass murderer.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 14, 2012, 08:15:37 PM
I meant doing nothing as far as restricting firearms.

They should step up security at schools by hiring guards, improving locks, methods of entry etc...

Someone did let this guy in.  From what I understand, he had to be buzzed in and someone did just that.  Buzzed him right in.  That is a failure.

Total failure. that's fucked up. a Metal detector , safety doors and an armed guard will fix that real quick.  like an airlock. can't get in unless you are good to go


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Polish Power on December 14, 2012, 08:19:20 PM
The population of Japan is 126,475,664 people.

ChartIn Japan, annual firearm homicides total

2008: 119
2002: 4712
2001: 56
1997: 3413
1996: 36
1995: 42
CompareRate of Gun Homicide per 100,000 People
ChartIn Japan, the annual rate of firearm homicide per 100,000 population is

2008: 0.09
2002: 0.0412
2001: 0.04
1997: 0.0313
1996: 0.03
1995: 0.03
1994: 0.0214


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Princess L on December 14, 2012, 08:23:05 PM
and father issues. Clearly mom must have been out of her mind herself to let him know where the guns were... she s the only responsible for all of this to have happened. You dont let your kids know where your weapons and ammo are, especialy if you are yourself mentally unstable -after the breakup with father?- and so is the son remaining with you.

 And where did the rifle some of you talked about supposedly left in the car come from btw? His mother, too?  

I heard all of the guns were registered to the mother.  He lived with her.  Clearly he had some major mother issues.  He shot her IN THE FACE.  I haven't heard anything about the father other than he was cooperating with the investigation.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: CalvinH on December 14, 2012, 08:24:16 PM
It's brutal here in CT......say all you want about the kid,how he was raised,gun control....


....nothing changes the facts that 20 sets of parents lost their kids today.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 08:24:31 PM
I heard all of the guns were registered to the mother.  He lived with her.  Clearly he had some major mother issues.  He shot her IN THE FACE.  I haven't heard anything about the father other than he was cooperating with the investigation.

Maybe he was aiming for her gut and he's just a really bad shot?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 08:25:51 PM
The population of Japan is 126,475,664 people.

ChartIn Japan, annual firearm homicides total

2008: 119
2002: 4712
2001: 56
1997: 3413
1996: 36
1995: 42
CompareRate of Gun Homicide per 100,000 People
ChartIn Japan, the annual rate of firearm homicide per 100,000 population is

2008: 0.09
2002: 0.0412
2001: 0.04
1997: 0.0313
1996: 0.03
1995: 0.03
1994: 0.0214

1. Japan is not America nor does it have the land mass.  It is a collection of tiny islands that has many police officers per square mile.  This is not the case in the United States as I have noted earlier.

2. Japan also has a monoculture and people literally live on top of each other.  The United States is NOTHING like this.  Again, they have enough officers per square mile to cover the entire population as they live on top of each other.

3. You can`t compare the two countries at all, it makes no sense to do so.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 08:28:30 PM
I heard all of the guns were registered to the mother.  He lived with her.  Clearly he had some major mother issues.  He shot her IN THE FACE.  I haven't heard anything about the father other than he was cooperating with the investigation.
Peter Lanza is a vice president and tax specialist at GE Energy Financial Services, is remarried and lives in Stamford.  He also is registered a Republican and has a position in his church apparently.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 08:28:54 PM
I meant doing nothing as far as restricting firearms.

They should step up security at schools by hiring guards, improving locks, methods of entry etc...

Someone did let this guy in.  From what I understand, he had to be buzzed in and someone did just that.  Buzzed him right in.  That is a failure.
why do you suddenly pretend to care anyways, i thought " kids were disgusting "  ::)

What a confused weirdo.


It's brutal here in CT......say all you want about the kid,how he was raised,gun control....


....nothing changes the facts that 20 sets of parents lost their kids today.
Well, their losses wont be in vain as something will be done so it never happens again. Mankind as a whole -well, north america- will benefit from this tragedy.
Now it's really important authorities reveal everything that led to creating such a monster in details. You ll see that he was left with his mother who was probably depressed/suicidal while his father rejected him / prefered older brother... older brother saying his young brother was "a nutcase" is a dead give away that the "family" was just completely shattered.
These scenariis are vastly prevalent in nowadays occidental atheist societies full of dysfunctionnal families, so it's certainly not going to be the first nor the last time it happens. In fact, it happens everyday but most teens kill themselves without going on a rampage; the aggravating factor here was that his mother let him access her weapons which obviously werent secured enough, she also probably made him as depressed as herself leading him to a break down as kids that age arent supposed to support their parents psychological problems.
Growing atheism is why suicide rates are increasing both in north america and europe among teens AND adults. And to think there's an economic depression that's coming.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 14, 2012, 08:29:29 PM
Wrong again , basic house hold products which are widely available in any country can be used easily to create a bomb , you can't argue to the contrary

and again oversimplification , and not accurate. You put almost no thought into your childish post.
How easy is it too pick up a gun and shoot people, learning how to make an EFFECTIVE bomb from household products is difficult, something that takes planning and SKILL.  Picking up a GUN and firing it on the other hand is the easiest thing in the world to do.  Calling people childish because you don't agree with their opinion is the very reason people like you shouldn't own guns, you can attempt to denigrate others in you advocacy of gun ownership, but all it does is further prove why citizens shouldn't have access to such weapons, when people argue in such an offensive way and with a poor attitude, you know their is something wrong with them and their argument.  If the government was saying you can no longer have access to food, water or medicine, I would understand the passion, but to get so reactionary over GUNS, an item that serves NO PURPOSE for the average citizen, it really is kind of crazy.  Then again, I grew up in a culture were people DONT own GUNS, they don't feel deprived, they never talk about GUNS, they NEVER talk about regular MASSACRES happening in SCHOOLS, they NEVER lobby Government to OWN GUNS.  Guns in general are a NON TOPIC, Nobody cares about them, so it does seem ODD that some people would become RAVING LUNATICS if you suggested they shouldn't OWN GUNS. 

The people who are passionate about this issue are overly emotional, and not in a healthy way, they are often juvenile and selfish in their outlook, and other peoples welfare is the last thing they care about.  It is possibly hard for you to see the forest through the trees as you have been raised in the middle of an extreme gun culture, but from someone who grew up in a place were people couldn't care less about guns, were schools don't need security and metal detectors and body searches etc. a place were their IS NO SUCH thing as mass killings in school-yards, it is incredibly ODD to deal with people who somehow IGNORE the reality of their CULTURE and continually promote a way of life that is unnecessary and kills many people.  I think the question people need to ask themselves is WHY DO I WANT A GUN! is it because other people own guns? is it because you have some perverse sense of ENTITLEMENT?, or is it you are deeply INSECURE? whatever the reasons are, they are probably NOT HEALTHY!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 14, 2012, 08:30:54 PM
Newtown, CT

Newworld (C)onspiracy (T)heory


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Princess L on December 14, 2012, 08:32:10 PM
Peter Lanza is a vice president and tax specialist at GE Energy Financial Services, is remarried and lives in Stamford.  He also is registered a Republican and has a position in his church apparently.

And this is relevant how?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 08:32:17 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/connecticut-shooting-adam-lanza-2012-12

Another freak


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 08:33:18 PM
Peter Lanza is a vice president and tax specialist at GE Energy Financial Services, is remarried and lives in Stamford.  He also is registered a Republican and has a position in his church apparently.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Polish Power on December 14, 2012, 08:35:43 PM
1. Japan is not America nor does it have the land mass.  It is a collection of tiny islands that has many police officers per square mile.  This is not the case in the United States as I have noted earlier.

2. Japan also has a monoculture and people literally live on top of each other.  The United States is NOTHING like this.  Again, they have enough officers per square mile to cover the entire population as they live on top of each other.

3. You can`t compare the two countries at all, it makes no sense to do so.

We're talking gun control. The countries that have it have less deaths. Has nothing to do with land mass or living space. If that's the case more people would go nuts in Japan living in those conditions. Reason to much inbreeding in the U.S


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 08:35:53 PM
why do you suddenly pretend to care aanyways, i thought " kids were disgusting "  ::)

What a weirdo.

Well, their losses wont be in vain as something will be done so it never happens again. Mankind as a whole -well, north america- will benefit from this tragedy.
 Not sure i would still want to live if my kid was killed tho.
Now it's really important authorities reveal everything that led to creating such a monster in details. You ll see that he was left with his mother who was probably depressed/suicidal while his father rejected him / prefered older brother... older brother saying his young brother was "a nutcase" is a dead give away that the "family" was just completely shattered.

I have no interest in making children a part of my life, but that does not mean I do not care about them or wish to see any harm come to them or their parents.

I believe even you have a right to exist and should be protected from any harm and if I was ever in the position to save your life if I could, I would do so.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 08:37:17 PM
And this is relevant how?
I was just providing information.  You stated that you knew nothing about the father whereas I did.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 08:42:02 PM
We're talking gun control. The countries that have it have less deaths. Has nothing to do with land mass or living space. If that's the case more people would go nuts in Japan living in those conditions. Reason to much inbreeding in the U.S
As I stated before, in Japan and in large American cities, the police are available at all times with a rapid response.  The United States is mostly a rural country as far as number of cities and towns go.  The police response could be 30 minutes an hour or more, if they even have a Sheriff or neighboring officer available to take the call.

If someone is breaking in your house and the fastest time that police officer could get there would be 45 minutes, what are you supposed to do?  Die?  Jeet Kun Do?  Run? 

Fuck that, I will shoot.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: OTHstrong on December 14, 2012, 08:43:12 PM
America is not even in the top 20 of the world`s `murder capitals``, many countries have way more murders per ca-pita and many have gun control.

I live in Canada it is hard to get a gun permit down here for even a rifle and nearly impossible for a hand gun unless your field requires it, we have the strictest gun laws and for a while they were handing out 5 years in jail if you got caught with a gun and an additional year per bullet. Now every single murder that happened here with a gun (nearly 100 per year) happened by people that obtained guns in the black market so gun control means absolutely nothing.

I can get all kinds of guns on the black market including AK`s, it is not hard, anyone can. Gun control or not if someone wants to kill someone they will and guns are at every corner anywhere anyway.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2012, 08:43:42 PM
As I stated before, in Japan and in large American cities, the police are available at all times with a rapid response.  The United States is mostly a rural country as far as number of cities and towns go.  The police response could be 30 minutes an hour or more, if they even have a Sheriff or neighboring officer available to take the call.

If someone is breaking in your house and the fastest time that police officer could get there would be 45 minutes, what are you supposed to do?  Die?  Jeet Kun Do?  Run? 

Fuck that, I will shoot.

Im proud of you for your progression 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 08:47:31 PM
Im proud of you for your progression 
No progression.  This was always my stance on the matter.  The facts are the facts.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 14, 2012, 08:51:46 PM
And this is relevant how?

It's relevant because as usual Uberman is tastelessly trying to shoehorn his idiotic agenda where it doesn't fit. his parents were loser  atheists liberals..blah blah blah...um , no... his parents were affluent, religious republicans that had the kid in counseling.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Twaddle on December 14, 2012, 08:52:52 PM
No progression.  This was always my stance on the matter.  The facts are the facts.

I thought you used to preach that you were anti violent, and if someone showed up at your door, you would just call the cops?  What's with the sudden change of heart?  Flip flopping?   ???


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 08:54:42 PM
It's relevant because as usual Uberman is tastelessly trying to shoehorn his idiotic agenda where it doesn't fit. his parents were loser  atheists liberals..blah blah blah...um , no... his parents were affluent, religious republicans that had the kid in counseling.
Lol..his parents were separated and his father started a new family with someone else leaving younger son with a depressed mother... Rings a bell genius? Do you even think before you write/talk.
With two egocentrical narcisstic fake "parents" like you and your new sex toy, both your daughter and hers are clearely going to end fucked up one way or another.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 08:56:04 PM
I thought you used to preach that you were anti violent, and if someone showed up at your door, you would just call the cops?  What's with the sudden change of heart?  Flip flopping?   ???
true anus has returned his coat ten times an hour on here lately on most topics, probably still trying to find himself.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 14, 2012, 08:57:25 PM
I thought you used to preach that you were anti violent, and if someone showed up at your door, you would just call the cops?  What's with the sudden change of heart?  Flip flopping?   ???
I am certainly anti-violence which is why you need the utmost protection to prevent or stop it whether it be calling the cops or using your firearm.

I would never hesitate to defend myself AND call the cops.  No flipping or flopping here at all or any change of heart.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 14, 2012, 08:58:28 PM
Lol..his parents were separated and his father started a new family with someone else leaving younger son with a depressed mother... Rings a bell genius? Do you even think before you write/talk.
With two egocentrical narcisstic fake "parents" like you and your new sex toy, both your daughter and hers are clearely going to end fucked up one way or another.  

says the guy who gets "sucked dry/ fucked 4 times a week" LOLOLOL.  do you even think when you write/talk?

and your father fucked you in the ass and gave you aids because he was addicted to heroin, and you have infected your make believe wife and children.

See, it's easy to make shit up moron  ;)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Twaddle on December 14, 2012, 09:01:22 PM
says the guy who gets "sucked dry/ fucked 4 times a week" LOLOLOL.  do you even think when you write/talk?

and your father fucked you in the ass and gave you aids because he was addicted to heroin, and you have infected your make believe wife and children.

See, it's easy to make shit up moron  ;)
(http://www.vibe.com/sites/vibe.com/files/styles/main_image/public/article_images/vibe-lil-wayne-same-damn-tune.jpeg)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 14, 2012, 09:04:10 PM
says the guy who gets "sucked dry/ fucked 4 times a week" LOLOLOL.  do you even think when you write/talk?

and your father fucked you in the ass and gave you aids because he was addicted to heroin, and you have infected your make believe wife and children.

See, it's easy to make shit up moron  ;)
except i didnt make up shit about you as most know it cause what i said is what you told us/bragged about genius. And sorry if you still dont have a satisfying sexual life with your new "girlfriend" , oh brother, what a serial loser.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 14, 2012, 09:10:27 PM
except i didnt make up shit about you as most know it cause what i said is what you told us/bragged about genius. And sorry if you still dont have a satisfying sexual life with your new "girlfriend" , oh brother, what a serial loser.  

says the guy who works in a factory cleaning toilets, hahahahahaaaaaa

you know about  one/tenth of the story and make  false, retarded assumptions about the rest you dipshit, pretty much what you do in every post, you are a giant, aids infected asshole

and i'm done with you ..this thread ain't about what an asshole you are..we have plenty of other threads about that you delusional twat.  ;)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: che on December 14, 2012, 09:17:41 PM
Ban guns ,arm everyone, blah , blah .............etc  nothing is going to work
Random acts of senseless violence like this one are going to happen no matter what  and there's nothing we (or the government ) can do to stop it .


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 09:19:53 PM
Ban guns ,arm everyone, blah , blah .............etc  nothing is going to work
Random acts of senseless violence like this one are going to happen no matter what  and there's nothing we (or the government ) can do to stop it .

Hah!  You only have 10,023 post. I have 10,868 post.

That proves my point.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: che on December 14, 2012, 09:22:30 PM
Hah!  You only have 10,023 post. I have 10,868 post.

That proves my point.  
I agree


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 14, 2012, 09:27:00 PM
On average, guns did not protect those who possessed them from being shot in an assault, suggests that victims in possession of firearms is 4.5 times more likely to be shot and 4.2 times more likely to be killed than those who were unarmed.  In other words, during a crime, you are more likely to be killed when carrying a gun than if you were not carrying.  carrying a weapon makes you more vulnerable, NOT LESS!

Investigating the Link Between Gun Possession and Gun Assault - 2009 Study
http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.2008.143099 (http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.2008.143099)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on December 14, 2012, 09:44:57 PM
Ban guns ,arm everyone, blah , blah .............etc  nothing is going to work
Random acts of senseless violence like this one are going to happen no matter what  and there's nothing we (or the government ) can do to stop it .

He was a total social outcast which probably resulted in him going on a rampage. Not random at all.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Quickerblade on December 14, 2012, 09:48:04 PM
hold on, did this loser kill everyone then post on FACEBOOK??


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 14, 2012, 09:57:17 PM
hold on, did this loser kill everyone then post on FACEBOOK??

Internets is serious bizniz


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: che on December 14, 2012, 10:04:42 PM
He was a total social outcast which probably resulted in him going on a rampage. Not random at all.

 It doesn't matter about his mental state/illness ,it's still a random act of violence.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on December 14, 2012, 10:15:42 PM
It doesn't matter about his mental state/illness ,it's still a random act of violence.

I don't see it that way. A criminal robs a bank, a specific bank. Why that bank when there are thousands of banks? It just happened to be that bank and it's not important, what is important is why.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2012, 10:19:09 PM
I don't see it that way. A criminal robs a bank, a specific bank. Why that bank when there are thousands of banks? It just happened to be that bank and it's not important, what is important is why.

I'm confused.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 14, 2012, 10:19:39 PM
John Malkovich.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: che on December 14, 2012, 10:23:22 PM
I don't see it that way. A criminal robs a bank, a specific bank. Why that bank when there are thousands of banks? It just happened to be that bank and it's not important, what is important is why.

Huh ???


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on December 14, 2012, 10:26:57 PM
Huh ???

It was a metaphor or shit like that.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Rudee on December 14, 2012, 10:59:42 PM
Total failure. that's fucked up. a Metal detector , safety doors and an armed guard will fix that real quick.  like an airlock. can't get in unless you are good to go

If a person wants to get in bad enough they will simply conceal their weapon, and whip it out and shoot the armed guard, shoot their way inside and get to the kids.  Where there's a will, there's a way.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: cephissus on December 14, 2012, 11:25:13 PM
che bringing wisdom to this thread


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 14, 2012, 11:30:13 PM
Guns don't kill people; people kill people.
Guns are just a tool that people use to achieve their goals.

As someone else pointed out, gun control in this country will do nothing but take guns out of the innocents hands, as there are so many firearms in circulation, that the only people that would hand them over would be the law abiding citizens, you know, the ones not committing murder.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Benny B on December 14, 2012, 11:36:01 PM
Ban guns ,arm everyone, blah , blah .............etc  nothing is going to work
Random acts of senseless violence like this one are going to happen no matter what  and there's nothing we (or the government ) can do to stop it .

idiot  ::)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Benny B on December 14, 2012, 11:36:58 PM
It doesn't matter about his mental state/illness ,it's still a random act of violence.
...and you are still an idiot


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 14, 2012, 11:37:32 PM
(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/537505_518344698199071_1432841063_n.jpg)

Yes, but we U.S. citizens have "the right to bear arms" including semi-automatic assault weapons. Some people believe this is a right worth protecting regardless of how many innocent children and people die as a result of it.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Benny B on December 14, 2012, 11:39:21 PM
che bringing wisdom lunacy to this thread
word


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: cephissus on December 14, 2012, 11:39:37 PM
10,728... that still leaves about 300 million of us

:D


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Benny B on December 14, 2012, 11:39:53 PM
Guns don't kill people; people kill people.
Guns are just a tool that people use to achieve their goals.

As someone else pointed out, gun control in this country will do nothing but take guns out of the innocents hands, as there are so many firearms in circulation, that the only people that would hand them over would be the law abiding citizens, you know, the ones not committing murder.
dumber than dirt


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 14, 2012, 11:57:23 PM
10,728... that still leaves about 300 million of us

:D

What are you suggesting? Are you proposing we put more guns in the hands of wackos who kill innocent people and children to control population growth?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Parker on December 15, 2012, 12:06:55 AM
If a person wants to get in bad enough they will simply conceal their weapon, and whip it out and shoot the armed guard, shoot their way inside and get to the kids.  Where there's a will, there's a way.
Metal detectors. When I was student teaching in Baltimore, the school had it's own campus police, and everybody had ID, including me. And everybody went thru the metal detectors. They probably have the wands now. If you wanted to visit, you had to get permission and a pass, and of course you went thru the metal detector.

Now, did this stop things from happening outside the school? No, it didn't. On my first day of observation, there was a campus police officer being loaded into an ambulance.

Groink is right, most inner city schools have more security than suburban schools.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: RustyTrenbolona on December 15, 2012, 12:12:07 AM
One day historians will write books on this thread.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 15, 2012, 12:19:06 AM
Guns don't kill people; people kill people.
Guns are just a tool that people use to achieve their goals.

As someone else pointed out, gun control in this country will do nothing but take guns out of the innocents hands, as there are so many firearms in circulation, that the only people that would hand them over would be the law abiding citizens, you know, the ones not committing murder.
When people say 'Guns don't kill people', it sounds like the type of argument a retard would make.  If weapons are not a problem, why does America worry about it's enemies developing weapons of mass destruction, nuclear weapons and long range missiles.  Couldn't IRAN just say, NUKES don't kill people.  It's absolutely absurd to suggest that a culture with a fetish for weapons that can kill many people in a short period of time is safer than a culture that doesn't worship deadly weapons and doesn't cultivate such a lifestyle.  Owning a GUN makes you LESS Safe, not more so!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: AbrahamG on December 15, 2012, 12:19:30 AM
dumber than dirt shit

truth


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 15, 2012, 12:24:32 AM
When people say 'Guns don't kill people', it sounds like the type of argument a retard would make.  If weapons are not a problem, why does America worry about it's enemies developing weapons of mass destruction, nuclear weapons and long range missiles.  Couldn't IRAN just say, NUKES don't kill people.  It's absolutely absurd to suggest that a culture with a fetish for weapons that can kill many people in a short period of time is safer than a culture that doesn't worship deadly weapons and doesn't cultivate such a lifestyle.  Owning a GUN makes you LESS Safe, not more so!

Agreed, last time i checked, That's exactly what guns do, kill things

I guess drills don't drill holes either, LOL


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 15, 2012, 12:44:16 AM
This is reality people , want your children protected at school? laws ain't gonna do it

Elementary school class in Israel.
Here in Australia, their is ZERO security in Schools, no weapons checks, no metal detectors, no body searches, no mass killings, ZERO fear of a child being gunned down at school.  Australians find Americans bizarre how they let their school systems become an incredibly dangerous place for a child to go to.  When you have decades and decades of continual mass shootings at schools and absolutely nothing changes with the legislature, you have serious issues, with both the people and the politicians.  To get to a point were mass shootings of school children are to be expected and are a common occurrence, something has gone devastatingly wrong with your communities and your culture.  It is sad that you have become conditioned and de-sensitised to this violence that you actually think it is REALITY! It could only BECOME a reality if the CULTURE and the PEOPLE allowed it too.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2012, 12:48:24 AM
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I know what I am about to write is controversial. What happened today is more than tragic and I know everyone agrees. I am privileged to work in the public schools as a school psychologist which I have been assigned as for over ten years. I have seen the effects of past school shootings, the 9/11 generation of kids growing up, the war in the middle east, etc. What I know for certain is the amount of anxiety related symptoms I have seen rise over the past five years particularly is tremendous. I continue to be in meetings where parents buy their children violent video games as a reward (btw, these games allow children to practice killing ie halo). Many parents consider these harmless and do not monitor their kids exposure.  Parents, as is their right, continue to purchase weapons/ammunition, which they do not keep locked up. Why is this happening? Why are guns, meant to kill humans not animals, sold publicly? Why, despite YEARS of public education, are these guns not under lock and key? Why, or how, do we adults consider it a fun game/entertainment to allow our children to practice killing people virtually, even when research advises otherwise?

Posted on FaceBook today by an acquaintance of mine.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Parker on December 15, 2012, 01:32:34 AM
Posted on FaceBook today by an acquaintance of mine.
People never pay close attention...


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 15, 2012, 02:47:01 AM
You cant compare Japan and the USA shear Land mass and population dont compare so of course crime is going to be greater in the USA.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 03:08:14 AM
Here in Australia, their is ZERO security in Schools, no weapons checks, no metal detectors, no body searches, no mass killings, ZERO fear of a child being gunned down at school.  Australians find Americans bizarre how they let their school systems become an incredibly dangerous place for a child to go to.  When you have decades and decades of continual mass shootings at schools and absolutely nothing changes with the legislature, you have serious issues, with both the people and the politicians.  To get to a point were mass shootings of school children are to be expected and are a common occurrence, something has gone devastatingly wrong with your communities and your culture.  It is sad that you have become conditioned and de-sensitised to this violence that you actually think it is REALITY! It could only BECOME a reality if the CULTURE and the PEOPLE allowed it too.

Again Australia is NOT the U.S. stop thinking what works in your country would work in this one. Americans are violent and guns are means to that end , get rid of guns that means changes , it's the mentality of violence that needs to change , along with other factors.

300 millions gun in the U.S you think you can confiscate them all? you think banning them prevents people from getting them? coke , meth , heroin , etc are all banned  yet people can still get them , see a pattern? ban guns what does that mean?

Stop acting like your country is the solution and you don't know what you're talking about , you don't. Your responses aren't very well thought out and are based on ignorance and sound bites and what works in your country

New laws wouldn't have prevented this
Banning guns wouldn't have prevented this
Being like your country wouldn't have prevented this



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 03:14:06 AM
you want to live like that?

Take a wild guess , of course not but desperate times call for desperate measures , what's the alternative? letting these people stroll in and have at it? nothing doing anything to protect child isn't the solution

all schools in the U.S. are gun-free zones , this didn't seem to matter to him , they thought they were doing something to protect the children , and they really weren't

I would hand over every gun I own if it meant this wouldn't ever happen again , but I'm smart enough to know that would change absolutely nothing.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 03:16:42 AM
Agreed, last time i checked, That's exactly what guns do, kill things

I guess drills don't drill holes either, LOL

Really? perhaps all my guns didn't get the memo , I've owned guns since 1998 they never killed anyone.

Maybe they're waiting?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Conker on December 15, 2012, 03:24:58 AM
Some of these comments are ridiculous. The reason you have so many more incidents like this in the US than anywhere else in the developed world, has nothing to with Americans being more violent or having more lunatics per capita or anything else. Its simply to do with the number of guns you have in circulation, nothing else.

I bet this kid has no violence in his history , probably a nerdy kid that never had a fight in his life. A kid with obvious mental issues like this, in Europe would simply not be able to get his hands on a gun or would find it very, very difficult. This kid just took his mum's one...That is the only difference.

The only way you will ever greatly reduce these incidents happening is when you greatly reduce the number of guns in your society.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: musclecenter on December 15, 2012, 03:41:03 AM
RIP
Damn!
so many fucking crazy american!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Parker on December 15, 2012, 03:49:20 AM
historically, usa and australia are compareable, in particular the white population, both were sent to these places by force(kinda), both almost wiped out the original inhabitants.

both developed into big econimcal powers.

but in australia, this mass shootings dont happen.

i can see the argument of the perpertrators choosing schools as targets in the us, bc theyre gun free zones, though, thats a good point.
The aboringals and the N A's are two diff peoples, and the Euros who settled America for the most part rolled out on their own, and then their descendants started thinking for themselves, and created their own version of English, withou the accent, unlike Aussies. the NA landscape and enviroment is much harsher, which is a breeding ground for a certain mentality.
As ND said, we Americans are violent peoples, violence and "freedom" run thru our veins. You takaway our rights, we get violent, and we feel that "violence" is our right (sadly).


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 15, 2012, 04:06:11 AM
The thing people aren't realising that the EASE of being able to kill someone when emotionally aroused.  If it was difficult to access weapons such as guns or assault rifles, their is TIME put between the EMOTIONAL TRIGGER and a response.  On maybe two occasions I have felt so angry, so fired up, that maybe, just maybe, if I knew a gun was handy, I may have used it.  But that feeling was short lived and soon replaced by my normal reasonable emotional state.  Every kid in America these days realises that if they want they can get a gun and go crazy, it is this EASE of access that is the problem, people do things when highly emotionally aroused that they would NEVER do when feeling calm, relaxed and in control, why make it easier for them to harm a great deal of other people for the sake of individuals owning a weapon for no reason.  If you reason for owning a gun for protection, well the facts show that you are more likely to be killed when armed if you ARE A VICTIM  of a crime.  Armed people are more vulnerable, NOT LESS.

The gun nuts just wont face it, they have an obsession with dangerous weapons, they are the type of people who RESENT deeply being told what to do, even if it means they and their communities will be better off.  Generally, a defiant personality type, anybody would think that the GUN NUTS would die and immediate painful death if they weren't able to own a gun, it's pretty pathetic that America has gotten to the point where they won't even sacrifice selfish wants and desires to make their communities safer and prevent children from being killed.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 04:12:42 AM
How easy is it too pick up a gun and shoot people, learning how to make an EFFECTIVE bomb from household products is difficult, something that takes planning and SKILL.  Picking up a GUN and firing it on the other hand is the easiest thing in the world to do.  Calling people childish because you don't agree with their opinion is the very reason people like you shouldn't own guns, you can attempt to denigrate others in you advocacy of gun ownership, but all it does is further prove why citizens shouldn't have access to such weapons, when people argue in such an offensive way and with a poor attitude, you know their is something wrong with them and their argument.  If the government was saying you can no longer have access to food, water or medicine, I would understand the passion, but to get so reactionary over GUNS, an item that serves NO PURPOSE for the average citizen, it really is kind of crazy.  Then again, I grew up in a culture were people DONT own GUNS, they don't feel deprived, they never talk about GUNS, they NEVER talk about regular MASSACRES happening in SCHOOLS, they NEVER lobby Government to OWN GUNS.  Guns in general are a NON TOPIC, Nobody cares about them, so it does seem ODD that some people would become RAVING LUNATICS if you suggested they shouldn't OWN GUNS. 

The people who are passionate about this issue are overly emotional, and not in a healthy way, they are often juvenile and selfish in their outlook, and other peoples welfare is the last thing they care about.  It is possibly hard for you to see the forest through the trees as you have been raised in the middle of an extreme gun culture, but from someone who grew up in a place were people couldn't care less about guns, were schools don't need security and metal detectors and body searches etc. a place were their IS NO SUCH thing as mass killings in school-yards, it is incredibly ODD to deal with people who somehow IGNORE the reality of their CULTURE and continually promote a way of life that is unnecessary and kills many people.  I think the question people need to ask themselves is WHY DO I WANT A GUN! is it because other people own guns? is it because you have some perverse sense of ENTITLEMENT?, or is it you are deeply INSECURE? whatever the reasons are, they are probably NOT HEALTHY!

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How easy is it too pick up a gun and shoot people, learning how to make an EFFECTIVE bomb from household products is difficult, something that takes planning and SKILL.

Spoken like a person who has never fired a gun , it takes skill to accurately fire a gun you wouldn't know this because you never have. It also takes skill and planning to carry out a plot to kill 26 people. You ban guns the means to kill 26 people changes and I explained exactly why & how

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  Picking up a GUN and firing it on the other hand is the easiest thing in the world to do

Again spoken like a person who never fired a gun in his life , don't talk on subjects you have no experience with.

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Calling people childish because you don't agree with their opinion is the very reason people like you shouldn't own guns, you can attempt to denigrate others in you advocacy of gun ownership, but all it does is further prove why citizens shouldn't have access to such weapons, when people argue in such an offensive way and with a poor attitude, you know their is something wrong with them and their argument.

First of all I NEVER said you were childish because you didn't agree with my opinion. You post is childish because it's comes from ignorance and emotion and it's not well thought out. And since when is calling someone's post childish , offensive?  ::)

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If the government was saying you can no longer have access to food, water or medicine, I would understand the passion, but to get so reactionary over GUNS, an item that serves NO PURPOSE for the average citizen, it really is kind of crazy

Me calling you childish is offensive , yet you're calling me ' crazy ' isn't , hypocrite. I'm not so ' reactionary over guns ' that's you projecting. I'm smart enough to know new , laws , and banning them doesn't solve them problem. And I'm also smart enough to know what works in your country doesn't have anything to do with mine.

Firearms is part & parcel of The United States of America , and their ownership is protected under the Constitution , and has been since the beginning of this country. To claim they have " NO PURPOSE for the average citizen " is again , ignorant because you're talking on a subject you have NO experience with , and it's childish because you're making statements without putting any though into them

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Then again, I grew up in a culture were people DONT own GUNS, they don't feel deprived, they never talk about GUNS, they NEVER talk about regular MASSACRES happening in SCHOOLS, they NEVER lobby Government to OWN GUNS.  Guns in general are a NON TOPIC, Nobody cares about them, so it does seem ODD that some people would become RAVING LUNATICS if you suggested they shouldn't OWN GUNS. 

Well thanks for admitting you don't know what you're talking about. Australia isn't the U.S . it's childish of you to think your solution is our solution and you have all the answers to a very complex question ( ignorance ) and stop projecting your view of gun owners as " RAVING LUNATICS " and it's not because someone suggests we shouldn't own guns ( more ignorance ) it has more to do with punishing the wrong people for someone else's actions , and infringing on rights of law-abiding citizens

We already learned banning things doesn't mean you can't get them and if you can do mass destruction without them , so prohibiting them from people who follow laws accomplishes nothing. Your idea of ' solutions ' isn't well thought out or accurate.

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The people who are passionate about this issue are overly emotional, and not in a healthy way, they are often juvenile and selfish in their outlook, and other peoples welfare is the last thing they care about.

  Calling people childish because you don't agree with their opinion is the very reason people like you shouldn't own guns, you can attempt to denigrate others in you advocacy of gun ownership, but all it does is further prove why citizens shouldn't have access to such weapons, when people argue in such an offensive way and with a poor attitude, you know their is something wrong with them and their argument.

Your statement hypocrite.

the people who are passionate about this are sick & tired of getting blamed for the actions of lunatics and tried of getting their constitutional rights trampled on


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It is possibly hard for you to see the forest through the trees as you have been raised in the middle of an extreme gun culture, but from someone who grew up in a place were people couldn't care less about guns, were schools don't need security and metal detectors and body searches etc. a place were their IS NO SUCH thing as mass killings in school-yards, it is incredibly ODD to deal with people who somehow IGNORE the reality of their CULTURE and continually promote a way of life that is unnecessary and kills many people.

Do you want to continually point out how we should be like you? and you have the solution? Australia is NOT American , you solution doesn't solve anything it has nothing to do with us , stop projecting your ignorant point of view on us , America has ALWAYS been violent from the time the Pilgrims came here until now , America born in blood and knee deep it in and some ignorant kid from Australia has it all figured out  ::)


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I think the question people need to ask themselves is WHY DO I WANT A GUN! is it because other people own guns? is it because you have some perverse sense of ENTITLEMENT?, or is it you are deeply INSECURE? whatever the reasons are, they are probably NOT HEALTHY!

You project A LOT , I know exactly why I want guns instead of drawing your own conclusion why don't you ask? ( ignorance again ) I want guns because , America is a violent place and I want to protect myself & my family , I'm an enthusiast , and I'm exercising my Constitutional right. Now you have your answer and if that's not good enough for you I don't care because I owe no explanation to some kid from Australia who sits behind his PC thinking he has it all figured out

Guns are like abortions , you don't want one , don't get one. But don't make the mistake of telling me I can't not in this country at least. My guns are a non-issue I don't think of them and most of the time they sit around collecting dust , I get out to the range shoot some paper , bring them back home clean up and lock them up.

You want anyone who owns a gun to be a stark raving lunatic who is ready to blow up at the world , and it's not the reality regardless of what the mass media tells you. You have been programmed to see gun owners as one thing and have NO experience with them or the Americans you lament against. You're an ignorant kid who thinks you know what's best for Americans , and America you have a lot to learn kid.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 15, 2012, 04:51:36 AM
Spoken like a person who has never fired a gun , it takes skill to accurately fire a gun you wouldn't know this because you never have. It also takes skill and planning to carry out a plot to kill 26 people. You ban guns the means to kill 26 people changes and I explained exactly why & how

Again spoken like a person who never fired a gun in his life , don't talk on subjects you have no experience with.

First of all I NEVER said you were childish because you didn't agree with my opinion. You post is childish because it's comes from ignorance and emotion and it's not well thought out. And since when is calling someone's post childish , offensive?  ::)

Me calling you childish is offensive , yet you're calling me ' crazy ' isn't , hypocrite. I'm not so ' reactionary over guns ' that's you projecting. I'm smart enough to know new , laws , and banning them doesn't solve them problem. And I'm also smart enough to know what works in your country doesn't have anything to do with mine.

Firearms is part & parcel of The United States of America , and their ownership is protected under the Constitution , and has been since the beginning of this country. To claim they have " NO PURPOSE for the average citizen " is again , ignorant because you're talking on a subject you have NO experience with , and it's childish because you're making statements without putting any though into them

Well thanks for admitting you don't know what you're talking about. Australia isn't the U.S . it's childish of you to think your solution is our solution and you have all the answers to a very complex question ( ignorance ) and stop projecting your view of gun owners as " RAVING LUNATICS " and it's not because someone suggests we shouldn't own guns ( more ignorance ) it has more to do with punishing the wrong people for someone else's actions , and infringing on rights of law-abiding citizens

We already learned banning things doesn't mean you can't get them and if you can do mass destruction without them , so prohibiting them from people who follow laws accomplishes nothing. Your idea of ' solutions ' isn't well thought out or accurate.

 Calling people childish because you don't agree with their opinion is the very reason people like you shouldn't own guns, you can attempt to denigrate others in you advocacy of gun ownership, but all it does is further prove why citizens shouldn't have access to such weapons, when people argue in such an offensive way and with a poor attitude, you know their is something wrong with them and their argument.

Your statement hypocrite.

the people who are passionate about this are sick & tired of getting blamed for the actions of lunatics and tried of getting their constitutional rights trampled on


Do you want to continually point out how we should be like you? and you have the solution? Australia is NOT American , you solution doesn't solve anything it has nothing to do with us , stop projecting your ignorant point of view on us , America has ALWAYS been violent from the time the Pilgrims came here until now , America born in blood and knee deep it in and some ignorant kid from Australia has it all figured out  ::)


You project A LOT , I know exactly why I want guns instead of drawing your own conclusion why don't you ask? ( ignorance again ) I want guns because , America is a violent place and I want to protect myself & my family , I'm an enthusiast , and I'm exercising my Constitutional right. Now you have your answer and if that's not good enough for you I don't care because I owe no explanation to some kid from Australia who sits behind his PC thinking he has it all figured out

Guns are like abortions , you don't want one , don't get one. But don't make the mistake of telling me I can't not in this country at least. My guns are a non-issue I don't think of them and most of the time they sit around collecting dust , I get out to the range shoot some paper , bring them back home clean up and lock them up.

You want anyone who owns a gun to be a stark raving lunatic who is ready to blow up at the world , and it's not the reality regardless of what the mass media tells you. You have been programmed to see gun owners as one thing and have NO experience with them or the Americans you lament against. You're an ignorant kid who thinks you know what's best for Americans , and America you have a lot to learn kid.

It takes no SKILL to fire a gun at close range and kill someone, you could teach a monkey too do it, here in Australia, Martin Bryant shot and killed 35 people and wounded 23 more, he was a complete Idiot, he had an IQ of 66, the equivalent of an 11 year old, was an amateur shooter with virtually no shooting experience whatsoever and was considered a very poor marksman, yet he still managed to kill 35 people.  Stop pretending like their is SKILL involved in walking up to somebody and killing them at close range with a GUN.  Also, Calling a 40 year old man a KID is kind of SAD and an insight into your mindset, and yes, you would have to be kind of CRAZY to insist on owning a gun, even though it serves no purpose and innocent people are regularly being killed so that right is upheld, it is a CRAZY attitude.  I don't know why the GUN NUTS claim anti gun advocates are reacting from emotion when it is obvious who the EMOTIONAL ones are.  I live in a COUNTRY were people like you are considered slightly sociopathic, deranged and unstable, I am on the winning side where I live, as the way I think, is the way the majority thinks.  Also, the deaths of these children strike very little personal emotion within me, I live in another country, I don't know the children or the families and it is easy to IGNORE, but it also occurs to me, that, given the right circumstances the same problem could happen here if the GUN Nutters have their way, and ever since Legislation has become ever stricter, the GUN NUTS in this country also jump up and down the same way the Gun NUTS in your country do.  

You are right, I don't own a GUN, I DON'T want to own a GUN, I don't feel a pressing need to OWN a GUN, and I DON'T walk around feeling in DANGER because I DON'T OWN a GUN.  Gun Nutters always seem AFRAID, INSECURE and deeply traumatised in some way, the very antithesis of a CALM, PEACEFUL and KIND person, I actually feel sorry for them, to have to suffer from such overt anxiety must be such a burden, it is unfortunate that owning GUNS actually seems to make them even more uptight and DISTURBED. You admit to wanting a GUN for protection when statistics show you ARE LESS SAFE if you are targeted as a VICTIM of a crime, owning a GUN makes you more likely to be KILLED or injured, not less SO.  

If the GUN NUTTERS were like, I don't need to own a GUN, and if they are banned I will just find something else to prop up my deficient personality and find a way to deal with my anxiety, it's no BIG DEAL, then I am sure the majority of people would go, see, people who are attracted to Guns are NORMAL, no problem there, but they don't they react like spoiled children, reacting as if someone is threatening to remove their testicles when GUN Controls are suggested, it is the very reaction by GUN NUTTERS to the suggestion of GUN CONTROL that is so worrying to those who aren't obsessed with the notion of owning a GUN.  It is this obsessive attitude, the same one an infant displays when their PACIFIER is removed from their mouth, that Narcissistic RAGE and the resulting temper tantrum, you know the one, I think you might know it as THE DUMMY SPIT, the behaviour that sees the parent give the child their pacifier back to prevent the outburst.  That's what we have know, a juvenile, self centred public who are pacified by owning GUNS and threaten to SPIT THE DUMMY every-time someone threatens to take away their GUN.  So SAD really.

It is sad that you believe the things you are ENTHUSED by are more important to you than the welfare of innocent children.  If I thought any of the things I enjoyed as a Hobby were in part responsible for the unimaginable suffering of innocent children, I would gladly give them up in the blink of an eye.  But then again, I am not so obsessed by anything that I would be unable to find another hobby less likely to be implicated in the suffering of others.  It's the obsessional nature of Gun Nutters that is the most frightening.

Regulating things isn't to punish the responsible people, it's to reduce harm to those who lack the maturity or the responsibility to handle something that poses a significant risk to other people. It is an overt sign of narcissism that somebody would consider measures taken to ensure the safety and well being of a society is done to punish them personally.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 15, 2012, 05:17:55 AM
Really? perhaps all my guns didn't get the memo , I've owned guns since 1998 they never killed anyone.

Maybe they're waiting?

really, so what happens when you point one at somebody and pull the trigger....flowers come out of the barrel?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 05:33:42 AM
It takes no SKILL to fire a gun at close range and kill someone, you could teach a monkey too do it, here in Australia, Martin Bryant shot and killed 35 people and wounded 23 more, he was a complete Idiot, he had an IQ of 66, the equivalent of an 11 year old, was an amateur shooter with virtually no shooting experience whatsoever and was considered a very poor marksman, yet he still managed to kill 35 people.  Stop pretending like their is SKILL involved in walking up to somebody and killing them at close range with a GUN.  Also, Calling a 40 year old man a KID is kind of SAD and an insight into your mindset, and yes, you would have to be kind of CRAZY to insist on owning a gun, even though it serves no purpose and innocent people are regularly being killed so that right is upheld, it is a CRAZY attitude.  I don't know why the GUN NUTS claim anti gun advocates are reacting from emotion when it is obvious who the EMOTIONAL ones are.  I live in a COUNTRY were people like you are considered slightly sociopathic, deranged and unstable, I am on the winning side where I live, as the way I think, is the way the majority thinks.  Also, the deaths of these children strike very little personal emotion within me, I live in another country, I don't know the children or the families and it is easy to IGNORE, but it also occurs to me, that, given the right circumstances the same problem could happen here if the GUN Nutters have their way, and ever since Legislation has become ever stricter, the GUN NUTS in this country also jump up and down the same way the Gun NUTS in your country do.  

You are right, I don't own a GUN, I DON'T want to own a GUN, I don't feel a pressing need to OWN a GUN, and I DON'T walk around feeling in DANGER because I DON'T OWN a GUN.  Gun Nutters always seem AFRAID, INSECURE and deeply traumatised in some way, the very antithesis of a CALM, PEACEFUL and KIND person, I actually feel sorry for them, to have to suffer from such overt anxiety must be such a burden, it is unfortunate that owning GUNS actually seems to make them even more uptight and DISTURBED. You admit to wanting a GUN for protection when statistics show you ARE LESS SAFE if you are targeted as a VICTIM of a crime, owning a GUN makes you more likely to be KILLED or injured, not less SO.  

If the GUN NUTTERS were like, I don't need to own a GUN, and if they are banned I will just find something else to prop up my deficient personality and find a way to deal with my anxiety, it's no BIG DEAL, then I am sure the majority of people would go, see, people who are attracted to Guns are NORMAL, no problem there, but they don't they react like spoiled children, reacting as if someone is threatening to remove their testicles when GUN Controls are suggested, it is the very reaction by GUN NUTTERS to the suggestion of GUN CONTROL that is so worrying to those who aren't obsessed with the notion of owning a GUN.  It is this obsessive attitude, the same one an infant displays when their PACIFIER is removed from their mouth, that Narcissistic RAGE and the resulting temper tantrum, you know the one, I think you might know it as THE DUMMY SPIT, the behaviour that sees the parent give the child their pacifier back to prevent the outburst.  That's what we have know, a juvenile, self centred public who are pacified by owning GUNS and threaten to SPIT THE DUMMY every-time someone threatens to take away their GUN.  So SAD really.

It is sad that you believe the things you are ENTHUSED by are more important to you than the welfare of innocent children.  If I thought any of the things I enjoyed as a Hobby were in part responsible for the unimaginable suffering of innocent children, I would gladly give them up in the blink of an eye.  But then again, I am not so obsessed by anything that I would be unable to find another hobby less likely to be implicated in the suffering of others.  It's the obsessional nature of Gun Nutters that is the most frightening.

Regulating things isn't to punish the responsible people, it's to reduce harm to those who lack the maturity or the responsibility to handle something that poses a significant risk to other people. It is an overt sign of narcissism that somebody would consider measures taken to ensure the safety and well being of a society is done to punish them personally.

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It takes no SKILL to fire a gun at close range and kill someone, you could teach a monkey too do it, here in Australia, Martin Bryant shot and killed 35 people and wounded 23 more, he was a complete Idiot, he had an IQ of 66, the equivalent of an 11 year old, was an amateur shooter with virtually no shooting experience whatsoever and was considered a very poor marksman, yet he still managed to kill 35 people.

Now you're changing it to it takes no skill at close range , people who commit these murders have the advantage of a large group of people and the element of surprise , however you claimed it takes no skill which isn't true but my original point stands , if it wasn't guns it would be bombs or Molotov cocktails, firearms are a means to the dectructive end ban them lunatics will introduce a new means


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 Also, Calling a 40 year old man a KID is kind of SAD and an insight into your mindset, and yes, you would have to be kind of CRAZY to insist on owning a gun, even though it serves no purpose and innocent people are regularly being killed so that right is upheld, it is a CRAZY attitude.

You're 40? don't act like it  :-\ again you are flat out wrong in thinking owing a firearm serves no purpose , hunting , target shooting , personal defense , collection , firearms serve a lot of purposes. Innocent people would still be getting killed in this country if all firearms magically disappeared , it's childish to blame and inanimate object when the problem is the one wielding it

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I don't know why the GUN NUTS claim anti gun advocates are reacting from emotion when it is obvious who the EMOTIONAL ones are.  

Wrong again and why? You're only screaming about guns and gun control AFTER something like this happens , not before hand. Blaming inanimate objects for the actions of a lunatic is emotional and irrational , claiming this wouldn't happen if no guns existed is an oversimplification

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 I live in a COUNTRY were people like you are considered slightly sociopathic, deranged and unstable, I am on the winning side where I live, as the way I think, is the way the majority thinks.

Wow great response  ::) , where are you? On an American website lamenting on what's best for America. One of the dumbest arguments put forth by anyone on here and that says a lot , you really need to learn how to formulate an argument because this is pathetic.

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Also, the deaths of these children strike very little personal emotion within me, I live in another country, I don't know the children or the families and it is easy to IGNORE, but it also occurs to me, that, given the right circumstances the same problem could happen here if the GUN Nutters have their way, and ever since Legislation has become ever stricter, the GUN NUTS in this country also jump up and down the same way the Gun NUTS in your country do.  

So these kids mean nothing to you , why are you here? trolling? pushing your anti-American vitriol? like I said , don't like guns , don't get one , telling someone else that they can't have the means to protect themselves is wrong.

Keep worrying about America your fixation is just as unhealthy as the GUN NUTS you lament about


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Nomad on December 15, 2012, 05:36:34 AM
It takes no SKILL to fire a gun at close range and kill someone, you could teach a monkey too do it, here in Australia, Martin Bryant shot and killed 35 people and wounded 23 more, he was a complete Idiot, he had an IQ of 66, the equivalent of an 11 year old, was an amateur shooter with virtually no shooting experience whatsoever and was considered a very poor marksman, yet he still managed to kill 35 people.  Stop pretending like their is SKILL involved in walking up to somebody and killing them at close range with a GUN.  Also, Calling a 40 year old man a KID is kind of SAD and an insight into your mindset, and yes, you would have to be kind of CRAZY to insist on owning a gun, even though it serves no purpose and innocent people are regularly being killed so that right is upheld, it is a CRAZY attitude.  I don't know why the GUN NUTS claim anti gun advocates are reacting from emotion when it is obvious who the EMOTIONAL ones are.  I live in a COUNTRY were people like you are considered slightly sociopathic, deranged and unstable, I am on the winning side where I live, as the way I think, is the way the majority thinks.  Also, the deaths of these children strike very little personal emotion within me, I live in another country, I don't know the children or the families and it is easy to IGNORE, but it also occurs to me, that, given the right circumstances the same problem could happen here if the GUN Nutters have their way, and ever since Legislation has become ever stricter, the GUN NUTS in this country also jump up and down the same way the Gun NUTS in your country do.  

You are right, I don't own a GUN, I DON'T want to own a GUN, I don't feel a pressing need to OWN a GUN, and I DON'T walk around feeling in DANGER because I DON'T OWN a GUN.  Gun Nutters always seem AFRAID, INSECURE and deeply traumatised in some way, the very antithesis of a CALM, PEACEFUL and KIND person, I actually feel sorry for them, to have to suffer from such overt anxiety must be such a burden, it is unfortunate that owning GUNS actually seems to make them even more uptight and DISTURBED. You admit to wanting a GUN for protection when statistics show you ARE LESS SAFE if you are targeted as a VICTIM of a crime, owning a GUN makes you more likely to be KILLED or injured, not less SO.  

If the GUN NUTTERS were like, I don't need to own a GUN, and if they are banned I will just find something else to prop up my deficient personality and find a way to deal with my anxiety, it's no BIG DEAL, then I am sure the majority of people would go, see, people who are attracted to Guns are NORMAL, no problem there, but they don't they react like spoiled children, reacting as if someone is threatening to remove their testicles when GUN Controls are suggested, it is the very reaction by GUN NUTTERS to the suggestion of GUN CONTROL that is so worrying to those who aren't obsessed with the notion of owning a GUN.  It is this obsessive attitude, the same one an infant displays when their PACIFIER is removed from their mouth, that Narcissistic RAGE and the resulting temper tantrum, you know the one, I think you might know it as THE DUMMY SPIT, the behaviour that sees the parent give the child their pacifier back to prevent the outburst.  That's what we have know, a juvenile, self centred public who are pacified by owning GUNS and threaten to SPIT THE DUMMY every-time someone threatens to take away their GUN.  So SAD really.

It is sad that you believe the things you are ENTHUSED by are more important to you than the welfare of innocent children.  If I thought any of the things I enjoyed as a Hobby were in part responsible for the unimaginable suffering of innocent children, I would gladly give them up in the blink of an eye.  But then again, I am not so obsessed by anything that I would be unable to find another hobby less likely to be implicated in the suffering of others.  It's the obsessional nature of Gun Nutters that is the most frightening.

Regulating things isn't to punish the responsible people, it's to reduce harm to those who lack the maturity or the responsibility to handle something that poses a significant risk to other people. It is an overt sign of narcissism that somebody would consider measures taken to ensure the safety and well being of a society is done to punish them personally.

You should take a look at this book. Turn out there is good evidence that most humans have a built in psychological resistance to actually killing other humans. The only people who seem to lack this innate ability are either psychopaths or the mentally ill. So no, its not as easy as picking up a gun and aiming it at other people and squeezing the trigger because most sane normal people will never be able to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Killing:_The_Psychological_Cost_ of_Learning_to_Kill_in_W ar_and_Society (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Killing:_The_Psychological_Cost_of_Learning_to_Kill_in_War_and_Society)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 05:39:07 AM
really, so what happens when you point one at somebody and pull the trigger....flowers come out of the barrel?

Key word when YOU point it at somebody and pull the trigger and depending on the state of the firearm it rangers from nothing happening when I pull the trigger and a projectile existing the barrel all contingent on human desire

Again my guns never killed anyone , wanna keep blaming the object instead of the person using it?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 15, 2012, 05:43:18 AM
Key word when YOU point it at somebody and pull the trigger and depending on the state of the firearm it rangers from nothing happening when I pull the trigger and a projectile existing the barrel all contingent on human desire

Again my guns never killed anyone , wanna keep blaming the object instead of the person using it?

ok, hold your finger out and go "bang"...anything happen?

the "object" has but ONE purpose in this world, to kill. if guns don't kill people let's take them away from armies...they are just "objects".....LOLOLOL


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 05:47:59 AM
ok, hold your finger out and go "bang"...anything happen?

the "object" has but ONE purpose in this world, to kill. if guns don't kill people let's take them away from armies...they are just "objects".....LOLOLOL

Stop trying to remove the human component from the killing part. and wrong the ' object ' doesn't have ONE purpose , it has multiple ones and they are contingent of the human desire , you can choose to shoot paper , steel plates , animals , or humans , and depending on the human that's not a bad thing

Again I've owned firearms since 1998 and they never killed anyone , I wonder why. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 15, 2012, 05:59:10 AM
Stop trying to remove the human component from the killing part. and wrong the ' object ' doesn't have ONE purpose , it has multiple ones and they are contingent of the human desire , you can choose to shoot paper , steel plates , animals , or humans , and depending on the human that's not a bad thing

Again I've owned firearms since 1998 and they never killed anyone , I wonder why.  

Sure when you stop referring to guns like they are a fucking toaster.

Of course there is a human element, i never said there wasn't, but sorry i'm not buying that  guns are our warm and fuzzy friends, they are WEAPONS.... built to kill things, not shoot  paper targets, spare me


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 06:04:41 AM
Sure when you stop referring to guns like they are a fucking toaster.

Of course there is a human element, i never said there wasn't, but sorry i'm not buying that  guns are our warm and fuzzy friends, they are WEAPONS.... built to kill things, not shoot  paper targets, spare me

Guns are a tool and nothing more. And regardless of what you claim they serve more than one purpose. 300 million guns in this country a vast majority aren't being used to ' kill things '


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 15, 2012, 06:08:12 AM
Guns are a tool and nothing more. And regardless of what you claim they serve more than one purpose. 300 million guns in this country a vast majority aren't being used to ' kill things '
Let's not forget the gun industry itself, which greases a lot of political wheels with a lot of cash.   


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 06:10:44 AM
Let's not forget the gun industry itself, which greases a lot of political wheels with a lot of cash.   

Let's not forget any self-serving industry in this country which do the exact same thing.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 15, 2012, 06:12:41 AM
Let's not forget any self-serving industry in this country which do the exact same thing.
Sure, but most industries don't have PR problems with violent death incidents on a regular basis.  ;)   


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 06:14:37 AM
Sure, but most industries don't have PR problems with violent death incidents on a regular basis.  ;)   

So the gun industry is to blame for the acts of lunatics?  ???


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:14:54 AM
Someone is breaking in your house and the nearest Law Enforcement officer is 20 miles away if he is not already on a call.  What are you supposed to do?   ???


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2012, 06:14:59 AM
Sure, but most industries don't have PR problems with violent death incidents on a regular basis.  ;)   

Booze results in more deaths yet where are the liberal pussies and pansies screaming about that.  

According to typical liberal wheenie - ban guns legalize drugs.    


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2012, 06:17:02 AM
Someone is breaking in your house and the nearest Law Enforcement officer is 20 miles away if he is not already on a call.  What are you supposed to do?   ???

Sing kumbaya.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:17:22 AM
Let's not forget the gun industry itself, which greases a lot of political wheels with a lot of cash.   
They shouldn`t even be forced to do so since we do have a 2nd amendment in place.  It is a total waste of money for sure.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 15, 2012, 06:18:51 AM
the NA landscape and enviroment is much harsher,

you need to check up on Geography


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 06:19:05 AM
Someone is breaking in your house and the nearest Law Enforcement officer is 20 miles away if he is not already on a call.  What are you supposed to do?   ???

You cower in the corner and hope for the best. I don't mind people who don't want to own a gun , but to say I can't , seriously


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 15, 2012, 06:21:06 AM
So the gun industry is to blame for the acts of lunatics?  ???
Ouch. That step must have hurt. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:21:24 AM
Sing kumbaya.
These people calling for extreme gun control have no idea what that would be like as most live on top of each other in cities.  When the nearest Law Enforcement is 20 miles away, relying on them to stop a perpetrator is just insane.  The majority of towns and cities in the United States are in rural areas and this requires that they are able to protect themselves since Law Enforcement is not going to be able to do so.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 06:22:13 AM
Key word when YOU point it at somebody and pull the trigger and depending on the state of the firearm it rangers from nothing happening when I pull the trigger and a projectile existing the barrel all contingent on human desire

Again my guns never killed anyone , wanna keep blaming the object instead of the person using it?
So we live in a world were most folks don't have enough self control to not eat a twinkie yet were suppose to have some magical ability with firearms.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2012, 06:23:20 AM
These people calling for extreme gun control have no idea what that would be like as most live on top of each other in cities.  When the nearest Law Enforcement is 20 miles away, relying on them to stop a perpetrator is just insane.  The majority of towns and cities in the United States are in rural areas and this requires that they are able to protect themselves since Law Enforcement is not going to be able to do so.

More ghetto savages die every weekend across USA and these pansies say nothing at all.   Guess why?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2012, 06:24:03 AM
So we live in a world were most folks don't have enough self control to not eat a twinkie yet were suppose to have some magical ability with firearms.

Ban guns.

Legalize drugs.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: che on December 15, 2012, 06:25:03 AM
This

''Mass killers tend to be profoundly frustrated and despondent over life's disappointments, isolated from family and friends who might be in a position to provide comfort and support, and see themselves as the victim of undeserved mistreatment and unfairness. For them, the act of murder against certain people seen as responsible for their misfortune, if not against a corrupt society in general, is justified. Successful and fulfilled people, by contrast, have little need for vengeance or reason to wreak havoc in such a dramatic and public fashion.

Mass murderers often reserve their last deadly round for themselves or stand ready to be killed by police at the scene. For many, especially older assailants who have endured long years of perceived mistreatment, life on Earth becomes meaningless. They are prepared to die so long as they first achieve sufficient payback by becoming the powerful one who gets to dispense the misery. Yet even those assailants who, like the accused shooter in Colorado, willingly surrender do so knowing that they had successfully accomplished their mission: not only have they shared the pain, but they established themselves as a fearsome and dominant force in the eyes of the world.


So if there is a common pattern to these shootings and those responsible for the carnage, what does that suggest about predictability and prevention? Unfortunately, not much is readily available to help reduce the risk.

The difficult and sad truth is that thousands upon thousands of Americans share these same characteristics. There is a vast pool of people who fail to reach their ambitions, blame others or "the system" for their troubles, and have inadequate social support, yet very few will pick up a gun in response. Although the mass killer profile is predictable, their exact identifies are not. Mass murderers often exhibit telltale warning signs in their behavior or words, but these become clear only with hindsight. These so-called "red flags" are actually yellow ones that turn red only after the bloodletting.

Tighter controls on firearms licensing and sales would help to curtail our nation's high rate of gun violence, but not neccessarily this extreme form of violence. The fact is that most mass murderers, despite their readiness for violence and psychological impairment, do not have official records of criminality or mental illness that would disqualify them from gun ownership.''




Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 06:25:17 AM
These people calling for extreme gun control have no idea what that would be like as most live on top of each other in cities.  When the nearest Law Enforcement is 20 miles away, relying on them to stop a perpetrator is just insane.  The majority of towns and cities in the United States are in rural areas and this requires that they are able to protect themselves since Law Enforcement is not going to be able to do so.
Yes because the cry rate is so insane in rural areas. ::)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2012, 06:26:52 AM
Yes because the cry rate is so insane in rural areas. ::)

So then it's ok to have a gun in a crime infested city to defend yourself correct? 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:28:28 AM
You cower in the corner and hope for the best. I don't mind people who don't want to own a gun , but to say I can't , seriously
Exactly.  

I read a story on reddit a few weeks ago about 2 armed individuals breaking into a fellows house out in Wyoming.  He posted that he heard the crashing glass and had less than two minutes to react as they were charging up the stairs while firing guns.  He had two daughters, his wife and himself all upstairs where the bedrooms were located went into the hallway with an AR-15 and a pistol and laid on the ground, waiting for them to reach the top of the stairs. He fired as many rounds as he could as soon as they were in view and stopped both dead.  He said had he not reacted as fast as he did and the fact that he had adequate protection, he and his family would have surely been murdered/raped/tortured.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 06:30:19 AM
So then it's ok to have a gun in a crime infested city to defend yourself correct? 
I'm canadian I could give a fuck what you folk do with your guns, just say you hate niggas, and move on.

Just don't try using some bullshit argument on why having them makes sense.

This is what you got on your side, the fact that it is simply too hard to get rid of them. That's it every other nonsense you get on with is just idiotic posturing.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:30:53 AM
Yes because the cry rate is so insane in rural areas. ::)
It can be.  However, it doesn`t have to be.  It only takes a criminal one time to kill you.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2012, 06:33:55 AM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4699332/newtown-school-gunman-adam-lanza-a-loner.html


Blame the video games.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lovemonkey on December 15, 2012, 06:34:15 AM
Perhaps an interesting read to some of you

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/mass-shootings-investigation?page=1 (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/mass-shootings-investigation?page=1)

In the fierce debate that always follows the latest mass shooting, it's an argument you hear frequently from gun rights promoters: If only more people were armed, there would be a better chance of stopping these terrible events. This has plausibility problems—what are the odds that, say, a moviegoer with a pack of Twizzlers in one pocket and a Glock in the other would be mentally prepared, properly positioned, and skilled enough to take out a body-armored assailant in a smoke- and panic-filled theater? But whether you believe that would happen is ultimately a matter of theory and speculation. Instead, let's look at some facts gathered in a two-month investigation by Mother Jones.

In the wake of the slaughters this summer at a Colorado movie theater and a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, we set out to track mass shootings in the United States over the last 30 years. We identified and analyzed 61 of them, and one striking pattern in the data is this: In not a single case was the killing stopped by a civilian using a gun. Moreover, we found that the rate of mass shootings has increased in recent years—at a time when America has been flooded with millions of additional firearms and a barrage of new laws has made it easier than ever to carry them in public. And in recent rampages in which armed civilians attempted to intervene, they not only failed to stop the shooter but also were gravely wounded or killed.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:34:51 AM
So we live in a world were most folks don't have enough self control to not eat a twinkie yet were suppose to have some magical ability with firearms.
::)
Yes, because by that rationale nobody should be able to pilot a 4000 pound potential weapon at speeds of 70 miles per hour in public because we know they can`t control their value meal addiction.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 06:36:36 AM
It can be.  However, it doesn`t have to be.  It only takes a criminal one time to kill you.
Again these paranoid arguments are childish at best. Your trying to turn this into some quasi spiritual philosophical  religious issue, where every person has the right to decide on life and death matters as a matter of fact. The reality is this concept is applied to no other aspect of our society.

The reality is if america had sound gun control the homicide and violent crime rate would be much lower.

Granted it's impossible when you have a defenseless border with spickyco, nevertheless it is the issue.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2012, 06:38:39 AM

So Much fail it's not even funny in that excerpt.

Perhaps an interesting read to some of you

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/mass-shootings-investigation?page=1 (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/mass-shootings-investigation?page=1)

In the fierce debate that always follows the latest mass shooting, it's an argument you hear frequently from gun rights promoters: If only more people were armed, there would be a better chance of stopping these terrible events. This has plausibility problems—what are the odds that, say, a moviegoer with a pack of Twizzlers in one pocket and a Glock in the other would be mentally prepared, properly positioned, and skilled enough to take out a body-armored assailant in a smoke- and panic-filled theater? But whether you believe that would happen is ultimately a matter of theory and speculation. Instead, let's look at some facts gathered in a two-month investigation by Mother Jones.

In the wake of the slaughters this summer at a Colorado movie theater and a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, we set out to track mass shootings in the United States over the last 30 years. We identified and analyzed 61 of them, and one striking pattern in the data is this: In not a single case was the killing stopped by a civilian using a gun. Moreover, we found that the rate of mass shootings has increased in recent years—at a time when America has been flooded with millions of additional firearms and a barrage of new laws has made it easier than ever to carry them in public. And in recent rampages in which armed civilians attempted to intervene, they not only failed to stop the shooter but also were gravely wounded or killed.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:40:03 AM
Perhaps an interesting read to some of you

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/mass-shootings-investigation?page=1 (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/mass-shootings-investigation?page=1)

In the fierce debate that always follows the latest mass shooting, it's an argument you hear frequently from gun rights promoters: If only more people were armed, there would be a better chance of stopping these terrible events. This has plausibility problems—what are the odds that, say, a moviegoer with a pack of Twizzlers in one pocket and a Glock in the other would be mentally prepared, properly positioned, and skilled enough to take out a body-armored assailant in a smoke- and panic-filled theater? But whether you believe that would happen is ultimately a matter of theory and speculation. Instead, let's look at some facts gathered in a two-month investigation by Mother Jones.

In the wake of the slaughters this summer at a Colorado movie theater and a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, we set out to track mass shootings in the United States over the last 30 years. We identified and analyzed 61 of them, and one striking pattern in the data is this: In not a single case was the killing stopped by a civilian using a gun. Moreover, we found that the rate of mass shootings has increased in recent years—at a time when America has been flooded with millions of additional firearms and a barrage of new laws has made it easier than ever to carry them in public. And in recent rampages in which armed civilians attempted to intervene, they not only failed to stop the shooter but also were gravely wounded or killed.

Thats not the point at all.  These "mass shootings" are a non-issue.

Here is the problem, people want to use events such as mass killing to legislate restrictions on law abiding gun owners based on nonsensical reasoning.  Some nut in Connecticut going on a rampage has nothing to do with someone in say, Alabama wanting to protect their property and family from potential threats.

I can give you tons of cases where perpetrators have been stopped by civilians wielding guns.  Want me to start?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lovemonkey on December 15, 2012, 06:41:00 AM
So Much fail it's not even funny in that excerpt.


I can't say I know enough about american gun politics and statistics to pass judgement, so I'd be curios to hear why think that article is full of fail?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 06:41:18 AM
::)
Yes, because by that rationale nobody should be able to pilot a 4000 pound potential weapon at speeds of 70 miles per hour in public because we know they can`t control their value meal addiction.
First off driving has a hugely practical value to society that would be impossible ignore. There aren't many countries in the world without cars.

Second you need a liscenes and this is highly regulated by the police.

Third I'm authoritarian I actually believe the laws on cars should be much stricter. The death tole with cars is fucking insane.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:42:28 AM
Again these paranoid arguments are childish at best. Your trying to turn this into some quasi spiritual philosophical  religious issue, where every person has the right to decide on life and death matters as a matter of fact. The reality is this concept is applied to no other aspect of our society.

The reality is if america had sound gun control the homicide and violent crime rate would be much lower.

Granted it's impossible when you have a defenseless border with spickyco, nevertheless it is the issue.
::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R14GohmL4g


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:43:18 AM
 ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQcoNr6ZIEc


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lovemonkey on December 15, 2012, 06:43:26 AM
Thats not the point at all.  These "mass shootings" are a non-issue.

Here is the problem, people want to use events such as mass killing to legislate restrictions on law abiding gun owners based on nonsensical reasoning.  Some nut in Connecticut going on a rampage has nothing to do with someone in say, Alabama wanting to protect their property and family from potential threats.

I can give you tons of cases where perpetrators have been stopped by civilians wielding guns.  Want me to start?

I'd love to see that actually. I don't doubt you at all that there are plenty of cases where guns have come in handy. Just don't post individual anecdotes(which can be done by any side of the argument) as it's not very illuminating, I'd be more interested in overall statistics when it comes to guns vs no guns.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 06:43:53 AM
Thats not the point at all.  These "mass shootings" are a non-issue.

Here is the problem, people want to use events such as mass killing to legislate restrictions on law abiding gun owners based on nonsensical reasoning.  Some nut in Connecticut going on a rampage has nothing to do with someone in say, Alabama wanting to protect their property and family from potential threats.

I can give you tons of cases where perpetrators have been stopped by civilians wielding guns.  Want me to start?
This is where your trying to turn it into some quasi religious system, where the right to shoot over shawdows the needs of society.

These mass killings are only the tip of the iceberg.

It don't just making shootings more commons, it makes regular crimes like home invasions much more violent.

It just puts the criminal and the citizen in a world that is much more intense, meaning people escalate the gambles.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:44:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1-Kz3vU5DY


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 06:46:06 AM
I'd love to see that actually. I don't doubt you at all that there are plenty of cases where guns have come in handy. Just don't post individual anecdotes(which can be done by any side of the argument) as it's not very illuminating, I'd be more interested in overall statistics when it comes to guns vs no guns.
But that is his argument that because some random folk do actually do things right it outweights the fact that so many more do things wrong.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:47:04 AM
 8)

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http://www.newsmax.com/Hirsen/Angelina-Jolie/2008/06/02/id/323896
Angelina Jolie Touts Gun Ownership


“I bought original, real guns of the type we used in ‘Tomb Raider’ for security. Brad and I are not against having a gun in the house, and we do have one,” Jolie tells the U.K. Daily Mail.

In case you’re wondering whether a Malibu celeb would really use a firearm for self-defense, Jolie supplies the answer: “Yes, I'd be able to use it if I had to. I could handle myself. I think there are certain combat skills that would come out.

“If anybody comes into my home and tries to hurt my kids, I've no problem shooting them,”



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:49:40 AM
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/entertainment/brad-pitt-buying-angelina-jolie-gun-range

Brad Pitt Buying Angelina Jolie a Gun Range

 Mon, September 03, 2012
Brad Pitt has splashed out $250,000 on a gun range as a wedding gift for Angelina Jolie.

The couple are getting married at their French estate Miraval later this year and Brad installed the range and armory for his future bride.

A source told The Sun newspaper, “Brad had a lot to live up with his wedding gift considering Angelina exchanged vials of blood with her ex-husband Billy-Bob Thornton.

“But Ange clearly finds shooting an aphrodisiac. When she and Brad were around weapons on the set of 2005′s ‘Mr & Mrs Smith’ they ended up together.”

The insider adds, “And by letting Angelina de-stress at the range, he’s less likely to get earache indoors. There’s a lot to be said for that when you have six kids.”

Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie became engaged in April of this year after dating for seven years. The couple admits their six children has been pressuring them to get married.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lovemonkey on December 15, 2012, 06:49:54 AM
You're so predictable Adonis. You can flood the thread with anecdotes all you want, but it still won't prove your point. All you're doing is making people scroll through the thread without reading anything.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 06:50:29 AM
You're so predictable Adonis. You can flood the thread with anecdotes all you want, but it still won't prove your point. All you're doing is making people scroll through the thread without reading anything.
Sssshhhhhh he's trying to troll.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:51:05 AM
You're so predictable Adonis. You can flood the thread with anecdotes all you want, but it still won't prove your point. All you're doing is making people scroll through the thread without reading anything.
You can`t boil it down to one statistic sorry.  Someone breaks into your house, which can happen at anytime, you need to have the right to end them.  Its as simple as that.  What more do you want to see or "know"?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2012, 06:52:45 AM
Even if we banned guns tommorow where are all the existing guns going to go?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lovemonkey on December 15, 2012, 06:53:40 AM
You can`t boil it down to one statistic sorry.  Someone breaks into your house, which can happen at anytime, you need to have the right to end them.  Its as simple as that.  What more do you want to see or "know"?

I'm curios to find out if nation wide gun ownership is helpful in preventing or stopping crimes or if it's counterproductive. We can talk about hypothetical situations all day long but it won't make us any wiser about America today.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: chaos on December 15, 2012, 06:54:02 AM
Even if we banned guns tommorow where are all the existing guns going to go?
My bunker ???


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 06:54:07 AM
You can`t boil it down to one statistic sorry.  Someone breaks into your house, which can happen at anytime, you need to have the right to end them.  Its as simple as that.  What more do you want to see or "know"?
this is your quasi religious argument again. I really don't care if you get killed. What I care about is society as a whole.

The odds of me getting fucked up in a home invasion get so much higher the second I goto a place with more guns.

This is why your arguments are so laughable, the level of saftey I have where I live compared to yours is just ironic.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 06:54:58 AM
Even if we banned guns tommorow where are all the existing guns going to go?
As I said, thats the one argument you got stick to that one. That is the only thing you got.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:55:22 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/celebrity-gun-owners-license_n_1557203.html
Celebrity Gun Owners and Carriers
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Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lovemonkey on December 15, 2012, 06:56:33 AM
Even if we banned guns tommorow where are all the existing guns going to go?

It just might be that it's way too late for that now. Even if ALL guns were banned tomorrow, it would probably take a very, very long time before it has any effect since there already are so many guns in circulation. It's pretty obvious by now that restricting gun ownership doesn't really do much at this point. The problem America is facing seems to go deeper than that.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:57:58 AM
I'm curios to find out if nation wide gun ownership is helpful in preventing or stopping crimes or if it's counterproductive. We can talk about hypothetical situations all day long but it won't make us any wiser about America today.
How can you measure people NOT breaking into houses or a particular area because they KNOW that nearly everyone has a gun and therefore they don`t dare break in? 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 06:58:31 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/celebrity-gun-owners-license_n_1557203.html



I'm taking your attempt to sidetrack the thread with anecdotes to mean we got you beat.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:59:14 AM
It just might be that it's way too late for that now. Even if ALL guns were banned tomorrow, it would probably take a very, very long time before it has any effect since there already are so many guns in circulation. It's pretty obvious by now that restricting gun ownership doesn't really do much at this point. The problem America is facing seems to go deeper than that.
What is someone to do if they live in a rural area and the nearest Law Enforcement is 20 miles away and somebody is bashing the door in?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lovemonkey on December 15, 2012, 06:59:55 AM
How can you measure people NOT breaking into houses or a particular area because they KNOW that nearly everyone has a gun and therefore they don`t dare break in? 

I wouldn't agree with that premise but lets assume it's true that it can't be measured, then how would you be able to back up the very point you're trying to make? Can you only do it hypothetically?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 07:00:46 AM
What is someone to do if they live in a rural area and the nearest Law Enforcement is 20 miles away and somebody is bashing the door in?
Leave there home, and let the thieves do what they want.


EDIT: FUCK OFF FUCKROD.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lovemonkey on December 15, 2012, 07:03:06 AM
What is someone to do if they live in a rural area and the nearest Law Enforcement is 20 miles away and somebody is bashing the door in?

Carry a piece perhaps? I don't know what the best solution is really, that's what I'm curios to find out. But just assuming that a gun is going to solve all your problems is basically just saying that you like the idea of defending yourself with a gun, but don't give a shit about any other aspects.

I'm ready to be persuaded either way. But I need to see actual statistical evidence before making up my mind.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 07:04:16 AM
Carry a piece perhaps? I don't know what the best solution is really, that's what I'm curios to find out. But just assuming that a gun is going to solve all your problems is basically just saying that you like the idea of defending yourself with a gun, but don't give a shit about any other aspects.

I'm ready to be persuaded either way. But I need to see actual statistical evidence before making up my mind.
The scenarios bullshit, in most small towns crime is usually personal in nature.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:04:47 AM

http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

* At the current homicide rate, roughly one in every 240 Americans will be murdered.[23]
 
* A U.S. Justice Department study based on crime data from 1974-1985 found:
 
• 42% of Americans will be the victim of a completed violent crime (assault, robbery, rape) in the course of their lives
• 83% of Americans will be the victim of an attempted or completed violent crime
• 52% of Americans will be the victim of an attempted or completed violent crime more than once[24]
 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:05:22 AM
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.[20]


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:06:29 AM
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

* A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:[21]

• 34% had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"
• 40% had decided not to commit a crime because they "knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun"
• 69% personally knew other criminals who had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"[22]


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:07:30 AM
(http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/england.png)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 07:07:56 AM
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

* At the current homicide rate, roughly one in every 240 Americans will be murdered.[23]
 
* A U.S. Justice Department study based on crime data from 1974-1985 found:
 
• 42% of Americans will be the victim of a completed violent crime (assault, robbery, rape) in the course of their lives
• 83% of Americans will be the victim of an attempted or completed violent crime
• 52% of Americans will be the victim of an attempted or completed violent crime more than once[24]
 
How about you get a clear definition what those stats.

Chick being raped by people they know, is not part of the argument.

Nor is being punched, push over, or other violent inccidents.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:08:29 AM
(http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/chicago_handguns.png)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:09:17 AM
* Since the outset of the Chicago handgun ban, the percentage of Chicago murders committed with handguns has averaged about 40% higher than it was before the law took effect.[55]


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:09:57 AM
(http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/florida.png)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:10:58 AM
(http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/accidents_fatal.png)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 07:11:02 AM
* Since the outset of the Chicago handgun ban, the percentage of Chicago murders committed with handguns has averaged about 40% higher than it was before the law took effect.[55]
Chicago is a shit argument, because it's not true gun control, as all the states neighboring it weren't under the law.

These stats are made much more meaningless when you factor in herion and the crack epidemic.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:11:40 AM
(http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/accidents_nonfatal.png)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:12:33 AM
Chicago is a shit argument, because it's not true gun control, as all the states neighboring it weren't under the law.

These stats are made much more meaningless when you factor in herion and the crack epidemic.
ROFLMAO!

Crack and Heroin shoot guns from Michigan so therefore the murder rate in Chicago has increased?  ???


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:13:49 AM
(http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/dc.png)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 07:14:25 AM
ROFLMAO!

Crack and Heroin shoot guns from Michigan so therefore the murder rate in Chicago has increased?  ???
Whatever dude, it's well established the crack epidemic of the mid to late 80's put crime through the roof. The same herion in the uk did much the same.




Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 07:15:24 AM
(http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/dc.png)
Yep and dc was hit in 1985 with crack. That's basic american history. It took a little longer to spread to other regions of the states, but it's well known.

In fact all your proven is that there is no relationship to gun laws on state levels and the amount of killings period.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:15:37 AM
Whatever dude, it's well established the crack epidemic of the mid to late 80's put crime through the roof. The same herion in the uk did much the same.



Whats that got to do with handguns?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 07:17:15 AM
Whats that got to do with handguns?
Answer your fucking question I'm done with this. You know I'm spot on with this and yet you still insist on trying to sidetrack it.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:19:52 AM
Answer your fucking question I'm done with this. You know I'm spot on with this and yet you still insist on trying to sidetrack it.
What question and its obvious you couldn`t be more wrong than anything.

 ::)

A lot of good those gun banning laws did.  :D


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:22:13 AM
(http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/texas.png)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:22:44 AM
(http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/michigan.png)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 15, 2012, 07:26:59 AM
True Adonis, the above graphs show a definite correlation, but obviously do not show cause and effect. So you know its hard to pinpoint a drop in crime solely to gun ownership. Gun ownership may just be ONE factor in determining  a decrease in crime.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: L00n on December 15, 2012, 07:28:22 AM
too much freedom .. way too much freedom in America that;s the reason .


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: haider on December 15, 2012, 07:36:56 AM
True Adonis, the above graphs show a definite correlation, but obviously do not show cause and effect. So you know its hard to pinpoint a drop in crime solely to gun ownership. Gun ownership may just be ONE factor in determining  a decrease in crime.
The funny thing is the last graph he posted there was a concurrent OVERALL decline in violence in the rest of the states (pink line) as the right to carry gun laws were instituted which i presume is claiming to have had an affect on crime. So effectively there is very little correlation.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 15, 2012, 07:41:29 AM
The funny thing is the last graph he posted there was a concurrent OVERALL decline in violence in the rest of the states (pink line) as the right to carry gun laws were instituted which i presume is claiming to have had an affect on crime. So effectively there is very little correlation.

ahhh, yes, there was an OVERALL decline in crime rate when comparing specific states to the rest of the USA.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 07:43:14 AM
What question and its obvious you couldn`t be more wrong than anything.

 ::)

A lot of good those gun banning laws did.  :D
As I said, your only argument is that it's impossible to enforce these laws. Because america is saturated with guns and has a shit border.

If you stick to this one singular point, you have an argument.

What you fail to realize is, your not right because your philosophically right, your right because you've been wrong for so fucking long there's nothing that can be done about it.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:44:02 AM
The funny thing is the last graph he posted there was a concurrent OVERALL decline in violence in the rest of the states (pink line) as the right to carry gun laws were instituted which i presume is claiming to have had an affect on crime. So effectively there is very little correlation.
A couple of things:

These graphs show that in states with gun bans, they were completely ineffective.  Also, these graphs also show that since the Right to Carry has been established, the crime rate has been lowered to match or go below the national average with a continual trend downward.

What does this mean?  This means that allowing citizens to own and carry guns DOES NOT increase murder rates and it shows a trend of keeping within or below the national average so what would be the point of restricting this freedom?

As you can see, there would be absolutely no point.  THAT is how you interpret these graphs correctly.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 15, 2012, 07:45:29 AM
But how do you know a drop in murder rates was solely due to gun ownership?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 15, 2012, 07:46:36 AM
Some of those reporters should be fukcing shot. They were interviewing 6 year old kids right after shit went down. I would have knocked the reporter the fck out if I saw that go down. Asking fukcing babies to relive what they just seen is what therapist are for years later. They (the reporters) probably went there with order s from their superiors(the Hierarchy) to get the kids to talk. Unbelievable.

Journalists are generally low life gutter scum, see current  UK media and govt pedophile cover up they have been maintaining for decades.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:46:55 AM
ahhh, yes, there was an OVERALL decline in crime rate when comparing specific states to the rest of the USA.
This totally supports my Pro-Gun argument as I stated above.  There is no ill effect on letting citizens have the right to Conceal and Carry.  This is precisely what is being shown so why try and take this right away since it poses absolutely ZERO threat.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:48:00 AM
But how do you know a drop in murder rates was solely due to gun ownership?
We know murder rates haven`t increased due to more gun ownership.  So why should we ban gun ownership?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 15, 2012, 07:48:51 AM
This totally supports my Pro-Gun argument as I stated above.  There is no ill effect on letting citizens have the right to Conceal and Carry.  This is precisely what is being shown so why try and take this right away since it poses absolutely ZERO threat.

Well, I guess you can also look at it from that angle as well.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:49:34 AM
As I said, your only argument is that it's impossible to enforce these laws. Because america is saturated with guns and has a shit border.

If you stick to this one singular point, you have an argument.

What you fail to realize is, your not right because your philosophically right, your right because you've been wrong for so fucking long there's nothing that can be done about it.

Thats not my argument and I never made it.  Moron.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 07:50:07 AM
But how do you know a drop in murder rates was solely due to gun ownership?
He's not saying that at all, he's saying that on a state level gun laws are unenforceable. Which is something we already knew. It's a circular argument.

The irony goes like this. I believe guns should be legal because of blah blah blah, and because there impossible to get rid of.

The reason guns are so impossible to get rid of is because of the blah blah blah.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 15, 2012, 07:50:44 AM
We know murder rates haven`t increased due to more gun ownership.  So why should we ban gun ownership?

Well, we know based on that correlation. But there could be other factors also coming into play. So if you can figure out with those other factors are that decrease crime rate, besides guns, would you then be more apt to have stricter gun laws or ban guns?

ps - I am not saying we should ban guns, as I have no stake in gun laws. I am just plaing devils advocate.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:51:49 AM
Well, I guess you can also look at it from that angle as well.
You have to look at it that way.  Its too bad most can`t comprehend it in that manner.  The media can`t even interpret it correctly.  The fact is the increased gun ownership among citizens has had absolutely no ill effect when it comes to homicide rates, yet there are many people in power who want to restrict or take this freedom away.  Why?  It doesn`t make any logical sense.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 07:54:49 AM
You have to look at it that way.  Its too bad most can`t comprehend it in that manner.  The media can`t even interpret it correctly.  The fact is the increased gun ownership among citizens has had absolutely no ill effect when it comes to homicide rates, yet there are many people in power who want to restrict or take this freedom away.  Why?  It doesn`t make any logical sense.
This is bullshit, gun ownership may be going up but crimes  rates are going down in most countries around the world. Your making statements that are impossible to get accurate data on. A time based analysis of homicide rates is useless when there are zero controls on the stats.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:55:29 AM
This is bullshit, gun ownership may be going up but crimes  rates are going down in most countries around the world. Your making statements that are impossible to get accurate data on. A time based analysis of homicide rates is useless when there are zero controls on the stats.
So why do you want a gun ban if its not having any effect on homicide rates?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:56:23 AM
This is bullshit, gun ownership may be going up but crimes  rates are going down in most countries around the world. Your making statements that are impossible to get accurate data on. A time based analysis of homicide rates is useless when there are zero controls on the stats.
hahaha you are melting because you have no facts or logical reasoning to back up your nonsense.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 07:57:29 AM
So why do you want a gun ban if its not having any effect on homicide rates?
I don't want no gun ban, as I said from the start it's impossible to enforce one in the states.

What I want is for you to shut the fuck up with this absurd arguments about the 1st amendment, what would you do if, anecdote this, etc.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 15, 2012, 07:58:32 AM
Evil in the human nature.

Leave aside the terrible details and reality the aspect that a young man shoots a bunch of people is fascinating from a psychological aspect. What does one feel when you shoot and kill? It must be good otherwise why would they not stop?
Some guy in a docu said once in Vietnam he was a door gunner and he loved the feeling of the pig 60 when he was shooting it.
Whats wrong with us that we like or learn to like killing?




Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:59:57 AM
I don't want no gun ban, as I said from the start it's impossible to enforce one in the states.

What I want is for you to shut the fuck up with this absurd arguments about the 1st amendment, what would you do if, anecdote this, etc.  
The Freedom of Speech?  What on earth are you talking about?  Now you don`t want a gun ban?  You are insane.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 08:01:12 AM
The Freedom of Speech?  What on earth are you talking about?  Now you don`t want a gun ban?  You are insane.
Hypothetically I want a gun ban but it's pointless in america at this point. I meant the 2nd amendment.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 15, 2012, 08:02:58 AM
Hypothetically I want a gun ban but it's pointless in america at this point. I meant the 2nd amendment.
Impractical is the word you're looking for.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 08:03:41 AM
Hypothetically I want a gun ban but it's pointless in america at this point. I meant the 2nd amendment.
So why are you even arguing?  We already know the facts are not on your side and now you admit that its all pointless impractical and nonsensical. Why all the hubbub, bub?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 08:06:41 AM
Impractical is the word you're looking for.
Dr. Chimps,  I`d like your opinion on this matter:

Someone has just smashed your door and is breaking in your home.  The nearest Law Enforcement officer is 20 miles away.  What are you supposed to do?

Would you rather have a gun or not and why?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: haider on December 15, 2012, 08:11:52 AM
A couple of things:

These graphs show that in states with gun bans, they were completely ineffective.  Also, these graphs also show that since the Right to Carry has been established, the crime rate has been lowered to match or go below the national average with a continual trend downward.

What does this mean?  This means that allowing citizens to own and carry guns DOES NOT increase murder rates and it shows a trend of keeping within or below the national average so what would be the point of restricting this freedom?

As you can see, there would be absolutely no point.  THAT is how you interpret these graphs correctly.
I was commenting on a particular graph only and its interpretation; admittedly I don't know the overall picture and am not arguing either way (though I do think we should do SOMETHING, rather than nothing about the current epidemic). As others have pointed out correlation does not equal causation, and also there are other factors at play which affect outcomes. So a single graph does not show the whole picture anyway.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 08:14:37 AM
I'm canadian I could give a fuck what you folk do with your guns, just say you hate niggas, and move on.

Just don't try using some bullshit argument on why having them makes sense.

This is what you got on your side, the fact that it is simply too hard to get rid of them. That's it every other nonsense you get on with is just idiotic posturing.
This is my point from the beginning and I'm sticking to it.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 15, 2012, 08:14:41 AM
Unless police officers can respond to every 911 call within 30sec of making that call, guns should never be outlawed

Police don't protect, they only come with chalk to outline the dead bodies and take pictures to solve the crime

Police spend most of their time harassing decent citizens, not protecting them.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 08:15:16 AM
I was commenting on a particular graph only and its interpretation; admittedly I don't know the overall picture and am not arguing either way (though I do think we should do SOMETHING, rather than nothing about the current epidemic). As others have pointed out correlation does not equal causation, and also there are other factors at play which affect outcomes. So a single graph does not show the whole picture anyway.
What "epidemic"?  Media Sensationalism?

You know, this shooter was buzzed in by someone at that school.  The doors were locked electronically and someone let him in.  I`d say this is where the problem lies in this situation.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: haider on December 15, 2012, 08:17:03 AM
What "epidemic"?  Media Sensationalism?

You know, this shooter was buzzed in by someone at that school.  The doors were locked electronically and someone let him in.  I`d say this is where the problem lies in this situation.
I feel uncomfortable with the idea and anyone should have the ability to do this. He could have picked any other venue and killed as many people.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 08:18:27 AM
I feel uncomfortable with the idea and anyone should have the ability to do this. He could have picked any other venue and killed as many people.
What's any other venue this shit keeps getting said, but the fact that the guy chose this location must of been in part to having only lesser options.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 15, 2012, 08:20:11 AM
Dr. Chimps,  I`d like your opinion on this matter:

Someone has just smashed your door and is breaking in your home.  The nearest Law Enforcement officer is 20 miles away.  What are you supposed to do?

Would you rather have a gun or not and why?
Not a fan of guns. I have a nice softball bat for home protection. As for guns, yea or nay, it's a complicated issue, emotional, too - no simple, binary, solutions. But, I suppose, as long as people continue to value gun ownership as they do, these types of events will also continue to occur. It's the price one pays.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: haider on December 15, 2012, 08:20:29 AM
What's any other venue this shit keeps getting said, but the fact that the guy chose this location must of been in part to having only lesser options.
who knows why he picked it, not sure what your point is


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 08:25:55 AM



The Sandy Hook Elementary murders will be covered on the news for weeks to come. But if you ask a forensics psychiatrist, we shouldn't.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 08:30:22 AM
who knows why he picked it, not sure what your point is
Likely to do as much damage as possible. The only real trend in these shootings is they generally try to outdo their competition. The kids idea you gotta admit was fucking clever, after the theater business you'd think folk would of had enough to not care about this shit.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2012, 08:34:21 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/nyregion/adam-lanza-an-enigma-who-is-now-identified-as-a-mass-killer.html?pagewanted=2&hp


This guy was going to blow regardless. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 15, 2012, 08:41:06 AM
Interesting -
(http://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/b17e05c4-46bd-11e2-b12f-12313d1cec55-large.jpg)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 15, 2012, 08:42:37 AM
Guns don't kill people; people kill people.
Guns are just a tool that people use to achieve their goals.

As someone else pointed out, gun control in this country will do nothing but take guns out of the innocents hands, as there are so many firearms in circulation, that the only people that would hand them over would be the law abiding citizens, you know, the ones not committing murder.

can you imagine if all guns were illegal. The types of guns that would be made on the black market would be mind boggling.  Like drugs, exotic weapons would run wild. I also think people would arm themselves with pipe bombs in shit in their house. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 15, 2012, 08:46:30 AM
can you imagine if all guns were illegal. The types of guns that would be made on the black market would be mind boggling.  
It's not just that, a good machinist can make most of the parts to build an assault rifle on a decent CNC machine. Besides, with the amount of firearms in circulation in the US, actually banning firearms would be a massive failure.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 15, 2012, 08:48:03 AM
I wonder how many women out there that have been raped and got themselves a firearm would be willing to just give it up?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2012, 08:55:00 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248197/Adam-Lanza-How-honor-student-goth-killer-massacring-20-children-Sandy-Hook-Elementary.html


Look at this freak.   Yeah a law would have stopped this guy.  Whatever morons, believe what you want.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 15, 2012, 09:00:48 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248197/Adam-Lanza-How-honor-student-goth-killer-massacring-20-children-Sandy-Hook-Elementary.html


Look at this freak.   Yeah a law would have stopped this guy.  Whatever morons, believe what you want.
They weren't even his firearms.
He took his mothers guns after shooting her, and then used her firearms to shoot the kids.

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Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 15, 2012, 09:07:48 AM
lol, the tutsi mutsi or whatever massacre comes to mind, where the ppl hacked the others to pieces with machetes,hundreds of thousands

People?  Loose term in this example.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Tapeworm on December 15, 2012, 09:30:48 AM
If I lived in a shooting gallery I'd want to own a gun too.  It's a situationally sane choice.  But if that were the whole issue you'd be hearing all sorts of dialogue about how to best do away with gun ownership as an unfortunate necessity of regrettable circumstances.  You never hear that.

I see frightened people, and they're probably right to be frightened sometimes, but fear has run away with a lot of them and induced a xenophobia of anything outside the front door.  There's no room for dialogue.  Everyone's too scared and mistrustful.  People are fearful, consequently quick to become aggressive, and holding on tight to what gives them a means to protect themselves from the terrifying world that's out to get them.  Something's always out to get you in the US and the threat is always immediate.  It seems like every decision made by the American people is made out of fear and nothing else.

It saddens me to see my country, which should be a living example of the achievement of great societal possibilities, atomized into locked 'n loaded individuals making their last stand behind locked doors every single night and taking a bizarre pride in how tough they are with their backs up against the wall.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 15, 2012, 09:49:39 AM
Chicago is a shit argument, because it's not true gun control, as all the states neighboring it weren't under the law.

These stats are made much more meaningless when you factor in herion and the crack epidemic.

You obviously know sweet fuck all about Chicago.

You asked for proof, he supplied it, you dismissed it because it makes you look like a fool.

Regardless of how idyllic you claim the Canadian shithole you live in squalor in really isn't.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 09:51:32 AM
You obviously know sweet fuck all about Chicago.

You asked for proof, he supplied it, you dismissed it because it makes you look like a fool.

Regardless of how idyllic you claim the Canadian shithole you live in squalor in really isn't.
When did I say it was idealic, I simply said gun crime isn't a concern of mine.

Irregardless, I know that in canada illegal arms cross the border in record numbers, to think what chicago does matters when it lacks a border is laughable.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 15, 2012, 09:54:44 AM
Interesting -
(http://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/b17e05c4-46bd-11e2-b12f-12313d1cec55-large.jpg)

Now subtract out the inner city drug/gang portion of the stats and see where the U.S. falls.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 15, 2012, 10:07:30 AM
When did I say it was idealic, I simply said gun crime isn't a concern of mine.

Irregardless, I know that in canada illegal arms cross the border in record numbers, to think what chicago does matters when it lacks a border is laughable.

So in your fucked up way of thinking, I should have no defense against becoming a victim of violent crime so that you can feel better about yourself?

If you lived in the south side of Chicago you wouldn't take any measures to protect your wife and children? If you lived on the AZ/Mexico border, you would leave your doors unlocked at night because the people of Weasel Piss Creek Saskatchewan are non violent?

You're talking out your ass. When the level and type of crime in Canada escalate to what is found here in the U.S., the citizenry will escalate their level of protection against becoming a victim.

The bigger issue is criminals/gangs etc. having a total disregard for human life, necessitating a level of protection against those scumbags of society.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 10:16:59 AM
Interesting -
(http://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/b17e05c4-46bd-11e2-b12f-12313d1cec55-large.jpg)


It's very revealing and why? USA isn't even close to the top and the all the foreigners are screaming about the USA is that the USA is this , why are they screaming? SENSATIONALISM from the American media , which make quasi-stars out of these killers who they cover 24-7

Who is bitching & moaning about 16 countries ahead of us? NO ONE  why? people have their agenda and everyone if focused on us. Consider the fact we have THREE HUNDRED MILLION guns as we're still not any where near the top of the list.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 10:23:27 AM

It's very revealing and why? USA isn't even close to the top and the all the foreigners are screaming about the USA is that the USA is this , why are they screaming? SENSATIONALISM from the American media , which make quasi-stars out of these killers who they cover 24-7

Who is bitching & moaning about 16 countries ahead of us? NO ONE  why? people have their agenda and everyone if focused on us. Consider the fact we have THREE HUNDRED MILLION guns as we're still not any where near the top of the list.
Please pull up the gdp per capita stats america ranks with 2nd world countries not first.  3rd world countries aren't worth talking about


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 10:32:21 AM
So in your fucked up way of thinking, I should have no defense against becoming a victim of violent crime so that you can feel better about yourself?

If you lived in the south side of Chicago you wouldn't take any measures to protect your wife and children? If you lived on the AZ/Mexico border, you would leave your doors unlocked at night because the people of Weasel Piss Creek Saskatchewan are non violent?

You're talking out your ass. When the level and type of crime in Canada escalate to what is found here in the U.S., the citizenry will escalate their level of protection against becoming a victim.

The bigger issue is criminals/gangs etc. having a total disregard for human life, necessitating a level of protection against those scumbags of society.
Your an idiot. Those same countries that have the highest homicides rates tend to immigrate to canada as refugess.

All our major cities have major troubles with gangs mafias, and other groups.

We got the tamil tigers, italian, russians, jamaicans, columbians, quebecois hells angels, japanese gangs, everything. And outside of our cities we got violent retarted fucking natives that live like viking(you know big on the raping and shit).

The only reason our violence is less extreme is because our government and people aren't in the process of starting an arms war with people with nothing left to loose.

The rational and proven thing to do is deescalate the violence, by slapping criminals on the wrist.

As criminals just like everyone  else feels the need to feel protected, when a criminal feels safe he leaves his guns behind.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 15, 2012, 10:33:55 AM

It's very revealing and why? USA isn't even close to the top and the all the foreigners are screaming about the USA is that the USA is this , why are they screaming? SENSATIONALISM from the American media , which make quasi-stars out of these killers who they cover 24-7
 

I see every other first and second world country  much safer than ours.

hooray, we aren't as dangerous as Colombia  ::)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 15, 2012, 10:34:36 AM


The rational and proven thing to do is deescalate the violence, by slapping criminals on the wrist.

As criminals just like everyone  else feels the need to feel protected, when a criminal feels safe he leaves his guns behind.



LOL WTF?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 15, 2012, 10:36:21 AM
I see every other first and second world country  much safer than ours.

hooray, we aren't as dangerous as Columbia  ::)
I think it's pretty decent for the sheer amount of firearms available in this country.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 10:36:38 AM
LOL WTF?
It's a rather simple concept, if your robbing a house do you bring a gun, if there's zero chance you need it, and it will only result in stiffer penalties.

Most people choose not to,

However if there's a risk the guy is a racist gun nut would you or would you not bring it that is the fucking question.

The answer is obvious.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 10:36:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1JOFhfoAD4


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 10:38:38 AM
I see every other first and second world country  much safer than ours.

hooray, we aren't as dangerous as Colombia  ::)
Thats not true at all.  These statistics are elevated from the urban areas vs the rural areas.  Its not really a good measure of violence in your area when its an aggregate that is boosted mainly by black crime in larger cities.  :-\


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 10:39:36 AM
Thats not true at all.  These statistics are elevated from the urban areas vs the rural areas.  Its not really a good measure of violence in your area when its an aggregate that is boosted mainly by black crime in larger cities.  :-\
The fuck are you trying to say, that japan is less urban?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 10:40:40 AM
I see every other first and second world country  much safer than ours.

hooray, we aren't as dangerous as Colombia  ::)

Take what you want from that , considering the amount of firearms personally owned in this country that numbers is low , not perfect but low when you take that into consideration.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 10:42:30 AM
(http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/orace.png)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 10:42:41 AM
Lets look at the first world countries.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 10:43:04 AM
The fuck are you trying to say, that japan is less urban?
Again, they have a monoculture and no blacks.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: che on December 15, 2012, 10:43:23 AM

It's very revealing and why? USA isn't even close to the top and the all the foreigners are screaming about the USA is that the USA is this , why are they screaming? SENSATIONALISM from the American media , which make quasi-stars out of these killers who they cover 24-7

Who is bitching & moaning about 16 countries ahead of us? NO ONE  why? people have their agenda and everyone if focused on us. Consider the fact we have THREE HUNDRED MILLION guns as we're still not any where near the top of the list.

All the countries above  USA in that list  are 3rd world countries, the high crime in those countries are direct result of impoverishment ,it has nothing to do with gun control laws or mass murderers.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 10:44:30 AM
Lets look at the first world countries.
Where are the blacks in those other countries?  ???


(http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/orace.png)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2012, 10:45:08 AM
Lets look at the first world countries.


Take out minority crime and we are in far better shape.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 10:45:49 AM
(http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/orace.png)
Your ignoring the fact that poor blacks live in "urban" areas, while poor whites live in rural, which is something you just brought up.


Anyhow I don't disagree this isn't partially an issue with blacks, but your pretending all the countries on the list have no non white populations.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 10:47:06 AM
Lets look at the first world countries.

Let's compare them by firearm ownership who else comes close to having 300 millions guns , the number for the US is low considering that fact.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 15, 2012, 10:47:15 AM
Your an idiot. Those same countries that have the highest homicides rates tend to immigrate to canada as refugess.

All our major cities have major troubles with gangs mafias, and other groups.

We got the tamil tigers, italian, russians, jamaicans, columbians, quebecois hells angels, japanese gangs, everything. And outside of our cities we got violent retarted fucking natives that live like viking(you know big on the raping and shit).

The only reason our violence is less extreme is because our government and people aren't in the process of starting an arms war with people with nothing left to loose.

The rational and proven thing to do is deescalate the violence, by slapping criminals on the wrist.

As criminals just like everyone  else feels the need to feel protected, when a criminal feels safe he leaves his guns behind.



I was born and raised in Canada, so cut the bullshit. A couple drunken Indians on a reservation are not the Black Gangster Disciples.

Your statement about "deescalating" proves nothing more than you suffer from some type of mental handicap. The same type of mental separation from reality that causes a person to pick up a gun and kill 20 children.

I get no satisfaction from arguing with the fat, retarded kid in the neighborhood. TA can continue to club you upside the head with reality, although obviously he is wasting his time.

Be careful out there on the "mean streets" of Brampton, Ontario. The hardened criminals may not have "deescalated" and left their slingshots at home.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 10:48:50 AM

Take out minority crime and we are in far better shape.
Oh no worries brother I covered that base when I entered the thread. ;)



I'm canadian I could give a fuck what you folk do with your guns, just say you hate niggas, and move on.

Just don't try using some bullshit argument on why having them makes sense.

This is what you got on your side, the fact that it is simply too hard to get rid of them. That's it every other nonsense you get on with is just idiotic posturing.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 10:49:41 AM
Your ignoring the fact that poor blacks live in "urban" areas, while poor whites live in rural, which is something you just brought up.


Anyhow I don't disagree this isn't partially an issue with blacks, but your pretending all the countries on the list have no non white populations.
What are the latest figures of black population in Switzerland?  :D


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 10:50:58 AM
I was born and raised in Canada, so cut the bullshit. A couple drunken Indians on a reservation are not the Black Gangster Disciples.

Your statement about "deescalating" proves nothing more than you suffer from some type of mental handicap. The same type of mental separation from reality that causes a person to pick up a gun and kill 20 children.

I get no satisfaction from arguing with the fat, retarded kid in the neighborhood. TA can continue to club you upside the head with reality, although obviously he is wasting his time.

Be careful out there on the "mean streets" of Brampton, Ontario. The hardened criminals may not have "deescalated" and left their slingshots at home.

Lol your not even acknowledging what I'm saying, at best you got a weak personal attack when I'm obviously more right than you.

The reason you don't fear the tamils or the nates is because they aren't packing heat.

If not you've never really spent any time with drunken nates.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 10:51:49 AM
What are the latest figures of black population in Switzerland?  :D
Ironic the swiss rank rather poorly for a white country.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 15, 2012, 10:55:24 AM
Let's compare them by firearm ownership who else comes close to having 300 millions guns , the number for the US is low considering that fact.


it's not how many guns are in circulation, it's how many people actively use them to kill someone. you can only shoot one gun at a time....two if you are skilled.  My brother has 25 guns, there are survivalists with fucking armories in their basement. but they aren't the problem, it's the criminals with a handgun tucked in their waist


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 10:56:38 AM
Ironic the swiss rank rather poorly for a white country.
::)

Yes, because 0.93 deaths out of 100,000 is really poor.

Number of guns per capita by country per 100 residents.

United States    88.8    1    
 Serbia    58.2    2    
 Yemen    54.8    3    
 Switzerland    45.7    4    


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 10:58:33 AM
::)

Yes, because 0.93 deaths out of 100,000 is really poor.

Number of guns per capita by country per 100 residents.

United States    88.8    1    
 Serbia    58.2    2    
 Yemen    54.8    3    
 Switzerland    45.7    4    
Yemen ain't white, serbia just went through a genocide, and america is fucked.

Go back to the graphic you posted the swiss are at the top of the list in rich europe.

The brits use to be the worst in europe but have become one of the best after getting rid of their guns.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 15, 2012, 10:58:59 AM

it's not how many guns are in circulation, it's how many people actively use them to kill someone. you can only shoot one gun at a time....two if you are skilled.  My brother has 25 guns, there are survivalists with fucking armories in their basement. but they aren't the problem, it's the criminals with a handgun tucked in their waist
Spot on.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 11:00:33 AM
Yemen ain't white, serbia just went through a genocide, and america is fucked.

Go back to the graphic you posted the swiss are at the top of the list in rich europe.

The brits use to be the worst in europe but have become one of the best after getting rid of their guns.

Brits have become the best at what?  Maximizing the homicide rate despite a ban on firearms?  :D

(http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/england.png)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 15, 2012, 11:00:55 AM

The brits use to be the worst in europe but have become one of the best after getting rid of their guns.


Not saying it is related, but the British govt is now putting people in jail for saying nasty words on the internet.  Brits have little to no real freedom now.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 11:02:23 AM

it's not how many guns are in circulation, it's how many people actively use them to kill someone. you can only shoot one gun at a time....two if you are skilled.  My brother has 25 guns, there are survivalists with fucking armories in their basement. but they aren't the problem, it's the criminals with a handgun tucked in their waist

I agree , it's how many people own them as well and considering the amount of personal firearms ownership that number is low , relatively speaking

Obviously we're gonna be higher than other first world countries that have complete bans


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 11:06:33 AM
Brits have become the best at what?  Maximizing the homicide rate despite a ban on firearms?  :D

(http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/england.png)


http://www.economist.com/node/21559646

Gun crime has plummeted there in recent years, even your graph show  the start of the decline.

The law didn't make shit magically happen, it took time for shit to get filtered down.

Gun laws don't stop criminals from buying guns, as they are typically used guns in the first place. It's a shortage of guns on the used market that controls homicide, which is why there will always be a delay.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 11:09:40 AM
Actually violent crimes went up after the ban .


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 11:10:15 AM

http://www.economist.com/node/21559646

Gun crime has plummeted there in recent years, even your graph show  the start of the decline.

The law didn't make shit magically happen, it took time for shit to get filtered down.

Gun laws don't stop criminals from buying guns, as they are typically used guns in the first place. It's a shortage of guns on the used market that controls homicide, which is why there will always be a delay.
Then whats the point of banning them?  :D

Furthermore, I have no clue what you are talking about here - a shortage of guns on the used market that controls homicide -

What the hell does that even mean?  ???


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 11:13:48 AM
Actually violent crimes went up after the ban .

http://www.economist.com/node/21559646 did you even read this article.

Regardless your numbers contradict TA's explain.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 11:15:53 AM
http://www.economist.com/node/21559646 did you even read this article.

Regardless your numbers contradict TA's explain.
No they don`t.  :D


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 11:18:54 AM
No they don`t.  :D
How has violent crime gone up?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
How has violent crime gone up?
Violent Crime and Homicides are two totally different things.  ;)  Try to follow along.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: BDsauce on December 15, 2012, 11:23:30 AM
Wonder when the movie starts "shooting?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 11:27:46 AM
Wonder when the movie starts "shooting?
I hear it will be a real "blast".


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 11:40:00 AM
Violent Crime and Homicides are two totally different things.  ;)  Try to follow along.
I got that, which is I ask how has it gone up, I was expecting a graph, anyhow it's the other guy's error I mentioned something specially about gun crime, and he side tracked without acknowledging it.

Anyhow I'm out my wrist is fucking killing me to much typing it appears.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Quickerblade on December 15, 2012, 11:42:48 AM
Wonder when the movie starts "shooting?
Who will play the "Hero" adults that saved the kids lives


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Twaddle on December 15, 2012, 11:44:22 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kXnVoQ9ZFkQ/SYKeG9ua4FI/AAAAAAAAHTk/VXs6XE-SVeo/s400/my+googlefu+is+strong.jpg)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: 240 is Back on December 15, 2012, 11:45:30 AM
in ANY situation like that - seriously - everyone in the room should do the same thing.  Pick up ANY weapon and attack the shooter.

Pen stabs to neck.  He might hit 2 of you with bullets but the other 1 or 2 or 3 of you will stab the fcker in the neck, minimizing how much damage he can do.

IN a closed environment like that, your only option is to ATTACK at the first moment.  That's it.  You see a gun, you fcking ATTACK.  Everyone here should program themselves to that.  You freeze and he starts killing those around him.  Better to come in low with something stabby.  He might hit you, he might not, but then you're both on the ground so others can pile on.  Then you can take his gun, crush his head with about 50 kicks, etc. 

Seriously, everyone should evaluate what they'd do- and what they should do.  The best way to proteect isn't to use your flesh as a shield - those bullets will sail right though.  You aren't made of metal.  ATTACK is your only chance at survival.  You pick up a book, a pen, a fish tank, you pull the car keys from your pocket - and you ain for the NECK.   You grab, you stab and you keep stabbing until your arms cramps out.  No bullshit here.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 15, 2012, 12:02:03 PM
Lol your not even acknowledging what I'm saying, at best you got a weak personal attack when I'm obviously more right than you.

The reason you don't fear the tamils or the nates is because they aren't packing heat.

If not you've never really spent any time with drunken nates.

I grew up next to a reservation, to compare drunken, lazy, unemployed Indians to an inner city gang, or drug cartel is nothing more than naive and stupid. You are some type of shut-in with very limited real world and social experiences, that is obvious. You are a lemming that will do exactly what your government tells you, and live in some other alternate reality on the Internet.

Gun laws, gun control, gun bans are not the underlying issue in this tragedy, mental illness is. You don't seem to be able to comprehend that. Your correlation to the argument is what works in Canada will work in the U.S., as a blanket statement. Aurora Colorado had gun bans, no shooting ordinances, and the theater had a gun ban. The shooter in that instance went to that specific theater, for that reason.

With all respect to the deceased, they were specifically targeted by this maniac because they were the easiest target and would get him maximum media exposure. You sure as hell don't see these fuckhead gunmen breaking into a biker bar and shooting up the patrons. I wonder why that is?

In the end, the difference between you and I is, if the worst were ever to occur, I won't be relying on someone else to keep me from being a victim. It is my right, and no spineless, liberal politician will put me or my family in danger, or at risk just to garner votes or win political favor. You are a lemming, you will do what the agenda-driven media tells you.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 15, 2012, 12:05:18 PM
in ANY situation like that - seriously - everyone in the room should do the same thing.  Pick up ANY weapon and attack the shooter.

Pen stabs to neck.  He might hit 2 of you with bullets but the other 1 or 2 or 3 of you will stab the fcker in the neck, minimizing how much damage he can do.

IN a closed environment like that, your only option is to ATTACK at the first moment.  That's it.  You see a gun, you fcking ATTACK.  Everyone here should program themselves to that.  You freeze and he starts killing those around him.  Better to come in low with something stabby.  He might hit you, he might not, but then you're both on the ground so others can pile on.  Then you can take his gun, crush his head with about 50 kicks, etc. 

Seriously, everyone should evaluate what they'd do- and what they should do.  The best way to proteect isn't to use your flesh as a shield - those bullets will sail right though.  You aren't made of metal.  ATTACK is your only chance at survival.  You pick up a book, a pen, a fish tank, you pull the car keys from your pocket - and you ain for the NECK.   You grab, you stab and you keep stabbing until your arms cramps out.  No bullshit here.

No.

Plain and simple. You get the innocent 5 year old kids to safety first and foremost.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: 240 is Back on December 15, 2012, 12:10:57 PM
No.

Plain and simple. You get the innocent 5 year old kids to safety first and foremost.

in a classroom, there's only one in/out.   I taught for years, there was very rarely an emergency exit in any room.  The one door in was the one door out.

that guy is gonna shoot until everyone is dead, or until he's taken down.  The ONLY way to save the lives is to get the dude down.  Sad but true.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: che on December 15, 2012, 12:11:36 PM
in ANY situation like that - seriously - everyone in the room should do the same thing.  Pick up ANY weapon and attack the shooter.

Pen stabs to neck.  He might hit 2 of you with bullets but the other 1 or 2 or 3 of you will stab the fcker in the neck, minimizing how much damage he can do.

IN a closed environment like that, your only option is to ATTACK at the first moment.  That's it.  You see a gun, you fcking ATTACK.  Everyone here should program themselves to that.  You freeze and he starts killing those around him.  Better to come in low with something stabby.  He might hit you, he might not, but then you're both on the ground so others can pile on.  Then you can take his gun, crush his head with about 50 kicks, etc. 

Seriously, everyone should evaluate what they'd do- and what they should do.  The best way to proteect isn't to use your flesh as a shield - those bullets will sail right though.  You aren't made of metal.  ATTACK is your only chance at survival.  You pick up a book, a pen, a fish tank, you pull the car keys from your pocket - and you ain for the NECK.   You grab, you stab and you keep stabbing until your arms cramps out.  No bullshit here.

OK Rambo  ::)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 15, 2012, 12:13:45 PM
in a classroom, there's only one in/out.   I taught for years, there was very rarely an emergency exit in any room.  The one door in was the one door out.

that guy is gonna shoot until everyone is dead, or until he's taken down.  The ONLY way to save the lives is to get the dude down.  Sad but true.

The best strategy is to fall to your knees like a simpering peasant and accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior.  If you die it means you didn't pray hard enough or Jesus doesn't particularly care for you.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 15, 2012, 12:14:43 PM
The best strategy is to fall to your knees like a simpering peasant and accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior.  If you die it means you didn't pray hard enough or Jesus doesn't particularly care for you.
Actually it means it's gods will that you needed to die.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 15, 2012, 12:15:02 PM
Actually it means it's gods will that you needed to die.

That too.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 15, 2012, 12:17:24 PM
in a classroom, there's only one in/out.   I taught for years, there was very rarely an emergency exit in any room.  The one door in was the one door out.

that guy is gonna shoot until everyone is dead, or until he's taken down.  The ONLY way to save the lives is to get the dude down.  Sad but true.

Then break the windows out and usher the kids out into the schoolyard. Release the children en masse and tell them to run for any exit they can find. Use the chaos to your advantage. Retreating into a classroom and having 8 year olds attack an armed man is sheer lunacy.

Get the kids to safety. If you want to stand your ground after that, it's your choice.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: B_B_C on December 15, 2012, 12:21:13 PM
The best strategy is to fall to your knees like a simpering peasant and accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior.  If you die it means you didn't pray hard enough or Jesus doesn't particularly care for you.

“this is no time to be making enemies."
Voltaire on his deathbed when asked to renounce the devil



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 15, 2012, 12:22:19 PM
“this is no time to be making enemies."
Voltaire on his deathbed when asked to renounce the devil



Smart man and a great quote!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: che on December 15, 2012, 12:23:49 PM
I love how  getbiggers know EXACTLY what to do in any situation .


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: 240 is Back on December 15, 2012, 12:26:34 PM
Then break the windows out and usher the kids out into the schoolyard. Release the children en masse and tell them to run for any exit they can find. Use the chaos to your advantage. Retreating into a classroom and having 8 year olds attack an armed man is sheer lunacy.

Get the kids to safety. If you want to stand your ground after that, it's your choice.

20 kids.... the killer had 2 handguns... classrooms are small, maybe 30 by 30 feet.   nobody is getting out the window.  the shooting will be done in 30 to 60 seconds.

I'm not saying any kids should be attacking.  I'm saying if there's 1-2 teachers in the classroom, their first instinct NEEDS to be pick up scissors or car keys or just fists, and to attack the guy.  "breaking a window and climbing out" ain't gonna happen.  It's just not.  There's a VERY low survival chance if this dude is intent on killing everyone in room.  The ONLY chance is to disarm him.

I dont claim to be tough, and I'd prbably be dead today too - but the whole time I was a teacher (7 years), I planned what weapon in what corner of the room I'd use to bum rush any one who came in shooting.  I'd place a heavy metal or other item at all 4 corners and in the middle- and every time that door opened, i'd glance.  

those poor teachers that died were heroes, I believe.  The whole situation is beyond sad.  but I think teachers should be trained to attack the fck out of an armed shooter - better to die on your feet trying to inflict a wound on the shooter, than to just pay on floor and wait for him to choose.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 15, 2012, 12:27:34 PM
I love how  getbiggers know EXACTLY what to do in any situation .

Getbigger Pre-School = every student armed with Chinese throwing stars and nunchuks.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2012, 12:32:05 PM
My random thoughts regarding gun control and violence in the U.S.

The shooter in Connecticut likely had a psychotic break (went nuts). We can discuss gun control all we like, but that won't change the fact that there will always be someone who loses it and does something crazy like shoot up a school house full of kids, bomb a building or run through a shopping mall killing innocent unsuspecting strangers.

It would be great if we lived in a world where there were no weapons and no violence. But to think that is going to happen any time soon. I do believe there is no reason private citizens need to own or keep assault weapons and that they should be illegal. I also believe that if someone wants to commit an act of violence, for whatever reason, they will figure out a way to do it, guns or no guns. People have been killing each other since the beginning of time. We can't seem to shake our primitive violent behavior.

It isn't clear to me why the U.S. should have a higher per capita incidence of violent deaths. More gun controls might help and they might change nothing. For the most part we are a nation of independents, meaning we don't do much personally to help each other out. Because it is unpopular and expensive to institutionalize the insane, many of them walk our streets. In many families, even when someone is in desperate straights we don't help them or give them a leg up, the best we can do is send them to the welfare office or direct them to some shelter. I have been in other developed countries and it doesn't seem to be this way everywhere. However, U.S. culture is often a pacesetter for the rest of the world in that what happens here becomes popular elsewhere. If that is true, then we are all headed in the wrong direction the world over.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 12:39:15 PM
That too.
He needed his 20 little angels in heaven and not on earth.  ::)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 15, 2012, 12:49:16 PM
in ANY situation like that - seriously - everyone in the room should do the same thing.  Pick up ANY weapon and attack the shooter.

Pen stabs to neck.  He might hit 2 of you with bullets but the other 1 or 2 or 3 of you will stab the fcker in the neck, minimizing how much damage he can do.

IN a closed environment like that, your only option is to ATTACK at the first moment.  That's it.  You see a gun, you fcking ATTACK.  Everyone here should program themselves to that.  You freeze and he starts killing those around him.  Better to come in low with something stabby.  He might hit you, he might not, but then you're both on the ground so others can pile on.  Then you can take his gun, crush his head with about 50 kicks, etc.  

Seriously, everyone should evaluate what they'd do- and what they should do.  The best way to proteect isn't to use your flesh as a shield - those bullets will sail right though.  You aren't made of metal.  ATTACK is your only chance at survival.  You pick up a book, a pen, a fish tank, you pull the car keys from your pocket - and you ain for the NECK.   You grab, you stab and you keep stabbing until your arms cramps out.  No bullshit here.

Attacking is an instinct you are born with imop. And most aren't born with this instinct. We've all seen video's of a cops first instinct to run for their lives when someone pulls out a gun and starts shooting. And these are people who are trained to fight.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 15, 2012, 12:51:57 PM
20 kids.... the killer had 2 handguns... classrooms are small, maybe 30 by 30 feet.   nobody is getting out the window.  the shooting will be done in 30 to 60 seconds.

I'm not saying any kids should be attacking.  I'm saying if there's 1-2 teachers in the classroom, their first instinct NEEDS to be pick up scissors or car keys or just fists, and to attack the guy.  "breaking a window and climbing out" ain't gonna happen.  It's just not.  There's a VERY low survival chance if this dude is intent on killing everyone in room.  The ONLY chance is to disarm him.

I dont claim to be tough, and I'd prbably be dead today too - but the whole time I was a teacher (7 years), I planned what weapon in what corner of the room I'd use to bum rush any one who came in shooting.  I'd place a heavy metal or other item at all 4 corners and in the middle- and every time that door opened, i'd glance.  

those poor teachers that died were heroes, I believe.  The whole situation is beyond sad.  but I think teachers should be trained to attack the fck out of an armed shooter - better to die on your feet trying to inflict a wound on the shooter, than to just pay on floor and wait for him to choose.

Not knowing the architecture of the school, the windows may cover an entire wall, giving an adequate escape route.

You're missing the point, when the shooting started, get the kids out immediately. Don't sit in the classroom waiting for the gunman to come to you.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 15, 2012, 12:52:44 PM
in a classroom, there's only one in/out.   I taught for years, there was very rarely an emergency exit in any room.  The one door in was the one door out.

that guy is gonna shoot until everyone is dead, or until he's taken down.  The ONLY way to save the lives is to get the dude down.  Sad but true.

Although teachers aren't taught to go out windows, locking the door and throwing a chair threw a window is probably your best bet if you hear gun shots in a hallway.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: 240 is Back on December 15, 2012, 12:53:01 PM
Attacking is an instinct you are born with imop. And most aren't born with this instinct. We've all seen video's of cops running for their lives when someone pulls out a gun and starts shooting. And these are people who are trained to fight.

it can probably be trained in people who would otherwise run.  Once they understand the % chances of survival of lying on floor vs fighting, that might help.  I dunno.

I do know that when someone wakes me up suddenly in middle of night, I tend to attack out of habit, instinct, whatever.  I've nearly given the wifey a black eye on occasion :)  If I get startled or shook while sleeping, I get aggressive to defend.  Of course, I'ma paranoid militant type, uncomfy in most places and definitely wolf not sheep.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: che on December 15, 2012, 12:53:17 PM
Attacking is an instinct you are born with imop. And most aren't born with this instinct. We've all seen video's of cops running for their lives when someone pulls out a gun and starts shooting. And these are people who are trained to fight.
240 is just talking out of his ass .


''Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.''
                                                                                   Mike Tyson


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: 240 is Back on December 15, 2012, 12:54:40 PM
Not knowing the architecture of the school, the windows may cover an entire wall, giving an adequate escape route.

You're missing the point, when the shooting started, get the kids out immediately. Don't sit in the classroom waiting for the gunman to come to you.

sorry, i agree with you there - I was referring to situation where shooter was inside my classroom and i have 30 seconds to live.

if he's in hallway, i baracade kids or escape, whichever feasible, and then fight if he tries entry.  I was talking about the gunfight IN the room.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 15, 2012, 12:56:47 PM
My random thoughts regarding gun control and violence in the U.S.

The shooter in Connecticut likely had a psychotic break (went nuts). We can discuss gun control all we like, but that won't change the fact that there will always be someone who loses it and does something crazy like shoot up a school house full of kids, bomb a building or run through a shopping mall killing innocent unsuspecting strangers.

It would be great if we lived in a world where there were no weapons and no violence. But to think that is going to happen any time soon. I do believe there is no reason private citizens need to own or keep assault weapons and that they should be illegal. I also believe that if someone wants to commit an act of violence, for whatever reason, they will figure out a way to do it, guns or no guns. People have been killing each other since the beginning of time. We can't seem to shake our primitive violent behavior.

It isn't clear to me why the U.S. should have a higher per capita incidence of violent deaths. More gun controls might help and they might change nothing. For the most part we are a nation of independents, meaning we don't do much personally to help each other out. Because it is unpopular and expensive to institutionalize the insane, many of them walk our streets. In many families, even when someone is in desperate straights we don't help them or give them a leg up, the best we can do is send them to the welfare office or direct them to some shelter. I have been in other developed countries and it doesn't seem to be this way everywhere. However, U.S. culture is often a pacesetter for the rest of the world in that what happens here becomes popular elsewhere. If that is true, then we are all headed in the wrong direction the world over.



Most Americans don't realize this but, this tragedy isn't even the worst massacre of schoolchildren ever. In Bath Michigan more kids were killed and NOT ONE gun was used.

But let's keep blaming guns and not the crazy fuckers pulling the triggers.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 15, 2012, 12:56:51 PM
it can probably be trained in people who would otherwise run.  Once they understand the % chances of survival of lying on floor vs fighting, that might help.  I dunno.

I do know that when someone wakes me up suddenly in middle of night, I tend to attack out of habit, instinct, whatever.  I've nearly given the wifey a black eye on occasion :)  If I get startled or shook while sleeping, I get aggressive to defend.  Of course, I'ma paranoid militant type, uncomfy in most places and definitely wolf not sheep.

Video of highly trained officer running for cover. Shit happens way too fast. If someone has a gun pointed at you from a distance of over 10 feet, moving toward the gun is in most cases suicide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6wbemaRZoY


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The_Punisher on December 15, 2012, 12:58:26 PM
will this latest Tragedy in American schools change things?........Probably not.....we will keep seeing the same catastrophy from time to time and the Second Amendment will remain the Winner in this battle......I will keep my two Guns.....my records are clean and I'm a responsible owner....I can't speak for others


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 15, 2012, 12:59:57 PM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Quickerblade on December 15, 2012, 01:00:06 PM
NEWTOWN, Conn. –  Town officials in Connecticut say the principal who died in the rampage at an elementary school was killed while lunging at the gunman as she tried to overtake him. Yep of course she did, town officials witnessed this did they.

Dawn Hochsprung was gunned down in Friday's massacre in Newtown. Board of Education chairwoman Debbie Liedlien says administrators were coming out of a meeting when the gunman forced his way into the school and ran toward him. Dawn is not smart.

Jeff Capeci (kuh-PEE'-chee) is chairman of the town's Legislative Council. Asked whether Hochsprung is a hero, he says, "From what we know, it's hard to classify her as anything else." Jeff is making shit up.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/15/connecticut-school-principal-died-lunging-at-gunman-officials-say/#ixzz2F9iZ3NI4


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 15, 2012, 01:02:10 PM
Cops instinct to run saved his life here. If the cop went at the guy when the guy pulled the gun, the cop probably would have been dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szf6VldxSgY


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 15, 2012, 01:03:54 PM
will this latest Tragedy in American schools change things?........Probably not.....we will keep seeing the same catastrophy from time to time and the Second Amendment will remain the Winner in this battle......I will keep my two Guns.....my records are clean and I'm a responsible owner....I can't speak for others

[Troll Voice] I think what liberals are telling gun owners is to shoot every fucking socially inept, smart, nerdy male you see between the ages of 17-24 in case they turn out to be mass murderers. [Troll Voice]


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2012, 01:19:07 PM
240 is just talking out of his ass .


''Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.''
                                                                                   Mike Tyson

Excellent quote.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 15, 2012, 05:32:44 PM
In Bath Michigan more kids were killed and NOT ONE gun was used.

He did use a gun to detonate a bomb!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 05:36:46 PM
He did use a gun to detonate a bomb!

Not the one that killed the children


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 15, 2012, 05:55:19 PM
So the gun industry is to blame for the acts of lunatics?  ???
No, they are to blame for making it possible for LUNATICS to kill masses of people in a short period of time!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 15, 2012, 05:59:25 PM
You cower in the corner and hope for the best. I don't mind people who don't want to own a gun , but to say I can't , seriously
But doesn't America prevent other countries from developing NUKES or other weapons of Mass destruction.  If these inanimate objects don't kill people, what are they so afraid of.  Why restrict ownership of anything then? If I can responsibly own a nuclear device, what's the problem?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 06:10:11 PM
But doesn't America prevent other countries from developing NUKES or other weapons of Mass destruction.  If these inanimate objects don't kill people, what are they so afraid of.  Why restrict ownership of anything then? If I can responsibly own a nuclear device, what's the problem?

Beyond lame , not even worthy of a response.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 06:11:43 PM
No, they are to blame for making it possible for LUNATICS to kill masses of people in a short period of time!

Keep trying to shift the responsibility to everyone and everything other than the asshole who did this.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: arce1988 on December 15, 2012, 06:15:33 PM
Why? ()

 
Because people are


fucking incomprehensible.


"Why?"




Michael Clayton


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 15, 2012, 06:16:02 PM
Why? ()

 
Because people are


fucking incomprehensible.


"Why?"




Michael Clayton

Awesome movie.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: MikMaq on December 15, 2012, 06:38:35 PM
No, they are to blame for making it possible for LUNATICS to kill masses of people in a short period of time!
Dudes no lunatic, it was essentially a suicide. A dramatic suicide but still a suicide.

These's aren't crimes of lunes, there by people that are quite sane.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 15, 2012, 06:54:08 PM
I think America is at a crossroad, if they refuse to change now, this is what they can look forward to from now on, it will be unsafe to go to the Shopping Mall, the Movie theatre, the School, the Grocery store, essentially, their will be nowhere you can be safe.  And all for what, so some lunatics can go to the shooting range and enhance their deficient personalities, pathetic egos and lack of manhood by shooting at targets.  America has become a perverse parody of what a Good Country should be, they are the least FREE, the least SAFE, the least CARING, the least ENLIGHTENED of all the first world countries.  They have become the laughing stock of the First World.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:55:26 PM
Grandpa always thought America was at a crossroads, but he always said that is what made America Great.  No matter which road you cross, you are still in America.

No better words to live by than those.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 06:56:49 PM
I think America is at a crossroad, if they refuse to change now, this is what they can look forward to from now on, it will be unsafe to go to the Shopping Mall, the Movie theatre, the School, the Grocery store, essentially, their will be nowhere you can be safe.  And all for what, so some lunatics can go to the shooting range and enhance their deficient personalities, pathetic egos and lack of manhood by shooting at targets.  America has become a perverse parody of what a Good Country should be, they are the least FREE, the least SAFE, the least CARING, the least ENLIGHTENED of all the first world countries.  They have become the laughing stock of the First World.
Grandpa used to pick the boys up from little league and take them camping with a quick stop for ice cream.  Do that nowadays and you end up in jail.  Its a sign of the times.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 15, 2012, 07:02:08 PM
Grandpa always thought America was at a crossroads, but he always said that is what made America Great.  No matter which road you cross, you are still in America.

No better words to live by than those.
Masses of children aren't brutally murdered while at school in Great Countries! Grandpa was an idiot!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:05:05 PM
Masses of children aren't brutally murdered while at school in Great Countries! Grandpa was an idiot!
Grandpa always said if anyone was going to do a mass shooting, it would be the japs.  Turns out he was right afterall.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 15, 2012, 07:05:33 PM
Grandpa always said if anyone was going to do a mass shooting, it would be the japs.  Turns out he was right afterall.

El oh fucking el.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 15, 2012, 07:06:50 PM
Grandpa always said if anyone was going to do a mass shooting, it would be the japs.  Turns out he was right afterall.
Grandma always said Grandpa was a senile old fool who spoke nothing but Nonsense.  Turns out she was right after all!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2012, 07:12:56 PM
Keep trying to shift the responsibility to everyone and everything other than the asshole who did this.

I don't think we are talking about blame so much as prevention. There is little value in blaming someone for something. It hasn't been proven to deter others from going off the deep end and killing hoards of people.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 15, 2012, 07:15:50 PM
The Mother was a GUN NUTTER, so much for having Guns for protection, she was murdered with her own GUN.  You would have to be pretty NAIVE to think owning guns makes you SAFER, it makes you more vulnerable, just like the studies show.  Gun Ownership is more likely to get you killed or seriously injured.  Gun Nutters aren't too bright though, and ruled by their obsessive drives.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: viking1 on December 15, 2012, 07:16:08 PM
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Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:22:23 PM
Grandpa taught us all at young age how to polish his rifle.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 15, 2012, 07:24:50 PM
Grandpa taught us all at young age how to polish his rifle.

yes Adonis please regale us with more stories of your dear old granpappy  :)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 15, 2012, 07:27:27 PM
Grandpa taught us all at young age how to polish his rifle.
What! You polished your GRANDPAS RIFLE!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:29:17 PM
yes Adonis please regale us with more stories of your dear old granpappy  :)
Grandpas legacy will definitely carry on to the next generation and I will see to it that every story gets told.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2012, 07:32:23 PM
What! You polished your GRANDPAS RIFLE!
This is one of the most useful things a man can learn, especially when taught by a Grandpa with experience.  Grandpa was at Guadalcanal and had the cleanest rifle in the whole company.  It was an honor to polish his rifle. That is, if he even asked you to do it.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: AbrahamG on December 15, 2012, 07:35:39 PM
Stop already. LMFAO


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: da_vinci on December 15, 2012, 07:37:22 PM

Growing atheism is why suicide rates are increasing both in north america and europe among teens AND adults. And to think there's an economic depression that's coming.

Do you realize that what are you saying is: "Growing overall education is why suicide rates are increasing both in north america and europe among teens AND adults. And to think there's an economic depression that's coming."

It's either that or you actually don't know what the word "atheist" means. Atheism is NOT an ideology or a conscious "choice", just like a kid who reached an age of reason and figured that parents and NOT Santa puts these gifts under an x-mass tree (a process of education/constructive thinking happened and thus - a realization, that's more in tact with an actual reality) - he won't be able to "believe in santa" once again, no matter what. You won't continue to crawl after you learn how to walk, as a baby, unless you are mentally ill to begin with.


White people will survive, black people will survive or muslims will occupy the world...  Basically - just kill each other till' the strongest and smartest wins and life prevails once again (by destroying other life)... round and round.. Very christian, very peaceful and very.............making sense.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 15, 2012, 07:37:30 PM
This is one of the most useful things a man can learn, especially when taught by a Grandpa with experience.  Grandpa was at Guadalcanal and had the cleanest rifle in the whole company.  It was an honor to polish his rifle. That is, if he even asked you to do it.
I am sure GRANDPA thoroughly enjoyed Children polishing his RIFLE!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 15, 2012, 07:39:35 PM
Actually, Communities were ATHEISTS are predominant have less homicides than religious communities, the majority of the UNITED STATES are religious, only a tiny fraction are atheists.  It is RELIGIOUS Communities that are the MOST violent.  


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: da_vinci on December 15, 2012, 07:51:06 PM
Actually, Communities were ATHEISTS are predominant have less homicides than religious communities, the majority of the UNITED STATES are religious, only a tiny fraction are atheists.  It is RELIGIOUS Communities that are the MOST violent.  

Statistics, performed by Gallup Media, some years ago, clearly show that in US jails, absolute majority of people refer themselve as "religious", mostly - christian/catholics (well, it's west, that's expected), while just a fraction considers themselves - atheists.

By these same statistics - 93% of members of National Science Academy of US are atheists, 7% - agnostics (and maybe a tiny fraction among these - somewhat religious and "believers").

More statistics: AN interesting correlation: the higher the average IQ of a country, the less people who believe in God, and vice versa (talk Africa).


I could continue, but basically what I wanted to say - before using a word ATHEIST - at least find the fukk out what does that mean.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 15, 2012, 08:29:50 PM
who would you rather save, these kids or the potus in that situation?

If I was the teacher?

The students safety would be my first priority, Secret Service could do their job and protect the pOTUS. If the Secret Service weren't present, the pOTUS better be helping me save the kids.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2012, 09:22:02 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/15/Report-Connecticut-Shooting-Was-A-Revenge-Killing


Need more details on this.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2012, 09:30:49 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/adam-lanzas-mom-pulled-school-relative/t/story?id=17985433


Undiagnosed mental illness.   


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: cephissus on December 15, 2012, 11:37:09 PM
This

''Mass killers tend to be profoundly frustrated and despondent over life's disappointments, isolated from family and friends who might be in a position to provide comfort and support, and see themselves as the victim of undeserved mistreatment and unfairness. For them, the act of murder against certain people seen as responsible for their misfortune, if not against a corrupt society in general, is justified. Successful and fulfilled people, by contrast, have little need for vengeance or reason to wreak havoc in such a dramatic and public fashion.

Mass murderers often reserve their last deadly round for themselves or stand ready to be killed by police at the scene. For many, especially older assailants who have endured long years of perceived mistreatment, life on Earth becomes meaningless. They are prepared to die so long as they first achieve sufficient payback by becoming the powerful one who gets to dispense the misery. Yet even those assailants who, like the accused shooter in Colorado, willingly surrender do so knowing that they had successfully accomplished their mission: not only have they shared the pain, but they established themselves as a fearsome and dominant force in the eyes of the world.


So if there is a common pattern to these shootings and those responsible for the carnage, what does that suggest about predictability and prevention? Unfortunately, not much is readily available to help reduce the risk.

The difficult and sad truth is that thousands upon thousands of Americans share these same characteristics. There is a vast pool of people who fail to reach their ambitions, blame others or "the system" for their troubles, and have inadequate social support, yet very few will pick up a gun in response. Although the mass killer profile is predictable, their exact identifies are not. Mass murderers often exhibit telltale warning signs in their behavior or words, but these become clear only with hindsight. These so-called "red flags" are actually yellow ones that turn red only after the bloodletting.

Tighter controls on firearms licensing and sales would help to curtail our nation's high rate of gun violence, but not neccessarily this extreme form of violence. The fact is that most mass murderers, despite their readiness for violence and psychological impairment, do not have official records of criminality or mental illness that would disqualify them from gun ownership.''




good post.

what if the "thousands" of disgruntled americans is actually "millions", in reality?

if these "mass killings" are symptomatic of widespread malaise, maybe they're actually helpful?

a "wake up" call for society, similar to pain-response in the body?  and we keep misinterpreting the shootings, or pain-response, as evil, because they are unpleasant?

anyone consider this?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: cephissus on December 15, 2012, 11:40:49 PM
Do you realize that what are you saying is: "Growing overall education is why suicide rates are increasing both in north america and europe among teens AND adults. And to think there's an economic depression that's coming."

And?

What's your point?

???


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 15, 2012, 11:46:00 PM
good post.

what if the "thousands" of disgruntled americans is actually "millions", in reality?

if these "mass killings" are symptomatic of widespread malaise, maybe they're actually helpful?

a "wake up" call for society, similar to pain-response in the body?  and we keep misinterpreting the shootings, or pain-response, as evil, because they are unpleasant?

anyone consider this?
Yes, the shootings are a sign of a desperately mentally ILL Society and CULTURE, comprised of people with strange ideologies, skewed priorities and a fundamental lack of concern for anyone else but themselves.  From an outsiders perspective, America seems like a terrible place to live, full of violence, extremists and sociopaths.  The average American seems delusional, fearful. angry, self obsessed and lacking in reasonableness and intelligence.  JMO


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: cephissus on December 15, 2012, 11:49:48 PM
Yes, the shootings are a sign of a desperately mentally ILL Society and CULTURE, comprised of people with strange ideologies, skewed priorities and a fundamental lack of concern for anyone else but themselves.  From an outsiders perspective, America seems like a terrible place to live, full of violence, extremists and sociopaths.  The average American seems delusional, fearful. angry, self obsessed and lacking in reasonableness and intelligence.  JMO

I'm glad you agree.

All I have to add is that, from an insider's perspective, American can be pretty awesome ;D


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 16, 2012, 12:03:27 AM
The year with the most mass murders was 1929.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 16, 2012, 04:33:13 AM
I think America is at a crossroad, if they refuse to change now, this is what they can look forward to from now on, it will be unsafe to go to the Shopping Mall, the Movie theatre, the School, the Grocery store, essentially, their will be nowhere you can be safe.  And all for what, so some lunatics can go to the shooting range and enhance their deficient personalities, pathetic egos and lack of manhood by shooting at targets.  America has become a perverse parody of what a Good Country should be, they are the least FREE, the least SAFE, the least CARING, the least ENLIGHTENED of all the first world countries.  They have become the laughing stock of the First World.

You sound just like the nutts you're lamenting about. You're obsessed with America , American politics and American people , you already admitted you don't give a damn about the children who died all you're doing is trolling and speaking on topics you have no experience with at all

As American we don't care what Australia thinks about us of the rest of the world. Worry about your country instead of obsessing on ours.




Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2012, 04:35:57 AM
You sound just like the nutts you're lamenting about. You're obsessed with America , American politics and American people , you already admitted you don't give a damn about the children who died all you're doing is trolling and speaking on topics you have no experience with at all

As American we don't care what Australia thinks about us of the rest of the world. Worry about your country instead of obsessing on ours.





In a nation of 300 million people , unless we have a communist repressive society, bullshit is going to happen. 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 16, 2012, 04:37:41 AM
Masses of children aren't brutally murdered while at school in Great Countries! Grandpa was an idiot!

Stop crying crocodile tears for the children you already admitted you didn't give a damn about them , you're like the opportunistic vultures who smells blood after a tragedy like this to spout your bullshit. You're to obsessed with America


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 16, 2012, 04:50:25 AM
Stop crying crocodile tears for the children you already admitted you didn't give a damn about them , you're like the opportunistic vultures who smells blood after a tragedy like this to spout your bullshit. You're to obsessed with America
Grandpa always said their would always be folk who will stubbornly hold on to ideas and beliefs, even when they know their wrong!  Grandpa said most fools were dedicated to staying that way!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Kane89 on December 16, 2012, 04:53:55 AM
The List of Discrepancies:
List of Discrepancies (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2082704/pg1)


The Medical Examiner:
Medical Examiner (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2082381/pg1)


 :( :( :(


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 16, 2012, 05:15:40 AM

So far this year, more than 140 people have been killed or injured in mass shootings in the United States.

There have been 70 mass shootings in America between 1982 and 2012, and of those seven occurred this year

45 per cent of those killed in mass shootings in the past 30 years were killed since 2007.

Each year nearly 100,000 people are wounded or killed by gunfire in America

A million people have been killed since the assassinations of Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy in 1968.



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2012, 05:19:59 AM
Most are Gangbangers and druggies.    Take out urban yute crime from da hood and you get a much different picture.



So far this year, more than 140 people have been killed or injured in mass shootings in the United States.

There have been 70 mass shootings in America between 1982 and 2012, and of those seven occurred this year

45 per cent of those killed in mass shootings in the past 30 years were killed since 2007.

Each year nearly 100,000 people are wounded or killed by gunfire in America

A million people have been killed since the assassinations of Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy in 1968.




Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 16, 2012, 05:32:26 AM
Grandpa always said their would always be folk who will stubbornly hold on to ideas and beliefs, even when they know their wrong!  Grandpa said most fools were dedicated to staying that way!

Keep worrying about America  ;)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 16, 2012, 05:38:07 AM
So far this year, more than 140 people have been killed or injured in mass shootings in the United States.

There have been 70 mass shootings in America between 1982 and 2012, and of those seven occurred this year

45 per cent of those killed in mass shootings in the past 30 years were killed since 2007.

Each year nearly 100,000 people are wounded or killed by gunfire in America

A million people have been killed since the assassinations of Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy in 1968.



This year 440 THOUSAND died from cigarettes PER YEAR yet I don't see you screaming for their ban , you have an agenda

Smoking kills more people than alcohol, AIDS, car crashes, illegal drugs, murders, and suicides combined — and thousands more die from other tobacco-related causes — such as fires caused by smoking (more than 1,000 deaths/year nationwide) and smokeless tobacco use.

Keep worrying about us , we like that you get so emotional



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: garebear on December 16, 2012, 06:28:33 AM
Since we're not allowed to politicize people that have died in shootings, I would like to propose we do something for those of you that will die in the near future from the next (apparently) unavoidable mass murder. Since you are still alive, and walking around for a while, I think it's okay to talk about you. Sorry you're going to get killed, but guns don't kill people, people do. Please remember that when you have a weapon pointed at you.

And don’t tarnish our gun laws with your memory. Just remember, your death is in the constitution and we don’t want to hear you whining about anything. One of these days, someone is going to stop one of these shootings with the 300 million guns available. Sorry it isn’t your mass murder that will be prevented, and it probably won’t be the next one, or the one after that, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles.

Slave-owners from the 18th century, with an infinite wisdom that will never bend to the trendy anti-murder crowd, made the rules. Who are we to change them?

Above all, I would like you to go quietly. Sure, our thoughts and prayers will go out to you after you’ve bled out, but after a couple of days, we’ll be back to business as usual.  We’ve got gun shows to attend, thank you very much.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 16, 2012, 06:40:02 AM
Since we're not allowed to politicize people that have died in shootings, I would like to propose we do something for those of you that will die in the near future from the next (apparently) unavoidable mass murder. Since you are still alive, and walking around for a while, I think it's okay to talk about you. Sorry you're going to get killed, but guns don't kill people, people do. Please remember that when you have a weapon pointed at you.

And don’t tarnish our gun laws with your memory. Just remember, your death is in the constitution and we don’t want to hear you whining about anything. One of these days, someone is going to stop one of these shootings with the 300 million guns available. Sorry it isn’t your mass murder that will be prevented, and it probably won’t be the next one, or the one after that, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles.

Slave-owners from the 18th century, with an infinite wisdom that will never bend to the trendy anti-murder crowd, made the rules. Who are we to change them?

Above all, I would like you to go quietly. Sure, our thoughts and prayers will go out to you after you’ve bled out, but after a couple of days, we’ll be back to business as usual.  We’ve got gun shows to attend, thank you very much.


guns are objects and are used to shoot paper targets, are you telling me you can kill people with them ?

that's really dangerous, and NOT what they were designed for !!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: da_vinci on December 16, 2012, 06:40:31 AM
And?

What's your point?

???

Education and people becoming more intelligent,in Ubermans mind is associated with a "negative" outcome (let's get back to middle ages.. No.. even better - about 500 B.C.).


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 16, 2012, 06:47:16 AM
guns are objects and are used to shoot paper targets, are you telling me you can kill people with them ?

that's really dangerous, and NOT what they were designed for !!

You can't escape the human element in firearms , a gun is a tool that has multiple uses it can be used correctly or abused that's all contingent on the human's desires



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Conker on December 16, 2012, 06:52:14 AM
Since we're not allowed to politicize people that have died in shootings, I would like to propose we do something for those of you that will die in the near future from the next (apparently) unavoidable mass murder. Since you are still alive, and walking around for a while, I think it's okay to talk about you. Sorry you're going to get killed, but guns don't kill people, people do. Please remember that when you have a weapon pointed at you.

And don’t tarnish our gun laws with your memory. Just remember, your death is in the constitution and we don’t want to hear you whining about anything. One of these days, someone is going to stop one of these shootings with the 300 million guns available. Sorry it isn’t your mass murder that will be prevented, and it probably won’t be the next one, or the one after that, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles.

Slave-owners from the 18th century, with an infinite wisdom that will never bend to the trendy anti-murder crowd, made the rules. Who are we to change them?

Above all, I would like you to go quietly. Sure, our thoughts and prayers will go out to you after you’ve bled out, but after a couple of days, we’ll be back to business as usual.  We’ve got gun shows to attend, thank you very much.



LMFAO!  ;D


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 16, 2012, 06:55:01 AM
 8)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: che on December 16, 2012, 06:57:00 AM
Since we're not allowed to politicize people that have died in shootings, I would like to propose we do something for those of you that will die in the near future from the next (apparently) unavoidable mass murder. Since you are still alive, and walking around for a while, I think it's okay to talk about you. Sorry you're going to get killed, but guns don't kill people, people do. Please remember that when you have a weapon pointed at you.

And don’t tarnish our gun laws with your memory. Just remember, your death is in the constitution and we don’t want to hear you whining about anything. One of these days, someone is going to stop one of these shootings with the 300 million guns available. Sorry it isn’t your mass murder that will be prevented, and it probably won’t be the next one, or the one after that, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles.

Slave-owners from the 18th century, with an infinite wisdom that will never bend to the trendy anti-murder crowd, made the rules. Who are we to change them?

Above all, I would like you to go quietly. Sure, our thoughts and prayers will go out to you after you’ve bled out, but after a couple of days, we’ll be back to business as usual.  We’ve got gun shows to attend, thank you very much.

 


Millions of people have safely used ephedra  for years but then  one  out of shape  fat  fucker (Korey Stringer) died and they banned ephedra for  everyone else .


More laws = less freedom


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 16, 2012, 07:08:39 AM
 


Millions of people have safely used ephedra  for years but then  one  out of shape  fat  fucker (Korey Stringer) died and they banned ephedra for  everyone else .


More laws = less freedom


Truth. And more laws people don't intend to follow

The CT killer broke the following laws , murder , suicide ( yes against the law ) theft ( of the mothers firearms ) possession of firearms without a licence , possession of ammo with a licence , transporting firearms & ammo unlawfully , bringing guns onto a gun-free school zone , etc

Lets pass more laws that A) wont stop people from doing evil things and B) punish people who never did anything wrong   


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: WOOO on December 16, 2012, 07:10:48 AM
Truth. And more laws people don't intend to follow

The CT killer broke the following laws , murder , suicide ( yes against the law ) theft ( of the mothers firearms ) possession of firearms without a licence , possession of ammo with a licence , transporting firearms & ammo unlawfully , bringing guns onto a gun-free school zone , etc

Lets pass more laws that A) wont stop people from doing evil things and B) punish people who never did anything wrong   


typical american't reaction to anything


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 16, 2012, 07:13:52 AM

typical american't reaction to anything

The irony is CT has some of the strictest gun laws in the country. All designed and created to prevent things like this  :-\

The real issue is mental health


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: che on December 16, 2012, 07:20:45 AM
The irony is CT has some of the strictest gun laws in the country. All designed and created to prevent things like this  :-\

The real issue is mental health
Don't get me wrong  I think we  need stronger gun regulations no because what happened in CT but because I know (personally)a lot of people that shouldn't be allowed to own a gun .


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 16, 2012, 07:29:14 AM
Don't get me wrong  I think we  need stronger gun regulations no because what happened in CT but because I know (personally)a lot of people that shouldn't be allowed to own a gun .
Have those people killed anyone yet?  The ones who you think should not own one?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: che on December 16, 2012, 07:51:02 AM
Have those people killed anyone yet?  The ones who you think should not own one?
Long story short , this is a  family of Ironworkers  ,Dad and three sons ,they all own many guns ,the oldest kid committed suicide  about 8 years ago ,the youngest lost it ,he's really fucked up in the head now, about two years ago he shot his dad over stupid argument , he didn't kill him but he ended up in the nut house , now he's out ,he lives alone , still own many guns ,he's still a fucking lunatic.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 16, 2012, 07:59:02 AM
Long story short , this is a  family of Ironworkers  ,Dad and three sons ,they all own many guns ,the oldest kid committed suicide  about 8 years ago ,the youngest lost it ,he's really fucked up in the head now, about two years ago he shot his dad over stupid argument , he didn't kill him but he ended up in the nut house , now he's out ,he lives alone , still own many guns ,he's still a fucking lunatic.
Its clear that guns did not make that family any less sane.  Perhaps guns are what they need so they can end themselves of their insanity.  :-\


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: che on December 16, 2012, 08:01:15 AM
Perhaps guns are what they need so they can end themselves of their insanity.  :-\

I agree


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nomad on December 16, 2012, 08:06:51 AM
The Mother was a GUN NUTTER, so much for having Guns for protection, she was murdered with her own GUN.  You would have to be pretty NAIVE to think owning guns makes you SAFER, it makes you more vulnerable, just like the studies show.  Gun Ownership is more likely to get you killed or seriously injured.  Gun Nutters aren't too bright though, and ruled by their obsessive drives.



(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=451549.0;attach=496301;image)



One incident does not prove anything and it does not help your case at all that we are dealing with a mentally disturbed individual here. Also, what is wrong with you?



Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 16, 2012, 08:20:00 AM


One incident does not prove anything and it does not help your case at all that we are dealing with a mentally disturbed individual here. Also, what is wrong with you?



That's E-Kul

(http://i.imgur.com/2sVtQ.gif)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2012, 08:29:03 AM
SOUTHBURY, Conn. (AP) — At Newtown High School, Adam Lanza had trouble relating to fellow students and teachers, but that was only part of his problem. He seemed not to feel physical or psychological pain in the same way as classmates.

Richard Novia, the school district's head of security until 2008, who also served as adviser for the school technology club, said Lanza clearly "had some disabilities."

"If that boy would've burned himself, he would not have known it or felt it physically," Novia told The Associated Press in a phone interview. "It was my job to pay close attention to that."

Novia was responsible for monitoring students as they used soldering tools and other potentially dangerous electrical equipment.

He recalled meeting with school guidance counselors, administrators and with the boy's mother, Nancy Lanza, to understand his problems and find ways to ensure his safety. But there were other crises only a mother could solve.

"He would have an episode, and she'd have to return or come to the high school and deal with it," Novia said, describing how the young man would sometimes withdraw completely "from whatever he was supposed to be doing," whether it was sitting in class or reading a book.

Adam Lanza "could take flight, which I think was the big issue, and it wasn't a rebellious or defiant thing," Novia said. "It was withdrawal."

Authorities on Saturday continued a wide-ranging investigating into the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history, trying to understand what led the young man to kill his mother in their home and then slaughter 26 children and adults at a Connecticut elementary school before taking his own life.

A law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to discuss the unfolding investigation, said Lanza had been diagnosed with Asperger's, a milder form of autism. People with the disorder tend to function poorly socially but can be highly intelligent.

If he did have Asperger's, his lack of sensation could be related to the disorder, said psychologist Elizabeth Laugeson, an assistant clinical professor at the University of California, Los Angeles. People with Asperger's can be overly sensitive to things like touch, noise and pain, or sometimes under-sensitive, she said.

Back in their teenage years, Adam and his older brother, Ryan, were both members of the tech club, which offered students a chance to work on computers, videotape school events and produce public-access broadcasts.

It was popular among socially awkward students. But Adam, while clearly smart, had problems that went beyond an adolescent lack of social skills, Novia said.

"You had yourself a very scared young boy, who was very nervous around people he could trust or he refused to speak with," Novia said.

The club provided a setting for students to build lasting friendships. But while other members were acquainted with Adam, none was close to him.

"Have you found his best friend? Have you found a friend?" Novia asked. "You're not going to. He was a loner."

Adam was not physically bullied, although he may have been teased, Novia said.

The club gave the boy a place where he could be more at ease and indulge his interest in computers. His anxieties appeared to ease somewhat, but they never disappeared. When people approached him in the hallways, he would press himself against the wall or walk in a different direction, clutching tight to his black case.

"The behavior would be more like an 8-year-old who refuses to give up his teddy bear," Novia said. "What you knew with Adam is it was a possession. It was not a possession to be put at risk."

Even so, Novia said, his primary concern was that Adam might become a target for abuse by his fellow students, not that he might become a threat.

"Somewhere along in the last four years, there were significant changes that led to what has happened," Novia said. "I could never have foreseen him doing that."

Jim McDade, who lives a few houses from where Nancy Lanza was slain, said his family became acquainted with the two brothers and their mother because their children were about the same ages and rode the school bus together.

"There was certainly no indication of anything unusual that lets you think that a kid's going to do something like that," said McDade, who works in finance in New York. "There was nothing that would indicate anything going on behind the scenes that would lead to this horrible mess."

He recalled Adam Lanza as "a very bright kid."

Olivia DeVivo, a student at the University of Connecticut, was in Adam Lanza's 10th grade English class.

"He was very different and very shy and didn't make an effort to interact with anybody," she said.

DeVivo said Lanza always carried a briefcase and wore his shirts buttoned up to the top button. She said he seemed bright but never really participated in class.

"Now looking back, it's kind of like 'OK, he had all these signs,' but you can't say every shy person would do something like this."

Lanza's family was struggling to make sense of what happened and "trying to find whatever answers we can," his father, Peter Lanza, said in a statement late Saturday that also expressed sympathy for the victims' families.

___

Associated Press writers Michael Melia and Jim Fitzgerald in Newtown, Conn., Denise Lavoie in Stamford, Conn., and Stephanie Nano in New York contributed to this report.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 16, 2012, 08:31:20 AM
I think it's okay to talk about you. Sorry you're going to get killed, but guns don't kill people, people do. Please remember that when you have a weapon pointed at you
If someone is pointing a gun at you, you blame the gun?
If someone is going to stab you, you're going to blame the knife? You're going to be just as dead either way.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2012, 09:04:35 AM
Gunman had "altercation" with school staff day before masssacre
NBC News ^ | December 15, 2012 | Tracy Connor
Posted on December 15, 2012 1:03:16 PM EST by xsrdx

The gunman in the Newtown massacre had an "altercation" with four staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School the day before he killed 20 children, six adults and himself there, Connecticut and federal officials told NBC News Saturday.

Three of the four staff members were killed Friday in one of the worst school shootings in U.S. history. The fourth staff member was not at school that day and is being interviewed by federal and state investigators, NBC News’ Pete Williams said.

Two days before that, Adam Lanza, 20, went to a sporting goods store in Danbury, Conn., and tried to purchase a rifle, but was rebuffed because the state has a waiting period for gun sales, the officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at usnews.nbcnews.com ...


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 16, 2012, 09:06:26 AM
See, there s always an explanation.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 16, 2012, 09:07:39 AM
tried to purchase a rifle, but was rebuffed because the state has a waiting period for gun sales, the officials said.
Hmm.......


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 16, 2012, 09:09:27 AM
Hmm.......
Makes no sense when he had an AR in the car


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2012, 09:12:54 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-detailed-account-yet-of-the-sandy-hook-massacre-2012-12


Lot of details.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 16, 2012, 09:19:34 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-detailed-account-yet-of-the-sandy-hook-massacre-2012-12


Lot of details.
Why are elementary school teachers so young these days?  When I was in elementary school, it was all old ladies.  ???

(http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/50cde06c69bedd950300002b-464-394-295/katlin-roig-sandy-hook-2.png)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 16, 2012, 09:20:13 AM
I personally believe that having children probably should be a requirement in order to be an elementary school teacher.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 16, 2012, 09:20:40 AM
Makes no sense when he had an AR in the car
I was wondering about that. One news site I read said he had an AR in the car, but not others. Was it confirmed or just more media BS?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2012, 09:27:05 AM
Why are elementary school teachers so young these days?  When I was in elementary school, it was all old ladies.  ???

(http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/50cde06c69bedd950300002b-464-394-295/katlin-roig-sandy-hook-2.png)

WYHI? 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 16, 2012, 09:39:49 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/adam-lanzas-mom-pulled-school-relative/t/story?id=17985433


Undiagnosed mental illness.   

If someone is home schooling their kids and they're not millionaires in business or living a life off the land, then the kids are probably being molested from the creepy parent(s)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 16, 2012, 09:42:21 AM
If someone is home schooling their kids and they're not millionaires in business or living a life off the land, then the kids are probably being molested from the creepy parent(s)
They were millionaires.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 16, 2012, 09:54:27 AM
Bob Costas should be brought in for questioning and have his back round gone through with a fine tooth comb.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Maddy on December 16, 2012, 09:56:35 AM
guns are objects and are used to shoot paper targets, are you telling me you can kill people with them ?

that's really dangerous, and NOT what they were designed for !!

Groink
the drugs you
were arrested with
are not designed
to be used
recreationaly


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2012, 10:01:10 AM
Groink
the drugs you
were arrested with
are not designed
to be used
recreationaly

Ouch! 


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 16, 2012, 10:03:43 AM
Groink
the drugs you
were arrested with
are not designed
to be used
recreationaly

Someone got burned


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: Tightskin on December 16, 2012, 10:26:36 AM
I have trouble recalling any woman doing this. 

Remember Laurie Dann?

En.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Dann
Crazy as hell.  Stuffed meat in couch cushions and left it to rot.
Uberman will appreciate that her upbringing was determined to have caused her mental instability




Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 18 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 16, 2012, 10:28:24 AM
Remember Laurie Dann?

En.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Dann
Crazy as hell.  Stuffed meat in couch cushions and left it to rot.
Uberman will appreciate that her upbringing was determined to have caused her mental instability



Oh yah that one!  Lady was a beast.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: freespirit on December 16, 2012, 10:29:20 AM
 :D

http://www.naturalnews.com/038187_gun_buyback_flu_shot_Massachesetts.html#ixzz2E0hNzubx


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 16, 2012, 10:30:04 AM
:D

http://www.naturalnews.com/038187_gun_buyback_flu_shot_Massachesetts.html#ixzz2E0hNzubx

LMFAO


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 16, 2012, 10:31:15 AM
:D

http://www.naturalnews.com/038187_gun_buyback_flu_shot_Massachesetts.html#ixzz2E0hNzubx
ZOMG lol.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2012, 10:45:45 AM
http://www.washingtonguardian.com/washingtons-school-security-failure


Obamas fault


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2012, 12:34:47 PM
Connecticut gunman attended school where he killed 26, governor says
NBC ^ | 12/16/12 | M. Alex Johnson
Posted on December 16, 2012 3:20:49 PM EST by jimbo123

An explanation still hasn't emerged for why a man killed 26 people at Sandy Hook Elementary School, but it does appear that he attended the school as a youngster, Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy told NBC News on Sunday.

Adam Lanza, 20, shot his mother multiple times in the head in her home before driving to the school in her car and killing 20 children and six adults in two classrooms Friday in Newtown, Conn., authorities said Sunday. The gunman then shot himself in the head as emergency crews arrived at the scene.

(Excerpt) Read more at usnews.nbcnews.com ...


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 16, 2012, 12:36:32 PM
Connecticut gunman attended school where he killed 26, governor says
NBC ^ | 12/16/12 | M. Alex Johnson
Posted on December 16, 2012 3:20:49 PM EST by jimbo123

An explanation still hasn't emerged for why a man killed 26 people at Sandy Hook Elementary School, but it does appear that he attended the school as a youngster, Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy told NBC News on Sunday.

Adam Lanza, 20, shot his mother multiple times in the head in her home before driving to the school in her car and killing 20 children and six adults in two classrooms Friday in Newtown, Conn., authorities said Sunday. The gunman then shot himself in the head as emergency crews arrived at the scene.

(Excerpt) Read more at usnews.nbcnews.com ...

Probably angry that snack time never went the way it was supposed to.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 16, 2012, 12:45:30 PM
I am mildly amused by the people posting up the gun homocide statistics from Britain and peacocking over them. Let's see how happy you are being disarmed in about 10 years when Muslim and North African scum overruns the U.K. and you get sharia law forced down you throat.

Mark my words, that day is coming.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: slate on December 16, 2012, 01:50:59 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

we are here
we are live




Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 16, 2012, 02:27:36 PM
Oh Brother!, Not only was the Shooters Mum a Gun Nut she was a PREPPER. A person who prepares for social chaos by hoarding supplies and training with weapons.  What an idiot, how about just focusing on getting through each day and making sure your son doesn't commit mass murder killing you in the process.  Their is so much tolerance for CRAZIES in America, if someone we knew began hoarding food, collecting weapons and talking about the end of the world, well, that would be a sure sign of serious mental illness and the Nut House wouldn't be too far away.  But in America, thinking like that is NORMAL for most folk, what a strange place America is!

So the Mother was a Disturbed Nut JoB who raised her child to believe THE END OF THE WORLD WAS COMING, kid never had a chance.  He probably thought he was doing those kids a favour, putting them out of their misery because the end was just around the corner.  The Mother looks like a complete idiot now, preparing for economic collapse and she gets murdered by her own son, what an Idiot!


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 16, 2012, 02:57:19 PM
Oh Brother!, Not only was the Shooters Mum a Gun Nut she was a PREPPER. A person who prepares for social chaos by hoarding supplies and training with weapons.  What an idiot, how about just focusing on getting through each day and making sure your son doesn't commit mass murder killing you in the process.  Their is so much tolerance for CRAZIES in America, if someone we knew began hoarding food, collecting weapons and talking about the end of the world, well, that would be a sure sign of serious mental illness and the Nut House wouldn't be too far away.  But in America, thinking like that is NORMAL for most folk, what a strange place America is!

So the Mother was a Disturbed Nut JoB who raised her child to believe THE END OF THE WORLD WAS COMING, kid never had a chance.  He probably thought he was doing those kids a favour, putting them out of their misery because the end was just around the corner.  The Mother looks like a complete idiot now, preparing for economic collapse and she gets murdered by her own son, what an Idiot!
Source that she was a doomsday prepper?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 16, 2012, 03:08:06 PM
Source that she was a doomsday prepper?
https://www.google.com/ (https://www.google.com/)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 16, 2012, 03:11:47 PM
https://www.google.com/ (https://www.google.com/)
  ::)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: exocet on December 16, 2012, 04:46:45 PM
The Westboro Baptist Church is planning to picket the Newton school shooting site!!

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57559468-93/hackers-target-westboro-baptist-church-after-newtown-threat/ (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57559468-93/hackers-target-westboro-baptist-church-after-newtown-threat/)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2012, 05:08:48 PM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/16/15946559-very-heavily-armed-gunman-shot-mother-multiple-times-before-killing-26-at-connecticut-school-police-say?lite


This dude was batshit crazy. 


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: 240 is Back on December 16, 2012, 05:21:00 PM
Obama to speak to nation shortly about the attack


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2012, 06:20:39 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/nancy-lanza-feared-son-adam-worse-article-1.1221505


Mutant freak of nature! 


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: ChopperRider on December 16, 2012, 06:24:08 PM
Oh Brother!, Not only was the Shooters Mum a Gun Nut she was a PREPPER. A person who prepares for social chaos by hoarding supplies and training with weapons.  What an idiot, how about just focusing on getting through each day and making sure your son doesn't commit mass murder killing you in the process.  Their is so much tolerance for CRAZIES in America, if someone we knew began hoarding food, collecting weapons and talking about the end of the world, well, that would be a sure sign of serious mental illness and the Nut House wouldn't be too far away.  But in America, thinking like that is NORMAL for most folk, what a strange place America is!

So the Mother was a Disturbed Nut JoB who raised her child to believe THE END OF THE WORLD WAS COMING, kid never had a chance.  He probably thought he was doing those kids a favour, putting them out of their misery because the end was just around the corner.  The Mother looks like a complete idiot now, preparing for economic collapse and she gets murdered by her own son, what an Idiot!

Your idiotic posts remind me of Vince Basile.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2012, 06:25:14 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/nancy-lanza-feared-son-adam-worse-article-1.1221505



Read!   

This was a freak of nature.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 16, 2012, 06:26:16 PM
What they need to ban is white people isolating themselves in rural areas in America


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 16, 2012, 06:28:53 PM
Why is Ali G at the memorial and who is gonna clean all that up?

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1221656!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/jonathan-lanza.jpg)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 16, 2012, 06:30:23 PM
Why is Ali G at the memorial and who is gonna clean all that up?

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1221656!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/jonathan-lanza.jpg)

What a fuking asshole! Tebowing at a memorial


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 16, 2012, 06:35:13 PM
Your idiotic posts remind me of Vince Basile.
Your posts remind me of a Mentally ill person projecting your own Mental illness onto everyone else, it doesn't surprise me that you strongly identify with a Bat Shit crazy Gun Nutter who raised a mass murdering teenager who shot his own bat shit crazy mum as well as dozens of innocent children.  Getbiggers like yourself are particularly frightening, I am so glad I live in Australia were Gun Nutters are seen as sociopathic and deviant whackjobs by the majority of citizens.  Sadly for America, the mental illness that is Gun Worship has reached epidemic proportions were it is now perceived as NORMAL behaviour.  You know a Culture has lost it's way when psychotic and bizarre ideologies like Gun WORSHIP are now considered NORMAL.  These regular mass shootings are an overt indication of a deeply sick and twisted Culture, these shooters are a reflection of the communities they live in.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2012, 06:37:18 PM
Your posts remind me of a Mentally ill person projecting your own Mental illness onto everyone else, it doesn't surprise me that you strongly identify with a Bat Shit crazy Gun Nutter who raised a mass murdering teenager who shot his own bat shit crazy mum as well as dozens of innocent children.  Getbiggers like yourself are particularly frightening, I am so glad I live in Australia were Gun Nutters are seen as sociopathic and deviant whackjobs by the majority of citizens.  Sadly for America, the mental illness that is Gun Worship has reached epidemic proportions were it is now perceived as NORMAL behaviour.  You know a Culture has lost it's way when psychotic and bizarre ideologies like Gun WORSHIP are now considered NORMAL.  These regular mass shootings are an overt indication of a deeply sick and twisted Culture, these shooters are a reflection of the communities they live in.


Go get eaten by a shark Crocodle Dundee.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: ChopperRider on December 16, 2012, 06:40:53 PM
Your posts remind me of a Mentally ill person projecting your own Mental illness onto everyone else, it doesn't surprise me that you strongly identify with a Bat Shit crazy Gun Nutter who raised a mass murdering teenager who shot his own bat shit crazy mum as well as dozens of innocent children.  Getbiggers like yourself are particularly frightening, I am so glad I live in Australia were Gun Nutters are seen as sociopathic and deviant whackjobs by the majority of citizens.  Sadly for America, the mental illness that is Gun Worship has reached epidemic proportions were it is now perceived as NORMAL behaviour.  You know a Culture has lost it's way when psychotic and bizarre ideologies like Gun WORSHIP are now considered NORMAL.  These regular mass shootings are an overt indication of a deeply sick and twisted Culture, these shooters are a reflection of the communities they live in.

You're spawn of a convict, nothing more. Your great, great Grandpa was definitely a child molesting pedophile.



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2012, 06:45:41 PM
http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-and-politics/2012/12/2-mass-shootings-connected-to-libor-2447738.html


Sort of CT.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 16, 2012, 06:46:09 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/nancy-lanza-feared-son-adam-worse-article-1.1221505


Mutant freak of nature!  
Kind of convenient to call the kid bathshit crazy and a freak of nature after he shoots up a bunch of kids.  The sad things is, communities don't want to acknowledge that it is the culture, the environment, the very community itself that is batshit crazy and these incidents just highlight the fact.  What is batshit crazy is that a young man can be part of a community and for all intents and purposes be considered NORMAL and then one day suddenly Shoot his own mother and dozens of children.  Time to look at your communities as a whole, otherwise these incidents will continue happening.

The very first think any group does when their is FAILURE is to blame an individual, rather than look at themselves as a GROUP and how they failed a member within that Group.  Groups that work well take responsibility for the failings of members of the group and identify their failures and rectify them, weak groups just blame an individual and never learn the inherent lesson from their failure, they are doomed to repeat the same mistakes, hence the reason mass shooting are a common occurrence in America as America is a WEAK Group, made up of self interested individuals all internally squabbling amongst each other.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Stefano on December 16, 2012, 06:49:20 PM
The Westboro Baptist Church is planning to picket the Newton school shooting site!!

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57559468-93/hackers-target-westboro-baptist-church-after-newtown-threat/ (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57559468-93/hackers-target-westboro-baptist-church-after-newtown-threat/)

Complete nutters. I think kevin smith did a movie that used that church as an inspiration.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Maddy on December 16, 2012, 06:50:15 PM
Kind of convenient to call the kid bathshit crazy and a freak of nature after he shoots up a bunch of kids.  The sad things is, communities don't want to acknowledge that it is the culture, the environment, the very community itself that is batshit crazy and these incidents just highlight the fact.  What is batshit crazy is that a young man can be part of a community and for all intents and purposes be considered NORMAL and then one day suddenly Shoot his own mother and dozens of children.  Time to look at your communities as a whole, otherwise these incidents will continue happening.

The very first think any group does when their is FAILURE is to blame an individual, rather than look at themselves as a GROUP and how they failed a member within that Group.  Groups that work well take responsibility for the failings of members of the group and identify their failures and rectify them, weak groups just blame an individual and never learn the inherent lesson from their failure, they are doomed to repeat the same mistakes, hence the reason mass shooting are a common occurrence in America as America is a WEAK Group, made up of self interested individuals all internally squabbling amongst each other.

E-Kul
you come across
obsessed with
america dont
worry about
us we are
still better
than you


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: ChopperRider on December 16, 2012, 06:53:57 PM
Kind of convenient to call the kid bathshit crazy and a freak of nature after he shoots up a bunch of kids.  The sad things is, communities don't want to acknowledge that it is the culture, the environment, the very community itself that is batshit crazy and these incidents just highlight the fact.  What is batshit crazy is that a young man can be part of a community and for all intents and purposes be considered NORMAL and then one day suddenly Shoot his own mother and dozens of children.  Time to look at your communities as a whole, otherwise these incidents will continue happening.

The very first think any group does when their is FAILURE is to blame an individual, rather than look at themselves as a GROUP and how they failed a member within that Group.  Groups that work well take responsibility for the failings of members of the group and identify their failures and rectify them, weak groups just blame an individual and never learn the inherent lesson from their failure, they are doomed to repeat the same mistakes, hence the reason mass shooting are a common occurrence in America as America is a WEAK Group, made up of self interested individuals all internally squabbling amongst each other.

The superiority of America and Americans gnaws at you.

Accept it, let the anger go, come to the realization that we are better than you in EVERY way.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 16, 2012, 07:03:25 PM
Long story short , this is a  family of Ironworkers  ,Dad and three sons ,they all own many guns ,the oldest kid committed suicide  about 8 years ago ,the youngest lost it ,he's really fucked up in the head now, about two years ago he shot his dad over stupid argument , he didn't kill him but he ended up in the nut house , now he's out ,he lives alone , still own many guns ,he's still a fucking lunatic.

I don't think you can go to a nut house and then legally own a gun. I believe you have to forfeit your right to own a firearm.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 16, 2012, 07:04:28 PM
So are they going to demolish that school? I can't imagine them using it as a school anymore. Maybe turn it into a psych hospital or something.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: chaos on December 16, 2012, 07:06:44 PM
I don't think you can go to a nut house and then legally own a gun. I believe you have to forfeit your right to own a firearm.
That's the law and nobody would break the law and illegally obtain a gun would they?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: ChopperRider on December 16, 2012, 07:43:32 PM
That's the law and nobody would break the law and illegally obtain a gun would they?

Of course not, that is exactly why the gun ban in Chicago is working so well.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 16, 2012, 07:59:11 PM
I don't think you can go to a nut house and then legally own a gun. I believe you have to forfeit your right to own a firearm.
Technically, America is one giant NUTHOUSE! The SANE ones leave, the CRAZY ones stay and slowly become ever more demented and psychotic, all the while thinking the rest of the world is crazy, that is, the ones that are actually aware their are other countries.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: chaos on December 16, 2012, 07:59:49 PM
Technically, America is one giant NUTHOUSE!
::)


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 16, 2012, 08:06:46 PM
Technically, America is one giant NUTHOUSE! The SANE ones leave, the CRAZY ones stay and slowly become ever more demented and psychotic, all the while thinking the rest of the world is crazy, that is, the ones that are actually aware their are other countries.

Hey, aren't Australians the decendants of criminals?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: ChopperRider on December 16, 2012, 08:15:14 PM
Technically, America is one giant NUTHOUSE! The SANE ones leave, the CRAZY ones stay and slowly become ever more demented and psychotic, all the while thinking the rest of the world is crazy, that is, the ones that are actually aware their are other countries.

Your family was exiled to a penal colony because your great, great Grandpa was a toddler toucher.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 16, 2012, 08:19:01 PM
Your family was exiled to a penal colony because your great, great Grandpa was a toddler toucher.
My Family is British! You know the people who ruled and civilised the world! and at its height, it was the largest empire in history and, for over a century, was the foremost global power! And at its height, it was the largest empire in history and, for over a century, was the foremost global power. By 1922 the British Empire held sway over about 458 million people, one-fifth of the world's population at the time. The empire covered more than 33,700,000 km2 (13,012,000 sq mi), almost a quarter of the Earth's total land area. As a result, its political, legal, linguistic and cultural legacy is widespread. At the peak of its power it was often said that "the sun never sets on the British Empire" because its span across the globe ensured that the sun was always shining on at least one of its numerous territories.

Most people have heard of them, except the majority of Americans, who are Ignorant!


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 16, 2012, 08:20:03 PM
My Family is English, sorry to burst your bubble!

So at least a few snuck off the boat.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 16, 2012, 08:22:12 PM
My Family is British! You know the people who ruled and civilised the world! and at its height, it was the largest empire in history and, for over a century, was the foremost global power!
We taught those assholes a lesson in 1783 and in 1812.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: ChopperRider on December 16, 2012, 08:36:17 PM
My Family is British! You know the people who ruled and civilised the world! and at its height, it was the largest empire in history and, for over a century, was the foremost global power! And at its height, it was the largest empire in history and, for over a century, was the foremost global power. By 1922 the British Empire held sway over about 458 million people, one-fifth of the world's population at the time. The empire covered more than 33,700,000 km2 (13,012,000 sq mi), almost a quarter of the Earth's total land area. As a result, its political, legal, linguistic and cultural legacy is widespread. At the peak of its power it was often said that "the sun never sets on the British Empire" because its span across the globe ensured that the sun was always shining on at least one of its numerous territories.

Most people have heard of them, except the majority of Americans, who are Ignorant!

Roman Empire > British Empire

Spanish Empire was first to be referred to as sun never setting on it.

You = angry little elf because American way of life is superior to yours in every way. I'm betting American tourists gang banged your wife while you were home doing housework.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 16, 2012, 08:42:08 PM
Technically, America is one giant NUTHOUSE! The SANE ones leave, the CRAZY ones stay and slowly become ever more demented and psychotic, all the while thinking the rest of the world is crazy, that is, the ones that are actually aware their are other countries.

How is it that you know so many of us Americans intimately enough to know if we are all demented and psychotic? Come to think of it, you've never met me, any of my family and probably none of my friends. Hmm, could be you are over stating your argument.


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 16, 2012, 08:44:22 PM
My Family is British! You know the people who ruled and civilised the world! and at its height, it was the largest empire in history and, for over a century, was the foremost global power! And at its height, it was the largest empire in history and, for over a century, was the foremost global power. By 1922 the British Empire held sway over about 458 million people, one-fifth of the world's population at the time. The empire covered more than 33,700,000 km2 (13,012,000 sq mi), almost a quarter of the Earth's total land area. As a result, its political, legal, linguistic and cultural legacy is widespread. At the peak of its power it was often said that "the sun never sets on the British Empire" because its span across the globe ensured that the sun was always shining on at least one of its numerous territories.

Most people have heard of them, except the majority of Americans, who are Ignorant!

Empires fall. If you are British, you are well aware of this.

I am American. Many of my ancestors immigrated to America from England prior to the Revolutionary War. They fought in that war and guess what? They won. So tell me again, who is it that's ignorant?


Title: Re: Massive Shooting at School in Connecticut - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 16, 2012, 08:54:52 PM
Technically, America is one giant NUTHOUSE! The SANE ones leave, the CRAZY ones stay and slowly become ever more demented and psychotic, all the while thinking the rest of the world is crazy, that is, the ones that are actually aware their are other countries.

Technically, E-Kul is one giant NUTHOUSE


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 16, 2012, 09:53:07 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324677204578183910797348422.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories


They knew in hs he was nuts.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 16, 2012, 10:01:41 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324677204578183910797348422.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories


They knew in hs he was nuts.

Knowing a person is nuts and doing something about it is not as simple as it should be. In our society, we tend to give all people the benefit of doubt until they go off the deep end and do something drastic or even horrific like this man did. Many, if not most, mental patients are no longer in institutions or hospitals, but rather roaming the streets. Sometimes they literally live on the streets as half-way houses and group homes are not always available. In other words the person standing next to you on the street could be a mental case and could be dangerous to themselves and others. It is difficult if not next to impossible to commit someone who is an adult.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 16, 2012, 10:54:19 PM
Yes but this is the new liberal culture.  No society, just individuals doing what "makes them feel good" until one day they wake up to what their pathetic lives have become, and kill themselves and somethimes others

The very first think any group does when their is FAILURE is to blame an individual, rather than look at themselves as a GROUP and how they failed a member within that Group.  Groups that work well take responsibility for the failings of members of the group and identify their failures and rectify them, weak groups just blame an individual and never learn the inherent lesson from their failure, they are doomed to repeat the same mistakes,


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lulu on December 17, 2012, 05:33:47 AM
Aspergers my ass

20 children are massacred by a nutjob whose mother knew he shouldn't be around guns but fancied them anyways

I blame her

20 poor children are dead due to her negligence and her ignorance



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Steelrabbitt on December 17, 2012, 05:55:26 AM
http://www.davidicke.com/articles/problem-reaction-solution-mainmenu-41/70830-problem-reaction-solution-in-your-face


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lulu on December 17, 2012, 06:02:35 AM
 ::)

yes some higher power took over his brain

or beings with superior intelligence brain washed him

yep that's it

fucking moron


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Conker on December 17, 2012, 06:25:20 AM
::)

yes some higher power took over his brain

or beings with superior intelligence brain washed him

yep that's it

fucking moron


Didn't David Icke once say that America was one big consumer testing ground for Europe, where the population is basically being experimented on to see what works and what's dangerous etc.

If true, at least there is one positive ,Europe has gleaned how idiotic it is to have a society that has a gun per head of population.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 17, 2012, 06:31:01 AM

Didn't David Icke once say that America was one big consumer testing ground for Europe, where the population is basically being experimented on to see what works and what's dangerous etc.

If true, at least there is one positive ,Europe has gleaned how idiotic it is to have a society that has a gun per head of population.
David Icke also believes lizard people run planet Earth, and he is serious!  David Icke is a classic example that not all nutjobs go on mass shooting sprees!  Don't get me wrong, I like David, but he is batshit CRAZY!


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lulu on December 17, 2012, 06:34:51 AM
idiots shouldn't have guns

responsible gun ownership is valid and a constitutional right

the mother knew the kid was mentally damaged

she should have had the guns in a SAFE behind a combination he did not know and never let him touch them


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 17, 2012, 06:35:14 AM
Aspergers my ass

20 children are massacred by a nutjob whose mother knew he shouldn't be around guns but fancied them anyways

I blame her

20 poor children are dead due to her negligence and her ignorance


No Uberman, but blame the father as well for not being present in the boys life. Guy was a big CEO but didn't have time for his son.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lulu on December 17, 2012, 06:37:10 AM
No Uberman, but blame the father as well for not being present in the boys life. Guy was a big CEO but didn't have time for his son.

fuckoff


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 17, 2012, 06:42:57 AM
fuckoff
I agree with you

 ???


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2012, 06:45:59 AM
idiots shouldn't have guns

responsible gun ownership is valid and a constitutional right

the mother knew the kid was mentally damaged

she should have had the guns in a SAFE behind a combination he did not know and never let him touch them

I agree w that from what I am reason.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lulu on December 17, 2012, 06:48:52 AM
I agree with you

 ???

you called me Uberman  >:(

and I don't blame the father , the guns were his mother's


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 17, 2012, 06:53:44 AM
you called me Uberman  >:(

and I don't blame the father , the guns were his mother's
No no no....

I meant it as "no homo, but....". So "not to sound like Uberman, but the boy was abandoned by his male role model. Bad shit always happens when dads run out on their kids. I Agree with your points as well.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lulu on December 17, 2012, 06:58:46 AM
No no no....

I meant it as "no homo, but....". So "not to sound like Uberman, but the boy was abandoned by his male role model. Bad shit always happens when dads run out on their kids. I Agree with your points as well.

oh I get it now

your sentence structure threw me off

the kid was detached from everyone there was not anyone that could be close to him so it made no difference if the father was there or not to him , he didn't like anyone

that is why the mother should NEVER have had the guns in the house to begin with but since she was hell bent on having them she SHOULD have had a SAFE he couldn't get into

he had no empathy , no feelings , no sense and his mother knew it


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2012, 07:12:27 AM
I wonder if the kid knew the combo? 



oh I get it now

your sentence structure threw me off

the kid was detached from everyone there was not anyone that could be close to him so it made no difference if the father was there or not to him , he didn't like anyone

that is why the mother should NEVER have had the guns in the house to begin with but since she was hell bent on having them she SHOULD have had a SAFE he couldn't get into

he had no empathy , no feelings , no sense and his mother knew it


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lulu on December 17, 2012, 07:18:50 AM
I wonder if the kid knew the combo? 




I doubt she had a safe , she probably just has an IKEA gun cabinet with a glass front

The guns could have been kept at the gun range also , they said she went target shooting regularly and took both sons

She was negligent , beyond words


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 17, 2012, 07:24:41 AM
The kid was far from stupid, its not like he would have been unable to find the combination if there was a safe in the house.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: lulu on December 17, 2012, 07:25:55 AM
The kid was far from stupid, its not like he would have been unable to find the combination if there was a safe in the house.

Why would anyone with half a brain write the combo down ?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 17, 2012, 07:57:29 AM
Why would anyone with half a brain write the combo down ?
In case they forgot it.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 17, 2012, 09:35:47 AM
December 14, 2012     26 Dead   Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown, Connecticut

Adam Lanza


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July 20, 2012     12 dead     Aurora, Colorado,      Colorado Movie Theater Massacre


James Holmes


(http://llwproductions.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/holmes-colorado-suspect.jpg)









January 8, 2011     6 dead    Tucson, Arizona     2011 Tucson supermarket massacre


Jared Lee Loughner


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cd/Jared_Loughner_sheriff%27s_office.jpg/220px-Jared_Loughner_sheriff%27s_office.jpg)










 April 20, 1999     15 dead     Columbine High School massacre      Littleton, Colorado


Eric Harris


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f0/Eric_Harris.JPG/200px-Eric_Harris.JPG)



Dylan Klebold

(http://www.nndb.com/people/922/000110592/dylan-klebold.jpg)











Sept 11, 2001    2,753 died   World Trade Centers     new york New York



GWB




(http://www.picanese.com/pbpics/george-w-bush-flipping-a-finger-stjw.jpg)



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Wiggs on December 17, 2012, 09:38:15 AM
December 14, 2012     26 Dead   Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown, Connecticut

Adam Lanza


(http://1-ps.googleusercontent.com/x/www.thehollywoodgossip.com/assets.thehollywoodgossip.com/photos/full/xadam-lanza-yearbook-photo.jpg.pagespeed.b.ic.6mwdRZbokv.jpg)






July 20, 2012     12 dead     Aurora, Colorado,      Colorado Movie Theater Massacre


James Holmes


(http://llwproductions.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/holmes-colorado-suspect.jpg)









January 8, 2011     6 dead    Tucson, Arizona     2011 Tucson supermarket massacre


Jared Lee Loughner


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cd/Jared_Loughner_sheriff%27s_office.jpg/220px-Jared_Loughner_sheriff%27s_office.jpg)










 April 20, 1999     15 dead     Columbine High School massacre      Littleton, Colorado


Eric Harris


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/08/Dylan_Klebold.JPG/200px-Dylan_Klebold.JPG)



(http://Dylan Klebold)

(http://www.nndb.com/people/922/000110592/dylan-klebold.jpg)











Sept 11, 2001    2,753 died   World Trade Centers     new york New York



GWB




(http://www.picanese.com/pbpics/george-w-bush-flipping-a-finger-stjw.jpg)



THE WHITE MENACE MUST BE STOPPED. FEMA CAMPS AND SLAVE LABOR!


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2012, 10:12:16 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster



1927 bombing of school   - 38 dead


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 17, 2012, 10:19:46 AM
Notice they mostly all have those fucked up crazy eyes. Time to start picking out the crazy eyed people and liquidating them.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2012, 10:50:53 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster



1927 bombing of school   - 38 dead

Thank you for putting some perspective on this. Crazy people doing horrific things is not something new.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2012, 10:55:41 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanzas-former-babysitter-speaks-2012-12


They all knew 


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Heywood on December 17, 2012, 10:57:17 AM
Thank you for putting some perspective on this. Crazy people doing horrific things is not something new.

Perspective? 

When you have to go back almost 100 years to find something to compare it with?

Looks like a lot more crazies now....



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2012, 11:00:20 AM
Perspective? 

When you have to go back almost 100 years to find something to compare it with?

Looks like a lot more crazies now....



Yeah and?  A lot more people on drugs, poor, depressed, than ever. 

Read this - they all knew

http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanzas-former-babysitter-speaks-2012-12



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2012, 11:02:29 AM
Perspective? 

When you have to go back almost 100 years to find something to compare it with?

Looks like a lot more crazies now....



Of course it does. And in terms of numbers, you may be right. I am not sure there are anymore crazy people per capita though. A bigger percentage are probably walking among us since we used to institutionalize nut cases. Why a 100 years? It would seem relevant to look at this generation by generation.

Another thing is that media coverage of these events are totally in-our-face, total saturation. This is very different from previous times.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 17, 2012, 11:06:22 AM






What a FUCKING KUNT WOMAN! Typical Cheap Rich DumbFuck whore, Wouldnt spend $600 on  Good Costco Vault Safe to store her guns






 :(
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/12/17/1217-adam-lanza-and-mom-abc-3.jpg)


The divorce papers of Adam Lanza's parents reveal nothing that would indicate their son had mental issues.

TMZ has obtained the divorce docs between Peter and Nancy Lanza.  The docs were filed in 2008 and the divorce became final the next year.

One thing's for sure ... the family was financially well off.  Peter agreed to pay Nancy $240,000 a year in spousal support for 2010. The yearly spousal support was to increase each year. In 2012 Nancy was to receive $289,800.


There is no mention or indication of any mental health issues involving Adam.  There is a boilerplate reference, "The wife shall pay for unreimbursed medical, surgical, hospital, optical and psychiatric, psychological, and nursing expenses..."  It continues, "Each parent shall be entitled to complete information from any physician, dentist, psychologist, consultant, or any specialist attending the children."

It's important to note ... the provisions (above) are standard and do not reflect specifically on this divorce.

And, in the docs, Peter agreed to buy Adam a car.  Adam reportedly drove his mom's car to Sandy Hook Elementary school before going on his rampage.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2FKyvMVgp


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2012, 11:09:38 AM
Yeah and?  A lot more people on drugs, poor, depressed, than ever. 

Read this - they all knew

http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanzas-former-babysitter-speaks-2012-12



I'll agree that there are likely a lot more addicted people. Drug use creates a whole different set of problems, many of which contribute to the high crime rate we are experiencing. I am not sure they are a major factor in cases where there is a psychotic break and the person shoots up a crowd, although anything is possible. I've been told people on amphetamines are particularly dangers because they believe they can do anything and sometimes seem to have superhuman powers as a result.

The fact that a lot of people say they knew something was wrong with Adam Lanzas in reflection may be significant and may not be. It is easier to make statements like this after the fact then to predict one's mental condition. Furthermore, many psychotic people can act pretty normal most of the time.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2012, 11:09:42 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanzas-former-babysitter-speaks-2012-12

They knew this guy was a monster






What a FUCKING KUNT WOMAN! Typical Cheap Rich DumbFuck whore, Wouldnt spend $600 on  Good Costco Vault Safe to store her guns






 :(
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/12/17/1217-adam-lanza-and-mom-abc-3.jpg)


The divorce papers of Adam Lanza's parents reveal nothing that would indicate their son had mental issues.

TMZ has obtained the divorce docs between Peter and Nancy Lanza.  The docs were filed in 2008 and the divorce became final the next year.

One thing's for sure ... the family was financially well off.  Peter agreed to pay Nancy $240,000 a year in spousal support for 2010. The yearly spousal support was to increase each year. In 2012 Nancy was to receive $289,800.


There is no mention or indication of any mental health issues involving Adam.  There is a boilerplate reference, "The wife shall pay for unreimbursed medical, surgical, hospital, optical and psychiatric, psychological, and nursing expenses..."  It continues, "Each parent shall be entitled to complete information from any physician, dentist, psychologist, consultant, or any specialist attending the children."

It's important to note ... the provisions (above) are standard and do not reflect specifically on this divorce.

And, in the docs, Peter agreed to buy Adam a car.  Adam reportedly drove his mom's car to Sandy Hook Elementary school before going on his rampage.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2FKyvMVgp



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 17, 2012, 11:18:26 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanzas-former-babysitter-speaks-2012-12

They knew this guy was a monster



nobody every listens to consuela since arnold gave her the cock



(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9jafjkE5O1qlawz5.jpg)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 17, 2012, 11:22:41 AM

nobody every listens to consuela since arnold gave her the cock



(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9jafjkE5O1qlawz5.jpg)
No......no......


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 17, 2012, 11:44:07 AM
Can you SPOT the killer ??? ???



(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02429/Adam-Lanza_2429494b.jpg)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2012, 11:47:39 AM
Can you SPOT the killer ??? ???



(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02429/Adam-Lanza_2429494b.jpg)

Mother could not even afford a hair cut on that monster?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 17, 2012, 11:47:43 AM
The Father ... PETER LANZA





(http://seemydeath.com/thumbnail.php?file=story%20images/Peter_Lanza_222187650.jpg&size=article_medium)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 17, 2012, 11:48:20 AM
The Father ... PETER LANZA





(http://seemydeath.com/thumbnail.php?file=story%20images/Peter_Lanza_222187650.jpg&size=article_medium)

Good looking older man.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 17, 2012, 11:49:52 AM
Mother could not even afford a hair cut on that monster?


LMFAO


Looks like he is waring a darth vader helmet


(http://www.starwarshelmets.com/jbvadbaden11.JPG)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2012, 11:50:46 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/america-the-horror-show-2012-12


Good essay


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 17, 2012, 11:51:29 AM
Can you SPOT the killer ??? ???



(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02429/Adam-Lanza_2429494b.jpg)

He is the only one NOT smiling!


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 17, 2012, 11:52:08 AM

LMFAO


Looks like he is waring a darth vader helmet


(http://www.starwarshelmets.com/jbvadbaden11.JPG)
Give yourself to the Dark Side.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 17, 2012, 11:52:48 AM
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/7d/a6/7da6964e07f27293b7fce925d2e93408.jpg)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Wiggs on December 17, 2012, 11:53:05 AM
Can you SPOT the killer ??? ???



(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02429/Adam-Lanza_2429494b.jpg)

All of the white ones.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 17, 2012, 11:54:18 AM
The sad thing is this kid must have weighed 100 pounds soaking wet. Man, all it would have taken is one getbigger with big muscles to wrestle this kid to the ground and subdue him.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: LittleJ on December 17, 2012, 11:56:43 AM
Mother could not even afford a hair cut on that monster?

Why do white people commit these horrible crimes? There's got to be a reason for this.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2012, 11:57:33 AM
Why do white people commit these horrible crimes? There's got to be a reason for this.

Don't know - maybe their pissed off we have a black prez? :P


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2012, 11:58:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDkhzHQO7jY


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 17, 2012, 11:59:14 AM
Why do white people commit these horrible crimes? There's got to be a reason for this.

For whites it's like the hockey of crime.  Blacks dominate all other crimes so its the only one we have left.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: chaos on December 17, 2012, 11:59:21 AM
Why do white people commit these horrible crimes? There's got to be a reason for this.
Your kind aren't smart enough to stop the car and get out?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: LittleJ on December 17, 2012, 12:04:07 PM
Your kind aren't smart enough to stop the car and get out?

I'm scared to send my child to a white school.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: LittleJ on December 17, 2012, 12:05:25 PM
All of the white ones.

 ;D


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 17, 2012, 12:06:05 PM
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/7d/a6/7da6964e07f27293b7fce925d2e93408.jpg)
So the rich are to blame, thats what you're saying. If there were no rich fuckers neglecting their kids, there wouldn't be mass shootings. I r in total agreement. Lets ban rich people.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: chaos on December 17, 2012, 12:06:21 PM
I'm scared to send my child to a white school.
The white school is scared to have your child


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 17, 2012, 12:07:17 PM
The white school is scared to have your child

Lol.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 17, 2012, 12:12:36 PM
So the rich are to blame, thats what you're saying. If there were no rich fuckers neglecting their kids, there wouldn't be mass shootings. I r in total agreement. Lets ban rich people.


She was Rich , but too dumb to buy a gun safe


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: LittleJ on December 17, 2012, 12:13:53 PM
The white school is scared to have your child


I doubt it. Last time I checked we wasn't shooting up schools.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 17, 2012, 12:18:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsPyuMGHNS4


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 17, 2012, 12:18:36 PM
I doubt it. Last time I checked we wasn't shooting up schools.

Can't shoot up something you dropped out of when you were 14.  ::)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 17, 2012, 12:19:59 PM
I doubt it. Last time I checked we wasn't shooting up schools.

Probably because it is in fact a school.  Now cigarettes and shoes be worth dying fo.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: chaos on December 17, 2012, 12:20:30 PM
I doubt it. Last time I checked we wasn't shooting up schools.
That's because all the schools in your neighborhood already have armed guards and metal detectors.  ::)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 17, 2012, 12:20:44 PM
Probably because it is in fact a school.  Now cigarettes and shoes be worth dying fo.
Lol


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 17, 2012, 12:22:05 PM
The white school is scared to have your child

LOL


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: CalvinH on December 17, 2012, 12:26:00 PM
Can't tell you what a mess it is here in CT.
so many stories.some say he shot his way into the school.the head of the school made an annoucment over the loud speaker warning students and teachers or more would have been killed?

the do say that a teacher a 27 year old female was found shot in a position that showed she hearded her students behind her to protect them and the fucker shot her and then all the kids behind her.

a local church was evacuated when holding a mass in memory someone called the church and said the job wasn't finished.

the killer walked into a Dicks sporting good and tried to buy a rifle and when told he had to go through a waiting period he walked out.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: LittleJ on December 17, 2012, 12:27:13 PM
That's because all the schools in your neighborhood already have armed guards and metal detectors.  ::)

I lived in a white neighborhood as a child and went to a white highschool.  ???


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 17, 2012, 12:27:53 PM
I lived in a white neighborhood as a child and went to a white highschool.  ???

Affirmative Action?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 17, 2012, 12:28:32 PM
I lived in a white neighborhood as a child and went to a white highschool.  ???
Adopted?  :D


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: LittleJ on December 17, 2012, 12:37:02 PM
Adopted?  :D

lol

It's funny it was more crime at my white HS than at the black middle school I went to.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 17, 2012, 12:41:48 PM
lol

It's funny it was more crime at my white HS than at the black middle school I went to.

I doubt that very much.  Too convenient. I went to predominately black schools and for a while a white school and there is no question that the black school had considerably more crime.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 17, 2012, 01:01:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YersIyzsOpc


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 17, 2012, 01:05:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFMs2w9Qexg


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 17, 2012, 02:00:39 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8t59jorH2DM/TQ_HQi3UZXI/AAAAAAAAFv4/SDxWse1bTjQ/s400/gun_free_zone.jpg)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2012, 02:10:52 PM
I doubt it. Last time I checked we wasn't shooting up schools.

"we wasn't"?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 17, 2012, 02:12:35 PM
"we wasn't"?

That's because blacks don't know where the skoolz iz


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 17, 2012, 02:18:11 PM
It sucks for the parents.  A lot of lives fucked up because of this.  Sure it is 20 dead, but hundreds will suffer for the longest time.  The parents, siblings, friends.  Just sad.  What about the kid that saw his friend get 11 shots to the chest?  you don't think he's going to grow up all fucked up now?  How many teachers are going to jump on meds and die of OD.  There will be a trail of pain for years.

The USA should just remove the Lanza family tree for retribution.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 17, 2012, 04:11:23 PM
David Icke also believes lizard people run planet Earth, and he is serious!  David Icke is a classic example that not all nutjobs go on mass shooting sprees!  Don't get me wrong, I like David, but he is batshit CRAZY!

Lizard people is his code for Jews...He hasn't said this but you have to read between the lines. He knows saying this about the Jews would kill him.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 17, 2012, 06:15:56 PM
Lizard people is his code for Jews...He hasn't said this but you have to read between the lines. He knows saying this about the Jews would kill him.
I wish that was true, David already openly criticizes the JEWS, but David has talked in great detail and deep seriousness how lizards are running the world.  He genuinely believes it. Icke believes reptilians from the constellation Draco, who walk on two legs and appear human, and who live in tunnels and caverns inside the earth. He argues that the reptilians are the race of gods known as the Anunnaki in the Babylonian creation myth, Enûma Eliš. According to Barkun, Icke's idea of "inner-earth reptilians".   Icke argues that they came specifically for "monoatomic gold," a mineral he says can increase the carrying capacity of the nervous system ten thousandfold. After ingesting it, the reptilians can process vast amounts of information, speed up trans-dimensional travel, and shapeshift from reptilian to human form.

Icke writes that the Anunnaki have crossbred with human beings, the breeding lines chosen for political reasons, arguing that they are the Watchers, the fallen angels, or "Grigori," who mated with human women in the Biblical apocrypha. Their first reptilian-human hybrid, possibly Adam, was created 200,000–300,000 years ago. There was a second breeding program 30,000 years ago, and a third 7,000 years ago. It is the half-bloods of the third breeding program who today control the world, more Anunnaki than human, he writes. They have a powerful, hypnotic stare, the origin of the phrase to "give someone the evil eye," and their hybrid DNA allows them to shapeshift when they consume human blood

Hate to say it, David is a massive Nutter!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg_3cTH16dQ


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2012, 06:16:19 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 17, 2012, 06:17:55 PM
;D


QFT



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 17, 2012, 06:47:10 PM
;D

Never mind all the Obama conspiracy bullshit. Now this is a legitimate complaint. What a fucking debacle that was/is.     


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Stefano on December 17, 2012, 06:49:27 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8t59jorH2DM/TQ_HQi3UZXI/AAAAAAAAFv4/SDxWse1bTjQ/s400/gun_free_zone.jpg)

Funny


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 17, 2012, 07:02:32 PM
Pearl River, MS High School Massacre.

Never happened because the 16 year old perp was stopped by Asst Principal Joel Myrick and his trusty .45.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 17, 2012, 07:02:53 PM
Funny


until one teacher loses his mind and shoots his students. we can argue till we are blue in the face, no easy solution.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2012, 08:18:34 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-adam-lanza-could-not-feel-physical-pain-2012-12


Freak of nature


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2012, 08:31:07 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-adam-lanza-could-not-feel-physical-pain-2012-12


Freak of nature

-Read the article. In the article it states that there is no correlation between not feeling physical pain and violent behavior.

A lot of folks are searching for a reason for Adam Lanza's  horrific actions. I suspect this is a natural response to a situation like this, because it helps people imagine way to protect themselves and their love ones from future incidents, such as these. Unfortunately, the answers we seek won't be conclusive and won't protect us from the next Adam Lanza, should we be in their path of destruction.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: garebear on December 17, 2012, 09:08:03 PM
Pearl River, MS High School Massacre.

Never happened because the 16 year old perp was stopped by Asst Principal Joel Myrick and his trusty .45.
Hey, one out of fifty ain't bad.

Why change anything?

Maybe we should get rid of seatbelts in cars, since not wearing one saves somebody once in a great while.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 17, 2012, 09:09:11 PM
Maybe we should get rid of seatbelts in cars, since not wearing one saves somebody once in a great while.
Huh? Logic fail bro, massive logic fail.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Maddy on December 17, 2012, 09:15:47 PM
Hey, one out of fifty ain't bad.

Why change anything?

Maybe we should get rid of seatbelts in cars, since not wearing one saves somebody once in a great while.

garebear
why do you
avoid the
questions about
your checkered
past


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 17, 2012, 09:43:13 PM
Hey, one out of fifty ain't bad.

Why change anything?

Maybe we should get rid of seatbelts in cars, since not wearing one saves somebody once in a great while.
Seatbelts should not be required to wear in a car.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: garebear on December 17, 2012, 09:47:25 PM
garebear
why do you
avoid the
questions about
your checkered
past
Why did you rape your nephew?



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 17, 2012, 10:18:41 PM
Seatbelts should not be required to wear in a car.

I live in CT and only driver/front passanger is required by law to have a seatbelt. if your 18+ and in the back seat you dont need to wear one. the law might have changed though.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 18, 2012, 12:44:29 AM
I think speed limits should be removed, millions of people speed and never kill anybody, why punish the responsible speeders?  Only a tiny fraction of people are killed by speeders, you have more chance of being hit by lighting.  As a matter of fact, speeding has helped prevent accidents, as matter of fact if a responsible speeder wants to catch a dangerous one, he needs to speed (responsibly of course).  Speed Limits is just another way of infringing on personal freedom, and for what, to save a few lives!


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: garebear on December 18, 2012, 02:12:56 AM
I think speed limits should be removed, millions of people speed and never kill anybody, why punish the responsible speeders?  Only a tiny fraction of people are killed by speeders, you have more chance of being hit by lighting.  As a matter of fact, speeding has helped prevent accidents, as matter of fact if a responsible speeder wants to catch a dangerous one, he needs to speed (responsibly of course).  Speed Limits is just another way of infringing on personal freedom, and for what, to save a few lives!
Haha.

Good post.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 18, 2012, 07:10:42 AM
Hey, one out of fifty ain't bad.

Why change anything?

Maybe we should get rid of seatbelts in cars, since not wearing one saves somebody once in a great while.

I don't care if you wear your seat belt, I don't care if you put batteries in your fire alarms, I don't care if you have a fire extinguisher in your kitchen. You make your own decisions and you live with them.

What I care about is people like you who think you have the right to limit someone else's rights.



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 18, 2012, 07:19:51 AM
I think speed limits should be removed, millions of people speed and never kill anybody, why punish the responsible speeders?  Only a tiny fraction of people are killed by speeders, you have more chance of being hit by lighting.  As a matter of fact, speeding has helped prevent accidents, as matter of fact if a responsible speeder wants to catch a dangerous one, he needs to speed (responsibly of course).  Speed Limits is just another way of infringing on personal freedom, and for what, to save a few lives!

Thats the thing. People are saying that their rights are being taken away by gun control or whatever. Do people realize just how many of our rights are already taken away. As you stated sarcastically, you cannot go over the speed limit without potentially getting fined. So many things already limit our freedom.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 18, 2012, 07:23:17 AM
Thats the thing. People are saying that their rights are being taken away by gun control or whatever. Do people realize just how many of our rights are already taken away. As you stated sarcastically, you cannot go over the speed limit without potentially getting fined. So many things already limit our freedom.


So just give up more in the false hope of security ? 


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 18, 2012, 08:35:20 AM
I live in CT and only driver/front passanger is required by law to have a seatbelt. if your 18+ and in the back seat you dont need to wear one. the law might have changed though.
Seatbelts should be a personal choice and not be required. 


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 18, 2012, 08:38:18 AM
Seatbelts should be a personal choice and not be required. 
Agree. People's lives should be up to them.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: chaos on December 18, 2012, 09:21:22 AM
Thats the thing. People are saying that their rights are being taken away by gun control or whatever. Do people realize just how many of our rights are already taken away. As you stated sarcastically, you cannot go over the speed limit without potentially getting fined. So many things already limit our freedom.
Exactly. And people like you are fine giving up certain rights as long as they don't affect you. ::)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 18, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
Thats the thing. People are saying that their rights are being taken away by gun control or whatever. Do people realize just how many of our rights are already taken away. As you stated sarcastically, you cannot go over the speed limit without potentially getting fined. So many things already limit our freedom.
Whats your point?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 18, 2012, 10:14:24 AM
But some gun advocates, like Republican Representative Louis Gohmert of Texas, are saying that the shooting could have been prevented if more responsible adults in the area -- like principal Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed when she confronted the gunman -- had been armed themselves.

"I wish to God she had had an M-4 in her office, locked up so when she heard gunfire, she pulls it out and she didn't have to lunge heroically with nothing in her hands," he told Fox News on Sunday. "But she takes him (the shooter) out, takes his head off before he can kill those precious kids."


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 18, 2012, 10:19:03 AM
But some gun advocates, like Republican Representative Louis Gohmert of Texas, are saying that the shooting could have been prevented if more responsible adults in the area -- like principal Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed when she confronted the gunman -- had been armed themselves.

"I wish to God she had had an M-4 in her office, locked up so when she heard gunfire, she pulls it out and she didn't have to lunge heroically with nothing in her hands," he told Fox News on Sunday. "But she takes him (the shooter) out, takes his head off before he can kill those precious kids."
I love how they go straight to the M4. Not a pistol locked in the desk, no, an M4 carbine. Lol. I guess that's part of the reason they get so demonized.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 18, 2012, 10:20:25 AM
But some gun advocates, like Republican Representative Louis Gohmert of Texas, are saying that the shooting could have been prevented if more responsible adults in the area -- like principal Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed when she confronted the gunman -- had been armed themselves.

"I wish to God she had had an M-4 in her office, locked up so when she heard gunfire, she pulls it out and she didn't have to lunge heroically with nothing in her hands," he told Fox News on Sunday. "But she takes him (the shooter) out, takes his head off before he can kill those precious kids."

good idea, an M4 in each classroom. why not go farther and give each kid a glock? instead of health class it can be called "shootin classg". how dumb are these people?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 18, 2012, 10:33:05 AM
good idea, an M4 in each classroom. why not go farther and give each kid a glock? instead of health class it can be called "shootin classg". how dumb are these people?
In High School I had an Archery Class, I don`t recall anyone ever using a bow and arrow other than to hit the targets.  :)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 18, 2012, 10:35:00 AM
In High School I had an Archery Class, I don`t recall anyone ever using a bow and arrow other than to hit the targets.  :)
But, like, thats different, because thats a sport.

/sarcasm


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Jack T. Cross on December 18, 2012, 10:38:31 AM
Thats the thing. People are saying that their rights are being taken away by gun control or whatever. Do people realize just how many of our rights are already taken away. As you stated sarcastically, you cannot go over the speed limit without potentially getting fined. So many things already limit our freedom.

How profound.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 18, 2012, 10:45:28 AM
But, like, thats different, because thats a sport.

/sarcasm

m4 vs a dull arrow and cheap bow? ehhh


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 18, 2012, 10:58:27 AM
m4 vs a dull arrow and cheap bow? ehhh
My point was that shooting is also a sport. Not the M4 itself, having an M4 for a school target shooting class would not quiet fit.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Rami on December 18, 2012, 11:22:13 AM
Seatbelts should be a personal choice and not be required. 

I used to agree with you.

But with nationalized healthcare in place, everyone foots the bill. Government will have a lot more to say about how to live your life as peoples health affect government expenditures.

Before it was more up to the insurance companies to inform and push for more regulations and laws.

Now that the government pays a bigger part they will simply force you do behave as they see fit.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 18, 2012, 11:22:28 AM
Source: CT Murderer Lived in Windowless Basement Playing Violent Video Games
 Andrew Brietbart's Big Government ^ | 18 Dec 2012, 7:21 AM PDT | Tony Lee


Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 1:18:09



Adam Lanza, the shooter who massacred 20 children and six adults last Friday at Sandy Hook Elementary School, spent hours in the windowless basement of his home playing violent video games like "Call of Duty" and obsessing over "guns and military equipment."

Peter Wlasuk, a plumber who worked at the Lanza home, told The Sun that Lanza "lived in the basement" and he found it "strange."

"He had a proper set up down there — computers, a bathroom, bed and desk and a TV," Wlasuk said. "There were no windows.”

Wlasuk said he went down to the basement on numerous occasions while doing work at Lanza's home and said Lanza also had a "huge poster with every tank ever made" and another one with "every piece of military equipment the U.S. ever made." He said the Lanza brothers could tell "you about guns they had never seen from the 40s, 50s and 60s."

Lanza was suspected of being mentally ill and may have had Asperger's. His high school assigned him to a counselor because they feared he may harm himself but not others.

According to reports, Lanza's mother was a "a gun enthusiast who owned at least five weapons" and "took her younger son to a local firing range just days before the rampage."

A family friend told NBC that Lanza's mother said she wanted to introduce Adam to guns to teach him a "sense of responsibility."

“Guns require a lot of respect and she really tried to instill that," the friend said. "And he took to it. He loved being careful with them. He made it a source of pride.”


(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 18, 2012, 11:27:30 AM
40 pages and you guys are using the same arguments that you used the last time there was a mass shooting. The gun control 'war' ended years ago and the pro-weapons side handily won. The cost exacted was/will be more of these type events. Live with it.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 18, 2012, 11:29:17 AM
40 pages and you guys are using the same arguments that you used the last time there was a mass shooting. The gun control 'war' ended years ago and the pro-weapons side handily won. The cost exacted was/will be more of these type events. Live with it.

So you blame the gun and not the murderer? 


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 18, 2012, 11:31:31 AM
So you blame the gun and not the murderer? 
You're exactly the type of person that should be nowhere near an inquiry into gun violence, let alone an actual weapon.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 18, 2012, 11:33:08 AM
40 pages and you guys are using the same arguments that you used the last time there was a mass shooting. The gun control 'war' ended years ago and the pro-weapons side handily won. The cost exacted was/will be more of these type events. Live with it.
I think that's a pretty broad statement.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 18, 2012, 11:33:17 AM
You're exactly the type of person that should be nowhere near an inquiry into gun violence, let alone an actual weapon.

The genie is long at the lamp monkey brains


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 18, 2012, 11:39:19 AM
The Antipsychotic Prescribed To Adam Lanza Has A Troubled History All Its Own
Geoffrey Ingersoll|3 minutes ago|7|
 



By now the whole country is fully embroiled in the Gun Control debate, spurred by the grisly murder of 27 people, mostly kids, at the Sandy Hook Elementary school last Friday.
 
Guns might not be the only problem though.
 
New York Magazine wrote a piece about shooter Adam Lanza's supposed "aspergers" syndrome as a "red herring" meant to distract from the real problem (guns, of course, but doesn't say so).
 
Inside the piece though they report Adam Lanza's uncle said the boy was prescribed Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine.
 
Fanapt was the subject of a Examiner report titled, "Fanapt: The Rise And Fall Of The Antipsychotic," which was basically a take down of the whole industry. Why, you might ask?
 
Because Fanapt is one of a many drugs the FDA pumped out with an ability to exact the opposite desired effect on people: that is, you know, inducing rather than inhibiting psychosis and aggressive behavior.
 
In fact, Fanapt was dropped by its first producer, picked up by another, initially rejected by the FDA, then later picked up and mass produced. The adverse side-effect is said to be "infrequent," but still it exists, and can't be ignored.
 
The reaction invoked by the drug in some people is reminiscent of the Jeffrey R. MacDonald case, where a Green Beret slaughtered his entire family and then fabricated a story about a marauding troop of "hopped up hippies".
 
MacDonald though, had Eskatrol in his system, a weight-loss amphetamine that's since been banned in part for its side effects of psychotic behavior and aggression.
 
These drugs are not the only ones that can cause the opposite of their desired affect. Several anti-depressant medications are also restricted to adults for the depression they inspire in kids rather than eliminate.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanza-taking-antipsychotic-fanapt-2012-12#ixzz2FQymrDRp



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 18, 2012, 11:46:00 AM
I think that's a pretty broad statement.
Well. Wait for the next one, and see the same people spewing the same arguments.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 18, 2012, 11:46:23 AM
Killer’s data destruction: Adam Lanza smashed hard drive before massacre
By JEANE MACINTOSH
Last Updated: 10:33 AM, December 18, 2012
Posted: 12:30 AM, December 18, 2012



 
Before he set off on his heinous rampage, Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza tried to cover his deadly tracks by smashing the hard drive of at least one of his cherished computers, according to investigators.

The shattered drive was recovered during a search of the home of Nancy Lanza, the killer’s doting mom — and his first victim.

Forensics experts were trying yesterday to piece the broken hard drive together, hoping it will help reveal clues about the horrific Sandy Hook Elementary School slaughter, which left 20 little kids and six educators dead.



It is unclear whether information could be retrieved from the battered drive.

Police have declined specific comment on any evidence gathered at the school or Nancy Lanza’s home and said they were not yet ready to discuss a possible motive.

A source told the Connecticut Post that medications usually prescribed for mental illness were not found at the home.

Investigators are trying determine if Lanza was being treated for a medical or psychiatric ailment, and what, if anything, was prescribed, the source told the paper.

Lanza's parents had previously told poeple their son had Asperger's syndrome, a form of high-functioning autism, but it is unclear if he had ever been formally diagnosed.

Last night that investigators also seized cellphones and computer games.

"It's pretty clear he was an avid gamer," a source told the paper.

"Many of these games are very, very violent," FBI investigator Robert Paquette told the Post. "I can't help but believe these can affect the minds of someone unbalanced."

Adam’s father, Peter, a tax expert, and older brother, Ryan, 24, have spent hours answering questions for state and federal investigators but have been unable to shed any light on what sparked Adam’s deadly rage.

“In all that time, they got no real information that could help figure this out,” one source familiar with the interviews told The Post.

Nancy Lanza — who was shot in the head four times by her son before his schoolhouse massacre — gave no indication she thought he was about to snap, friends said.

Diagnosed with the autism-related Asperger’s syndrome and afflicted with a medical condition that kept him from feeling physical pain, Adam Lanza had lived with his mother since his parents’ amicable 2009 divorce.

The Lanzas’ divorce mediator, Paula Levy, yesterday said both parents were concerned about getting the best care and attention for their troubled son. Nancy Lanza got $289,800 a year in alimony and shared custody of Adam, court records show.

“The only two things I remember them saying is that she really didn’t like to leave him alone. And I know they went out of their way to accommodate him,” said Levy.

Adam Lanza, 20, spent much of his time at his mom’s home alone in one of two bedrooms he used, either reading or on his computers, friends said.

“He was always home at 11,” Nancy Lanza’s friend Ellen Adriani said. “Nancy said he was a night owl. He tended to stay up and read into the morning.

“It was unusual,” Adriani noted of the morning Lanza unleashed his evil fury, for Adam “to be up that early.”

When Adam was in high school, he was also given extra supervision by teachers and staff.

Former Newtown HS security head Richard Novia saidNancy Lanza met with counselors and administrators to find ways to keep him safe. Novia said Lanza was such an awkward misfit that he worried the boy would be bullied, but that he wasn’t a threat to others.

“He would have an episode, and she’d have to return or come to the high school and deal with it,” Novia said, noting that Adam Lanza would sometime completely withdraw from tasks.

“We were worried about him being the victim, or that he could hurt himself” Novia said.

Meanwhile, Adam’s former childhood babysitter, Ryan Kraft, recalled that Nancy Lanza was insistent that he watch her quiet, introverted son like a hawk.

“[She said] to keep an eye on him at all times,” Kraft told CBS. “To never turn my back, or even to go to the bathroom or anything like that.”

Additional reporting by Jennifer Bain, Josh Margolin and AP


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nomad on December 18, 2012, 11:48:40 AM
But some gun advocates, like Republican Representative Louis Gohmert of Texas, are saying that the shooting could have been prevented if more responsible adults in the area -- like principal Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed when she confronted the gunman -- had been armed themselves.

"I wish to God she had had an M-4 in her office, locked up so when she heard gunfire, she pulls it out and she didn't have to lunge heroically with nothing in her hands," he told Fox News on Sunday. "But she takes him (the shooter) out, takes his head off before he can kill those precious kids."

How is that funny? The idea that teachers should have ( while not an M4) but some weapon to defend themselves in situations like these is funny to you?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 18, 2012, 11:48:47 AM
Man... que the violent video game excuses. Anything to take away from the fact that the kid was a goddamn headcase.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 18, 2012, 11:51:36 AM
Here we go with the Video Games.  ::)  I hate when people don`t know what they are talking about.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nomad on December 18, 2012, 11:59:31 AM
Man... que the violent video game excuses. Anything to take away from the fact that the kid was a goddamn headcase.

Chyeahh....blaming video is plain stupid now considering millions of kids, teens and young adults play them.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 18, 2012, 11:59:56 AM
Chyeahh....blaming video is plain stupid now considering millions of kids, teens and young adults play them.

Same for guns.   



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 18, 2012, 12:33:19 PM
do you think there should be any laws at all?

every law infringes some freedom somehow for someone.

but without law, there can be no freedom
The laws are fine how they are.  No need to change anything. 


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Rudee on December 18, 2012, 12:39:14 PM
Perhaps this tragedy would of never happened if the owner of the firearms used in the crime had the guns secured locked or stored in a gun safe, where the owner is the only person with the combination.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 18, 2012, 12:56:01 PM
For all the people who think we should get rid of all guns from society...Would you be opposed of getting rid of a certain ethnic group or groups who statistically do most of the crimes?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 18, 2012, 12:57:18 PM




They Need To Ban Woman from owning GUNS, Adam's Whore mother should be More Concerned on how to fire a Stove then a motha fucking Pistol







(http://www.randomfunnypicture.com/pictures/1222see-that-get-back-in-kitchen.jpg)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 18, 2012, 01:44:00 PM
How is that funny? The idea that teachers should have ( while not an M4) but some weapon to defend themselves in situations like these is funny to you?


Yes killer, it's funny, it's comedy gold. It's should be on Dave Letterman's top-10 it's so fucking funny.

"The principal ran to her gun safe, took out her machine gun and killed the intruder." Then she went back to setting up the PTA meeting and arranging for a Secret Santa gift exchange.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 18, 2012, 01:45:05 PM
 ;)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 18, 2012, 01:49:26 PM



They Need To Ban Woman from owning GUNS, Adam's Whore mother should be More Concerned on how to fire a Stove then a motha fucking Pistol

I mean really. I live in CT been to places around New-town its the LAST place you need a gun!






(http://www.randomfunnypicture.com/pictures/1222see-that-get-back-in-kitchen.jpg)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: 240 is Back on December 18, 2012, 01:53:43 PM
One salaried cop at this elementary school for $40k a year would have prevented all of this.  when the kid had to use the rifle to blast his way thru the door, the office staff put the shooting on the intercom. 

everyone on that campus heard the shots.

no matter where the cop was on campus, he could have gotten to the office in less than a minute and engaged the shooter long before he made his way to the classrooms.  There would have been 2-4 dead.  And if the cop was in the office when the shooter blasted the door, the cop might have ended it there.

And the kid MIGHT have driven right past the school, if he knew that cop car parked out front meant he was looking at a gun battle, not a slaughter.


Cause really, a gun ban won't stop the next killer.  He could have made molotov cocktails and killed 100 without blinking.  but a cop would deter a lot of attackers of any variety.  It's common sense.  They spend MILLIONS on projectors and teacher salaries, but can't opt for a $40k salaried cop?   pathetic.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 18, 2012, 02:12:25 PM
NEWTOWN, Conn. –  The gunman who slaughtered 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school may have snapped because his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility, according to a lifelong resident of the area who was familiar with the killer’s family and several of the victims’ families.
 
Adam Lanza, 20, targeted Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown after killing his mother early Friday because he believed she loved the school “more than she loved him,” said Joshua Flashman, 25, who grew up not far from where the shooting took place. Flashman, a U.S. Marine, is the son of a pastor at an area church where many of the victims' families worship.
 
“From what I've been told, Adam was aware of her petitioning the court for conservatorship and (her) plans to have him committed," Flashman told FoxNews.com. "Adam was apparently very upset about this. He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry. I think this could have been it, what set him off.”
 
A senior law enforcement official involved in the investigation confirmed that Lanza's anger at his mother over plans for “his future mental health treatment” is being looked at as a possible motive for the deadly shooting.
 



"He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry."
 
- Joshua Flashman, Newtown resident familiar with Lanza family
 

Flashman was told Nancy Lanza had begun filing paperwork to get conservatorship over her troubled son, but that could not be confirmed because a court official told FoxNews.com such records are sealed. The move would have been necessary for her to gain the legal right to commit an adult to a hospital or psychiatric facility against his will. A competency hearing had not yet been held.
 
Adam Lanza attended the Sandy Hook School as a boy, according to Flashman, who said Nancy Lanza had volunteered there for several years. Two law enforcement sources said they believed Nancy Lanza had been volunteering with kindergartners at the school. Most of Lanza's victims were first graders sources believe Nancy Lanza may have worked with last year.
 
Flashman said Nancy Lanza was also good friends with the school’s principal and psychologist—both of whom were killed in the shooting rampage.
 
"Adam Lanza believed she cared more for the children than she did for him, and the reason he probably thought this [was the fact that] she was petitioning for conservatorship and wanted to have him committed," Flashman said. "I could understand how he might perceive that—that his mom loved him less than she loved the kids, loved the school. But she did love him. But he was a troubled kid and she probably just couldn’t take care of him by herself anymore."
 
The Washington Post reported that the distraught mother had considered moving with her son to Washington state, where she had found a school she thought could help him. Either way, according to Flashman, Nancy Lanza was at her wit's end.
 
A separate neighborhood source also told FoxNews.com that Nancy Lanza had come to the realization she could no longer handle her son alone. She was caring for him full-time, but told friends she needed help. She was planning to have him involuntarily hospitalized, according to the source, who did not know if she had taken formal steps.
 
SEND TIPS TO guy@FOXNEWS.COM
 
Multiple sources told FoxNews.com Adam Lanza suffered from Asperger’s syndrome , a form of autism, and other unspecified mental and emotional problems.
 
Adam Lanza has also been described by those who knew him as highly intelligent, and a spokesman for Western Connecticut State University told The Associated Press he took college classes there when he was 16, earning a 3.26 grade point average and excelling at a computer course.
 
Alan Diaz, 20, who was friends with Adam Lanza at Newtown High School, said the Lanza he knew was ill-at-ease socially, but not a monster.
 
"He was a wicked smart kid," Diaz told FoxNews.com by email. "When I first met him, he wouldn't even look at you when you tried to talk to him. Over the year I knew him, he became used to me and my other friends, he eventually could have full conversations with us.
 
"I've heard him laugh, he has even comforted me once in a hard time I had," Diaz said. “A big part of me wishes I never dropped contact with him after he left high school, felt like I could have done something."
 
Flashman said nobody will completely understand why Adam did what he did.
 
“No one can explain Adam Lanza besides God and Adam Lanza, and I don’t even think Adam Lanza could explain Adam Lanza, to be honest with you.”


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/18/fear-being-committed-may-have-caused-connecticut-madman-to-snap/#ixzz2FRbFtwnn



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Rudee on December 18, 2012, 03:33:49 PM
For all the people who think we should get rid of all guns from society...Would you be opposed of getting rid of a certain ethnic group or groups who statistically do most of the crimes?

I'd be all for that, even if gun crime wasn't an issue.   i.e. just for cosmetic changes. 


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 18, 2012, 03:34:24 PM
I'd be all for that, even if gun crime wasn't an issue.   i.e. just for cosmetic changes. 


 ::)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 18, 2012, 03:41:43 PM
One salaried cop at this elementary school for $40k a year would have prevented all of this.  when the kid had to use the rifle to blast his way thru the door, the office staff put the shooting on the intercom.  

everyone on that campus heard the shots.

no matter where the cop was on campus, he could have gotten to the office in less than a minute and engaged the shooter long before he made his way to the classrooms.  There would have been 2-4 dead.  And if the cop was in the office when the shooter blasted the door, the cop might have ended it there.

And the kid MIGHT have driven right past the school, if he knew that cop car parked out front meant he was looking at a gun battle, not a slaughter.


Cause really, a gun ban won't stop the next killer.  He could have made molotov cocktails and killed 100 without blinking.  but a cop would deter a lot of attackers of any variety.  It's common sense.  They spend MILLIONS on projectors and teacher salaries, but can't opt for a $40k salaried cop?   pathetic.

Yup, and i would say not even a cop, put two soldiers decked out in full combat gear with nice badass looking guns we are paying them anyway to hang around the base. make 'em Sergeant or above so they aren't two dumb kids.

some freak might think he will just take out one uniformed cop...but two soldiers changes the game

Give them those stupid "Paul Blart" things to ride around on too so they are mobile


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 18, 2012, 03:43:13 PM
I'd be all for that, even if gun crime wasn't an issue.   i.e. just for cosmetic changes. 

And which ethnic group would that be? In El Paso, TX where my daughter lives, most of the criminal activity involves Latinos, particularly those who come across the boarder from Ciudad Juarez in the Mexican state of Chihuahua. Mass killings there are a daily event. They are so commonplace they have ceased to be newsworthy. And who buys the drugs that are smuggled across the boarder? Rich white folks perhaps?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Rudee on December 18, 2012, 03:43:48 PM
How is that funny? The idea that teachers should have ( while not an M4) but some weapon to defend themselves in situations like these is funny to you?



Arming teachers in a confined place like a classroom full of kids is absolutely ridiculous.   9 innocent bystanders were wounded by bullets and debris when NYC cops open fired on a suspect outside a crowded Manhattan street this past August.  If trained Cops can injure 9 innocent bystanders in a crowded area with their guns, a gun toting teacher blasting away in a classroom full of panicking children could certainly be much worse.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 18, 2012, 04:02:12 PM
do you think there should be any laws at all? every law infringes some freedom somehow for someone. but without law, there can be no freedom

No, I do not believe in a lawless society. Laws infringe on the very people that are doing things that have been deemed by society to be illegal. I have done nothing illegal, so why should I give up my rights to protection, freedom, and the pursuit of happiness to appease a knee-jerk action by some politician that is trying to capitalize on a tragedy for their political gain? No fucking way is an Adminstration that armed Mexican drug cartels, so that they could come on American soil and kill Americans, is going to convince me that they know or care about gun control or gun safety.

I do not believe in politicians telling me I cannot look out for myself, think for myself, and that I pose a great danger to myself, so they will enact laws that suit them to "protect" me. Dianne Fucking Feinstein does not know what is best for me or how to protect me, nor is she willing to do anything to protect me. Her actions are to further her political career.

Just a bullshit smokescreen so that the underyling issue of mental illness gets hidden.



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: BB on December 18, 2012, 04:15:53 PM
I'm for arming the teachers. Run it somewhat like they do the armed pilots program, ask for volunteers, have them vetted and trained by the state and/or federal government, and offer them a slight bump in pay for additional service.

You save taxes, the kids won't be afraid or stand-offish because it a teacher they interact with everyday, etc.......



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 18, 2012, 04:41:29 PM
I'm for arming the teachers. Run it somewhat like they do the armed pilots program, ask for volunteers, have them vetted and trained by the state and/or federal government, and offer them a slight bump in pay for additional service.

You save taxes, the kids won't be afraid or stand-offish because it a teacher they interact with everyday, etc.......
Yes. Giving teachers a shoot-to-kill mandate is not insane.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nomad on December 18, 2012, 05:19:15 PM
Yes. Giving teachers a shoot-to-kill mandate is not insane.

Of course but giving the teachers the right to die defenseless is clearly not insane  ???


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nomad on December 18, 2012, 05:21:23 PM

Arming teachers in a confined place like a classroom full of kids is absolutely ridiculous.   9 innocent bystanders were wounded by bullets and debris when NYC cops open fired on a suspect outside a crowded Manhattan street this past August.  If trained Cops can injure 9 innocent bystanders in a crowded area with their guns, a gun toting teacher blasting away in a classroom full of panicking children could certainly be much worse.

So you are basing your argument of one case as an example?!?   ???


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: 240 is Back on December 18, 2012, 05:40:24 PM
I'm for arming the teachers. Run it somewhat like they do the armed pilots program, ask for volunteers, have them vetted and trained by the state and/or federal government, and offer them a slight bump in pay for additional service.

You save taxes, the kids won't be afraid or stand-offish because it a teacher they interact with everyday, etc.......



yep.  They have to keep concealed in thunderware.  kids woudl never know who was packing.  if they talk about it, they lose their job.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 18, 2012, 05:41:14 PM
Killer’s data destruction: Adam Lanza smashed hard drive before massacre
By JEANE MACINTOSH
Last Updated: 10:33 AM, December 18, 2012
Posted: 12:30 AM, December 18, 2012



 
Before he set off on his heinous rampage, Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza tried to cover his deadly tracks by smashing the hard drive of at least one of his cherished computers, according to investigators.

The shattered drive was recovered during a search of the home of Nancy Lanza, the killer’s doting mom — and his first victim.

Forensics experts were trying yesterday to piece the broken hard drive together, hoping it will help reveal clues about the horrific Sandy Hook Elementary School slaughter, which left 20 little kids and six educators dead.



It is unclear whether information could be retrieved from the battered drive.

Police have declined specific comment on any evidence gathered at the school or Nancy Lanza’s home and said they were not yet ready to discuss a possible motive.

A source told the Connecticut Post that medications usually prescribed for mental illness were not found at the home.

Investigators are trying determine if Lanza was being treated for a medical or psychiatric ailment, and what, if anything, was prescribed, the source told the paper.

Lanza's parents had previously told poeple their son had Asperger's syndrome, a form of high-functioning autism, but it is unclear if he had ever been formally diagnosed.

Last night that investigators also seized cellphones and computer games.

"It's pretty clear he was an avid gamer," a source told the paper.

"Many of these games are very, very violent," FBI investigator Robert Paquette told the Post. "I can't help but believe these can affect the minds of someone unbalanced."

Adam’s father, Peter, a tax expert, and older brother, Ryan, 24, have spent hours answering questions for state and federal investigators but have been unable to shed any light on what sparked Adam’s deadly rage.

“In all that time, they got no real information that could help figure this out,” one source familiar with the interviews told The Post.

Nancy Lanza — who was shot in the head four times by her son before his schoolhouse massacre — gave no indication she thought he was about to snap, friends said.

Diagnosed with the autism-related Asperger’s syndrome and afflicted with a medical condition that kept him from feeling physical pain, Adam Lanza had lived with his mother since his parents’ amicable 2009 divorce.

The Lanzas’ divorce mediator, Paula Levy, yesterday said both parents were concerned about getting the best care and attention for their troubled son. Nancy Lanza got $289,800 a year in alimony and shared custody of Adam, court records show.

“The only two things I remember them saying is that she really didn’t like to leave him alone. And I know they went out of their way to accommodate him,” said Levy.

Adam Lanza, 20, spent much of his time at his mom’s home alone in one of two bedrooms he used, either reading or on his computers, friends said.

“He was always home at 11,” Nancy Lanza’s friend Ellen Adriani said. “Nancy said he was a night owl. He tended to stay up and read into the morning.

“It was unusual,” Adriani noted of the morning Lanza unleashed his evil fury, for Adam “to be up that early.”

When Adam was in high school, he was also given extra supervision by teachers and staff.

Former Newtown HS security head Richard Novia saidNancy Lanza met with counselors and administrators to find ways to keep him safe. Novia said Lanza was such an awkward misfit that he worried the boy would be bullied, but that he wasn’t a threat to others.

“He would have an episode, and she’d have to return or come to the high school and deal with it,” Novia said, noting that Adam Lanza would sometime completely withdraw from tasks.

“We were worried about him being the victim, or that he could hurt himself” Novia said.

Meanwhile, Adam’s former childhood babysitter, Ryan Kraft, recalled that Nancy Lanza was insistent that he watch her quiet, introverted son like a hawk.

“[She said] to keep an eye on him at all times,” Kraft told CBS. “To never turn my back, or even to go to the bathroom or anything like that.”

Additional reporting by Jennifer Bain, Josh Margolin and AP


How do you babysit a kid for hours on end and not go to the bathroom? That's silly. Did she expect the babysitter to use a piss jug like many Getbiggers use?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: garebear on December 18, 2012, 08:42:39 PM
I’ve figured out how to solve this whole mess. The answer is more guns and more armed guards.

First – arm kindergarteners, elementary school students, high school students, anyone who goes to college. Arm teachers, postal employees, bus-drivers, hot dog vendors, Wal Mart clerks, ALL McDonald’s employees, pedestrians, drivers, bartenders, custodians, web-designers. Make sure that yoga instructors, waiters, waitresses, dry cleaners, barbers, beauticians, masseuses, welders, plumbers, carpenters, farmers, musicians, actors, directors, CEOs, accountants, mechanics, landlords, librarians, chemists, childcare workers, engineers, coaches, computer programmers, economists, editors, journalists, electricians, secretaries, real estate agents, referees and veterinarians are packing heat.

Second – place  ARMED GUARDS  in every office, bar, barbershop, school (K-Phd) – preferably one per classroom, library,  public restroom, movie theater, hospital, clinic, grocery store, hardware store, video store, coffee house, restaurant, outhouse,  shopping mall, post office, DMV, Dollar General Store, Sam’s Club, Wal Mart and bookstore.

But don’t even THINK about any kind of gun control. That would just be ridiculous.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Stefano on December 18, 2012, 08:51:41 PM
I'm for arming the teachers. Run it somewhat like they do the armed pilots program, ask for volunteers, have them vetted and trained by the state and/or federal government, and offer them a slight bump in pay for additional service.

You save taxes, the kids won't be afraid or stand-offish because it a teacher they interact with everyday, etc.......



Damn straight. We need to throw in some bladed weapns in addition to guns  for teach. For closeup work.
Ninja throwing stars, samurai swords...betcha the whole class would be quiet during lectures.



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 18, 2012, 08:53:23 PM
I’ve figured out how to solve this whole mess. The answer is more guns and more armed guards.

First – arm kindergarteners, elementary school students, high school students, anyone who goes to college. Arm teachers, postal employees, bus-drivers, hot dog vendors, Wal Mart clerks, ALL McDonald’s employees, pedestrians, drivers, bartenders, custodians, web-designers. Make sure that yoga instructors, waiters, waitresses, dry cleaners, barbers, beauticians, masseuses, welders, plumbers, carpenters, farmers, musicians, actors, directors, CEOs, accountants, mechanics, landlords, librarians, chemists, childcare workers, engineers, coaches, computer programmers, economists, editors, journalists, electricians, secretaries, real estate agents, referees and veterinarians are packing heat.

Second – place  ARMED GUARDS  in every office, bar, barbershop, school (K-Phd) – preferably one per classroom, library,  public restroom, movie theater, hospital, clinic, grocery store, hardware store, video store, coffee house, restaurant, outhouse,  shopping mall, post office, DMV, Dollar General Store, Sam’s Club, Wal Mart and bookstore.

But don’t even THINK about any kind of gun control. That would just be ridiculous.


I like it. But "Hot Dog vendors".  Everyone knows Hot Dog Vendors are crazy.  


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 18, 2012, 08:55:01 PM
We talk about firearms cause some nut used the guns his parents didnt safely lock... Very same parents who drove him mad in the first place...which means the real responsible are atheist parents who get divorced and destroy their kids in the process...are hypocritical atheists going to adress this? no..of course not...the problem are firearms right?

Now what about we talk about the fact that most of the year, millions of people have firearms yet NOTHING BAD HAPPEN probably most of the time cause they are christians -or not-. Yeah. Stop with the drama. The real problem nobody is going to face tho, is how our atheist society builds depressed kids , how parents abandon kids to TV which is filled with garbage.
Also why dont we talk about the fact that most murders are commited by black and mexican people all year long? Kids barely raised by shitty separated parents.

Our kids are left in front of screens , influenced by ideas, thoughts, images, videos, sounds, that are incredibly violent, hours a day for years and younger than ever, their parents dont care about them much, and you wonder why they re more violent than say, their ancestors 2 or three generations ago who werent exposed to all of that non sense and spent their days reading, thinking , spending time with loved ones, contributing, or ...working instead of having their brains passively filled with crap all day long?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 18, 2012, 09:01:16 PM
And anyone who thinks you can cross-train Elementary School teachers and administrators to be killers, or even competent body guards, why stop there?

Let's do this. . .

Train bus drivers to be neurosurgeons.

Train Professional Boxers to be dress designers

Train Structural Engineers to be Rock n' Roll Singers.



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: 240 is Back on December 18, 2012, 09:04:03 PM
I see nothing wrong with allowing city bus drivers to get their permits, get trained, and carry on their buses.   They see a crime, and they may be able to help.  There are probably people with far less training riding the bus packig heat.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: garebear on December 18, 2012, 09:06:19 PM
And anyone who thinks you can cross-train Elementary School teachers and administrators to be killers, or even competent body guards, why stop there?

Let's do this. . .

Train bus drivers to be neurosurgeons.

Train Professional Boxers to be dress designers

Train Structural Engineers to be Rock n' Roll Singers.


;D


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 18, 2012, 09:07:40 PM
We talk about firearms cause some nut used the guns his parents didnt safely lock... Very same parents who drove him mad in the first place...which means the real responsible are atheist parents who get divorced and destroy their kids in the process...are hypocritical atheists going to adress this? no..of course not...the problem are firearms right?

Now what about we talk about the fact that most of the year, millions of people have firearms yet NOTHING BAD HAPPEN probably most of the time cause they are christians -or not-. Yeah. Stop with the drama. The real problem nobody is going to face tho, is how our atheist society builds depressed kids , how parents abandon kids to TV which is filled with garbage.
Why dont we talk about the fact that most murders are commited by black and mexican people all year long?

Our kids are left in front of screens , influenced by ideas, thoughts, images, videos, sounds, that are incredibly violent, hours a day for years and younger than ever, their parents dont care about them much, and you wonder why they re more violent than say, their ancestors 2 or three generations ago who werent exposed to all of that non sense and spent their days reading, thinking , spending time with loved ones, contributing, or ...working?
(http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedImages/Topics/Issues/Social_Welfare/chaplains-chp4-2.png)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: BB on December 18, 2012, 09:08:44 PM
Meh.

There are an estimated 300,000,000 - 400,000,000 firearms in circulation in America. When the great Getbig braintrust figures out how to get those under control, plus the great underground economy that will spring up to accommodate those that won't giving a flying fuck about regulation...... The great gun control argument will warrant more that a shrug from me.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: BB on December 18, 2012, 09:16:25 PM
Damn straight. We need to throw in some bladed weapns in addition to guns  for teach. For closeup work.
Ninja throwing stars, samurai swords...betcha the whole class would be quiet during lectures.



People like to poke fun at it, but explain to me how a police officer, military, or armed security guard would work better than a Teacher trained to the same standard. Notice I didn't say to just allow teachers to strap up. You take a few trusted and willing aside, give them phys. evals, then have a police or federal firearms instructor teach them threat assessment, and shooting, and have them requalify every few months.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Natural Man on December 18, 2012, 09:19:54 PM
The only smart thing to do is to install guarded doors and metal detectors in all schools -and to punish anyone who let a stranger enter a school from somewhere else than this very same guarded door, with death penalty- period. Will give some jobs to a lot of people in the process.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Quickerblade on December 18, 2012, 10:08:41 PM
Who let the guy in? was it the Principal? either way he would of shot his way in.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Stefano on December 18, 2012, 10:10:57 PM
The only smart thing to do is to install guarded doors and metal detectors in all schools -and to punish anyone who let a stranger enter a school from somewhere else than this very same guarded door, with death penalty- period. Will give some jobs to a lot of people in the process.

Dont most schools have metal detectors already? Doesnt stop the crazies.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 18, 2012, 10:45:59 PM
Radio stations are now pulling this whores song not because it sucks or what not , but because her lyrics in the say say "lets make the most of the night like we are going to die young"

Song was probably recorded over a year ago


America  ::)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOubzHCUt48


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 18, 2012, 11:05:02 PM
We talk about firearms cause some nut used the guns his parents didnt safely lock... Very same parents who drove him mad in the first place...which means the real responsible are atheist parents who get divorced and destroy their kids in the process...are hypocritical atheists going to adress this? no..of course not...the problem are firearms right?

Now what about we talk about the fact that most of the year, millions of people have firearms yet NOTHING BAD HAPPEN probably most of the time cause they are christians -or not-. Yeah. Stop with the drama. The real problem nobody is going to face tho, is how our atheist society builds depressed kids , how parents abandon kids to TV which is filled with garbage.
Also why dont we talk about the fact that most murders are commited by black and mexican people all year long? Kids barely raised by shitty separated parents.

Our kids are left in front of screens , influenced by ideas, thoughts, images, videos, sounds, that are incredibly violent, hours a day for years and younger than ever, their parents dont care about them much, and you wonder why they re more violent than say, their ancestors 2 or three generations ago who werent exposed to all of that non sense and spent their days reading, thinking , spending time with loved ones, contributing, or ...working?

Sigh. The young man had aspergers syndrom a milder form of autism. This is not a condition which is a result of bad parenting.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 19, 2012, 04:20:32 AM
Of course but giving the teachers the right to die defenseless is clearly not insane  ???
This answer is insane. Is this really how your mind works?   :-\


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Ropo on December 19, 2012, 04:46:55 AM

Arming teachers in a confined place like a classroom full of kids is absolutely ridiculous.   9 innocent bystanders were wounded by bullets and debris when NYC cops open fired on a suspect outside a crowded Manhattan street this past August.  If trained Cops can injure 9 innocent bystanders in a crowded area with their guns, a gun toting teacher blasting away in a classroom full of panicking children could certainly be much worse.

And you say that without any knowledge how many cops (2) fired their guns, and without understanding that the situation in the classroom isn't same than in the hallway full of panicking people. Furthermore, these cowards doesn't attack if there is possibility to encounter the gunfire, so the teacher doesn't even have to shoot to keep these cowards away. Carrying gun is enough to stop these crimes altogether. 


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nomad on December 19, 2012, 06:17:45 AM
This answer is insane. Is this really how your mind works?   :-\

Because giving teacher back their 2nd amendment rights and the ability to defend themselves and the little kids is insane. Honesly now I have to question how your mind works because you seem to have an issue with human beings defending themselves when faced with deadly threats. Leaving the current laws intact and giving teachers and their students the right to die defenseless is not insane but allowing them to conceal carry and shoot back at maniacs is insane in your mind?


Stop pretending to be intelligent. You can hide behind your grammar abilities all you want but you are still the approximate equal of that ape in your profile picture in terms of intelligence.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 19, 2012, 06:29:22 AM
Because giving teacher back their 2nd amendment rights and the ability to defend themselves and the little kids is insane. Honesly now I have to question how your mind works because you seem to have an issue with human beings defending themselves when faced with deadly threats. Leaving the current laws intact and giving teachers and their students the right to die defenseless is not insane but allowing them to conceal carry and shoot back at maniacs is insane in your mind?


Stop pretending to be intelligent. You can hide behind your grammar abilities all you want but you are still the approximate equal of that ape in your profile picture in terms of intelligence.
Your disconnect with reality is really something.   


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nomad on December 19, 2012, 06:37:28 AM
Your disconnect with reality is really something.   

The irony  ::)

Please go ahead and explain to me how giving teachers the right to defend themselves is a bad thing....Hell lets make it a bit broader, not necessarily teachers but someone else who works in schools, administrators or anyone who is responsible and has the time to participate in regular firearm training drills.



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: 240 is Back on December 19, 2012, 06:41:13 AM
i hated not being able to pack heat when i was a teacher.  some of my students had been busted with weapons, I knew some of them were probably armed at school.  powerless.  that part sucked.  FL law allowed us to keep weapon in vehicles, but even with a permit, there was no carrying on campus.  I had to go work with 8th graders with serious assault records.  I would prepare, tread lightly at times, and pray.  Part of the reason I was okay with leaving teaching is that I wasn't disarmed for 40 hours each week.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 19, 2012, 07:39:01 AM
The irony  ::)

Please go ahead and explain to me how giving teachers the right to defend themselves is a bad thing....Hell lets make it a bit broader, not necessarily teachers but someone else who works in schools, administrators or anyone who is responsible and has the time to participate in regular firearm training drills.
Well, right off the top - stats show a house with a weapon is more dangerous than one without. So, you've increased the danger factor of the house/school by 20-30, perhaps more depending on the number of rooms/classrooms. Hell, the 20-30 factor is far too conservative given that you have people who are not trained marksmen, and who would be emotionally compromised making instant life and death decisions against someone rage-filled, holding a grudge and a semi-automatic. Even if the shooter was killed, expect collateral deaths by friendly fire. And that's not even addressing the legalities or subsequent litigiousness of such an enterprise.

You, Sir, are an intellect of staggering smallness.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 19, 2012, 07:48:40 AM
Well, right off the top - stats show a house with a weapon is more dangerous than one without.
Uh, hurr durr?

Lol.
I would hope that if I carried a weapon I would be more dangerous than if I wasnt.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Heywood on December 19, 2012, 09:53:25 AM
The irony  ::)

Please go ahead and explain to me how giving teachers the right to defend themselves is a bad thing....Hell lets make it a bit broader, not necessarily teachers but someone else who works in schools, administrators or anyone who is responsible and has the time to participate in regular firearm training drills.




Kindergarten or first grade teachers are not going to become Audie Murphy.  That's why they teach first grade, and are not in the marines.  This is utter bullshit.  

There is just no way to protect a kindergarten class against some nutcase with a semi-automatic.  There is no time.  No one is fast enough, unless they are standing there with a gun drawn.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Archer77 on December 19, 2012, 09:55:36 AM
i hated not being able to pack heat when i was a teacher.  some of my students had been busted with weapons, I knew some of them were probably armed at school.  powerless.  that part sucked.  FL law allowed us to keep weapon in vehicles, but even with a permit, there was no carrying on campus.  I had to go work with 8th graders with serious assault records.  I would prepare, tread lightly at times, and pray.  Part of the reason I was okay with leaving teaching is that I wasn't disarmed for 40 hours each week.

I wore a shirt that said Getbig on it.  They got the message.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: chaos on December 19, 2012, 10:29:49 AM
Lol @ people still not understanding that criminals will break even the strictest laws and bans that could ever be enforced.
Dumbasses. ::)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Heywood on December 19, 2012, 10:34:05 AM
Lol @ people still not understanding that criminals will break even the strictest laws and bans that could ever be enforced.
Dumbasses. ::)

The primary issue at the moment is not criminals.  

Rather, it is 20-30 year olds with severe mental problems.  They don't have gangs.  They don't want to be noticed.

You can have 100 drug-related killings on MLK's birthday, and nobody's really interested. 

But if someone kills off a 1st grade class, say goodbye to semi's.





Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: BB on December 19, 2012, 10:59:21 AM
Just on the firearms risk thing, there are about 500 - 750 fatalities per year from accidents in the US.

To put that into perspective, accidental household drownings occur at a higher rate, fatal bicycle accidents at about the same rate, deaths from falling out of bed occur at about 400 - 500, etc.....


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 19, 2012, 12:16:48 PM
Well. Wait for the next one, and see the same people spewing the same arguments.

Of course it's going to happen again , the question is would banning ( not an actual ban by the way ) these types of weapons prevent it? You're a smart guy , you know prohibition doesn't work

Let's say the stopped the manufacturer of all of these weapons hence forth and an actual complete ban not just cosmetic features , as well as all magazines over 10 rounds , this will still not stop this event from happening, why?

They've been making the M16/AR15 platform since 1959 , millions upon millions of these rifles are in existence already , same goes with 20/30 round magazines. Pass a complete ban it does nothing but punish people who did nothing

I have a 10 year old son and after the tragedy all of the schools in our city now have a police officer at them with guess what? the exact same guns the guy who killed all the children had. Guns are tools they can be used to protect or destroy it's all contingent on the operator.

The brutal truth is , we can NOT stop people from doing these acts because no one knows when or where some one will strike.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2012, 12:21:25 PM
"That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."
- George Orwell


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2012, 12:29:31 PM
You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass. Japanese Admiral Yamamoto, 1941


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nomad on December 19, 2012, 12:35:10 PM
Well, right off the top - stats show a house with a weapon is more dangerous than one without. So, you've increased the danger factor of the house/school by 20-30, perhaps more depending on the number of rooms/classrooms. Hell, the 20-30 factor is far too conservative given that you have people who are not trained marksmen, and who would be emotionally compromised making instant life and death decisions against someone rage-filled, holding a grudge and a semi-automatic. Even if the shooter was killed, expect collateral deaths by friendly fire. And that's not even addressing the legalities or subsequent litigiousness of such an enterprise.

You, Sir, are an intellect of staggering smallness.

Hurrr...I don't think other people are capable of using guns so lets take their right to self-defense away. Oh yea even if we give people guns then because if even one kid is accidentally killed due to friendly fire the number of lives saved is totally not worth it.


This is your fucking argument.



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 19, 2012, 12:36:46 PM
Great LEGENDARY Quotes TA


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 19, 2012, 12:37:27 PM
"That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."
- George Orwell


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BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGG


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: slate on December 19, 2012, 01:39:13 PM
i am afraid i dont have the time to read 43 pages, so i dont know if this has already been discussed as the best way by which this tragedy could have been avoided

why weren't those 6 year olds packing concealed hand guns? If kids in elementary schools, high schools, colleges were all packing none of these recent massacres would have occurred.






Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 19, 2012, 01:48:23 PM
Is it still 20 kids and 6 adults?  I never heard numbers of how many were shot but not killed and headed to the hospital or did he kill everyone that got shot?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: slate on December 19, 2012, 01:58:32 PM
he killed everyone cause none were packing

if this bastard had come into a classroom full of 6 year old kids with their berettas, glocks,  sig sauers, etc he would probably pop 3 or 4 but no more



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Rudee on December 19, 2012, 02:56:53 PM
Aw, why the long face?  

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Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 19, 2012, 03:07:44 PM
he killed everyone cause none were packing

if this bastard had come into a classroom full of 6 year old kids with their berettas, glocks,  sig sauers, etc he would probably pop 3 or 4 but no more


Exactly, why 5 year olds aren't permitted to carry a concealed weapon is beyond me! 


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Polish Power on December 19, 2012, 03:10:30 PM
Healthcare is a privilege owning a gun is a right. WTF. Way to go America


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: AbrahamG on December 19, 2012, 09:22:05 PM
"Grandpa's rifle on the wall of his cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."
- George Orwell

Slight edit.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 19, 2012, 09:37:34 PM
Psychiatrist: Lanza Was 'Pseudocommando' with 'Wounded Narcissism'
Breitbart News ^ | 12-18-2012 | Breitbart News
Posted on December 18, 2012 7:12:14 PM EST by servo1969

Psychiatrist James Knoll told CNN’s Headline News today that Adam Lanza, the perpetrator of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, was acting in a “ritualistic” way during the horrific events. Knoll, who does research at the State University of New York Upstate Medical University, said in a recent report that killers like Lanza see themselves as “pseudocommandos … driven by strong feelings of anger and resentment, in addition to having a paranoid character. He plans out the offense ritualistically, and comes prepared with a powerful arsenal of weapons.”

The report continues: “[The pseudocommando] most often kills in public during the daytime. And has no escape planned. Pseudocommandos are 'collectors of injustice' who nurture their wounded narcissism and ultimately retreat into a fantasy life of violence and revenge."

Knoll wrote that killers like Lanza have an “obliterative mindset … his ‘self’ is already dead and … his physical death is of little consequence” in his own mind.

Knoll emailed HLN to let them know that psychiatry couldn’t do much about these sorts of people. “We think far too shallow about these events. We concern ourselves with metal detectors, security systems, 'profiles,' preventing 'the mentally ill' from obtaining firearms. This is shallow, facile thinking. Want to make a material impact? Think deeper. Cultivate a respect for how to teach compassion, nonviolence and personal responsibility in individual minds.”

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 19, 2012, 10:50:28 PM
Cultivate a respect for how to teach compassion, nonviolence and personal responsibility in individual minds.

Exactly, this is why I like Buddhism, as it has these goals in mind.   Ironically, the more people consider the community over their own needs, the individual will prosper.  A society that is deeply individualistic, putting a premium on individual selfishness and narcissistic drives will not only be a dangerous society but also a miserable one, devoid of meaningful connections, real love and community purpose.  It is very hard to become compassionate, non violent and take responsibility, and when one tries too will find great opposition, both within and without.  Nations must take responsibility for all it's citizens, and not heap blame on those who the group has failed and as a result of that the outcast and downtrodden take their Revenge.  JMO


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2012, 10:54:58 PM
Nations must take responsibility for all it's citizens, and not heap blame on those who the group has failed and as a result of that the outcast and downtrodden take their Revenge.  JMO

On an individual, non governmental level... I absulutly agree


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 20, 2012, 12:54:20 AM
2012: Hurricane Sandy. SandyHook Elmentary.

Coincidence? I think not.



Abdominal Cswollman/Hierarchy  Approved


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: BB on December 20, 2012, 02:30:18 AM
2012: Hurricane Sandy. SandyHook Elmentary.

Coincidence? I think not.



Abdominal Cswollman/Hierarchy  Approved

Goes deeper than that bropotamus -

Hurricane Sandy - Sandy Hook Shooting keeps people from thinking of 12 -21- 2012.

Aurora  (numeric order code of the letters) = 1 +22+18+15+22+1 = 79.  79 is the elemental number of Gold. Gold will be the only thing of value when the economy collapses on 12/21......... Now who controls the Gold........ The Illuminati !

It's a plot to enslave us all.

;).


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: crownshep on December 20, 2012, 02:57:51 AM
Is this a normal reaction to your 6 year old daughter having just been shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: BB on December 20, 2012, 03:02:16 AM
That type of thing I just chalk up to nervous reaction, like Cops that joke at accidents, etc.....


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 20, 2012, 04:23:12 AM
Goes deeper than that bropotamus -

Hurricane Sandy - Sandy Hook Shooting keeps people from thinking of 12 -21- 2012.

Aurora  (numeric order code of the letters) = 1 +22+18+15+22+1 = 79.  79 is the elemental number of Gold. Gold will be the only thing of value when the economy collapses on 12/21......... Now who controls the Gold........ The Illuminati !

It's a plot to enslave us all.

;).

Lol!

I literally spent 5 minutes trying to add letters up and find a secret numeric code to make my post even that much better....but I couldn't find anything, and I realized im too old to be doing this nonsense, so I moved on.





Except that....




SANDY= 19 1 14  4 25 = 9/11 twin towers, the 14th is the date of the Sandy shooting, and 25 + the extra "1" = how many people killed on the 14th.

Were really making some progress here and discovering "things to consider."




Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 20, 2012, 12:36:12 PM
Goes deeper than that bropotamus -

Hurricane Sandy - Sandy Hook Shooting keeps people from thinking of 12 -21- 2012.

Aurora  (numeric order code of the letters) = 1 +22+18+15+22+1 = 79.  79 is the elemental number of Gold. Gold will be the only thing of value when the economy collapses on 12/21......... Now who controls the Gold........ The Illuminati !

It's a plot to enslave us all.

;).


This better start happening soon or it is a hoax. It is already 12-21-2012 in some parts of the world....so far, I've heard nothing.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 20, 2012, 02:11:09 PM
'Like Jesus, Annie laid down her life'
NY cardinal compares slain Conn. teacher to Jesus



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V4jxkoXp2U
 

http://news.yahoo.com/ny-cardinal-compares-slain-conn-teacher-jesus-163230478.html (http://news.yahoo.com/ny-cardinal-compares-slain-conn-teacher-jesus-163230478.html)


NEWTOWN, Conn. (AP) — A single bell tolled Thursday at the Connecticut funeral of a 6-year-old girl killed by a gunman at her elementary school, while a cardinal in New York compared a slain teacher to Jesus for giving up her life to protect others.

In Newtown, the site of the shooting rampage, grim-faced mourners hurried through the packed parking lot of St. Rose of Lima Church to attend the funeral Mass for 6-year-old Catherine Hubbard.

Catherine's family said in her obituary that she would be remembered for her passion for animals and her constant smile.

Catherine was among the 20 students and six teachers killed when Adam Lanza, armed with a military-style assault rifle, broke into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown on Dec. 14 and opened fire. Lanza killed his mother at her home before the attack and committed suicide at the school as police closed in.

Funerals were also scheduled in Connecticut on Thursday for 7-year-old Grace McDonnell and 6-year-olds Benjamin Andrew Wheeler, Jesse Lewis and Allison Wyatt, and a memorial was held for teacher Lauren Gabrielle Rousseau.

In New York, Cardinal Timothy Dolan told mourners at the funeral of 52-year-old Anne Marie Murphy that the teacher "brought together a community, a nation, a world, now awed by her own life and death."

Murphy's father, Hugh McGowan, said authorities told him that she died trying to protect her young pupils. Her body was found covering a group of children's bodies as if to shield them, McGowan said.

Dolan underscored her sacrifice.

"Like Jesus, Annie laid down her life for her friends," Dolan said. "Like Jesus, Annie's life and death brings light, truth, goodness and love to a world often shrouded in darkness, evil, selfishness and death."

About 15 people arrived at St. Mary of the Assumption Church in Katonah, N.Y., in a yellow school bus with "Newtown" written on its side. The church quickly filled and about 100 mourners waited outside.

Janelle Wingert, of Wyoming, said in an email interview that she met Murphy when they were involved in the same faith-based community service activities in the Newtown area. She said Murphy asked her after 9/11 what she would do if someone attacked a school where she was working.

"She was serious and so intense in the question," Wingert said in a Facebook post. "She died doing exactly what she said she would do — put herself between the gunman and her little ones, who she saw as the most precious of all in God's heart."

Trinity Episcopal church on Newtown's Main Street was filled to capacity for the funeral of Benjamin Wheeler, and scores of mourners who couldn't get in milled about outside. The service for a child described as a lighthouse buff, budding musician and Beatles fan included a rendition of "Here Comes The Sun" and the hymn "Amazing Grace."

Benjamin's five uncles acted as pallbearers. About two dozen Boy Scout leaders lined the front pathway to the church in honor of the former Cub Scout.

In downtown Danbury, mourners filed into the ornate white-pillared First Congregational Church for a memorial service for teacher Lauren Rousseau. The congregation in the packed church sang "Morning Has Broken" and "Let There Be Peace On Earth."

Friends wept on the altar as they remembered the spirited, hardworking, sunny-natured young woman who loved children and animals, especially cats, and who had always wanted to be a teacher. They spoke of how the 30-year-old brightened their lives with her silliness and gave them all nicknames.

A U.S. Justice Department official told The Associated Press that Attorney General Eric Holder would travel to Newtown on Thursday to meet with first responders and law enforcement officials. The trip comes after Holder met with Vice President Joe Biden, who is tasked with leading an administration-wide effort to create new proposals for reducing gun violence.

The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because the trip hadn't been publicly announced.

In addition to the services, the families of 6-year-old Olivia Rose Engel, behavioral therapist Rachel Marie D'Avino and school psychologist Mary Sherlach have calling hours Thursday.

At least nine funerals and wakes were held Wednesday, and more are set for Friday and Saturday.
 


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Rudee on December 20, 2012, 03:15:27 PM
I've enjoyed watching Piers Morgan go bonkers on his show the last couple of evenings.   


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 20, 2012, 03:16:40 PM
who is Piers Morgan  ??? ???


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Parker on December 20, 2012, 03:26:23 PM
who is Piers Morgan  ??? ???
a guy who goes bonkers on his show

***He also had his own talk show at one time, I think. And I believe he does the voice over Intro for the show "The Chew"


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 20, 2012, 03:29:14 PM
a guy who goes bonkers on his show

***He also had his own talk show at one time, I think. And I believe he does the voice over Intro for the show "The Chew"

guy looks like a sensitive maxi pad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfuJnUJa5JA


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 20, 2012, 03:49:28 PM
guy looks like a sensitive maxi pad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfuJnUJa5JA

[/quote
He is. I can't fucking stand that guy. Why he is on US tv is beyond me, he needs to fuck off back to the UK.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 20, 2012, 04:14:26 PM
guy looks like a sensitive maxi pad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfuJnUJa5JA

[/quote
He is. I can't fucking stand that guy. Why he is on US tv is beyond me, he needs to fuck off back to the UK.

^
This.   the guy morgan is terrible. Dreadful. Some of the worst TV on TV and that's tough to do.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Quickerblade on December 20, 2012, 05:05:29 PM
'Like Jesus, Annie laid down her life'
NY cardinal compares slain Conn. teacher to Jesus



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V4jxkoXp2U
 

http://news.yahoo.com/ny-cardinal-compares-slain-conn-teacher-jesus-163230478.html (http://news.yahoo.com/ny-cardinal-compares-slain-conn-teacher-jesus-163230478.html)


NEWTOWN, Conn. (AP) — A single bell tolled Thursday at the Connecticut funeral of a 6-year-old girl killed by a gunman at her elementary school, while a cardinal in New York compared a slain teacher to Jesus for giving up her life to protect others.

In Newtown, the site of the shooting rampage, grim-faced mourners hurried through the packed parking lot of St. Rose of Lima Church to attend the funeral Mass for 6-year-old Catherine Hubbard.

Catherine's family said in her obituary that she would be remembered for her passion for animals and her constant smile.

Catherine was among the 20 students and six teachers killed when Adam Lanza, armed with a military-style assault rifle, broke into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown on Dec. 14 and opened fire. Lanza killed his mother at her home before the attack and committed suicide at the school as police closed in.

Funerals were also scheduled in Connecticut on Thursday for 7-year-old Grace McDonnell and 6-year-olds Benjamin Andrew Wheeler, Jesse Lewis and Allison Wyatt, and a memorial was held for teacher Lauren Gabrielle Rousseau.

In New York, Cardinal Timothy Dolan told mourners at the funeral of 52-year-old Anne Marie Murphy that the teacher "brought together a community, a nation, a world, now awed by her own life and death."

Murphy's father, Hugh McGowan, said authorities told him that she died trying to protect her young pupils. Her body was found covering a group of children's bodies as if to shield them, McGowan said.

Dolan underscored her sacrifice.

"Like Jesus, Annie laid down her life for her friends," Dolan said. "Like Jesus, Annie's life and death brings light, truth, goodness and love to a world often shrouded in darkness, evil, selfishness and death."

About 15 people arrived at St. Mary of the Assumption Church in Katonah, N.Y., in a yellow school bus with "Newtown" written on its side. The church quickly filled and about 100 mourners waited outside.

Janelle Wingert, of Wyoming, said in an email interview that she met Murphy when they were involved in the same faith-based community service activities in the Newtown area. She said Murphy asked her after 9/11 what she would do if someone attacked a school where she was working.

"She was serious and so intense in the question," Wingert said in a Facebook post. "She died doing exactly what she said she would do — put herself between the gunman and her little ones, who she saw as the most precious of all in God's heart."

Trinity Episcopal church on Newtown's Main Street was filled to capacity for the funeral of Benjamin Wheeler, and scores of mourners who couldn't get in milled about outside. The service for a child described as a lighthouse buff, budding musician and Beatles fan included a rendition of "Here Comes The Sun" and the hymn "Amazing Grace."

Benjamin's five uncles acted as pallbearers. About two dozen Boy Scout leaders lined the front pathway to the church in honor of the former Cub Scout.

In downtown Danbury, mourners filed into the ornate white-pillared First Congregational Church for a memorial service for teacher Lauren Rousseau. The congregation in the packed church sang "Morning Has Broken" and "Let There Be Peace On Earth."

Friends wept on the altar as they remembered the spirited, hardworking, sunny-natured young woman who loved children and animals, especially cats, and who had always wanted to be a teacher. They spoke of how the 30-year-old brightened their lives with her silliness and gave them all nicknames.

A U.S. Justice Department official told The Associated Press that Attorney General Eric Holder would travel to Newtown on Thursday to meet with first responders and law enforcement officials. The trip comes after Holder met with Vice President Joe Biden, who is tasked with leading an administration-wide effort to create new proposals for reducing gun violence.

The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because the trip hadn't been publicly announced.

In addition to the services, the families of 6-year-old Olivia Rose Engel, behavioral therapist Rachel Marie D'Avino and school psychologist Mary Sherlach have calling hours Thursday.

At least nine funerals and wakes were held Wednesday, and more are set for Friday and Saturday.
 


Not only are they Heroes, there like Jesus. WOW


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 20, 2012, 05:22:29 PM
LIKE JESUS



(http://img.youtube.com/vi/45yabrnryXk/0.jpg)


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: mesmorph78 on December 20, 2012, 05:43:08 PM
I just love the age old logic, guns dont  kill people. people do....
I love america.... they have their faults like everyone.. but they have iron will and heart...
BUT something needs to be done.... about the guns
Nulear weopons dont kill people either... its people that do it but you guys seem to not want anyone to have nuclear power...
same rule should be applied to guns applied to guns.....
there are other ways to protect property.... stop hiding behind that


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 20, 2012, 06:24:41 PM
I just love the age old logic, guns dont  kill people. people do....
I love america.... they have their faults like everyone.. but they have iron will and heart...
BUT something needs to be done.... about the guns
Nulear weopons dont kill people either... its people that do it but you guys seem to not want anyone to have nuclear power...
same rule should be applied to guns applied to guns.....
there are other ways to protect property.... stop hiding behind that
Americans are CRAZY, and what makes their craziness scary is they don't even know it.  You can just imagine gun nutter Nancy Lanza spouting all the same nonsense, I need my guns for protection for me and my family, guns don't kill people, the answer is More guns etc etc.  And what was this Gun Nutters fate: Being shot in the face 4 times at close range by her own gun in her own house by her own son.  What makes a Gun Nutter a Nutter is their lack of reasonableness, their obsessive personalities, their rigid black & white outlook, these people would rather be shot in the face 4 times at close range by their own gun in their own house by their own son than see reason.  That's what makes these people Nutters, they are BEYOND help, and as a nation comprised of tens of millions of these type of Nutters, they deserve everything the get.  If as a nation that want to send a collective FUCK YOU to their children, and condemn them to violence and misery and propaganda and lies, so be it, but if they expect the rest of the world to remain silent while they enable the slaughter of 5 year old children, they can get Fucked.  I guarantee, nothing will change, these shootings will continue with the same frequent regularity that they always have, the Americans have created the perfect environment for this.  Americans are arrogant, ignorant beasts, and their chickens have come home to roost, they made their bed, now they must lie in it.
  


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 20, 2012, 06:29:49 PM
Americans are CRAZY, and what makes their craziness scary is they don't even know it.  You can just imagine gun nutter Nancy Lanza spouting all the same nonsense, I need my guns for protection for me and my family, guns don't kill people, the answer is More guns etc etc.  And what was this Gun Nutters fate: Being shot in the face 4 times at close range by her own gun in her own house by her own son.  What makes a Gun Nutter a Nutter is their lack of reasonableness, their obsessive personalities, their rigid black & white outlook, these people would rather be shot in the face 4 times at close range by their own gun in their own house by their own son than see reason.  That's what makes these people Nutters, they are BEYOND help, and as a nation comprised of tens of millions of these type of Nutters, they deserve everything the get.  If as a nation that want to send a collective FUCK YOU to their children, and condemn them to violence and misery and propaganda and lies, so be it, but if they expect the rest of the world to remain silent while they enable the slaughter of 5 year old children, they can get Fucked.  I guarantee, nothing will change, these shootings will continue with the same frequent regularity that they always have, the Americans have created the perfect environment for this.  Americans are arrogant, ignorant beasts, and their chickens have come home to roost, they made their bed, now they must lie in it.
  
Fear. And more of it.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: mesmorph78 on December 20, 2012, 06:35:05 PM
Americans are CRAZY, and what makes their craziness scary is they don't even know it.  You can just imagine gun nutter Nancy Lanza spouting all the same nonsense, I need my guns for protection for me and my family, guns don't kill people, the answer is More guns etc etc.  And what was this Gun Nutters fate: Being shot in the face 4 times at close range by her own gun in her own house by her own son.  What makes a Gun Nutter a Nutter is their lack of reasonableness, their obsessive personalities, their rigid black & white outlook, these people would rather be shot in the face 4 times at close range by their own gun in their own house by their own son than see reason.  That's what makes these people Nutters, they are BEYOND help, and as a nation comprised of tens of millions of these type of Nutters, they deserve everything the get.  If as a nation that want to send a collective FUCK YOU to their children, and condemn them to violence and misery and propaganda and lies, so be it, but if they expect the rest of the world to remain silent while they enable the slaughter of 5 year old children, they can get Fucked.  I guarantee, nothing will change, these shootings will continue with the same frequent regularity that they always have, the Americans have created the perfect environment for this.  Americans are arrogant, ignorant beasts, and their chickens have come home to roost, they made their bed, now they must lie in it.
  

I believe it is fear...... as someone looking in from the outside its clear as day fear... also its hrd to change a culture they have lived with for years... I dont think it will change anyway....


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: manuelsonn on December 21, 2012, 04:31:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4QONwl4tLg


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: manuelsonn on December 21, 2012, 04:31:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1uc53_MkXM


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: manuelsonn on December 21, 2012, 04:33:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCowwLoKTds


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 21, 2012, 04:39:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1uc53_MkXM
A gun would have been far more effective, he would have at least managed to kill someone, pity for him, guns are hard to get in China.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: manuelsonn on December 21, 2012, 04:54:23 AM
A gun would have been far more effective, he would have at least managed to kill someone, pity for him, guns are hard to get in China.
hmm,, don t u think we should ban knifes also? looks like the right thing to do


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Radical Plato on December 21, 2012, 05:40:55 AM
hmm,, don t u think we should ban knifes also? looks like the right thing to do
Why ban knifes, not very effective if killing dozens of human beings in a few minutes is your goal, takes time to kill with a knife, and leaves you open to be ambushed and stopped, and killing with a knife is very personal and hands on, harder to do psychologically, from a mass killers perspective, very low on the list of weapons to use when aiming to cause maximum death, carnage and impact.  Plus you can use knives when cooking!


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: manuelsonn on December 21, 2012, 05:45:36 AM
hmm, u re are very materialistic,, think - 20 hard, passionate killings , full of emotion vs 40-50 impersonal shots


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 21, 2012, 08:50:50 AM
 http://news.yahoo.com/nra-calls-armed-police-officer-every-school-162851713.html (http://news.yahoo.com/nra-calls-armed-police-officer-every-school-162851713.html)

NRA calls for armed police officer in every school



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJrAeNZiRCE


(http://l1.yimg.com/nn/fp/rsz/122112/images/smush/nrapress1_uni_1356107359.jpg)


WASHINGTON (AP) — The nation's largest gun-rights lobby called Friday for armed police officers to be posted in every American school to stop the next killer "waiting in the wings."

The National Rifle Association broke its silence Friday on last week's shooting rampage at a Connecticut elementary school that left 26 children and staff dead.

The group's top lobbyist, Wayne LaPierre, said at a Washington news conference that "the next Adam Lanza," the man responsible for last week's mayhem, is planning an attack on another school.

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," LaPierre said.

He blamed video games, movies and music videos for exposing children to a violent culture day in and day out.

"In a race to the bottom, many conglomerates compete with one another to shock, violate, and offend every standard of civilized society, by bringing an even more toxic mix of reckless behavior and criminal cruelty right into our homes," LaPierre said.

He refused to take any questions after speaking. Still, though security was tight, two protesters were able to interrupt LaPierre's speech, holding up signs that blamed the NRA for killing children. Both were escorted out, shouting that guns in schools are not the answer.

More than a dozen security officers checked media credentials at various checkpoints and patrolled the hotel ballroom.

LaPierre announced that former Rep. Asa Hutchison, R-Ark., will lead an NRA program that will develop a model security plan for schools that relies on armed volunteers.

The 4.3 million-member NRA largely disappeared from public debate after the shootings in Newtown, Conn., choosing atypical silence as a strategy as the nation sought answers after the rampage. The NRA temporarily took down its Facebook page and kept quiet on Twitter.

Since the slayings, President Barack Obama has demanded "real action, right now" against U.S. gun violence and called on the NRA to join the effort. Moving quickly after several congressional gun-rights supporters said they would consider new legislation to control firearms, the president said this week he wants proposals to reduce gun violence that he can take to Congress by January.

Obama has already asked Congress to reinstate an assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 and pass legislation that would stop people from purchasing firearms from private sellers without a background check. Obama also has indicated he wants Congress to pursue the possibility of limiting high-capacity magazines.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 21, 2012, 08:58:54 AM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/21/16063999-obama-on-gun-control-petition-we-hear-you?lite (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/21/16063999-obama-on-gun-control-petition-we-hear-you?lite)


Obama on gun control petition: 'We hear you"


In Friday's video, the president responded to a "We the People" petition on the White House website that allows the public to submit petitions. Nearly 200,000 people have urged Obama to address gun control in one petition and petitions related to gun violence have amassed more than 400,000 signatures.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ynVMBxOus






America Population
 -     2012 estimate    314,970,000



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SO FUCK WHAT THE OTHER  314,570,000 PEOPLE WANT THEN RIGHT OBAMA ???


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 21, 2012, 10:36:01 AM
the funny thing is, this fagGgot would be handed from his shit infested dick in almost any other country in the world .

ITS the Fire Arms that give him the right to interrupt a mans speech with his political views.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nRry7eQFMg


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 21, 2012, 10:49:56 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/nra-calls-armed-police-officer-every-school-162851713.html (http://news.yahoo.com/nra-calls-armed-police-officer-every-school-162851713.html)

NRA calls for armed police officer in every school



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJrAeNZiRCE


(http://l1.yimg.com/nn/fp/rsz/122112/images/smush/nrapress1_uni_1356107359.jpg)


WASHINGTON (AP) — The nation's largest gun-rights lobby called Friday for armed police officers to be posted in every American school to stop the next killer "waiting in the wings."

The National Rifle Association broke its silence Friday on last week's shooting rampage at a Connecticut elementary school that left 26 children and staff dead.

The group's top lobbyist, Wayne LaPierre, said at a Washington news conference that "the next Adam Lanza," the man responsible for last week's mayhem, is planning an attack on another school.

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," LaPierre said.

He blamed video games, movies and music videos for exposing children to a violent culture day in and day out.

"In a race to the bottom, many conglomerates compete with one another to shock, violate, and offend every standard of civilized society, by bringing an even more toxic mix of reckless behavior and criminal cruelty right into our homes," LaPierre said.

He refused to take any questions after speaking. Still, though security was tight, two protesters were able to interrupt LaPierre's speech, holding up signs that blamed the NRA for killing children. Both were escorted out, shouting that guns in schools are not the answer.

More than a dozen security officers checked media credentials at various checkpoints and patrolled the hotel ballroom.

LaPierre announced that former Rep. Asa Hutchison, R-Ark., will lead an NRA program that will develop a model security plan for schools that relies on armed volunteers.

The 4.3 million-member NRA largely disappeared from public debate after the shootings in Newtown, Conn., choosing atypical silence as a strategy as the nation sought answers after the rampage. The NRA temporarily took down its Facebook page and kept quiet on Twitter.

Since the slayings, President Barack Obama has demanded "real action, right now" against U.S. gun violence and called on the NRA to join the effort. Moving quickly after several congressional gun-rights supporters said they would consider new legislation to control firearms, the president said this week he wants proposals to reduce gun violence that he can take to Congress by January.

Obama has already asked Congress to reinstate an assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 and pass legislation that would stop people from purchasing firearms from private sellers without a background check. Obama also has indicated he wants Congress to pursue the possibility of limiting high-capacity magazines.


haha, I cant believe this idiot blamed music, movies, and video games lol.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 21, 2012, 11:40:42 AM
haha, I cant believe this idiot blamed music, movies, and video games lol.
Well, what else is he gonna do except point at everything but himself? The gun genie is out of the bottle and isn't gonna be put back in.  :-\


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: chaos on December 21, 2012, 02:24:31 PM
Yes!! Blame alcohol for drunk driving, cigarettes for lung cancer, food for fat people.....

Wake the fuck up and instill some personal responsibility on people for their own actions.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: tommywishbone on December 21, 2012, 02:29:24 PM
Creepy dude was doing his best Nathan Thurm aka the lawyer that said cigarettes are good for you. LOL


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: cephissus on December 21, 2012, 02:32:36 PM
haha, I cant believe this idiot blamed music, movies, and video games lol.

hahaa what a fucking dipshit.  the fact of the matter is, the exact same instincts which drive people to play video games also give people pleasure in using firearms.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Sweedee on December 21, 2012, 02:59:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uwAo8lcAC4


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Rudee on December 21, 2012, 03:10:36 PM
And now there is countless funds setup for donations to the victims families.   Now why exactly do we need to be donating money to the families of the victims?  Sure, donate enough to cover funeral expenses and such, but do we really need to turn the victims families into millionaires like people did with families of the 911 victims after all the donations were handed out to them.   It's not like their house burned down and they lose all their possessions and need money for a new home.  What's the deal with all the funds being set up? 


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 21, 2012, 03:19:27 PM
And now there is countless funds setup for donations to the victims families.   Now why exactly do we need to be donating money to the families of the victims?  Sure, donate enough to cover funeral expenses and such, but do we really need to turn the victims families into millionaires like people did with families of the 911 victims after all the donations were handed out to them.   It's not like their house burned down and they lose all their possessions and need money for a new home.  What's the deal with all the funds being set up? 
NONE of the families need financial help.  This is just preposterous!


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 21, 2012, 03:20:01 PM
hahaa what a fucking dipshit.  the fact of the matter is, the exact same instincts which drive people to play video games also give people pleasure in using firearms.

Well, I dont think its one isolated thing such as violent video games/movies or guns.

Its more likely a combination of things.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 21, 2012, 03:22:15 PM
And now there is countless funds setup for donations to the victims families.   Now why exactly do we need to be donating money to the families of the victims?  Sure, donate enough to cover funeral expenses and such, but do we really need to turn the victims families into millionaires like people did with families of the 911 victims after all the donations were handed out to them.   It's not like their house burned down and they lose all their possessions and need money for a new home.  What's the deal with all the funds being set up? 
Hilarious. You, Sir, are an idiot. Not only have Firsters ('9/'11) been denied monies from funds set up for them, crippled/HC' ed veterans (of FWs)  are dying faster than cash can get to them.    


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 21, 2012, 03:23:25 PM
Well, I dont think its one isolated thing such as violent video games/movies or guns.

Its more likely a combination of things.
Read my story about living with a potential mass murderer.   :-\  They will always be with us.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=452648.msg6503219#msg6503219


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Nails on December 21, 2012, 03:31:19 PM
ConGrats on the 100,000 post 333386,


So thats what happens to the POST COUNT when you roll over to the Hundreds of thousands




Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 21, 2012, 03:34:00 PM
And in today's other big news:

Responsible people were still acting responsibly.



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 21, 2012, 03:41:40 PM
Read my story about living with a potential mass murderer.   :-\  They will always be with us.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=452648.msg6503219#msg6503219

So I am not too sure how your story relates to what I said, besides proving there will always be killers? Sure, there will, but I guess trying to diminish the numbers is the goal, according to some people.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 21, 2012, 03:43:22 PM
And in today's other big news:

Responsible people were still acting responsibly.
But, of course, until they decided to shoot up a school of kids, they weren't.   


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 21, 2012, 03:46:00 PM

Obama on gun control petition: 'We hear you"

In Friday's video, the president responded to a "We the People" petition on the White House website that allows the public to submit petitions.

Is that the same President that couldn't hear the four people who were killed, including U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, at the American diplomatic mission at Benghazi, in Libya, pleading for help during the September 11, 2012 terrorist attack?

Same guy right?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 21, 2012, 03:47:01 PM
But, of course, until they decided to shoot up a school of kids, they weren't.   

So let's legislate the 99.999999999999999999999% of society that were.

Dumb enough to be liberal.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 21, 2012, 03:52:24 PM
But, of course, until they decided to shoot up a school of kids, they weren't.   

In a liberal's mind, mentally ill is considered responsible, correct?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dr.chimps on December 21, 2012, 03:55:15 PM
In a liberal's mind, mentally ill is considered responsible, correct?

3 posts in a row is getting there. Settle down, psycho.   ::)   


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Heywood on December 21, 2012, 04:30:57 PM
Mentally ill is not realizing these semiautomatics give nutjobs the confidence they need to carry out these mass killings/suicides. 

Revolvers wouldn't provide that confidence to successfully carry this out.

These guys are crazy, not stupid.

just sayin..........




Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 21, 2012, 04:42:05 PM
Why ban knifes, not very effective if killing dozens of human beings in a few minutes is your goal, takes time to kill with a knife, and leaves you open to be ambushed and stopped, and killing with a knife is very personal and hands on, harder to do psychologically, from a mass killers perspective, very low on the list of weapons to use when aiming to cause maximum death, carnage and impact.  Plus you can use knives when cooking!

How right your are (for once)! People wielding knives can be scary if they are on the attack, but not nearly as threatening as someone with an semi-automatic rifle. Knives can do some serious damage to a person, but at least one has a fighting chance with one. This is not so much the case with a gun.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: chaos on December 21, 2012, 04:45:09 PM
Lol @ dumbfucks still thinking a ban or more laws will stop criminals.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: dj181 on December 21, 2012, 04:46:52 PM
what's 15 have to say about it all?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 21, 2012, 04:50:08 PM
In a liberal's mind, mentally ill is considered responsible, correct?


I can't speak for all liberals....but then, neither can you. Anyway, a mentally ill person is just that, ill. Some mentally ill people may actually lead responsible lives while others do not. It would depend on the nature of the illness and how severe it is. I don't advocate locking up all mentally ill people in prisons, if that's what you are suggesting. However, I don't agree with letting seriously mentally ill people live on their own either as is current practice in most of the U.S. since we have closed all but a few of the facilities for mentally ill people. In many cases, mentally ill people live on the streets in our cities and towns.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Primemuscle on December 21, 2012, 04:55:01 PM
Lol @ dumbfucks still thinking a ban or more laws will stop criminals.

Perhaps you don't realize there is a difference between common criminals and people who are mentally ill. However, banning guns will probably not keep them out of the hands of either criminals or mentally ill people. It might, however, reduce the availability of these weapons to some folks. As I have previously posted, it makes no sense to me why the average citizen needs to possess semi-automatic weapons. In my opinion these kinds of weapons should be outlawed.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 21, 2012, 04:56:03 PM
Well, what else is he gonna do except point at everything but himself? The gun genie is out of the bottle and isn't gonna be put back in.  :-\

Are you trying to say he's responsible?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 21, 2012, 05:09:27 PM
Mentally ill is not realizing these semiautomatics give nutjobs the confidence they need to carry out these mass killings/suicides.  

Revolvers wouldn't provide that confidence to successfully carry this out.

These guys are crazy, not stupid.

just sayin..........




Do you believe the rifle was used in the CT shootings or left in the car as originally reported?

The government is telling you that the rifle was used, the media told us that only handguns were used.

Obama can't scream for an assault weapon ban if it was sitting in the trunk of Lanza's car now can he?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Immortal_Technique on December 21, 2012, 05:12:34 PM
Indeed what use can a gun have except to kill someone? Why would a non-moron want to own one?

Nation of fear and insecurity.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: chaos on December 21, 2012, 05:14:33 PM
Perhaps you don't realize there is a difference between common criminals and people who are mentally ill. However, banning guns will probably not keep them out of the hands of either criminals or mentally ill people. It might, however, reduce the availability of these weapons to some folks. As I have previously posted, it makes no sense to me why the average citizen needs to possess semi-automatic weapons. In my opinion these kinds of weapons should be outlawed.
Perhaps you also don't understand why someone would need a car that goes faster than 65? Or why do people need alcohol? Cigarettes?

Compare the death stats and ask yourself where the real danger is.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 21, 2012, 05:15:35 PM
Indeed what use can a gun have except to kill someone? Why would a non-moron want to own one?

Nation of fear and insecurity.

Guns have multiple uses but I wont skirt around the issue , I have an AR15 to kill some one intent on hurting me or my family. I have NO shame in wanting to protect myself or my family.

Don't like guns? Don't get one but please don't try and tell me I can't.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: The True Adonis on December 21, 2012, 05:16:30 PM
Indeed what use can a gun have except to kill someone? Why would a non-moron want to own one?

Nation of fear and insecurity.
What if I told you Guns are a piece of art?


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Immortal_Technique on December 21, 2012, 05:16:57 PM
Statistically USA shoots itself more than any other country, hahahahahahahaha



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 21, 2012, 05:21:29 PM
Statistically USA shoots itself more than any other country, hahahahahahahaha



Another foreign troll who really doesn't care about any of the victims , just want to join the party in USA bashing 


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 21, 2012, 05:24:06 PM
When I was a kid, we played "Cowboys and Indians" with plastic guns every day.

I never grew up and shot any real Indians? So I'm finding the video game excuse pretty fucking lame.

Some spoiled brat, head case of an adult, was having a temper tantrum because he didn't get his own way, so he murdered his mother and 26 innocent, defenseless people, including 20 children. Stop calling it anything but that.



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 21, 2012, 05:27:21 PM
When I was a kid, we played "Cowboys and Indians" with plastic guns every day.

I never grew up and shot any real Indians? So I'm finding the video game excuse pretty fucking lame.

Some spoiled brat, head case of an adult, was having a temper tantrum because he didn't get his own way, so he murdered his mother and 26 innocent, defenseless people, including 20 children. Stop calling it anything but that.



It is lame , and he's just as much of an asshole as the anti-gunners who claim the inanimate object is to blame , it blames everyone but the person responsible.



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: chaos on December 21, 2012, 05:32:36 PM


Some spoiled brat, head case of an adult, was having a temper tantrum because he didn't get his own way, so he murdered his mother and 26 innocent, defenseless people, including 20 children. Stop calling it anything but that.


This is the logic that confuses people that are looking to blame anything except the perpetrator of the crime and what drove him to do it.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Immortal_Technique on December 21, 2012, 05:38:23 PM
Another foreign troll who really doesn't care about any of the victims , just want to join the party in USA bashing 

Noone advocating the ownership of guns can pretend to care about these kids. Any sane person can see chidrens lives > outdated pride in a long irrelevent "constitutional right". You all shit your pants that maturing as a nation and doing the obvious sensible thing will somehow make you look weak or compromise the morals on which the, in many ways great, Nation was founded. Totally pathetic bunch of rednecks. Grow up.

To the rest of the world it's like watching an episode of King of The Hill where Hank won't admit he's wrong in case it compromises his notion of himself as a man.....except this is real and involves 6-16 year olds getting shot in the face every couple of weeks.
pretty sickening stuff.



Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 21, 2012, 05:44:00 PM
Noone advocating the ownership of guns can pretend to care about these kids. Any sane person can see chidrens lives > outdated pride in a long irrelevent "constitutional right". You all shit your pants that maturing as a nation and doing the obvious sensible thing will somehow make you look weak or compromise the morals on which the, in many ways great, Nation was founded. Totally pathetic bunch of rednecks. Grow up.

To the rest of the world it's like watching an episode of King of The Hill where Hank won't admit he's wrong in case it compromises his notion of himself as a man.....except this is real and involves 6-16 year olds getting shot in the face every couple of weeks.
pretty sickening stuff.



Yes we should all strive to be like you  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed0QJJL9sYQ


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: tu_holmes on December 21, 2012, 05:46:31 PM
Noone advocating the ownership of guns can pretend to care about these kids. Any sane person can see chidrens lives > outdated pride in a long irrelevent "constitutional right". You all shit your pants that maturing as a nation and doing the obvious sensible thing will somehow make you look weak or compromise the morals on which the, in many ways great, Nation was founded. Totally pathetic bunch of rednecks. Grow up.

To the rest of the world it's like watching an episode of King of The Hill where Hank won't admit he's wrong in case it compromises his notion of himself as a man.....except this is real and involves 6-16 year olds getting shot in the face every couple of weeks.
pretty sickening stuff.



Oh stop the shit... The premise of constitutional rights extends past these children... Yes, it's a tragedy, but without our rights, both good and bad, then you don't have the country you have today... The country who assisted in 2 world wars and is basically the model by which all other modern western democracies are based on.

Sure... It ain't perfect... Nothing is, but you take the bad with the good.

Does this suck? Of course, and my heart goes out to every single person affected by tragedy, but that doesn't mean that the ideal of what the constitution stands for is any less valid today than it was in the 1780s


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 21, 2012, 05:47:05 PM
Oh stop the shit... The premise of constitutional rights extends past these children... Yes, it's a tragedy, but without our rights, both good and bad, then you don't have the country you have today... The country who assisted in 2 world wars and is basically the model by which all other modern western democracies are based on.

Sure... It ain't perfect... Nothing is, but you take the bad with the good.

Does this suck? Of course, and my heart goes out to every single person affected by tragedy, but that doesn't mean that the ideal of what the constitution stands for is any less valid today than it was in the 1780s
Solid bro, solid.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 21, 2012, 05:48:27 PM
Oh stop the shit... The premise of constitutional rights extends past these children... Yes, it's a tragedy, but without our rights, both good and bad, then you don't have the country you have today... The country who assisted in 2 world wars and is basically the model by which all other modern western democracies are based on.

Sure... It ain't perfect... Nothing is, but you take the bad with the good.

Does this suck? Of course, and my heart goes out to every single person affected by tragedy, but that doesn't mean that the ideal of what the constitution stands for is any less valid today than it was in the 1780s

Concise and accurate


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: che on December 21, 2012, 05:49:55 PM


Some spoiled brat, head case of an adult, was having a temper tantrum because he didn't get his own way, so he murdered his mother and 26 innocent, defenseless people, including 20 children. Stop calling it anything but that.



QFT


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Immortal_Technique on December 21, 2012, 06:06:37 PM
Oh stop the shit... The premise of constitutional rights extends past these children... Yes, it's a tragedy, but without our rights, both good and bad, then you don't have the country you have today... The country who assisted in 2 world wars and is basically the model by which all other modern western democracies are based on.

Sure... It ain't perfect... Nothing is, but you take the bad with the good.

Does this suck? Of course, and my heart goes out to every single person affected by tragedy, but that doesn't mean that the ideal of what the constitution stands for is any less valid today than it was in the 1780s

On your head be it. Clearly no room for introspection here. Your pride is too great, you know everything and the constitution invented all those years ago will always be relevant and never need modifying. 

In a few hundred years when you are a less young and more mature nation you may shed the insecurities which generate all this posturing and learn to question things and stop cutting off your nose to spite your face, for want of a better phrase.

What does "it's in the constitution" really mean? And why can't you take it out of the constitution? Is either the domestic or international political climate the same now as when it was written? Er no. Evolve men.






Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: Shockwave on December 21, 2012, 06:09:05 PM
In a few hundred years when you are a less young and more mature nation you may shed the insecurities which generate all this posturing and learn to question things and stop cutting off your nose to spite your face, for want of a better phrase.

Fuck the fuck off, obnoxiously pretentious fuck.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 21, 2012, 06:14:19 PM
On your head be it. Clearly no room for introspection here. Your pride is too great, you know everything and the constitution invented all those years ago will always be relevant and never need modifying. 

In a few hundred years when you are a less young and more mature nation you may shed the insecurities which generate all this posturing and learn to question things and stop cutting off your nose to spite your face, for want of a better phrase.

What does "it's in the constitution" really mean? And why can't you take it out of the constitution? Is either the domestic or international political climate the same now as when it was written? Er no. Evolve men.






Keep commenting on what's best for America your fascination is cute but it still wont bring these kids back , it's only after these types of tragedies do douche-bags like you start spewing what we need to do , you're a vulture who smells blood a to spout off your opinion as if it matters

The irony is you're obsessed with America , you're on a American bodybuilding site with a picture of an American bodybuilder next to your  , American ( not born ) rapper name , again your fake concern is cute but fuck off if you think you know what's best for this country or anyone cares.


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: SF1900 on December 21, 2012, 06:17:20 PM
Although I have no stake in the gun debate, I wonder what the fervent reason is for wanting their guns. It seems less to be about the constitution and more about projecting a certain image. It seems as though most Americans could careless about their country, only when it affects their image. Just sayin'


Title: Re: CT Shooting - Massive Shooting at School - 27 killed, 20 children
Post by: AbrahamG on December 21, 2012, 06:20:11 PM
What if I told you Guns are a piece of art?

Did "grandpa" tell you that?