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Title: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: bradistani on December 28, 2012, 02:25:16 PM
still a few days left to set an all time record.. come on chicago, you can do it  :D

CHICAGO (AP) — Chicago has logged its 500th homicide of 2012.

The last time the city reached the 500-homicide mark was in 2008, when the year ended with 512 killings. Last year, city records show Chicago had 435 homicides.

On Thursday, officials with the Chicago Police Department said the city was one homicide away from the 500 mark. Hours later, a 40-year-old man was fatally shot in the Austin neighborhood on the city's West Side. Police say Nathaniel Jackson was found on the sidewalk outside a convenience store with a gunshot wound to the head late Thursday.

The Cook County Medical Examiner's Office says Jackson was pronounced dead at Stroger Hospital early Friday.

Jackson's death remains under investigation. No arrests have been made.

http://news.yahoo.com/chicago-reaches-500-homicides-fatal-shooting-145951769.html
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 28, 2012, 02:26:57 PM
still a few days left to set an all time record.. come on chicago, you can do it  :D

CHICAGO (AP) — Chicago has logged its 500th homicide of 2012.

The last time the city reached the 500-homicide mark was in 2008, when the year ended with 512 killings. Last year, city records show Chicago had 435 homicides.

On Thursday, officials with the Chicago Police Department said the city was one homicide away from the 500 mark. Hours later, a 40-year-old man was fatally shot in the Austin neighborhood on the city's West Side. Police say Nathaniel Jackson was found on the sidewalk outside a convenience store with a gunshot wound to the head late Thursday.

The Cook County Medical Examiner's Office says Jackson was pronounced dead at Stroger Hospital early Friday.

Jackson's death remains under investigation. No arrests have been made.

http://news.yahoo.com/chicago-reaches-500-homicides-fatal-shooting-145951769.html


Some of the strictest gun laws in the United States , Yet these laws designed to prevent this has only made it worse
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: blinky on December 28, 2012, 03:12:13 PM
saw this on the news this morning. Thats f*kin insane
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: CARTEL on December 28, 2012, 03:16:06 PM
well, but in nyc it seems to work doesnt it.



Yep. Homicides are a thing of the past in New York.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Nails on December 28, 2012, 03:16:48 PM
Obama's Hood
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: gym**rat on December 28, 2012, 03:17:35 PM
Very strict gun laws in Illinois. My niece lives in Chicago in a nicer area and as seen 2 people shot dead. Crazy shit.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Parker on December 28, 2012, 03:24:28 PM
Very strict gun laws in Illinois. My niece lives in Chicago in a nicer area and as seen 2 people shot dead. Crazy shit.
i had met a stewardess from Chi-town (yep, fine as could be) and she is a gun owner, said it was necessary.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: CARTEL on December 28, 2012, 03:31:46 PM
i read soemthing in an ok swiss newspaper today, almost couldnt believ it.

is the same true for the bronx and similiar areas?

Of course. Old ladies ride the subways with no fear and it is unusual for people to lock their doors at night in Queens.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: gym**rat on December 28, 2012, 03:37:58 PM
i had met a stewardess from Chi-town (yep, fine as could be) and she is a gun owner, said it was necessary.

Smart girl, I told my niece I would buy her one and she said she could not shoot anyone. They would probably just grab it from her anyway.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Tre on December 28, 2012, 03:44:50 PM
Some of the strictest gun laws in the United States , Yet these laws designed to prevent this has only made it worse

No, self-hatred and hatred of humanity is the driving force.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Shockwave on December 28, 2012, 03:50:05 PM
i read soemthing in an ok swiss newspaper today, almost couldnt believ it.

is the same true for the bronx and similiar areas?
You missed the sarcasm dude, NY still has a shit ton of murders.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: SF1900 on December 28, 2012, 03:55:35 PM
You missed the sarcasm dude, NY still has a shit ton of murders.

A few months back, there were like 5 shootings and 4 other major crimes within like a 12-hour period in NYC, and in relatively the same neighborhood. Eeek.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: SF1900 on December 28, 2012, 03:57:20 PM
wow, then the paper i read it in are some shitstain eating liars, fuck, im not suprised.

ill cite some of the stuff in couple minutes, let me find it

I live in NYC. Trust me, there is still crime.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: G_Thang on December 28, 2012, 04:00:16 PM
if you aren't doing unlawful stuff, you have nothing to worry about. it's still safer than a white boy with issues showing up at a screening of batman.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Shockwave on December 28, 2012, 04:00:26 PM
ok, sorry for the off topic, but here goes, for nyc.

they claim the homicide rate is the lowest in 50 years.

yeah, it s a bs article, bloomberg guy is full of bs


 i believ you, sf1900.

"lowest in 50 years" means fuck all.
Bloomberg would like you to think that all his shit makes a difference, but in reality, not much has changed.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Shockwave on December 28, 2012, 04:00:59 PM
if you aren't doing unlawful stuff, you have nothing to worry about. it's still safer than a white boy with issues showing up at a screening of batman.
Lol, solid trolling brah.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: bradistani on December 28, 2012, 04:03:41 PM
No, self-hatred and hatred of humanity is the driving force.

i'd have said grinding poverty and no fucking hope, but there you go !

not that i advocate gun crime. sadly it's the poor fucking over thje poor mostly. change will only come when the gun is pointed at the hierarchy. until then, they'll happily let us off each other
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: SF1900 on December 28, 2012, 04:06:19 PM
ok, sorry for the off topic, but here goes, for nyc.

they claim the homicide rate is the lowest in 50 years.

yeah, it s a bs article, bloomberg guy is full of bs


 i believ you, sf1900.

"lowest in 50 years" means fuck all.

Well, Guiliani did clean it up a lot. Times Square and other areas of NYC were riddled with prostitution, etc. Even Harlem, NY is a lot better than it was. But make no mistake, still a good deal about crime.

Plus, crime may be down, however, in a city of 11 million people, the crime rate is probably still high, just given the amount of people in NYC.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Parker on December 28, 2012, 04:24:30 PM
Well, Guiliani did clean it up a lot. Times Square and other areas of NYC were riddled with prostitution, etc. Even Harlem, NY is a lot better than it was. But make no mistake, still a good deal about crime.

Plus, crime may be down, however, in a city of 11 million people, the crime rate is probably still high, just given the amount of people in NYC.
also, what type of crime is down, and what type goes up.
Prostitution probably is still high, but in other forms---escort services, back pages, etc.
The ones walking the track probably are the crackheads, desperate chicks and ghetto snipe.
The public likes numbers, so when certain numbers to down, they are ok.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: SF1900 on December 28, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
also, what type of crime is down, and what type goes up.
Prostitution probably is still high, but in other forms---escort services, back pages, etc.
The ones walking the track probably are the crackheads, desperate chicks and ghetto snipe.
The public likes numbers, so when certain numbers to down, they are ok.

No, even that is down. 20+ years ago you'd have hookers walking the streets like its nothing. You do not see that as much. As you said, they may have smartened up and now do things like this through escort services.

But Guiliani got rid of the peep shows and a lot of the sex shops that used to be in nyc. That did cause a decrease in the number of sex-related crimes. However, as you said, they may have migrated to other ways.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: JBGRAY on December 28, 2012, 04:37:28 PM
No one likes to look at the underlying causes of why some things happen, because bursting out in an emotional response is so much easier and attention-grabbing.  Many of these causes and possible solutions would make many uncomfortable and likely cross their particular political and cultural sensitivities.  

Mass shooting or homicide rate going up at a certain number?  Let's BAN all guns!  Of course, we cannot utter such crazy things such as if psychiatric drugs were involved, poverty rates, access to abortion and social service facilities, etc.....  And God forbid someone say something along the lines of "no matter what, an occasional mass killing WILL happen, no matter what."

Insensitivity trumps logic nowadays.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: BILL ANVIL on December 28, 2012, 04:58:30 PM
wow. almost as much as all of canada, thats insanity.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: cswol on December 28, 2012, 05:04:05 PM
its because guns are banned in chicago, if people were packin heat like in texas and arizona the shit would decrease
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Parker on December 28, 2012, 05:07:36 PM
No, even that is down. 20+ years ago you'd have hookers walking the streets like its nothing. You do not see that as much. As you said, they may have smartened up and now do things like this through escort services.

But Guiliani got rid of the peep shows and a lot of the sex shops that used to be in nyc. That did cause a decrease in the number of sex-related crimes. However, as you said, they may have migrated to other ways.
down here in MD, there are a lot of young girls coming from NYC who are either being pimped out, or using backpages...due to BWI being a centrally located airport on the east coast and also the casinos, they have set up shop...and also go from city to city.

Good, that all that stuff is shutdown. But who goes to peeps how's now, when there is the Internet?
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Immortal_Technique on December 28, 2012, 05:11:02 PM
Some of the strictest gun laws in the United States , Yet these laws designed to prevent this has only made it worse

Ya man's right, you should legalise gun murders!
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Immortal_Technique on December 28, 2012, 05:13:58 PM
if you aren't doing unlawful stuff, you have nothing to worry about. it's still safer than a white boy with issues showing up at a screening of batman.

You don't know the stats, that didn't happen. Read up on it kid  ::)
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: cswol on December 28, 2012, 08:29:07 PM
the kid that shot up the batman theater in aurora was in a government program mk ultra under darpa, and it was a setup just like this other one, and there were multiple shooters at both shootings, people dont get the facts thru the mainstream media they are bought and paid for by the illuminati, you wont ever get facts watching your tv.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: CARTEL on December 28, 2012, 08:34:40 PM
COO-COO!
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Radical Plato on December 28, 2012, 08:42:07 PM
if you aren't doing unlawful stuff, you have nothing to worry about. it's still safer than a white boy with issues showing up at a screening of batman.
As long as you don't think you have the right to walk to the shops and buy some iced tea and skittles, you have nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: BB on December 28, 2012, 09:05:30 PM
Well, Guiliani did clean it up a lot. Times Square and other areas of NYC were riddled with prostitution, etc. Even Harlem, NY is a lot better than it was. But make no mistake, still a good deal about crime.

Plus, crime may be down, however, in a city of 11 million people, the crime rate is probably still high, just given the amount of people in NYC.

Homicides are down, but that is because the heavy street drug trade came to an end, and there were new jobs and money in the area. When they point to crime reduction, they always make sure to point to the late 80's, early 90's when the city was awful.

Also they cook the books by down grading crimes or plea bargaining crimes down so that something that should be a felony gets talked down to a high misdemeanor, or a shooting with minor injuries might get filed under the more polite "reckless endangerment" or similar.

Crime is rising though - http://www.villagevoice.com/2012-10-03/news/new-york-crime-rate-rising/ .

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/09/new_evidence_em.php .    
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on December 28, 2012, 09:26:53 PM
Chi Town is no joke. Huge city with plenty of scary areas. Gentrification scattered the criminals everywhere, that used to be concentrated on the south side.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Figo on December 28, 2012, 10:00:26 PM
Giulianni seems to have been on the ball, good job. He even made it illegal to wash someones windscreen at traffic lights, revamped the police department, put more cops on street, etc

Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 28, 2012, 10:15:04 PM
Chi Town is no joke. Huge city with plenty of scary areas. Gentrification scattered the criminals everywhere, that used to be concentrated on the south side.

The Housing Project idea failed when the entire areas became war zones run by the street gangs. The City could have stepped in and saved those areas for the decent folks, but the Community Organizer and politico ilk were always backed by gang money and votes. When the west side (Cabrini Green) land became worth more than the projects, Washinton, Sawyer, Dailey Jr. and Emanuel, and their developer buddies razed the buildings. They sent the criminal element out to unsuspecting white suburbs to live in Section 8 housing. Now you have Nig-Nog crime spreading to Carol Stream, Carpentersville et al.

Chicago blatantly cooks the books on violent crime, shootings, rape, and homicides and still has over 500 "reported" homicides a year. The politicians don't care because the vast majority of the crime is gang, drug or minority related.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Figo on December 29, 2012, 12:18:46 AM
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Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Powerlift66 on December 29, 2012, 02:53:55 AM
And I thought this place (Boston) was bad, only 49 for the year.. WTF Chicago ??
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on December 29, 2012, 12:38:01 PM
The Housing Project idea failed when the entire areas became war zones run by the street gangs. The City could have stepped in and saved those areas for the decent folks, but the Community Organizer and politico ilk were always backed by gang money and votes. When the west side (Cabrini Green) land became worth more than the projects, Washinton, Sawyer, Dailey Jr. and Emanuel, and their developer buddies razed the buildings. They sent the criminal element out to unsuspecting white suburbs to live in Section 8 housing. Now you have Nig-Nog crime spreading to Carol Stream, Carpentersville et al.

Chicago blatantly cooks the books on violent crime, shootings, rape, and homicides and still has over 500 "reported" homicides a year. The politicians don't care because the vast majority of the crime is gang, drug or minority related.
Well said.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2012, 01:28:02 PM
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Rudee on December 29, 2012, 01:41:56 PM
I'm currently in Calgary visiting with some family for the holidays.   Big City with over a million people.   Only 17 homicides for the year here.  Chicago probably gets that in a single weekend.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: BILL ANVIL on December 29, 2012, 02:25:26 PM
maybe its white genocide happening in usa, just like in south africa lol
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2012, 02:27:06 PM
maybe its white genocide happening in usa, just like in south africa lol

most of it is black-on-black crime
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: BILL ANVIL on December 29, 2012, 03:03:32 PM
most of it is black-on-black crime

whites are also being wiped out no?
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: ZeroPatience on December 29, 2012, 04:09:23 PM
I live in a decent neighborhood on the south side of Chicago, but about a mile away is one of the worst places you would ever want to be around. White guys like me would be killed instantly. That's the way Chicago is...decent neighborhoods surrounded by some of the most ghetto and violent neighborhoods around.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: BILL ANVIL on December 29, 2012, 04:33:14 PM
I live in a decent neighborhood on the south side of Chicago, but about a mile away is one of the worst places you would ever want to be around. White guys like me would be killed instantly. That's the way Chicago is...decent neighborhoods surrounded by some of the most ghetto and violent neighborhoods around.

is most of this black on black crime or just gang violence ?
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: BB on December 29, 2012, 05:01:28 PM
is most of this black on black crime or just gang violence ?

In Chicago, it's some wild percentage like 70 - 75% of murders are committed by blacks, with 93% of the victims being other blacks.

If it's anything like NY, most of it is probably drug and gang related.  An interesting thing that seems to be happening in the east, is that we're adopting a turf based violence like LA had/has, that isn't necessarily tied to the drug trade as much anymore.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 29, 2012, 05:48:05 PM
I live in a decent neighborhood on the south side of Chicago, but about a mile away is one of the worst places you would ever want to be around. White guys like me would be killed instantly. That's the way Chicago is...decent neighborhoods surrounded by some of the most ghetto and violent neighborhoods around.

I know what you mean, I went to school at the University of Chicago and spent lots of time in Hyde Park. Then less than a mile away you got the Henry Horner homes.

I was dating a nice girl in Chinatown. We used to take her elderly grandfather to games at the old Comiskey Park. Practically had to shoot our way in and shoot our way out of that place.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Rudee on December 29, 2012, 05:50:28 PM
I live in a decent neighborhood on the south side of Chicago, but about a mile away is one of the worst places you would ever want to be around. White guys like me would be killed instantly. That's the way Chicago is...decent neighborhoods surrounded by some of the most ghetto and violent neighborhoods around.

You're a mere mile away from one of the worst places in Chicago, and yet you call where you live a decent neighborhood?   If I even lived 10 miles away from such an dangerous place, I doubt I would feel safe.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2012, 05:54:46 PM
I know what you mean, I went to school at the University of Chicago and spent lots of time in Hyde Park. Then less than a mile away you got the Henry Horner homes.

I was dating a nice girl in Chinatown. We used to take her elderly grandfather to games at the old Comiskey Park. Practically had to shoot our way in and shoot our way out of that place.
Unmistakable -Bike Nut piffle.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: OTHstrong on December 29, 2012, 06:00:10 PM
still a few days left to set an all time record.. come on chicago, you can do it  :D

CHICAGO (AP) — Chicago has logged its 500th homicide of 2012.

The last time the city reached the 500-homicide mark was in 2008, when the year ended with 512 killings. Last year, city records show Chicago had 435 homicides.

On Thursday, officials with the Chicago Police Department said the city was one homicide away from the 500 mark. Hours later, a 40-year-old man was fatally shot in the Austin neighborhood on the city's West Side. Police say Nathaniel Jackson was found on the sidewalk outside a convenience store with a gunshot wound to the head late Thursday.

The Cook County Medical Examiner's Office says Jackson was pronounced dead at Stroger Hospital early Friday.

Jackson's death remains under investigation. No arrests have been made.

http://news.yahoo.com/chicago-reaches-500-homicides-fatal-shooting-145951769.html

WTF are you retarded?, ``come on Chicago, you can do it``  ??? ::)
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 29, 2012, 06:26:54 PM
You're a mere mile away from one of the worst places in Chicago, and yet you call where you live a decent neighborhood?   If I even lived 10 miles away from such an dangerous place, I doubt I would feel safe.

Chicago is a city of neighborhoods, so even in a few miles distance, things can change quite a bit. It's not so abrupt in the suburbs. The city publishes crime by neighborhood statistics and maps, which usually show three or four areas as being the worst for crime.

In the ethnic areas that are predominately Irish, Polish, Chinese, Japanese, Scandanavian etc., the crime rates are relatively low.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: WOOO on December 29, 2012, 06:31:36 PM
american'ts amaze me
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: ZeroPatience on December 29, 2012, 07:14:01 PM
thats the way chicago is set up...decent neighborhoods near the shitty ones..just gotta be careful not to cross the tracks at night and get shot by some ghetto um...black person.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: ZeroPatience on December 29, 2012, 07:17:03 PM
and if you venture in he opposite directions of the blacks you have the wanna be gangbanger mexicans who will only fight you if they have 10 of their pussy friends along with them...but as long as you show the blacks you're not scared they back down right away...they are all about intimidation where im from
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: CARTEL on December 29, 2012, 07:18:39 PM
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Shockwave on December 29, 2012, 07:21:43 PM
and if you venture in he opposite directions of the blacks you have the wanna be gangbanger mexicans who will only fight you if they have 10 of their pussy friends along with them...but as long as you show the blacks you're not scared they back down right away...they are all about intimidation where im from
Yeah, it was that way where I am from as well.

The Mexicans.. they were the ones to worry about. The most random thing could happen, and they'd go get their family and stab the dude up for "disrespecting" him....

This one Mexican dude started a fight at a party and got his ass kicked, went home, came back with his dad and brother and stabbed the kid that beat his ass like 10 times in the side... Killed the poor kid. We didn't even know what was happening until we hear the kid screaming, by then the Mexicans were gone and he was dying.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: ZeroPatience on December 29, 2012, 07:32:33 PM
yep...not trying to sound too racist but every black or mexican guy who every started anything with me backed off the moment they realized i wasn't afraid and they didn't have their homies with them...
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Ropo on December 29, 2012, 11:35:00 PM
Some of the strictest gun laws in the United States , Yet these laws designed to prevent this has only made it worse

How gun laws effect to criminals? Do they fundamentally obey laws like gun law? And if criminals have guns, how smart it is to take them away from law-abiding citizens?
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: BILL ANVIL on December 29, 2012, 11:59:55 PM
dangerous for our standards but could always be worse. something like 50 a day in south africa and its only the size of texas.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Figo on December 30, 2012, 12:17:12 AM
dangerous for our standards but could always be worse. something like 50 a day in south africa and its only the size of texas.

Yep, its 50 a day, and its gone down, used to be higher

Probably the highest vehicle hijacking rate anywhere too, in Joburg

I reside in Cape Town, whilst town and suburbs are safe compared to Johannesburg, the outlying and sorrounding areas have a high gang presence that make your gang-bangers, latino gangs, etc look like boy scouts.
Murder is a way of life. Some of them upon release from prison, go and commit a random murder or serious crime just to go back in, they can't function in society.
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Figo on December 30, 2012, 12:19:55 AM
Bill Anvil,

I didn't realise Texas that fucking huge, that SA, not exactly a small country, can fit in it...!
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: BILL ANVIL on December 30, 2012, 12:24:04 AM
Yep, its 50 a day, and its gone down, used to be higher

Probably the highest vehicle hijacking rate anywhere too, in Joburg

I reside in Cape Town, whilst town and suburbs are safe compared to Johannesburg, the outlying and sorrounding areas have a high gang presence that make your gang-bangers, latino gangs, etc look like boy scouts.
Murder is a way of life. Some of them upon release from prison, go and commit a random murder or serious crime just to go back in, they can't function in society.

as far as I know most of these murders go unpunished, theres just too many and police dont have the resources/or are too corrupt to do anything about it. whites are still leaving or just being killed off. sounds to me like a horrible place. thousands of rapes per year too
Title: Re: Chicago reaches 500 homicides with fatal shooting
Post by: Figo on December 30, 2012, 07:49:53 AM
as far as I know most of these murders go unpunished, theres just too many and police dont have the resources/or are too corrupt to do anything about it. whites are still leaving or just being killed off. sounds to me like a horrible place. thousands of rapes per year too

SA is similar to Brazil in that respect

There are areas you think are paradise, beautiful people, lots of wealth, safe, first world scenario

Then, there's the areas you wouldn't want to enter even with a tank

Oddly enough, the distance between these areas is not that great, and people live parallel lives with an invisible curtain bordering them

Senseless farm murders in rural areas up country (free state, Jhb), rapes (some people of colour still believe that by having intercourse with a baby can cure AIDS, or you can wash it off), home invasions that lead to murders, hijacking is like a past-time in Jhb.

A lot of people have moved to Cape Town to evade crime over the last two decades or so. Crime obviously follows. Also all the foreign africans doesn't help. Not being xenophobic, but there's enough problems, without having to take in more people that do not add to society, just exacerbate the problem.