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Title: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2013, 08:13:00 AM
The slaying of black youth only matters when white people (actual or perceived) kill them.

I doubt Russell would have made the cover of JET magazine, had another black male shot him.

(http://www.theroot.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/blog-image-full/emmett-till-jordan-davis-123012-575hc.jpeg)


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: blacken700 on January 02, 2013, 10:07:06 AM
 The Moral of the Story:  don't let talk radio do your thinking for you


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2013, 10:24:58 AM
The Moral of the Story:  don't let talk radio do your thinking for you

Yet again, Speak-N-Spell boy, your buffoonery is on display.


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: blacken700 on January 02, 2013, 10:27:04 AM
rush is coming on, go get your talking points  :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2013, 10:28:57 AM
rush is coming on, go get your talking points  :D :D :D :D :D

One, Rush in on vacation.

Two, this has nothing to do with him or any other talk show. Try addressing the actual topic for once.

Your fixation is quite unhealthy. If only you'd dedicate that to a spelling bee.


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: blacken700 on January 02, 2013, 10:31:36 AM
the dumbing down of the repub party.   mcway is fox news smart  :D :D :D


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2013, 10:32:03 AM
the dumbing down of the repub party.   mcway is fox news smart  :D :D :D

You're not a Republican. What's your excuse?


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: blacken700 on January 02, 2013, 10:33:42 AM
probably from reading to many of your posts  :D :D


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: Archer77 on January 02, 2013, 10:47:43 AM
I've got to admit that MCWAY has a valid point. There is no sensationalism in a black kid killing another black kid.  When a white person does the killing it plugs right into a very old narrative and sells.


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2013, 10:50:47 AM
I've got to admit that MCWAY has a valid point. There is no sensationalism in a black kid killing another black kid.  When a white person does the killing it plugs right into a very old narrative and sells.

Precisely! With the Martin case, the more Hispanic Zimmerman became, the more this story got buried.


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: Archer77 on January 02, 2013, 10:53:56 AM
Precisely! With the Martin case, the more Hispanic Zimmerman became, the more this story got buried.

I think they thought he was a Jew too.   Imagine the salivating going on at the idea of a white jew killing a black kid.   I can imagine the look on old Al Sharpton's face when he saw zimmerman for the first time.   He was thinking to himself, how am I going to sell this now.


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2013, 10:57:01 AM
I think they thought he was a Jew too.   Imagine the salivating going on at the idea of a white jew killing a black kid.   I can imagine the look on old Al Sharpton's face when he saw zimmerman for the first time.   He was thinking to himself, how am I going to sell this now.

Isn't one of Zimmerman's maternal grandparents black? If so, this is be black-on-black crime, which makes it USELESS for the political left agenda-pushing purposes.


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: blacken700 on January 02, 2013, 10:58:57 AM
Isn't one of Zimmerman's maternal grandparents black? If so, this is be black-on-black crime, which makes it USELESS for the political left agenda-pushing purposes.

left right argument     fox news smart


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2013, 11:00:59 AM
left right argument     fox news smart

Pull the string and try again, Speak-N-Spell boy!!


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 02, 2013, 11:03:31 AM
left right argument     fox news smart


And you are MSNBC dumb.   Whats your point?


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2013, 11:06:24 AM
Isn't one of Zimmerman's maternal grandparents black? If so, this is be black-on-black crime, which makes it USELESS for the political left agenda-pushing purposes.

It's his great-grandfather. Therefore, this is "black on black" crime. Oh well!!


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: blacken700 on January 02, 2013, 11:07:03 AM

And you are MSNBC dumb.   Whats your point?


hahahahaha AND YOUR JUST PLAIN DUMB  :D :D :D


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: blacken700 on January 02, 2013, 11:08:45 AM
mcway and 333386 two peas in a pod  :D :D :D


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2013, 11:11:59 AM

hahahahaha AND YOUR JUST PLAIN DUMB  :D :D :D

Speak-N-Spell boy strikes again!!


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: blacken700 on January 02, 2013, 11:14:07 AM
It's his great-grandfather. Therefore, this is "black on black" crime. Oh well!!

fox news smart


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2013, 11:49:04 AM
fox news smart

Black great-grandfather, Hispanic mother.....How did Zimmerman end up being a "white man" who shot Trayvon Martin again?


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: blacken700 on January 02, 2013, 11:55:48 AM
i don't see black and white i see a moron running around with a gun shooting a kid with a deadly bag of skittles,but when you are hate radio informed you come to different conclusion


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2013, 12:06:33 PM
i don't see black and white i see a moron running around with a gun shooting a kid with a deadly bag of skittles,but when you are hate radio informed you come to different conclusion

"Hate radio" edited the footage of the 911 call, Zimmerman made? OOPS!! That was NBC.

And how did Zimmerman end up with a broken nose and gashes to the back of his head? It couldn't have possibly been that boy with the Skittles.  ::)



Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: blacken700 on January 02, 2013, 12:29:03 PM
and what does that prove,is it proof that martin started the fight,noooo, is it proof that zimm got his ass kicked yesssss,you and your hate radio followers seem to think just because zimm has cut on his head martin must have started it


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2013, 12:36:35 PM
and what does that prove,is it proof that martin started the fight,noooo, is it proof that zimm got his ass kicked yesssss,you and your hate radio followers seem to think just because zimm has cut on his head martin must have started it

WRONG, Speak-N-Spell boy. Try letting the facts come to light, before making any judgments. Instead, YOUR media followers concocted this whole evil-racist-white-guy-shoots-sweet-innocent-black-kid-in-cold-blood mantra, doctoring audio evidence, ignoring medical records and video, and referring to Zimmerman as a "White Hispanic", once his mother's ethnicity became known.

After all, brown-on-black or black-on-black violence doesn't have much political clout.


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: blacken700 on January 02, 2013, 12:48:52 PM
"Hate radio" edited the footage of the 911 call, Zimmerman made? OOPS!! That was NBC.

And how did Zimmerman end up with a broken nose and gashes to the back of his head? It couldn't have possibly been that boy with the Skittles.  ::)


before making judgements hahahahhahahahah  hate radio approved    fox news smart


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 02, 2013, 12:57:08 PM
before making judgements hahahahhahahahah  hate radio approved    fox news smart

Trayvon is probably serving trays of prison food to the other inmates in the Big Penetentiary up in the Sky. 


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2013, 01:32:32 PM
before making judgements hahahahhahahahah  hate radio approved    fox news smart

Medical reports and video confirmed Zimmerman's injuries. Try that on for size, Speak-N-Spell boy.



Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: blacken700 on January 02, 2013, 01:40:36 PM
Medical reports and video confirmed Zimmerman's injuries. Try that on for size, Speak-N-Spell boy.



nice try where did i say zimm didn't have injuries   fox news smart, need we say more   :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2013, 06:39:07 PM
nice try where did i say zimm didn't have injuries   fox news smart, need we say more   :D :D :D :D :D

I never claim you denied his injuries, Speak-N-Spell boy. Thanks for playing!!


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 02, 2013, 06:49:50 PM
nice try where did i say zimm didn't have injuries   fox news smart, need we say more   :D :D :D :D :D

Trayvon is probably serving trays of prison food to the other inmates in the Big Penetentiary up in the Sky.   


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: blacken700 on January 02, 2013, 06:54:20 PM
I never claim you denied his injuries, Speak-N-Spell boy. Thanks for playing!!

so what's your point   lil hannity


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2013, 07:22:32 PM
so what's your point   lil hannity

The point is at the beginning of the thread. When you pass remedial spelling and get a clue, maybe you'll be able to digest that (without building a fever of 103, in the process).


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: blacken700 on January 02, 2013, 07:26:28 PM
Medical reports and video confirmed Zimmerman's injuries. Try that on for size, Speak-N-Spell boy.




fox news smart


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: Shockwave on January 02, 2013, 08:27:09 PM
I think the moral of this story, is that if you don't want to get shot, don't get in fights with Mexicans.

Where I live, this is common knowledge, shit happens all the time.


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 02, 2013, 08:32:18 PM

fox news smart

Trayvon is probably serving trays of prison food to the other inmates in the Big Penetentiary up in the Sky. 


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: JBGRAY on January 03, 2013, 01:36:52 AM
White on Black violence, esp. when perpetrated on black youth, is especially enticing to media outlets.  Big ratings, big talking points, and it gives opportunities for so-called civil rights leaders such as the NAACP, Urban League, RAINBOW/PUSH Coalition, The Reverends, National Black Caucus, megachurch pastors, etc(all of whom's leaders are multi-millionaires, btw) a chance to rear their ugly heads on cable news networks decrying the violence against black youths.  High incarceration rates, broken families, and ignorance ensure these charlatans stay in business by ensuring their constituents are kept in the dirt.

George Zimmerman's ethnicity was a central topic throughout the case.  One of the top Google searches asks if Zimmerman was Jewish.  The Hispanic advocacy group(LOL) LaRaza were quick to reject him, stating that he wasn't one of "theirs."  The media in general referred to him as a "White Hispanic", a term that outside of census and demographic topics, is very rarely used especially when describing an individual. 



Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: Archer77 on January 03, 2013, 05:46:46 AM
White on Black violence, esp. when perpetrated on black youth, is especially enticing to media outlets.  Big ratings, big talking points, and it gives opportunities for so-called civil rights leaders such as the NAACP, Urban League, RAINBOW/PUSH Coalition, The Reverends, National Black Caucus, megachurch pastors, etc(all of whom's leaders are multi-millionaires, btw) a chance to rear their ugly heads on cable news networks decrying the violence against black youths.  High incarceration rates, broken families, and ignorance ensure these charlatans stay in business by ensuring their constituents are kept in the dirt.

George Zimmerman's ethnicity was a central topic throughout the case.  One of the top Google searches asks if Zimmerman was Jewish.  The Hispanic advocacy group(LOL) LaRaza were quick to reject him, stating that he wasn't one of "theirs."  The media in general referred to him as a "White Hispanic", a term that outside of census and demographic topics, is very rarely used especially when describing an individual. 


Spot on!  Good post!


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: 240 is Back on January 03, 2013, 12:59:29 PM
trayvon feared for his life after fat man chased him 2 blocks thru the dark night with a gun.



Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 03, 2013, 02:40:52 PM
The slaying of black youth only matters when white people (actual or perceived) kill them.

I doubt Russell would have made the cover of JET magazine, had another black male shot him.

(http://www.theroot.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/blog-image-full/emmett-till-jordan-davis-123012-575hc.jpeg)


That black and white is Emmett Till....and he was killed by a white person.....this is what he looked like at his funeral.  His mother had an open casket to show people exactly what they did to him


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/Emmit_Till_body.jpg)

(http://ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/emtill1.jpg)


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 03, 2013, 02:44:43 PM
Trayvon is up in the Big House in the sky w a doobie in the ash tray in the rec room and serving food trays to the other inmates and resting in peace. 




Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: blacken700 on January 03, 2013, 04:16:31 PM
Trayvon is up in the Big House in the sky w a doobie in the ash tray in the rec room and serving food trays to the other inmates and resting in peace. 




if you had a kid you would see a problem with this,but since you can't find a girl hard up enough to have sex with you you will never have this problem,unless they can find some way a sex doll can have babies


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: 24KT on January 03, 2013, 10:50:01 PM
i don't see black and white i see a moron running around with a gun shooting a kid with a deadly bag of skittles,but when you are hate radio informed you come to different conclusion

BINGO!!!

People are sooo missing the point of this tragedy.
Just acting like mindless drones allowing the media and their racist biases to do their thinking for them.

I wonder if people would still have the same entrenched positions if both Zimmerman & Martin were WASPs, or if both were Black, or if bother were hispanic, or if Zimmerman was Black, and Martin white?


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: JBGRAY on January 04, 2013, 01:14:16 AM

People are sooo missing the point of this tragedy.
Just acting like mindless drones allowing the media and their racist biases to do their thinking for them.

I wonder if people would still have the same entrenched positions if both Zimmerman & Martin were WASPs, or if both were Black, or if bother were hispanic, or if Zimmerman was Black, and Martin white?

There is some merit to this.  I believe many would be more likely to come to the defense of Martin had he been white and the shooter been black.  The case would also not receive as much exposure had victim/defendant been of the same race and by now would be largely forgotten.

What this incident should focus on is fear, the emotion that motivates everything we do.  Martin had similar physical attributes and mannerisms as previous burglars and prowlers that were seen in the neighborhood committing criminal acts.  Zimmerman's aggressive tactics provoked fear in Martin, who likely knew nothing of the recent criminal events. 


Title: Re: Jordan Davis and Trayvon Martin - The Moral of the Story:
Post by: 24KT on January 04, 2013, 03:39:56 AM
There is some merit to this.  I believe many would be more likely to come to the defense of Martin had he been white and the shooter been black.  The case would also not receive as much exposure had victim/defendant been of the same race and by now would be largely forgotten.

What this incident should focus on is fear, the emotion that motivates everything we do.  Martin had similar physical attributes and mannerisms as previous burglars and prowlers that were seen in the neighborhood committing criminal acts.  Zimmerman's aggressive tactics provoked fear in Martin, who likely knew nothing of the recent criminal events. 

Exactly, that's why profiling can be so wrong. When you look at vague profiles that cast nets too wide.. teenage black male. Declares an entire demographic guilty. Good luck walking out of your house, ...especially when that profile consists of factors one is powerless to change.

Zimmerman has fear, ...bu obviously not ENOUGH fear, or he would have stayed put when advised to do so by police. He sure as heck wouldn't have followed an innocent kid 2 blocks.

Who can argue Martin didn't have a justifiable right to fear for his life when an armed man stalks him for two blocks?

All you guys who argued how justifiable Zimmerman was, or hat he should have received a medal, ... would you feel the same way if the victim was a blond haired, blue eyed WASP teenager named Johnny Appleseed, ...and the shooter was an Iraqi, or Afghan Muslim? Afterall, we have seen much precedent over the past decade where Americans have gone into many Muslim communities and no only committed tremendous thefts, but also wanton destruction, and murder. Would you be so supportive of the Arab Muslim who stalked then shot an innocent unarmed white teenager? Would you call that teenager a thug because he may have smoked recreational herbs (ala 8x Olympic Gold medallist Michael Phelps?)   like most kids in America today?

Just consider what your gut reactions would be? Or the debate you'd be having.

What if it had been a woman? ...who upon seeing a bodybuilder got scared because after all Craig Titus had committed murder of a woman smaller than him, ...therefore upon sight, all bodybuilders should be feared, then stalked for 2 blocks, confronted and shot?