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A Connecticut Town Is Burning Violent Video Games In Response To The Newtown Massacre
Adam Gabbatt, The Guardian|32 minutes ago|1|
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A Connecticut community is to hold an amnesty of violent video games in the wake of last month's mass shooting in Newtown.
Organisers Southington SOS plan to offer gift certificates in exchange for donated games, which will be burned. The group, a coalition of local organisations, says its actions do not assert that video games were the cause of the killings in nearby Newtown, but argues that violent games and films desensitize children to "acts of violence".
Pupils from Sandy Hook elementary school, where 26 people were killed on 17 December, returned to classes for the first time on Thursday in the neighbouring town of Monroe. Sandy Hook elementary is still being treated as a crime scene and it is unclear if it will ever reopen.
The video game amnesty will take place on 12 January in Southington, a 30-minute drive east from Newtown. The town of Southington has provided a dumpster, organisers said, where violent video games, CDs or DVDs will be collected.
"As people arrive in their cars to turn in their games of violence, they will be offered a gift certificate donated by a member of the Greater Southington Chamber of Commerce as a token of appreciation for their action of responsible citizenship," the group said in a statement.
"Violent games turned in will be destroyed and placed in the town dumpster for appropriate permanent disposal."
John Myers, chairman of Southington YMCA and member of Southington SOS, was not immediately available to speak to the Guardian, but tech website Polygon reported that the works would be incinerated by town employees.
The press release accompanying the announcement said that Southington SOS's action should not be "construed as statement declaring that violent video games were the cause of the shocking violence in Newtown on December 14".
"Rather, Southington SOS is saying is that there is ample evidence that violent video games, along with violent media of all kinds, including TV and movies portraying story after story showing a continuous stream of violence and killing, has contributed to increasing aggressiveness, fear, anxiety and is desensitizing our children to acts of violence including bullying.
"Social and political commentators, as well as elected officials including the president, are attributing violent crime to many factors including inadequate gun control laws, a culture of violence and a recreational culture of violence."
Police in Newtown have still not released a motive for why Adam Lanza killed his mother and 26 others, including 20 children, last month. But experts have disputed the link between violent video games and violence.
A study by Texas A&M university last year found that exposure to violent games "had neither short-term nor long-term predictive influences on either positive or negative outcomes". Christopher J Ferguson, one of the report authors, wrote in Time magazine in December that "there is no good evidence that video games or other media contributes, even in a small way, to mass homicides or any other violence among youth".
More than 400 students of Sandy Hook elementary returned to classes for the first time on Thursday at a school in Monroe. The school was heavily guarded by police with officers describing it as the "safest school in America", according to the Associated Press.
Danbury, the nearest large town to Newtown, had been due to host a gun show this coming weekend but the event was cancelled following the massacre in December. The show, which was set to span Saturday and Sunday, was organised by New York-based Big Al's gun shows but pulled after a number of complaints. A man answering the phone at Big Al's gun shows told the Guardian that the event had been permanently cancelled rather than postponed.
This article originally appeared on guardian.co.uk
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/southington-video-game-amnesty-2013-1#ixzz2Gwx4j9Kj
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burning video games in not the answer... burning american't flags and bibles would be a good start
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Time to quit with the trolling
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Talk about a waste of time. People always want to place the blame on something other than the real issue. The issue is that he was a nutjob and shit happens. Arm your teachers and move on.
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http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2013/01/03/state-medical-examiner-employee-accused-of-letting-husband-view-body-of-newtown-school-gunman
Lol. Moron.
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Talk about a waste of time. People always want to place the blame on something other than the real issue. The issue is that he was a nutjob and shit happens. Arm your teachers and move on.
The truth is not just that he was a nutjob, ...the truth is we live in a very sick society that produces more & more nutjobs everyday.
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The truth is not just that he was a nutjob, ...the truth is we live in a very sick society that produces more & more nutjobs everyday.
so these arm chair psychiatrists decided that video games are the reason?
I think it has always been a sick society going back as far as the first cultures in Europe. Since it is difficult to predict when someone will go on a killing spree doesn't it make sense to always be prepared for it to happen?
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so these arm chair psychiatrists decided that video games are the reason?
Just another scapegoat to avoid the real issue. A healthy society would never produce video games like that to begin with. There are alot of things this society produces that would never even be conceived in a healthy environment. Violent video games are not the cause, they are merely symptons
I think it has always been a sick society going back as far as the first cultures in Europe. Since it is difficult to predict when someone will go on a killing spree doesn't it make sense to always be prepared for it to happen?
The malignancy has been growing for quite some time (centuries even). The real fear of authorities is not the killing sprees which are difficult to predict, ...but that is the way the debate is being couched. The real fear is the lack of control over society. The 2nd Amendment stands in the way... hence the hegellian dialectic.
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Japan and South Korea's youths consume some of the most violent video games and movies available. We know what their overall murder and violent crime rates are over there.......it is very, very low.
Violent crime rates in the US have also been decreasing the past few decades. Magnification of shootings are hand-selected by media outlets and then splashed all over the newspaper and news sites, leading many to believe as if there is a sudden proliferation of senseless violence throughout a country that has over 320 million people in it.
Possible solutions are most often outside of the political persuasions of people to have an honest discussion. A Leftist/Progressive/Socialist/Democrat would outright reject the concept of religion and a traditional nuclear family, even if such things have been found to be generally beneficial. A RightWinger/NeoCon/Libertarian/Republican may find greater access to birth control and reasonable gun control laws to be equally distasteful. In reality, it is a mixture of solutions that cross many political and cultural boundaries that will unable to be met due to the great political polarization and discourse of Americans.
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Japan and South Korea's youths consume some of the most violent video games and movies available. We know what their overall murder and violent crime rates are over there.......it is very, very low.
Violent crime rates in the US have also been decreasing the past few decades. Magnification of shootings are hand-selected by media outlets and then splashed all over the newspaper and news sites, leading many to believe as if there is a sudden proliferation of senseless violence throughout a country that has over 320 million people in it.
Ya, but Japanese & South Korean societies are no where near as sick & dysfunctional as American, ...although their game shows are pretty far out there and border on the sadistic.
Possible solutions are most often outside of the political persuasions of people to have an honest discussion. A Leftist/Progressive/Socialist/Democrat would outright reject the concept of religion and a traditional nuclear family, even if such things have been found to be generally beneficial. A RightWinger/NeoCon/Libertarian/Republican may find greater access to birth control and reasonable gun control laws to be equally distasteful. In reality, it is a mixture of solutions that cross many political and cultural boundaries that will unable to be met due to the great political polarization and discourse of Americans.
Americans have a nasty tendency to politicize things that have nothing to do with politics other than the fact that they are brought into the dialogue and claimed by one side or the other. ie: Birth control / Family planning, the 2nd Amendment, Family Values. Neither side owns these issues, but they lay claim to them nonetheless.
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Town near Sandy Hook launches $25 violent video game buy-back
The Daily Caller ^ | January 3, 2013 | Robby Soave
Posted on January 4, 2013 2:06:38 AM EST by 2ndDivisionVet
A Connecticut town thirty miles from Sandy Hook will give people $25 to incinerate their violent video games.
Southington, Connecticut is encouraging owners of violent video games to deposit them in a local dumpster near a drive-in movie theater, so that the games can be collected and destroyed. In return, the local Chamber of Commerce will give participants $25 gift cards to be used toward purchases of non-violent entertainment.
The Violent Video Game Return Program has the backing of a diverse coalition of groups, including the Chamber of Commerce, YMCA, fire department, board of education, as well as town officials and clergy members.
The program was born out of a desire to respond proactively to the recent shooting at Sandy Hook elementary that left over 20 children dead, which some say was caused in part by violent video games.
Southington schools superintendent Joe Erardi hopes the program will prompt parents to talk to their kids about violent video games...
(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
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Oh brother... ::)
Let me get my Elvis records to burn too.
Fucking morons.
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Looks like the local Chamber of Commerce has money to burn. Maybe the federal government could get a big gift card from the Chamber of Commerce instead of borrowing money from the Fed & US taxpayers?
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Time to quit with the trolling
i was trying to offer a constructive solution...
from my perspective the greatest threats to american't are:
1. Fanatical Christianity
2. Fanatical Americanism
a complete rethink of the current social contract and puritanical-spiritual belief system is required
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i was trying to offer a constructive solution...
from my perspective the greatest threats to american't are:
1. Fanatical Christianity
2. Fanatical Americanism
a complete rethink of the current social contract and puritanical-spiritual belief system is required
Blind Jingoism is a HUGE problem in the USA.
Let's face it, Americans can be served shit on a stick,
...but God forbid you point it out to them because instead of spitting it out, they'd just circle the wagons, beat their chests, and talk about how great the shit tastes... chanting "We're #1" Then they'd argue amongst themselves over who makes a better poop-kebob, and if there should be one stick in it or two to keep the poop from rolling around on the BBQ grill.
Not a troll, ...just an observation.
As an aside, there was a study done a few years ago where they found there is actually a genetic link ...a real hereditary disposition towards fanaticism
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i was trying to offer a constructive solution...
from my perspective the greatest threats to american't are:
1. Fanatical Christianity
2. Fanatical Americanism
a complete rethink of the current social contract and puritanical-spiritual belief system is required
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Horse shit.
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Horse shit.
believe what you will
this board is never going to be constructive with 333386's 1000 posts/day marathon of spam
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believe what you will
this board is never going to be constructive with 333386's 1000 posts/day marathon of spam
And its going to be constructive with your trolling? lol ::)
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And its going to be constructive with your trolling? lol ::)
fair enough
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uh, that's going to be one hell of a toxic bonfire, maybe even illegal.
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uh, that's going to be one hell of a toxic bonfire, maybe even illegal.
the EPA was drastically slashed during the bush/cheney years (funding cut to all EPA enforcement agencies by 50%)... who's going to stop them
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/sstewert/bushfailure.html (http://www.angelfire.com/rant/sstewert/bushfailure.html)
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lol do you really feel its the govt's job to step in and protect you at every turn woo?
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lol do you really feel its the govt's job to step in and protect you at every turn woo?
of course i do... i am a moderate-capitalist-socialist
i believe in a well funded and managed bureaucratic system with independent oversight and legal review processes...
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the EPA was drastically slashed during the bush/cheney years (funding cut to all EPA enforcement agencies by 50%)... who's going to stop them
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/sstewert/bushfailure.html (http://www.angelfire.com/rant/sstewert/bushfailure.html)
really credible link?
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of course i do... i am a moderate-capitalist-socialist
i believe in a well funded and managed bureaucratic system with independent oversight and legal review processes...
well managed and bureaucratic are oxymorons...
so you have no personal responsibility in protecting yourself?
its up to the govt to protect you at every turn?
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the EPA was drastically slashed during the bush/cheney years (funding cut to all EPA enforcement agencies by 50%)... who's going to stop them
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/sstewert/bushfailure.html (http://www.angelfire.com/rant/sstewert/bushfailure.html)
I doubt anyone is going to stop it. Even though it's probably even illegal under local ordinances. I'm just pointing out how completely stupid these people must be to decide on having a toxic bonfire to protest video games. Brilliant, let's pollute the shit out of our local area as a protest lol... I wouldn't want to be down wind of the burn.
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well managed and bureaucratic are oxymorons...
so you have no personal responsibility in protecting yourself?
its up to the govt to protect you at every turn?
By definition. When one enters a social contract one looks for protection as a group.
quote author=OzmO link=topic=453748.msg6528094#msg6528094 date=1357346330]
really credible link?
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That's credible enough for me. Google the question for more info.
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Here's 1
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/29/AR2007092901759.html
Bush crushed government regulators to the disservice of the americant people
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By definition. When one enters a social contract one looks for protection as a group.
quote author=OzmO link=topic=453748.msg6528094#msg6528094 date=1357346330]
really credible link?
That's credible enough for me. Google the question for more info.
and where in that social contract does it say that the govt should protect you at every turn and individuals have no personal responsibility?
a social contract does not mean total subjugation to the govt...
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Dave Grossman: First-Person Shooter Videogames Should be Banned
January 4 | Katechon
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 8:43:51 PM by Katechon
The first juvenile mass-murder happened for the FIRST TIME in recorded human history in the late 1970s, in California. In 500 years of gun-powder combat, not once had a juvenile committed multiple homicide. We had a couple in the 1980s, and now it's out of control. So what happened?
It's Pavlog Dog, said Lt. Col. Lt. Col. Grossman: our youth is being conditioned from childhood by videogames to be "First-Person Shooters, (FPS) and to associate killing, human death and suffering with reward and pleasure.
Videogames are not "games"; they are mass-murder simulators, Grossman says.
Our kids are being wired from childhood by hyper-violent and realistic video games to be brainless killers, precognitively loaded to be potential murderers. And if videogames are training them to be killers, the movies and many TV shows are the propaganda machines of the gang-bangers.
In videogames, kids are being rewarded to kill, but without any of the benefits coming from the disciplinary training of the Army. And this rewarding response to killing another (virtual) human being deactivates our innate resistance to murdering.
Everyone is born with a deep resistance to killing any member of one’s own species; and this resistance is a key factor in combat.
Most participants in close combat are “frightened out of their wits,” says Grossman. But proper operant conditioning reliably influences the midbrain processing of a frightened human being.
Fire drills condition terrified school children to respond properly during a fire. Conditioning in flight simulators enables frightened pilots to respond reflexively to emergency situations.
Once the bullets start flying, combattants stop thinking with the forebrain (cerebrum) and start thinking with the primitive midbrain. The limbic system and the hypotalamus are in action while killing; whilst the rational brain is deactivated. But even the midbrain processing powerfully resists to the killing of one’s own species; it's a survival mechanism preventing a species from destroying itself.
To overcome this innate resistance to killing other human beings, the military and law enforcement communities have developped operantly conditioned devices using killing simulators in training. Turning killing into a conditionned response.
By the middle of the XXth century, the Human Resources Research Office (HumRRO) of the US Army pioneered a revolution in combat training. This paradigmatic shift would lead warriors firing at bullseye targets to warriors firing at man-shaped pop-up targets that fall when hit.
Brigadier General S.L.A. Marshall observed that only 15 to 20 percent of the individual riflemen in World War II fired their weapons at an exposed enemy soldier. When left to their own devices, 80 percent of the combatants appear to have been unable or unwilling to kill.
But murder simulators produced a dramatic increase in participation in killing. More effective tactical and mechanical mechanisms were developped to enable or force combatants to overcome their resistance to killing.
The application and perfection of conditioning techniques increased the rate of fire to approximately 55 percent in Korea and around 95 percent in Vietnam, says Grossman.
The military’s marksmanship training program, with its pop-up targets, constitutes an highly effective operant conditioning.
Military behaviorists found out how to overcome our innate resistance to murder; they brought way up the percentage of killers among the platoons by incorporating reactive training with humanoid pop-up silhouettes.
Now the video industry has kids playing video games for hours at a time, blasting away at humanoid targets which explode in blood and gore when you shoot them.
In First-Person Shooter videogames, you pull the trigger and the human explodes in high-def blood and gore in front of you. And you do it again and again and again, while eating chips, drinking pop and smelling your girlfriend's perfume. This reconditions the kids to be ready to pull any actual trigger on any living human. Those videogames should be BANNED, restricted to military and law enforcement training.
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and where in that social contract does it say that the govt should protect you at every turn and individuals have no personal responsibility?
a social contract does not mean total subjugation to the govt...
Simplest definition: An implicit agreement among the members of a society to cooperate for social benefits.
More: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/social+contract (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/social+contract)
By definition a social contract implies cooperation... ie a cooperative... ie a hegelian social construct... ie modern socialism...
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Simplest definition: An implicit agreement among the members of a society to cooperate for social benefits.
More: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/social+contract (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/social+contract)
By definition a social contract implies cooperation... ie a cooperative... ie a hegelian social construct... ie modern socialism...
you didnt answer the question, you simply redefined the term...
where in the definition does it say that the govt/group is to protect you at every turn?
where does it say that protection from the group replaces personal responsibility?
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you didnt answer the question, you simply redefined the term...
where in the definition does it say that the govt/group is to protect you at every turn?
where does it say that protection from the group replaces personal responsibility?
personal responsibility in a social contract is to contribute to group safety...
nothing 'replaces' anything
in hobbesian terms you can reserver the right to exit the contract if you feel threatened but you must accept that your life could be in jeopardy in doing so... of course i think hobbes was an idiot (all of his beliefs were founded on his religious upbringing which was seemingly unhealthy (potentially abusive)) but he did have some interesting thoughts...
and from a hobbesian perspective (in Leviathan) a social contract MUST be ruled by an absolute sovereign http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_(book) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_(book))
Hobbes, Locke & Thoreau were largely differentiated based on their thoughts around the level of control required by a government... again all 3 men were interesting idiots (Locke was a puritan, Thoreau was a liar and a wimp)...
Rousseau, Montesquieu & Voltaire took a different but also interesting approach when they evolved the social contract into a 2-way street where 'subjects' had defined liberties (contributing the the american and french revolutions among many other things)...
all of this is far more than i really want to debate on a saturday morning... but all of them considered libertarian ideas to be fancies of the rich
Kant, Hegel and Mark are more to my taste...
but again... this is heavy shit for a saturday morning