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Title: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: BIG ACH on January 04, 2013, 10:51:57 AM
Means you look better in clothes than you do shirtless!  (Pics taken today as I head out to the gym)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2nSUA2-YeN0/UOci1EUM0qI/AAAAAAAAB8I/iB9UqPsZGlE/s755/IMG_20130104_134315_071.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-htNws7RlE3w/UOcj1Y5vHBI/AAAAAAAAB9w/YAGjYWGeWFg/s755/IMG_20130104_134736_389.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: gym**rat on January 04, 2013, 10:53:29 AM
Someone shit on your hat. Hell what am I saying, I am a Chiefs fan. LOL.  :-X
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: mass243 on January 04, 2013, 10:54:04 AM


Looks like it really was the 11th moment to start the diet  :o

Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: BIG ACH on January 04, 2013, 10:54:26 AM
fuck you look pregnant with tits and the full package.

Yes... which is why I said its about time to diet!  Think enough is enough!


Looks like it really was the 11th moment to start the diet  :o



 ;D true!
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: SF1900 on January 04, 2013, 10:56:48 AM
You have very nice boobs.

what size bra?
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: daddy8ball on January 04, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
Nice hat! Go Skins!
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: BIG ACH on January 04, 2013, 11:00:06 AM
You have very nice boobs.

what size bra?

48 C ;D  You like?
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: 240 is Back on January 04, 2013, 11:00:41 AM
what was your current daily diet to achieve that shape?
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: SF1900 on January 04, 2013, 11:01:03 AM
48 C ;D  You like?

Yes, you are a beautiful man with perfect breasts.
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: Archer77 on January 04, 2013, 11:02:25 AM
You have to give props.  BIGA is got some body fat on him but you can still tell he has muscle under there.   And he isn't delusional about his condition.
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: mass243 on January 04, 2013, 11:04:42 AM
You have to give props.  BIGA is got some body fat on him but you can still tell he has muscle under there.   And he isn't delusional about his condition.


Absolutely, I think this was clear.
Arms especially are massive and as Galeniko said, are gonna look brutal when he is done with the diet.
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: BIG ACH on January 04, 2013, 11:05:15 AM
ok, this is out of shape, but withing 3 months you can be shredded, within 2 you can be considerably lean.

either way, those arms gonna look brutal.

do it, man

Thanks!  Thats the plan!  If I'm so lucky... maybe I can be an uglier version of you one day  :D


what was your current daily diet to achieve that shape?

I'm heading out to the gym now!  Can give you a full outline later, but it was 4000 calories, and Pizza every Sunday watching my skins kick ass  8)

You have to give props.  BIGA is got some body fat on him but you can still tell he has muscle under there.   And he isn't delusional about his condition.

Thanks dude!!!  I try  :D  And ya'll happy to know that I don't wear those gay ass see through shirts anymore than you saw in the other post!

Absolutely, I think this was clear.
Arms especially are massive and as Galeniko said, are gonna look brutal when he is done with the diet.

Thanks buddy!
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: gym**rat on January 04, 2013, 11:06:59 AM
ok, this is out of shape, but withing 3 months you can be shredded, within 2 you can be considerably lean.

either way, those arms gonna look brutal.

do it, man

Well said, especially regarding his arms.
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 04, 2013, 11:07:19 AM
We will all have to eat our words as soon as Big Ach reached 9 % bodyfat-level!
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: gym**rat on January 04, 2013, 11:09:55 AM
We will all have to eat our words as soon as Big Ach reached 9 % bodyfat-level!

Even what I said about his hat??   ;D
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: B_B_C on January 04, 2013, 11:12:40 AM
"bulking up"
dont you mean being a lard Lout ?
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: SilverSpoon on January 04, 2013, 11:13:38 AM
Diet + wrist roller FTW
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: WOOO on January 04, 2013, 11:16:12 AM
not gay, but you have boobies when you're  fat
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: snx on January 04, 2013, 11:20:31 AM
I don't see any gyno...it's just the way the pecs are shaped. When lean, pecs will be defined with no lumps.

I actually think that looks better with pecs...the hanging look. Not like a woman's breasts...like the way Johnny Jackson or Arnold had that pec hang.

Big Ach - you're lucky. You have good lean face even in the off-season. I have to get sub 10% for my face not to look like a balloon. 
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: Mitch on January 04, 2013, 11:50:21 AM
Did you start the bulk since you have the US citizenship?
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: SF1900 on January 04, 2013, 11:51:00 AM
Does your wife ever play with your boobies, Ach?
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: Nomad on January 04, 2013, 11:56:25 AM
Means you look better in clothes than you do shirtless!  (Pics taken today as I head out to the gym)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2nSUA2-YeN0/UOci1EUM0qI/AAAAAAAAB8I/iB9UqPsZGlE/s755/IMG_20130104_134315_071.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-htNws7RlE3w/UOcj1Y5vHBI/AAAAAAAAB9w/YAGjYWGeWFg/s755/IMG_20130104_134736_389.jpg)

Still packing on a lot of muscle mang. Are you timing your cut with redskins season  ;D   

We are finally doing good this year which is amazing considering the teams performance in the last decade. All hail RGIII  :D
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: anabolichalo on January 04, 2013, 11:57:59 AM
bulking up is not useful if you ask me

some people like it tho

whatever edge you have during your bulk, is the anti edge you will have in the cut

at least that's how i see it
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: Krankenstein on January 04, 2013, 12:03:57 PM
Means you look better in clothes than you do shirtless!  (Pics taken today as I head out to the gym)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2nSUA2-YeN0/UOci1EUM0qI/AAAAAAAAB8I/iB9UqPsZGlE/s755/IMG_20130104_134315_071.jpg)


Too much tit fat....WNH
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: The True Adonis on January 04, 2013, 12:11:50 PM
Means you look better in clothes than you do shirtless!  (Pics taken today as I head out to the gym)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2nSUA2-YeN0/UOci1EUM0qI/AAAAAAAAB8I/iB9UqPsZGlE/s755/IMG_20130104_134315_071.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-htNws7RlE3w/UOcj1Y5vHBI/AAAAAAAAB9w/YAGjYWGeWFg/s755/IMG_20130104_134736_389.jpg)
Exactly.  That is how the delusions I believe begins.  First it starts out with being able to lift a ton more weight on exercises, then its the constant compliments in clothes.  Very rarely do most people see the shirt off and most don`t realize that its fat they are seeing so the logical step for them is "you are huge dude", "you have a ton of muscle" and on and on and on.  Thus the delusion begins.  Most never make it out of the delusion.  Luckily Ach, you and I know better.
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 04, 2013, 12:15:16 PM
One of the reasons that I will never marry, it fucks up your metabolism
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: WOOO on January 04, 2013, 01:25:26 PM
Exactly.  That is how the delusions I believe begins.  First it starts out with being able to lift a ton more weight on exercises, then its the constant compliments in clothes.  Very rarely do most people see the shirt off and most don`t realize that its fat they are seeing so the logical step for them is "you are huge dude", "you have a ton of muscle" and on and on and on.  Thus the delusion begins.  Most never make it out of the delusion.  Luckily Ach, you and I know better.


completely true
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: B_B_C on January 04, 2013, 01:34:47 PM

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Yuck.   Who was feeding this slob?

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Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: BDsauce on January 04, 2013, 01:51:13 PM
Your neck gets small when you come off the juice.
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: doriancutlerman on January 04, 2013, 01:56:53 PM

completely true

I agree with you and Adam.  A muscular guy with a lot of bodyfat can look enormous in clothing.  Take the clothes off (or "peel" as Schmoe Teper might demand), and holy shit:  it's a case of, "Get this cat some T3 and clen, STAT!"

Your arms do still look good while that heavy, though, Ach, sho' 'nuff.  I disagree with the esteemed Galeniko vis-a-vis the time it'll actually take you to get in shape, especially natural.  From that starting point, I'd guess 20 weeks plus of severe deprivation might bring you within striking distance of starting a proper, slightly more forgiving, 16-week prep.

... unless, of course, you eschew all this "I want to be natural apart from some M1T years ago" stuff, in which case you could easily halve those estimates.

Just out of curiosity, how much strength have you gained in the past year or two?  I know you're a volume dude, but the few clips I've seen of you training (e.g., the cable hammer curls) were so sloppy, it made some of Bertil Fox's shit look almost strict by comparison.  Tighten up the form and lower the sets, man.  Granted, I'm not natural, but I get a shitload more out of two sets of biceps than you might've out of 10 sloppy sets of cable hammers.  

Consider this ...

In my last biceps workout, I did a set of incline DB bench curls, with the bench barely above parallel.  I did a pair of 45's to failure at about 8 reps.  Each rep was initiated from a dead stop at the bottom, and I lowered both bells with a solid three count (one-thousand-one, one-thousand, two, etc.).  Then, boom, I accelerate through the positive as much as possible, stopping just short of the bells brushing my pecs.

I reached failure after 9 reps (the tenth was a no-go).  I stood up and took 15 deep breaths.  I grabbed the weights again and got 2 more reps -- 3 if you count the rep I cheated up with my delts.  I stood up and did the same breathing routine, lay back on the bench and got two more.  The second rep for each arm was a real fight.  

Next, after 3-5 min. rest, I did a move I learned from Steve Nilsson, the three-stage reverse BB curl.  I've worked up to 65 on these.  On the first phase, you curl the weight up and then do rapid quarter reps in the top of the ROM.  I think I got 54 with that.  Then you set the bar down and shake your hands out for 10 seconds (I typically wait more like 20), pick the bar up again, then do top-half reps.  I got maybe 9.  Next, you set the thing down for a similar rest period, then do full reps with the same weight.

I managed maybe 4.  I tried to cheat up another one or two but my arms were shot.

Do that and 20 sets/bodypart will seem like a joke, bro.
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: dj181 on January 04, 2013, 02:01:50 PM
One of the reasons that I will never marry, it fucks up your metabolism

your metabolism or her metabolism ;D
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: anabolichalo on January 04, 2013, 02:02:37 PM
imagine if ach could just do a stomach liposuction and keep all the other "mass"
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 04, 2013, 02:05:22 PM
your metabolism or her metabolism ;D

Both!
It also lowers a man's test level, esp when you start a family.
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: anabolichalo on January 04, 2013, 02:07:43 PM
Both!
It also lowers a man's test level, esp when you start a family.
is that a fact or an impression

it is odd from an evolutionary point, a man would need more testosterone to take care of a family (more hunting and gathering)
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 04, 2013, 02:10:16 PM
is that a fact or an impression

it is odd from an evolutionary point, a man would need more testosterone to take care of a family (more hunting and gathering)

Quote
Marriage And Fatherhood Linked To Lower Testosterone Levels

Marital status and paternal responsibility may have a significant effect on levels of testosterone and other hormones in men, according to two new studies published this fall by a researcher at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas (UNLV).

More: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071010180134.htm
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: anabolichalo on January 04, 2013, 02:11:13 PM
maybe you can get test over the counter when you prove you are married
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: SF1900 on January 04, 2013, 02:12:17 PM
Means you look better in clothes than you do shirtless!  (Pics taken today as I head out to the gym)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2nSUA2-YeN0/UOci1EUM0qI/AAAAAAAAB8I/iB9UqPsZGlE/s755/IMG_20130104_134315_071.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-htNws7RlE3w/UOcj1Y5vHBI/AAAAAAAAB9w/YAGjYWGeWFg/s755/IMG_20130104_134736_389.jpg)

BMC APPROVED!!
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 04, 2013, 02:14:57 PM
maybe you can get test over the counter when you prove you are married

In many cases, Europe is way more liberal the US, but not regarding HRT/TRT  :-\
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: dr.chimps on January 04, 2013, 02:19:35 PM
I think you're being quite liberal with your use of the word 'bulking.'  That's a lot of ACH.
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: a_ahmed on January 04, 2013, 02:21:21 PM
Dude is that your make up bag in front of the mirror? lol

Damn son... you look almost as fat as I did when I was obese... seriously.

Don't let yourself go like that seriously...
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 04, 2013, 02:32:15 PM
I think you're being quite liberal with your use of the word 'bulking.'  That's a lot of ACH.

LOL
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: dustin on January 04, 2013, 03:05:30 PM
There's no such thing as natural bodybuilding. There's just "going to the gym" and then bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: anabolichalo on January 04, 2013, 03:07:18 PM
There's no such thing as natural bodybuilding. There's just "going to the gym" and then bodybuilding.
quote of the year
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: arce1988 on January 04, 2013, 03:07:50 PM
  Female DNA
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: True on January 04, 2013, 03:46:35 PM
You got some decent size for a natural, but you should be more strict with the diet in the off season, rather than just binge on everything you see... Its just harsh to get all that weight off again during a diet. Trust me, Ive been there plenty of times. Never again. :-X
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: Dicki_Nurmom on January 04, 2013, 03:50:16 PM
you have very dark nipples  :-\
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 04, 2013, 05:08:28 PM
What do your waist, chest and arms measure in this shape?
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: james87 on January 04, 2013, 05:12:58 PM
4,000 calories though, I would have thought it would have taken a lot more then 4,000 cals to get to that size. How long were you bulking for bro?

Even still I would have thought you have reached a plateau before that size on 4,000cals. how tall and old are you?
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: NotSure on January 04, 2013, 05:17:51 PM
4,000 calories though, I would have thought it would have taken a lot more then 4,000 cals to get to that size. How long were you bulking for bro?

Even still I would have thought you have reached a plateau before that size on 4,000cals. how tall and old are you?
Idiot
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: james87 on January 04, 2013, 05:42:56 PM
Idiot

I Feel sorry for you and your pathetic genetics if you consider 4,000 a huge amount
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: NotSure on January 04, 2013, 05:44:52 PM
I Feel sorry for you and your pathetic genetics if you consider 4,000 a huge amount
That is more then enough to make your morbidly obese. You are delusional.
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: james87 on January 04, 2013, 06:12:17 PM
That is more then enough to make your morbidly obese. You are delusional.

BS would depend on age, height, weight, exercise etc. Hence my First question

In all seriousness,yes if you were not exercising i agree 4000 cals would make you a fat pig pretty quick. But Ache looks like a pretty big framed dude naturally and fairly tall and still seems young and i assume he trains hard therefore thought it would take a bit more then that to get fat. Don't get me wrong i would of expected pudgy just not that much (no offence)

Now if he trains like a typical permabulker and rests 10 mins between sets and never did cardio then i can understand a little easier
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: BIG ACH on January 04, 2013, 09:52:54 PM
What do your waist, chest and arms measure in this shape?

In this shape.... Chest is 50", waist is 38", arms are right under 19"

I'm 236 now and I've been "bulking" for sometime...  I last competed in 08 AT 157 LBS (159 after carb up)!!!!!  (My normal contest weight is 175-180) and didn't balloon up for sometime but I eventually got up to 225, but in 2010 I dieted down to about 215 (which most people say is my most ideal look) and now back up again to 236.

Keep in mind... this isn't the heaviest I've been..   in 2005 I intentionally "bulked" up to 265....   then in 2006 I stopped training for a while and shrunk down to 250 but was really really fucking fat looking just looked like I didn't even touch a weight.

I know I ate roughly 4000 calories  these past few months/years because I keep a basic spread sheet of what I eat.  But I mean I would go out every now and then, binge and not write it down.  But that wasn't all the time.

I've really been ALL over the chart when it comes to my weight.... I don't even think Lee Priest has fluctuated as much as I have!!!  Let me give you guys a demonstration if I may.... (forgive the attention whoring) but take a look at these pictures of how my weight has changed over the years!

First of all this is what I look like CURRENTLY at 236 lbs:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Pnl1nemO0qU/UOY_ioQCEXI/AAAAAAAAB54/GIdrJBq0tDE/s1127/IMG_20130103_213330_086.jpg)

Now lets go down this journey in Chronological order:

Here I am at my last contest in 2008 at 159 lbs!!!!!!  This is the most shredded I have ever been - look at the tricep striations!!!!!
(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/vcm_s_kf_repr_832x624%20(2012_09_27%2006_14_43%20UTC).jpg)

2 days before I was 157 lbs, and here is a picture of it:
(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/frontrelaxed2days.jpg)

4 weeks before that show in 2008 I was 170 lbs as you can see here:
(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/archer3wks.jpg)

6 weeks before, not sure what the weight was here this is what I looked like (I just thought that this was a bad ass picture albeit not very clear)
(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/DSC00005.jpg)

My best off-season look was in 2007 when I really worked hard to keep my weight down, and here is a picture where I was about 185-190 (Note: I had binged on McDonalds earlier that day before I took the picture!)
(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/img021.jpg)

In the summer of 2006 I had stopped training for sometime, and here I am on my honeymoon at 255 lbs looking my very worst:
(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/2006_Ahmed_Elattar_255lbs_hm.jpg)

One year before then in 2005 I was 265 lbs and was at my strongest (Squatting 465 for 4 reps, Deadlifting 500 for 1 rep, and bench 350 lbs for 1 rep - yes I know you getbiggers are stronger than me, but I was happy for myself), here are two pictures from those days:
(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/260front.jpg)

(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/2602.jpg)

After I competed in 2004 I bulked up all summer and fall, here is me at 234 lbs:
(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/234.jpg)

Now rewind to 2004...  This is me in Vegas where I competed at 178 lbs:
(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/stat.jpg)

2 weeks before that in 2004, this is me in my best contest shape at 176 lbs!
(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/crabby.jpg)

Rewind some, and this is what I looked like at my first contest in 2003 when I competed at 172 lbs:
(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/sidechestnic.jpg)

Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: SF1900 on January 04, 2013, 09:54:42 PM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/10z4xhl.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: BIG ACH on January 04, 2013, 09:56:16 PM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/10z4xhl.jpg)

Thats me on a play date with Wong Hong!  Kofo was nice enough to snap a picture of us two love birds  ;D
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 04, 2013, 09:59:48 PM
It's good that you're going to diet down

I believe unless your a Bber competing
One should be big and cut full round always... Should never get out of condition
Good luck man
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: BIG ACH on January 04, 2013, 10:04:50 PM

I updated my previous post showing my weight fluctuations in chronological order!

It's good that you're going to diet down

I believe unless your a Bber competing
One should be big and cut full round always... Should never get out of condition
Good luck man

Thanks bro!
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 04, 2013, 10:24:48 PM
You have a good natural shape look exceptional when in shape
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: cephissus on January 04, 2013, 10:36:07 PM
That is more then enough to make your morbidly obese. You are delusional.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/Lurmonious/Photo47.jpg)

this is me after months of strict 5000+ calories daily... clearly, you're wrong.
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: Jon Harridan on January 04, 2013, 10:46:49 PM
Big Ach looking huge here.
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: BIG ACH on January 04, 2013, 10:50:46 PM
Big Ach looking huge here.

Thanks man!  My profile picture  lol. I was 220 there
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: Jon Harridan on January 04, 2013, 11:07:11 PM
Big Ach, what do you think of these options below? Are you interested in trying them out to get to the next level?

http://www.frankzane.com/zane_experience_san_diego.htm

http://www.robbyrobinson.net/master-class.php
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: arce1988 on January 04, 2013, 11:43:50 PM
  Look female when fat
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: dj181 on January 04, 2013, 11:50:27 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/Lurmonious/Photo47.jpg)

this is me after months of strict 5000+ calories daily... clearly, you're wrong.

what's yours stats there stud?

height, weight, waist, and arm measurements?
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: ChopperRider on January 04, 2013, 11:51:02 PM
  Look female when fat

Way too much lower pec, he gets the saggy boob look once he starts getting fat.

Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: cephissus on January 05, 2013, 01:07:09 AM
what's yours stats there stud?

height, weight, waist, and arm measurements?

6'3"
255-260lbs
waist: 40-42" :D :D :D
arms: 17 1/4" or 17 1/2" (forget)
thighs: 27.5"
calves: 17"
chest: 50" (roughly, forget a bit)

always had awful arms, unlike master ach
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: Jovo on January 05, 2013, 02:41:07 AM
what tpe of diet are you going to  use to cut down with mate ?
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: WOOO on January 05, 2013, 11:46:10 AM
6'3"
255-260lbs
waist: 40-42" :D :D :D
arms: 17 1/4" or 17 1/2" (forget)
thighs: 27.5"
calves: 17"
chest: 50" (roughly, forget a bit)

always had awful arms, unlike master ach


no kidding on your arms...

you need to hit them with VOLUME son... light weight and volume
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 03:13:31 PM
ach what was ur offseason weight before those contest pics,,,heavy as u are your legs had no size/thickness ,,,or did u diet off too much u said 158 top shape,,,
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: cephissus on January 05, 2013, 04:55:50 PM

no kidding on your arms...

you need to hit them with VOLUME son... light weight and volume

trust me bro, i've tried EVERYTHING under the sun... at the end of the day, you're either born with it, or you're not.
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: Gargamel on January 06, 2013, 10:41:42 AM
Ach is the proof that bulking is useless for naturals. He dirty bulks to 250 and almost 19 inch arms and then cuts down to 180 and 16 inch arms. But I know naturals who are 180-190 pounds and 16 inch arms all year. Why eat so much food? seems pretty idiotic to me.
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: anabolichalo on January 06, 2013, 11:04:47 AM
Ach is the proof that bulking is useless for naturals. He dirty bulks to 250 and almost 19 inch arms and then cuts down to 180 and 16 inch arms. But I know naturals who are 180-190 pounds and 16 inch arms all year. Why eat so much food? seems pretty idiotic to me.
i think he just likes eating
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: BIG ACH on January 06, 2013, 11:22:08 AM
ach what was ur offseason weight before those contest pics,,,heavy as u are your legs had no size/thickness ,,,or did u diet off too much u said 158 top shape,,,

Hey!  Before I started competing I weighed about 220 lbs and was about the same conditioning I'm in now.  My legs have never been my strong point, even in the off-season, although I don't think one would look at them right now and go oh wow your legs are tiny... but I don't think they are anything impressive either, and they definitely lose even more size when I compete, so I just try to rely on cuts at that point! (My Calves TRULY suck though)

(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/510thighs.jpg)

I won this class btw at 176 lbs! (I'm in the center)
(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/legsopen.jpg)

158 is DEFINITELY over dieting for me!  I wanted to come in at 170-175 that year (as I usually do) but I just kinda fucked up, kept going, and took it a bit too far!

Ach is the proof that bulking is useless for naturals. He dirty bulks to 250 and almost 19 inch arms and then cuts down to 180 and 16 inch arms. But I know naturals who are 180-190 pounds and 16 inch arms all year. Why eat so much food? seems pretty idiotic to me.

You're absolutely right!!  I've done it a million times and I know 100% that bulking (especially the disgusting "bulking" that I do) adds no benefit when it comes down to competing.  But I've said this time and time again... Bodybuilding for me has never really been about competing.... its been about trying to get as big as I possibly can...  I have some sort of mental complex and hate feeling "small" and "light" add in the fact that I also have no inhibitions regarding how much I love to fucking eat!!!!  Although believe it or not, I really don't eat that bad all the time (I do eat bad... but its not every single day), I just eat a lot a whole whole lot!

6'3"
255-260lbs
waist: 40-42" :D :D :D
arms: 17 1/4" or 17 1/2" (forget)
thighs: 27.5"
calves: 17"
chest: 50" (roughly, forget a bit)

always had awful arms, unlike master ach


Cephissus - your arms aren't bad dude... they just aren't as over-powered as your torso (17" 1/2 at that sort of conditioning is not bad).... I'm surprised you say your chest is only 50" - looks bigger than that!  I'm not surprised you say that you can hold that sort of conditioning while eating 5000 cals.... you have a big frame at 6'2 260 lbs....  

You look good man!  Large and in charge!  Mad props!   Your posing kinda sucks though but I'm guessing you don't compete so who fucking cares lol ;D
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: Jon Harridan on January 06, 2013, 11:39:21 AM
Big Ach, are you considering hiring Aliamini for your drug routine?
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2013, 11:39:56 AM
Hey!  Before I started competing I weighed about 220 lbs and was about the same conditioning I'm in now.  My legs have never been my strong point, even in the off-season, although I don't think one would look at them right now and go oh wow your legs are tiny... but I don't think they are anything impressive either, and they definitely lose even more size when I compete, so I just try to rely on cuts at that point! (My Calves TRULY suck though)

(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/510thighs.jpg)

I won this class btw at 176 lbs! (I'm in the center)
(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/legsopen.jpg)

158 is DEFINITELY over dieting for me!  I wanted to come in at 170-175 that year (as I usually do) but I just kinda fucked up, kept going, and took it a bit too far!

You're absolutely right!!  I've done it a million times and I know 100% that bulking (especially the disgusting "bulking" that I do) adds no benefit when it comes down to competing.  But I've said this time and time again... Bodybuilding for me has never really been about competing.... its been about trying to get as big as I possibly can...  I have some sort of mental complex and hate feeling "small" and "light" add in the fact that I also have no inhibitions regarding how much I love to fucking eat!!!!  Although believe it or not, I really don't eat that bad all the time (I do eat bad... but its not every single day), I just eat a lot a whole whole lot!
 

Cephissus - your arms aren't bad dude... they just aren't as over-powered as your torso (17" 1/2 at that sort of conditioning is not bad).... I'm surprised you say your chest is only 50" - looks bigger than that!  I'm not surprised you say that you can hold that sort of conditioning while eating 5000 cals.... you have a big frame at 6'2 260 lbs....  

You look good man!  Large and in charge!  Mad props!   Your posing kinda sucks though but I'm guessing you don't compete so who fucking cares lol ;D
thats a good pic,,legs were ripped ..long muscles appearance wise just need thickness,,if u do not compete again just train them to be big size wise with some seperation not bone dry but in shape,
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: BIG ACH on January 06, 2013, 11:52:03 AM
thats a good pic,,legs were ripped ..long muscles appearance wise just need thickness,,if u do not compete again just train them to be big size wise with some seperation not bone dry but in shape,

Thanks man!  That was my best showing!


Big Ach, are you considering hiring Aliamini for your drug routine?

I spoke with Aliamini once asking if he works with naturals... and he said he did...  But honestly I really can't justify in my head hiring someone to help with contest prep, I feel like I know enough now to be able to do it on my own.

I was lucky, as I got ready with my second show, I was good friends with a prep coach, (Sean Sullivan) who taught me a lot and basically held my hand the entire way, never asking for a cent in return.  Prep coaches can be great.... and do offer more insight, but I would rather see my money invested elsewhere to be honest, its just not cheap!


This is a picture Sean Sullivan (I owe this guy a whole lot!!)  He even invited me 4 weeks out from a show to come and stay with him and his wife at his house for a week and helped me with training, and dieting etc.  Was really one of the best weeks of my life!  He has been competing since 1982, and the reason he got into it is because when he was a  young kid and down on his luck, he met Arnold Schwarzenegger and Arnold felt sorry for him and gave him two free tickets to a show (either the Universe or the Olympia - not sure), and he was hooked ever since!  Dude's a great guy, Military background, police officer, head of his SWAT unit on the force, and really one of the best, nicest all around guys I ever met in bodybuilding!

(http://www.muscleandstrength.com/sites/default/files/field/athlete-image/interview/sean-sullivan-250.jpg)

(http://bodybuildingsenior.com/bbs/images/Friends/sully1.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: hipolito mejia on January 06, 2013, 11:57:34 AM
Great frame for holding a lot of muscles.  Looks like you're a heavy beer drinker thought.... How often what and how much alcohol you consume ?
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: BIG ACH on January 06, 2013, 11:58:28 AM
Great frame for holding a lot of muscles.  Looks like you're a heavy beer drinker thought.... How often what and how much alcohol you consume ?

I don't drink at all!  Just never got into it! Never been drunk in my life!

This is my weakness!

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.slashfood.com/media/2010/08/dominos-cheese-pizza-590.jpg)


Oh and Coco! (Ice-T's wife) not the drink lollll

(http://www.inflexwetrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/coco-thong-thursday1.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 06, 2013, 12:07:39 PM
I don't drink at all!  Just never got into it! Never been drunk in my life!

This is my weakness!

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.slashfood.com/media/2010/08/dominos-cheese-pizza-590.jpg)


Oh and Coco! (Ice-T's wife) not the drink lollll

(http://www.inflexwetrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/coco-thong-thursday1.jpg)

Good weaknesses to have Achmertimus!
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: BIG ACH on January 06, 2013, 12:10:14 PM
Good weaknesses to have Achmertimus!

I was telling my wife though... Coco pissed me off because (allegedly) she cheated on ice!!! Wtf is that shit... Married to one of the greatest rappers ever, accomplished TV actor, And you go on do that shit!  Whack!
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: WOOO on January 06, 2013, 12:10:52 PM
I don't drink at all!  Just never got into it! Never been drunk in my life!

This is my weakness!

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.slashfood.com/media/2010/08/dominos-cheese-pizza-590.jpg)


Oh and Coco! (Ice-T's wife) not the drink lollll

(http://www.inflexwetrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/coco-thong-thursday1.jpg)




weed and liquor and women > pizza
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: anabolichalo on January 06, 2013, 12:11:14 PM
thigh mass is over rated
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: BIG ACH on January 06, 2013, 12:12:53 PM



weed and liquor and women > pizza

I'm not gonna lie, if I had a choice between Coco And the pizza.... my fat ass would probably go for The pizza! Lol
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 06, 2013, 12:13:19 PM
I was telling my wife though... Coco pissed me off because (allegedly) she cheated on ice!!! Wtf is that shit... Married to one of the greatest rappers ever, accomplished TV actor, And you go on do that shit!  Whack!

Then again, if she cheated on Ice with you instead Achmersule Poirot, you would have complained less!

But yes, it was a nefarious deed to cheat on the legendary Ice-T, goes to show her true personality, not loyal in the slightest
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: arce1988 on January 06, 2013, 01:00:46 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RcXHcgGJGQo/UM9eInKyv-I/AAAAAAAAnOw/BuTOAR4lbEI/s1600/ap%2B9%2Band%2Bcoco.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: Jon Harridan on January 06, 2013, 01:04:52 PM
I'm not gonna lie, if I had a choice between Coco And the pizza.... my fat ass would probably go for The pizza! Lol

How do you rate her physique?

Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: snx on January 06, 2013, 03:17:21 PM
Big Ach - you look like a champ between 180-190.

That's the best bodyweight for you to break out the crazy Big Ach lingerie shirts again. Which you should unashamedly do. And then snap pics and post them up here. So we can offer you supportive comments on them!

 ;D
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: WOOO on January 06, 2013, 03:18:49 PM
How do you rate her physique?




way too skinny but would hit before eating pizza...
Title: Re: Bulking up as a natural...
Post by: BIG ACH on January 06, 2013, 06:34:39 PM
How do you rate her physique?



Jodi looks fine.  I hear she is a nice girl too.... 




But I wouldn't ever want McFarland's sloppy seconds  ;D