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Title: Disgusting.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 11, 2013, 04:13:48 PM
“The good thing about Newtown is, it was so horrific that I think it galvanized Americans to a point where the intensity on our side is going to match the intensity on their side,” said the former mayor, referring to the current debate between gun control advocates and supporters of the Second Amendment.

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Title: Re: Disgusting.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 11, 2013, 04:14:26 PM
Ed rendell is a real pos. 


Title: Re: Disgusting.
Post by: WOOO on January 11, 2013, 04:19:34 PM
“The good thing about Newtown is, it was so horrific that I think it galvanized Americans to a point where the intensity on our side is going to match the intensity on their side,” said the former mayor, referring to the current debate between gun control advocates and supporters of the Second Amendment.

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i'm disgusted by anyone claiming that anything good happened that day... regardless of which side there on...

it was a terrible (insufficient word) day for 26 families


Title: Re: Disgusting.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 12, 2013, 04:56:18 AM
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Ed Schultz: "We've Never Had a Civilian Stop a Shooting"
Townhall.com ^ | January 11, 2013 | Leah Barkoukis
Posted on January 12, 2013 4:35:19 AM EST by Kaslin

Yeah, he really said this:

NBC's Ed Schultz Lies About Civilians Disarming Mass Shooters

Where did he get this idea? Jack Coleman over at NewsBusters thinks the claim originated from a Mother Jones article written in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting, but Schultz doesn’t source the statement. The Mother Jones report states: “In the wake of the slaughters this summer at a Colorado movie theater and a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, we set out to track mass shootings in the United States over the last 30 years. We identified and analyzed 62 of them, and one striking pattern is this: In not a single case was the killing stopped by a civilian using a gun.” (According to the criteria used in their research, a mass shooting is when the "shooter took the lives of at least four people.")

When armed civilians or off-duty police officers are present in active shooter scenarios they respond quickly—usually preventing the situation from becoming a mass shooting. For example, in 2007, former police officer Jeanne Assam volunteered to work security at her church in Colorado and prevented a mass shooting:

Jeanne Assam Saves The Day

There was also the recent incident of a gunman opening fire at the Mayan Palace Theatre in San Antonio just days after the Connecticut shooting. An off-duty cop stopped the gunman.

Gunman Shoot Gun at San Antonio MovieTheater Mayan Palace Theatre

Of course, there are other examples of “civilians” preventing mass shootings. Mark Hemingway over at The Weekly Standard provides more examples:

-- Winnemuccas, Nev., 2008: Ernesto Villagomez opens fire in a crowded restaurant; concealed carry permit-holder shoots him dead. Total dead: Two. (I'm excluding the shooters' deaths in these examples.)

-- Appalachian School of Law, 2002: Crazed immigrant shoots the dean and a professor, then begins shooting students; as he goes for more ammunition, two armed students point their guns at him, allowing a third to tackle him. Total dead: Three.

-- Santee, Calif. 2001: Student begins shooting his classmates -- as well as the "trained campus supervisor"; an off-duty cop who happened to be bringing his daughter to school that day points his gun at the shooter, holding him until more police arrive. Total dead: Two.

-- Pearl High School, Mississippi, 1997: After shooting several people at his high school, student heads for the junior high school; assistant principal Joel Myrick retrieves a .45 pistol from his car and points it at the gunman's head, ending the murder spree. Total dead: Two.

-- Edinboro, Pa., 1998: A student shoots up a junior high school dance being held at a restaurant; restaurant owner pulls out his shotgun and stops the gunman. Total dead: One.


Title: Re: Disgusting.
Post by: Roger Bacon on January 12, 2013, 06:51:07 AM
Police Officers are the only people that can be trained to use a gun.  It's something about their DNA or something.

Civilians can't, no one knows exactly why.


Title: Re: Disgusting.
Post by: whork on January 12, 2013, 07:00:34 AM
Police Officers are the only people that can be trained to use a gun.  It's something about their DNA or something.

Civilians can't, no one knows exactly why.

Yeah just look at the bright cops in the Police State thread.


Title: Re: Disgusting.
Post by: Roger Bacon on January 12, 2013, 07:09:31 AM
Yeah just look at the bright cops in the Police State thread.

I'm being sarcastic, it doesn't make sense on any level to think armed civilians (who may actually have better training) aren't as capable as law enforcement.


Title: Re: Disgusting.
Post by: whork on January 12, 2013, 07:30:39 AM
I'm being sarcastic, it doesn't make sense on any level to think armed civilians (who may actually have better training) aren't as capable as law enforcement.

I know you were sarcastic as was I.

Looking at the cops from the Police State thread a lot of the police should not be carrying a gun.


Title: Re: Disgusting.
Post by: Roger Bacon on January 12, 2013, 01:26:39 PM
I know you were sarcastic as was I.

Looking at the cops from the Police State thread a lot of the police should not be carrying a gun.

YES!


Title: Re: Disgusting.
Post by: Montague on January 12, 2013, 03:33:40 PM
“The good thing about Newtown is, it was so horrific...


How tactful and appropriate.


Title: Re: Disgusting.
Post by: Skip8282 on January 13, 2013, 04:00:33 PM
Rendell has always been anti-gun.  He put the squash on a bill in PA that would have made things easier.  Back then (not sure about today), you were required to run and hide in a room during a burgluray and could only shoot the people if you had no means of escape in your own home.

As far as I'm concerned, the moment someone is through the door/window...they should be fair game.