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Fast forward to just before 8:30 and see the "dad" who lost a kid laugh before he thinks the camera starts rolling and then gets ready to start play acting his sorrow. Amazing! Please anyone explain this shit!!!
There are many more gems in this video. This is a total fraud committed to pass gun laws. The perpetrators need to hang!
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I already knew. There are many of these false flags. They are played out with "Crisis Actors" from Homeland Security.
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We are dealing with sick people here that are so full of confidence they can do whatever they want they are not even hiding their sloppy mistakes anymore.
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Don't make me angry Che. Pull your head out of your ass and wake the fuck up. CRITICALLY THINK.
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Not sure what you're saying. Either the news is part of a propaganda machine or they're getting the truth out to the public. You want me to believe what the media says or not believe it? Please advise.
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Don't make me angry Che. Pull your head out of your ass and wake the fuck up. CRITICALLY THINK.
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Not sure what you're saying. Either the news is part of a propaganda machine or they're getting the truth out to the public. You want me to believe what the media says or not believe it? Please advise.
That is irrelevant for now. Stay on point. What is relevant is the behaviors of these people and the obvious inconsistency.
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Time to get a life Wiggs.
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Don't make me angry Che. Pull your head out of your ass and wake the fuck up. CRITICALLY THINK.
You sound the same here as you did about the Mayan Calendar. When are you going to wake the frakk up you imbecile. Your problem is that you have never done any form of manual labor in your life.
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That is irrelevant for now. Stay on point. What is relevant is the behaviors of these people and the obvious inconsistency.
Yes, that is the issue. I want someone to please explain Parker's (not Getbig guy, the "parent") behavior at 8:30
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You sound the same here as you did about the Mayan Calendar. When are you going to wake the frakk up you imbecile. Your problem is that you have never done any form of manual labor in your life.
I leave that to the low IQ peasants. I won't be bothered with pointless manual labor. This has nothing to do with Mayan Calender. You and your pathetic merry band of c ocksuckers will continue to use this weak correlation to gain ground in an argument and it wont work. Instead attacking me, attack what you see. The evidence. You are anything but "Not Sure" you more of a Fredo.
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(http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/crisis-actors1.jpg)
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if eugenics was the law of the land, would we have Willage Iggiots around?
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if eugenics was the law of the land, would we have Willage Iggiots around?
Shouldn't you be admiring black cock somewhere or do you get Sundays off?
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so which is it, they couldn't do this or they wouldn't?
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Notice how everyone against it, just speaks against it but provides ZERO evidence in support of their position. Just a " ::) " or an insult. Way to prove your points you fucking dinga-lings.
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Notice how everyone against it, just speaks against it but provides ZERO evidence in support of their position. Just a " ::) " or an insult. Way to prove your points you fucking dinga-lings.
They're not inarticulate - they just don't speak retard.
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They're not inarticulate - they just don't speak retard.
Way to rationalize your stupidity. Congratulations.
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I leave that to the low IQ peasants. I won't be bothered with pointless manual labor. This has nothing to do with Mayan Calender. You and your pathetic merry band of c ocksuckers will continue to use this weak correlation to gain ground in an argument and it wont work. Instead attacking me, attack what you see. The evidence. You are anything but "Not Sure" you more of a Fredo.
Technology has its benefits. The spread of information has been one of the most important benefits of advancing technology however. it also spreads misinformation and idiots such as yourself fall for it every time. You are in the same crowd as Justin Beiber fans who cry when they found out their hero has died in a car wreck. Technology controls you and your thoughts to the point where it is just damn pathetic. You are so indecisive that you jump from one band wagon to the next and you are proven wrong everytime and look like a damn fool. What will be next? I have watched your character devolve over the years on this forum to a more pathetic version then the previous.
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Technology has its benefits. The spread of information has been one of the most important benefits of advancing technology however; it also spreads misinformation and idiots such as yourself fall for it every time. You are in the same crowd as Justin Beiber fans who cry when they found out their hero has died in a car wreck. Technology controls you and your thoughts to the point where it is just damn pathetic. You are so indecisive that you jump from one band wagon to the next and you are proven wrong everytime and look like a damn fool. What will be next? I have watched your character devolve over the years on this forum to a more pathetic version then the previous.
Anything else Walter Cronkite? Are you ready to address the evidence? Cause I'm still waiting on that.
You are an nameless, faceless, female or male spouting off useless drivel. Technology has it's benefits - No shit. Misinformation is spread -no shit. Technology controls you and your thoughts to the point where it is damn pathetic. Really? I'd like to hear some examples. Indecisive? Really? What am I indecisive about? If anything, I'm very decisive. Thanks for being fan. I need more people like you, you keep me going whoever and whatever you are. Stay tuned.
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Anything else Walter Cronkite? Are you ready to address the evidence? Cause I'm still waiting on that.
You are an nameless, faceless, female or male spouting off useless drivel. Technology has it's benefits - No shit. Misinformation is spread -no shit. Technology controls you and your thoughts to the point where it is damn pathetic. Really? I'd like to hear some examples. Indecisive? Really? What am I indecisive about? If anything, I'm very decisive. Thanks for being fan. I need more people like you, you keep me going whoever and whatever you are. Stay tuned.
You are decisive. That is true. Decisive on being a damn fool.
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You are decisive. That is true. Decisive on being a damn fool.
So now that we proved on thing you either lied or were stupid on what else can we dig and find? See how that works? You're an idiot. You're dismissed. No longer worth me acknowledging. Enjoy my posts Wiggs fanatic.
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Way to rationalize your stupidity. Congratulations.
I wasn't rationalizing anything, jackass. i was just letting you know why the appropriate response to you is ::)
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So now that we proved on thing you either lied or were stupid on what else can we dig and find? See how that works? You're an idiot. You're dismissed. No longer worth me acknowledging. Enjoy my posts Wiggs fanatic.
Nothing left to do but let the idiots jump from bandwagon to bandwagon. I need to do nothing more then let you post to reveal how dumb you are. Your POF thread shows your character as the filth you are.
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I wasn't rationalizing anything, jackass. i was just letting you know why the appropriate response to you is ::)
Relax, have a BBC.
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Relax, have a BBC.
Is that your code word for seegar? Is that why you smoke them?
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I did not think you could pack this much stupid into one thread
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Do you guys realize that you are suggesting the children's parents were in on it. This is not possible at all, so the parents let their children die? or the parents are fake parents to kids acting as such? how in the world are you justifing this scenario when everyone around that schools knows each other and everybody sees each other daily, so not one person has come forward to say that they don't recognize one of the parents, wow, you guys are seriously out to lunch, coooccocococcocococo.
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I did not think you could pack this much stupid into one thread
With wiggs posting you better believe it.
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Do you guys realize that you are suggesting the children's parents were in on it. This is not possible at all, so the parents let their children die? or the parents are fake parents to kids acting as such? how in the world are you justifing this scenario when everyone around that schools knows each other and everybody sees each other daily, so not one person has come forward to say that they don't recognize one of the parents, wow, you guys are seriously out to lunch, coooccocococcocococo.
Forget it these guys life are do fucking empty it's beyond repair
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Forget it these guys life are do fucking empty it's beyond repair
Have you been drinking lately? ???
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Have you been drinking lately? ???
Nope, dumb people annoy me
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(http://theaxemen.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/ayecarumbaoj3.jpg)
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Do you guys realize that you are suggesting the children's parents were in on it. This is not possible at all, so the parents let their children die? or the parents are fake parents to kids acting as such? how in the world are you justifing this scenario when everyone around that schools knows each other and everybody sees each other daily, so not one person has come forward to say that they don't recognize one of the parents, wow, you guys are seriously out to lunch, coooccocococcocococo.
There is no town of Sandy Hook, the whole thing is made up........oh, wait, i thought there is more than one gunman and it is real, oh wait, the kids aren't really dead,and they are stupid enough to let them take publicity photos with the president oh wait..every mass shooting is fake, the government has invented whole towns and communities that don't exist in seven different towns and nobody has been able to say a thing about it even on the internet.
Fucking idiots. some morons need to think they know something everyone else doesn't know.
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Allow me to allow my gay friend to retort. :D
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/11/kth-exposing-newtown-conspiracy-theory/?hpt=ac_mid
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There is no town of Sandy Hook, the whole thing is made up........oh, wait, i thought there is more than one gunman and it is real, oh wait, the kids aren't really dead,and they are stupid enough to let them take publicity photos with the president oh wait..every mass shooting is fake, the government has invented whole towns and communities that don't exist in seven different towns and nobody has been able to say a thing about it even on the internet.
Fucking idiots. some morons need to think they know something everyone else doesn't know.
lmao that was funny ;D
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bro this is a great post, now you see how our government uses crisis actors and other methods to fool the american people and use mk ultra and put it on the television..........grea t post bro glad to see you are awaking.
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WITF was he laughing and joking?
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WITF was he laughing and joking?
Really! Regardless of how "nervous" he was I don't think that anyone could or should be able to talk like that the day after their daughter was shot full of holes.
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Do you guys realize that you are suggesting the children's parents were in on it. This is not possible at all, so the parents let their children die? or the parents are fake parents to kids acting as such? how in the world are you justifing this scenario when everyone around that schools knows each other and everybody sees each other daily, so not one person has come forward to say that they don't recognize one of the parents, wow, you guys are seriously out to lunch, coooccocococcocococo.
But how do you know it was real? Look, I don't know all the facts, I am just saying how do we know they were really killed? I just turned on the TV or watched a media web site and this is what I was told.
To give you an idea of how deception may occur, watch the latest Bourne movie - The Bourne Legacy - with Jeremy Renner. I know it is fiction but it manages to portray how a group of people and agencies can act together to commit a conspiracy. For example, in Manila the police are involved in chasing Bourne but they don't know why - they just received their orders.
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Maybe the shooting was real but then the government saw an opportunity. So what they could have done is make up just one or two fake victims and get actors to play the part of parents to hit it home and get maximum effect. The real parents wouldn't go on tv so they pay a couple of actors and get maximum drama to maximise public outrage and gun banning emotion.
What about the pedo old geezer ? Fuckin whackjob.
And what about the interview with the school nurse talking about the shooters mother, saying she was a great teacher and her son was fine. Now it turn out she was never a teacher and the shooter was unknown at the school. So what the fuck was the school nurse talking about?
The story about her being a teacher at the school and taking the boy target shooting might be to make everything think , "well if a fine upstanding responsible teacher gets her face blown off with her own assault rifle then maybe we need to take them away from private individuals".
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WITF was he laughing and joking?
Maybe Arce1988 doesn't even exist ,he's an actor that get paid to troll to take away our freedom of speech .
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people who walk around all day saying, this guy is a shill, Illuminati, billderberg, false flag, fema camps, central bankers etc should be institutionalized indefinitely (obviously I am a shill, bilderberg illuminati eliteist or else why would I say this).
stop the BS already, you are annoying everyone around you.
I needed to cut communications with a childhood friend as he wouldnt shut the fuck up about this crap, everything that happened was either bilderberg, shill, Illuminati, false flag etc,
last time I spoke to him he was bitching how a company charged his credit card twice, I told him its a false flag organized by the central banks in order to manipulate currency and to get him ready for a fema camp, the guy responded by telling me "holy shit, you finally see the truth", I just hung up on that fucker and never spoke to him again, his wife left him too, couldn't deal with the non stop chat about conspiracies etc. Sad there are millions of people in the USA that are just like him, god help them.
Anyway, gotta run to a meeting
with the bilderbergs hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
fucking psychos
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Maybe Arce1988 doesn't even exist ,he's an actor that get paid to troll to take away our freedom of speech .
Thats a good point. Getbig as a massive influential website which is undoubtably monitered by the illuminati so a lot of the members here are probably planted to quell out ideas incase word gets out to the worldwide media that the elite of getbig are starting to wake up.
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Maybe the shooting was real but then the government saw an opportunity. So what they could have done is make up just one or two fake victims and get actors to play the part of parents to hit it home and get maximum effect. The real parents wouldn't go on tv so they pay a couple of actors and get maximum drama to maximise public outrage and gun banning emotion.
What about the pedo old geezer ? Fuckin whackjob.
And what about the interview with the school nurse talking about the shooters mother, saying she was a great teacher and her son was fine. Now it turn out she was never a teacher and the shooter was unknown at the school. So what the fuck was the school nurse talking about?
The story about her being a teacher at the school and taking the boy target shooting might be to make everything think , "well if a fine upstanding responsible teacher gets her face blown off with her own assault rifle then maybe we need to take them away from private individuals".
I agree .
Maybe Ron Avidan and Getbig are not real ,we are all actors that get paid by the government to take down Special Ed's Muscleweek site.
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people who walk around all day saying, this guy is a shill, Illuminati, billderberg, false flag, fema camps, central bankers etc should be institutionalized indefinitely (obviously I am a shill, bilderberg illuminati eliteist or else why would I say this).
stop the BS already, you are annoying everyone around you.
I needed to cut communications with a childhood friend as he wouldnt shut the fuck up about this crap, everything that happened was either bilderberg, shill, Illuminati, false flag etc,
last time I spoke to him he was bitching how a company charged his credit card twice, I told him its a false flag organized by the central banks in order to manipulate currency and to get him ready for a fema camp, the guy responded by telling me "holy shit, you finally see the truth", I just hung up on that fucker and never spoke to him again, his wife left him too, couldn't deal with the non stop chat about conspiracies etc. Sad there are millions of people in the USA that are just like him, god help them.
Anyway, gotta run to a meeting
with the bilderbergs hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
fucking psychos
wow, dont know whos scarier you or the hardcore conspirators lol
keep eating it up
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Leave me out of it, Che.
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wow, dont know whos scarier you or the hardcore conspirators lol
keep eating it up
love that pic hahahaaa
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Maybe Onlymen's still alive , Stuntmovie and the government faked his death to screw Travisma out of more money .
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So.. What you goofs are saying is that the whole town of sandy hook is in on it? You are actually saying that the whole population of sandy hook has been prepped and trained to act and behave this way for a government agenda..? And not one of them is going to talk and blow the whole ruse? Lord.. ::)
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Maybe the shooting was real but then the government saw an opportunity. So what they could have done is make up just one or two fake victims and get actors to play the part of parents to hit it home and get maximum effect. The real parents wouldn't go on tv so they pay a couple of actors and get maximum drama to maximise public outrage and gun banning emotion.
What about the pedo old geezer ? Fuckin whackjob.
And what about the interview with the school nurse talking about the shooters mother, saying she was a great teacher and her son was fine. Now it turn out she was never a teacher and the shooter was unknown at the school. So what the fuck was the school nurse talking about?
The story about her being a teacher at the school and taking the boy target shooting might be to make everything think , "well if a fine upstanding responsible teacher gets her face blown off with her own assault rifle then maybe we need to take them away from private individuals".
this is more likely. anybody saying the entire town was in on it has some screws loose lol.
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Gun control propaganda just isn't gun control propaganda without young white children getting killed en masse.......because the media and the American people really don't give a damn for the little black kids getting shot daily in our inner cities. They say they do, but they don't.
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So where are all these kids hiding out? Pakistan?
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Those damn kids! If this is the sort of stunts kids these days pull then no wonder people want to shoot them and kindergarten kids at that!!! I think we should start looking in Vegas for these kids and then we'll give them what they deserve for duping us all like that. And how about our fucking government playing along with it and those cops I knew all those assholes would be in on it. It's the jews though really owning all the media and needing a big news story this is all set up by the jews in Hollywood for a movie being released soon (that was started six months ago!) starring Tom Cruise because his bankability is sliding and this will get him back on top. Damn those reptilian, illuminati kids I'll never watch Kid Detective again and think it's all made up.
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Let me see if i can wrap my head around this.
There is a nefarious secret society of elites that is planning a civil war in this country, so there is anarchy from coast to coast, and instead of living on their palatial estates and being the ruling class of the world's most powerful country... they all have to live underground in secret cities, all of their workers for their massive corporations are now homeless savages killing each other for food, Society is destroyed, their corporations have been burned to the ground and their money is now worthless. Did i miss anything?
"hey guys, we rule the most powerful country on earth, let's blow it all to hell and go live underground for ten years"
I ask the simple question...why?
I'm not naive, and i certainly don't think everything is as it would appear, some shady shit goes down...but like anything else..there are always two sides to the story and the truth is always somewhere in the middle.
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Nope you pretty much nailed it there Groink. I can't believe you would as why! Isn't it obvious? Think about it for a little while and you will see that doing verything you said makes perfect sense!
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Sheep (USA public) were made to be shorn.
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Nope you pretty much nailed it there Groink. I can't believe you would as why! Isn't it obvious? Think about it for a little while and you will see that doing verything you said makes perfect sense!
What does?
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Don't forget the local newspaper interviewed the principal of the school AFTER the massacre.
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I've watched a few videos of some of the parents being interviewed at the scene. Are these people fucking retarded? None of them are acting like you would think when you just found out the 20 kids had been slaughtered. I'm not into conspiracies but something about this whole thing is off. Even watching it live the day it happened I kept thinking things didn't look right. No ambulances like you would think you would see. There should have been many on the scene with their sirens going off. There were supposedly 600 children in that school and that early on you just assume that there are many injured along with the dead. Maybe I'm wrong but it all looked off to me.
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I've watched a few videos of some of the parents being interviewed at the scene. Are these people fucking retarded? None of them are acting like you would think when you just found out the 20 kids had been slaughtered. I'm not into conspiracies but something about this whole thing is off. Even watching it live the day it happened I kept thinking things didn't look right. No ambulances like you would think you would see. There should have been many on the scene with their sirens going off. There were supposedly 600 children in that school and that early on you just assume that there are many injured along with the dead. Maybe I'm wrong but it all looked off to me.
i thought the same thing.. A girl in a second grade classroom next to them heard no gun shots even though hundred were fired and the interviewer was like wtf on CNN and cut her off.. There's so much stuff out there to prove this is a set up, I am sorry for the people who blindly accept it happened
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Notsure showing that he's 100% sure about his love for Wigg's BBC in this thread
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That scene where the guy is laughing, then sees he is going on camera and hyperventilates and gets a whole new expression is crazy - it must be how actors do it.
And what about those memorial pages on facebook created before it happened, and facebook pulled them? I wonder if that reddit guy who "suicided" heard the inside story from his other internet guru connections?
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I already knew. There are many of these false flags. They are played out with "Crisis Actors" from Homeland Security.
Agreed, getting tired of these NRA organised False Flags all just to boost Gun Sales.
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Some real smart people here on GB.....
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Maybe I'm wrong.
Not Maybe, You're wrong. Just because it doesn't conform to your bias doesn't mean many children weren't brutally murdered.
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Anyone care to throw the Manchurian Candidate theory out there?
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Anyone care to throw the Manchurian Candidate theory out there?
;D
You can only get this smart by watching internet videos.
It's better than Harvard.
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You can only get this smart by watching internet videos.
It's better than Harvard.
Yep.
and the best thing about them is it's irrefutable, I mean you put this type of evidence into any courtroom and it's an open and shut case.
a guy has nervous laughter before being interviewed....obviously an actor who's kids were fake and not killed..i think there is a statute about that.
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Yep.
and the best thing about them is it's irrefutable, I mean you put this type of evidence into any courtroom and it's an open and shut case.
a guy has nervous laughter before being interviewed....obviously an actor who's kids were fake and not killed..i think there is a statute about that.
yep, nothing strange about that at all ::)
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Conspiracy of Peace
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Why do people think the gov needs these things to happen to actually do something? they have all the power in the world to change laws as they want. To declare war whenever they want. "They" don't need to setup these things.
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WOW fucking crazy video,,, Its funny how one mans research is shrugged off, yet people do no research of their own and simply follow the media and governments story like sheep
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why did the fat lady with the jew son say her son was killed by an Ar-15
if video shows the police taking out the AR-15 of of the trunk of the car ??? ???
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quadzilla chartering yet another bus to Potatotown.
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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/83021131#vbvHDJjF1lwL2jfW.01
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If these conspiracy theorists are actually genuine and soem of the people in this thread believe them, then I'm totally embarassed as a human being, 99.9% of the "conspiracy's" are propagated by total nutjobs and even the most cursory investigation will reveal them to be so. Why don't some of you non believers rock on down to Sandy Hook and conduct your own little investigation and let us know what you find out, I'm sure some grieveing parents will be happy to hear your theory that they are liars and their kids aren't dead. Shit, why not rock on into the cemetary and dig some graves up to prove your point.
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Allow me to allow my gay friend to retort. :D
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/11/kth-exposing-newtown-conspiracy-theory/?hpt=ac_mid
its funny how faggott media/ reporters get mad and upset when other people do reporting , if they dont work in major media centers, then their reporting is bullshit and shrugged off, well unless its tmz ::)
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If these conspiracy theorists are actually genuine and soem of the people in this thread believe them, then I'm totally embarassed as a human being, 99.9% of the "conspiracy's" are propagated by total nutjobs and even the most cursory investigation will reveal them to be so. Why don't some of you non believers rock on down to Sandy Hook and conduct your own little investigation and let us know what you find out, I'm sure some grieveing parents will be happy to hear your theory that they are liars and their kids aren't dead. Shit, why not rock on into the cemetary and dig some graves up to prove your point.
yea because the The Tuskegee Experiment conspiracy never happened ::)
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yea because the The Tuskegee Experiment conspiracy never happened ::)
Calling something a consipiracy is the way to discredit something. Someone can be spouting 100% the truth then some jew will call is conspiracy and all of a sudden people discredit it.
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yea because the The Tuskegee Experiment conspiracy never happened ::)
Got anything more recent than 40 years ago where people were murdered in the same fashion as Sandy Hook?? Didn't think so.
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yea because the The Tuskegee Experiment conspiracy never happened ::)
it happened, I'ts pretty much fact that the crack epidemic of the late 80's was manufactured too. drugs for guns, give the drugs the the darkies and keep them down. But these things happened, you guys are saying that they are making this shit up and not one person in the entire town of Sandy hook has been able to say a word about it...i find that very hard to believe.
I've seen hours of footage of grieving parents, memorials, etc. I have not seen on second of tape of someone saying "it never happened" that is a parent, teacher, etc.. what i do see is people connecting some very dubious dots and drawing laughable conclusions.
Factor in that Sandy Hook is a very affluent, educated WASPy town, and i don't see them going along with something like that, you gonna pay off successful millionaires and make them disappear ? these people are smart and plugged in, it would get out.
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Got anything more recent than 40 years ago where people were murdered in the same fashion as Sandy Hook?? Didn't think so.
Sure , 2011 Tucson shooting
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So much shady shit has taken place by the USA... that it makes me vary wary
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Sure , 2011 Tucson shooting
mk ultra victim, cia experiment
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I can see the US government sending in a deranged loser to shoot up a classroom full of kids.
I didn't read much about this online at first because I knew it'd be a circle jerk, but I thought something seemed a bit fishy with the interviews and the news reports. I disregarded the conspiracy theorists at first but something is definitely messed up. There's WAY too much fuckery with this situation.
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U guys think the govt would make up something like that ? Jeez are you guys just unemployed or just retarded ? hahaha get a fucking life. seriously.
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Hurricane Sandy was probably probably a conspiracy.
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Hurricane Sandy was probably probably a conspiracy.
Without Hurrican Sandy, Chris "Fatty McFattie" Christie could not have led a bunch of Romney voters astray by gushing about how wonderful the commie/gun seizer OBama was and thereby caused the commie gun seizer to be reelected. Everybody knows the hierarchy used the Rockefeller weather machine to rustle up that storm for some quick election points, you dumb english teacher.
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I don't believe 90% of the bullshit I hear my friends or people I know say
So why should I believe people I don't know or ever will , makes no fucking sense whatsoever why anyone would trust people they do to know
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I don't believe 90% of the bullshit I hear my friends or people I know say
So why should I believe people I don't know or ever will , makes no fucking sense whatsoever why anyone would trust people they do to know
Because no one would ever lie to you brother, especially not people with an agenda or your government... there only here for your best interests!
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Hurricane Sandy was probably probably a conspiracy.
Remember the wrestler, "The Hurricane?"
He was probably trained as a wrestler by the government to infiltrate the WWF in order to promote a hurricane agenda, which is what caused hurricane sandy.
(http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/hurricane.jpg)
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Because no one would ever lie to you brother, especially not people with an agenda or your government... there only here for your best interests!
Oh that makes sense , kinda like Castro
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Has anyone explained yet how the killer was able to put the Ar-15 he used to kill everyone back in the trunk of his car after he was dead???
(http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/5xquEi93qps/mqdefault.jpg)
(http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/125976/full/0auoT.jpg)
Total guns brought by shooter
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I can see the NRA US government sending in a deranged loser to shoot up a classroom full of kids.
Fixed
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OK so let me get this straight here, there are some valid points brought up ( I don;t buy them) but reasonable nonetheless. The main argument is that the parents or the community sourounding this incident are not behaving in the manner we expect them to behave in such a case. OK
Now my question is how would you guys know this?
We can not predict how someone will behave in such cases, sorry but we just can not. I was at a funeral not so long ago and some Woman was crying hysterically, like out of control crying. So she was brought out of the room and 20 minutes later she was jumping around and laughing with everyone like the happiest person alive. Her brain was taking her in all kinds of direction from the shock. So someone can be laughing, can be angry,can be sad, can be normal, who knows, in situations like this the behaviour is anything but predictable
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Has anyone explained yet how the killer was able to put the Ar-15 he used to kill everyone back in the trunk of his car after he was dead???
(http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/5xquEi93qps/mqdefault.jpg)
(http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/125976/full/0auoT.jpg)
People are saying that it's a Saiga, and it does look to have a curved magazine, which the AR does not. I'm still skeptical, but there isn't nearly enough conclusive evidence for me to take a stand on the issue. A lot of things don't add up with regards to the official story, but as I said, there isn't enough evidence publically available to completely discount it either.
I'm sure the truth lies in the middle somewhere, wouldn't suprise me if they (Federal Government) simply manipulated the facts and took advantage of this opportunity to push their agenda on gun control, they've been sitting on it waiting for the right time for years now.
Besides, if they really gave a shit about gun violence they'd be going after handguns, you know, the weapons that are responsible for the vast majority of gun crimes, are the most easily concealable, and are some of the easiest to procure.
They don't give a flying fuck about firearm related murders. This is about an agenda, period.
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People are saying that it's a Saiga, and it does look to have a curved magazine, which the AR does not. I'm still skeptical, but there isn't nearly enough conclusive evidence for me to take a stand on the issue. A lot of things don't add up with regards to the official story, but as I said, there isn't enough evidence publically available to completely discount it either.
I'm sure the truth lies in the middle somewhere, wouldn't suprise me if they (Federal Government) simply manipulated the facts and took advantage of this opportunity to push their agenda on gun control, they've been sitting on it waiting for the right time for years now.
Besides, if they really gave a shit about gun violence they'd be going after handguns, you know, the weapons that are responsible for the vast majority of gun crimes, are the most easily concealable, and are some of the easiest to procure.
They don't give a flying fuck about firearm related murders. This is about an agenda, period.
It is most definitely a Saiga 12 gauge with a skeleton stock. Also, that is a shotshell that is ejected. AK's have right side charging handles. AR's have ambidextrous rear charging handles. This rifle is most definitely an AK.
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Secret government photo released, mocking flood victims after a weather machine caused storm.
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So we didn't land on the moon?
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It is most definitely a Saiga 12 gauge with a skeleton stock. Also, that is a shotshell that is ejected. AK's have right side charging handles. AR's have ambidextrous rear charging handles. This rifle is most definitely an AK.
ok you just confused the shit out of me...LOL
I'm the furthest thing from an expert but that looks like a shotgun shell that ejects, not a bullet.
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So we didn't land on the moon?
Actually, I don'y believe we did ;D
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Is Getbig a conspiracy? Maybe the government uses GB as their secret base to learn more about schmoes and the IFBB. Is this possible?
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Actually, I don't believe we did ;D
OTH!! Don't make me come over there. I'll go all P90X on you. :D
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OTH!! Don't make me come over there. I'll go all P90X on you. :D
lol ;D
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In before Falcon and his reptile posts. ;D
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Adam Lanza = A damn Laza
A damn Laza = A damn laser
A damn laser = hologram generated by DARPA
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Adam Lanza = A damn Laza
A damn Laza = A damn laser
A damn laser = hologram generated by DARPA
LOLOLZ. Funny as hell....You're still a ball sniffer though.
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Time to take it bak to the spartan years and get ride of all the baby's that are born FUBAR (fucked up beyond a Retard)
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Time to take it bak to the spartan years and get ride of all the baby's that are born FUBAR (fucked up beyond a Retard)
You don't have to go that far. The Nazis did it too.
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Adam Lanza = A damn Laza
A damn Laza = A damn laser
A damn laser = hologram generated by DARPA
saw jesse ventura almost beat the shit from someone cause they wouldnt let him dick around with DARPA
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gene-rosen-sandy-hook-conspiracy-155033813.html
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gene-rosen-sandy-hook-conspiracy-155033813.html
you wont find any sympathy here Gene take your sob story to another forum
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I've never met a single conspiracy theorist that I liked. All of them are annoying idiots.
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I've never met a single conspiracy theorist that I liked. All of them are annoying idiots.
so tell me, is a conspiracy theorist anyone who questions the media now or spits out what their fed? that seems to be the case lol
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Adam Lanza = A damn Laza
A damn Laza = A damn laser
A damn laser = hologram generated by DARPA
hey, when it first happened, they said his mom's name was Marsha Lanza.
marsha lanza = marshal la nza
marshal la nza = marshal law
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hey, when it first happened, they said his mom's name was Marsha Lanza.
marsha lanza = marshal la nza
marshal la nza = marshal law
You guys kill me with these. lol.
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Just saw this.
http://news.msn.com/us/man-who-sheltered-6-kids-during-newtown-school-massacre-says-he%e2%80%99s-being-harassed-by-sandy-hook-%e2%80%98truthers%e2%80%99
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Its odd how there is a big movement push to tear down the building. Very odd that they want the school demolished ASAP. Only thing stopping it are protests. I haven't heard anything about tearing down the theatre in Colorado.
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Its odd how there is a big movement push to tear down the building. Very odd that they want the school demolished ASAP. Only thing stopping it are protests. I haven't heard anything about tearing down the theatre in Colorado.
The people don't have to go back there everyday.
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The people don't have to go back there everyday.
who goes back there every day ??? ???
the school is located on a one way street , in the middle of the woods :-\
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1220159!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/sandy-hook-elementary-school.jpg)
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If we really landed on the moon... we would keep going back... right?
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If we really landed on the moon... we would keep going back... right?
Of course not , it makes much more sense to build a flying space station and invest billions and billions on that old pile of floating junk instead of a permanent building on moon only a few hours away from the space station
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;)
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Some really intelligent mother fukcers take the Doomsday Clock very seriously...It is now 5 mins to 12...That means that right now scientist believe we are in close to the same amount of trouble we were in during the Cold War when people were building bomb shelters. WHAT DO THEY KNOW THAT WE DONT?
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/01/15/end-near-doomsday-clock-holds-at-5-til-midnight/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock
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ok i dont get it, did kids get shot or what, im confused??
a the dead teachers still alive? or are they heroes?? or did kids die and the media added more shit in to sell stories.
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Of course not , it makes much more sense to build a flying space station and invest billions and billions on that old pile of floating junk instead of a permanent building on moon only a few hours away from the space station
Sarcasm noted! ;)
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I've never met a single conspiracy theorist that I liked. All of them are annoying idiots.
So you think their are no conspiracies anywhere?
con·spir·a·cy (kn-spîr-s)
n. pl. con·spir·a·cies
1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
2. A group of conspirators.
3. Law An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
4. A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design: a conspiracy of wind and tide that devastated coastal areas.
People conspire all the time!
Some conspiracy theories are now fact - even admitted by the governement (Gulf of Tonkin)
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the shootings never happened it was a hoax to take our second amendment rights
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http://streetknowledge.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/video-anderson-cooper-fires-back-at-sandy-hook-conspiracy-theorists/
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the shootings never happened it was a NRA hoax to sell more guns
FIXED
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the shootings never happened it was a NRA hoax to sell more guns
FIXED
the shootings never happened it was a NRA hoax to sell more guns in a conspiracy with the US government to collect more sales taxes on gun sales to stimulate the Obama economy and make people forget all about the the attack on embassy in Libya
Fixed
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http://streetknowledge.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/video-anderson-cooper-fires-back-at-sandy-hook-conspiracy-theorists/
Anderson Cooper admitted that he did CIA training awhile back and supposedly it wasn't for him. :-\He claimed his mom got him into it. lmao
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Anderson Cooper admitted that he did CIA training awhile back and supposedly it wasn't for him. :-\He claimed his mom got him into it. lmao
part of operation Mockingbird...He isn't to be trusted.
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The sandy hook shootings was done by Bush (the first one)...he faked being close to death so he can orchestrate it from a secure location. I also heard that he killed JFK too .... ::) ::) ::) Of course he did 9/11 too.
Dude is just a killing machine. He and the five other white people who rule the world (all Skulls) conspire to dictate human history thru covert operations. ::) ::) ::)
hahaha conspiracy theorist are control freaks that make up reasons so that they don't feel so helpless...you waste your time believing and reading this bullshit long enuf you start to believe it.
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abdominal is part of a cointelpro
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abdominal is part of a cointelpro
That would mean i'm a somebody...And I can assure you that i am not.lol
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The sandy hook shootings was done by Bush (the first one)...he faked being close to death so he can orchestrate it from a secure location. I also heard that he killed JFK too .... ::) ::) ::) Of course he did 9/11 too.
Dude is just a killing machine. He and the five other white people who rule the world (all Skulls) conspire to dictate human history thru covert operations. ::) ::) ::)
hahaha conspiracy theorist are control freaks that make up reasons so that they don't feel so helpless...you waste your time believing and reading this bullshit long enuf you start to believe it.
this is about blood oil sir, there are serious players involved in this oversees and abroad with far more power than people can fathom, with influence that spreads far deeper than your whipping boy presidents. think BIG. and If you think this isn't about money and control you are a fool.
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That would mean i'm a somebody...And I can assure you that i am not.lol
oh you have definitely been noticed.
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oh you have definitely been noticed.
Actually I've already reported him to my COINTELPRO friends. You can bet he's already at a "re-neducation" camp.
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I find it curious that these secret skulls with "far more power than you can fathom" can shut an entire town up and pull off a fake massacre, but they can't pull these conspiracy videos off Youtube
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I find it curious that these secret skulls with "far more power than you can fathom" can shut an entire town up and pull off a fake massacre, but they can't pull these conspiracy videos off Youtube
hahah exactly .....
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I find it curious that these secret skulls with "far more power than you can fathom" can shut an entire town up and pull off a fake massacre, but they can't pull these conspiracy videos off Youtube
if they did, the general sheep public would wonder why, then the whole thing would unwravel eventually. conspiracy videos and any info related keep the sheep content, and in line. cause they know if they agree with the conspiracy they will face the scrutiny they themselves put forth on to conspiracy or truther types,
its sad that people are their own worse enemy.
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They control the media not the Internet
They are not as powerful as Annonymous on the World Wide Web , if they even tried to stop something Annonymous would find a way to get it out
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They control the media not the Internet
They are not as powerful as Annonymous on the World Wide Web , if they even tried to stop something Annonymous would find a way to get it out
Ah. Us idiots thought the internet was media too, but what do we know.
btw, as soon as I posted about Abdominal a helicopter started flying by my office building. No whisper drive or anything, I feel like they want me to know they're there.
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I can see the doubt that might creep into people's minds about some "conspiracy" theories, such as what happened on 9/11.
But you people who are buying into crazy conspiracies regarding this shooting seriously need to get a fucking job and get off the Internet so much. The video at the start of this thread is fucking amateur hour.
I live in CT and know people effected by this, as well as people who grew up in that town.
The kid had access to guns. He knew how to use them. He was whacked in the head and shot up the school. There are bodies. There were funerals. Case fucking closed!
Yes, there were inconsistencies in some of the early reporting because that is the nature of cable news these days. Put it out now. Start talking about it right away. Make assumptions right away. It's always going to be like that.
You want truth. Get off the fucking computer and visit that town and the families effected. You'll get your fucking truth. When you're done, go get a fucking job!
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So there weren't any dead Jews in Germany during WWII?
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So there weren't any dead Jews in Germany during WWII?
That is correct Sir.
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Thank you good sir.
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Some really intelligent mother fukcers take the Doomsday Clock very seriously...It is now 5 mins to 12...That means that right now scientist believe we are in close to the same amount of trouble we were in during the Cold War when people were building bomb shelters. WHAT DO THEY KNOW THAT WE DONT?
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/01/15/end-near-doomsday-clock-holds-at-5-til-midnight/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock
What a weird fkn concept this clock is. Almost like a superstitious undertone to the whole thing...totally bizarre.
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http://streetknowledge.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/video-anderson-cooper-fires-back-at-sandy-hook-conspiracy-theorists/
Professional Presstitute.
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Fast forward to just before 8:30 and see the "dad" who lost a kid laugh before he thinks the camera starts rolling and then gets ready to start play acting his sorrow. Amazing! Please anyone explain this shit!!!
There are many more gems in this video. This is a total fraud committed to pass gun laws. The perpetrators need to hang!
Great post OP this is going viral, great to see people waking up.. :)
They now have added a warning before watching the video, this is obviously ruffling some feathers..
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Great post OP this is going viral, great to see people waking up.. :)
They now have added a warning before watching the video, this is obviously ruffling some feathers..
If you think that this mass shooting was either faked or a psyop by the government you must be absolutely fucking NUTS. Only in America could they be so mentally retarded to believe such nonsense. Such mass paranoia and hysteria, from an outsiders perspective it truly does look like mass collective mental illness. The average American is so mentally sick and lacking any self awareness, they truly think it is normal to behave in this way, either creating non existent conspiracies or raging about gun rights. What a sick country!
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http://gawker.com/5976204/behind-the-sandy-hook-truther-conspiracy-video-that-five-million-people-have-watched-in-one-week?utm_source=jalopnik.com&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=recirculation (http://gawker.com/5976204/behind-the-sandy-hook-truther-conspiracy-video-that-five-million-people-have-watched-in-one-week?utm_source=jalopnik.com&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=recirculation)
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Nothing sick about it....it just presents another perspective on viewing a particular event. How many "we are all grieving" or "this time of mourning and healing" can you possibly stomach? I like hard jabs to the stomach that question certain events that disregard others' feelings.
I personally don't buy the conspiracy as a whole, but it most certainly raises a few valid questions about the official story we are fed.
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Nothing sick about it....it just presents another perspective on viewing a particular event. How many "we are all grieving" or "this time of mourning and healing" can you possibly stomach? I like hard jabs to the stomach that question certain events that disregard others' feelings.
I personally don't buy the conspiracy as a whole, but it most certainly raises a few valid questions about the official story we are fed.
According to the article I posted, the grieving man, is not a card carrying SAG actor or a "crisis actor". And it seems that people want to make connections that aren't there.
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If you think that this mass shooting was either faked or a psyop by the government you must be absolutely fucking NUTS. Only in America could they be so mentally retarded to believe such nonsense. Such mass paranoia and hysteria, from an outsiders perspective it truly does look like mass collective mental illness. The average American is so mentally sick and lacking any self awareness, they truly think it is normal to behave in this way, either creating non existent conspiracies or raging about gun rights. What a sick country!
are you kidding me, coming from you of all people? Aren't you the one who thinks 9/11 is an inside job and a huge supporter of Julian assange?? You think this for some reason is out of the realm of possibility because you support gun control.
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are you kidding me, coming from you of all people? Aren't you the one who thinks 9/11 is an inside job and a huge supporter of Julian assange?? You think this for some reason is out of the realm of possibility because you support gun control.
9/11 is definitely questionable, Julian Assange has nothing to do with conspiracies, he actually dislikes 9/11 truthers and I couldn't care less about Gun Control, I just think those who overtly favour and advocate against Gun Control are completely fucking nuts and show obvious signs of serious mental illness. If you think that this is a conspiracy based on the media getting their facts wrong initially (this is common with every tragedy, their is a lot of competition to be first with the news, and as a result some questionable things get reported, eventually the truth comes out) or because some parents weren't as grief stricken as you think they should be, that's ABUSRD!
Already this piece of shit youtube video has been debunked and showed to be full of lies, like the guy whose house some kids ran to being a member of the screen actors guild, complete bullshit! but do you think some teenagers in a trench-coat and a youtube account are going to care about a small inconvenient thing called the truth! And you have it the wrong way around, you think it's a CONSPIRACY because you advocate against GUN CONTROL!
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I like hard jabs to the stomach that question certain events that disregard others' feelings.
HHHMMMM, Sounds like your average SOCIOPATH! I am sure you make friends easily! ::)
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What is crazy is a video like this has 5 million watch views
And a dumb fucking video of a Korean Gook pretending to ride a donkey and saying condom style over and over gets a billion views
What a beautiful world we live in
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Ekulo needs a punch in the throat. Where's Lee Priest when you need him?
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What a weird fkn concept this clock is. Almost like a superstitious undertone to the whole thing...totally bizarre.
yes some of the most intelligent minds on the planet contribute to the Doomsday clock. Yet many people will call the Doomsday clock a hoax and blame CT'ers for even bringing it up.
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So 19 pissed off Arabs didn't fly those planes into NYC and the Pentagon? OK, sure.
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So 19 pissed off Arabs didn't fly those planes into NYC and the Pentagon? OK, sure.
Nope , Arabs don't exist ,they are unemployed actors paid by the government .
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I knew Americans were dumb, but this is just on a whole new level :-\
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I knew Americans were dumb, but this is just on a whole new level :-\
Oh brother ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=280763.0;attach=320701;image)
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So 19 pissed off Arabs didn't fly those planes into NYC and the Pentagon? OK, sure.
not sure, but i am sure that the FBI found this Magic Terrorist Passport on the streets of NYC before the towers collapesed
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/rh50105339.jpg)
(http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/69504.gif)
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not sure, but i am sure that the FBI found this Magic Terrorist Passport on the streets of NYC before the towers collapesed
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/rh50105339.jpg)
(http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/69504.gif)
lol
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So 19 pissed off Arabs didn't fly those planes into NYC and the Pentagon? OK, sure.
It can be arabs who did it, sure
but with the co-operation of the govt
look up "operation northwood" - it is just ONE example of govt funded terrorism as a POLICY
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It can be arabs who did it, sure
but with the co-operation of the govt
look up "operation northwood" - it is just ONE example of govt funded terrorism as a POLICY
I don't consider myself a conspiracy guy, but the Operation Northwoods thing is mind blowing.
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"I think conspiracy theories are a conspiracy of the Gov't to keep us from thinking about real issues."
-Said by a poster on Jalopnik
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Reptilian shape shifters?
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Could be those families were planted there years ago, purposely to bring their kids to this school so they can be part of this scheme. Seems logical right?
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Could be those families were planted there years ago, purposely to bring their kids to this school so they can be part of this scheme. Seems logical right?
Not as far fetched as some would say. Big govt operations can be years in the making.
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LOL that pic is from about 10 years ago che ;D
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LOL that pic is from about 10 years ago che ;D
;D = the smiley face of shame.
Just ask Tbumbz
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;D = the smiley face of shame.
Just ask Tbumbz
I still look better than you, Tintin.
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In the long illustrious history of Getbig there have been many stupid threads. I have started and contributed to many of these stupid threads, but this thread sets a brand new standard for galatically stupid threads.
Well done people, well done.
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In the long illustrious history of Getbig there have been many stupid threads. I have started and contributed to many of these stupid threads, but this thread sets a brand new standard for galatically stupid threads.
Well done people, well done.
HOW DARE YOU SIR!!!!!!!!
Manti TE'O Girlfriend Died in that tragedy
(http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/006/458/hi-res-6656486_crop_exact.jpg?w=650&h=440&q=75)
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In the long illustrious history of Getbig there have been many stupid threads. I have started and contributed to many of these stupid threads, but this thread sets a brand new standard for galatically stupid threads.
Well done people, well done.
;D
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WTF??? One thing for sure is out of all the interviews that I have seen of the parents who lost their children none of them seem to be too broken up about it? Not one tear that I have seen. I just don't get it. They don't seem drugged up or anything just kinda emotionless. Either that or they are crying with no tears and even laughing. Bunch of weird people in that town. ???
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WTF??? One thing for sure is out of all the interviews that I have seen of the parents who lost their children none of them seem to be too broken up about it? Not one tear that I have seen. I just don't get it. They don't seem drugged up or anything just kinda emotionless. Either that or they are crying with no tears and even laughing. Bunch of weird people in that town. ???
Usually rich people don't give a fuck about their kids.
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Ponderously stupid thread.
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Ponderously stupid thread.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iNTWTP7aNBw/T5-3NwnI31I/AAAAAAAAEDQ/Qst1MRzRyqU/s1600/animal-farm-poster-large.jpg)
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Usually rich people don't give a fuck about their kids.
QFT
Signed
The Melendez Brothers
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So we're saying the Menendez brothers didn't shoot their parents 117 times in the head with shotguns and then blame it on the "Music industry mafia"?
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You guys kill me with these. lol.
no i kill you with my millions of falcon minions my son
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This couples 7 year old daughter was shot 11 times not 24 hours before this!! All they did was smile threw the whole interview?? If you turn down the sound you would have thought there had just won the lottery by they their facial expressions?
The next pic is of the Victoria Soto's family with Anderson Cooper. I saw their interview also. Same as the one above? Not one indication of them being slightly upset or having been crying? What the Hell is wrong with these people?
Dont even get me started on this Robbie Parker guy. >:(
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This couples 7 year old daughter was shot 11 times not 24 hours before this!! All they did was smile threw the whole interview?? If you turn down the sound you would have thought there had just won the lottery by they their facial expressions?
The next pic is of the Victoria Soto's family with Anderson Cooper. I saw their interview also. Same as the one above? Not one indication of them being slightly upset or having been crying? What the Hell is wrong with these people?
Dont even get me started on this Robbie Parker guy. >:(
So you're saying they are Professional actors, but yet they can't even show any fake grief?
What exactly are you saying?
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So you're saying they are Professional actors, but yet they can't even show any fake grief?
What exactly are you saying?
Well, you have to admit that it is kind of weird that they are smiling and laughing. I mean, everyone deals with grief in their own way, but why are so many different sets of parents laughing and smiling?
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This couples 7 year old daughter was shot 11 times not 24 hours before this!! All they did was smile threw the whole interview?? If you turn down the sound you would have thought there had just won the lottery by they their facial expressions?
The next pic is of the Victoria Soto's family with Anderson Cooper. I saw their interview also. Same as the one above? Not one indication of them being slightly upset or having been crying? What the Hell is wrong with these people?
Dont even get me started on this Robbie Parker guy. >:(
Mourners can be lighthearted and humorous at funerals, then go home depressed.
No offense, but you're a bit of a simpleton.
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Well, you have to admit that it is kind of weird that they are smiling and laughing. I mean, everyone deals with grief in their own way, but why are so many different sets of parents laughing and smiling?
Agreed. Where did those screen grabs come from? Please post the entire interview.
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Mourners can be lighthearted and humorous at funerals, then go home depressed.
No offense, but you're a bit of a simpleton.
ok,,,not when 7 yr old children are gunned down in a small town in a elementary school,,,yeah great time to show your pearly whites and pose for pictures ....
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Agreed. Where did those screen grabs come from? Please post the entire interview.
Yes, posting the entire interview would be good. There could have been periods of laughter and crying. Though if multiple sets of parents are predominantly laughing and smiling throughout the interview, I'd say that is a little strange.
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So you're saying they are Professional actors, but yet they can't even show any fake grief?
What exactly are you saying?
Seems like you already know what "I'm saying" supposedly. ::) I'm not implying anything I'm genuinely shocked at how these people are acting.
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Agreed. Where did those screen grabs come from? Please post the entire interview.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=567_1358131510
Watch it yourself. I'm not into all this conspiracy stuff either just shocked at how well these people seem to take this.
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Dad didn't cry = 3/10 (shitty actor)
Mom = 5/10
Fox lady = 10/10
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Seems like you already know what "I'm saying" supposedly. ::) I'm not implying anything I'm genuinely shocked at how these people are acting.
Gotcha. Can you post you those entire interviews? Those screens grabs seem crazy.
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Yes, posting the entire interview would be good. There could have been periods of laughter and crying. Though if multiple sets of parents are predominantly laughing and smiling throughout the interview, I'd say that is a little strange.
Swear to God none of them show no emotion. The first couple reminds me of watching one of those late night infomercials where people talk about how the got rich making money just turn the sound down. I unfortunately know a few people who have lost children and they are inconsolable. They didn't cry for hours they cried for days and when they weren't crying they looking terrible, puffy faces red eyes zombie looking. These people were being interviewed mostly within 24 hours. WTF????
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Gotcha. Can you post you those entire interviews? Those screens grabs seem crazy.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=567_1358131510
Just fast forward and they are easy to find.
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Good point Tommy all these "actors" should lose their SAG cards they sucked at grief!
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Gotcha. Can you post you those entire interviews? Those screens grabs seem crazy.
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Swear to God none of them show no emotion. The first couple reminds me of watching one of those late night infomercials where people talk about how the got rich making money just turn the sound down. I unfortunately know a few people who have lost children and they are inconsolable. They didn't cry for hours they cried for days and when they weren't crying they looking terrible, puffy faces red eyes zombie looking. These people were being interviewed mostly within 24 hours. WTF????
dude thats what i thought,i remember looking in the paper coffin being carried the pallbearers nothing no moist eyes,red,grimaces nothing,when the president spoke at the auditorium silence no whimpering,shrieks ,nothing,your talking tragedy epic proportions that would turn a community upside down.i don't know,,,
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Just watched a few of the posted interviews. These are simply rational, sane people, that know their kid was killed. What are you looking for? Some sort of "I"LL KILL THAT FUCKER'S FAMILY!!!!!" response.
Worst thread in Getbig's history. Worst.
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"Even I think this is too much of a stretch." - Manti Teo
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There is no ''right way'' to grieve you stupid cocksuckers .
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God forgive me, but the more I watch that the angrier I get. These people called Anderson Cooper, for what??? One day your daughter's brutally murdered and the next you are sitting with Anderson Cooper talking weird shit and another couple of getting publicity shots all smiley with the president??
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talking weird shit
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There is no ''right way'' to grieve you stupid cocksuckers .
Grieving doesn't usually involve laughter and smiles at least not within the first few hours of your young child being used for target practice.
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She said her daughter was all about peace for the world or something similar. What little girl or boy at that age goes around talking about world peace? WEIRD
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What little girl or boy at that age goes around talking about world peace? WEIRD
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You don't have kids ,do you?
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You don't have kids ,do you?
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Yeah I'm sure these kids orchestrated the event all by themselves. ::)
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Yeah I'm sure these kids orchestrated the event all by themselves. ::)
I missed the part where her mom said that the little girl organized a world peace rally . ::)
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I missed the part where her mom said that the little girl organized a world peace rally . ::)
maybe she wanted to be Miss USA?
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I missed the part where her mom said that the little girl organized a world peace rally . ::)
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Dear God you're pretty thick and not in a good way. ;D Point is if these kids are into world peace it's because their parents got them involved and it wasn't just some randon idea like these idiot parents imply. I think they wanted their 15 minutes of fame at the expense of their daughter.
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these kids are into world peace it's because their parents got them involved and it wasn't just some randon idea like these idiot parents imply.
I agree
they said their daughter loved to draw the peace sign , that's some crazy shit.
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She said her daughter was all about peace for the world or something similar. What little girl or boy at that age goes around talking about world peace? WEIRD
Thats fucked man, very fucken weird.
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Thats fucked man, very fucken weird.
it's also weird that Buster Douglas KO'ed Mike Tyson. . . but it really happened.
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There is no ''right way'' to grieve you stupid cocksuckers .
Che, I agree with this. The problem is that MULTIPLE sets of parents are laughing and smiling. I could understand if it was one set of parents who just happen to laugh and smile to hide their pain. But its been happening with a lot of these parents. What are the chances they ALL are grieving the same exact way (through laughing and smiling). That is what makes it suspicious, not the laughing and smiling, but the amount of different parents that are reacting in a similar manner. That is what is making me wonder.
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Che, I agree with this. The problem is that MULTIPLE sets of parents are laughing and smiling. I could understand if it was one set of parents who just happen to laugh and smile to hide their pain. But its been happening with a lot of these parents. What are the chances they ALL are grieving the same exact way (through laughing and smiling). That is what makes it suspicious, not the laughing and smiling, but the amount of different parents that are reacting in a similar manner.
Bingo! The Stepford town.
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if they did, the general sheep public would wonder why, then the whole thing would unwravel eventually. conspiracy videos and any info related keep the sheep content, and in line. cause they know if they agree with the conspiracy they will face the scrutiny they themselves put forth on to conspiracy or truther types,
its sad that people are their own worse enemy.
exactly, the more theories out there the better. the truth blends in somewhere in the bowels of all the theories which might not ever be solved.
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exactly, the more theories out there the better. the truth blends in somewhere in the bowels of all the theories which might not ever be solved.
Agree, the truth always lies in the middle somewhere.
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ok,,,not when 7 yr old children are gunned down in a small town in a elementary school,,,yeah great time to show your pearly whites and pose for pictures ....
good answer
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Bingo! The Stepford town.
I think there are two ways this can be viewed as a conspiracy:
1) it never actually happened
2) it actually did happen, but it was orchestrated by the government.
Which one do you think it is?
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I think there are two ways this can be viewed as a conspiracy:
1) it never actually happened
2) it actually did happen, but it was orchestrated by the government.
Which one do you think it is?
Just ask yourself Cui bono. The NRA did it!
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I think there are two ways this can be viewed as a conspiracy:
1) it never actually happened
2) it actually did happen, but it was orchestrated by the government.
Which one do you think it is?
3. It actually happened, and wasn't orchestrated, but the government manipulated the facts after the incident in order to use the tragedy to push an agenda.
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3. It actually happened, and wasn't orchestrated, but the government manipulated the facts after the incident in order to use the tragedy to push an agenda.
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3. It actually happened, and wasn't orchestrated, but the government manipulated the facts after the incident in order to use the tragedy to push an agenda.
Please enlighten us. Tell us more.
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Please enlighten us. Tell us more.
so you actually think the government isn't capable of these things? They 'couldn't, or they 'wouldn't do this? please, which one is it? im just curious
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3. It actually happened, and wasn't orchestrated, but the government manipulated the facts after the incident in order to use the tragedy to push an agenda.
I know YOU think this, and that is fine. I was just playing devils advocate. Which way, if it was orchestrated and/or faked, do you think they the govt would try and pull it off?
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Please enlighten us. Tell us more.
Just an observation of a possible "CT" scenario.
The confusion with which firearms were used, what was in the trunk, the way he entered the building, the way things were reported and then abruptly changed several days later... etc.
Just a possible scenario I came up with.
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I know YOU think this, and that is fine. I was just playing devils advocate. Which way, if it was orchestrated and/or faked, do you think they the govt would try and pull it off?
I don't think this necessarily, just so many confusing/contradicting things that went on. I don't know what to believe, nor do I have the evidence to make a serious stab at it.
I just don't necessarily think that what we got was the whole truth.
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Why is it so difficult to believe that some wacked-out, friendless, retarded kid stole his stupid mom's machine gun and drove her car down to the school and killed all the little kiddies? Anyone one us could drive to Safeway tomorrow and kill 50 people, but we don't. Why? Because we aren't retarded & insane AND we don't have a machine gun laying around in our house.
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Former AUSTRALIAN PM John Howard tells US how he curbed gun crime
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/former-pm-howard-tells-us-how-he-curbed-gun-crime/story-fn59niix-1226555912018 (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/former-pm-howard-tells-us-how-he-curbed-gun-crime/story-fn59niix-1226555912018)
“The fundamental problem was the ready availability of high-powered weapons, which enabled people to convert their murderous impulses into mass killing,” he writes of Australia, pre-1996.
“But nothing trumps easy access to a gun. It is easier to kill 10 people with a gun than with a knife.”
Mr Howard outlines the opposition he faced to gun law reforms, particularly in rural areas.
“In the end, we won the battle to change gun laws because there was majority support across Australia for banning certain weapons. And today, there is a wide consensus that our 1996 reforms not only reduced the gun-related homicide rate, but also the suicide rate.
“Few Australians would deny that their country is safer today as a consequence of gun control. “
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I don't think this necessarily, just so many confusing/contradicting things that went on. I don't know what to believe, nor do I have the evidence to make a serious stab at it.
I just don't necessarily think that what we got was the whole truth.
Well, I am not saying it was definitely a conspiracy. Just saying that certain things seem odd.
You just never know what gets covered up. I am sure we will never know the whole story.
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Why is it so difficult to believe that some wacked-out, friendless, retarded kid stole his stupid mom's machine gun and drove her car down to the school and killed all the little kiddies? Anyone one us could drive to Safeway tomorrow and kill 50 people, but we don't. Why? Because we aren't retarded & insane AND we don't have a machine laying around in our house.
Actually, if you read my post, I said that it WASN'T staged, and it was a RANDOM EVENT by a crazy person, but that the government may have used the opportunity to push an agenda, and that they MAY HAVE manipulated the facts slightly in order to help push this agenda.
I don't believe the kid was a CIA plant or that those people are actors necessarily. But there is enough conflicting information that I am skeptical of the "official" story.
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so you actually think the government isn't capable of these things? They 'couldn't, or they 'wouldn't do this? please, which one is it? im just curious
What things? What are these things you are talking about? Try and be specific.
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I think there are two ways this can be viewed as a conspiracy:
1) it never actually happened
2) it actually did happen, but it was orchestrated by the government.
Which one do you think it is?
I have no idea. I'm just shocked at the reactions.
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Because we aren't retarded & insane AND we don't have a machine laying around in our house.
A. Speak for yourself
B. Kid didn't have a "machine gun", nor is an AR a machine gun. C'mon Tommy, at least attempt to know what you're talking about if you're going to try and be a dick. :D :D
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What things? What are these things you are talking about? Try and be specific.
to be honest, I wouldnt put anything passed the government. That is, if it came out that the government was behind the shooting, I would not be surprised.
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What things? What are these things you are talking about? Try and be specific.
you act as though the government isn't capable of horrendous things or aren't psychopathic in nature. now im just wondering if you are writing any manipulation of media coverage off in this specific case or are just one of those good ol' americans who refuse to believe evil exists in your government. like i said im just curious and trying to gauge where you are coming from is all.
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to be honest, I wouldnt put anything passed the government. That is, if it came out that the government was behind the shooting, I would not be surprised.
How many people would have to be involved in order to pull something like 9/11 or the School shooting ?
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A. Speak for yourself
B. Kid didn't have a "machine gun", nor is an AR a machine gun. C'mon Tommy, at least attempt to know what you're talking about if you're going to try and be a dick. :D :D
OK, OK a Semi-automatic .223 with a 30 round mag. It's a machine gun. It's not a BAR or and SAW but any dunce can pull that AR's trigger very fast. Push down on "eject" slam home a new mag and go again.
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OK, OK a Semi-automatic .223 with a 30 round mag. It's a machine gun. It's not a BAR or and SAW but any dunce can pull that AR's trigger very fast. Push down on "eject" slam home a new mag and go again.
Same speed as a pistol (or a pair of pistols, which is what was originally reported), in that situation, at that range, the pistols would be just as deadly. And they do have large extended mag's for pistols, before you go there. ;D
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That's it Shockwave! I can't take no more. I'm sending this guy to your house.
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How many people would have to be involved in order to pull something like 9/11 or the School shooting ?
A LOT! Hard to put a number on it, but it would have to be a significant amount of people.
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0.000001
Your chance of being killed with an Assault Rifle in the United States... ::)
Knowing that.... I wonder why some people are so dead set on this? Hmmm.....
https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?CampaignID=nranews
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A LOT! Hard to put a number on it, but it would have to be a significant amount of people.
No. Just kill everybody. But then you have to kill the killers. But then you have to kill the killers of the killers. Oh fuck it.
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No. Just kill everybody. But then you have to kill the killers. But then you have to kill the killers of the killers. Oh fuck it.
He will save us all
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Thread complete.
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A LOT! Hard to put a number on it, but it would have to be a significant amount of people.
Exactly , '' three can keep a secret if two of them are dead ''
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For what it's worth, there are a lot of people like myself (level headed, NOT conspiracy theorists, just normal people), who find some really conflicting and confusing information given to us from the media regarding Sandy Hook.
We're (I'm) not crazy for acknowledging that there is misinformation given to us. There are contradictions regarding what actually happened.
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Assault rifles killed less than 320 people in a nation of 312,000,000 (many of which were probably gang related).
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Can't forget these crocodile tears
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That's it Shockwave! I can't take no more. I'm sending this guy to your house.
;D
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Because I've watched hundreds of movies that involved loved ones reactions to the death of their child, I am an expert on how a father or mother should react immediatly after their child is murdered. In fact, a friend of my wife just this weekend, lost her 17 yr old unexpectedly on Sunday. We went to visit her Monday and she wasn't crying inconsolably. She wasn't on her knees screaming for Jesus... she was kind of up beat. She smiled on ocassion and laughed a few times at some little joke. I immediatly saw through this charade and called her on her bullshit. I accused her of fabricating her daughters death because she wasn't acting like I thought she should act, having just lost her child who she lived and breathed for...
On a more serious note.. I've been to several scenes where someone just lost a loved one and the responses are all over the place.. after awhile you tend to realize it is very difficult to judge someones guilt by those responses. Grief is a powerful thing
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Because I've watched hundreds of movies that involved loved ones reactions to the death of their child, I am an expert on how a father or mother should react immediatly after their child is murdered. In fact, a friend of my wife just this weekend, lost her 17 yr old unexpectedly on Sunday. We went to visit her Monday and she wasn't crying inconsolably. She wasn't on her knees screaming for Jesus... she was kind of up beat. She smiled on ocassion and laughed a few times at some little joke. I immediatly saw through this charade and called her on her bullshit. I accused her of fabricating her daughters death because she wasn't acting like I thought she should act, having just lost her child who she lived and breathed for...
On a more serious note.. I've been to several scenes where someone just lost a loved one and the responses are all over the place.. after awhile you tend to realize it is very difficult to judge someones guilt by those responses. Grief is a powerful thing
Good post...The human will go through a LOOP of emotions. And lets not forget that 1 out of every 24 people that walk the earth are sociopaths. Which means they don't have the ability to have empathy toward anything. So if a sociopath loses a so called "loved one", their emotional LOOP is going to look a lot different than most other people's.
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The 2 posts above are good^^^
You can not predict behaviour based on grief, it is an emotion in a field of it's own, some cry, some laugh, hell some even dance, impossible to know what their feeling are based on behaviour
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For what it's worth, there are a lot of people like myself (level headed, NOT conspiracy theorists, just normal people), who find some really conflicting and confusing information given to us from the media regarding Sandy Hook.
We're (I'm) not crazy for acknowledging that there is misinformation given to us. There are contradictions regarding what actually happened.
What's the contradiction? A madman went into a school and killed 24 people, then committed suicide.
Do you need the scenerio to play out as if it were a scripted soap opera with characters and plot lines?
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What's the contradiction? A madman went into a school and killed 24 people, then committed suicide.
Do you need the scenerio to play out as if it were a scripted soap opera with characters and plot lines?
I don't "need" any sort of story to be played out; I'm not looking for entertainment. I've just noticed some discrepancies. So have a lot of other normal, logically thinking people.
I'll throw one out there: the weapons used, and where they were found. Hint: check the News footage of the weapons in the car, and compare what weapon was actually used to killed the kids.
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For what it's worth, there are a lot of people like myself (level headed, NOT conspiracy theorists, just normal people), who find some really conflicting and confusing information given to us from the media regarding Sandy Hook.
We're (I'm) not crazy for acknowledging that there is misinformation given to us. There are contradictions regarding what actually happened.
that's where i'm at on it,,same logic.
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That this thread has reached page 11 shows two things:
1: people don't trust the government
2: the majority of getbig is retarded
Hth
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the weapons used, and where they were found
What weapons did he use ?
Where did they find the weapons ?
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was there a funeral for the retarded kid and the mother ??? ???
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was there a funeral or the retarded kid and the mother ??? ???
Yes
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What weapons did he use ?
Where did they find the weapons ?
I'm not holding any ones hand to inform them about this. Look it up, the info is out there. I have no agenda here, I'm not trying to accomplish anything, just merely stating my observation of the facts and saying that there are discrepancies. Research for yourself and come to your own conclusion. That's what I did. You're a smart guy Che.
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If you think these events were organized your a moron. If you think a group or several groups didn't use this story to push an agenda your a moron. I can tell you from being with the police, when a judge holds evidence and police reports for 90 days, something fucked up is going on, especially with a national story that nobody has but is demanding answers to.
There was no ar-15 used in this crime. They are holding everything for 90 days while our government are passing laws in record time. Think about it.
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I'm not holding any ones hand to inform them about this. Look it up, the info is out there. I have no agenda here, I'm not trying to accomplish anything, just merely stating my observation of the facts and saying that there are discrepancies. Research for yourself and come to your own conclusion. That's what I did.
So, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about .
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So, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about .
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So, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about .
I just feel if I start spelling it all out for you like you're a child, it comes across as me trying to push some conspiracy theory agenda, which is NOT what I'm about. Ive already Told you what to google. Do you need me to hold your hand through this?
It's better for you to spend 20 minutes of your own time learning the facts of what has been made known to the public. You're a smart guy, I'm sure you are capable of that. I'd actually like to hear your opinion after youve spent 20 minutes investigating the weapon issue I brought up; I'd love to hear someone explain that to me.
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Reports say that the kid who did the shooting didn't talk to anyone almost all of his life. Hell he wouldn't even talk to the person cutting his hair unless his mother told him to. That folks is someone who is programmed. Now it doesn't mean government programmed but he was programmed by his mother. Now if the mom had ties with people from some dark government agency, then it's not far fetched to think that the kid could have been programmed one way or another from someone/something outside of his mom. There's also the possibility that the mom was programmed and she pushed that programming off to her bloodline. Or he was just mental ill and lost it. Either way, researching all of this needs to been done and done for decades.
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have they released this lady's bunker yet and all her can foods she was prepping for ??? ???
it was reported everywhere in the media she was a doomsday prepper yet nothing has been shown of her arsenal of weapons or can tunas
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Jesse Ventura - The Official Facebook Page
I dont see enough evidence to think Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. This is more of a tragic event turned into political opportunity than it is a staged event. Was there investigative bungling and the sensationalist media reporting unverified stories? Yes. Was there confusion and were facts lost and gained in that confusion? Yes. Are there people, even witnesses, looking for their 30 seconds in the spotlight? Yes. Are there individuals and institutions using and shaping this event for their own political agendas? Yes, and we must keep a very watchful eye on those institutions to keep them from twisting the facts of this event. Sadly, everything I mentioned above can, when taken out of context, make one think manipulation is afoot. Most chaotic events can come across that way. In examining the event, I don't see government hands at work mainly because they would have covered their tracks better. We can't expect them to pull off elaborately planned hoaxes while at the same time leaving behind so many easy "smoking guns" for us to find. It took years for independent investigators to uncover JFK. It took years for us to begin scratching out the truth about 9/11. Those of us who study real history, not state sanctioned history, can very easily become just as close minded and biased for conspiracy as those who stand in our way and refuse to accept the truth about our government and the people running it. It's very easy to fall into that trap, especially when knowing how much of our history and world events are not what they appear to be. So please, do not immediately jump up and yell "Fire!" just because someone makes a youtube video. Research, research, research. You only hurt our cause by promoting false conspiracies and crackpot agendas. Much like the Birther conspiracy, I am starting to think that a lot of the so called "evidence" of conspiracy coming out about Sandy Hook is designed and fabricated to make us "conspiracy theorists", us truth seekers, look foolish. Why? So that when good people argue against the destruction of our Second Amendment they can easily be painted with the "crackpot" brush.
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Jesse Ventura - The Official Facebook Page
I dont see enough evidence to think Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. This is more of a tragic event turned into political opportunity than it is a staged event. Was there investigative bungling and the sensationalist media reporting unverified stories? Yes. Was there confusion and were facts lost and gained in that confusion? Yes. Are there people, even witnesses, looking for their 30 seconds in the spotlight? Yes. Are there individuals and institutions using and shaping this event for their own political agendas? Yes, and we must keep a very watchful eye on those institutions to keep them from twisting the facts of this event. Sadly, everything I mentioned above can, when taken out of context, make one think manipulation is afoot. Most chaotic events can come across that way. In examining the event, I don't see government hands at work mainly because they would have covered their tracks better. We can't expect them to pull off elaborately planned hoaxes while at the same time leaving behind so many easy "smoking guns" for us to find. It took years for independent investigators to uncover JFK. It took years for us to begin scratching out the truth about 9/11. Those of us who study real history, not state sanctioned history, can very easily become just as close minded and biased for conspiracy as those who stand in our way and refuse to accept the truth about our government and the people running it. It's very easy to fall into that trap, especially when knowing how much of our history and world events are not what they appear to be. So please, do not immediately jump up and yell "Fire!" just because someone makes a youtube video. Research, research, research. You only hurt our cause by promoting false conspiracies and crackpot agendas. Much like the Birther conspiracy, I am starting to think that a lot of the so called "evidence" of conspiracy coming out about Sandy Hook is designed and fabricated to make us "conspiracy theorists", us truth seekers, look foolish. Why? So that when good people argue against the destruction of our Second Amendment they can easily be painted with the "crackpot" brush.
In all fairness to this statement by Jesse, 9/11 changed EVERYTHING...The internet has totally changed since then also. Everything is now real time and many people know that the CIA is in control of a lot of the western media.
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If you think these events were organized your a moron. If you think a group or several groups didn't use this story to push an agenda your a moron. I can tell you from being with the police, when a judge holds evidence and police reports for 90 days, something fucked up is going on, especially with a national story that nobody has but is demanding answers to.
There was no ar-15 used in this crime. They are holding everything for 90 days while our government are passing laws in record time. Think about it.
finally a post with some good sense on here
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I do NOT trust the USA.
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I do NOT trust the USA.
you served in the military Arce
if they asked you to kill American Civilians in some king of Revolutionary future scenario , would you do it soldier?
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I am a MARINE. NOT a Soldier.
I followed orders. NOT any more.
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I am a MARINE. NOT a Soldier.
I followed orders. NOT any more.
i see
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if they asked you to kill American Civilians in some king of Revolutionary future scenario , would you do it soldier?
No way in hell.
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I am NOT a Soldier. I am a US MARINE.
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I am NOT a Soldier. I am a US MARINE.
So do you think being a Marine is any better than being a normal soldier or sailor or airman?
Why do you think you are better than other parts of the military? Is this part of the brainwashing to make US Marines feel "special" so they can be controlled more? Is it typically the less intelligent members of the armed forces who become marines?
I'm not trying to fuck with you. It's just a bit strange that US Marines seem the most robotic and Ooohh Haaa obidient and sempir fi "special". Reminds me of the way we treat retarded kids nowadays ("You are a special little guy timmy" etc ) In Heart Break Ridge this was parodied to great effect.
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So do you think being a Marine is any better than being a normal soldier or sailor or airman?
Why do you think you are better than other parts of the military? Is this part of the brainwashing to make US Marines feel "special" so they can be controlled more? Is it typically the less intelligent members of the armed forces who become marines?
I'm not trying to fuck with you. It's just a bit strange that US Marines seem the most robotic and Ooohh Haaa obidient and sempir fi "special". Reminds me of the way we treat retarded kids nowadays ("You are a special little guy timmy" etc ) In Heart Break Ridge this was parodied to great effect.
You have to have been in the military to understand the friendly rivalry between the services. Marines are marines, army are soldiers, Airforce are airmen, Navy is lazy (just kidding)
All are servicemen and women. Everyone thinks their branch of service is the best in general. No harm meant by distinguishing the difference.. though some probably take it to extremes.
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So do you think being a Marine is any better than being a normal soldier or sailor or airman?
Why do you think you are better than other parts of the military? Is this part of the brainwashing to make US Marines feel "special" so they can be controlled more? Is it typically the less intelligent members of the armed forces who become marines?
I'm not trying to fuck with you. It's just a bit strange that US Marines seem the most robotic and Ooohh Haaa obidient and sempir fi "special". Reminds me of the way we treat retarded kids nowadays ("You are a special little guy timmy" etc ) In Heart Break Ridge this was parodied to great effect.
great movie lol very underrated. too much use of the word f a gg ot for todays standard perhaps
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All of my tests scores in life are 85% I had MOS of my choice (MP and SWAT)
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All of my tests scores in life are 85% I had MOS of my choice (MP and SWAT)
u should go be a merc, make lotta $$ 950/day
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So do you think being a Marine is any better than being a normal soldier or sailor or airman?
Why do you think you are better than other parts of the military? Is this part of the brainwashing to make US Marines feel "special" so they can be controlled more? Is it typically the less intelligent members of the armed forces who become marines?
I'm not trying to fuck with you. It's just a bit strange that US Marines seem the most robotic and Ooohh Haaa obidient and sempir fi "special". Reminds me of the way we treat retarded kids nowadays ("You are a special little guy timmy" etc ) In Heart Break Ridge this was parodied to great effect.
I haven't served, but as far as I know the Army is basically like the Boy Scouts. Being a Marine is more of an achievement.
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State Police spokesperson Lt. Paul Vance, who was on the scene, said he was disgusted by the conspiracy theories. ”There’s no hoax. I was there. I stepped over the dead children. That’s no hoax. And it’s offensive to me as an investigator, and it’s offensive to the families who lost their babies to have people come up with silliness like this. Whatever their reasoning is, whatever their rationale is, it’s just terribly offensive,” Vance added.
Why aren’t the adults sadder? “They aren’t behaving the way human beings would act,” as conspiracy theorist Jay Weidner told fellow conspiracy theorist Jeff Rense on his radio show. Theorists have zeroed in on Robbie Parker, who they say wasn’t grieving hard enough for his slain 6-year-old daughter, Emilie. In one widely circulated clip, Parker laughs before stepping up to the microphone, and apparently someone says “read from the card” (as in cue card) before Parker breathes heavily in anticipation of beginning a press conference. “This is what actors do to get into character,” one popular YouTube video states. Rense and Weidner also take issue with the mourning of the school nurse, the family of slain teacher Victoria Soto, and others. “ALL ACTORS??? NO TEARS,” wonders the author of SandyHookHoax.com on a page featuring videos with numerous interviews from the shooting.
Answer: People mourn in many different ways, sometimes all at once. As a recent Scientific American article on gref noted, “oscillation between sadness and mirth repeated itself in study after study … Time and again, a grief-stricken person’s expression would change from dejection to laughter and back.” George Bonanno, a psychologist at Columbia University who studies grief, even developed a way to determine if this mourner’s laughter was genuine or merely a facade to hide grief — he determined that they “exhibited the real thing.” Scientists think this is part of our internal resilience mechanisms kicking in, because constant grief is simply too much for a person to handle.
What about Emilie? One of the most common myths circulated on message boards and in YouTube videos is that Emilie Parker is actually alive. The “proof” is a photo purportedly showing her with President Obama when he visited the school after the shooting. Conspiracists know it’s Emilie because she’s wearing the same dress as the one Emilie wore in a family portrait taken before the shooting (an alternative theory is that the girl in the photo with Obama is her “double”). Other websites take issue with the family portrait, alleging it was Photoshopped for some reason, pointing to the fact that the Emilie is making a “devil’s horns” sign with her hands and “making the devil’s horn hand sign isn’t easy. Try it yourself. Imagine getting a 3- and 4-year-old do it.”
Answer: The girl on Obama’s lap is Emilie’s little sister. It’s amazing that we have to say this, but sometimes younger siblings wear clothes passed down to them from older siblings, and sometimes siblings look alike because they are siblings. And there’s no evidence or even motive given for why the portrait would be Photoshopped. Making a “devil’s horn” gesture is actually incredibly easy. Try it yourself.
Why do they all look the same? Numerous websites juxtapose pictures of people from Newtown against pictures of similar looking people from Aurora, Colo., and assert they are the same actors.
Answer: Not all women with brown hair are the same person.
But what about the rifle? Alleged shooter Adam Lanza used a Bushmaster AR-15 assault rifle as his primary weapon, but conspiracist have seized on footage of police removing a long gun from the trunk of Lanza’s car. “This reveals the ‘Big Lie’ of the mainstream media … the Bushmaster AR-15 rifle was left in Lanza’s car,” conspiracy website NaturalNews states in a story picked up by Alex Jones’ InfoWars this week.
Answer: Actually, the gun shown being removed from Lanza’s car was a shotgun he never used. Lanza brought three guns inside the school — the AR-15 and two handguns — all of which were found inside the school.
How come the memorial pages were created before the shooting? One of the most cited pieces of “hard evidence” in the hoax theory is that memorial pages for the victims were allegedly created before the shooting even took place. Theorists point to Google results giving dates before the shooting for various pages.
Answer: Actually, this is a very common glitch for constricted-date Google searches. The results are imprecise and can often display incorrect dates on the search page, even when the date on the actual page is correct when you click through to it. For instance, here’s a Fox News story on the Sandy Hook shooting that Google says is from Oct. 1, 1983 — how come Fox News didn’t stop the shooting if it had 30 years advance notice???
What about the car? Early on, theorists latched on to the notion that the black Honda Accord driven by Lanza was not actually owned by his mother, as police say, but by a man named Chris Rodia, who was mentioned on a police scanner at the time of the shooting. One theory is that Rodia may have been an additional shooter. An even more advanced theory is that Rodia may have been taking advantage of mentally ill people like Lanza and using drugs to make them do his bidding.
Answer: This one was debunked by the theorists themselves just a few days after the shooting. BeforeItsNews, a conspiracy website, obtained the police audio definitively debunking the myth (Rodia appeared on the scanner because he was getting pulled over in a traffic stop miles away, but his license plate doesn’t match Lanza’s car). “This was a huge blow, because lots of people were making big leaps on this … but we now have to look elsewhere,” another amateur investigator said on YouTube.
What about the man in the woods? Central to proving any conspiracy theory is finding co-conspirators, which in this case means multiple shooters. Theorists have seized on helicopter footage of a man getting chased by police through the woods behind the school as evidence there was more than one shooter. Who is this man?
Answer: It was Chris Manfredonia, the father of a 6-year-old who attends the school. He was on his way to the school to make gingerbread houses with first-graders when he heard gunfire and smelled sulfur, so he ran.
But there was another man in the woods (maybe): Eyewitnesses saw a second man in the woods wearing camouflage pants and a dark jacket, and said that he may have been armed. Must be a second shooter.
Answer: Actually, he was, according to the Newtown Bee, “an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town” who heard the gunfire.
What about the third man at the firehouse? Children fleeing the school said they saw a man pinned down on the ground in handcuffs outside the firehouse. Could this be a second or third shooter?
Answer: No, like Manfredonia, this man was briefly detained by police in the hectic aftermath, but quickly released when it was determined he was just a passerby, Connecticut State Police spokesperson Lt. Paul Vance, who was on the scene, confirmed to Salon. “Were there other people detained? The answer is yes. In the height of battle, until you’ve determined who, what, when, where and why of everyone in existence … that’s not unusual,” Vance said.
Then why did some eyewitnesses report multiple shooters? Theorizers have parsed conflicting media reports and interviews with eyewitnesses saying they saw multiple shooters. How could they be wrong?
Answer: In the stress and confusion of a situation like a mass shooting, misreporting is not just common, but the rule. And there’s a reason eyewitnesses are viewed so skeptically in criminal court cases: They often get things wrong. The Supreme Court has called eyewitness testimony “notoriously unreliable” while the Innocence Project says ”eyewitness misidentification is the single greatest cause of wrongful convictions.” Yet theorists would have you believe that a small handful of media interviews with people on the scene trumps all the other interviews with people there and police and media reports.
What about that Gene Rosen guy? Theorists have fixated on Rosen’s account of that day and harassed him for it. Rosen sheltered six children during the shooting, but theorists have alternately claimed that Rosen’s accounts are suspiciously too consistent in various interviews he gave, or suspiciously inconsistent. Other people claim Rosen was an actor, because they claim he is a member of the Screen Actors Guild. And what happened to the bus driver? Why did Rosen sit with the kids for hours? Why didn’t he take them to the firehouse down the street where authorities were staging?
Answer: Rosen did invite the bus driver inside and she helped him contact their parents. An early AP report erroneously reported that he sat with the kids for hours, but he told us that the children were only inside his house for about 35 minutes. He did call their parents. Four parents came right away and Rosen took the remaining two to the fire station. Rosen is not a member of SAG (that’s a different Gene Rosen, who is seven years younger).
But how was the dead principal quoted? Theorists seized on a quote on the shooting in the Newtown Bee from a Sandy Hook principal Dawn Hochsprung, who died in the shooting. How could she have been quoted if she “died”?
Answer: The Bee quickly posted a retraction and an apology: “An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the school’s principal, Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the Friday morning attack.” Things are confusing in the aftermath.
What about the LIBOR connection? Early theories posited that the fathers of both Lanza and alleged Aurora shooter James Holmes were set to testify before the Senate on the (real) LIBOR banking scandal. Could bankers have been involved in the shooting to discredit the supposedly explosive testimony set to be given by these two men?
Answer: This one falls apart in just about every way and the hardcore theorists abandoned it weeks ago as a bogus. Ben Swann, the Ohio TV reporter who thinks there were probably multiple shooters at Sandy Hook, investigated and determined there was “no evidence” to support any of the assumptions in the LIBOR theory. TPM also looked into it and found it to be “100% false.” There are no LIBOR hearings scheduled, neither man was selected as a witness, and neither man is in much of a position to deliver an explosive testimony on the scandal anyway.
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/18/your_comprehensive_answer_to_every_sandy_hook_conspiracy_theory/ (http://www.salon.com/2013/01/18/your_comprehensive_answer_to_every_sandy_hook_conspiracy_theory/)
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08:39 Mark
WHY IS HE LAUGHING AND JOKING?
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08:39 Mark
WHY IS HE LAUGHING AND JOKING?
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08:39 Mark
WHY IS HE LAUGHING AND JOKING?
cause he doesnt give a fuck, his getting paid
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cause he doesnt give a fuck, his getting paid
Dollar dollar bills yall
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He is totally joking and then looks scared when he realizes he is on live. Turns 100% to sad and crying.
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People mourn in different ways may ass. I have yet to see one tear from any of the parents. Everything may be true but it's just damn weird.
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People mourn in different ways may ass. I have yet to see one tear from any of the parents. Everything may be true but it's just damn weird.
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Boom!
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what about the crisis drill that was being done just 2 miles away at the other elementary, this has psyop false flag written over it, many americans are waking up and are coming out of their mk ultra brainwashing states that has been imposed by the mainstream i meant lame stream media, too bad you too are still asleep, ohh did you vote for barry soetoro aka barack obama.
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It does NOT make ANY sense.
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Are there any civilian videos up on YouTube? There doesn't seem to be one video from anyone who was there other than the news crews? Honestly you would think there would be quite a few of people taping the mayhem with their iPhones.
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Great point. NO smart phones there. Hmmm?
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YouTube has a lot to answer for.
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What a jerk... Who but this fucking asshole steps over Dead Children and Brags about it ??? ???
i dont even step over a crack in fear of breaking my mommas back
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The USA is SO shady.
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Great point. NO smart phones there. Hmmm?
Seriously today if someone trips over their own feet you got 10 people who caught you on film and its up on YouTube in seconds. With all these people walking around not one was filming? Cops cars ambulances fire trucks and no one catches any of it on film?
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Seriously today if someone trips over their own feet you got 10 people who caught you on film and its up on YouTube in seconds. With all these people walking around not one was filming? Cops cars ambulances fire trucks and no one catches any of it on film?
Bada Boom
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He is totally joking and then looks scared when he realizes he is on live. Turns 100% to sad and crying.
I know looked fucken weird for a guy whose daughter was executed..or was she..seriously not give a fuck about sandy hook anymore, more interested in the NBA.
Told everyone, the media blew this up immediately, every teacher became a hero, last time i checked heroes lived, there punk asses got shot dead.
Teachers reportedly dived matrix style to save the little kids from the bullets..Fail, teacher got dead, and the kids never recovered..anyhow who is winning Superbowl?
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Seriously today if someone trips over their own feet you got 10 people who caught you on film and its up on YouTube in seconds. With all these people walking around not one was filming? Cops cars ambulances fire trucks and no one catches any of it on film?
BOOOOOM!! great post Disgusted.
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I hope NE.
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People mourn in different ways may ass. I have yet to see one tear from any of the parents. Everything may be true but it's just damn weird.
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Boom!
I am skeptic about Sandy Hook of course but just did a search and found this photo of the McDonnells.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/19/article-2250340-169362DD000005DC-125_634x423.jpg)
And from the happy interview with (whore) cooper right after the shooting:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/19/article-0-16933126000005DC-260_634x365.jpg)
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I hope NE.
Yes NE, I dont know jack about NFL but i always place money on the superbowl
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The USA is SO shady.
Worse than China. In China you know they are shady - they are upfront about it. In USA its crocodile tears all the way.
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crocodile tears all the way.
I have seen people mourn, they are uncontrollable, they falling on the floor and in hysterics.
sandy hook motherfuckers were on there phones updating there facebook status "My daughter was shot dead" LIKE THIS
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I am skeptic about Sandy Hook of course but just did a search and found this photo of the McDonnells.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/19/article-2250340-169362DD000005DC-125_634x423.jpg)
And from the happy interview with (whore) cooper right after the shooting:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/19/article-0-16933126000005DC-260_634x365.jpg)
no tears or wet eyes in all those pics
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Parents need to go back to Tim Dibley acting school
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What about all these football players who play the game of their lives the day or day after someone close to them dies?
Happens often.
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What about all these football players who play the game of their lives the day or day after someone close to them dies?
Happens often.
They do it in their honor. But they still have tears!
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no tears or wet eyes in all those pics
True! Very fucking strange.
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They do it in their honor. But they still have tears!
According to you they shouldn't be able to function.
Millions of people hear about a death and drive through the night before they get to start to mourn.
Besides that where the fuck are all these kids then? At disneyworld?
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9/11 shady
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People mourn in different ways may ass. I have yet to see one tear from any of the parents. Everything may be true but it's just damn weird.
A man with integrity has spoken. 13milion views on youtube for a reason: actors make good fake events.
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Seriously today if someone trips over their own feet you got 10 people who caught you on film and its up on YouTube in seconds. With all these people walking around not one was filming? Cops cars ambulances fire trucks and no one catches any of it on film?
what people are you talking about? The people who live around the school? The teachers etc?
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According to you they shouldn't be able to function.
Millions of people hear about a death and drive through the night before they get to start to mourn.
Besides that where the fuck are all these kids then? At disneyworld?
I never said that.
Where are all the kids? Who knows? Maybe they are at Disney World? I don't know. All I know is there are no tears and that is fucking strange.
Where's the surveillance video of lanza or holmes? Any? I know nobody wants to see kids get shot but a hallway video or entrance video before shooting will be nice.
The way the media an politicians jumped all over this after the shooting to promote gun control is a total red flag. Your chances of getting killed in a mass shooting is so small you are more likely to die in a car accident many times over.
This is not about protecting the public it is about disarming them. And the criminals would still have their weapons.
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what people are you talking about? The people who live around the school? The teachers etc?
Anyone? Not one civilian video. The media interviewed lots of people but none of them (hundreds?) bothered to use their cell phone to capture this terrible event.
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NOT ONE.
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Anyone? Not one civilian video. The media interviewed lots of people but none of them (hundreds?) bothered to use their cell phone to capture this terrible event.
A simple look a google maps tells you exactly why there are no videos from outside the school.
The school is on a deadend road surrounded by grassed areas with trees. Once the shooting started and the 911 calls went out everyone who could get out of the school ran for their lives down and around the road coming into the school in which the firehouse is on the corner. You can't see the school from the firehouse or vice versa. Once all the cops arrived they obviously blocked access to the school via that road.
There are no houses across the street, no buildings looking down on the school, no passing traffic, nothing.
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A simple look a google maps tells you exactly why there are no videos from outside the school.
The school is on a deadend road surrounded by grassed areas with trees. Once the shooting started and the 911 calls went out everyone who could get out of the school ran for their lives down and around the road coming into the school in which the firehouse is on the corner. You can't see the school from the firehouse or vice versa. Once all the cops arrived they obviously blocked access to the school via that road.
There are no houses across the street, no buildings looking down on the school, no passing traffic, nothing.
Perfect location to stage a Fake Massacre, no way in , on way out, cops can let media in and set up once actors are ready to act
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Perfect location to stage a Fake Massacre, no way in , on way out, cops can let media in and set up once actors are ready to act
so you are in the there are no dead kids at all camp?
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A simple look a google maps tells you exactly why there are no videos from outside the school.
The school is on a deadend road surrounded by grassed areas with trees. Once the shooting started and the 911 calls went out everyone who could get out of the school ran for their lives down and around the road coming into the school in which the firehouse is on the corner. You can't see the school from the firehouse or vice versa. Once all the cops arrived they obviously blocked access to the school via that road.
There are no houses across the street, no buildings looking down on the school, no passing traffic, nothing.
Ah no. There are plenty of news clips of the media talking to adults and children some of them look to be near the school
Also I remember one guy who was talking about the guy in the woods who got apprehended by the police and he mentions that this guy is sitting in the front of the police car. He points to the police car or nods in the general direction but the news cameras don't pan over there and why didn't this guy or anyone else video him as he was brought to the police car?? Apparently this guy (the one dressed in camo) told all the people who was standing their as he was being led by them that he didn't do it. So no one bothered to film this???? Not even the media?? very odd something this important was not filmed. No one knew at the time but this guy could have been the killer and to this day no one even knows the guys name.
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so you are in the there are no dead kids at all camp?
I have not really chose a side yet of it all fake or just agenda ar-15 fake
What I do know is all I hear is gun control and nothing about retarded kid control or Prozac control
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Ah no. There are plenty of news clips of the media talking to adults and children some of them look to be near the school
Also I remember one guy who was talking about the guy in the woods who got apprehended by the police and he mentions that this guy is sitting in the front of the police car. He points to the police car or nods in the general direction but the news cameras don't pan over there and why didn't this guy or anyone else video him as he was brought to the police car?? Apparently this guy told all the people who was standing their as he was being led by them that he didn't do it. So no one bothered to film this???? Not even the media?? very odd something this important was not filmed. No one knew at the time but this guy could have been the killer and to this day no one even knows the guys name.
dude the media didn't get there within 5 minutes.
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Here's two pics of me to put you in your place Tough Bikie Dude! That should be enough for now for your Wank bank
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dude the media didn't get there within 5 minutes.
What's your point? They were there fast enough to film this guy running into the woods and when he was still in police custody sitting in the front seat of police car. So everything I said is valid. Doesn't matter when they got there.
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What's your point? They were there fast enough to film this guy running into the woods and when he was still in police custody sitting in the front seat of police car. So everything I said is valid. Doesn't matter when they got there.
There are plenty of news clips on YouTube showing that the road was closed off and that the parents had to meet their kids at the fire station. There was no media beyond the fire station.
I have seen the clip of the guy saying there is a guy they got out of the woods in that cop car over there. I also know he was saying to the parents as he was being walked out of the woods he had nothing to do with it. The parents were all at the fire station and not beyond it. That was the meeting point and that's where this guy was brought out of the woods not right near the school. 3 people were arrested in the woods nearby I have read.
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There are plenty of news clips on YouTube showing that the road was closed off and that the parents had to meet their kids at the fire station. There was no media beyond the fire station.
I have seen the clip of the guy saying there is a guy they got out of the woods in that cop car over there. I also know he was saying to the parents as he was being walked out of the woods he had nothing to do with it. The parents were all at the fire station and not beyond it. That was the meeting point and that's where this guy was brought out of the woods not right near the school. 3 people were arrested in the woods nearby I have read.
I hear ya but why didn't anyone video anything? Not even anyone else filming the media interviewing people or the children?
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I hear ya but why didn't anyone video anything? Not even anyone else filming the media interviewing people or the children?
Who says they didn't? Good luck finding it with all the wacko's videos filling up YouTube though.
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Shady.
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Who says they didn't? Good luck finding it with all the wacko's videos filling up YouTube though.
Actually there aren't that many. Many people are just posting the same media vids over and over.
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It's good to see so many awake. Greetings brothers. :)
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It's good to see so many awake. Greetings brothers. :)
Qft.
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SHADY
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Whiny Aussie dicksucker still sniveling and getting his panties in a knot
You are a liar, no one gives a shit about your psychotic anti-gun temper tantrums. I seriously wish the pitbulls would have gotten to your throat you whiny kunt
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Actually there aren't that many. Many people are just posting the same media vids over and over.
Some of the network footage is definitely from cell phone cameras so they would have paid people for that stuff. Pretty boring though just loads of cars around the firehouse and people talking on their phones.
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Why hasn't the brother of father of the killer talked or been on mainstream shows being interviewed???
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Why hasn't the brother of father of the killer talked or been on mainstream shows being interviewed???
They are rich why would they?
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They are rich why would they?
I see
So the dead kids parents are not and need to keep acting in order to continue getting paid , gotcha
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I see
So the dead kids parents are not and need to keep acting in order to continue getting paid , gotcha
So are they the real parents or not? You need to figure out your story and stick to it.
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So are they the real parents or not? You need to figure out your story and stick to it.
You have me leaning toward actors now with the suggestion that the Father of the killer has no reason to explain himself for his parenting of this so Called mass murdering psychopath
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You have me leaning toward actors now with the suggestion that the Father of the killer has no reason to explain himself for his parenting of this so Called mass murdering psychopath
Oh yeah, this proves the shootings were fake ::)
Maybe he's not an attention whore and has no interest on being on fucking "oprah" ?..he's a professional and a millionaire.
I see a lot of people here just pulling assumptions right out of there ass...but not one person has shown a single piece of video that PROVES a fucking thing, it's the old " This is what happened because I say so" routiine. Wouldn't stand up in a court of law.
Meanwhile E-kule, even though he is a well known sniffer of men's asses...has posted mostly FACTS and common sense, not gigantic assumptions.. that shoot holes in all of these idiotic arguments
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Man, after reading this thread I am seriously wondering about the mental health of the average Getbigger, amazingly GROINK is one of the few GETBIGGERS with a level head on his shoulders, I underestimated the Big man.
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Meanwhile E-kule, a well known sniffer of men's asses...
GROINK is one of the few GETBIGGERS with a level head on his shoulders, I underestimated the Big man.
You couldn't make this stuff up... ;D
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why would anyone fake this?
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why would anyone fake this?
The only group that really benefits from mass shooting is the NRA. The conspiracy theories could be a conspiracy to cover up the NRA's orchestration of such events! ;D
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The only group that really benefits from mass shooting is the NRA. The conspiracy theories could be a conspiracy to cover up the NRA's orchestration of such events! ;D
hahaha!!! what a terrified little guy you are!!! :o
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I never said that.
Where are all the kids? Who knows? Maybe they are at Disney World? I don't know. All I know is there are no tears and that is fucking strange.
Where's the surveillance video of lanza or holmes? Any? I know nobody wants to see kids get shot but a hallway video or entrance video before shooting will be nice.
The way the media an politicians jumped all over this after the shooting to promote gun control is a total red flag. Your chances of getting killed in a mass shooting is so small you are more likely to die in a car accident many times over.
This is not about protecting the public it is about disarming them. And the criminals would still have their weapons.
Yes very convenient to have things such as this happen when you are trying to pass gun ban laws. Very convenient indeed...
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hahaha!!! what a terrified little guy you are!!! :o
Says the man who cannot live without a cache of guns because he is constantly afraid of home invasion or his government going rogue and tyrannising the population. Gun Nutters lack even the most basic self awareness.
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Says the man who cannot live without a cache of guns because he is constantly afraid of home invasion or his government going rogue and tyrannising the population. Gun Nutters lack even the most basic self awareness.
ahahhahahahahahahaha!!! meltdown!! ;D
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If it was about gun control surely they would make sure these incidents didn't happen or get reported so that people would feel safe and as such stop buying guns.
After all these shooting incidents sales of guns and ammo goes up.
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the rumors about Sandy Hook really make me realize how silly most of these conspiracy theorists are
the reason I say this is I work in EMS in CT and was dispatched to the call and heard everything coming over the state ce-med radio, I was cancelled en route but a couple of the rigs from our company did make it up there and staged outside.
not only that but my buddy lives in newtown and is a middle school teacher there and his child attends 1st grade at the elementary school and was evacuated. His wife was actually going to help out his class that day and was walking in when shit just started popping off and cops were taking kids out of the building
I don't expect to convince anyone with this post because long ago I learned people have amazing abilities of self-delusion---just sharing my perspective on the idiocy of people
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The best way to deal with crackpot conspiracy theorists is to not deal with them.
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The best way to deal with crackpot conspiracy theorists is to not deal with them.
agreed---more sharing my amusement than anything else
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I know looked fucken weird for a guy whose daughter was executed..or was she..seriously not give a fuck about sandy hook anymore, more interested in the NBA.
Told everyone, the media blew this up immediately, every teacher became a hero, last time i checked heroes lived, there punk asses got shot dead.
Teachers reportedly dived matrix style to save the little kids from the bullets..Fail, teacher got dead, and the kids never recovered..anyhow who is winning Superbowl?
Actually you've got it backwards. Cowards live (seek to save their own lives, fuck anyone else), heroes die trying to protect others. Very few real LIVING heroes.
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conspiracy theorists
Sheeps
(http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/family-photo.jpg)
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Sheeps
(http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/family-photo.jpg)
Just another happy funeral nothing to see here
Move along
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that funeral pic is sooo fucking weird.
perfectly normal though! ::)
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Why are they all so happy?
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Why are they all so happy?
They are getting fat paychecks every time they act - wouldn't you?! If they don't want the money and break their silence they will die of an unexpected heart attack or commit suicide because they can't bare the loss anymore.
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They are getting fat paychecks every time they act - wouldn't you?! If they don't want the money and break their silence they will die of an unexpected heart attack or commit suicide because they can't bare the loss anymore.
cmon now the government would NEVER do something like this! ::)
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Where is that pic from?
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cmon now the government would NEVER do something like this! ::)
I know, they would never. They're good good people! ;)
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(http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f10/156441d1271891753-whats-he-smiling-about-why.jpg)
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Where is that pic from?
Sandy Hook funeral.
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wow ^
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You guys are funny.....you are kidding right? :D
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wow ^
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Sandy Hook funeral.
Not sure who the victim is, but I have been to funerals before where people are not too sad and smiling. They have always been with someone who has led a long life. I have been to some that were of children and even young adults and I've never seen anyone from the immediate family smile like that and take a group photo. Oh well, everyone is different I guess.
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sorry, that picture just really speaks to me
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(http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/family-photo.jpg)
is this real world or exercise?
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Who's in the coffin?
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Who's in the coffin?
some kid
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some kid
;D OK. It kinda looked like an adult coffin but you prob are right. I don't recognize any of these people from other photos so now we can add to the list another crew of smiling idiots.
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People that accept what the media and government tell them at face value without question kinda scare me. :-\
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it has to be a fake, the coffin does look adult size, disgusted it right.
It must be photoshopped, i maybe wrong but it seems the smiling people are at a wedding.
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Considering a 30 second Google search puts Russon Brothers in Utah, I would assume that pic has nothing to do with Sandy Hook.
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Considering a 30 second Google search puts Russon Brothers in Utah, I would assume that pic has nothing to do with Sandy Hook.
yep, i was googling the same thing
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Sandy Hook funeral.
you're a fucker ;D
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Considering a 30 second Google search puts Russon Brothers in Utah, I would assume that pic has nothing to do with Sandy Hook.
You fucking asshole , you just debunked my mini conspiracy theory ,don't fuck with me cone head.
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This was obviously a false flag operation.
Case closed.
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Not sure who the victim is, but I have been to funerals before where people are not too sad and smiling. They have always been with someone who has led a long life. I have been to some that were of children and even young adults and I've never seen anyone from the immediate family smile like that and take a group photo. Oh well, everyone is different I guess.
MAYBE A SCIENTOLOGY FUNERAL....OR DO THEY GET U.F.O 'D AWAY,,,,
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You fucking asshole , you just debunked my mini conspiracy theory ,don't fuck with me cone head.
Meltdown ???
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That funeral in Utah is for an old person I bet. If someone lives to a ripe old age they don't tend to be very sad affairs except for their immediate children. Everyone else probably came into some money so they ain't sad!
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17 pages of potato.
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Remarkable Resemblance Of Sandy Hook Victims And Professional Crisis Actors
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/01/remarkable-resemblance-of-sandy-hook-victims-and-professional-crisis-actors-2557294.html
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I'll cut to the chase, if you think Sandy Hook was a government set up with actors, you're a moron. If you think we didn't really go to the moon over 40 yrs ago, you're a moron. Hope this helps..
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If you thought for one second that an assault weapon was used in sandy hook you are a moron and should just live on the moon
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If you thought for one second that an assault weapon was used in sandy hook you are a moron and should just live on the moon
The killer shot each victim about 4 to 8 times over in the matter of a few moments.
That is an assault gun or assault rifle. Not a revolver.
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as·sault (-sôlt)
n.
1. A violent physical or verbal attack.
2.
a. A military attack, such as one launched against a fortified area or place.
b. The concluding stage of an attack in which close combat occurs with the enemy.
3. Law
a. An unlawful threat or attempt to do bodily injury to another.
b. The act or an instance of unlawfully threatening or attempting to injure another.
4.
a. Law Sexual assault.
b. The crime of rape.
v. as·sault·ed, as·sault·ing, as·saults
v.tr.
1. To make an assault upon; attack. See Synonyms at attack.
2. To rape.
v.intr.
To make an assault.
[Middle English assaut, from Old French, from Vulgar Latin *assaltus, variant of Latin assultus, from past participle of assilre, to jump on; see assail.]
as·saulter n.
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The killer shot each victim about 4 to 8 times over in the matter of a few moments.
That is an assault gun or assault rifle. Not a revolver.
Who said anything about a revolver? ???
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All that has been proven is that America has a piss poor Media and Journalism news system. I think it's called Amateur Hour!
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All that has been proven is that America has a piss poor Media and Journalism news system. I think it's called Amateur Hour!
I will agree with you on this. However, I don't think you can say it's only America. Media world wide operates this way. Smut sells. :D
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Who said anything about a revolver? ???
I believe the term "assault" gun or "assault" rifle is used to mean high capacity.
When you can hit that many victims, that many times, in so few moments, that is by definition, high capacity.
I'm comparing it to what many of us grew up understanding re. capacity, i.e. revolvers.
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I believe the term "assault" gun or "assault" rifle is used to mean high capacity.
When you can hit that many victims, that many times, in so few moments, that is by definition, high capacity.
I'm comparing it to what many of us grew up understanding re. capacity, i.e. revolvers.
Many of todays pistols have high capacity as well. An XDM9 has a capacity of 19+1. Glocks can be had with optional 33+1 mags. If 4 pistols were recovered in the school, then I think it's plausible that each student was shot 4-8 times. 4 pistols with 34 rounds each = 136 rounds. :D
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Amazing that an unskilled, untrained shooter could hit such small, moving targets so many times.
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Amazing that an unskilled, untrained shooter could hit such small, moving targets so many times.
moving...... ::)
You only believe things you observe? Is the earlth flat or round?
There are people who believe the earth is flat.
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moving...... ::)
You only believe things you observe? Is the earlth flat or round?
There are people who believe the earth is flat.
Are you saying all those kids and adults just laid there ???
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moving...... ::)
You only believe things you observe? Is the earlth flat or round?
There are people who believe the earth is flat.
probably the same people that believe in god
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Are you saying all those kids and adults just laid there ???
I don't need to analyze extreme shock and fear.
I'll leave that to you to dissect. It sickens me a little too much.
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Are you saying all those kids and adults just laid there ???
Actually, I thought the original reports said that they were hiding in closets? So yes, they were just laying there. He basically opened the closet doors and unloaded on the occupants inside.
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Actually, I thought the original reports said that they were hiding in closets? So yes, they were just laying there. He basically opened the closet doors and unloaded on the occupants inside.
You ever scare a little kid playing hide and seek?
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Amazing that an unskilled, untrained shooter could hit such small, moving targets so many times.
Yeah, because he was scoring headshots with a pistol 200 yds away as the kids were running around a field. Just amazing!
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You ever scare a little kid playing hide and seek?
No. ???
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wiggs is a horrible person to have arguing for this because of his mayan calendar fail.
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You ever scare a little kid playing hide and seek?
WTF?
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wiggs is a horrible person to have arguing for this because of his mayan calendar fail.
Everyone deserves a second chance, Taylor.
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I'll cut to the chase, if you think Sandy Hook was a government set up with actors, you're a moron. If you think we didn't really go to the moon over 40 yrs ago, you're a moron. Hope this helps..
where are you getting your information from? ???
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Haha america being fooled again and again.
People wonder why the world hates America
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where are you getting your information from? ???
Dana White! " There's a bunch of people that buy into that shit and believe that stuff. "
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Dana White! " There's a bunch of people that buy into that shit and believe that stuff. "
:D :D
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If this was a conspiracy, the people involved MUST be the most deranged, sociopathic and EVIL individuals ever created. Better explanation, it actually happened, and it has devastated an entire community and the average American who doesn't believe it is a low grade moron with the problem solving skills of a brick. If they really were concerned about the incident, they would go and investigate for themselves, because if the event truly did happen, their could be no greater offensive suggestion than to deny or minimise such a tragedy. Before you insult and offend people who have suffered unimaginable losses, at least take the time to travel down to Sandy Hook and investigate for yourselves, you cold hearted psychotic imbeciles. If I truly believed my GOVERNMENT was pulling some really EVIL SHIT, I would be on the first bus to said destination and making some pretty serious enquiries.
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If this was a conspiracy, the people involved MUST be the most deranged, sociopathic and EVIL individuals ever created. Better explanation, it actually happened, and it has devastated an entire community and the average American who doesn't believe it is a low grade moron with the problem solving skills of a brick. If they really were concerned about the incident, they would go and investigate for themselves, because if the event truly did happen, their could be no greater offensive suggestion than to deny or minimise such a tragedy. Before you insult and offend people who have suffered unimaginable losses, at least take the time to travel down to Sandy Hook and investigate for yourselves, you cold hearted psychotic imbeciles. If I truly believed my GOVERNMENT was pulling some really EVIL SHIT, I would be on the first bus to said destination and making some pretty serious enquiries.
kul they are not 'sociopathic' they are PSYCHOPATHIC, which are a million times more dangerous. and most people have never met anyone this evil and probably never will so they think these people simply don't exist and aren't capable of such heinous things. they are naive its not their fault.
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I've never paid attention to this conspiracy theory. But this is WEIRD.
Recently released FBI crime statistics curiously show that no murders occurred in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012, despite reports that numerous schoolchildren and faculty members were slaughtered during a shooting rampage in December of that year.
Infowars links to the FBI website, the numbers are right there. Weird.
http://www.infowars.com/fbi-says-no-one-killed-at-sandy-hook/
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Epic thread bumpage
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That's the thing about the Internet ... some of the information out there is a bunch of shit.
I live in CT. Real kids were killed, had funerals and were buried.
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That's the thing about the Internet ... some of the information out there is a bunch of shit.
I live in CT. Real kids were killed, had funerals and were buried.
You may be right...But without open caskets, you are just going by what you are being told.
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I've never paid attention to this conspiracy theory. But this is WEIRD.
Recently released FBI crime statistics curiously show that no murders occurred in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012, despite reports that numerous schoolchildren and faculty members were slaughtered during a shooting rampage in December of that year.
Infowars links to the FBI website, the numbers are right there. Weird.
http://www.infowars.com/fbi-says-no-one-killed-at-sandy-hook/
So, the powers that be set up the whole thing and hired actors to play the parts of grieving relatives, arranged fake funerals, televised all the interviews of the actors multiple times knowing that one mistake would expose the whole facade.
Tell me, wouldnt it be easier to just shoot some kids?
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That's the thing about the Internet ... some of the information out there is a bunch of shit.
I live in CT. Real kids were killed, had funerals and were buried.
There were so many flaws with this case. So many.
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There were so many flaws with this case. So many.
No. No there weren't. Like I said, the Internet can be a bunch of shit. Combine that with the speed of cable "news" these days and you get your "flaws."
Not going to sit here and type, but this should help you resolve all of the "flaws"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/11/sandy-hook-hoax-theories-explained-debunking-newtown-truther_n_2627233.html
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No. No there weren't. Like I said, the Internet can be a bunch of shit. Combine that with the speed of cable "news" these days and you get your "flaws."
Not going to sit here and type, but this should help you resolve all of the "flaws"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/11/sandy-hook-hoax-theories-explained-debunking-newtown-truther_n_2627233.html
Let me rephrase that for him.
The news fucked the facts up so many times that no one knows what to believe.
Couple that with politicians piggy backing their agendas onto it and muddying facts up more to fit their narratives, and you have a situation where no one knows wtf really happened, because everyones gotta have their hand in the story to try and get something out of it.
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That, too. Exactly.
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Journalist Foley sister and brother
Alex Isreal , Adam Lansa's Classmate , Sandy Hook shooter
Same Female ??? ???
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Intredasting...
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Not the same girl but this Alex character obviously did not know the Adam kid and numb nuts asked her the same question over and over but using different words each time.
I am NOT a conspiracy theorist, but I remember watching this live on TV and after a few minutes I got this weird feeling that I was watching a poorly made movie of the week on Lifetime. Things seem scripted. I saw a very young boy being interviewed which I thought was weird. Why in the Hell would a parent let their 8 year old boy be interviewed like that right after a bunch of kids get slaughtered??? As a parent I would have whisked my kids away as fast as possible, NOT let them "hang out".
I also wondered where all the ambulances were? I mean yeah they were all dead supposedly, BUT it is standard protocol to the the EMT and no one there I am sure had the experience or the authority to pronounce anyone dead at the scene? What if by chance one of them was still breathing?? WTF!!
I'm not even going to get into the parents inviting news crews into their homes the very next day to talk about the dead child who was gunned down heartlessly and not she one fucking tear?
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Not the same girl but this Alex character obviously did not know the Adam kid and numb nuts asked her the same question over and over but using different words each time.
I am NOT a conspiracy theorist, but I remember watching this live on TV and after a few minutes I got this weird feeling that I was watching a poorly made movie of the week on Lifetime. Things seem scripted. I saw a very young boy being interviewed which I thought was weird. Why in the Hell would a parent let their 8 year old boy be interviewed like that right after a bunch of kids get slaughtered??? As a parent I would have whisked my kids away as fast as possible, NOT let them "hang out".
I also wondered where all the ambulances were? I mean yeah they were all dead supposedly, BUT it is standard protocol to the the EMT and no one there I am sure had the experience or the authority to pronounce anyone dead at the scene? What if by chance one of them was still breathing?? WTF!!
I'm not even going to get into the parents inviting news crews into their homes the very next day to talk about the dead child who was gunned down heartlessly and not she one fucking tear?
there is no such thing as "normal behaviour" after a traumatic event.
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Let me rephrase that for him.
The news fucked the facts up so many times that no one knows what to believe.
Couple that with politicians piggy backing their agendas onto it and muddying facts up more to fit their narratives, and you have a situation where no one knows wtf really happened, because everyones gotta have their hand in the story to try and get something out of it.
Well, where would the righteous indignation of the Getbigger rush-to-judgment contingent find traction!? ;D
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So, the powers that be set up the whole thing and hired actors to play the parts of grieving relatives, arranged fake funerals, televised all the interviews of the actors multiple times knowing that one mistake would expose the whole facade.
Tell me, wouldnt it be easier to just shoot some kids?
No shit.
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No shit.
It always amazes me why these stories that people "think" happened are always way more fantastically difficult to put into practice than the alternative.
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It always amazes me why these stories that people "think" happened are always way more fantastically difficult to put into practice than the alternative.
Shouldn't do. Less intelligent people 'simply' can't fathom ambiguity, or contingencies so their minds make their own satisfying connections. Example one, Your Honor: Getbig political forum. ;D
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I've never paid attention to this conspiracy theory. But this is WEIRD.
Recently released FBI crime statistics curiously show that no murders occurred in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012, despite reports that numerous schoolchildren and faculty members were slaughtered during a shooting rampage in December of that year.
Infowars links to the FBI website, the numbers are right there. Weird.
http://www.infowars.com/fbi-says-no-one-killed-at-sandy-hook/
Here is a rule of thumb for you: If you heard/read/see it at infowars, it is completely bullshit. It is completely futile to seek truth from the nest of the stupidest foil hat imbeciles this planet has ever seen. Have you think even a second that there could be a reason why those statistics are like that, because PEOPLE DO MAKE ERRORS EVERY NOW AND THEN. I bet there is perfectly good and logical explanation for those statistics, but what is the reason for that vigorous spreading of bullshit, which infowars do? They get a living from that crap, that's all.
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there is no such thing as "normal behaviour" after a traumatic event.
Actually there is a set of "normal" behavioral parameters that a person will exhibit after such an event. Obviously they will fall within a certain range depending on the event and person. I personally have never seen someone who has lost a child and I have on a few occasions not show any type of grief or emotion let alone welcome a news reporter into their home to happily talk about their child as if nothing has happened.
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Actually there is a set of "normal" behavioral parameters that a person will exhibit after such an event. Obviously they will fall within a certain range depending on the event and person. I personally have never seen someone who has lost a child and I have on a few occasions not show any type of grief or emotion let alone welcome a news reporter into their home to happily talk about their child as if nothing has happened.
Does that mean it cant happen or has never happened?
Some people do cartwheels when they get arrested for murder (Amanda Knox)
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Does that mean it cant happen or has never happened?
Some people do cartwheels when they get arrested for murder (Amanda Knox)
I never say never but 3 times in a row in Sandy Hook. ??? and this is the only time I ever recall seeing these types of emotions from a parent. Just sayin.
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You may be right...But without open caskets, you are just going by what you are being told.
And you would prefer open caskets for little children's, which has been shot to pieces? Let me point out the facts of the matter: Adam Lanza shot 20 children, and then himself when police arrive. There is tons of evidence that he did it. There is also bunch of lies by foil hat idiots regarding some idiotic conspiracy, but there isn't any evidence what so ever, and there never will be. That's why those fairytales which foil hat idiots spread are just lies. If their tales would have even a little splinter of truth, there would be some evidence to prove it. You can present any kind of claims, but if you can't prove anything, it is just crap.
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I never say never but 3 times in a row in Sandy Hook. ???
Unfortunately when you try and give your opinion on what you believe really happened you will either start a story that will implode on itself within a few lines or say "I dont know what happened but the official story is dodgy"
Which one are you going for?
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There were so many flaws with this case. So many.
Ok. And next, just prove it. Don't just talk about it, show the evidence which prove there is?
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there is no such thing as "normal behaviour" after a traumatic event.
Show me how you explain it to this bunch of the foil hat idiots, who are drooling on their shoes trying to comprehend these fucking alphabets..
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Show me how you explain it to this bunch of the foil hat idiots, who are drooling on their shoes trying to comprehend these fucking alphabets..
Conspiracy theorists are all the same, they think they are cleverer than everyone else and they are "onto something", it always unravels when you get them responding and trying to provide evidence to back their ludicrous claims.
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Unfortunately when you try and give your opinion on what you believe really happened you will either start a story that will implode on itself within a few lines or say "I dont know what happened but the official story is dodgy"
Which one are you going for?
Why only two choices? Like I said I'm not into conspiracies, but when someone try's to disprove another person who believes there is one the first question that is asked is "so what do you think happened?". What I am saying is I am shocked at how the parents acted in less than 24 hours after their child had been slaughtered. One talked about gun control, the other two talked about how their daughter wanted world peace and the other looked like a freakin weirdo as he laughed it up and tried to cry just as he was about to get the cue to talk. I don't recall either of the first two saying anything about how they were going to miss their child or how tragic it was to lose them at such a young age and so forth.
I've seen people lose a child. Two of them were due to accidents and let me tell you they were inconsolable. Made me want to puke at how they looked. Actually the second one was due to a congenital defect but she died suddenly. These people couldn't stop crying for days. I don't know bro maybe it's all normal but me personally I'd want to die and would or could never talk to the media so quickly and not lose it.
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Why only two choices? Like I said I'm not into conspiracies, but when someone try's to disprove another person who believes there is one the first question that is asked is "so what do you think happened?". What I am saying is I am shocked at how the parents acted in less than 24 hours after their child had been slaughtered. One talked about gun control, the other two talked about how their daughter wanted world peace and the other looked like a freakin weirdo as he laughed it up and tried to cry just as he was about to get the cue to talk. I don't recall either of the fist two saying anything about how they were going to miss their child or how tragic it was to lose them at such a young age and so forth.
I've seen people lose a child. Two of them were due to accidents and let me tell you they were inconsolable. Made me want to puke at how they looked. Actually the second one was due to a congenital defect but she died suddenly. These people couldn't stop crying for days. I don't know bro maybe it's all normal but me personally I'd want to die and would or could never talk to the media so quickly and not lose it.
Sorry I missed the third option which was to repeat what you had written earlier in greater detail.
We are still none the wiser as to why you believe the whole thing was set up with actors as opposed to real children being shot.
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there is no such thing as "normal behaviour" after a traumatic event.
Simon, you're right and you're wrong.
There are MANY overlapping behaviors and emotions that are elicited after a traumatic event. For example, a common reaction to a traumatic event is "avoidance." This is why so many war veterans never get help, because they think by avoiding it, the trauma will go away. Similarly, we see avoidant behavior in many children who are sexually abused, which is why over 85% of people never disclose that they were abused as children. Shame and guilt are very common emotions among children who are sexually abused. Dissociation is another common experience. People often dissociate during the time of the traumatic event, in order to "separate" themselves from the event. Dissociation then often becomes a technique in which people use to avoid confronting their trauma. Dissociation is very common.
You are right in the sense that traumatic experiences may elicit all different types of behaviors. Some people are minimally affected and some are greatly affected. Sometimes a traumatic event will inspire someone to write a book about their experience of give lectures, etc. This is obviously the total opposite of avoidance. Some people show remarkable courage in the face of trauma and do not display the typical emotions and behaviors associated with trauma. There are many reasons why trauma may affect someone differently. For example, a child who has a great social support (parents and peers and teachers) is less likely to experience severe symptoms, as opposed to a child who has does not have a social support system.
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Why only two choices? Like I said I'm not into conspiracies, but when someone try's to disprove another person who believes there is one the first question that is asked is "so what do you think happened?". What I am saying is I am shocked at how the parents acted in less than 24 hours after their child had been slaughtered. One talked about gun control, the other two talked about how their daughter wanted world peace and the other looked like a freakin weirdo as he laughed it up and tried to cry just as he was about to get the cue to talk. I don't recall either of the first two saying anything about how they were going to miss their child or how tragic it was to lose them at such a young age and so forth.
I've seen people lose a child. Two of them were due to accidents and let me tell you they were inconsolable. Made me want to puke at how they looked. Actually the second one was due to a congenital defect but she died suddenly. These people couldn't stop crying for days. I don't know bro maybe it's all normal but me personally I'd want to die and would or could never talk to the media so quickly and not lose it.
Well, if you are able to think about it, it is completely different thing to lose a child, and lose a child while completely stupid and emotionless bunch of reporters are pushing their microphones and cameras up to your ass..
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Simon, you're right and you're wrong.
There are MANY overlapping behaviors and emotions that are elicited after a traumatic event. For example, a common reaction to a traumatic event is "avoidance." This is why so many war veterans never get help, because they think by avoiding it, the trauma will go away. Similarly, we see avoidant behavior in many children who are sexually abused, which is why over 85% of people never disclose that they were abused as children. Shame and guilt are very common emotions among children who are sexually abused. Dissociation is another common experience. People often dissociate during the time of the traumatic event, in order to "separate" themselves from the event. Dissociation then often becomes a technique in which people use to avoid confronting their trauma. Dissociation is very common.
You are right in the sense that traumatic experiences may elicit all different types of behaviors. Some people are minimally affected and some are greatly affected. Sometimes a traumatic event will inspire someone to write a book about their experience of give lectures, etc. This is obviously the total opposite of avoidance. Some people show remarkable courage in the face of trauma and do not display the typical emotions and behaviors associated with trauma. There are many reasons why trauma may affect someone differently. For example, a child who has a great social support (parents and peers and teachers) is less likely to experience severe symptoms, as opposed to a child who has does not have a social support system.
Everyone is an individual and we all respond differently.
There is no reason to suspect the people who lost children at Sandy Hook were acting abnormally.
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Example, I have had people close to me die and not been all that bothered, I have also had dogs die and been devastated
Is that normal behaviour?
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Everyone is an individual and we all respond differently.
There is no reason to suspect the people who lost children at Sandy Hook were acting abnormally.
I am not referring to specifically Sandy Hook. I do believe Sandy Hook happened.
I am speaking in more general terms. What I am saying is that although we are individuals, there are MANY common reactions among people who experience traumatic events. Many war veterans experience very similar symptoms. So, while we do respond individually, cluster analyses do show very specific emotions and behaviors elicited by people who experience traumatic events.
Of course there are EXCEPTIONS to every rule. However, as I stated, there are very common reactions to a traumatic event. It doesn't mean EVERYONE will display these symptoms, but the vast majority do.
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I am not referring to specifically Sandy Hook.
What I am saying is that although we are individuals, there are MANY common reactions among people who experience traumatic events. Many war veterans experience very similar symptoms. So, while we do respond individually, cluster analyses do show very specific emotions and behaviors elicited by people who experience traumatic events.
Some people who get upset start crying and bawling uncontrollably some just go quiet.
I agree with your analysis that on the whole people who get upset show similar symptoms (crying) but it isnt universal and you cant make assumptions based on what you see.
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Why only two choices? Like I said I'm not into conspiracies, but when someone try's to disprove another person who believes there is one the first question that is asked is "so what do you think happened?". What I am saying is I am shocked at how the parents acted in less than 24 hours after their child had been slaughtered. One talked about gun control, the other two talked about how their daughter wanted world peace and the other looked like a freakin weirdo as he laughed it up and tried to cry just as he was about to get the cue to talk. I don't recall either of the first two saying anything about how they were going to miss their child or how tragic it was to lose them at such a young age and so forth.
I've seen people lose a child. Two of them were due to accidents and let me tell you they were inconsolable. Made me want to puke at how they looked. Actually the second one was due to a congenital defect but she died suddenly. These people couldn't stop crying for days. I don't know bro maybe it's all normal but me personally I'd want to die and would or could never talk to the media so quickly and not lose it.
Wouldnt surprise me in the least if the news channels used actors to spin a story piggybacked off a real tragedy.
Similar things have happened before... parents wpuldnt talk to the news, so they simply found some people to act like they were involved and gave them a script.
Doesnt mean the official stoy is BS, just that pathetic parasites used a real tragedy to try and further their own ideals/agendad.
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Some people who get upset start crying and bawling uncontrollably some just go quiet.
I agree with your analysis that on the whole people who get upset show similar symptoms (crying) but it isnt universal and you cant make assumptions based on what you see.
Dude, I agree with you! I do believe Sandy Hook happened. I don't believe it is right to say that because these people did not show symptoms X, Y or Z, then it's a conspiracy. It would be ridiculous to think that. In fact, its downright stupid and I am not making any assumptions based on their parents reactions.
However, I stand by my stance in that the literature shows an overlapping symptoms across people who experience traumatic events (avoidance, hypervigilance, and hyperarousal). Its very clearly stated in the literature. This does not mean that there won't be those people who respond drastically different. That is quite obvious.
Anyway, I have learned to avoid debating conspiracy theorists. They are only going to believe what they want to believe.
ps - I just had a killer arm work out :) :)
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The "classmate" of Lanza's seems odd. Notice she never even knew the guy, yet describes him as "distant" and a little "off". She says, oh yes, there were signs he was a genius, but she took no classes with him nor had any personal anecdote to share about it. Again, she just says something about he "seemed above" everyone else.
I just don't get any sense of sincerity from her. She does not seem like a nervous student expressing her (apparently, lack of) knowledge. Seems like she had talking points. He was a loner. He was quiet, etc.
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I never thought Sandy Hook was a hoax however after watching videos from the event the behaviors displayed by those interviewed was bizarre; compare the responses to the those that took place at Columbine, somethings off.
Something about the interviews remind me of Susan Smiths interview.
I normally think these conspiracy loons are far out there but in this case they look less crazy.
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The "classmate" of Lanza's seems odd. Notice she never even knew the guy, yet describes him as "distant" and a little "off". She says, oh yes, there were signs he was a genius, but she took no classes with him nor had any personal anecdote to share about it. Again, she just says something about he "seemed above" everyone else.
I just don't get any sense of sincerity from her. She does not seem like a nervous student expressing her (apparently, lack of) knowledge. Seems like she had talking points. He was a loner. He was quiet, etc.
Its exactly the same when any guy in the area you live kills someone, everyone seems to start saying "I knew there was something odd about him"
Its what people do.
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Dude, I agree with you! I do believe Sandy Hook happened. I don't believe it is right to say that because these people did not show symptoms X, Y or Z, then it's a conspiracy. It would be ridiculous to think that. In fact, its downright stupid and I am not making any assumptions based on their parents reactions.
However, I stand by my stance in that the literature shows an overlapping symptoms across people who experience traumatic events (avoidance, hypervigilance, and hyperarousal). Its very clearly stated in the literature. This does not mean that there won't be those people who respond drastically different. That is quite obvious.
Anyway, I have learned to avoid debating conspiracy theorists. They are only going to believe what they want to believe.
ps - I just had a killer arm work out :) :)
Biceps and triceps?
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Biceps and triceps?
And forearms!
Biceps:
Preacher curls
Barbell curls
Hammer Curls
Rope curls
Triceps:
Rope pressdowns.
Skull crushers
Close grip bench press
Understand pressdowns
Forearms:
Wrist curls
:) :)
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Its exactly the same when any guy in the area you live kills someone, everyone seems to start saying "I knew there was something odd about him"
Its what people do.
AND WHAT PICTURE DO THEY ALWAYS POST ,ONE OF THE SHOOTER/KILLER WITH EYES BUGGING OUT OF THERE HEAD . OR SHAVED HEAD CRAZED LOOK..
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AND WHAT PICTURE DO THEY ALWAYS POST ,ONE OF THE SHOOTER/KILLER WITH EYES BUGGING OUT OF THERE HEAD . OR SHAVED HEAD CRAZED LOOK..
(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/2d42e3d51377640b4c5a1c5238608d8404a47242/c=4-0-2000-1500&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/WMAZ/WMAZ/2014/01/16//1389891751000-adam-lanza.jpg)
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Fast forward to just before 8:30 and see the "dad" who lost a kid laugh before he thinks the camera starts rolling and then gets ready to start play acting his sorrow. Amazing! Please anyone explain this shit!!!
There are many more gems in this video. This is a total fraud committed to pass gun laws. The perpetrators need to hang!
So what is the truth about Sandy Hook?
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CHRIST...SHADE THAT BRIGHT WHITE AND THEY WOULD SAY SANDY HOOK HAS SPOTTED A UFO AND AN ALIEN EATING AT THE LOCAL
DINER..LOOKS LIKE HE GOT OFF THE SET OF CLOSE ENCOUNTERS..
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Wiggs is proof that weed fucks
Your head up
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Sorry I missed the third option which was to repeat what you had written earlier in greater detail.
We are still none the wiser as to why you believe the whole thing was set up with actors as opposed to real children being shot.
Where did I say any of what you claimed I said? I never said I thought it was a set with actors you just did. I said, well reread my post since I wouldn't want to repeat it a third time. ::)
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Some people who get upset start crying and bawling uncontrollably some just go quiet.
I agree with your analysis that on the whole people who get upset show similar symptoms (crying) but it isnt universal and you cant make assumptions based on what you see.
None of these people "went quiet". They were talking a ton and just fine. Hey maybe Adam was the last normal guy left and all the rest were taken over by pods and emotionless duplicates replaced them.
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Journalist Foley sister and brother
Alex Isreal , Adam Lansa's Classmate , Sandy Hook shooter
Same Female ??? ???
Way way hotter than DLB though
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And you would prefer open caskets for little children's, which has been shot to pieces? Let me point out the facts of the matter: Adam Lanza shot 20 children, and then himself when police arrive. There is tons of evidence that he did it. There is also bunch of lies by foil hat idiots regarding some idiotic conspiracy, but there isn't any evidence what so ever, and there never will be. That's why those fairytales which foil hat idiots spread are just lies. If their tales would have even a little splinter of truth, there would be some evidence to prove it. You can present any kind of claims, but if you can't prove anything, it is just crap.
I don't disagree with what your saying. And as far as open caskets for children, I don't care either way. I believe that death at any age is equal. I've been to a few funerals where there was open caskets and i'll tell ya, every single one of them looked like some sort of Alien wax type human inside. So an open casket of a kid wouldn't matter either way really because the kid wouldn't look real either.
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I don't disagree with what your saying. And as far as open caskets for children, I don't care either way. I believe that death at any age is equal. I've been to a few funerals where there was open caskets and i'll tell ya, every single one of them looked like some sort of Alien wax type human inside. So an open casket of a kid wouldn't matter either way really because the kid wouldn't look real either.
And now, let see how your logic works: First you say about the closed caskets "But without open caskets, you are just going by what you are being told". Then you say about the open casket, "every single one of them looked like some sort of Alien wax type human inside" ? Please tell me what exactly would be the point, where you will believe that there is a real dead person in the casket? How it need to be proved, that in those caskets in sandy hook were real dead children, killed by Adam Lanza?
For foil hat morons, everything is a lie, so they can't believe anything. They deny the truth without any thinking or hesitation, and create ridiculous delusional fantasies to replace it with. Facts have always evidence to prove them. Foil hat morons doesn't have any evidence at all, no matter which conspiracy we talk about. That I find funny, because only the stupidest morons of them all could believe those fantasies without even asking for some kind of evidence.
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And now, let see how your logic works: First you say about the closed caskets "But without open caskets, you are just going by what you are being told". Then you say about the open casket, "every single one of them looked like some sort of Alien wax type human inside" ? Please tell me what exactly would be the point, where you will believe that there is a real dead person in the casket? How it need to be proved, that in those caskets in sandy hook were real dead children, killed by Adam Lanza?
For foil hat morons, everything is a lie, so they can't believe anything. They deny the truth without any thinking or hesitation, and create ridiculous delusional fantasies to replace it with. Facts have always evidence to prove them. Foil hat morons doesn't have any evidence at all, no matter which conspiracy we talk about. That I find funny, because only the stupidest morons of them all could believe those fantasies without even asking for some kind of evidence.
"Theres something wrong with the official story of Sandy Hook"
In what respect?
Well, it just doesnt look right
Why not
because it doesnt, people dont behave like that
how do you know thats not how a certain individual behaves
,,,,,,fuck of sheeple.
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"Theres something wrong with the official story of Sandy Hook"
In what respect?
Well, it just doesnt look right
Why not
because it doesnt, people dont behave like that
how do you know thats not how a certain individual behaves
,,,,,,fuck of sheeple.
Also off sheeple piss aim poor is his
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Laugh all you want I'm on to something.
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"Theres something wrong with the official story of Sandy Hook"
In what respect?
Well, it just doesnt look right
Why not
because it doesnt, people dont behave like that
how do you know thats not how a certain individual behaves
,,,,,,fuck of sheeple.
And why it doesn't look right? BECAUSE THOSE FOIL HAT MORONS ARE SCREAMING IN YOUR EAR THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT. This is the point which you are unable to comprehend. Everything look just as normal as it should be in the chaotic situation like it was, until some fucking foil hat moron tell you, that it doesn't look right, and that you should think with your own brains (with the IQ of ~64 points). And that you do, because it flatters you that there is someone who really think that you have a brains ;D
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Lol because Disgusted questions some of the details of an elementary shooting he's a loon. .... History has documented that the government shouldn't be trusted and that those in power will go to whatever lengths necessary to push their agenda for the greater good (JFK, J. Edgar Hoover, Weapons of mass destruction, the US governments current battle with yahoo to release classified documents, etc...).
Everything is as it seems, don't question anything. Sadly the very spirit of America was founded on questioning the establishment, however if an event like the Boston Tea party were to occur today the media and general public would crucify these "terrorists". Who are the lambs being led to the slaughter?
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Lol because Disgusted questions some of the details of an elementary shooting he's a loon. .... History has documented that the government shouldn't be trusted and that those in power will go to whatever lengths necessary to push their agenda for the greater good (JFK, J. Edgar Hoover, Weapons of mass destruction, the US governments current battle with yahoo to release classified documents, etc...).
Everything is as it seems, don't question anything. Sadly the very spirit of America was founded on questioning the establishment, however if an event like the Boston Tea party were to occur today the media and general public would crucify these "terrorists". Who are the lambs being led to the slaughter?
Hiroshima
Fuck that, it doesnt look right to me, bombs dont do that much damage, and where are all the bodies, 80,000 people just dont disappear.
The Japs staged it all and moved everyone out to the country and then knocked all the houses down with a wrecking ball, it was all done to try and get people on their side against the USA.
Twats.
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Hiroshima
Fuck that, it doesnt look right to me, bombs dont do that much damage, and where are all the bodies, 80,000 people just dont disappear.
The Japs staged it all and moved everyone out to the country and then knocked all the houses down with a wrecking ball, it was all done to try and get people on their side against the USA.
Twats.
Great example! Because that's the point being made! You're a master of debating, I concede defeat. Sandy Hook was definitely the work of one emaciated 120 pound social recluse, who was an expert marksman, probably from honing his skills via countless hours of Call of Duty online. Thank God he couldn't physically reload his weapons faster or else there'd been real devastation.
Hahahahahaha Hiroshima, you could at least used the Holocaust.
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Great example! Because that's the point being made! You're a master of debating, I concede defeat. Sandy Hook was definitely the work of one emaciated 120 pound social recluse, who was an expert marksman, probably from honing his skills via countless hours of Call of Duty online. Thank God he couldn't physically reload his weapons faster or else there'd been real devastation.
Hahahahahaha Hiroshima, you could at least used the Holocaust.
So its more likely that the government staged the whole thing and had actors play grieving relatives and had fake funerals rather than some emaciated kid shooting some kids.
Gotcha.
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I knew it wouldn't take long for you to see this, but same less then five minutes? ;D
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I knew it wouldn't take long for you to see t his. ;D
;D
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Great example! Because that's the point being made! You're a master of debating, I concede defeat. Sandy Hook was definitely the work of one emaciated 120 pound social recluse, who was an expert marksman, probably from honing his skills via countless hours of Call of Duty online. Thank God he couldn't physically reload his weapons faster or else there'd been real devastation.
Hahahahahaha Hiroshima, you could at least used the Holocaust.
You don't have to be a marksmen when youre standing a matter of inches away from your target.
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;D
What's your take on the video seriously although you may not have watched it? I honestly have no clue what is going on there.
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What's your take on the video seriously although you may not have watched it? I honestly have no clue what is going on there.
Seriously, watch the video again and pick out someone else to follow around, almost all of them are wandering around aimlessly.
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Seriously, watch the video again and pick out someone else to follow around, almost all of them are wandering around aimlessly.
Already did and that's exactly what I noticed too. ??? Just to add, it reminded me of the scene in "Twins" when Arnold and Danny just got their new duds and where walking and the same people in the back ground kept walking by over and over.
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So its more likely that the government staged the whole thing and had actors play grieving relatives and had fake funerals rather than some emaciated kid shooting some kids.
Gotcha.
I'm sorry bro, I understand where youre coming from; I didn't mean it was staged with actors I meant there were a lot of loose ends for a national disaster. If the Columbine disaster was the standard for investigations Sandy Hooks didn't live up to to the precedent set.
Idk know what the video Disgusted posted meant to prove; people were corralled waiting to find out information about a shooting, that behavior wasn't unusual what we're the supposed to be doing?
SF1900 you're 100% correct; at point blank range they were fish in a barrel.
My argument wasn't that it was inconceivable, just statistically it'd be an anomaly for one untrained shooter to be that accurate.
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Already did and that's exactly what I noticed too. ???
these videos are designed to find the less intelligent people in society who live sheltered shallow meaningless lives.
The people who pick up on these vids and run with them and post them without comment (no offence) genuinely believe they have picked up on something only highly intelligent people will pick up on.
When in reality its exactly the opposite.
"Really, child actors in something as complicated as this, kids cant keep secrets"
"Oh, did you see the Manchurian Candiate?"
"They brainwash them all and then they totally forget everything after."
Believe me, I have heard it all.
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these videos are designed to find the less intelligent people in society who live sheltered shallow meaningless lives.
The people who pick up on these vids and run with them and post them without comment (no offence) genuinely believe they have picked up on something only highly intelligent people will pick up on.
When in reality its exactly the opposite.
"Really, child actors in something as complicated as this, kids cant keep secrets"
"Oh, did you see the Manchurian Candiate?"
"They brainwash them all and then they totally forget everything after."
Believe me, I have heard it all.
Well opinions vary so I take no offense. I don't believe much of what I see in the media ever. I do think that a lot of the people that think this was hoaxed are reaching pretty bad to prove it. It's interesting to get all opinions on both sides and I think in the end the truth is somewhere in the middle.
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I'm sorry bro, I understand where youre coming from; I didn't mean it was staged with actors I meant there were a lot of loose ends for a national disaster. If the Columbine disaster was the standard for investigations Sandy Hooks didn't live up to to the precedent set.
Idk know what the video Disgusted posted meant to prove; people were corralled waiting to find out information about a shooting, that behavior wasn't unusual what we're the supposed to be doing?
SF1900 you're 100% correct; at point blank range they were fish in a barrel.
My argument wasn't that it was inconceivable, just statistically it'd be an anomaly for one untrained shooter to be that accurate.
I'm pretty sure thats a contradiction.
Oh , and
Adam Lanza frequently went target shooting with his mother and brother between 2010 and 2012, and had taken rifle safety classes with them. Fifty-two-year-old Nancy Lanza used target practice as a way to bond with her withdrawn and troubled son, according to a February Hartford Courant/Frontline investigation.
http://news.yahoo.com/sandy-hook-report--shooter-s-mom-wanted-to-buy-him-gun-for-christmas-210859068.html
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No contradiction, I was wrong about him being an untrained shooter, you got me.
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No contradiction, I was wrong about him being an untrained shooter, you got me.
Shame he did the Sandy Hook shooting, he would have been a great candidate for the Obama assassination. ::)
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I'm sorry bro, I understand where youre coming from; I didn't mean it was staged with actors I meant there were a lot of loose ends for a national disaster. If the Columbine disaster was the standard for investigations Sandy Hooks didn't live up to to the precedent set.
Idk know what the video Disgusted posted meant to prove; people were corralled waiting to find out information about a shooting, that behavior wasn't unusual what we're the supposed to be doing?
SF1900 you're 100% correct; at point blank range they were fish in a barrel.
My argument wasn't that it was inconceivable, just statistically it'd be an anomaly for one untrained shooter to be that accurate.
To be honest, I know jackshit about shooting. However, I would imagine being in a school with hundreds of little children, it would not be difficult to target 20 of them. Remember, these are children, not adults. Most of the children were probably hovering in corners, scared to death. Even an untrained shooter would be able to target a large amount of children. It would be a different story if it was all adults in the building, given that adults may be more difficult targets (their ability to use tactics to avoid getting hit). While there may be other inconsistencies to the story, the fact that he was able to target 20 children, even as an untrained shooter, is not too far fetched.
Just my 2 cents.
Cheers.
Edit: Just saw that he actually received training courses to fire a gun.
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To be honest, I know jackshit about shooting. However, I would imagine being in a school with hundreds of little children, it would not be difficult to target 20 of them. Remember, these are children, not adults. Most of the children were probably hovering in corners, scared to death. Even an untrained shooter would be able to target a large amount of children. It would be a different story if it was all adults in the building, given that adults may be more difficult targets (their ability to use tactics to avoid getting hit). While there may be other inconsistencies to the story, the fact that he was able to target 20 children, even as an untrained shooter, is not too far fetched.
Just my 2 cents.
Cheers.
Edit: Just saw that he actually received training courses to fire a gun.
I could walk out of my house now and knock on my neighbours doors and probably kill 50 people in the next 3 hours before anyone knew anything about it.
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"Fifty-two-year-old Nancy Lanza used target practice as a way to bond with her withdrawn and troubled son, according to a February Hartford Courant/Frontline investigation."
It's statements like this and I'm sure dozens of others that are nothing but pure conjecture and yes that goes for both sides. They are obviously trying to paint a picture that this kid was crazy. Guess it's easier to accept than to think a "sane" person could do such a thing.
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"Fifty-two-year-old Nancy Lanza used target practice as a way to bond with her withdrawn and troubled son, according to a February Hartford Courant/Frontline investigation."
It's statements like this and I'm sure dozens of others that are nothing but pure conjecture and yes that goes for both sides. They are obviously trying to paint a picture that this kid was crazy. Guess it's easier to accept than to think a "sane" person could do such a thing.
Have you heard of the phrase "No true scotsman"?
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Have you heard of the phrase "No true scotsman"?
Lol yes and it's meaning is used all the time especially in the media.
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Lol because Disgusted questions some of the details of an elementary shooting he's a loon. .... History has documented that the government shouldn't be trusted and that those in power will go to whatever lengths necessary to push their agenda for the greater good (JFK, J. Edgar Hoover, Weapons of mass destruction, the US governments current battle with yahoo to release classified documents, etc...).
Everything is as it seems, don't question anything. Sadly the very spirit of America was founded on questioning the establishment, however if an event like the Boston Tea party were to occur today the media and general public would crucify these "terrorists". Who are the lambs being led to the slaughter?
Do you really want to know who are the lambs? Lambs are those fucking morons, who believe any fucking crap without asking any evidence what so ever. They are called a "foil hat morons", and not without the reason to do so. They are called that because in the human kind there isn't a bunch of people, who are more stupid, more ignorant and more fucking insane than them. Their phrase ""why don't you think with your own brains" really means that your should repeat their message, believe it and ignore everything else because their truth is only reliable truth there is, regarding their own words. Only problem is that they never have anything to prove their claims. They have 0 evidence, no matter which conspiracy we choose to talk about. If man, who is willing to believe what ever has been proved by concrete evidence is a lamb, how do you call the people who don't even think to ask any evidence? They are scum of the earth, the left over shit on the bottom of the gene pool. They are just crap, imbeciles drooling on their shoes.
What is common factor with these:
1. Kennedy assassination
2. 9/11 attack
3. Boston bombing
4. Sandy Hook mass murder
All of these are conspiracies, of course. There is not one, but few common factors.
1. No any evidence about foul play what so ever. You should be smart enough to ask for those, and foil hats aren't.
2. While there is hundreds of people involved in the so called conspiracy, there haven't been even one "leak". Instead of that, every one involved has kept the secret to himself. In the real world it never happen. Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.
3. There is bunch of eye witness, there is mountain of evidence, there is tons of facts proved by the evidence and witnesses, but regarding to the foil hat morons, you should just ignore all of that because truth is elsewhere. They never have anything to prove it is, but in the other hand, you never even ask if there is. How the hell this can happen? Instead of calling names and throwing insults you should think about that. What makes a man so stupid, that he stop believing concrete evidence and facts, and instead of those, he is willing to believe any fucking crap he found in the internet?
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Do you really want to know who are the lambs? Lambs are those fucking morons, who believe any fucking crap without asking any evidence what so ever. They are called a "foil hat morons", and not without the reason to do so. They are called that because in the human kind there isn't a bunch of people, who are more stupid, more ignorant and more fucking insane than them. Their phrase ""why don't you think with your own brains" really means that your should repeat their message, believe it and ignore everything else because their truth is only reliable truth there is, regarding their own words. Only problem is that they never have anything to prove their claims. They have 0 evidence, no matter which conspiracy we choose to talk about. If man, who is willing to believe what ever has been proved by concrete evidence is a lamb, how do you call the people who don't even think to ask any evidence? They are scum of the earth, the left over shit on the bottom of the gene pool. They are just crap, imbeciles drooling on their shoes.
What is common factor with these:
1. Kennedy assassination
2. 9/11 attack
3. Boston bombing
4. Sandy Hook mass murder
All of these are conspiracies, of course. There is not one, but few common factors.
1. No any evidence about foul play what so ever. You should be smart enough to ask for those, and foil hats aren't.
2. While there is hundreds of people involved in the so called conspiracy, there haven't been even one "leak". Instead of that, every one involved has kept the secret to himself. In the real world it never happen. Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.
3. There is bunch of eye witness, there is mountain of evidence, there is tons of facts proved by the evidence and witnesses, but regarding to the foil hat morons, you should just ignore all of that because truth is elsewhere. They never have anything to prove it is, but in the other hand, you never even ask if there is. How the hell this can happen? Instead of calling names and throwing insults you should think about that. What makes a man so stupid, that he stop believing concrete evidence and facts, and instead of those, he is willing to believe any fucking crap he found in the internet?
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Too inept to plant (desperately crucial) WMDs in a remote desert thousands of miles away, with no one to witness, yet brilliant enough to pull off the most complex, multi-player schemes imaginable (unforgivable atrocities at that) right under our collective noses.
Indeed, makes perfect sense.
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Obviously everyone who has recently commented on this subject is highly intelligent and we'll informed, myself excluded (I'm not saying this in jest nor sarcastically).
I admit I was completely wrong about what I knew about Adam Lanza's weapons training, and I never thought and do i think I implied that the shooting was a hoax with an elaborate acting crew. Admittedly I spoke out of turn when saying things seemed odd about the outcome and rush to judgement. The Sandy Hook massacre was simply one crazed lunatic acting out in a fit of rage. As advanced as we are as a civilization there is still much we don't understand about mental health/illness. I can admit this was certainly a clear cut open and shut case, as random as it was.
When these tragedies happen people try to make sense out of them; who, what, why, when, where and how are the logical questions and when those questions aren't answered logically the simple truth that a lunatic walked in a school and slaughtered children, that religious zealots high jacked planes and used them as bombs due to America's oppression/tyranny suddenly becomes unpalatable.
Factor in a 24 news cycle, instant communication with people a world way via the internet and some genuine distrust of government it's easy to set the ground work for conspiracy theories.
That being said
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Too inept to plant (desperately crucial) WMDs in a remote desert thousands of miles away, with no one to witness, yet brilliant enough to pull off the most complex, multi-player schemes imaginable (unforgivable atrocities at that) right under our collective noses.
Indeed, makes perfect sense.
LOL! Excellent point.
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these videos are designed to find the less intelligent people in society who live sheltered shallow meaningless lives.
The people who pick up on these vids and run with them and post them without comment (no offence) genuinely believe they have picked up on something only highly intelligent people will pick up on.
When in reality its exactly the opposite.
"Really, child actors in something as complicated as this, kids cant keep secrets"
"Oh, did you see the Manchurian Candiate?"
"They brainwash them all and then they totally forget everything after."
Believe me, I have heard it all.
This is true. But to say the mainstream media doesn't serve the same purpose would be inaccurate.
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With all the security cameras they have today... why is there no videos of Adam Lanza entering the school grounds or the school itself?
Imagine how many security cameras are surrounding the pentagon. There is only ONE video that is about 5-7 frames and you cannot clearly see what hitting the pentagon. It certainly does not look like a 757. I want to see ALL the video footage.
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With all the security cameras they have today... why is there no videos of Adam Lanza entering the school grounds or the school itself?
Imagine how many security cameras are surrounding the pentagon. There is only ONE video that is about 5-7 frames and you cannot clearly see what hitting the pentagon. It certainly does not look like a 757. I want to see ALL the video footage.
Maybe the new school they just built will have a better surveillance system.
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With all the security cameras they have today... why is there no videos of Adam Lanza entering the school grounds or the school itself?
Imagine how many security cameras are surrounding the pentagon. There is only ONE video that is about 5-7 frames and you cannot clearly see what hitting the pentagon. It certainly does not look like a 757. I want to see ALL the video footage.
"Imagine how many security cameras are surrounding the pentagon?". You use the right words, because just like foil hat morons, you really have to imagine those cameras, because truth about them is little bit different than foil hat morons has pointed out. There is plenty of imaginary security cameras rounding pentagon, but only few real ones. This is how it works: On the area where pentagon is, there is banks, service stations, schools, shops, bars etc. which all have security cameras, so the number of cameras is high. Sadly, none of these is pointing to pentagon, so if you wear a tight foil hat, you may say that there is many cameras but no footage about the plane crash. At the pentagon itself, there isn't so many cameras filming sky and aero planes, they are filming entrance, doors and so on.
"why is there no videos of Adam Lanza entering the school grounds?" Question to make isn't that. It is this: Why there isn't any, not even the smallest bit of evidence, not even the bacteria size evidence that shooter would be any body else than Adam Lanza? Any doubt you may have about the case is based on to emotional feelings, not on any kind of facts or evidence. Furthermore, these isn't even your own feelings, but feelings of some drooling idiot. Some foil hat moron said, that "this doesn't seem right" and there you go. You start to build mountain of doubts on this sentence, never asking any evidence even to prove that it doesn't seem right.
In Kennedy assassination, there was something like 53 concrete evidence pointing towards guilty of Oswald, and not even one pointing any other direction. In Sandy Hook massacre there is like 1859 concrete evidence pointing towards Adam Lanza, and not even one pointing any other direction. History of criminology know cases where has been 1-3 evidence pointing towards innocent, so that is possible. But 53 or over 1000? Can you even understand how impossible it is?
So what are the evidences against Adam Lanza? Well, first of all, they found him on the middle of the splatter of his own brains, his gun in his hand and with his fingerprints all over the place. In the gun, in the shells, in the cartridges, in the doors which he opened, in the car which he drove there etc. etc. There is no doubt what so ever that he was the one who load those magazines and used those guns, because there isn't any fucking fingerprint of any one else but his and his mothers. And the bitch who gave birth to this moron, she has the alibi because she was killed earlier.
And how about the survivors, which there is plenty? They have seen what they saw, and heard what they heard, so there is dozens of witnesses, all pointing towards this autistic piece of crap, who had a history of mental problems. So where do you need those security tapes? To prove that there was security tapes, so you have more than 1859 evidence towards guilty of Adam Lanza, and still zero evidence pointing some other direction?
Or are you trying to point out, that there was group of invisible perpetrators, who scatter all the evidence all over the place, shot Adams brains to the roof, and fade away without leaving even one shred of evidence that they have been there. I would like to see how you prove that ;D
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The official story repeated by school staff is that the school janitor (only male in the building) ran down the halls, warned every teacher to lock their doors and was the true hero of the day.
And yet, Google 'Sandy Hook janitor' and try to find out his name and why he's never been interviewed about what he saw that day and what prompted him to be the Paul Revere of that school on that morning.
I came up empty.
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The official story repeated by school staff is that the school janitor (only male in the building) ran down the halls, warned every teacher to lock their doors and was the true hero of the day.
And yet, Google 'Sandy Hook janitor' and try to find out his name and why he's never been interviewed about what he saw that day and what prompted him to be the Paul Revere of that school on that morning.
I came up empty.
Um, with one google search I found out two custodial names Kevin J. Anzellotti and Rick Thorne. This would be consistent, considering most schools have more than one janitor.
Hello Mr. Tinfoil hat.
(http://mygaming.co.za/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/tinfoil-hat-guy.jpg)
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http://news.sky.com/story/1187631/sandy-hook-shooting-documents-released
This was the second search item on Google
The documents also filled in more details about how the shooting unfolded, teachers protected their students and the school janitor confronted the shooter.
Teachers heard janitor Rick Thorn try to get Lanza to leave the school.
One teacher, who was hiding in a closet in the maths lab, heard Mr Thorn yell: "Put the gun down!"
An aide said she heard gunfire and Mr Thorn told her to close her door.
Squidvicious = damp squibous.
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That is irrelevant for now. Stay on point. What is relevant is the behaviors of these people and the obvious inconsistency.
So, there is objective proof ( names, places, etc) that this was a false flag deal?
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Just read this and tell me how fucking dumb these doubters are.
http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/files/93780868.pdf
(The bolded sections are the guys questioning the validity of Sabndy hook.)
09:35:43 Rick Thorne- Custodian - first 911 call to the CT State Police Centralized Dispatch
Brennan: "State Police 911, what's the location of your emergency?"
Thorne: "Yes, I think we have shooting down at the Sandy Hook Elementary School"
Brennan: "okay ... "
Thorne: "Please get down here"
CT State police dispatcher does not even bother to ask the address of the shooting to send Ct State Police. Why?
Lol, just look at Thornes first comment ::)
Thorne: "I believe that there is shooting at the front. .. at the front glass .. Something is going on"
Nute: "Ok .. . Alright I've got officer.. I want you to stay on the line with me. Where are you in the school?"
Thorne: "I'm down the corridor"
Nute: "Alright I want you to take cover, Jen get the sergeant.. alright, get everybody you can going down there"
Nute: "Let me get some information from you"
Nute: "What makes you think that?"
Thorne: "The front glass is all shot out.. It kept .. kept going on" Nute: "Ok" (State PO Dispatcher Brennan still on the line) 09:36:49 Thorne: "It's still happening"
Nute: "Alright, what about the students in the front of the building"
How does NUTE the dispatcher know that there are children in front of the building?
Who brought up children in front of the school it is not Thorne as you can see.
No one brought up the front of the building?
It was Thorne again at the first line
These guys are fucking stupid beyond words
I have not gone any further
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With all the security cameras they have today... why is there no videos of Adam Lanza entering the school grounds or the school itself?
Imagine how many security cameras are surrounding the pentagon. There is only ONE video that is about 5-7 frames and you cannot clearly see what hitting the pentagon. It certainly does not look like a 757. I want to see ALL the video footage.
But consider the MOUNTAINS of actual evidence you must ignore/dismiss in order to focus on those questionably relevant "discrepancies."
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Just read this and tell me how fucking dumb these doubters are.
Well, you ask for it: Take the boot of from your left foot, squat down on top of it, and shit until it is full of crap. I promise you that this boot full of crap has higher IQ than those morons will ever have. I can't find better way to describe that overwhelming stupidity of these people. It isn't just shocking, it is more like sickening. These morons do more harm than terrorists ever could, because they are rotting the backbone of the human civilization.
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But consider the MOUNTAINS of actual evidence you must ignore/dismiss in order to focus on those questionably relevant "discrepancies."
How can people be so sure it was a conspiracy and be under the impression this was a false flag lol? I understand there are shady groups within government that do things like this but cmon that is a stretch. And on the other hand how can people also take what the media is feeding them at face value and believe everything they're told?
Two distant extremes and both tin foil hats and the true believers in government are beyond stupid.
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How can people be so sure it was a conspiracy and be under the impression this was a false flag lol? I understand there are shady groups within government that do things like this but cmon that is a stretch. And on the other hand how can people also take what the media is feeding them at face value and believe everything they're told?
Two distant extremes and both tin foil hats and the true believers in government are beyond stupid.
Thus, the middle ground. What is feasible and what is not feasible? The belief that this is all orchestrated by the government is laughable. It happened, plain and simple. However, other conspiracy theorists may be true.
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Thus, the middle ground. What is feasible and what is not feasible? The belief that this is all orchestrated by the government is laughable. It happened, plain and simple. However, other conspiracy theorists may be true.
Absolutely.
I've always wondered if the true believers think that government 'wouldn't or 'couldn't do something like this if they wanted to. To think that would be extremely naive.
Also the tin foil hatters thinking that EVERYTHING is an inside job even before the facts are researched LOL.
There are people who still believe the JFK assnsn was actually done by a crazed Lee Oswald acting on his own :D
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Absolutely.
I've always wondered if the true believers think that government 'wouldn't or 'couldn't do something like this if they wanted to. To think that would be extremely naive.
Also the tin foil hatters thinking that EVERYTHING is an inside job even before the facts are researched LOL.
There are people who still believe the JFK assnsn was actually done by a crazed Lee Oswald acting on his own :D
The government could pretty much do anything they wanted. If they wanted to orchestrate Sandy Hook, could have they? Of course. But would they? Id side with caution and say no. As stated, does that mean that there are no conspiracy theories out there? Of course not. I am sure the government knows many conspiracy theories that the average citizen will never know.
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Thus, the middle ground. What is feasible and what is not feasible? The belief that this is all orchestrated by the government is laughable. It happened, plain and simple. However, other conspiracy theorists may be true.
And maybe cows can fly. However, I haven't seen a flying cow, or a conspiracy theorists who have any evidence to his claims. How the hell this is possible, regarding the great number of the theories and theorists? Because their theories are always based on lying. There isn't any miracle, idiots can't debug conspiracies, so instead they make them by lying, using sickest imagination there is. They are incompetent, dumb as fuck little people, who have no life what so ever, nothing to do, no future, so they use their time to spread the most idiotic rumors which humankind has ever seen. Here you have it in the nutshell ;D
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Absolutely.
I've always wondered if the true believers think that government 'wouldn't or 'couldn't do something like this if they wanted to. To think that would be extremely naive.
Also the tin foil hatters thinking that EVERYTHING is an inside job even before the facts are researched LOL.
There are people who still believe the JFK assnsn was actually done by a crazed Lee Oswald acting on his own :D
There is lot of different threads about it, but in brief: There is only one man, which has been proved to be a shooter, and it is Oswald, plain and simple. In any study, in any report etc. which has been made by real experts, there has not been even single real on concrete evidence about anything else, but guilty of Oswald. Here you have good summing-up about he evidence:
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The government could pretty much do anything they wanted. If they wanted to orchestrate Sandy Hook, could have they? Of course. But would they? Id side with caution and say no. As stated, does that mean that there are no conspiracy theories out there? Of course not. I am sure the government knows many conspiracy theories that the average citizen will never know.
You are aware the government is made up of average citizens.
They are not some kind of super humans you know.
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You are aware the government is made up of average citizens.
They are not some kind of super humans you know.
Youre being literal. I meant "average" in terms of nonpoliticians who are not privy to certain information related to government affairs.
I actually believed they were superhuman who were part human part reptilian ::)
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How can people be so sure it was a conspiracy and be under the impression this was a false flag lol? I understand there are shady groups within government that do things like this but cmon that is a stretch. And on the other hand how can people also take what the media is feeding them at face value and believe everything they're told?
Two distant extremes and both tin foil hats and the true believers in government are beyond stupid.
Totally agree. Anyone who truly believes our government is competent enough to pull off such sophisticated and complex shenaniganism is a complete fucking idiot.
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There is lot of different threads about it, but in brief: There is only one man, which has been proved to be a shooter, and it is Oswald, plain and simple. In any study, in any report etc. which has been made by real experts, there has not been even single real on concrete evidence about anything else, but guilty of Oswald. Here you have good summing-up about he evidence:
Your evidence is interfering with more interesting possibilities, though. Society is peppered with sad, uninteresting lives that require interesting fantasies to get them through the day. Facts are simply an obstacle. So stop already with your evidence.
:D
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Youre being literal. I meant "average" in terms of nonpoliticians who are not privy to certain information related to government affairs.
I actually believed they were superhuman who were part human part reptilian ::)
Im being sensical, these politicians are just like you and me, they eat food, take shits, talk to friends.
Do you think they are told all these earth shattering secrets and trusted not to tell anyone.
Sure they get privy information but they are certainly not all 'in on' school shootings and such like.
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Of course people were murdered. No intelligent person denies that. Anyone claiming otherwise is either nuts or trying to spread disinfo to discredit the intelligent dissenters.
Sorry if that is to hard for some of you to understand.
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Of course people were murdered. No intelligent person denies that. Anyone claiming otherwise is either nuts or trying to spread disinfo to discredit the intelligent dissenters.
Sorry if that is to hard for some of you to understand.
oxymoron
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Totally agree. Anyone who truly believes our government is competent enough to pull off such sophisticated and complex shenaniganism is a complete fucking idiot.
::) lol really? You underestimate violent sophisticated psychopaths in government and military. There are some pretty cunning people out there bud. There are people out there who would go that far believe it or not. But I am happy there are people out there like you who still believe.
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There is lot of different threads about it, but in brief: There is only one man, which has been proved to be a shooter, and it is Oswald, plain and simple. In any study, in any report etc. which has been made by real experts, there has not been even single real on concrete evidence about anything else, but guilty of Oswald. Here you have good summing-up about he evidence:
Thats the beauty of it, no matter how sloppily the assassination was pulled off, nobody will ever prove it. Thats how cia can get away with such crazy things lol.
Wasn't there an ex cia guy who recently disproved that Oswald was in fact the shooter?
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::) lol really? You underestimate violent sophisticated psychopaths in government and military. There are some pretty cunning people out there bud. There are people out there who would go that far believe it or not. But I am happy there are people out there like you who still believe.
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You obviously misunderstood.
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You obviously misunderstood.
whoops gotcha , my bad :D
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Sandy Hook fake bomb threat called in today! Sick fucks.
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/local/article/Sandy-Hook-school-evacuated-after-threat-5793903.php
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Thats the beauty of it, no matter how sloppily the assassination was pulled off, nobody will ever prove it. Thats how cia can get away with such crazy things lol.
Wasn't there an ex cia guy who recently disproved that Oswald was in fact the shooter?
Let me repeat: There is not, there hasn't been and there likely never will be even a single evidence that there was another shooter than Oswald.
This has been proved all over again, while years go by. Everything regarding conspiracy, cia, fbi etc. is just complete bullshit. Just think why you do not believe it was only Oswald? Why it can't be single gunman? Because of the false information what you have read from the internet and newspapers. Like Bugliosi say, there were 53 concrete evidence pointing that Oswald was the shooter, and not even one single evidence pointing to any other direction. How this is possible? THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER DIRECTION. By any other way it is impossible. I quote: "Three people can keep the secret only if two of them are dead". This is the fact.
And if you wonder who the fuck this Bugliosi is, he is one of the best prosecutors in the history of USA. He has spend 20 years studying the Kennedy shooting by reading all the reports, looking all the evidence, all the previous studies etc. etc. so he knows what he is talking about. In that material which he saw during those 20 years, there wasn't anything what would link any other party than Oswald in the shooting by the evidence. Instead of that, he found lot of foil hat claims from that era and later years. In his book he butcher all these theories to the bone, and show how ridiculous they are.
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Thats the beauty of it, no matter how sloppily the assassination was pulled off, nobody will ever prove it. Thats how cia can get away with such crazy things lol.
Wasn't there an ex cia guy who recently disproved that Oswald was in fact the shooter?
Dont know, was there?
You claim conspiracy and seem to indicate that there is clear proof yet you have not even looked up the source of said proof before passing it off here.
Repeaters, thats pretty much the same story all across whacko land.
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Let me repeat: There is not, there hasn't been and there likely never will be even a single evidence that there was another shooter than Oswald.
This has been proved all over again, while years go by. Everything regarding conspiracy, cia, fbi etc. is just complete bullshit. Just think why you do not believe it was only Oswald? Why it can't be single gunman? Because of the false information what you have read from the internet and newspapers. Like Bugliosi say, there were 53 concrete evidence pointing that Oswald was the shooter, and not even one single evidence pointing to any other direction. How this is possible? THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER DIRECTION. By any other way it is impossible. I quote: "Three people can keep the secret only if two of them are dead". This is the fact.
And if you wonder who the fuck this Bugliosi is, he is one of the best prosecutors in the history of USA. He has spend 20 years studying the Kennedy shooting by reading all the reports, looking all the evidence, all the previous studies etc. etc. so he knows what he is talking about. In that material which he saw during those 20 years, there wasn't anything what would link any other party than Oswald in the shooting by the evidence. Instead of that, he found lot of foil hat claims from that era and later years. In his book he butcher all these theories to the bone, and show how ridiculous they are.
VINCENT BUGLIOSI...WAS ON THE MANSON CASE...
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Let me repeat: There is not, there hasn't been and there likely never will be even a single evidence that there was another shooter than Oswald.
This has been proved all over again, while years go by. Everything regarding conspiracy, cia, fbi etc. is just complete bullshit. Just think why you do not believe it was only Oswald? Why it can't be single gunman? Because of the false information what you have read from the internet and newspapers. Like Bugliosi say, there were 53 concrete evidence pointing that Oswald was the shooter, and not even one single evidence pointing to any other direction. How this is possible? THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER DIRECTION. By any other way it is impossible. I quote: "Three people can keep the secret only if two of them are dead". This is the fact.
And if you wonder who the fuck this Bugliosi is, he is one of the best prosecutors in the history of USA. He has spend 20 years studying the Kennedy shooting by reading all the reports, looking all the evidence, all the previous studies etc. etc. so he knows what he is talking about. In that material which he saw during those 20 years, there wasn't anything what would link any other party than Oswald in the shooting by the evidence. Instead of that, he found lot of foil hat claims from that era and later years. In his book he butcher all these theories to the bone, and show how ridiculous they are.
It is well known that Castro was behind the execution. hence why the embargo still exists today and the numerous attempts by the CIA to kill him.
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It is well known that Castro was behind the execution. hence why the embargo still exists today and the numerous attempts by the CIA to kill him.
Evidence or fuck off back to la la land.
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Evidence or fuck off back to la la land.
https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Cuba_and_the_Kennedy_Assassination
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Let me repeat: There is not, there hasn't been and there likely never will be even a single evidence that there was another shooter than Oswald.
This has been proved all over again, while years go by. Everything regarding conspiracy, cia, fbi etc. is just complete bullshit. Just think why you do not believe it was only Oswald? Why it can't be single gunman? Because of the false information what you have read from the internet and newspapers. Like Bugliosi say, there were 53 concrete evidence pointing that Oswald was the shooter, and not even one single evidence pointing to any other direction. How this is possible? THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER DIRECTION. By any other way it is impossible. I quote: "Three people can keep the secret only if two of them are dead". This is the fact.
And if you wonder who the fuck this Bugliosi is, he is one of the best prosecutors in the history of USA. He has spend 20 years studying the Kennedy shooting by reading all the reports, looking all the evidence, all the previous studies etc. etc. so he knows what he is talking about. In that material which he saw during those 20 years, there wasn't anything what would link any other party than Oswald in the shooting by the evidence. Instead of that, he found lot of foil hat claims from that era and later years. In his book he butcher all these theories to the bone, and show how ridiculous they are.
Excellent book. Never knew about the assassination attempt on General Walker.
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https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Cuba_and_the_Kennedy_Assassination
Is there a connection between Cuba and the Kennedy assassination? Many researchers think so. A few point the finger at Fidel Castro, but many more point to the dangerous milieu of militant Cuban exiles, organized crime figures, and hardliners in the CIA frustrated over Kennedy's failure to get rid of Castro. These three groups were all involved together in plots to kill Fidel Castro. Did they turn their guns on Kennedy?
Much has been written on the climate of distrust created by Kennedy's vacillating policy on Cuba. Kennedy was bitterly blamed by many for failing to provide crucial support when the Bay of Pigs invasion turned sour. Less well known is that not everyone shared the modern-day notion that the resolution of the Cuban Missile Crisis was successful. Air Force chief Curtis LeMay told Kennedy to his face that this was "worse than the appeasement at Munich," a special dig given that JFK's father had opposed entry into World War II. The military had earlier in 1962 proposed creating pretexts for an invasion of Cuba (Operation Northwoods). The missiles provided Kennedy with an actual reason to invade, and he chose not to.
There is much more to the context of bitterness over JFK's Cuba policy, and the milieu in which CIA hardliners such as William Harvey and David Morales worked with organized crime figures including Johnny Roselli and Santos Trafficante, and with embittered and violent Cuban exile groups. But did this bitterness actually turn to plotting the murder of the President? Several books explore some of the individuals and stories which point in that direction, among them The Last Investigation, Someone Would Have Talked, and Deep Politics II.
Of interest here is the apparently false information connecting Oswald and Castro held in government files prior to November 22, 1963. On the afternoon of the assassination, FBI Director Hoover told Robert Kennedy that Oswald "made several trips to Cuba," something not supported by the record. Army Intelligence cabled the US Strike Command in Florida later the same day, providing two apparently false facts: that Oswald had defected to Cuba in 1959, and was a card-carrying member of the Communist Party. And it is unknown what caused RFK himself to call Cuban exile Harry Ruiz Williams on the same day and say "one of your boys did this."
Perhaps related to these stories is Oswald's trip to Mexico City and his probable impersonation there. Accounts of Oswald's being a hired gun of Castro's flooded from that city after the assassination, most provably false. Were these stories coordinated? Information about the trip seems to have been controlled pre-assassination by the Special Affairs Staff, CIA's special Cuba unit, even though supposedly the CIA had no notion that Oswald had visited the Cuban embassy. And Staff D, the secretive group which manned the listening posts which caught Oswald or an imposter on tape, happened to be the same group in which CIA's assassination plotting was housed. Is it possible there was a plan to pin false information on a framed and dead Oswald, and use it to launch an invasion of Cuba? And did then Oswald's capture put a freeze on such plans?
This is clearly speculation. However, there has unquestionably been CIA covering up related to the Mexico City trip and to other aspects of the assassination. It has been recently revealed that George Joannides, the man the CIA pulled out of retirement to serve as liason to the HSCA for document requests, had in fact been operational in 1963, in charge of a Cuban exile group called the DRE. It was the DRE which was in contact with Oswald in the summer of 1963 - Oswald and DRE member Carlos Bringuier were involved in a famous "scuffle" in August. When former HSCA Chief Counsel Robert Blakey learned that Joannides was not who he had been represented to be, Blakey wrote a scathing letter about it. A lawsuit against the CIA demanding further records is pending.
Did you even read that?
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Let me repeat: There is not, there hasn't been and there likely never will be even a single evidence that there was another shooter than Oswald.
This has been proved all over again, while years go by. Everything regarding conspiracy, cia, fbi etc. is just complete bullshit. Just think why you do not believe it was only Oswald? Why it can't be single gunman? Because of the false information what you have read from the internet and newspapers. Like Bugliosi say, there were 53 concrete evidence pointing that Oswald was the shooter, and not even one single evidence pointing to any other direction. How this is possible? THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER DIRECTION. By any other way it is impossible. I quote: "Three people can keep the secret only if two of them are dead". This is the fact.
And if you wonder who the fuck this Bugliosi is, he is one of the best prosecutors in the history of USA. He has spend 20 years studying the Kennedy shooting by reading all the reports, looking all the evidence, all the previous studies etc. etc. so he knows what he is talking about. In that material which he saw during those 20 years, there wasn't anything what would link any other party than Oswald in the shooting by the evidence. Instead of that, he found lot of foil hat claims from that era and later years. In his book he butcher all these theories to the bone, and show how ridiculous they are.
Interesting. I will have to look that up.
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What a stupid concpiracy theory, so they say it never happen? All the kids that lost some schoolfriend is lying, everyone that lived there or went to the school when they where younger is paid by the goverment to say that...
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Adam Lanza in 2009
(http://murderpedia.org/male.L/images/lanza-adam/adam-lanza-6.jpg)
Anyone who thinks the picture above of Adam Lanza in 2009 went from that to this in 2012 needs their head examined
Adam Lanza also supposedly in 2009
(http://murderpedia.org/male.L/images/lanza-adam/adam-lanza-7.jpg)
Are you saying that those are two seperate people?
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Are you saying that those are two seperate people?
I got the dates wrong but some are saying Adam is Ryan now...
(http://www.insanemedia.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ryan-lanza-yearbook-photo-2006-620x350.jpg)
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This picture here is when he was like 10 years old. Adam supposedly died with he was 20
(http://murderpedia.org/male.L/images/lanza-adam/adam-lanza-7.jpg)
(http://api.ning.com/files/JnABez2O-LVMh2ZGz9-rCN3HFyxMwzr6XsO2vYnnOVUYNDRjdCmc2p4l1xP2zTRUS9ndJC1zzInSZZtGBMHXRcFq1Xrl12F5/CaptureIn2009AdamLanzachangedhisnametoRyanLanza.JPG)
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Adam 2008-2009. Quite school in 2009 as Adam. Never really to be seen again...
ADAM LANZA
(http://murderpedia.org/male.L/images/lanza-adam/adam-lanza-6.jpg)
Changed his name to Ryan in 2009-2010
(https://tipggita32.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/1418450360_2036403043001_961896998-167-1355521574854.jpg?w=300)(http://www.insanemedia.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ryan-lanza-yearbook-photo-2006-620x350.jpg)
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This picture here is when he was like 10 years old. Adam supposedly died with he was 20
(http://murderpedia.org/male.L/images/lanza-adam/adam-lanza-7.jpg)
(http://api.ning.com/files/JnABez2O-LVMh2ZGz9-rCN3HFyxMwzr6XsO2vYnnOVUYNDRjdCmc2p4l1xP2zTRUS9ndJC1zzInSZZtGBMHXRcFq1Xrl12F5/CaptureIn2009AdamLanzachangedhisnametoRyanLanza.JPG)
haha thats not the same person comeon
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http://sandyhookanalysis.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/sandy-hook-hoax-claims-debunked.html
5. The claim that the shooter, AL, never existed.
•AL's death certificate: http://s30.postimg.org/hve4lsvj4/adamdcpng.jpg
•Timeline: AL’s Life and Online Activity: http://sandyhooklighthouse.wordpress.com/2013/09/07/timeline-adam-lanzas-life-and-online-activity
•AL's American Express for AAA Prepaid Card: http://imgur.com/YMuGWtV.jpg
•AL's Newtown Technology Team ID: http://imgur.com/wC6gjmr.jpg
•Seacoast historian: Connecticut shooter born in Exeter: http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20121216-NEWS-121219808
•Peter and Nancy Lanza's divorce papers: http://www.scribd.com/doc/117174624/2687-001
•Classmate says AL attended Sandy Hook school: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2012/12/18/adam-lanza-sandy-hook-student/1777525
•A former classmate who was in a computer repair class with AL in 2008 at Newtown High School: "My family members are safe, but my friend's little sister was killed. My best friend's nephew was getting ready to go to afternoon kindergarten at Sandy Hook when they got the call about the active shooter situation. I know almost all of the families of the victims. I used to play little league baseball at Sandy Hook elementary and went to smart camp there in the summer. the most memorable part about the school were the big colorful painted footprints on the long driveway to the school. I had a class with AL in 2008. It was computer repair with Mr. Swetts at Newtown High School. He had an autism spectrum disorder. He was a very quiet and polite kid. The most disturbing part is that in that class kids brought in counter strike 1.6 on discs and installed it. the classroom was set up so there was an area for lessons, and an area for repair, and the teacher's office. while the teacher was in his office or helping kids repair, we would play counter strike on lan and AL would play with us. i even did a group project with him. he was incredibly smart, and basically fixed the whole computer by himself while i was goofing off. i tried to be nice to him every day. He never once spoke as long as i knew him. if he smiled he only smirked. he clearly had a lot going on in his mind. he was fearful of people, he would always walk right up against the side of the hallway, with eyes to the ground clutching his briefcase that he carried instead of a backpack. if anyone bothered him or bumped into him he would clutch his briefcase against his chest. he was really small and weak. It was clear that he had an interest in guns. It fills me with so much anger that this happened. I know where he lives, and from his house he would have driven past the high school to get to the elementary school. I believe that he was afraid that security guards or high school kids would be strong enough to tackle him or overpower him, so he chose the elementary school for the easiest possible people to kill. Writing this makes me feel sick to my stomach." http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/comment/7811263/#Comment_7811263
•A mother's daughter who graduated the same year as AL at Sandy Hook Elementary School: "It is well known that Lanza was a total nutcase, though. He graduated the same year as my oldest and she used to see him in the hall. He would cringe against the wall if anyone even looked at him. As a child, he used to stand against the wall at recess and hiss at children if they approached him. He never should have been in public school and why his rich parents didn’t find a more appropriate setting for him, I don’t know. The father hadn’t spoken to him in a couple of years before this happened and the mother was busy boozing it up at the local bar while she left him home playing violent video games in a house full of guns that weren’t locked up safely. It was a recipe for disaster." http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/sandy-hook-tragedy-an-inquisitive-visit-to-newtown-connecticut/#comment-55332
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/sandy-hook-tragedy-an-inquisitive-visit-to-newtown-connecticut/#comment-55333
•Connecticut school shooting: AL was assigned psychologist: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9750422/Connecticut-school-shooting-Adam-Lanza-was-assigned-psychologist.html
•EXCLUSIVE: Nancy Lanza feared son, AL, was ‘getting worse’; told friend ‘he was burning himself with a lighter’ and that she was 'losing him': http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/nancy-lanza-feared-son-adam-worse-article-1.1221505
•EXCLUSIVE: Revealed, the family secret that haunted the tragic mother of Sandy Hook shooter, her plans to find a new home for her troubled son - and how she feared 'her time was running out': http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250173/Nancy-Lanza-Her-time-running-Sandy-Hook-shooters-mom-feared-end-coming-discovering-dark-family-secret.html
•Newtown Shooting: Could the Gunman Feel No Pain?: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/newtown-shooting-gunman-feel-pain/story?id=17996682
•AL’s barber: Newtown killer’s mother ran his life, spoke for him: http://www.kdvr.com/2012/12/20/adam-lanzas-barber-newtown-killers-mother-ran-his-life-spoke-for-him
•Who Was AL, And What Was The Nature Of His Relationship With His Mother?: http://www.ctnow.com/news/connecticut/newtown-sandy-hook-school-shooting/hc-raising-adam-lanza-20130217,0,4325586,full.story
•AL calls in radio station a year before Sandy Hook shooting and gives bizarre interview — LISTEN TO THE TAPE: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/exclusive-lanza-twisted-call-radio-station-article-1.1580984
•The Day the FBI Knocked on AL’s Door: http://www.newsweek.com/day-fbi-knocked-adam-lanzas-door-226657
•CFS 1200704559\Book 7\00029167.pdf: Detective Paul Lukienchuk and Jeremy Combes interviewing Christian Hasen, who taught the NRA safety courses to both Nancy and AL, recognizing AL from a media picture: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3-vhpZ_3PTLdTdzNEFUYXZGZGM/edit?usp=sharing
•CFS 1200704559\Book 7\00222826.pdf, page 4 has AL and Nancy on the sign-in sheet at Shooters Pistol Range: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3-vhpZ_3PTLRGlKUVg1Wjk4aW8/edit?usp=sharing
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This was all a false flag to divert attention from the 2015 Mr Olympia in an effort to immasculate American men.
Clearly it worked.
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Lanza talks to radio show about monkey year before sandy hook
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What a stupid concpiracy theory, so they say it never happen? All the kids that lost some schoolfriend is lying, everyone that lived there or went to the school when they where younger is paid by the goverment to say that...
That is what they are trying, but now we know why:
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/scientists-tried-trolling-conspiracy-theorists?utm_source=mbfb (http://motherboard.vice.com/read/scientists-tried-trolling-conspiracy-theorists?utm_source=mbfb)
"This focus on liking and sharing only from conspiracy theory pages also keeps conspiracy theorists posting and sharing amongst themselves, and rarely venture to comment or like things on the science pages. The science page users get a little more variety in their liking and commenting, but the study notes that there's no accounting for irony.
This was also a slight problem when the researchers looked at how members of each community would react to totally unsubstantiated rumors.
“To test potential biases induced by the continued exposure to unsubstantiated rumors on users’ content selection," the wrote, "we conclude our analysis measuring how users respond to 4,709 troll information—i.e. parodistic and sarcastic imitation of conspiracy theories. We find that 77.92 percent of likes and 80.86 percent of comments are from users usually interacting with conspiracy stories.”
So you've got a group of people who only engage with each other, do so vehemently, and are incapable of recognizing when they're being ridiculed. It's almost like being inoculated from critical thinking, but then, we can say pretty definitively that that isn't the case."
So, the study sums up what I have always said about the foil hat morons: They really are the most stupid humans on earth, and in my point of view, this explains why their theories are so fucking ridiculous. They are incapable to think with their tiny and insufficient brains ;D
Do I have to say more? I will anyway: in this thread they show their stupidity so overwhelmingly clear, that study have to be 100% correct. Just after opening pages there is a question, "how Lanza were able to hide his AR-15 to the trunk of his car after he was dead" and the picture about the police holding a shotgun, without any pistol grip, without any magazine, simply without any marks that it is anything but shotgun. How they even are able to mix one of the most recognizable weapon to the single barrel shotgun? I bet that every fucking 3 years old in USA can see that difference from the picture just using their toes, but you still can fool a foil hat moron? These guys has to be brain dead, because nothing else can explain that level of stupidity. Are these guys really those who will became a zombies when their brains are rotten enough? At least then you will be able to shot them with the permit ;D
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Haha yes they are stupid...i friend of mine is constantly posting conspiracys about the moonlanding, 9/11 etc. One time he posted a pic where it said one guy was a isis leader the other was john kerry ...quick google search showed the so called isis leader was infact a volounter for a help organisation in syria or somethinh like that...i said that but he ignored my post....just a couple of days ago hw posted a video with the titel "nasa scientist admits they cant get trough the van der allen belt" and said it was proof that usa never went to the moon...i watched the video and no where did the scientist say that lol.
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haha thats not the same person comeon
Adam is 10 years old in that Elementary school photo...And his eyes are obviously photoshopped to look crazy. The 2nd photo guy to the left is also Adam Lanza. 8+years after that silly 10 year old's picture. Why on earth would the media use a picture of Adam Lanza when he was basically a baby? A child when pictures of Adam Lanza are around with him well into his teens? Some are saying they used the child photo because older Adam looks very much like Ryan Lanza. Ryan's wearing blue contacts and parts his hair retardedly way to the side now. Also in the photo of child Adam, his nose has been grossing photoshopped in every media picture...
This is not what Adam Lanza looked like...What kind of fucking nose is that. lol. The whole image has been computer generated to make him look crazy.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/16/article-2540411-1AB5D15F00000578-194_306x423.jpg)
Adam Lanza's school photo as a child
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtnYne9-i4c2NFCzI363DS-2ORb0KvQ7iIAqhKVBRBcbeTxWUzzQ)
Real Adam Lanza as a teen/adult
(http://murderpedia.org/male.L/images/lanza-adam/adam-lanza-6.jpg)
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There is no town of Sandy Hook, the whole thing is made up........oh, wait, i thought there is more than one gunman and it is real, oh wait, the kids aren't really dead,and they are stupid enough to let them take publicity photos with the president oh wait..every mass shooting is fake, the government has invented whole towns and communities that don't exist in seven different towns and nobody has been able to say a thing about it even on the internet.
Fucking idiots. some morons need to think they know something everyone else doesn't know.
Where is Palpatine Q/Groink these days? A now well know fucking scammer saying the Gov doesn't scam people. Talk about sticking together. LMFAO
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Adam Lanza as a 12/13 year old
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Ryan Lanza at around same age
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This is from a fake Facebook account. Someone trying to pass off brown eyed Ryan as Blue eyed Adam
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Brown eyed Ryan as a teen
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Blue eyed Adam with very distinctive ears and bulbous nose.
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It doesn't take much to take some anti social teen and make him hate the world and do stupid things.
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Wealthy dad Peter Lanza has very likely had a nose job at some stage. As a young man he had a nose with a thick bridge just like Adam.
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pictures were on Ryan Lanza's Facebook page at time of shooting.
Pictures of himself.
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Adam is 10 years old in that Elementary school photo...And his eyes are obviously photoshopped to look crazy. The 2nd photo guy to the left is also Adam Lanza. 8+years after that silly 10 year old's picture. Why on earth would the media use a picture of Adam Lanza when he was basically a baby? A child when pictures of Adam Lanza are around with him well into his teens? Some are saying they used the child photo because older Adam looks very much like Ryan Lanza. Ryan's wearing blue contacts and parts his hair retardedly way to the side now. Also in the photo of child Adam, his nose has been grossing photoshopped in every media picture...
This is not what Adam Lanza looked like...What kind of fucking nose is that. lol. The whole image has been computer generated to make him look crazy.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/16/article-2540411-1AB5D15F00000578-194_306x423.jpg)
Adam Lanza's school photo as a child
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtnYne9-i4c2NFCzI363DS-2ORb0KvQ7iIAqhKVBRBcbeTxWUzzQ)
Real Adam Lanza as a teen/adult
(http://murderpedia.org/male.L/images/lanza-adam/adam-lanza-6.jpg)
Well, if you are stupid enough to mix AR-15 to the single barrel shotgun, it really would be too much to ask that you would realize the differences of human faces. You still should understand that everybody else can see it, so what will you look when you present faces of the two different guy as a face of Adam Lanza? You could be moronically proud about yourself, but everybody else see you as a mentally ill loser. You have to understand that I am not kidding when I say that your level of stupidity is impossible without serious mental handicap. It isn't a joke, it is a fact, nowadays scientifically proved one. Read the study, learn, get treatment..
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So, which Lanza is the guilty one?
Adam? Ryan?
Bulbous nose? Blue-eyed? Brown-eyed?
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Mentally weak people committing suicide is a good thing.
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Is there any possible way to see the original video? Or can someone point me to an enlightened video / website on Sandy Hook? With all of the FOIA confirmed proof of government funded false flags, I don’t understand how anyone can’t at least be open to the idea that our sick ass government (yes BOTH PARTIES - sorry) would go to any length for an objective. I don’t think it’s wise to blindly believe just because you WANT to believe - but it’s just as stupid to dismiss things because “they wouldn’t ever do THAT”
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Mentally weak people committing suicide is a good thing.
Could it be homicide staged as suicide? A bit strange that 3 persons commited suicide. Maybe they were becoming a liability.
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Is there any possible way to see the original video? Or can someone point me to an enlightened video / website on Sandy Hook? With all of the FOIA confirmed proof of government funded false flags, I don’t understand how anyone can’t at least be open to the idea that our sick ass government (yes BOTH PARTIES - sorry) would go to any length for an objective. I don’t think it’s wise to blindly believe just because you WANT to believe - but it’s just as stupid to dismiss things because “they wouldn’t ever do THAT”
The amount of inconsistencies leads people to believe it was false.
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Mentally weak people committing suicide is a good thing.
Sometimes the pain of losing a child is unbearable….for anyone
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Is there any possible way to see the original video? Or can someone point me to an enlightened video / website on Sandy Hook? With all of the FOIA confirmed proof of government funded false flags, I don’t understand how anyone can’t at least be open to the idea that our sick ass government (yes BOTH PARTIES - sorry) would go to any length for an objective. I don’t think it’s wise to blindly believe just because you WANT to believe - but it’s just as stupid to dismiss things because “they wouldn’t ever do THAT”
https://www.tiktok.com/@conspiracies_r_us/video/7295980671464525102
https://www.bitchute.com/video/uKyJH5633hmQ/
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https://www.tiktok.com/@conspiracies_r_us/video/7295980671464525102
https://www.bitchute.com/video/uKyJH5633hmQ/
Thanks man - I don’t have the ticstoc thing, but I checked out the other short video. It did look sus, but then I would need a lot more than that. As far as that channel I clicked and saw that he has “Alex Jones is Bill Hicks” - that is something that I know for a fact is stupid. I met Alex back in the early 90’s when we were just kids. He isn’t Hicks
I’ll do some searching, because one thing I do know is that although Alex has backed off for obvious reasons at one time he felt strongly about the false flag of SH. Alex has been proven right MANY times when he was called insane
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Sometimes the pain of losing a child is unbearable….for anyone
That is absolutely true. It’s also something I won’t judge because i can’t fathom myself in those shoes or what I would do.
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Is there any possible way to see the original video? Or can someone point me to an enlightened video / website on Sandy Hook? With all of the FOIA confirmed proof of government funded false flags, I don’t understand how anyone can’t at least be open to the idea that our sick ass government (yes BOTH PARTIES - sorry) would go to any length for an objective. I don’t think it’s wise to blindly believe just because you WANT to believe - but it’s just as stupid to dismiss things because “they wouldn’t ever do THAT”
Good post
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https://www.tiktok.com/@conspiracies_r_us/video/7295980671464525102
https://www.bitchute.com/video/uKyJH5633hmQ/
The conspiracy theorist narrating this is an idiot.
Something has always seemed a bit 'off' about Sandy hook. The entire way it was reported and especially the coverage or lack of coverage of Adam Lanza. And the immediate politicizing it, wasnt that in the lead up to an election too?
This guy smiling seconds before going on tv and crying, though seemingly odd behavior, proves nothing. While the narrator offets it up as indisputable proof of widespread conspiracy and furthermore you're an idiot if you don't see it his way.
It is literally proof of nothing. It's proof that he felt he needed to continue to be the 'grieving parent' because thats what they're putting him on TV for. And he did it badly. It offers nothing to confirm a conspiracy but plenty to fuel a conspiracy theory.