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Title: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 08:53:17 AM
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Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 08:55:45 AM
Flip it around and then it bashes liberal.   8)


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: TommyBoy on January 17, 2013, 08:55:49 AM
No matter which side of the fence you are on...



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Title: Re: Listen up Republicans.
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 08:57:16 AM
i see, ta is back to sane again.

yeah the gop the self proclaimed liberty warriors who dont want homos to have sex or exist at all.



???

I don`t consider myself either.

I am against gun control legislation but fully support abortion rights. I am for more freedom and less ineffective government regulation.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: kh300 on January 17, 2013, 09:10:35 AM
It really doesn't matter if I'm a republican or a liberal. Doesn't matter if I go to church twice a week or worship the devil. I just want to live my life the way I want to live it. Of course I have to follow the laws of the land and the laws of society. But other then that I could give a fuck what you do, as long as you leave me the fuck alone.

Both sides are guilty of telling the other what to do and how to live their lives. But honestly I think its the left that the most guilty of this. They call themselves 'progressives' and act like they are enlightened to tell us what we can and can't do. Fuck all of you. If I want to carry a gun its my right. If you want to have an abortion, thats your choice, not mine. Besides we don't need more unwanted babies that turn into criminals.

If you don't like fox news or cnn, change the fucking channel and shut up. Be at peace with what is. Focus on your life and how you can help people and make the world a better place. You'll never achieve that by telling people what they can't do and by stripping them of their freedoms.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 09:29:55 AM
It really doesn't matter if I'm a republican or a liberal. Doesn't matter if I go to church twice a week or worship the devil. I just want to live my life the way I want to live it. Of course I have to follow the laws of the land and the laws of society. But other then that I could give a fuck what you do, as long as you leave me the fuck alone.

Both sides are guilty of telling the other what to do and how to live their lives. But honestly I think its the left that the most guilty of this. They call themselves 'progressives' and act like they are enlightened to tell us what we can and can't do. Fuck all of you. If I want to carry a gun its my right. If you want to have an abortion, thats your choice, not mine. Besides we don't need more unwanted babies that turn into criminals.

If you don't like fox news or cnn, change the fucking channel and shut up. Be at peace with what is. Focus on your life and how you can help people and make the world a better place. You'll never achieve that by telling people what they can't do and by stripping them of their freedoms.

And, therein lies the controversy. Which philosophy/doctrine should determine the laws of society,

Secular progressivism/humanism or Judeo-Christian philosophy?

From my point of view, liberals are "pro-choice" when it comes to killing children in the womb but not so much "pro-choice", as it relates to educating them outside the womb. They want our children to go to public schools; but, you'd have to put guns to their heads to get THEIR kids into public schools (especially in places like Chicago and D.C., DOMINATED by Democrats).

Some are all about saving the earth and hate big oil; yet, the poster boy of green energy just dumped his failing left-winged cable news network on Al-Jazeera (run by the BIGGEST OIL BARONS on the planet) for half a billion dollars (pocketing about $75 million himself). And, for all his talk about paying higher taxes to do his "fair share", he tried to close this deal before Obama's tax hikes kicked into gear.

Liberals are all for "gay rights" but not so much for polygamist rights or pedophile rights (for now, at least).

I mean, if you don't think that marriage is one man and one woman, what's the difference between changing the gender rules (for gays) and changing the numbers rules (for polygamists) or the age rules (for pedos)?

We have libs, crying for the "Fairness Doctrine" in media. Yet, they've been breaking their necks, trying to get Fox News and conservative talk radio yanked off their air.


Racism and sexism WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.......UNLESS the targets are minorities and women who are conservatives.

It sounds like that old saying: Liberals believe that laws and rules are for everybody......ELSE!!!



Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 09:31:55 AM
And, therein lies the controversy. Which philosophy/doctrine should determine the laws of society,

Secular progressivism/humanism or Judeo-Christian philosophy?

From my point of view, liberals are "pro-choice" when it comes to killing children in the womb but not so much "pro-choice", as it relates to educating them outside the womb. They want our children to go to public schools; but, you'd have to put guns to their heads to get THEIR kids into public schools (especially in places like Chicago and D.C., DOMINATED by Democrats Stupid Black People).

Some are all about saving the earth and hate big oil; yet, the poster boy of green energy just dumped his failing left-winged cable news network on Al-Jazeera (run by the BIGGEST OIL BARONS on the planet) for half a billion dollars (pocketing about $75 million himself). And, for all his talk about paying higher taxes to do his "fair share", he tried to close this deal before Obama's tax hikes kicked into gear.

Liberals are all for "gay rights" but not so much for polygamist rights or pedophile rights (for now, at least).

I mean, if you don't think that marriage is one man and one woman, what's the difference between changing the gender rules (for gays) and changing the numbers rules (for polygamists) or the age rules (for pedos)?

It sounds like that old saying: Liberals believe that laws and rules are for everybody......ELSE!!!

Fixed.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 09:32:48 AM
And, therein lies the controversy. Which philosophy/doctrine should determine the laws of society,

Secular progressivism/humanism or Judeo-Christian philosophy?

From my point of view, liberals are "pro-choice" when it comes to killing children in the womb but not so much "pro-choice", as it relates to educating them outside the womb. They want our children to go to public schools; but, you'd have to put guns to their heads to get THEIR kids into public schools (especially in places like Chicago and D.C., DOMINATED by Democrats).

Some are all about saving the earth and hate big oil; yet, the poster boy of green energy just dumped his failing left-winged cable news network on Al-Jazeera (run by the BIGGEST OIL BARONS on the planet) for half a billion dollars (pocketing about $75 million himself). And, for all his talk about paying higher taxes to do his "fair share", he tried to close this deal before Obama's tax hikes kicked into gear.

Liberals are all for "gay rights" but not so much for polygamist rights or pedophile rights (for now, at least).

I mean, if you don't think that marriage is one man and one woman, what's the difference between changing the gender rules (for gays) and changing the numbers rules (for polygamists) or the age rules (for pedos)?

We have libs, crying for the "Fairness Doctrine" in media. Yet, they've been breaking their necks, trying to get Fox News and conservative talk radio yanked off their air.


Racism and sexism WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.......UNLESS the targets are minorities and women who are conservatives.

It sounds like that old saying: Liberals believe that laws and rules are for everybody......ELSE!!!


I support polygamist rights and think the age of consent should be lowered.  Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 09:34:02 AM
Fixed.

I had it right the first time. DEMOCRATS! And, in case you missed it, Adonis, there are plenty of stupid white people who contribute to this madness as well.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 09:35:33 AM
I had it right the first time. DEMOCRATS! And, in case you missed it, Adonis, there are plenty of stupid white people who contribute to this madness as well.
No.  The problem of Chicago and DC, the cities you mentioned,  are the blacks.  Do you need proof?


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 09:36:29 AM
I support polygamist rights and think the age of consent should be lowered.  Hope this helps.

Lowered to what? 10? 12? I'm sure the NAMBLA bubbas will be sending you Christmas cards.

As for polygamy, talk about foot in the mouth, you're the same guy, who keep wailing about Islam and Muslims (the main practitioners of polygamy, these days). Were they to get a foothold in this country (as they have in others), you'd be having a coronary about it.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 09:38:24 AM
No.  The problem of Chicago and DC, the cities you mentioned,  are the blacks.  Do you need proof?

They're on the low end of the totem pole. By and large, they're not the one scratching the laws. And those problems go beyond those two cities.

Besides, were it not for "stupid black people", your beloved Obama would not still be in office.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 09:39:16 AM
Lowered to what? 10? 12? I'm sure the NAMBLA bubbas will be sending you Christmas cards.

As for polygamy, talk about foot in the mouth, you're the same guy, who keep wailing about Islam and Muslims (the main practitioners of polygamy, these days). Were they to get a foothold in this country (as they have in others), you'd be having a coronary about it.

I have no problem with what anyone does in the bedroom between consenting human being regardless of age.  I don`t hate the Muslims because they are polygamist, I hate them because they are just like you, religious morons but a lot more violent.  You are just as stupid as they are, but are less violent.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 17, 2013, 09:39:38 AM
No.  The problem of Chicago and DC, the cities you mentioned,  are the blacks.  Do you need proof?

No shit.  Take all the stupid black people out of DC and Chicago and those places would be ghost towns.  Crime free ones though for the most part.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans.
Post by: Option D on January 17, 2013, 09:41:45 AM
???

I don`t consider myself either.

I am against gun control legislation but fully support abortion rights. I am for more freedom and less ineffective government regulation.

This


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: Option D on January 17, 2013, 09:43:25 AM
I think some people here give blacks too much credit....they arent the ones pullint the strings.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 17, 2013, 09:44:42 AM
And, therein lies the controversy. Which philosophy/doctrine should determine the laws of society,

Secular progressivism/humanism or Judeo-Christian philosophy?

From my point of view, liberals are "pro-choice" when it comes to killing children in the womb but not so much "pro-choice", as it relates to educating them outside the womb. They want our children to go to public schools; but, you'd have to put guns to their heads to get THEIR kids into public schools (especially in places like Chicago and D.C., DOMINATED by Democrats).

Some are all about saving the earth and hate big oil; yet, the poster boy of green energy just dumped his failing left-winged cable news network on Al-Jazeera (run by the BIGGEST OIL BARONS on the planet) for half a billion dollars (pocketing about $75 million himself). And, for all his talk about paying higher taxes to do his "fair share", he tried to close this deal before Obama's tax hikes kicked into gear.

Liberals are all for "gay rights" but not so much for polygamist rights or pedophile rights (for now, at least).

I mean, if you don't think that marriage is one man and one woman, what's the difference between changing the gender rules (for gays) and changing the numbers rules (for polygamists) or the age rules (for pedos)?

We have libs, crying for the "Fairness Doctrine" in media. Yet, they've been breaking their necks, trying to get Fox News and conservative talk radio yanked off their air.


Racism and sexism WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.......UNLESS the targets are minorities and women who are conservatives.

It sounds like that old saying: Liberals believe that laws and rules are for everybody......ELSE!!!



#1  God himself is Pro Choice and has performed abortions himself.  So you really have no argument there.  

#2  Marriage is the union of 2 human consenting adults.  Poly-marriage goes against this as it is more than 2.  Pedo-marriage goes against this because one of the "consenting adults" is missing.  Animal-marriage which dumbass homophobes try to link to the next step after gay marriage goes against this because the animal is neither human nor consenting.  Same thing for the argument about marrying trees, rocks, etc..

Denying two consenting adults the right to marry is simple bigotry.  Hiding behind a fabricated book of stories is just ignorant.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans.
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 09:44:54 AM
This
Why aren`t there more blacks be like you Option D?  Why do you think this is?  I have a few theories of my own such as the social pressures when it comes to going against "The Black Community" that have been established by blacks writ large and their lack of acceptance to anyone who "betrays" their culture.  


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 17, 2013, 09:46:01 AM
Yes, the Black Communities need more Big Mals, Parkers and Wiggsies.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 09:46:33 AM
I think some people here give blacks too much credit....they arent the ones pullint the strings.
They are the ones who destroy the strings, steal them, and then use them to kill each other ala Detroit.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 17, 2013, 09:46:46 AM
I think some people here give blacks too much credit....they arent the ones pullint the strings.

Maybe you should :

A- Not be black.
B- Not be so lazy you can't pull strings.
C- Not give blacks any credit at all.
D - wanna fight?


LOL


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 09:47:22 AM
I have no problem with what anyone does in the bedroom between consenting human being regardless of age.  I don`t hate the Muslims because they are polygamist, I hate them because they are just like you, religious morons but a lot more violent.  You are just as stupid as they are, but are less violent.

Yes, you do have a problem with what they do in the bedroom.

Why? Because the primary purpose of polygamy is something you LOATHE like the plague: HAVING LOTS OF CHILDREN.

Perhaps, you hate them because they're just like YOU: Arrogant, dismissive jerks, who insult anyone who doesn't think like them, and thus feel such people should be wiped out.

The only difference is that the Muslims will tell you to your face they wish to exterminate and justify such via religion. You justify such via humanism; yet you hide your true desires, like the coward you are.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 09:47:59 AM
#1  God himself is Pro Choice and has performed abortions himself.  So you really have no argument there.  

#2  Marriage is the union of 2 human consenting adults.  Poly-marriage goes against this as it is more than 2.  Pedo-marriage goes against this because one of the "consenting adults" is missing.  Animal-marriage which dumbass homophobes try to link to the next step after gay marriage goes against this because the animal is neither human nor consenting.  Same thing for the argument about marrying trees, rocks, etc..

Denying two consenting adults the right to marry is simple bigotry.  Hiding behind a fabricated book of stories is just ignorant.

I don`t agree with the marriage part here.  I think Poly-Marriage is perfectly fine and should be legal.  I think age should not matter between consenting humans.  I have no problem if somebody wants to marry a duck or a cat or a Fence Post.  Why should I care?


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans.
Post by: jakew300 on January 17, 2013, 09:48:50 AM
???

I don`t consider myself either.

I am against gun control legislation but fully support abortion rights. I am for more freedom and less ineffective government regulation.
Libertarian leaning?


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 09:48:59 AM
No shit.  Take all the stupid black people out of DC and Chicago and those places would be ghost towns.  Crime free ones though for the most part.

Take all the "stupid black people" out of DC and Chicago and the Bills would win a Super Bowl, before liberals would win another presidential election.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 09:52:39 AM
Yes, you do have a problem with what they do in the bedroom.

Why? Because the primary purpose of polygamy is something you LOATHE like the plague: HAVING LOTS OF CHILDREN.

Perhaps, you hate them because they're just like YOU: Arrogant, dismissive jerks, who insult anyone who doesn't think like them, and thus feel such people should be wiped out.

The only difference is that the Muslims will tell you to your face they wish to exterminate and justify such via religion. You justify such via humanism; yet you hide your true desires, like the coward you are.
I don`t have a problem with what anyone does in the bedroom.  I don`t care if they have a 30 children as long as they are not getting an unfair advantage because they are breeding.  I also think overpopulation is a problem and should not be rewarded in any way (tax breaks etc....)  I hate Muslims more than all other religions (and I do LOATHE all religions) because they are the most violent and ignorant although not by too much when compared to someone like you who think the earth is only 6000 years old- a belief you both share.

Their ignorance should be wiped out, certainly.  How to do that is only by education.  The same goes for you.

And for the record, I think you are a coward and no, I do not hide my desires.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 09:53:47 AM
#1  God himself is Pro Choice and has performed abortions himself.  So you really have no argument there.

Hardly!! But thanks for playing.

 

#2  Marriage is the union of 2 human consenting adults.  Poly-marriage goes against this as it is more than 2.  Pedo-marriage goes against this because one of the "consenting adults" is missing.  Animal-marriage which dumbass homophobes try to link to the next step after gay marriage goes against this because the animal is neither human nor consenting.  Same thing for the argument about marrying trees, rocks, etc..

Denying two consenting adults the right to marry is simple bigotry.  Hiding behind a fabricated book of stories is just ignorant.

Look who's talking about ignorant. Who makes the call that it's two adults? YOU? Guess what!! Some of the same folks who lobbied for gay "marriage" are now suggesting that pedophilia is merely another sexual orientation (as predicted).

And, if it's just an orientation, then your denying people such makes YOU, guilty of harboring much the same "bigotry" as those who claim marriage is one man and one woman.

After all, if they LOOOOOOOVE each other, who is it harming?  ::) Who are YOU to say they can't LOOOOOOOVE a kid? Or LLOOOOOOVE more than one adult at one time?




Title: Re: Listen up Republicans.
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 09:54:17 AM
Libertarian leaning?
Not always.  For instance, I do not think someone should be allowed to mine Uranium on their property if its going to affect the drinking water of millions of people by killing them.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 17, 2013, 09:55:11 AM
Take all the "stupid black people" out of DC and Chicago and the Bills would win a Super Bowl, before liberals would win another presidential election.

As long as your party is running shitty candidates like they did in the last two elections, the Dems have a lock on the WH.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 09:56:24 AM
As long as your party is running shitty candidates like they did in the last two elections, the Dems have a lock on the WH.
I don`t agree.  Right now, if there were an election held today, Obama WOULD NOT win.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 09:57:44 AM
I don`t have a problem with what anyone does in the bedroom.  I don`t care if they have a 30 children as long as they are not getting an unfair advantage because they are breeding.  I also think overpopulation is a problem and should not be rewarded in any way (tax breaks etc....)  I hate Muslims more than all other religions (and I do LOATHE all religions) because they are the most violent and ignorant although not by too much when compared to someone like you who think the earth is only 6000 years old- a belief you both share.

Their ignorance should be wiped out, certainly.  How to do that is only by education.  The same goes for you.

And for the record, I think you are a coward and no, I do not hide my desires.

Yes, you do care how many kids they have, because you're constantly whining about overpopulation. Tax breaks have nothing to do with that supposed issue. You're basically just envious about getting the cash, which should hold no bearing, in terms of the amount of people on this planet.

And, of course, you want their so-called ignorance to be wiped out. What happened if "education" doesn't work? BTW, the Muslims fell YOU are ignorance and that such should be wiped out.

How to do that is only by conversion to Islam. Of course, if you don't convert, there's plan B. But, that might involve your being atomized or your head removed from your body.

Note the similarities!!!


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 09:59:03 AM
As long as your party is running shitty candidates like they did in the last two elections, the Dems have a lock on the WH.

Then, that means you thought Bush was a great candidate. 92 and 89% of black voters went Democrat in 2000 and 2004, respectively.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 10:04:33 AM
Yes, you do care how many kids they have, because you're constantly whining about overpopulation. Tax breaks have nothing to do with that supposed issue. You're basically just envious about getting the cash, which should hold no bearing, in terms of the amount of people on this planet.

And, of course, you want their so-called ignorance to be wiped out. What happened if "education" doesn't work? BTW, the Muslims fell YOU are ignorance and that such should be wiped out.

How to do that is only by conversion to Islam. Of course, if you don't convert, there's plan B. But, that might involve your being atomized or your head removed from your body.

Note the similarities!!!
Overpopulation is a problem, especially when stupid people breed.  (which so happens to be the most prevalent amongst those with lower IQs statistically speaking)  Extra humans only screw things up for those of us who are already here.  There is a tipping point where resources become strained in an increasing population and its best to never approach that direction or even come close to it.

Eliminating ignorance depends on a major cultural change and shift that can only be brought on by facts, evidence and the extermination of superstition and superstitious thought through a raising of the collective intelligence amongst a group.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 17, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
Hardly!! But thanks for playing.

Look who's talking about ignorant. Who makes the call that it's two adults? YOU? Guess what!! Some of the same folks who lobbied for gay "marriage" are now suggesting that pedophilia is merely another sexual orientation (as predicted).

And, if it's just an orientation, then your denying people such makes YOU, guilty of harboring much the same "bigotry" as those who claim marriage is one man and one woman.

After all, if they LOOOOOOOVE each other, who is it harming?  ::) Who are YOU to say they can't LOOOOOOOVE a kid? Or LLOOOOOOVE more than one adult at one time?




1 - Are you denying God killed children in the womb?  It's there in the Bible.  "Thanks for playing".

2 - Who is to say who is an adult?  I would think the already established age of consent that exists for marriage now would suffice.  In your blind hatred of the queers you are just babbling on as you usually do.  No surprise.  Just as interracial marriage was illegal until 1967, there is going to come a day when gay marriage is going to be legal as well.  Hope you are prepared for that.  


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 17, 2013, 10:05:56 AM
I don`t agree.  Right now, if there were an election held today, Obama WOULD NOT win.

Yeah.  Only if the candidate were not Palin, Romney, Trump, Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Newt, Frothy, or Ryan.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 10:07:16 AM
Yeah.  Only if the candidate were not Palin, Romney, Trump, Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Newt, Frothy, or Ryan.
That part is true.  Obama vs Christie today would be close and I think Christie would pull it off.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: jakew300 on January 17, 2013, 10:07:39 AM
1 - Are you denying God killed children in the womb?  It's there in the Bible.  "Thanks for playing".

2 - Who is to say who is an adult?  I would think the already established age of consent that exists for marriage now would suffice.  In your blind hatred of the queers you are just babbling on as you usually do.  No surprise.  Just as interracial marriage was illegal until 1967, there is going to come a day when gay marriage is going to be legal as well.  Hope you are prepared for that.  
Can you tell me where in the Bible?


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 17, 2013, 10:08:18 AM
Then, that means you thought Bush was a great candidate. 92 and 89% of black voters went Democrat in 2000 and 2004, respectively.

Didn't vote in those elections.  However, compared to Kerry I would say that Bush was better.  The only reason Bush won a second term was because Kerry was such a schmuck and Edwards gave people heartburn every time he appeared on tv.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 10:10:24 AM
Can you tell me where in the Bible?
God promises to destroy the infants of Samaria and rip open the stomachs of pregnant women.


The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open. (Hosea 13:16)


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 10:10:55 AM
Can you tell me where in the Bible?
God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah to be ripped open.

At that time Menahem, starting out from Tirzah, attacked Tiphsah and everyone in the city and its vicinity, because they refused to open their gates. He sacked Tiphsah and ripped open all the pregnant women. (2 Kings 15:16)


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 10:11:30 AM
Can you tell me where in the Bible?
God repays your enemies by destroying their babies.

Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us. He who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. (Psalms 137:8-9)


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 17, 2013, 10:13:49 AM
Can you tell me where in the Bible?

Just do a search.  God punished and cursed a region with "miscarrying wombs" and promised to slay the "beloved fruit of their wombs".  Moses was told to kill all the males of the little ones and any woman that had laid down with man (effectively aborting any pregnancies that may have occurred.)

Hell you think God cares about abortion when he has killed all his children himself?


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 10:14:26 AM
The Bible also supports certain abortions and classifies them as minor crimes and not much more.


"If men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall surely be fined as the womanís husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide."  Exodus 21:22-25


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: _bruce_ on January 17, 2013, 10:30:22 AM
TA - soon to enter congress.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: Master Blaster on January 17, 2013, 10:36:58 AM
This is why I'm so pissed at the Republicans. They care more about gay marriage and abortions then the debt.

16 TRILLION DOLLARS!!!!! 16 TRILLION DOLLARS and they still would rather lose single issue voters because they think raped women should be compelled against their will to carry a baby to term.

Obama peeled away tons of single issue voters in a very targeted micro-demographic strategy.

FUCKING FUCKS!!!


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 10:45:22 AM
Overpopulation is a problem, especially when stupid people breed.  (which so happens to be the most prevalent amongst those with lower IQs statistically speaking)  Extra humans only screw things up for those of us who are already here.  There is a tipping point where resources become strained in an increasing population and its best to never approach that direction or even come close to it.

Then, we should thank the Lord that YOU and your wife aren't having any children. Besides, what gives you any priority over future generations. If you're so concerned about the population, lead by example and grab a bottle of arsenic.


Eliminating ignorance depends on a major cultural change and shift that can only be brought on by facts, evidence and the extermination of superstition and superstitious thought through a raising of the collective intelligence amongst a group.

Ignorance has nothing to do with religion, or did you forget that many of the founding fathers of science in the past two or three centuries (particularly in Western society) were also religious folks and people of faith.

And as if that weren't enough, who was the guy wailing about a branch of science (engineering), simply because a number of well-documented Muslim terrorists happened to be engineers? YOU!!!

The day you get clue or go to your grave is the day we get one step closer to eliminating ignorance.




Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 10:49:17 AM
1 - Are you denying God killed children in the womb?  It's there in the Bible.  "Thanks for playing".

Chapter and verse would be nice. Or is this another "pull gibberish out your behind" move of yours?


2 - Who is to say who is an adult?  I would think the already established age of consent that exists for marriage now would suffice.  In your blind hatred of the queers you are just babbling on as you usually do.  No surprise.  Just as interracial marriage was illegal until 1967, there is going to come a day when gay marriage is going to be legal as well.  Hope you are prepared for that.  

And who established it? Under what grounds? And what's stopping that from being altered?

As usual, wallowing in your own buffoonery, you miss the facts and the points by a country mile. BTW, interracial marriage was legal before 1967...long before 1967, in fact. And, among the reasons for it, was the fact that (despite race), the union was still ONE man and ONE woman.

 


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 10:53:49 AM
Then, we should thank the Lord that YOU and your wife aren't having any children. Besides, what gives you any priority over future generations. If you're so concerned about the population, lead by example and grab a bottle of arsenic.

Ignorance has nothing to do with religion, or did you forget that many of the founding fathers of science in the past two or three centuries (particularly in Western society) were also religious folks and people of faith.

And as if that weren't enough, who was the guy wailing about a branch of science (engineering), simply because a number of well-documented Muslim terrorists happened to be engineers? YOU!!!

The day you get clue or go to your grave is the day we get one step closer to eliminating ignorance.



1. I am not advocating genocide.  I am advocating Birth Control, Incentives to not have children such as Tax Breaks and to take away any incentives anyone gets for having children.  Hope this helps.  Thanks for suggesting that I die.  Very Jesus of you to do so.  :D

2. Nonsense.  And there is nothing wrong with Engineers.  I find it rather interesting how some of them compartmentalize is all.  Yes, Muslims are stupid, especially when you have a choice to not be one.  Same with Christians or any other religion. 


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 10:55:11 AM
Chapter and verse would be nice. Or is this another "pull gibberish out your behind" move of yours?

And who established it? Under what grounds? And what's stopping that from being altered?

As usual, wallowing in your own buffoonery, you miss the facts and the points by a country mile. BTW, interracial marriage was legal before 1967...long before 1967, in fact. And, among the reasons for it, was the fact that (despite race), the union was still ONE man and ONE woman.

 
I already gave you chapters and verse, MCChristian-because you only like to "have it your way".


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 10:55:53 AM
The Bible also supports certain abortions and classifies them as minor crimes and not much more.


"If men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall surely be fined as the womanís husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide."  Exodus 21:22-25

Are you really this dumb, or is this a special performance, just for us? Even the word in this translation of Scripture says MISCARRAIGE, genius.

An abortion is a INTENTIONAL killing of an unborn child by one of the parents (usually the mother). Nothing in this passage states that the woman wanted her unborn baby dead.

Ergo, it's not an abortion.

Furthermore, nothing in these verses suggests that the crime is minor. If anything, it's a major crime, up to CAPITAL PUNISHMENT (notice how Adonis left off verses 23-25, "eye for eye, tooth for tooth, life for life"). At the very least, it's going to cost the offender a lot of dough, for which he may be put into bondage to repay (perhaps for LIFE), if he doesn't have the cash or cattle on hand.



Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:01:45 AM
Are you really this dumb, or is this a special performance, just for us? Even the word in this translation of Scripture says MISCARRAIGE, genius.

An abortion is a INTENTIONAL killing of an unborn child by one of the parents (usually the mother). Nothing in this passage states that the woman wanted her unborn baby dead.

Ergo, it's not an abortion.

Furthermore, nothing in these verses suggests that the crime is minor. If anything, it's a major crime, up to CAPITAL PUNISHMENT (notice how Adonis left off verses 23-25, "eye for eye, tooth for tooth, life for life"). At the very least, it's going to cost the offender a lot of dough, for which he may be put into bondage to repay (perhaps for LIFE), if he doesn't have the cash or cattle on hand.


Oh so a man punching your wife in the gut, with the intention of causing the baby to die is quite all right in God`s loving eye.  Got ya.  ;)  


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans.
Post by: Roger Bacon on January 17, 2013, 11:03:08 AM
???

I don`t consider myself either.

I am against gun control legislation but fully support abortion rights. I am for more freedom and less ineffective government regulation.

x2


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:05:11 AM
Are you really this dumb, or is this a special performance, just for us? Even the word in this translation of Scripture says MISCARRAIGE, genius.

An abortion is a INTENTIONAL killing of an unborn child by one of the parents (usually the mother). Nothing in this passage states that the woman wanted her unborn baby dead.

Ergo, it's not an abortion.

Furthermore, nothing in these verses suggests that the crime is minor. If anything, it's a major crime, up to CAPITAL PUNISHMENT (notice how Adonis left off verses 23-25, "eye for eye, tooth for tooth, life for life"). At the very least, it's going to cost the offender a lot of dough, for which he may be put into bondage to repay (perhaps for LIFE), if he doesn't have the cash or cattle on hand.



"If men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall surely be fined as the womanís husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide. 23 But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise." Ex. 21:22-25


If a someone punches your wife and the fetus dies, the only punishment is a fine according to the bible.  Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 11:05:56 AM
1. I am not advocating genocide.  I am advocating Birth Control, Incentives to not have children such as Tax Breaks and to take away any incentives anyone gets for having children.  Hope this helps.  Thanks for suggesting that I die.  Very Jesus of you to do so.  :D

What you are doing is talking out the side of your face. You can't condone or support polygamy, while advocating birth control or other incentives, as you call them. The reason is simple: The PRIMARY PURPOSE of polygamy is to promote LOTS and LOTS of children. It's usually done, because the first wives get older and can't have as many kids. So, you get new, more fertile brides.


2. Nonsense.  And there is nothing wrong with Engineers.  I find it rather interesting how some of them compartmentalize is all.  Yes, Muslims are stupid, especially when you have a choice to not be one.  Same with Christians or any other religion.  

One quick search of the old Getbig files will dredge up your anti-engineering rants for all to see.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:10:42 AM
What you are doing is talking out the side of your face. You can't condone or support polygamy, while advocating birth control or other incentives, as you call them. The reason is simple: The PRIMARY PURPOSE of polygamy is to promote LOTS and LOTS of children. It's usually done, because the first wives gets older and can't have as many kids. So, you get new, more fertile brides.

One quick search of the old Getbig files will dredge up your anti-engineering rants for all to see.
Polygamy can be used to solely have sex with a nice harem of different women.  Every copulation does not have to result in a child.  One can be a Polygamist and have zero interest in having children.  You might find this hard to believe, but some people actually like women and would like to have sex with many of them, some at the same time and such reminiscent of a Roman orgy.  Furthermore you are telling on yourself here in that you only have sex to have a child (or you are really in fact, a homosexual).  What a horrible sex life you must have.  :-X


 ::)  Yes I am anti-Engineering.  ::)   You are a grade A moron getting taken to the woodshed.  ;)


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 11:12:08 AM
"If men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall surely be fined as the womanís husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide. 23 But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise." Ex. 21:22-25


If a someone punches your wife and the fetus dies, the only punishment is a fine according to the bible.  Hope this helps.

A negligent act, resulting in the death of an unborn child, is NOT a deliberate killing of that child, at the behest of the parents.

And this is hardly a "fine" (as in a traffic ticket, today). This is a major financial blow, perhaps the equivalent of a six or seven-figure financial settlement today.

Plus, the verses states, "if any mischief follow", meaning further complications due to that miscarriage DO NOT have to be immediate. If it's determined that such "mischief" is due to that miscarriage, the offender pays a heavier toll (up to HIS LIFE).

Said another way, the "fine" is a minimum punishment. The max punishment is that "fine" and DEATH!!!

Hope that helps.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: jakew300 on January 17, 2013, 11:13:23 AM
"If men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall surely be fined as the womanís husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide. 23 But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise." Ex. 21:22-25


If a someone punches your wife and the fetus dies, the only punishment is a fine according to the bible.  Hope this helps.
Nothing would happen to a man that did that in the time we live in.  He would get assault chargers for hitting the lady.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:14:06 AM
A negligent act, resulting in the death of an unborn child, is NOT a deliberate killing of that child, at the behest of the parents.

And this is hardly a "fine" (as in a traffic ticket, today). This is a major financial blow, perhaps the equivalent of a six or seven-figure financial settlement today.

Plus, the verses states, "if any mischief follow", meaning further complications due to that miscarriage DO NOT have to be immediate. If it's determined that such "mischief" is due to that miscarriage, the offender pays a heavier toll (up to HIS LIFE).

Said another way, the "fine" is a minimum punishment. The max punishment is that "fine" and DEATH!!!

Hope that helps.
Where does it say "A negligent act"?  ???   Where is your proof that the fines were "equivalent of a six or seven-figure financial settlement today"?  ???  Where is your evidence for anything?  :D


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans.
Post by: Option D on January 17, 2013, 11:14:10 AM
Why aren`t there more blacks be like you Option D?  Why do you think this is?  I have a few theories of my own such as the social pressures when it comes to going against "The Black Community" that have been established by blacks writ large and their lack of acceptance to anyone who "betrays" their culture.  

Sounds cruel. But i think that the "old Guard" needs to be removed. Ass Backwards thinking


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 11:15:46 AM
Oh so a man punching your wife in the gut, with the intention of causing the baby to die is quite all right in God`s loving eye.  Got ya.  ;)  

You really are this dumb! When your attempt to paint those verses as condoning abortion got shot to pieces, you resort to this foolishness.

Considering that men got beaten by the elders of Israel, simply for defaming the name of a woman (much less trying to kill her baby and, perhaps, kill her as well), your statement just reflects utter stupidity on this subject, to say the least.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans.
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:15:58 AM
Sounds cruel. But i think that the "old Guard" needs to be removed. Ass Backwards thinking
Young Black people are still playing out their stereotypes and following Black Culture memes that embrace ignorance writ large.  I don`t see it as an "old guard" problem, but one rooted deep in culture and to some extent genetics.  :-X


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:16:52 AM
You really are this dumb! When your attempt to paint those verses as condoning abortion got shot to pieces, you resort to this foolishness.

Considering that men got beaten by the elders of Israel, simply for defaming the name of a woman (much less trying to kill her baby and, perhaps, kill her as well), your statement just reflects utter stupidity on this subject, to say the least.

Sounds like a religious and just paradise to live in.   :D


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:18:48 AM
You really are this dumb! When your attempt to paint those verses as condoning abortion got shot to pieces, you resort to this foolishness.

Considering that men got beaten by the elders of Israel, simply for defaming the name of a woman (much less trying to kill her baby and, perhaps, kill her as well), your statement just reflects utter stupidity on this subject, to say the least.
Ahmed pays Metrius 2 mules to punch his pregnant wife in the stomach, hoping to kill the baby.  God said this is ok and that the punishment is a small fine.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 11:25:02 AM
Polygamy can be used to solely have sex with a nice harem of different women.  Every copulation does not have to result in a child.  One can be a Polygamist and have zero interest in having children.  You might find this hard to believe, but some people actually like women and would like to have sex with many of them, some at the same time and such reminiscent of a Roman orgy.  Furthermore you are telling on yourself here in that you only have sex to have a child (or you are really in fact, a homosexual).  What a horrible sex life you must have.  :-X


 ::)  Yes I am anti-Engineering.  ::)   You are a grade A moron getting taken to the woodshed.  ;)

Wrong and woefully stupid, as usual, Adonis.

Apparently, the word, PRIMARY, doesn't register in that skull of yours. Nor does the concept of men liking sex AND wanting to have multiple children.

People who want to have sex with multiple women don't have to get married to do such. And, if a man wants to have such on call, he needn't wed them to do. I believe such women are known as call girls, escorts, or (as common folk call them) "hoes".

The whole marrying them routine implies wanting the kids to have a legitimate link to their father. So, if you claim to support polygamy, that is DE FACTO support of lots of babies, thus resulting in that pesky over population you dread so much.



Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:25:58 AM
Wrong and woefully stupid, as usual, Adonis.

Apparently, the word, [size=17]PRIMARY[/size] doesn't register in that skull of yours. Nor does the concept of men liking sex AND wanting to have multiple children.

People who want to have sex with multiple women don't have to get married to do such. And, if a man wants to have such on call, he needn't wed them to do. I believe such women are known as call girls, escorts, or (as common folk call them) "hoes".

The whole marrying them routine implies wanting the kids to have a legitimate link to their father. So, if you claim to support polygamy, that is DE FACTO support of lots of babies, thus resulting in that pesky over population you dread so much.


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 [size=17]PRIMARY[/size]


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:27:51 AM
Wrong and woefully stupid, as usual, Adonis.

Apparently, the word, [size=17]PRIMARY[/size] doesn't register in that skull of yours. Nor does the concept of men liking sex AND wanting to have multiple children.

People who want to have sex with multiple women don't have to get married to do such. And, if a man wants to have such on call, he needn't wed them to do. I believe such women are known as call girls, escorts, or (as common folk call them) "hoes".

The whole marrying them routine implies wanting the kids to have a legitimate link to their father. So, if you claim to support polygamy, that is DE FACTO support of lots of babies, thus resulting in that pesky over population you dread so much.


Marriage has zero to do with kids for some people.  I hope this helps.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 11:33:20 AM
Where does it say "A negligent act"?  ???   Where is your proof that the fines were "equivalent of a six or seven-figure financial settlement today"?  ???  Where is your evidence for anything?  :D

Try reading and getting a clue. The passage describes two men fighting and a pregnant woman being struck, resulting in the loss of her child. That shows that the woman's injury WAS NOT DELIBERATE!!

When such a matter went before the elders of Israel, it was SERIOUS BUSINESS, not something to be taken lightly.

And, if it involved the death of a unborn child, that could have been the only heir to that woman and her husband.

As usual, you make the boneheaded attempt to trivialize a serious matter, all to prop up a rather block-headed point of yours, which just got sliced to ribbons.

Punishment for crimes of such nature often involved major dowry payments or at least 7 years servitude to compensate for the family's loss. If an average year's salary is $50,000, 7 years' servitude would be the equivalent of over $350,000.

Does that help, or are we to be treated to more buffoonery from your lips?


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:35:05 AM
Try reading and getting a clue. The passage describes two men fighting and a pregnant woman being struck, resulting in the loss of her child. That shows that the woman's injury WAS NOT DELIBERATE!!

When such a matter went before the elders of Israel, it was SERIOUS BUSINESS, not something to be taken lightly.

And, if it involved the death of a unborn child, that could have been the only heir to that woman and her husband.

As usual, you make the boneheaded attempt to trivialize a serious matter, all to prop up a rather block-headed point of yours, which just got sliced to ribbons.

Punishment for crimes of such nature often involved major dowry payments or at least 7 years servitude to compensate for the family's loss. If an average year's salary is $50,000, 7 years' servitude would be the equivalent of over $350,000.

Does that help, or are we to be treated to more buffoonery from your lips?
How would two men fighting spill over onto beating a woman if beating that woman was not intentional?  ???


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:37:17 AM
Try reading and getting a clue. The passage describes two men fighting and a pregnant woman being struck, resulting in the loss of her child. That shows that the woman's injury WAS NOT DELIBERATE!!

When such a matter went before the elders of Israel, it was SERIOUS BUSINESS, not something to be taken lightly.

And, if it involved the death of a unborn child, that could have been the only heir to that woman and her husband.

As usual, you make the boneheaded attempt to trivialize a serious matter, all to prop up a rather block-headed point of yours, which just got sliced to ribbons.

Punishment for crimes of such nature often involved major dowry payments or at least 7 years servitude to compensate for the family's loss. If an average year's salary is $50,000, 7 years' servitude would be the equivalent of over $350,000.

Does that help, or are we to be treated to more buffoonery from your lips?

Still waiting on your evidence for any of the above.  :D  Keep waving the banner of stupidity and hold it high.  You earned it.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 11:38:11 AM
Marriage has zero to do with kids for some people.  I hope this helps.

What part of "PRIMARY" don't you understand?

Look up any culture that has practiced (or currently practices) polygamy long-term, and I GUARANTEE YOU that you will find those families and cultures have lots of children, as a result.

In our society, we marvel when someone has a large number of children (i.e. 6 or more) from just one wife.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:39:37 AM
What part of "PRIMARY" don't you understand?

Look up any culture that has practiced (or currently practices) polygamy long-term, and I GUARANTEE YOU that you will find those families and cultures have lots of children, as a result.

In our society, we marvel when someone has a large number of children (i.e. 6 or more) from just one wife.
What if I want 8 wives and zero children.  ???


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 17, 2013, 11:41:37 AM
Are you really this dumb, or is this a special performance, just for us? Even the word in this translation of Scripture says MISCARRAIGE, genius.

An abortion is a INTENTIONAL killing of an unborn child by one of the parents (usually the mother). Nothing in this passage states that the woman wanted her unborn baby dead.

Ergo, it's not an abortion.

Furthermore, nothing in these verses suggests that the crime is minor. If anything, it's a major crime, up to CAPITAL PUNISHMENT (notice how Adonis left off verses 23-25, "eye for eye, tooth for tooth, life for life"). At the very least, it's going to cost the offender a lot of dough, for which he may be put into bondage to repay (perhaps for LIFE), if he doesn't have the cash or cattle on hand.



Using your  magical powers to inflict an entire region of women to miscarriage or have their wombs reject their fruit seems pretty intentional to me.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:42:16 AM
Using your  magical powers to inflict an entire region of women to miscarriage or have their wombs reject their fruit seems pretty intentional to me.
Exactly.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 11:43:37 AM
Still waiting on your evidence for any of the above.  :D  Keep waving the banner of stupidity and hold it high.  You earned it.

Look who's talking. You cited a passage that has NOTHING to do with abortion as proof of God condoning abortion.

You claim you're against overpopulation; yet, in the same breath you support the very institution that PROMOTES that same overpopulation.

I already gave you the evidence, Einstein. Look it up. People were sold into servitude when they couldn't pay financial penalties. In Israel, such lasted at least 7 years.

Therefore, O ye of little sense and mathematical ability, all it would take was the equivalent of $14,300 per year (poverty, even by our standards today), for someone to pay a six-figure "fine", for his negligent act, resulting in the death of an unborn child.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: prizm on January 17, 2013, 11:44:28 AM
Gun law intrusion =/= my liberty.

Gun law intrusion = constitution/everyones liberty. On either side of the fence you should be in favor of upholding the constitution as an American.



Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: Roger Bacon on January 17, 2013, 11:45:33 AM
I think abortion is horrible.  I think a woman would generally have to be a complete irresponsible piece of shit to put herself in that position.


I realize though, that that is a personal opinion and I would be wrong to force it onto others.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 11:48:03 AM
Using your  magical powers to inflict an entire region of women to miscarriage or have their wombs reject their fruit seems pretty intentional to me.

Apparently, you don't grasp the concept of women being barren. It means they can't conceive. Egro, there are no abortions. You have to actually get PREGNANT, before an abortion or miscarriage can take place.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:49:40 AM
Look who's talking. You cited a passage that has NOTHING to do with abortion as proof of God condoning abortion.

You claim you're against overpopulation; yet, in the same breath you support the very institution that PROMOTES that same overpopulation.

I already gave you the evidence, Einstein. Look it up. People were sold into servitude when they couldn't pay fines. In Israel, such lasted at least 7 years.

Therefore, O ye of little sense and mathematical ability, all it would take was the equivalent of $14,300 per year (poverty, even by our standards today), for someone to pay a six-figure "fine", for his negligent act, resulting in the death of an unborn child.
1. Wrong.  Your obnoxious doctrine has no qualms about abortion, slavery or the systematic killing of children.

2. Marriage does not automatically mean children.  Afterall, your race breeds mostly without marriage and breed it does.  The majority of your race births without being married so using marriage as an institution for child bearing is nothing but a canard.

3. You have provided zero evidence.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:51:25 AM
I think abortion is horrible.  I think a woman would generally have to be a complete irresponsible piece of shit to put herself in that position.


I realize though, that that is a personal opinion and I would be wrong to force it onto others.
Jahmal rapes Elizabeth on her way home from Tennis practice.  We blame Elizabeth for wearing a Tennis Skirt and crossing paths with Jahmal and therefore must carry the disgusting creature that will result to term?   ???  Don`t be foolish.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: Roger Bacon on January 17, 2013, 11:52:34 AM
I think abortion is horrible.  I think a woman would generally have to be a complete irresponsible piece of shit to put herself in that position.


I realize though, that is a personal opinion and I would be wrong to force it onto others.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: SilverSpoon on January 17, 2013, 11:53:21 AM
I just want the government off of my back and out of my pocket.

I am a fiscal conservative.

An old time GOP member.

Not a neo-con moron who misses the forest for the trees and focuses on social issues that a) are never going to be fixed, or b) will have a positive effect if we stop wasting resources/funds.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:53:36 AM

Still an ignorant proclamation, no matter how bold it gets.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 11:53:56 AM
What if I want 8 wives and zero children.  ???

For every one of you, there are probably 10 (or more) who want lots of kids. Hence, the word, PRIMARY!!!

Let me put this in language you can understand: Why do opponents of school vouchers sue to strike such laws down on 1st amendment basis?

Answer: Because, school vouchers can be used at all participating schools, public and PRIVATE. And, 80% of private schools are RELIGIOUS ones.



Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 11:56:22 AM
For every one of you, there are probably 10 (or more) who want lots of kids. Hence, the word, PRIMARY!!!

Let me put this in language you can understand: Why do opponents of school vouchers sue to strike such laws down on 1st amendment basis?

Answer: Because, school vouchers can be used at all participating schools, public and PRIVATE. And, 80% of private schools are RELIGIOUS ones.


No such thing as a Religious Education.  That is an oxymoron.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 17, 2013, 11:59:25 AM
Apparently, you don't grasp the concept of women being barren. It means they can't conceive. Egro, there are no abortions. You have to actually get PREGNANT, before an abortion or miscarriage can take place.

Apparently you don't grasp the concept that God is a killer.  Not only does he deliberately cause miscarriages but he even kills the child after birth.

    And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. -- Numbers 31:15-17
    (Some of the non-virgin women must have been pregnant. They would have been killed along with their unborn fetuses.)

    Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. -- Hosea 9:14

    Yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb. -- Hosea 9:16

Again, anyone that murders all their children doesn't have dick to say about what someone else does with theirs.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 17, 2013, 12:02:28 PM
1. Wrong.  Your obnoxious doctrine has no qualms about abortion, slavery or the systematic killing of children.

2. Marriage does not automatically mean children.  Afterall, your race breeds mostly without marriage and breed it does.  The majority of your race births without being married so using marriage as an institution for child bearing is nothing but a canard.


3. You have provided zero evidence.

If that were the case, the Bible would outlaw divorce if the couple is still able to produce.  Anyone unable to produce - the elderly or sterile - would have their marriages instantly dissolved and stricken from society record.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 12:03:21 PM
If that were the case, the Bible would outlaw divorce if the couple is still able to produce.  Anyone unable to produce - the elderly or sterile - would have their marriages instantly dissolved and stricken from society record.
I guess old people, past the child bearing age, can`t get married.  :-\


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 12:10:13 PM
1. Wrong.  Your obnoxious doctrine has no qualms about abortion, slavery or the systematic killing of children.

Once again, your attempt to paint that passage in Exodus as being about abortion got crushed. So, you keep flapping in the wind with utter silly statements.

And, you have no qualms about killing children. Like real estate, it's all about location.


2. Marriage does not automatically mean children.  Afterall, your race breeds mostly without marriage and breed it does.  The majority of your race births without being married so using marriage as an institution for child bearing is nothing but a canard.

Never claimed it did, Einstein. It seems that word, "PRIMARY" just sticks in your craw. If my race has any issue, it's listening to the utterly stupid philosophies of people like you. It's the reason why poverty is rampant among my race: The destruction of the nuclear family.

Besides, why are you complaining? My race is the major reason your precious Obama is president, in the first place.


3. You have provided zero evidence.

Wrong again. Your silly attempt to dismiss the punishment of killing an unborn child as a mere almost-inconsequential fine has been shredded.

Ancient people got sold into servitude, to pay off debts. The same book of Exodus, which you so foolishly misused, states as such. Servitude lasted 7 years. A six-figure judgment is at least $100,000.

That means the servant would only have to earn about $14,300 a year to pay back such a judgment. With an average salary of $50,000 these days, such a judgment would be closer to $350,000 or so.



Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 12:12:43 PM
Jahmal rapes Elizabeth on her way home from Tennis practice.  We blame Elizabeth for wearing a Tennis Skirt and crossing paths with Jahmal and therefore must carry the disgusting creature that will result to term?   ???  Don`t be foolish.

How about Elizabeth let a married man and woman adopt her child, while Jahmal gets strapped to old Sparky for his crime?

Oh, that's right! Thanks to our liberal buddies, we can't execute rapists anymore as it's "cruel and unusual punishment".  ::)


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 12:16:14 PM
No such thing as a Religious Education.  That is an oxymoron.

Wrong again, Adonis. 80% of private schools are religious and, on average, they fare far better than their public school counterparts.

And, lest you forget, as off the track as they are now, many Ivy League schools started as religious institutions.




Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 12:17:20 PM
Once again, your attempt to paint that passage in Exodus as being about abortion got crushed. So, you keep flapping in the wind with utter silly statements.

And, you have no qualms about killing children. Like real estate, it's all about location.

Never claimed it did, Einstein. It seems that word, "PRIMARY" just sticks in your craw. If my race has any issue, it's listening to the utterly stupid philosophies of people like you. It's the reason why poverty is rampant among my race: The destruction of the nuclear family.

Besides, why are you complaining? My race is the major reason your precious Obama is president, in the first place.


Wrong again. Your silly attempt to dismiss the punishment of killing an unborn child as a mere almost-inconsequential fine has been shredded.

Ancient people got sold into servitude, to pay off debts. The same book of Exodus, which you so foolishly misused, states as such. Servitude lasted 7 years. A six-figure judgment is at least $100,000.

That means the servant would only have to earn about $14,300 a year to pay back such a judgment. With an average salary of $50,000 these days, such a judgment would be closer to $350,000 or so.


1. A fetus is not a child.  

2. You still have produced no Primary evidence.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2013, 12:19:37 PM
How about Elizabeth let a married man and woman adopt her child, while Jahmal gets strapped to old Sparky for his crime?

Oh, that's right! Thanks to our liberal buddies, we can't execute rapists anymore as it's "cruel and unusual punishment".  ::)

Yes because Elizabeth wants to ravage her body and go through the emotional pain of having a Jigaboo baby come out of her vagina to remind her of the horrific act perpetrated upon her.  The jigaboo baby then has half the rapist genetics and is released into the world to become someone elses problem.  Besides, who is supposed to pay for her pregnancy and all? 



Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: tbombz on January 17, 2013, 12:20:46 PM
theft and coercion are never justified.

government based upon taxes and laws is fascist and tyrannical.

volunteerism and freedom are the only noble pathway to collectivism.

ends do not justify means.


as for all the other bullshit ....    "i am only smarter than others in of that i know that i know nothing"..  learn it, live it, love it.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 17, 2013, 12:23:50 PM
Yes because Elizabeth wants to ravage her body and go through the emotional pain of having a Jigaboo baby come out of her vagina to remind her of the horrific act perpetrated upon her.  The jigaboo baby then has half the rapist genetics and is released into the world to become someone elses problem.  Besides, who is supposed to pay for her pregnancy and all? 



Brutal, but +1


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: tu_holmes on January 17, 2013, 12:26:56 PM
Wrong again, Adonis. 80% of private schools are religious and, on average, they fare far better than their public school counterparts.

And, lest you forget, as off the track as they are now, many Ivy League schools started as religious institutions.




They are usually better with things like Language and Math... but on anything science related, they generally fall behind. It's an unfortunate fact that Science and Religion often butt heads with each other.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 12:30:02 PM
Apparently you don't grasp the concept that God is a killer.  Not only does he deliberately cause miscarriages but he even kills the child after birth.

    And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. -- Numbers 31:15-17
    (Some of the non-virgin women must have been pregnant. They would have been killed along with their unborn fetuses.)

    Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. -- Hosea 9:14

    Yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb. -- Hosea 9:16

Again, anyone that murders all their children doesn't have dick to say about what someone else does with theirs.

Sure, they do. A Supreme God can do what He wants with his Creation, especially when (contrary to your rather feeble editing attempts) the subjects at hand were punished for specific crimes.

Why where those women killed again in Numbers? OH!! Those were the women of Israel's enenies, the Moabites and Midianites, who were engaged in a plot to WEAKEN Israel's defenses to leave them vulnerable to be destroyed by Moabite forces.



Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: Shockwave on January 17, 2013, 12:31:59 PM
This thread is making my head hurt.

Mcway, people who want to marry more than one person don't automatically want to have shit tons of kids, I have no idea how you made that leap of logic


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: che on January 17, 2013, 12:33:33 PM
GAY SEX  , I'm against it .


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 17, 2013, 12:50:41 PM
Sure, they do. A Supreme God can do what He wants with his Creation, especially when (contrary to your rather feeble editing attempts) the subjects at hand were punished for specific crimes.

Why where those women killed again in Numbers? OH!! Those were the women of Israel's enenies, the Moabites and Midianites, who were engaged in a plot to WEAKEN Israel's defenses to leave them vulnerable to be destroyed by Moabite forces.



1 - What editing attempts???

2 - Then a woman can do what she wants with her creation as well.

3 - Were those enemies also God's children as well?

Nice try.  But God is nothing but Pro Choice.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 08:20:32 PM
This thread is making my head hurt.

Mcway, people who want to marry more than one person don't automatically want to have shit tons of kids, I have no idea how you made that leap of logic

Simple! Look at the cultures over millenia, who have engaged in polygamy, with scores of kids as a result.

That includes the two groups, who as of late, are known famously/infamously for such: Muslims and a offshoot sect of the Mormon faith.



Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: Shockwave on January 17, 2013, 08:23:47 PM
Simple! Look at the cultures over millenia, who have engaged in polygamy, with scores of kids as a result.

That includes the two groups, who as of late, are known famously/infamously for such: Muslims and a offshoot sect of the Mormon faith.


Correlation =/= causation.

Some people simply want to marry multiple women because they want to fuck multiple women. Believe it or not man, some people enjoy sex and don't want kids.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 08:30:01 PM
1 - What editing attempts???

That would be intentionally leaving out the portions of the passage that fully explains the scenario, in which such actions occur. For instance, Hosea 9:11 (which you left off, before citing verses 14 and 16) "Ephraim's glory will fly away like a bird--no birth, no pregnancy, no conception."

Again, it's awfully hard to have abortions, if there's NO PREGNANCY in the first place.


2 - Then a woman can do what she wants with her creation as well.

That's funny! How is it her creation, when she can't even control the gender of the baby?


3 - Were those enemies also God's children as well?

His creation? Yes! His children? That depends on whether they acknowledge Him as Lord or not.


Nice try.  But God is nothing but Pro Choice.

Not even close. But, thanks for playing.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 08:32:51 PM
Correlation =/= causation.

Some people simply want to marry multiple women because they want to fuck multiple women. Believe it or not man, some people enjoy sex and don't want kids.

Didn't someone just mention that marriage was not necessary for having sex?

And where do you see rampant polygamy, absent multiple children?


Again, you're confusing the words, PRIMARY, with SOLE. The lion's share of polygamist DO NOT marry multiple women, just to bone them. The marriage is for one primary purpose: LEGITIMATE CHILDREN, usually for purposes of inheritance and association with the family.

Out-of-wedlock kids are known as bastards.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2013, 10:14:24 PM
Yes because Elizabeth wants to ravage her body and go through the emotional pain of having a Jigaboo baby come out of her vagina to remind her of the horrific act perpetrated upon her.  The jigaboo baby then has half the rapist genetics and is released into the world to become someone elses problem.  Besides, who is supposed to pay for her pregnancy and all? 



Don't tell me you're one of those uber-paranoid white Getbiggers, who dread their precious women will be penetrated by force or (GASP!!!) VOLUNTARILY by those pesky Negro guys.

Say it ain't so, Adonis.

My statement made no regards to the race of either person, simply to strap the rapist to the chair and fry him, regardless of his color.

Rape isn't a genetic trait, BTW. Just when it looks as if you can post anything more utterly foolish, you somehow manage to top yourself with this tripe.



Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 17, 2013, 11:50:06 PM
GAY SEX  , I'm against it .

The homosexual movement is a depopulation movement in disguise. However almost all of them aren't in on it. When the Hierarchy gets Earths numbers to a managing amount, these people will be forced back into the closet.


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 18, 2013, 01:06:40 AM

Furthermore, nothing in these verses suggests that the crime is minor. If anything, it's a major crime, up to CAPITAL PUNISHMENT (notice how Adonis left off verses 23-25, "eye for eye, tooth for tooth, life for life"). At the very least, it's going to cost the offender a lot of dough, for which he may be put into bondage to repay (perhaps for LIFE), if he doesn't have the cash or cattle on hand.


Definitely sounds like relevant advice for citizens of a first-world, industrialized nation in the 21st century 2,000+ years removed from the comments' original context.  ::)


Title: Re: Listen up Republicans. (and Democrats)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 18, 2013, 08:57:07 AM
That would be intentionally leaving out the portions of the passage that fully explains the scenario, in which such actions occur. For instance, Hosea 9:11 (which you left off, before citing verses 14 and 16) "Ephraim's glory will fly away like a bird--no birth, no pregnancy, no conception."

Again, it's awfully hard to have abortions, if there's NO PREGNANCY in the first place.

That's funny! How is it her creation, when she can't even control the gender of the baby?

His creation? Yes! His children? That depends on whether they acknowledge Him as Lord or not.

Not even close. But, thanks for playing.

Desperation is quite amusing to watch.  You didn't quite grasp the lifeline there though.

1 - I edited nothing, left nothing out.  I simply cut and pasted just as it was on the site I got it from.

2 - Yes, her creation.  Unless you trying to tell me that God is running around creating pregnant women on his own?

3 - If those are not acknowledging them, then they are not his children?  Is that what you claim?  Then whose children are they?  If god didn't create them, who did?  Really now.. here we go... typical religious spin trying to argue semantics and make a really distinct separation (that clearly does not exist) about "children" and "creation".  If God created them, then they are his children.  If they are not his children, then who created them?  Very simple.  Now cue in the standard gnashing of teeth about whhhahhhh... whaaaahhhh... wahhhhaahhh... they have to do this... or whahhhhhhhh... they have to believe that......   

4 - Yep, God is nothing but Pro Choice.  Not to mention Pro-Genocide, Pro-Child Abuse, and not quite unlike a childish poltergeist having a little tantrun at times according to the Bible.

THANKS FOR PLAYING