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Title: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 22, 2013, 02:45:59 PM
I'm blaming EVERYONE who voted for him. I'm also blaming the people who voted for him on the destruction of this country and not being educated on what was going to eventually happen. Like I said a million times, you have no idea of the consequences of your actions. You do now. Live with it.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: tbombz on January 22, 2013, 02:47:56 PM
we know now the consequences of our actions?   ???

a pragmatic, reasonable, likeable guy in the white house?



Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2013, 02:48:39 PM
I'm blaming EVERYONE who voted for him. I'm also blaming the people who voted for him on the destruction of this country and not being educated on what was going to eventually happen. Like I said a million times, you have no idea of the consequences of your actions. You do now. Live with it.

home sales have been the highest now than theyve been in 5 years (ie people getting broke as shit)


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 22, 2013, 02:51:56 PM
we know now the consequences of our actions?   ???

a pragmatic, reasonable, likeable guy in the white house?



You haven't a clue. You're still having everything handed to you.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: _bruce_ on January 22, 2013, 02:58:40 PM
His administration's appeasement policy towards Islamism in America and the rest of the world has been a crime against humanity.
Now with Syria and Mali unfolding, fasten your sit belts because the mother of all conflicts is about to unfold.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: tbombz on January 22, 2013, 03:02:15 PM
You haven't a clue. You're still having everything handed to you.
you never fail to refuse posting anything of actual substance. never once have you ever sighted any economic statistics.  you just go on and on about how obama is a failure and everyone who voted for him fucked up.  come on dude, wheres the info to back up your claims?  the rest of us are looking at a guy who came into office when 3/4 million jjobs were being lost every month, and who turned that around so now we have a few years of continuous job growth and a housing market that is on the upswing in many places. 


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: arce1988 on January 22, 2013, 03:09:11 PM
  The USA is fucked.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: 4thAD on January 22, 2013, 03:19:30 PM
you never fail to refuse posting anything of actual substance. never once have you ever sighted any economic statistics.  you just go on and on about how obama is a failure and everyone who voted for him fucked up.  come on dude, wheres the info to back up your claims?  the rest of us are looking at a guy who came into office when 3/4 million jjobs were being lost every month, and who turned that around so now we have a few years of continuous job growth and a housing market that is on the upswing in many places.  

Here is something of substance that Obama has recently HR 347! Making free speech a felony..

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=nKjy0PDlKV4


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Nomad on January 22, 2013, 03:22:38 PM
you never fail to refuse posting anything of actual substance. never once have you ever sighted any economic statistics.  you just go on and on about how obama is a failure and everyone who voted for him fucked up.  come on dude, wheres the info to back up your claims?  the rest of us are looking at a guy who came into office when 3/4 million jjobs were being lost every month, and who turned that around so now we have a few years of continuous job growth and a housing market that is on the upswing in many places. 

Obamas 800 billion bailout never got the unemployment under 8%. 


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: tbombz on January 22, 2013, 03:23:20 PM
Here is something of substance that Obama has recently HR 347! Making free speech a felony..

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=nKjy0PDlKV4
allowing the secret service to stop protests that are in close vicinity to the president..    yeah, banning free speech.. lol


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: arce1988 on January 22, 2013, 03:24:29 PM
  He is about to make the USA Debt Over 21 Trillion


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: tbombz on January 22, 2013, 03:25:32 PM
Obamas 800 billion bailout never got the unemployment under 8%. 
and your point is ?  he and his staff made some overly optimistic claims about how well the economy could recover, and they ended up underestimating just how bad the recession actually was?  so ?     he took office when 750,000 jobs were lost every month. now we have a gain of a few hundred thousand every month. and its been that way for years now.  housing prices starting to climb back up.    


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: tbombz on January 22, 2013, 03:27:55 PM
 He is about to make the USA Debt Over 21 Trillion
he is about to do that ? um, no. the spending that is in place that is responsible for the defecit has been in place since long before he came into office. and the tax cuts that cause revenue as well. neither are his fault.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: arce1988 on January 22, 2013, 03:29:01 PM
  Almost 10 Trillion on his watch


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: 4thAD on January 22, 2013, 03:30:49 PM
and your point is ?  he and his staff made some overly optimistic claims about how well the economy could recover, and they ended up underestimating just how bad the recession actually was?  so ?     he took office when 750,000 jobs were lost every month. now we have a gain of a few hundred thousand every month. and its been that way for years now.  housing prices starting to climb back up.    

Is Obama massaging you anally?


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: arce1988 on January 22, 2013, 03:30:54 PM
  My point, is that he is just like the rest. You say do NOT blame him. Then do NOT praise him either.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: tbombz on January 22, 2013, 03:38:51 PM
 My point, is that he is just like the rest. You say do NOT blame him. Then do NOT praise him either.
he is a reasonable guy. and he has done wonders for diplomatic relations abroad. in 2007 the world hated america. the day he took office we became the light of the world yet again. he got the nobel peace prize just for being elected, and deservingly so, cuz his election sparked hope and reignited the worlds belief in the ability of people to control government.. etc etc..

he had a mandate to put in universal healthcare... instead he went with the republican plan..   he had a mandate to raise the shit out of the taxes on the wealthy.. instead he bargained only for modest increases... the left was absolutely against going into libya, while the right was begging him to.. and he went in.. 

etc etc

im an anarchist. i dont support taxes. or spending. or government. i dont agree with obama on tons of stuff.   but he is a moderate, pragmatist, reasonable, etc


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: 4thAD on January 22, 2013, 03:39:12 PM
he is about to do that ? um, no. the spending that is in place that is responsible for the defecit has been in place since long before he came into office. and the tax cuts that cause revenue as well. neither are his fault.

So someone standing across from the White House holding a sign when the president is in, is now a felon in your mind and thats ok? Its the chiseling away of our free speech rights that is BULL SHIT.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 22, 2013, 03:40:52 PM
and your point is ?  he and his staff made some overly optimistic claims about how well the economy could recover, and they ended up underestimating just how bad the recession actually was?  so ?     he took office when 750,000 jobs were lost every month. now we have a gain of a few hundred thousand every month. and its been that way for years now.  housing prices starting to climb back up.    

A few hundred thousand every month?? Do you realize that most of jobs are government jobs that we have to pay for? Very little in the private sector, Tbombz. Despite the garbage you've been fed, government cannot grow the economy. Oh, there might be a temporary growth spurt, but in the long run, we're fucked. What part of basic economics are you missing? and forget that economics are just a small part of this delusion. Again, I blame people like you (that actually voted) who gave him free reign to make shit up as he goes along. BTW, I've provided PLENTY of evidence.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 22, 2013, 03:42:05 PM
do you also blame the gop who made pl sway and vote democrat instead?

what kind of losses have you experienced due to obama being in office?

can you name a number in dollars?



Look, I like you, but I'm having a hard time with your posts because you don't even live in this country.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Necrosis on January 22, 2013, 03:45:27 PM
  Almost 10 Trillion on his watch

to be fair the vast majority of it is for bushs wars and tax cuts. Obama has actually not added very much at all, on his own accord.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Nomad on January 22, 2013, 03:47:00 PM
and your point is ?  he and his staff made some overly optimistic claims about how well the economy could recover, and they ended up underestimating just how bad the recession actually was?  so ?     he took office when 750,000 jobs were lost every month. now we have a gain of a few hundred thousand every month. and its been that way for years now.  housing prices starting to climb back up.    

You asked for info to backup claims of failure. There it is. So that is fail #1.

Fail #2 would be overtly optimistic prognosis about how much Obamacare would save the government and the country. By all accounts so far all those claims of savings are turning out to be completely false.

Quote
The numbers aren’t pretty. Despite breathless media reports of additional “savings,” the government’s bean counters actually exposed several flaws in the law that will, in the long term, lead to higher costs and reduced access to insurance coverage.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2012/08/06/the-cbo-just-rendered-its-verdict-on-the-cost-of-obamacare-and-it-isnt-pretty/


The only thing you got going for you now is that there is finally some job growth post election. Too bad its a well known seasonal phenomeno when all the retail stores were gearing up for Christmas spending. Expect unenployment to go back up above 8% in the next few months.



Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 22, 2013, 03:47:31 PM
he is a reasonable guy. and he has done wonders for diplomatic relations abroad. in 2007 the world hated america. the day he took office we became the light of the world yet again. he got the nobel peace prize just for being elected, and deservingly so, cuz his election sparked hope and reignited the worlds belief in the ability of people to control government.. etc etc..

he had a mandate to put in universal healthcare... instead he went with the republican plan..   he had a mandate to raise the shit out of the taxes on the wealthy.. instead he bargained only for modest increases... the left was absolutely against going into libya, while the right was begging him to.. and he went in.. 

etc etc

im an anarchist. i dont support taxes. or spending. or government. i dont agree with obama on tons of stuff.   but he is a moderate, pragmatist, reasonable, etc

Diplomatic relations? He destroyed the relationship with our only friend in the mid east Israel. He turned his back on our closest relationship with an arab country being Egypt letting it get over thrown and put in the hands of radicals. Iran is developing a nuclear bomb.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: tbombz on January 22, 2013, 03:49:38 PM
So someone standing across from the White House holding a sign when the president is in, is now a felon in your mind and thats ok? Its the chiseling away of our free speech rights that is BULL SHIT.
i didnt say i supported the bill, i am just saying i dont support your reaction.. lmao..  what you dont seem to realize is that obama already has the authority to kill you whenever he wants, and he doesnt even need a reason.  so this new little bill is completely meaningless.

 
A few hundred thousand every month?? Do you realize that most of jobs are government jobs that we have to pay for?
im going to stop you right there, since the rest of your post was predicated upon this idea, and its blatantly false.  public sector jobs are going down by a hundred thousand or so every single month.  private sector jobs are increasing by three hundred thousand or so every month.   


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: tbombz on January 22, 2013, 03:51:45 PM
You asked for info to backup claims of failure. There it is. So that is fail #1.

Fail #2 would be overtly optimistic prognosis about how much Obamacare would save the government and the country. By all accounts so far all those claims of savings are turning out to be completely false.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2012/08/06/the-cbo-just-rendered-its-verdict-on-the-cost-of-obamacare-and-it-isnt-pretty/


The only thing you got going for you now is that there is finally some job growth post election. Too bad its a well known seasonal phenomeno when all the retail stores were gearing up for Christmas spending. Expect unenployment to go back up above 8% in the next few months.



stimulus = prevented recession from becoming depression, saved hundreds of thousands of jobs, but didnt meet expectations.

obamacare= goal was to get every american covered, and now that is the law.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 22, 2013, 03:54:10 PM
i didnt say i supported the bill, i am just saying i dont support your reaction.. lmao..  what you dont seem to realize is that obama already has the authority to kill you whenever he wants, and he doesnt even need a reason.  so this new little bill is completely meaningless.

 im going to stop you right there, since the rest of your post was predicated upon this idea, and its blatantly false.  public sector jobs are going down by a hundred thousand or so every single month.  private sector jobs are increasing by three hundred thousand or so every month.   

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/04/Employment-Level-Growth-Under-Obama-Sets-a-Post-World-War-II-Low

I can provide more if you like.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: tbombz on January 22, 2013, 04:01:19 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/04/Employment-Level-Growth-Under-Obama-Sets-a-Post-World-War-II-Low

I can provide more if you like.
your link says that job growth is lower than since before ww2.  we all already know this. it has absolutely nothing to do with your previous assertion that current job growth is fueled by government jobs. in fact its quite the opposite, the country is losing hundreds of thousands of government jobs every month. but growth in private sector jobs is strong enough so that net job numbers are in the positive - by a few hundred thousand per month.



Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: tbombz on January 22, 2013, 04:03:38 PM
(http://www.hamiltonproject.org/images/uploads/thp_image_uploads/charts/0803_govt_ratio_chart1.jpg)


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: tbombz on January 22, 2013, 04:04:26 PM
(http://www.hamiltonproject.org/images/uploads/thp_image_uploads/charts/0803_govt_employment_Chart2.jpg)


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: thelamefalsehood on January 22, 2013, 05:00:53 PM
I really wish we as Americans could institute a "no dummy vote" rule. Meaning, you got no job, you got no vote dummy. You pay no taxes or live completely off the government, you get no vote dummy. You only go to college and regurgitate the moronic ideas that some liberal professor spoon fed you, you get no vote DUMMY!!!


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on January 22, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
I'm blaming EVERYONE who voted for him. I'm also blaming the people who voted for him on the destruction of this country and not being educated on what was going to eventually happen. Like I said a million times, you have no idea of the consequences of your actions. You do now. Live with it.
You're a cry baby. Don't like it here, pack up that storage unit and get back south of the border where you belong.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: BIG ACH on January 22, 2013, 05:19:55 PM
I thought you said that you were done with these rants until the next election?  ;D What happened?

Look, being a new American now (Yay) I believe in this country and its system, regardless of who is in office....  This is the system that has governed and directed the course of the country for the last 200+ years.... It is important to put differences aside and work together to move forward.  At least we have the privilege of changing the game every four years, some other countries do not have that opportunity.  And this is a country that allowed anybody to run for office and make a difference if they so choose to do so, it doesn't have to be at the presidential level, it can be at a level that helps your community, trust me.... I've lived in countries that give you zero opportunities, we need to all work together now, whether we agree or disagree with the man in charge.


BUT and this is a huge BUT.... Coach, I fear your wishes for the country may be fading fast (whether for better or for worse).... Let's be real for a second.... Let's talk candidly, the Republican party, the tea party, the conservatives etc etc have recently generally appealed to the white man....   (I'm not saying this is a firm rule) but when I think of a stereotypical republican I think of a middle aged / older white man what used to be the face of America if I may say.... And with the influx of immigrants that the US is seeing recently, I feel that if the Republican party does not change its model/image/whatever you want to call it, then you're gonna have a long streak of of democrats in office.  Minorities are no longer minorities and they will impact future elections.... The face of America is changing.    25 years ago, the republican party really spoke to the immigrants because of the concept of strong family values etc etc, but today for some reason, I dunno what it is, but things have changed regarding the republican party.

You know I pretty much lean towards the liberal side, but let's have civil discussion and I'd like to hear your thoughts on what I just said.  


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: WOOO on January 22, 2013, 07:00:49 PM
I'm blaming EVERYONE who voted for him. I'm also blaming the people who voted for him on the destruction of this country and not being educated on what was going to eventually happen. Like I said a million times, you have no idea of the consequences of your actions. You do now. Live with it.

Damn right.  I did not vote for obama, but he is the president of the USA and I back him 1000000000% against all our enemies wherever they may be.

I have a B.A. in Poli Sci, and a J.D. (Law Degree) and am avid reader of history.   

I think I know what I am talking about in these matters. 

When I tell you that you are just plain ignorant on political and legal issues, take my word for it. 


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: leadhead on January 22, 2013, 08:11:25 PM
I forget where I read it at but there was an article on the jobs being created were also largely lower salary-type jobs or government jobs.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: HockeyFightFan on January 22, 2013, 08:17:35 PM
I thought you said that you were done with these rants until the next election?  ;D What happened?

Look, being a new American now (Yay) I believe in this country and its system, regardless of who is in office....  This is the system that has governed and directed the course of the country for the last 200+ years.... It is important to put differences aside and work together to move forward.  At least we have the privilege of changing the game every four years, some other countries do not have that opportunity.  And this is a country that allowed anybody to run for office and make a difference if they so choose to do so, it doesn't have to be at the presidential level, it can be at a level that helps your community, trust me.... I've lived in countries that give you zero opportunities, we need to all work together now, whether we agree or disagree with the man in charge.


BUT and this is a huge BUT.... Coach, I fear your wishes for the country may be fading fast (whether for better or for worse).... Let's be real for a second.... Let's talk candidly, the Republican party, the tea party, the conservatives etc etc have recently generally appealed to the white man....   (I'm not saying this is a firm rule) but when I think of a stereotypical republican I think of a middle aged / older white man what used to be the face of America if I may say.... And with the influx of immigrants that the US is seeing recently, I feel that if the Republican party does not change its model/image/whatever you want to call it, then you're gonna have a long streak of of democrats in office.  Minorities are no longer minorities and they will impact future elections.... The face of America is changing.    25 years ago, the republican party really spoke to the immigrants because of the concept of strong family values etc etc, but today for some reason, I dunno what it is, but things have changed regarding the republican party.

You know I pretty much lean towards the liberal side, but let's have civil discussion and I'd like to hear your thoughts on what I just said.  

That 200+ year old system you're talking about is based 100% on The Constitution.

If you don't follow it, the system breaks down.

That is why Americans who believe The Constitution as the countries framework get offended when Obama and his cronies piss on it.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: calfzilla on January 22, 2013, 08:23:38 PM
Things are pretty much the same as before Obama took office except for the gays have more rights. Don't see why coach and the trouble are saying things are so much worse.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Viking11 on January 22, 2013, 08:24:46 PM
I really wish we as Americans could institute a "no dummy vote" rule. Meaning, you got no job, you got no vote dummy. You pay no taxes or live completely off the government, you get no vote dummy. You only go to college and regurgitate the moronic ideas that some liberal professor spoon fed you, you get no vote DUMMY!!!
You believe a ghost made the universe in 6 days, you get no vote..


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: avxo on January 22, 2013, 08:27:13 PM
I really wish we as Americans could institute a "no dummy vote" rule. Meaning, you got no job, you got no vote dummy. You pay no taxes or live completely off the government, you get no vote dummy. You only go to college and regurgitate the moronic ideas that some liberal professor spoon fed you, you get no vote DUMMY!!!

Egads. One troll is squashed, 2 pop up... LOL at the whole "liberal professor" bit.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: calfzilla on January 22, 2013, 08:27:44 PM
You believe a ghost made the universe in 6 days, you get no vote..

Lol.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: garebear on January 22, 2013, 08:48:26 PM
Really glad Obama got re-elected. I'm going to enjoy the meltdowns that ensue.

Three years and 362 days left!



Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: arce1988 on January 22, 2013, 09:41:39 PM
  You believe a ghost made the universe in 6 days, you get no vote.


;D


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: avxo on January 22, 2013, 09:48:01 PM
You believe a ghost made the universe in 6 days, you get no vote..

BOOM! ;D


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: CARTEL on January 22, 2013, 10:16:34 PM
I thought you said that you were done with these rants until the next election?  ;D What happened?

Look, being a new American now (Yay) I believe in this country and its system, regardless of who is in office....  This is the system that has governed and directed the course of the country for the last 200+ years.... It is important to put differences aside and work together to move forward.  At least we have the privilege of changing the game every four years, some other countries do not have that opportunity.  And this is a country that allowed anybody to run for office and make a difference if they so choose to do so, it doesn't have to be at the presidential level, it can be at a level that helps your community, trust me.... I've lived in countries that give you zero opportunities, we need to all work together now, whether we agree or disagree with the man in charge.


BUT and this is a huge BUT.... Coach, I fear your wishes for the country may be fading fast (whether for better or for worse).... Let's be real for a second.... Let's talk candidly, the Republican party, the tea party, the conservatives etc etc have recently generally appealed to the white man....   (I'm not saying this is a firm rule) but when I think of a stereotypical republican I think of a middle aged / older white man what used to be the face of America if I may say.... And with the influx of immigrants that the US is seeing recently, I feel that if the Republican party does not change its model/image/whatever you want to call it, then you're gonna have a long streak of of democrats in office.  Minorities are no longer minorities and they will impact future elections.... The face of America is changing.    25 years ago, the republican party really spoke to the immigrants because of the concept of strong family values etc etc, but today for some reason, I dunno what it is, but things have changed regarding the republican party.

You know I pretty much lean towards the liberal side, but let's have civil discussion and I'd like to hear your thoughts on what I just said.  

The party didn't change, the people changed. Look how fucked up our family values are.

Immigrants want access to free shit and the Dems will give them the access for the price of a vote.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Master Blaster on January 22, 2013, 10:21:34 PM
Neither party is taking the country's problems seriously. I've decided lately to stop blaming Democrats and Obama and to start getting ready for the global debt crisis collapse. I'm not storing food, or anything. I'm just getting mentally ready ready for some tough times.  8)


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: arce1988 on January 22, 2013, 10:52:00 PM
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130122134935-03-obama-daughters-0121-video-tease.jpg)


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 22, 2013, 11:16:26 PM
I thought you said that you were done with these rants until the next election?  ;D What happened?

Look, being a new American now (Yay) I believe in this country and its system, regardless of who is in office....  This is the system that has governed and directed the course of the country for the last 200+ years.... It is important to put differences aside and work together to move forward.  At least we have the privilege of changing the game every four years, some other countries do not have that opportunity.  And this is a country that allowed anybody to run for office and make a difference if they so choose to do so, it doesn't have to be at the presidential level, it can be at a level that helps your community, trust me.... I've lived in countries that give you zero opportunities, we need to all work together now, whether we agree or disagree with the man in charge.

ACH, we are still, comparatively, a young country, yet in that relatively short time we have became the leaders of the world because of the system our forefathers have designed. I also understand that nothing this big can possibly be perfect. But trying to change a system that has worked to a system (a Euro system) that has never worked goes beyond all sensible logic. True, anyone (that is American born) can run for office but the difference that some are trying to change, again, does not work. This is hearsay, this is proven fact. Just because we have a short recovery because of what I call, confiscation of taxes doesn't mean that it will work in the long run, it's 100% impossible.  


BUT and this is a huge BUT.... Coach, I fear your wishes for the country may be fading fast (whether for better or for worse).... Let's be real for a second.... Let's talk candidly, the Republican party, the tea party, the conservatives etc etc have recently generally appealed to the white man....   (I'm not saying this is a firm rule) but when I think of a stereotypical republican I think of a middle aged / older white man what used to be the face of America if I may say.... And with the influx of immigrants that the US is seeing recently, I feel that if the Republican party does not change its model/image/whatever you want to call it, then you're gonna have a long streak of of democrats in office.  Minorities are no longer minorities and they will impact future elections.... The face of America is changing.    25 years ago, the republican party really spoke to the immigrants because of the concept of strong family values etc etc, but today for some reason, I dunno what it is, but things have changed regarding the republican party.

ACH, you don't have to tell me they're fading, it's happening daily. But that doesn't mean I will change my thoughts or how I live my life. I will still keep my guns, my healthcare, my business, what I won't be doing is contributing to the economy nearly as much. I will support my local businesses, I won't buy American made vehicles or almost any union product. When I say I'm "Obama proof" it's because I got smart the first year he was re-elected....I eliminated all (except the mortgages on my two homes) debt completely. Now, come Feb when my taxes get done, will bring a whole new set of problems, not just for me, but EVERYONE, poor, middle and upper classes. Nothing is free, the fake stimulus, Obamacare, his vacations all have to be paid for. Now, as far as the GOP  appealing to the white man? Colin Powell (a now liberal) Condelezza Rice, etc. People have been sold a bill of goods and people fell for it. people like tbomz, Benny, the freeloaders who are looking for a handout. It used to be that if you were on UE, you're ashamed, now it's an acceptable way of living your life.  

You know I pretty much lean towards the liberal side, but let's have civil discussion and I'd like to hear your thoughts on what I just said.  

Short answers. Again, this is the choice of his voters. But, if we would have had a bigger voter turnout, no voter fraud from the left (proven) this would have been a landslide for Romney.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on January 22, 2013, 11:20:44 PM
Obama panders to people from failed social backgrounds.  Immigrants with a social history of failure, natural born citizens with a social history of failure, and bleeding hearts with little to no common sense.


The long term results of this are obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense.  The USA will inherit what these people bring with them, both morally and financially.


We have a similar problem where I come from too.


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 22, 2013, 11:22:17 PM
Obama panders to people from failed social backgrounds.  Immigrants with a social history of failure, natural born citizens with a social history of failure, and bleeding hearts with little to no common sense.


The long term results of this are obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense.  The USA will inherit what these people bring with them, both morally and financially.


We have a similar problem where I come from too.


Exactly, I agree 100%


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 22, 2013, 11:28:33 PM
Is it just me or has the number or gays increased in the last 4 years? or maybe there comming out of hiding? either way its DISGUSTING. I mean if you want to watch the news theres bound to be atleast one OPENLY gay anchor. Go to Zoos and parks(or other family places) and you can see a gay couple with an adopted kid, its sickening. I was in Manhattan once and there was a guy wearing "assless chap" dancing up and down singing  :-X. I mean can you imagine somthing like this happening 20 years ago?


Title: Re: I've decided to not blame Obama...
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on January 22, 2013, 11:35:39 PM
home sales have been the highest now than theyve been in 5 years (ie people getting broke as shit)

Capital must protect itself in every way... Debts must be collected and loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a process of law the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law applied by the central power of leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principle men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capitalism to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd. - JP Morgan (1837 - 1913)