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Title: 2012 Mr. Olympia - Kai Greene definitely should of won!
Post by: Wiggs on January 24, 2013, 12:45:54 PM
Start at 1:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkwhQYvKOeA


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2013, 01:02:49 PM
Start at 1:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkwhQYvKOeA
BACK IS INHUMAN ...


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 24, 2013, 01:35:39 PM
the sho was held at night but the placing of kai 2nd was daylight robbery
Kai won that show... hands down..... and was robbed badly
I don't know where he finds the motivation to compete and come back again....this year at the o after being so clearly robbed..... even if he wins again they will just give it to heath


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Wiggs on January 24, 2013, 01:37:49 PM
I've been reviewing various video and pics now that the hype has died down and Kai won that show. No by alot, but he was in better condition and beat Phil in majority of the poses.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 24, 2013, 01:40:12 PM
Can't remember who it was, but somebody broke it down to like 7 comparisons and Kai had 4/7 of them, for sure.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Twaddle on January 24, 2013, 01:42:31 PM
I've been reviewing various video and pics now that the hype has died down and Kai won that show. No by alot, but he was in better condition and beat Phil in majority of the poses.

Yeah, but he fucked a grapefruit.   :-\   :D


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 24, 2013, 01:47:11 PM
ab/ thigh kai
fdb kai
MM .. people give this to heath .. i wouldnt.... chest disappears ..but the two massive arms blind people so ok.... being generous heath
bdb kai
front lat kai
side tri heath (due to lateral tri head)
rls kai


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: mass243 on January 24, 2013, 01:55:05 PM

Kaj is mussive.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 24, 2013, 01:55:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7K4jH7NqUw


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 24, 2013, 02:00:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7K4jH7NqUw

 ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Papper on January 24, 2013, 02:13:51 PM
dont need to watch the video, i remember he won. i did careful analyses of this the days ensuing the pageant and came to that conclusion. but it was pretty close.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: prizm on January 24, 2013, 02:28:20 PM
Agreed


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Archer77 on January 24, 2013, 02:30:01 PM
I'm a Heath fan and initially I thought he won but after seeing more pics its pretty obvious Kai won.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: G_Thang on January 24, 2013, 02:53:36 PM
kai lost the night show, esp the finally posedown, gave it away to phil with a smile on his face. maybe he learns this year that he'll have to step on phil, if it comes to that.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=366278.0;attach=402067;image)

phil isn't giving up his baller toys and nuggets tickets that easy.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 24, 2013, 03:24:10 PM
kai lost the night show, esp the finally posedown, gave it away to phil with a smile on his face. maybe he learns this year that he'll have to step on phil, if it comes to that.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=366278.0;attach=402067;image)

phil isn't giving up his baller toys and nuggets tickets that easy.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
kai didnt lose the gave the gift... a gift


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Dipadidu on January 24, 2013, 08:28:23 PM
don't forget that Heath stood at least one feet closer to the camera...


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Howard on January 24, 2013, 08:30:23 PM
I've been reviewing various video and pics now that the hype has died down and Kai won that show. No by alot, but he was in better condition and beat Phil in majority of the poses.

It was close but  felt Kai ahd the edge in all aspects of size, width, legs and separation


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: AVBG on January 24, 2013, 08:44:25 PM
Kai was clearly the better bodybuilder - those bastards judging couldn't lie straight in bed.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Parker on January 24, 2013, 10:28:03 PM
Kai is Phil's Achilles heel...Phil can beat anybody else on any given day, except Kai.

And because of this, and the outcome of the 2012 Mr. O, Phil will have to step it up. Because that is what Kai will do. If Phil's physique resembles Kev's, it's gonna be time now that Phil move Levrone like weight. Because that is what Kai will be doing as well.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: G_Thang on January 24, 2013, 11:14:19 PM
Kai is Phil's Achilles heel...Phil can beat anybody else on any given day, except Kai.

And because of this, and the outcome of the 2012 Mr. O, Phil will have to step it up. Because that is what Kai will do. If Phil's physique resembles Kev's, it's gonna be time now that Phil move Levrone like weight. Because that is what Kai will be doing as well.

kai can't carry the weight, looks like wet shit, when he comes in ronnie's size.  phil is taller, so he can accommodate 5lbs or more.  kai will never beat him.  hence, phil continues to live his nba dream thru bbing. 


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 24, 2013, 11:27:25 PM
kai can't carry the weight, looks like wet shit, when he comes in ronnie's size.  phil is taller, so he can accommodate 5lbs or more.  kai will never beat him.  hence, phil continues to live his nba dream thru bbing. 
I think Kai is taller


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Wiggs on January 24, 2013, 11:36:03 PM
Kai is listed at 5'8 and Phil at 5'9. Kai can hold more weight because he's wider. Phil gives the illusion he's bigger than he is. Ronnie at his best in 98 was 252. Kai at his best (2012) was in the mid 250s.

And yes, Kai is Phil's Achilles heel. He beat Phil at the Arnold...twice. Phil has no Arnold's. Kai's found his look and just needs to keep doing what he's doing.  Kai will beat Phil in the O.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Papper on January 26, 2013, 12:37:33 PM
Kai is listed at 5'8 and Phil at 5'9. Kai can hold more weight because he's wider. Phil gives the illusion he's bigger than he is. Ronnie at his best in 98 was 252. Kai at his best (2012) was in the mid 250s.

And yes, Kai is Phil's Achilles heel. He beat Phil at the Arnold...twice. Phil has no Arnold's. Kai's found his look and just needs to keep doing what he's doing.  Kai will beat Phil in the O.

You mean he steps over the white stripe?


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: NotSure on January 26, 2013, 12:41:38 PM
Start at 1:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkwhQYvKOeA
Stop obsessing over that which is insignificant. Wiggs, i don't believe it has ever been asked but how did end up on this site. What is your link to bodybuilding. Did you ever work out? Why have you been here so many years fat and weird? Serious question.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Parker on January 26, 2013, 12:55:42 PM
kai can't carry the weight, looks like wet shit, when he comes in ronnie's size.  phil is taller, so he can accommodate 5lbs or more.  kai will never beat him.  hence, phil continues to live his nba dream thru bbing. 
true, but what I meant by weight was weight in the gym...odd how Phil is known for his arms, yet Kai and Jay's (when Jay was competing) are bigger than Phil's.
Phil is gonna have to look at MM3, and "Unbelievable" and Kai's workouts and see, that he is gonna have to up the ante. It was too close this time, next time he's gonna have to show that He is Mr. O.
Every Mr. O has their close calls or have lost it. For Haney it was 1990 (and some have said before that). For Dorian it was 94 (some say 96 and 97), and for Ronnie it was when he lost at the GNC. For Jay it was 2008.
Now for Phil it was 2012, narrowly beating the man that has bested him at all the Arnold Classics.
This year is Phil's defining moment.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 26, 2013, 03:59:31 PM
true, but what I meant by weight was weight in the gym...odd how Phil is known for his arms, yet Kai and Jay's (when Jay was competing) are bigger than Phil's.
Phil is gonna have to look at MM3, and "Unbelievable" and Kai's workouts and see, that he is gonna have to up the ante. It was too close this time, next time he's gonna have to show that He is Mr. O.
Every Mr. O has their close calls or have lost it. For Haney it was 1990 (and some have said before that). For Dorian it was 94 (some say 96 and 97), and for Ronnie it was when he lost at the GNC. For Jay it was 2008.
Now for Phil it was 2012, narrowly beating the man that has bested him at all the Arnold Classics.
This year is Phil's defining moment.

if he loses i think phil will completely go to pieces... meltdown...


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Parker on January 26, 2013, 04:24:07 PM
if he loses i think phil will completely go to pieces... meltdown...
possibly...and then, he'll pick himself up, and remake himself.



Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on January 26, 2013, 05:22:51 PM
Stop obsessing over that which is insignificant. Wiggs, i don't believe it has ever been asked but how did end up on this site. What is your link to bodybuilding. Did you ever work out? Why have you been here so many years fat and weird? Serious question.
That's a fair question, and your obsession with Kai!


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: ChristopherA on January 26, 2013, 05:40:27 PM
true, but what I meant by weight was weight in the gym...odd how Phil is known for his arms, yet Kai and Jay's (when Jay was competing) are bigger than Phil's.
Phil is gonna have to look at MM3, and "Unbelievable" and Kai's workouts and see, that he is gonna have to up the ante. It was too close this time, next time he's gonna have to show that He is Mr. O.
Every Mr. O has their close calls or have lost it. For Haney it was 1990 (and some have said before that). For Dorian it was 94 (some say 96 and 97), and for Ronnie it was when he lost at the GNC. For Jay it was 2008.
Now for Phil it was 2012, narrowly beating the man that has bested him at all the Arnold Classics.
This year is Phil's defining moment.
LOL Jay got absolutely destroyed by Vic in 2007. That was a robbery! Jay should have one Olympia tops


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: jakew300 on January 26, 2013, 05:43:11 PM
It pains me to admit it but Kai should have won.   


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Parker on January 26, 2013, 05:50:59 PM
I'll say this, from the pics, Phil's conditioning was better from the back.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 26, 2013, 09:22:06 PM
I'll say this, from the pics, Phil's conditioning was better from the back.
was he  ???


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Parker on January 26, 2013, 09:36:18 PM
was he  ???
This was discussed ad naseum back in Oct, and pics were posted, and Phil was more conditioned from the back.

This is unrelated to the conditioning issue, but watch as both give each other props.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGyEvm-_ILE


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 26, 2013, 09:41:56 PM
This was discussed ad naseum back in Oct, and pics were posted, and Phil was more conditioned from the back.

This is unrelated to the conditioning issue, but watch as both give each other props.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGyEvm-_ILE

a topic discussed "ad nauseum" doesnt influence my opinion on said topic....
I dont see where phil was more conditioned....
i watched that vid, kai indirectly tld phil he needs to not step over the line.....
 heath tries to hide it but he is as arrogant and cocky as hell which came to the fore on stage...


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Parker on January 26, 2013, 09:58:30 PM
a topic discussed "ad nauseum" doesnt influence my opinion on said topic....
I dont see where phil was more conditioned....
i watched that vid, kai indirectly tld phil he needs to not step over the line.....
 heath tries to hide it but he is as arrogant and cocky as hell which came to the fore on stage...
The pics were posted, because people were saying about the vid didn't show it, then the pics were posted and it showed...
And also see in the vid posted, a younger dude in the company calmer older guy. Diff personalities, yet both respect one another.

But, I know one thing, Kai ain't gonna let him get away with that again...


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 26, 2013, 10:08:03 PM
i know you are a phil fan... im not really a fan of either physique... BTW
what did you think of phils behavior on stage...(not just stepping over the line)


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 26, 2013, 10:16:33 PM
kai's RLS pose is astonishingly weak for his great back..


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: erics on January 26, 2013, 10:25:16 PM
This was discussed ad naseum back in Oct, and pics were posted, and Phil was more conditioned from the back.

This is unrelated to the conditioning issue, but watch as both give each other props.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGyEvm-_ILE

Kai has a lot of rage inside of him. Hope he finally gets over it.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Parker on January 26, 2013, 10:32:49 PM
i know you are a phil fan... im not really a fan of either physique... BTW
what did you think of phils behavior on stage...(not just stepping over the line)
He was wrong, and should have been penalized for it, like anybody else.
He has said before that a winner, does what he has to to win, so it goes lock step with his mentality.
I agree with what G had said, Phil is like Flex Wheeler, except with Jay as a guidance counselor.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 26, 2013, 10:37:20 PM
yes he is like flex only flex was real with the cockiness...



Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: anabolichalo on January 27, 2013, 03:04:04 AM
kai beats phil in front lat spread and side chest (his legs in this pose)


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: cswol on January 27, 2013, 09:59:52 AM
kai was definitely harder, with more striations and cuts, that is a fact


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 27, 2013, 10:03:02 AM
Yeah, but he fucked a grapefruit.   :-\   :D

Only thing anybody needs to know right there about why he won't win. And, if he does, that's this "sport" finally admitting it won't ever be legit.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Archer77 on January 27, 2013, 10:15:27 AM
Only thing anybody needs to know right there about why he won't win. And, if he does, that's this "sport" finally admitting it won't ever be legit.

And I don't think he can get much bigger and maintain his waist.  Somehow he managed to tighten his waist last year but its going to be a challenge reigning that stomach in.   He has Coleman like potential for a big belly.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: njflex on January 27, 2013, 11:40:58 AM
kai's RLS pose is astonishingly weak for his great back..
his back is so incredible it looks flexed relaxed...his upper traps throw it off,,,,yates rear double bi was like that not as insane as his rear lat spread..


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: anabolichalo on January 27, 2013, 11:46:32 AM
is it really so horrible he fucked a grapefruit?



Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 27, 2013, 11:48:09 AM
is it really so horrible he fucked a grapefruit?


No.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: caseyviator on January 27, 2013, 01:00:29 PM
its truly apples to oranges....kai wins all back poses...phil has a more pleasing look...while kai is a superfreak...kai had maybe a 2 percent better conditioning... really a tough call..overall i still think phil won but kai can and probably will beat phil in the future,,


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: bigjim on January 27, 2013, 01:56:40 PM
He fucked a grapefruit.

Arnold wouldnt fuck a grapefruit.

Bring back the golden days


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: NotSure on January 27, 2013, 01:59:22 PM
Kai is listed at 5'8 and Phil at 5'9. Kai can hold more weight because he's wider. Phil gives the illusion he's bigger than he is. Ronnie at his best in 98 was 252. Kai at his best (2012) was in the mid 250s.

And yes, Kai is Phil's Achilles heel. He beat Phil at the Arnold...twice. Phil has no Arnold's. Kai's found his look and just needs to keep doing what he's doing.  Kai will beat Phil in the O.
Answer the question please.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 27, 2013, 02:18:50 PM
j


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 27, 2013, 02:24:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjEoKtlpk6Q


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Parker on January 27, 2013, 03:28:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjEoKtlpk6Q
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=442667.0;attach=486291;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=442655.0;attach=486252;image)
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB73995wtmk.JPG)


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Parker on January 27, 2013, 03:32:43 PM
What do you think?
http://npcnewsonline.com/36131/36131/  (http://npcnewsonline.com/36131/36131/)

http://www.flexonline.com/galleries/ifbb-olympia-weekend-2012/comparisons-phil-heath-and-kai-greene-2012-mr-olympia/comparison/slide/137/?dest=/galleries/ifbb  (http://www.flexonline.com/galleries/ifbb-olympia-weekend-2012/comparisons-phil-heath-and-kai-greene-2012-mr-olympia/comparison/slide/137/?dest=/galleries/ifbb)


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 27, 2013, 05:17:05 PM
dont agree with the pose by pose breakdown at all

fdb kai won IMO they have it phil
side chest kai won  they gave it to phil
rls id say phil won .. they gave that to kai
bdb they tried to say was even no way kai won
ab and thigh tey gave to phil...... ha ha ha....
that breakdown was laughable


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: LATS on January 27, 2013, 05:22:07 PM
Bigjim... I can tell ya that Arnold may not have banged a grapefruit but he did other things that would make ya pucker a bit.. The Internet really broke open the gay for pay thing ect.. But trust if Arnold, Chris Dickerson, bill grant, bob birdsong, and numerous others would have been competing inthe Internet age you would see so serious crap lol.. Hell bob birdsong was i numerous gay porn movies... Cris was in gay mags... This is nothing new i bodybuilding..


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on January 27, 2013, 10:01:38 PM
It's over, Phil fucking won get over it, there have been worse decisions in the sport! See if Phil can make it 3 in row!


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on January 28, 2013, 06:20:55 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=442667.0;attach=486291;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=442655.0;attach=486252;image)
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB73995wtmk.JPG)
Kai has no fucking Traps!


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 28, 2013, 06:35:36 AM
Kai has no fucking Traps!
Remedy .. Heavy deadlifts


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Parker on January 28, 2013, 06:40:10 AM
Remedy .. Heavy deadlifts
I think the Kevin Levrone Shrug Program might be better


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 28, 2013, 06:45:46 AM
Naw not for Kai he is always shrugging in his videos ... I think he does dips and shrugs before each workout...

See johnnie and Ronnie traps
*heavy dead lifts


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Grape Ape on January 28, 2013, 06:52:42 AM
Naw not for Kai he is always shrugging in his videos ... I think he does dips and shrugs before each workout...

See johnnie and Ronnie traps
*heavy dead lifts

It probably has nothing to do with training at this point.  It just is what it is.


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: njflex on January 28, 2013, 08:29:48 AM
KAI'S BACK IS NUTS SPREAD,SHAPE,LOWER.RELAXED LOOKS THE SAME,WEIRD STRAIGHT PLAIN ON TRAPS IN RLS JUST HIS GENES I THINK,,IF HE STARTS SHOOTING IN THERE UNLESS HE ALREADY DOES I DON'T KNOW HE COULD GET UGLY LOOKING .


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on January 28, 2013, 09:59:28 AM
KAI'S BACK IS NUTS SPREAD,SHAPE,LOWER.RELAXED LOOKS THE SAME,WEIRD STRAIGHT PLAIN ON TRAPS IN RLS JUST HIS GENES I THINK,,IF HE STARTS SHOOTING IN THERE UNLESS HE ALREADY DOES I DON'T KNOW HE COULD GET UGLY LOOKING .
Heavy Shrugs worked for me up to 495!


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 28, 2013, 09:25:24 PM
Naw not for Kai he is always shrugging in his videos ... I think he does dips and shrugs before each workout...

See johnnie and Ronnie traps
*heavy dead lifts

many it's all genetics..


Title: Re: Kai won.
Post by: anabolichalo on January 29, 2013, 08:25:21 AM
He fucked a grapefruit.

Arnold wouldnt fuck a grapefruit.

Bring back the golden days
arnold most likely did worse things

just these days with internet it's different