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Title: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 28, 2013, 06:04:10 PM
It must be a disease guys have that make them train like this even at the "top" level.... ego train with weights they know they cant handle ... why not just press what you can do yourself?
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 405 press (musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: arce1988 on January 28, 2013, 06:14:43 PM
  ALL PED
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 405 press (musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 28, 2013, 06:19:11 PM
lololol, do you actually believe either of them is natural?

I would not know.... Im happy with myself so i never wonder what everyone else is doing ... I never speculate on such things because

1. I know how it feels to be accused of taking stuff you have no clue about
2. doesnt matter to me...

what i will say is....this... if one competes then there is a high possibility that that person will do whats necessary to compete...
people always tell me man you should compete .. my answer ... never....
btw the guy with the dreads isnt even 200... just has good genetics and insertion .. he competes at 185... and is 6'2

Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 405 press (musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 28, 2013, 06:21:22 PM
only positive thing that came from this video for me.. was after seing them basterdise pullups....
i decided to go up on weighetd chins today back day.... never usually go past a plate.... did 6 sets, finishing with 2 plates on the waist full range up and down
 8)
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: lightweight83 on January 28, 2013, 06:36:57 PM
I seriously hope no one truly believes that either of these guys is even close to natty.  Hard to believe that Ulysses is under 200 in this video too, especially if he's 6'2.  He makes me look like a fly weight, and I'm almost 200 at 5'11. 
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: NYSTATEOFMIND on January 28, 2013, 06:53:46 PM
Natural or not that Ulysissies has a great build ( at least upper body)
but them is some chocolate booty bandits if i ever saw some....they could conquer pussy by the barrell....but they choose the cack
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 28, 2013, 07:03:08 PM
I seriously hope no one truly believes that either of these guys is even close to natty.  Hard to believe that Ulysses is under 200 in this video too, especially if he's 6'2.  He makes me look like a fly weight, and I'm almost 200 at 5'11. 
He competes under 200 or so I read he has a slight frame and round muscle belies everyone's 200 won't look the same
My concern is the garbage training
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: arce1988 on January 28, 2013, 07:03:56 PM
  Meso is right   I see NO point of benching 600 when you have people helping you lift it. It is just dangerous.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 28, 2013, 07:49:16 PM
  Meso is right   I see NO point of benching 600 when you have people helping you lift it. It is just dangerous.
I understand when you see beginners or idiots in the gym doing it but I would expect that from a world champ
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: AVBG on January 28, 2013, 08:21:23 PM
They probably don't go near that kind of weight used when there's no camera. Lol @ the natural speculation :D
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: prizm on January 29, 2013, 01:04:53 AM
Yeah Ulysses has a top tier physique..shame he's still pushing the natural shit
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 29, 2013, 01:41:06 AM
ulysses guy looks phenomel actually.better than most ifbb pros.


benching with help is pure ego thing and not really needed for growth.
He has a good shape good muscle insertions narrow waist ... But he's not really a big guy IMO
No where close to ifbb size
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 29, 2013, 01:47:53 AM
Both these guys are "champions"  appalling training also on the chins ....
Also he pressed 365 with his friend pulling the weight of him from rep one ... He then got up straight away and said "4 plates on incline that's how we do"
(Shakes head)
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Parker on January 29, 2013, 02:06:11 AM
Natural or not that Ulysissies has a great build ( at least upper body)
but them is some chocolate booty bandits if i ever saw some....they could conquer pussy by the barrell....but they choose the cack
Seriously?
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: WOOO on January 29, 2013, 02:09:24 AM
clumsy form with a lot of assistance on those presses... guy sticks a needle in his ass
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Karpaasi on January 29, 2013, 02:10:23 AM
That was brutal on 2:48 mark. The guy basically holds "365" without fingers gripping the bar and with akward wrist angle. If you watch the motion of the movement carefully you can clearly see that there's is probably 135 or 185 on the bar and they try to make it look heavy.

These guys are taking lying to a whole new level.

Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 29, 2013, 03:38:52 AM
Why is everyone surprized?

Mesomorph 78, one of the biggest liars in the history of getbig, who take a lot of hormonas for years yet always brags about being natural on 2 jamaican meals a day, a redbull and some oreos, starts a thread about one of the most MEDIATIZED liars in the physique industry.

Both of them are filthy liars.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: BigCyp on January 29, 2013, 03:42:25 AM
Why is everyone surprized?

Mesomorph 78, one of the biggest liars in the history of getbig, who take a lot of hormonas for years yet always brags about being natural on 2 jamaican meals a day, a redbull and some oreos, starts a thread about one of the most MEDIATIZED liars in the physique industry.

Both of them are filthy liars.

Lol yes Seb, Meso has told less truths than the Devil himself.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Marty Champions on January 29, 2013, 04:26:01 AM
Both these guys are "champions"  appalling training also on the chins ....
Also he pressed 365 with his friend pulling the weight of him from rep one ... He then got up straight away and said "4 plates on incline that's how we do"
(Shakes head)

are you fearful this afro americans will become more notroious than you because they are nattys?

btw stop acting so pretentious just because these nattys might outlift you
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 29, 2013, 04:36:02 AM
Lol yes Seb, Meso has told less truths than the Devil himself.
True. However, the Devil cannot bench 405 natty on a 163lbs frame and 200 lbs WITH the natural muscle after 5 Oreo cookies.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 29, 2013, 06:12:57 AM
That was brutal on 2:48 mark. The guy basically holds "365" without fingers gripping the bar and with akward wrist angle. If you watch the motion of the movement carefully you can clearly see that there's is probably 135 or 185 on the bar and they try to make it look heavy.

These guys are taking lying to a whole new level.


do you mean a false grip..... if so thats how i bench......
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Mattyh7688 on January 29, 2013, 06:25:04 AM
Thankful my superior Nordic genetics would make them look like weak thugs in the gym
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Parker on January 29, 2013, 06:28:15 AM
Thankful my superior Nordic genetics would make them look like weak thugs in the gym
remember, it's not how much you lift, but how you look on stage. And many would be hard pressed to look better than Ulysses.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Mattyh7688 on January 29, 2013, 06:31:58 AM
remember, it's not how much you lift, but how you look on stage. And many would be hard pressed to look better than Ulysses.
Ulysess looks incredible and probably would beat me on stage. I'd never in a billion years change my body with his.. White blonde hair blue eye male with literally world famous Abs and a MBA... Or Ulysses, borderline retarded with dreads.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 29, 2013, 06:54:39 AM
remember, it's not how much you lift, but how you look on stage. And many would be hard pressed to look better than Ulysses.

true....
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Parker on January 29, 2013, 06:58:58 AM
Ulysess looks incredible and probably would beat me on stage. I'd never in a billion years change my body with his.. White blonde hair blue eye male with literally world famous Abs and a MBA... Or Ulysses, borderline retarded with dreads.
good
But, I believe he's gotten tons of modeling gigs for his looks and "locks"...
I don't know of his educational background. But, there are tons of bbers with Masters, JD's, and PhDs who are swimming in debt right now.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: G_Thang on January 29, 2013, 07:11:50 AM
 ::)

4 plates on the incline.

i can do 3 on the incline with a smith and no spotter for 3-4 reps LIFE TIME NATURALLY @ 190.


another lying drug user.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: wild willie on January 29, 2013, 07:25:33 AM
Ulysess looks incredible and probably would beat me on stage. I'd never in a billion years change my body with his.. White blonde hair blue eye male with literally world famous Abs and a MBA... Or Ulysses, borderline retarded with dreads.
arrogance at it's finest....
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Mattyh7688 on January 29, 2013, 07:28:05 AM
arrogance at it's finest....
I forgot to mention I am one of the top 3 strongest getbiggers, strongest "active" one.

Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 29, 2013, 07:32:30 AM
::)

4 plates on the incline.

i can do 3 on the incline with a smith and no spotter for 3-4 reps LIFE TIME NATURALLY @ 190.


another lying drug user.

it was 3 and a hald and he didnt get one rep himself....
a spotter is to help once you get to failure not to yank the bar from rep.. amazing that that a guy at that level.. ego trains
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 29, 2013, 07:34:59 AM
Ulisses looks decent standing relaxed.. the moment he raises his arms he is gone.. another overhyped set of abs.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Metabolic on January 29, 2013, 07:48:52 AM
Everything on this video was cringeworthy, the outright lying, the horrible form, the broscience spewed.  Aesthetics guys nonetheless (no homo).
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: che on January 29, 2013, 07:56:39 AM
6'2'' ;D

5'9'' max
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 09:01:15 AM
::)

4 plates on the incline.

i can do 3 on the incline with a smith and no spotter for 3-4 reps LIFE TIME NATURALLY @ 190.


another lying drug user.
THAT IS STRONG AS SHIT G,,,,
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Wiggs on January 29, 2013, 09:14:00 AM
Ulysess looks incredible and probably would beat me on stage. I'd never in a billion years change my body with his.. White blonde hair blue eye male with literally world famous Abs and a MBA... Or Ulysses, borderline retarded with dreads.

Um, dude, You can be blond and have blue eyes all day long. You're still a bodybuilder.  Ulysess S. Grant looks like a god. I've see the guy in person, it's insane.  He pulls pussy you couldn't imagine. He could have your mother if he wanted.  No offense, but I'd rather look like USG than you. even with an MBA. Im not going to hate on the dude. He's good looking, and to 99% of the people, physically perfect. Drugs or not. 
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Mattyh7688 on January 29, 2013, 09:20:26 AM
Um, dude, You can be blond and have blue eyes all day long. You're still a bodybuilder.  Ulysess S. Grant looks like a god. I've see the guy in person, it's insane.  He pulls pussy you couldn't imagine. He could have your mother if he wanted.  No offense, but I'd rather look like USG than you. even with an MBA. Im not going to hate on the dude. He's good looking, and to 99% of the people, physically perfect. Drugs or not. 
dude he is not that good looking. I have seen many good looking black men in my day and have no problem calling a dude good looking.(so homo). He is not that attractive, if you get rid of his body.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/407434_150506795070642_202926127_n.jpg)
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 405 press (musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Natural Man on January 29, 2013, 09:22:18 AM
I would not know.... Im happy with myself so i never wonder what everyone else is doing ... I never speculate on such things because

1. I know how it feels to be accused of taking stuff you have no clue about
2. doesnt matter to me...

what i will say is....this... if one competes then there is a high possibility that that person will do whats necessary to compete...
people always tell me man you should compete .. my answer ... never....
btw the guy with the dreads isnt even 200... just has good genetics and insertion .. he competes at 185... and is 6'2


that s a nice speech and all; but they and you re still on steroids, shitstain.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Wiggs on January 29, 2013, 09:27:33 AM
dude he is not that good looking. I have seen many good looking black men in my day and have no problem calling a dude good looking.(so homo). He is not that attractive, if you get rid of his body.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/407434_150506795070642_202926127_n.jpg)

Body and face go together bro. Body subconsciously enhances the face to a degree.  If this dude was walking through a Vegas mall, alot of guys would clench their girlfriends or wives hands once he walked through. It doesn't matter what you think. It matters what they think. Insane body, good looking, dreads, non-thug, fame. Recipe for hot poon dude. He doesn't need to be the best looking cause his body destroys anyones he walks in a room. Even most admitted juice users cause he's not extreme but old school ideal like 70's bodybuilder.  
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Wiggs on January 29, 2013, 09:36:03 AM
Not too many people pro or non pro look as good or better than this.  Oh yeah, he's not 6'2 He's 5'9/5'10.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Nails on January 29, 2013, 09:44:59 AM
there is nothing as effective as 2 guys getting a workout during the same set


Negative Bench press and Deadlift at the exact same time
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 09:47:05 AM
Not to many people pro or non pro look as good or better than this.  Oh yeah, he's not 6'2 He's 5'9/5'10.
IMPRESSIVE VERY MUCH SO,,GREAT SHAPE,,,
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Wiggs on January 29, 2013, 09:49:20 AM
He looks like this or near this year around. Unlike NPC and Pros that are bloated messes most of the time. It's no contest. This is deal.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: G_Thang on January 29, 2013, 10:27:28 AM
Body and face go together bro. Body subconsciously enhances the face to a degree.  If this dude was walking through a Vegas mall, alot of guys would clench their girlfriends or wives hands once he walked through. It doesn't matter what you think. It matters what they think. Insane body, good looking, dreads, non-thug, fame. Recipe for hot poon dude. He doesn't need to be the best looking cause his body destroys anyones he walks in a room. Even most admitted juice users cause he's not extreme but old school ideal like 70's bodybuilder.  

WTF, Wiggs!  You love for dreads and buns is worst than white women.  This negro ain't Eric Benet.



 ;D
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 29, 2013, 10:46:46 AM
there is nothing as effective as 2 guys getting a workout during the same set


Negative Bench press and Deadlift at the exact same time

This!!!

Team NBPDAST!
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Hulkotron on January 29, 2013, 10:51:55 AM
are you fearful this afro americans will become more notroious than you because they are nattys?

btw stop acting so pretentious just because these nattys might outlift you

x2 Are there things?
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 29, 2013, 12:35:29 PM
Not too many people pro or non pro look as good or better than this.  Oh yeah, he's not 6'2 He's 5'9/5'10.

My mistake.... I read somewhere 6,2
And yes he has a great physique
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Wiggs on January 29, 2013, 12:40:00 PM
WTF, Wiggs!  You love for dreads and buns is worst than white women.  This negro ain't Eric Benet.



 ;D

LOL. If I had the discipline, I'd go with dreads but I don't.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: arce1988 on January 29, 2013, 01:10:02 PM
  Recipe for hot poon dude.


  Uhhhh... Only if he wants it (Pussy).
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: arce1988 on January 29, 2013, 01:11:16 PM
  There is nothing as effective as 2 guys getting a workout during the same set


  Negative Bench press and Deadlift at the exact same time


 ;D  I just spit my Coca Cola out!
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 29, 2013, 01:28:12 PM
  There is nothing as effective as 2 guys getting a workout during the same set


  Negative Bench press and Deadlift at the exact same time


 ;D  I just spit my Coca Cola out!
weider double up method
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Archer77 on January 29, 2013, 01:31:34 PM
Doesn't look very impressive when you can't handle the weight.  Young guys with minimal experience will be impressed. 
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Parker on January 29, 2013, 01:41:24 PM
WTF, Wiggs!  You love for dreads and buns is worst than white women.  This negro ain't Eric Benet.



 ;D
Poor Eric, if only Halle gave him some tail on the regular, they would still be together...
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 29, 2013, 02:37:08 PM
Doesn't look very impressive when you can't handle the weight.  Young guys with minimal experience will be impressed. 
this
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Pecsellent on January 29, 2013, 02:46:25 PM
Ulysess looks incredible and probably would beat me on stage. I'd never in a billion years change my body with his.. White blonde hair blue eye male with literally world famous Abs and a MBA... Or Ulysses, borderline retarded with dreads.

"World famous abs" ???

Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Archer77 on January 29, 2013, 03:09:04 PM
this

Great physique though.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 29, 2013, 03:12:10 PM
yes great physique... great genetics
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: arce1988 on January 29, 2013, 03:23:47 PM
  PED + DNA
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Marty Champions on January 29, 2013, 03:25:19 PM
yes great physique... great genetics

do you do dumbell squats if so how much weight to you use?
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 29, 2013, 03:57:46 PM
do you do dumbell squats if so how much weight to you use?
I do my squats with a barbell johnny
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: arce1988 on January 29, 2013, 03:59:35 PM
  You look good, Meso
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Archer77 on January 29, 2013, 04:01:42 PM
yes great physique... great genetics

Didn't want to come off as a jealous dick.  You've got to acknowledge his genetics.  You've got great genetics, my friend.  No homo.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 04:03:06 PM
Didn't want to come off as a jealous dick.  You've got to acknowledge his genetics.  You've got great genetics, my friend.  No homo.
he does,,,
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 29, 2013, 04:09:51 PM
Thanks guys
...
Respect.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Marty Champions on January 29, 2013, 04:24:43 PM
I do my squats with a barbell johnny

thanks but how much weight how ofter per week?
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 29, 2013, 04:29:41 PM
thanks but how much weight how ofter per week?
enough weight to stimulate strength and growth
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Marty Champions on January 29, 2013, 04:31:51 PM
enough weight to stimulate strength and growth
yeah guess that was a dumb question
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: G_Thang on January 30, 2013, 03:46:43 AM
Poor Eric, if only Halle gave him some tail on the regular, they would still be together...

he got Manuela, who in IMO is hotter and more mentally stable.
 
(http://ronewzakcleveland.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/eric-benet-has-baby-girl.jpg)

didn't even know she had a bump. 

david justice must be jealous.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Parker on January 30, 2013, 05:07:17 AM
he got Manuela, who in IMO is hotter and more mentally stable.
 
(http://ronewzakcleveland.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/eric-benet-has-baby-girl.jpg)

didn't even know she had a bump. 

david justice must be jealous.
yep...more stable is the attractive part...
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: NYSTATEOFMIND on January 30, 2013, 05:15:36 AM
Ulysess looks incredible and probably would beat me on stage. I'd never in a billion years change my body with his.. White blonde hair blue eye male with literally world famous Abs and a MBA... Or Ulysses, borderline retarded with dreads.

this sounds like deep inside you lust for this ebony warrior to mound you from behind...licking your earlobes whiles his dreads caress you face....
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 31, 2013, 03:02:00 PM
more of ullyses
chest training by himself

Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 405 press (musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Emmortal on January 31, 2013, 03:11:55 PM

btw the guy with the dreads isnt even 200... just has good genetics and insertion .. he competes at 185... and is 6'2

So what? There's tons of 160lb twinks who are juiced to the gills in my gym.  Weight means jack all.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 31, 2013, 03:15:32 PM
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 405 press (musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 31, 2013, 03:17:24 PM
So what? There's tons of 160lb twinks who are juiced to the gills in my gym.  Weight means jack all.

hes 5'9 btw
i didnt make the thread to comment on his natural status that i havent event thought about
....
the response you quoted was me responding to galienko saying he looks better than so ifbb pros and was huge....
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: cephissus on January 31, 2013, 03:21:31 PM
btw, "natural" bodybuilders lie about their weight and height, too

"but i only compete at 190 and i'm 6'2""

::) ::) ::)

if most wannabe bodybuilders weren't 5'2" they wouldn't be fooled
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 31, 2013, 03:24:00 PM
I hear what you're saying but i really dont care about his natural  status....
Im just suprised someone at that level ego benches....
thats all.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Bevo on January 31, 2013, 04:14:21 PM
I seriously hope no one truly believes that either of these guys is even close to natty.  Hard to believe that Ulysses is under 200 in this video too, especially if he's 6'2.  He makes me look like a fly weight, and I'm almost 200 at 5'11. 

None of them are natural, I knew a few musclemania competitors back in the early 2000's, they are not natural
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Bevo on January 31, 2013, 04:31:23 PM
Not too many people pro or non pro look as good or better than this.  Oh yeah, he's not 6'2 He's 5'9/5'10.

That's a very good every day physique, easy to maintain , big but not stupidly big, cut but not stupidly cut.....
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: prizm on January 31, 2013, 06:45:46 PM
narrow waist  

(http://i48.tinypic.com/10mrl13.jpg)
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Parker on February 01, 2013, 02:07:56 AM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/10mrl13.jpg)
possibly exhaling, and wearing the belt makes it bulge
Here he is posing with Hwang, notice how wide Hwang's waist is compared to his
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m17rtrA77V1r7de4zo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 01, 2013, 09:45:02 AM
possibly exhaling, and wearing the belt makes it bulge
Here he is posing with Hwang, notice how wide Hwang's waist is compared to his
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m17rtrA77V1r7de4zo1_400.jpg)
Really good physique
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Hulkotron on February 01, 2013, 09:47:14 AM
P.E.D.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Wiggs on February 01, 2013, 12:37:54 PM
I guarantee the top guys in that organization pull more pussy than IFBB top guys.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Hulkotron on February 01, 2013, 12:39:54 PM
I hear they do five reps for strength eight reps for mass twelve reps for cuts.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: OTHstrong on February 01, 2013, 12:48:01 PM
remember, it's not how much you lift, but how you look on stage. And many would be hard pressed to look better than Ulysses.
He does not look that good, yes upper body is sick but lower sucks and looks lanky, as for bodybuilding lower body is half of your physique.


LOL at the comment ''that's how champions train" No that is not how champions train, they are taking 100lb of weight off with the hands on spot, easily.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Parker on February 01, 2013, 12:53:04 PM
He does not look that good, yes upper body is sick but lower sucks and looks lanky, as for bodybuilding lower body is half of your physique.


LOL at the comment ''that's how champions train" No that is not how champions train, they are taking 100lb of weight off with the hands on spot, easily.
He has a very good genetic structure, and his look---it looks athletic and good in clothes.
I think most people would rather look like him than say the top 5 of damn near all mr. Olympias.

Legs are ok, and not overdone. This is the type of physique the layperson would be impressed by. Hardcore bbers, wouldn't be impressed.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: OTHstrong on February 01, 2013, 12:57:33 PM
He has a very good genetic structure, and his look---it looks athletic and good in clothes.
I think most people would rather look like him than say the top 5 of damn near all mr. Olympias.

Legs are ok, and not overdone. This is the type of physique the layperson would be impressed by. Hardcore bbers, wouldn't be impressed.
Oh yes I agree, this physique is probably the most wanted physique on the planet, so he looks near perfect, my comments was only in regards to the bodybuilding stage.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Parker on February 01, 2013, 01:01:16 PM
Oh yes I agree, this physique is probably the most wanted physique on the planet, so he looks near perfect, my comments was only in regards to the bodybuilding stage.
our bbing vs his, is like comparing a fighting bull vs a Belgian Blue...one is "functionally" big and muscular and the other is Stupidly Insane Muscular...
He looks almost like what Phil Heath looked like when just starting out (the pic with Jay).
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: OTHstrong on February 01, 2013, 01:02:52 PM
our bbing vs his, is like comparing a fighting bull vs a Belgian Blue...one is "functionally" big and muscular and the other is Stupidly Insane Muscular...
He looks almost like what Phil Heath looked like when just starting out (the pic with Jay).
Ya this dude looks like he can run a marathon no problem.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 405 press (musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: ChristopherA on February 01, 2013, 02:59:17 PM
I would not know.... Im happy with myself so i never wonder what everyone else is doing ... I never speculate on such things because

1. I know how it feels to be accused of taking stuff you have no clue about
2. doesnt matter to me...

what i will say is....this... if one competes then there is a high possibility that that person will do whats necessary to compete...
people always tell me man you should compete .. my answer ... never....
btw the guy with the dreads isnt even 200... just has good genetics and insertion .. he competes at 185... and is 6'2


Here's the thing though Mes, he doesnt have good genetics! if he did he would be responding a hell of allot more to all the anaabolics he's obviously taking. He has good shape no doubt but cant get pro level size or he would already have it. So knowing he would get smoked on a National level, he says "I'm natty"
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: ChristopherA on February 01, 2013, 03:03:26 PM
I hear what you're saying but i really dont care about his natural  status....
Im just suprised someone at that level ego benches....
thats all.
I get your point, weather the thread derailed or not LoL. Yeah the point of 2-3 completely forced reps with 365 is lost on me. I dont like forced reps at all. I might get a spot if it's really heavy and get help on the last rep but to keep churning out forced reps? There is an older guy at my gym, only cares about how much he lifts. He gets like 6-7 forced reps a set, no joke, and counts them all like he really did them. WTF?
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 405 press (musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Parker on February 01, 2013, 03:24:04 PM
Here's the thing though Mes, he doesnt have good genetics! if he did he would be responding a hell of allot more to all the anaabolics he's obviously taking. He has good shape no doubt but cant get pro level size or he would already have it. So knowing he would get smoked on a National level, he says "I'm natty"
He's not trying to be "pro level size"...not everybody want to be that. Plus, he has more name rec and cred than most Pros. He gets more modeling jobs than most Pros.
Most chicks like him at that size, the Schmoes would like him at a bigger size.
If he took the same thing to get "pro size level", with his height of about 5'9 (as was stated), then he'd wreck shop.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: arce1988 on February 01, 2013, 03:24:52 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m17rtrA77V1r7de4zo1_400.jpg)


PED + DNA
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: a_ahmed on February 01, 2013, 03:28:24 PM
PED for sure. But anyways.

Sorry to burst everyone's bubble but 99% of the male population rather boast this appearance than top 5 mr o apperance. Just fact.

In fact woman are repulsed by the Mr O top 1000 appearance lol. In other words, the bulky BBer attracts male crowds (and homos) rather than the female species. Plus what the hell is the point of being close to 300lbs? Feels like shit. Need to eat meals enough for a few families, cost of drugs, food, etc... shit...

Plus it's nice to be able to wipe your own behind once in a while. There's this one canadian Bber locally... stories of him not being able to wipe his behind... ya... that is all.

It's just far more aesthetically pleasing, far more to the 'original roots' of the 70s BB era... vs recent history of triumphing godzillas who eventually become deformed..
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 01, 2013, 05:04:31 PM
I get your point, weather the thread derailed or not LoL. Yeah the point of 2-3 completely forced reps with 365 is lost on me. I dont like forced reps at all. I might get a spot if it's really heavy and get help on the last rep but to keep churning out forced reps? There is an older guy at my gym, only cares about how much he lifts. He gets like 6-7 forced reps a set, no joke, and counts them all like he really did them. WTF?

Forced reps to me means you press the weight until failure and then the spotter helps to get forced reps
If a person is getting assisted from rep one ... They can't do the weight themselves ... I'd be embarrassed to post a video like that... That's ego training big time not what I'd expect from a "world champ" if you can only get 275 or whatever... then that's what you can get why put in a extra hundred pounds and then get someone to yank it off your chest.... Ego I school guys on this all the time in the gym when they ask for a spit and thonk I'm gonna be rowing the weight of their chest
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: OTHstrong on February 01, 2013, 07:15:15 PM
PED for sure. But anyways.

Sorry to burst everyone's bubble but 99% of the male population rather boast this appearance than top 5 mr o apperance. Just fact.

In fact woman are repulsed by the Mr O top 1000 appearance lol. In other words, the bulky BBer attracts male crowds (and homos) rather than the female species. Plus what the hell is the point of being close to 300lbs? Feels like shit. Need to eat meals enough for a few families, cost of drugs, food, etc... shit...

Plus it's nice to be able to wipe your own behind once in a while. There's this one canadian Bber locally... stories of him not being able to wipe his behind... ya... that is all.

It's just far more aesthetically pleasing, far more to the 'original roots' of the 70s BB era... vs recent history of triumphing godzillas who eventually become deformed..
lmao, that's Kovacs you are talking about ''Not being able to wipe his ass"  lol,.. That story started cause he was not physically able to grab his wrist behind his back when doing the side tricep pose, then of course Nasser added to it by saying that it was true cause Nasser stayed at his house. He said the Kovacks would call his wife after every shit but I call BS on the whole thing, but you never know, Kovaks is widest person I have ever seen.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: a_ahmed on February 01, 2013, 11:59:17 PM
hahaha i didnt wana say the name but yes i heard the story from a friend who trained at where he trains lol. I know some other gym facts about the dude but i rather not share here lol. He is a monster for sure. 400lbs of all freak.

Oh and check ur pm brah :D
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: deceiver on February 02, 2013, 02:12:51 AM
Forced reps every workout means you know fuck all about training.

In fact strongman competitors or powerlifters who are thought to train "heavy" don't even approach they max for reps most of the season. If someone, say, can do 400lbs for 5 in squats he would not go over 370lbs most of the off season, using volume to create intensity. It's last 3-4 weeks of every microcycle where you go for 400lbs for 5 and beyond.

Back to the topic, ulysses has a lot of muscle on him, it's just that he doesn't have structure of a big guy. I don't think you can "train" for this kind of physique. You can build muscle and keep low bodyfat, but if you've got wide hips and huge torso you won't get "that" look. Just compare Wheeler to Coleman in 99. Do you really think Coleman had MORE muscle tissue than Wheeler? It's just that he had completely different bone structure. Wheeler would NEVER look impressive in clothes.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Derek_Poundstone.JPG)

Do you think he ever had a choice to train for "aesthetic" physique?
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Parker on February 02, 2013, 05:04:43 AM
Forced reps every workout means you know fuck all about training.

In fact strongman competitors or powerlifters who are thought to train "heavy" don't even approach they max for reps most of the season. If someone, say, can do 400lbs for 5 in squats he would not go over 370lbs most of the off season, using volume to create intensity. It's last 3-4 weeks of every microcycle where you go for 400lbs for 5 and beyond.

Back to the topic, ulysses has a lot of muscle on him, it's just that he doesn't have structure of a big guy. I don't think you can "train" for this kind of physique. You can build muscle and keep low bodyfat, but if you've got wide hips and huge torso you won't get "that" look. Just compare Wheeler to Coleman in 99. Do you really think Coleman had MORE muscle tissue than Wheeler? It's just that he had completely different bone structure. Wheeler would NEVER look impressive in clothes.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Derek_Poundstone.JPG)

Do you think he ever had a choice to train for "aesthetic" physique?
If you have seen pics of Wheeler in clothes, you know that he look damn big, due to his structure and muscle bellies. Flex looked bigger than what he was due to it. And Ronnie looked bigger because he "was". It's a different look. Flex's look was due to the illusion his round muscle bellies gave him. Which is why he could compete at 216-230ish against guys who were 250-280 and win against them.

And Ulisses knows how to train, if you check that second vid of him, he is doing one arms or unilateral  "floor
presses" aka unilateral push ups, off of a fitness type board. This is something I've never seen, but I think the Calesthetics King (on YouTube) does these as well. And he has a pretty good chest development.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Borracho on February 02, 2013, 05:11:07 AM
Hmmm....use enough gear to look great but not ridiculous amounts where you're forced to sell your ass or risk your health, not look like a complete freak to the general population, have a physique that will appeal to 99% of women, be considered a professional in something you enjoy to do, and after all that be able to tell anyone including your friends and family you did it all natural.....seems like a pretty good scam to me.  SIGN ME UP!!!
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: njflex on February 02, 2013, 05:14:37 AM
Hmmm....use enough gear to look great but not ridiculous amounts where you're forced to sell your ass or risk your health, not look like a complete freak to the general population, have a physique that will appeal to 99% of women, be considered a professional in something you enjoy to do, and after all that be able to tell anyone including your friends and family you did it all natural.....seems like a pretty good scam to me.  SIGN ME UP!!!

lol...
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: el numero uno on February 02, 2013, 06:30:32 AM
Hmmm....use enough gear to look great but not ridiculous amounts where you're forced to sell your ass or risk your health, not look like a complete freak to the general population, have a physique that will appeal to 99% of women, be considered a professional in something you enjoy to do, and after all that be able to tell anyone including your friends and family you did it all natural.....seems like a pretty good scam to me.  SIGN ME UP!!!


Great point of view, I'm going to buy some testosterone right now. See you guys later.
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: Ursus on February 02, 2013, 06:50:09 AM
Apart from the presses nothing else draws suspicion from me.

They are partial inclines with a spot - a strong guy with great genetics could easily be lifting that weight after 6-8 years training

His arms are superb - is he natural I genuinely don't know. I do think that someone could look like that naturally though
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: njflex on February 02, 2013, 06:53:25 AM
Apart from the presses nothing else draws suspicion from me.

They are partial inclines with a spot - a strong guy with great genetics could easily be lifting that weight after 6-8 years training

His arms are superb - is he natural I genuinely don't know. I do think that someone could look like that naturally though
good eye ursus,,,
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 02, 2013, 07:11:55 AM
haha, i know a black guy whos looking somewhat like ulysses, and well, hes so far from natural its not even funny.

but, he does indeed claim natural, too.

Not everyone has equal genetics....
I'm sure you know that....
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 02, 2013, 07:13:42 AM
Apart from the presses nothing else draws suspicion from me.

They are partial inclines with a spot - a strong guy with great genetics could easily be lifting that weight after 6-8 years training

His arms are superb - is he natural I genuinely don't know. I do think that someone could look like that naturally though

They aren't partial inclines because he didn't do one rep... Watch the other vid posted on page 4 of him working out in the smith he struggled a lot with 3 plates on a smith which isn't even near 315 free weight so in my estimation 315 would bury him ... Which is besides the point my main point is
Why do guys always do that put weight they can't even Do a rep with and get someone to pull the weight off.... It's silly to see when guys who can't train do it in the gym.... Anyone with over a yrs experience and a good trainer knows that's garbage training ... This guy has been training for maybe 15 - 20 yrs .... Him still doing that is comical
Title: Re: ego training on barbell press 365 press musclemania mr natural champ Ulysses
Post by: njflex on February 02, 2013, 07:26:08 AM
They aren't partial inclines because he didn't do one rep... Watch the other vid posted on page 4 of him working out in the smith he struggled a lot with 3 plates on a smith which isn't even near 315 free weight so in my estimation 315 would bury him ... Which is besides the point my main point is
Why do guys always do that put weight they can't even Do a rep with and get someone to pull the weight off.... It's silly to see when guys who can't train do it in the gym.... Anyone with over a yrs experience and a good trainer knows that's garbage training ... This guy has been training for maybe 15 - 20 yrs .... Him still doing that is comical
build is great,,,lifting is a bit to promote his build to strenght ,,its ok to look like that and incline or smith whatever 2 plates or so fully and not come of bad.