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Title: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: anabolichalo on January 29, 2013, 10:58:10 AM
the previous owners for some reason removed this plaster beam thing in the corner of the ceiling

now it looks all fucked with 3 sides of the ceiling having the beam thing and on one side it's ripped off and the ceiling paper is even coming off because of this


what would you advise?


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Henda on January 29, 2013, 11:44:45 AM
Looks like the coving was removed to fit those blinds, it would be a simple job of fitting a new length but prob cant because of the position of those blinds.


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: anabolichalo on January 29, 2013, 11:47:33 AM
Looks like the coving was removed to fit those blinds, it would be a simple job of fitting a new length but prob cant because of the position of those blinds.
but where do you buy these type of beams that will match the other ones?

is this stuff hand made or how does all this work?

the person that destroyed this to hang a few shitty blinds is an absolute moron


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Princess L on January 29, 2013, 11:58:23 AM
Could you replace the crown molding in the entire room so it all matches?


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Henda on January 29, 2013, 11:59:09 AM
but where do you buy these type of beams that will match the other ones?

is this stuff hand made or how does all this work?

the person that destroyed this to hang a few shitty blinds is an absolute moron

Depends on the age, if its fairly modern d.i.y stores sell them in lengths and some are even pre mitred at the corners, older styles normally have to be custom made,you can take a length to a company than produces plaster mouldings and they will duplicate it for you.
They are just "glued" in place with adheasive.


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: anabolichalo on January 29, 2013, 12:03:13 PM
Could you replace the crown molding in the entire room so it all matches?
possibly

i have no idea how to go about it tho


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: anabolichalo on January 29, 2013, 12:05:27 PM
Depends on the age, if its fairly modern d.i.y stores sell them in lengths and some are even pre mitred at the corners, older styles normally have to be custom made,you can take a length to a company than produces plaster mouldings and they will duplicate it for you.
They are just "glued" in place with adheasive.
i guess i will look around in "do it your self" stores to see if they sell these things

how would you go about removing the other ones (to replace everything for matching) without destroying your ceiling?


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Henda on January 29, 2013, 12:17:25 PM
Carefuly insert a padsaw between the coving and the celing and cut away the old adheasive


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Twaddle on January 29, 2013, 12:20:29 PM
1.  Remove shitty blinds.
2.  Remove the other crown moulding.
3.  Buy new crown moulding.
4.  Install new crown moulding.
5.  Caulk.
6.  Paint.

HTH.


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: gym**rat on January 29, 2013, 12:25:36 PM
Move out of the ghetto baldy.


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: anabolichalo on January 29, 2013, 12:30:39 PM
Move out of the ghetto baldy.
ok let me first win the lottery


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Nails on January 29, 2013, 12:37:51 PM
i would say you remove a 2 foot section of one of the remaining moldings and take it to the hardware store and see if you can match it up

you can reinstall it and use wood filler to make it look like new again

Unless the shit is really really old, you can match it up at a hardware store



when you cut it flip it upside down and cut your angle and dont lay it flat on the saw, it has to be set on the saw at 45deg angle


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOCpdPpkZlQ


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: anabolichalo on January 29, 2013, 12:40:46 PM
upon inspection i wonder maybe they removed it for the heating pipe in the corner

however i assume that has always been there


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Marty Champions on January 29, 2013, 03:06:53 PM
the previous owners for some reason removed this plaster beam thing in the corner of the ceiling

now it looks all fucked with 3 sides of the ceiling having the beam thing and on one side it's ripped off and the ceiling paper is even coming off because of this


what would you advise?

a couple of angles of what you want to show could be a help

are you asking how to put up a baseboard/crown molding to fill in the missing peice?

looks like a very simple job , you might even find studs behined the dry wall to screw a new baseboard to fit

you might be at a loss trying to match the pattern but home depot has a few patterns,  but you can either glue it with liquid nails caulking or like i said if you can find some studs to screw it in do that instead

if you use screws you want to counter-sink the baseboard and drill a hole through the baseboard first if your paranoid about splitting the baseboard with a screw, but do countersink  so when you screw it in the screw itself doesnt split the wood and the head of the screw wont stand out like a sore thumb


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Marty Champions on January 29, 2013, 03:10:01 PM
you could also nail it in with a long skinny nail but i think screws are easier


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: the trainer on January 29, 2013, 03:11:06 PM
the previous owners for some reason removed this plaster beam thing in the corner of the ceiling

now it looks all fucked with 3 sides of the ceiling having the beam thing and on one side it's ripped off and the ceiling paper is even coming off because of this


what would you advise?

A real getbigger would hire a workman to fix his ceiling you broke ass basement dweller.


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Marty Champions on January 29, 2013, 03:17:28 PM
A real getbigger would hire a workman to fix his ceiling you broke ass basement dweller.

youre a baby a real man does things himself cause he has the energy and the will to


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 29, 2013, 03:19:19 PM
the previous owners for some reason removed this plaster beam thing in the corner of the ceiling

now it looks all fucked with 3 sides of the ceiling having the beam thing and on one side it's ripped off and the ceiling paper is even coming off because of this


what would you advise?
Find a matching Crown Moulding that was removed and install.  Very easy.


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 29, 2013, 03:27:03 PM
youre a baby a real man does things himself cause he has the energy and the will to
I have been cutting down trees all day and evening out/grading the soil around the Milk House.  I found one artifact today, an piece of an old railroad track buried about 9 inches deep.  I cleaned it off and it dates to around 1863 or so and is a piece of the old Richmond and Danville Railroad line.  Pretty cool find!


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Marty Champions on January 29, 2013, 03:28:15 PM
Find a matching Crown Moulding that was removed and install.  Very easy.

many are so similiar that he wouldnt notice i dont think if one was slightly off


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 29, 2013, 03:30:55 PM
many are so similiar that he wouldnt notice i dont think if one was slightly off
Yah, it doesn`t look to be anything special.  He could also just take all of them off -leave them off and make up for it by putting larger baseboards which would add height to the room.  I don`t know how tall his ceilings are, but I think that is a good option to consider.


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Marty Champions on January 29, 2013, 03:31:07 PM
I have been cutting down trees all day and evening out/grading the soil around the Milk House.  I found one artifact today, an piece of an old railroad track buried about 9 inches deep.  I cleaned it off and it dates to around 1863 or so and is a piece of the old Richmond and Danville Railroad line.  Pretty cool find!

cool man i find something out here whenever im messing aorund in the backyard with a shovel its weird to find shit, i found a very old railroad spike or nail  too

it was a fucking beautiful day i felt more postiive it was nice to be outside some today i bet you got alot done, so do you have cows or an icecream parlor at the milk house  ;D


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 29, 2013, 03:32:25 PM
cool man i find something out here whenever im messing aorund in the backyard with a shovel its weird to find shit, i found a very old railroad spike or nail  too

it was a fucking beautiful day i felt more postiive it was nice to be outside some today i bet you got alot done, so do you have cows or an icecream parlor at the milk house  ;D
No cows, although I have found Cow Bones. 


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Marty Champions on January 29, 2013, 03:32:36 PM
i was taking about a table spoon of cocoa everyhour for that energy spike today really helped drank tons of water today got alot done


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Marty Champions on January 29, 2013, 03:33:06 PM
No cows, although I have found Cow Bones. 

whats a milk house? or is that an old shed or barn?


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 29, 2013, 03:38:04 PM
whats a milk house? or is that an old shed or barn?
Its just a little building that sits lower in elevation and is made out of stone and has a stone floor.  Some have water running under it from old Ice Houses or little streams.  They were used to keep dairy products cool before electricity.  Pretty Efficient.  Thomas Jefferson used to keep Ice Cream in his along with Milk.


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Marty Champions on January 29, 2013, 03:52:13 PM
Its just a little building that sits lower in elevation and is made out of stone and has a stone floor.  Some have water running under it from old Ice Houses or little streams.  They were used to keep dairy products cool before electricity.  Pretty Efficient.  Thomas Jefferson used to keep Ice Cream in his along with Milk.

yeah i saw a little tid bit on thomas jefforson the other week he owned a shitload of slaves and fucked alicia keys great grandmother who was a slave and had little niglets ;D


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: anabolichalo on February 25, 2013, 02:32:59 PM
still unable to fix this

i went around to home depots like shops

but the things they have to glue on the ceiling are way smaller than what i have

and i just dont understand how it was before it was removed

from the looks of it there was a space between the thing and the wall

and normally it's supposed to be between ceiling and wall

seemed to be like it was between ceiling and mid-air? (just connected on the side walls

wtf

this is really giving me a headache


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Marty Champions on February 25, 2013, 02:41:12 PM
take the other molding down then repaint the ceiling=easiest fix

or painstakingly put something decorative but big enough to fit up there...who ever had something up there before FAILED at doing so because its not up there any more


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Marty Champions on February 25, 2013, 02:42:14 PM
in your situation i think the celing would look better if it was the same color as the walls


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: calfzilla on February 25, 2013, 03:37:06 PM
yeah i saw a little tid bit on thomas jefforson the other week he owned a shitload of slaves and fucked alicia keys great grandmother who was a slave and had little niglets ;D

Lol!


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: B_B_C on February 25, 2013, 04:07:18 PM
what would you advise?

stop asking questions of megafucking confident manly men while they are busy analysing other confident muscle men


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: littledumbells on February 25, 2013, 04:22:11 PM
Put a valence up across the top of the blinds. Butt the crown moulding up to the valence. Do it right just don't put crown across the blinds.


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Princess L on February 25, 2013, 06:23:05 PM
That does kinda look like a cluster...  Like Johnny said, take it down and paint the ceiling (white, not that brick color).   Then either replace the crown molding since you can't find something to match (maybe check online), or just paint the walls an ceiling and forget about replacement.  Consider adding texture to the ceiling to hide all the imperfections and/or maybe do a knock down texture on the walls.

(http://logfurniturehowto.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Compound-Miter-Cuts-in-Crown-Molding.jpg)

(http://muralsandfauxpainting.com/Images/terra-cotta-faux-knockdown.jpg)


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: anabolichalo on February 26, 2013, 12:36:26 AM
take the other molding down then repaint the ceiling=easiest fix

or painstakingly put something decorative but big enough to fit up there...who ever had something up there before FAILED at doing so because its not up there any more
ok

how to take it down without tearing apart celing and wall? cut underneath?


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Marty Champions on February 26, 2013, 06:58:40 AM
ok

how to take it down without tearing apart celing and wall? cut underneath?
flat crowbar and hammer to pry it off dont cut it out for god sakes dont put up that ceiling texture unless you know what the fuck your doing that stuff is aggravating


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Twaddle on February 26, 2013, 07:24:01 AM
ok

how to take it down without tearing apart celing and wall? cut underneath?

Use a box cutter and score the top and bottom seam of the moulding.  Run it down the entire length all the way around the room.  This will cut through the excess paint and caulk.  Next, and Falcones said, use a flat pry bar, or wonderbar and hammer to pry it away from the wall.  Make sure you use a wood shim, so you don't tear up the sheetrock.  Take your time and work from the bottom and top.  (that's what she said)  ;D

(http://hostedmedia.reimanpub.com/TFH/Step-By-Step/FH06JAU_SEADRA_02.JPG)


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: CalvinH on February 26, 2013, 08:12:13 AM
Drill a hole and find the strongest beam,hang a rope with noose at the end over beam,tie rope very tight.let noose hang so your feet don't touch the ground,stand on chair,put noose around neck,step off the chair and kick it out of the way.


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: daddy8ball on February 26, 2013, 08:18:36 AM
My ceiling is looking a bit off too....I'll probably arrange a cleaning.

(http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4fdf519deab8ea3211000012-900/the-living-room-has-a-funky-ceiling.jpg)


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: Hulkotron on February 26, 2013, 08:27:10 AM
if you can find some studs to screw it

 :o


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: monstercalves on February 26, 2013, 10:38:09 AM
still unable to fix this

i went around to home depots like shops

but the things they have to glue on the ceiling are way smaller than what i have

and i just dont understand how it was before it was removed

from the looks of it there was a space between the thing and the wall

and normally it's supposed to be between ceiling and wall

seemed to be like it was between ceiling and mid-air? (just connected on the side walls

wtf

this is really giving me a headache

im a plasterer from uk....the coving has been cut back more than needed or the person doing the job has attempted to put coving up along that window wall, but only attaching it to the ceiling......and then maybe having their blinds running (hidden ) behind the coving



taking the rest of the coving down will most likely damage the ceiling and walls and if the ceiling and walls are papered then the damage will be greater.


strip all paper and coving and full skim will do the trick ;-)


Title: Re: Johny Falcon and other craftsmen, how can I fix my ceiling?
Post by: anabolichalo on February 26, 2013, 12:24:28 PM
i removed it all

and goddamn,

removing all that paper was a bitch in the ass

i had to go to rent a steaming machine to remove that shitty ass paper


goddamnt

took all dfucking day