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I was going to use anavar but someone at the gym told me it made him feel flat, lose weight and look smaller. Altho he did get stronger. I want to put on slabs of beef so i take it this stuff aint no good?
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It is very good in large quantities. Great for girls during prep.
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I met Joe Meeko once....he told me he got his Mr. America win (think that was the contest this was years ago) in nothing but 10mg Anavar a day. Back then, maybe feasible I guess with superior genetics. Prolly not though lol.
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I was going to use anavar but someone at the gym told me it made him feel flat, lose weight and look smaller. Altho he did get stronger. I want to put on slabs of beef so i take it this stuff aint no good?
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T-bol is a far better choice in my opinion.
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I met Joe Meeko once....he told me he got his Mr. America win (think that was the contest this was years ago) in nothing but 10mg Anavar a day. Back then, maybe feasible I guess with superior genetics. Prolly not though lol.
YOUR KIDDING RIGHT????JOE MEEKO WAS HUGE AND SHREDDED IN TOP SHAPE UNLESS THE ANAVAR WAS LACED WITH DBOL.ANADROL,ANDROXEN,IN ONE NICE SUPERPILL THEN MAYBE,,,
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It's not on the order of a Dianabol, Superdrol, Anadrol, etc.... but it's a very good drug. It adds very good quality muscle and strength, but you need to run it high, and it is expensive compared to the other stuff.
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YOUR KIDDING RIGHT????JOE MEEKO WAS HUGE AND SHREDDED IN TOP SHAPE UNLESS THE ANAVAR WAS LACED WITH DBOL.ANADROL,ANDROXEN,IN ONE NICE SUPERPILL THEN MAYBE,,,
You missed the point... Low sides. He was on it non stop for years. Not one cycle. Maybe I wasn't clear. But it was him saying it not me lol.
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You missed the point... Low sides. He was on it non stop for years. Not one cycle. Maybe I wasn't clear. But it was him saying it not me lol.
I WAS BEING FACETIOUS SORRY,,,COULD BE I MEAN BBERS LIE BUT MAYBE WHO KNOW'S HE MIGHT HAVE GOT A LOT OUT OF THEM AND THAT'S WHAT GOT HIM IN SHAPE ...
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T-bol is a far better choice in my opinion.
this
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Anavar and Sero are a great combo
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Who makes Anavar anymore? It use to be made in the US but it hasn't in so many years. Anabolic steroids were made to increase the anabolic properties of testosterone and minimize the androgen properties. Anavar was reported to have the biggest ratio of high anabolic to low androgen. Even with that it's a weak bodybuilding oral. Probably a lot safer than other orals at the same dose.
Forget these drugs. It ultimately results in a dead end of arrest, health and no career due to pursuing the bodybuilding drug life style.
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I met Joe Meeko once....he told me he got his Mr. America win (think that was the contest this was years ago) in nothing but 10mg Anavar a day. Back then, maybe feasible I guess with superior genetics. Prolly not though lol.
probably used more than that.
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Who makes Anavar anymore? It use to be made in the US but it hasn't in so many years. Anabolic steroids were made to increase the anabolic properties of testosterone and minimize the androgen properties. Anavar was reported to have the biggest ratio of high anabolic to low androgen. Even with that it's a weak bodybuilding oral. Probably a lot safer than other orals at the same dose.
Forget these drugs. It ultimately results in a dead end of arrest, health and no career due to pursuing the bodybuilding drug life style.
Still available legally in the US.
Real Anavar gives insane vascularity.
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Still available legally in the US.
Real Anavar gives insane vascularity.
Anavar is still prescribed in the US? Is it made here too? I have a doctor in the family that would know about this. I'm going to ask.
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probably used more than that.
All kigs
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You want a straight up answer, for the money there's a ton of better options. Even if price doesn't matter, Tbol is a better oral like Claymore and MC said
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I met Joe Meeko once....he told me he got his Mr. America win (think that was the contest this was years ago) in nothing but 10mg Anavar a day. Back then, maybe feasible I guess with superior genetics. Prolly not though lol.
He's dead!
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Anavar is still prescribed in the US? Is it made here too? I have a doctor in the family that would know about this. I'm going to ask.
Yes, they give it to AIDS patients. They use to give them deca, but didn't make much money off the deca at 150 for 10 cc's it lasted 5 weeks. Now they give them anavar at 1,500 for a month supply taking 3 pills a day. This is why the pharma co quit making the deca and makes anavar. I fogot the name of the US pharma co.
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probably used more than that.
Looks practically natural
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Franco took tons of it.
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Looks practically natural
Looks Team U ready! :D
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Was he on it here with Anibal and crazy Steve?
(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/2012%20general/Steve%20Michalik/Steve%20Michalik%20and%20friends%202007%20Iron%20Age%20Reunion.jpg)
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Anavar is probably the cleanest oral, D-Bol for me was the best combo of anabolic and androgenic! Loved it. Anavar tends to harden you up! Both worked well for me!
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Looks practically natural
Facial expression gives it away.
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I was going to use anavar but someone at the gym told me it made him feel flat, lose weight and look smaller. Altho he did get stronger. I want to put on slabs of beef so i take it this stuff aint no good?
Yep anavar was created to make people look flat and get smaller. ::) This guy is a fucktard. Taking the right dose for a period of time will result in great muscle gains. Also legit pharm grade anavar is still being made but you can't afford it trust me.
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40-80mg/day works well
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I didn't like their blue skin, apart from that was a good entertaining movie
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Didn't notice any sides at 40mg except for excessive vascularity. Including hands and head.
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Didn't notice any sides at 40mg except for excessive vascularity. Including hands and head.
That's bullshit bro, Galineko only took 0.5mg and had sex with 156 women that night
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That's bullshit bro, Galineko only took 0.5mg and had sex with 156 women that night
Shit. My left temporal vein went to the tit bar and came home dick in hand. >:(
Hope you've been keeping well, squire.
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Shit. My left temporal vein went to the tit bar and came home dick in hand. >:(
Hope you've been keeping well, squire.
Haha yes, it's all good in Sunny England my friend. Take heart and be of good courage.
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Yep anavar was created to make people look flat and get smaller. ::) This guy is a fucktard. Taking the right dose for a period of time will result in great muscle gains. Also legit pharm grade anavar is still being made but you can't afford it trust me.
What do you advise dosage wise for men, 80mg + ?
Obviously I'm referring to the available var, not pharma grade
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I didn't like their blue skin, apart from that was a good entertaining movie
;D
this one slipped under the radar
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What do you advise dosage wise for men, 80mg + ?
Obviously I'm referring to the available var, not pharma grade
Start at 40 if u are a newby as far as steroids in general. If not yeah 80 is about right. Most guys don't stay on long enuff. They cycle 6 weeks go off for 4 then think they have to double the dose.
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;D
this one slipped under the radar
Haha yes big man
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Only problem with Var and Sero ----> $
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Who makes Anavar anymore? It use to be made in the US but it hasn't in so many years. Anabolic steroids were made to increase the anabolic properties of testosterone and minimize the androgen properties. Anavar was reported to have the biggest ratio of high anabolic to low androgen. Even with that it's a weak bodybuilding oral. Probably a lot safer than other orals at the same dose.
Forget these drugs. It ultimately results in a dead end of arrest, health and no career due to pursuing the bodybuilding drug life style.
And most of the UG anavar is not all anavar. Chicks in the gym who think their taking anavar are all bloated and shit because it's really dbol.lol
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And most of the UG anavar is not all anavar. Chicks in the gym who think their taking anavar are all bloated and shit because it's really dbol.lol
That is truth, because of the price.
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Start at 40 if u are a newby as far as steroids in general. If not yeah 80 is about right. Most guys don't stay on long enuff. They cycle 6 weeks go off for 4 then think they have to double the dose.
"Most guys don't stay on long enuff"....Bingo ;)
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That's bullshit bro, Galineko only took 0.5mg and had sex with 156 women that night
;D ;D ;D
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I was going to use anavar but someone at the gym told me it made him feel flat, lose weight and look smaller. Altho he did get stronger. I want to put on slabs of beef so i take it this stuff aint no good?
It is not a great mass builder. alot of pro wmen bodybuilders use anavar. It is so expensive as well! It is also hard to find high wuality anavar(oxandrolone) unless you can get USA BTG oxandrolone. I hav heard of underground labs making anavar capsules and just loading them with a very slight touch of var and mainly putting creatine monohydrate and arginine alpha ketoglutarate(AKG) in the caps. Anavar is a good drug if you want to use a oral that has no estrogen conversion and is somewhat easy on the HPTA.
It is a clean steroid and all you will put on is lean mass but it will be a very small amount. Anavar is pointless to use to jumpstart a cycle. Anavar has some purposes as a cutting steroid. anavar is great for guys who just want to do a safe oral only cycle. It will not make you a monster but if your training and diet is in check you will gain 5 pounds and gain some strength on your lifts but beware where you buy it from.
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How about var as a hardener, combined with a thickener like test e, makes sense?
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All kigs
not kigs...igf(the magical ingredient in kigs) was not available back then
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How about var as an hardener, combined with a thickener like test e, makes sense?
Steroids work period..so yes that makes sense. But usually people have divided them into two different categories...bulking or cutting steroids. For bulking, people in the past have used the ones that put on the most weight/water...dianabol, deca, testosterone e or cyp, androl, etc. For cutting drier compounds like winstrol, masteron, anavar, primo, short estered test like prop or suspension etc.
Though the reality is whether you wanna cut or bulk your results will be determined by diet. If you're gonna get on stage you wanna hold as little water as possible and that's where you should choose more carefully but otherwise you can still get lean on "bulking" steroids. You can also gain with "cutting" steroids and more and more people are using tren in this manner since it will add lean muscle mass without the added bloat that gives people the false sense that they're gaining actual muscle.
All steroids increase protein synthesis and have nutrient partitioning effects meaning your food gets used more efficiently...though some enhance this more than others.
So test e and anavar...yeah its good as long as your diet is structured for your desired goal.
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Steroids work period..so yes that makes sense. But usually people have divided them into two different categories...bulking or cutting steroids. For bulking, people in the past have used the ones that put on the most weight/water...dianabol, deca, testosterone e or cyp, androl, etc. For cutting drier compounds like winstrol, masteron, anavar, primo, short estered test like prop or suspension etc.
Though the reality is whether you wanna cut or bulk your results will be determined by diet. If you're gonna get on stage you wanna hold as little water as possible and that's where you should choose more carefully but otherwise you can still get lean on "bulking" steroids. You can also gain with "cutting" steroids and more and more people are using tren in this manner since it will add lean muscle mass without the added bloat that gives people the false sense that they're gaining actual muscle.
All steroids increase protein synthesis and have nutrient partitioning effects meaning your food gets used more efficiently...though some enhance this more than others.
So test e and anavar...yeah its good as long as your diet is structured for your desired goal.
great post and spot on as well
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He's dead!
suicide a couple of years ago, he had a rough couple of years leading up to it.
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Was he on it here with Anibal and crazy Steve?
(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/2012%20general/Steve%20Michalik/Steve%20Michalik%20and%20friends%202007%20Iron%20Age%20Reunion.jpg)
no that was fairly recent, he stopped taking by then. 2007
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no that was fairly recent, he stopped taking by then. 2007
wasnt he born again?
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wasnt he born again?
No he was dead.
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Yea man - he had a rough couple of years. if I remember correctly he had an un-diagnosed case of lymes disease that basically crippled him before it was finally diagnosed like 5 years later. He spent time on crutches then in a wheel chair. Then his then wife tried to kill him to collect the insurance money from his death - some sort of a car crash scheme. It was really fucked up. This is the woman who basically went "off thee grid" with Joe - living in a solar powered house somewhere out in the middle of nowhere. The home was built into the side of a mountain and I believe Joe and the wife built it themselves for the most part. I only remember bits and pieces of it all. I think they grew / raised all their own food and only went into town to shop for what they couldn't make. I thought this whole Idea was great. Just get the fuck away from society and all the assholes.
Yep - to say he had a couple rough years it to put it lightly. Joe was a cool dude - I corresponded with him a few times way back when I was getting into training. He didn't have to be , but he was real nice answering all my stupid diet and training questions. Definatly a guy I wish didn't check out early.
Galineko may remember more- it seems that he remembers these types of things like i do.
RS
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No he was dead.
Hilarious.
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wasnt he born again?
correct he used to post on a christian bodybuilding web site and ironage. he always seemed like a decent person.
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correct he used to post on a christian bodybuilding web site and ironage. he always seemed like a decent person.
What exactly is a "Christian Bodybuilding" site and how does it differ from traditional Bodybuilding sites? Is it more gay or something and sprinkled with random bible quotes every now and then?
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Yea man - he had a rough couple of years. if I remember correctly he had an un-diagnosed case of lymes disease that basically crippled him before it was finally diagnosed like 5 years later. He spent time on crutches then in a wheel chair. Then his then wife tried to kill him to collect the insurance money from his death - some sort of a car crash scheme. It was really fucked up. This is the woman who basically went "off thee grid" with Joe - living in a solar powered house somewhere out in the middle of nowhere. The home was built into the side of a mountain and I believe Joe and the wife built it themselves for the most part. I only remember bits and pieces of it all. I think they grew / raised all their own food and only went into town to shop for what they couldn't make. I thought this whole Idea was great. Just get the fuck away from society and all the assholes.
Yep - to say he had a couple rough years it to put it lightly. Joe was a cool dude - I corresponded with him a few times way back when I was getting into training. He didn't have to be , but he was real nice answering all my stupid diet and training questions. Definatly a guy I wish didn't check out early.
Galineko may remember more- it seems that he remembers these types of things like i do.
RS
sounds like you know him pretty good. he told some great stories on ironage.his wife tried to kill him with a frying pan see pic with broken arm. he used to train at gold's gym 3 locations in LV and the body factory, also at fitness america allentown.
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What exactly is a "Christian Bodybuilding" site and how does it differ from traditional Bodybuilding sites? Is it more gay or something and sprinkled with random bible quotes every now and then?
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTCqXOImPHhaYO3K9Y_Iq9CqrFfabw6XJmktv9dMWFOxtrGqXhC)
go on midwestchristianbodybuil ding .com/joe meeko/htm and find out.maybe you too can be saved. one of last pics of joe, as he was getting back into shape.
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yes, hes right.besides that, anavar eventhoug suposedly weak, was the only oral steroid that caused me severe severe side effects.so bad i had to stop.
its weird, bc i been drinking winstrol like its milk(can drink it), use anapolon, overdosed halotestins back in the day, dbol i didnt even count, just handfulls at a time etcetc.
but anavar nearly put holes into my stomach.
That sounds uncharacteristic of var....you 100% sure it was legit?
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That sounds uncharacteristic of var....you 100% sure it was legit?
Actually, Dan Duchaine wrote about how Anavar was particularly hard on the stomach. Supposedly
a pretty common side effect.
I didn't notice this myself. Maybe it was some other ingredient in whatever Anavar was common
a couple of decades ago, I don't know.
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Actually, Dan Duchaine wrote about how Anavar was particularly hard on the stomach. Supposedly
a pretty common side effect.
I didn't notice this myself. Maybe it was some other ingredient in whatever Anavar was common
a couple of decades ago, I don't know.
News to me...good to know. High doses will do it? Or are some just prone to it?
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Does anyone think they can tell the difference between anavar and winstrol? I always suspect labs use cheaper winstrol labeled as anavar.
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I didn't like their blue skin, apart from that was a good entertaining movie
;D ;D ;D
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News to me...good to know. High doses will do it? Or are some just prone to it?
I haven't read through all of it in a long time, but he just mentions that in his experience as a trainer, Anavar could cause an uncomfortable feeling of fullness in the stomach for some, and that it seemed to effect the liver worse in some people.
He seemed to like Primobolan much more for bodybuilding stuff, he wasn't anti-anavar, but it wasn't a top steroid with him.
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Does anyone think they can tell the difference between anavar and winstrol? I always suspect labs use cheaper winstrol labeled as anavar.
sane people get us made stuff or legit pharma stuff, unless you looking for bunk garbage
obviously this hits a nerve given so many here invested everything in bs online source junk, as reflected in their shit gains
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its not good to take advice from others regarding their reaction to gear, your system is different and will have a different reaction to it, in some people it makes them very big and strong.
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i dont know, but they came as 2.5 mg tabs, and to be effective, have to take many tabs, i thought the many tabs required is the problem
Sounds brutal man. How high were you dosing? There's a handful of figure girls at my gym that I know are running 10mg/day year round, 20mg/day during prep.
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i dont know, but they came as 2.5 mg tabs, and to be effective, have to take many tabs, i thought the many tabs required is the problem
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this and the price of taking all of the pills needed daily
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probably used more than that.
:o :o
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amazing substance if ran high enough.. 80-100mg
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Exactly Matty
I feel 100mg per day is great
but the problem comes with having to take 40 pills per day and also at the cost
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Anavar is good and most who do not think so is because it is the most faked oral out there, why? because it is the most expansive mg per mg.
So here is my observation from experience; I have purchased online test, drol, eq, tren all come out amazing and from the same site then the var is fake from the same good site that has everything else legit and not only is this common but people will not even suspect so cause var is always stacked, so how would they know, right.
I know cause I test them out and I am very particular on paying attention to the details but like whitewidow said if it is in a capsule form it is either fake or severely watered down. So from experience I can guarantee that 80%+ of the var out there is fake or watered down so nearly impossible to get a reasonable feedback.
Now for your question, real var is amazing, great strength and vascularity, great pumps, hard muscles etc, but does very little on the scale, you will not pack on 30lb on var no matter what, it is 5-10lb muscle gain for most but no water weight whatsoever, so obviously more appropriate to take when in single digit bodyfat levels.
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:)
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Real Anavar is a great drug. Bigger, stronger, no water, never aromatized. Beautiful drug.
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Exactly Matty
I feel 100mg per day is great
but the problem comes with having to take 40 pills per day and also at the cost
yea the human grade stuff is through the roof.. theres a decent amount of trustworthy ugl labs that make it 20-50 mgs, but u still may never know.. the second best option is getting the powder, doing a melting point test on it, then cap it or suspend it in everclear
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Alot of bodybuilders used to believe anavar had no negative effect on the HPTA and would use anavar to bridge in between cycles to help keep cycle net gains. That was early on like late 70's to the early 90's but many doctors came out and expresseed how even anavar was no good for the HPTA. Anavar is just too risky of a buy! like others said some companys sell great dbol,anadrol,winstrol tabs but their anavar is shit! happens all the time, and don't even bother with anavar capsules or liquid anavar! if you can find the BTG Watson wich I think is a watson subsidiary that is the only legit anavar I have seen and it is spendy! all USA Oral AAS are spendy especially oxandrolone and halotestin.A good deal on pharm grade anavar ,halo, and anadrol is 3-5$ a tab.
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Anavar, not Liver Friendly... >:(
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Anavar, not Liver Friendly... >:(
Supposed to be one of the least harsh oral out there on your liver though. If you can find a good source and you have the money for it than by all means go ahead and use it. A lot of guys sitting on the fence wrt juicing become interested because it's supposed to be one of the safest and cause they're afraid of needles but theres much better options out there imo...