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Title: Be careful who you
Post by: arce1988 on February 07, 2013, 12:36:12 AM
http://ktla.com/2013/02/06/read-christopher-dorners-so-called-manifesto/#axzz2KBsws5dO

fuck over in life. Karma.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: arce1988 on February 07, 2013, 12:39:12 AM
Christopher Dornerís Online Manifesto; Disturbing Content and Language
 

From: Christopher Jordan Dorner /7648

To: America

Subject: Last resort

Regarding CF# 07-004281

I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. I know I will be vilified by the LAPD and the media. Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name. The department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days. It has gotten worse. The consent decree should never have been lifted. The only thing that has evolved from the consent decree is those officers involved in the Rampart scandal and Rodney King incidents have since promoted to supervisor, commanders, and command staff, and executive positions.

The question is, what would you do to clear your name?

Name;
A word or set of words by which a person, animal, place, or thing is known, addressed, or referred to.

Name Synonyms;
reputation, title, appellation, denomination, repute.

A name is more than just a noun, verb, or adjective. Itís your life, your legacy, your journey, sacrifices, and everything youíve worked hard for every day of your life as and adolescent, young adult and adult. Donít let anybody tarnish it when you know youíve live up to your own set of ethics and personal ethos.

In 8/07 I reported an officer (Ofcr. XXXX/now a Sergeant), for kicking a suspect (excessive force) during a Use of Force while I was assigned as a patrol officer at LAPDís Harbor Division. While cuffing the suspect, (XXXXX), XXXX kicked the suspect twice in the chest and once in the face. The kick to the face left a visible injury on the left cheek below the eye. Unfortunately after reporting it to supervisors and investigated by PSB (internal affairs investigator Det. XXXX), nothing was done. I had broken their supposed ďBlue LineĒ. Unfortunately, Itís not JUST US, itís JUSTICE!!! In fact, 10 months later on 6/25/08, after already successfully completing probation, acquiring a basic Post Certificate, and Intermediate Post Certificate, I was relieved of duty by the LAPD while assigned to patrol at Southwest division. It is clear as day that the department retaliated toward me for reporting XXXX for kicking Mr. XXXXX. The department stated that I had lied and made up the report that XXXX had kicked the suspect. I later went to a Board of Rights (department hearing for decision of continued employment) from 10/08 to 1/09. During this BOR hearing a video was played for the BOR panel where XXXXX stated that he was indeed kicked by Officer XXX (video sent to multiple news agencies). In addition to XXXXXX stating he was kicked, his father XXXXX, also stated that his son had stated he was kicked by an officer when he was arrested after being released from custody. This was all presented for the department at the BOR hearing. They still found me guilty and terminated me. What they didnít mention was that the BOR panel made up of Capt. XXXXX, Capt. XXXXX, and City Attorney XXXX had a significant problem from the time the board was assembled. Capt. XXXXXX was a personal friend of XXXX from when he was her supervisor at Harbor station. That is a clear conflict of interest and I made my argument for his removal early and was denied. The advocate for the LAPD BOR was Sgt. XXXXX. XXXXX also had a conflict of interest as she was XXXX friend and former partner from Harbor division where they both worked patrol together. I made my argument for her removal when I discovered her relation to XXXX and it was denied.

During the BOR, the department attempted to label me unsuccessfully as a bully. They stated that I had bullied a recruit, XXXXX, in the academy when in reality and unfounded disposition from the official 1.28 formal complaint investigation found that I was the one who stood up for XXXX when other recruits sang nazi hitler youth songs about burning Jewish ghettos in WWII Germany where his father was a survivor of a concentration camp. How fucking dare you attempt to label me with such a nasty vile word. I ask that all earnest journalist investigating this story ask Ofcr. XXXX about the incident when Ofcr. XXXX began singing a nazi youth song about burning jewish ghettos.

The internal affairs investigation in the academy involving Schefres was spurned by a complaint that I had initiated toward two fellow recruit/offifcers. While assigned patrol footbeat in Hollywood Division, Officers XXXXX IV and XXXX (both current LAPD officers) decided that they would voice their personal feelings about the black community. While traveling back to the station in a 12 passenger van I heard XXXX refer to another individual as a black. I wasnít sure if I heard correctly as there were many conversations in the van that was compiled of at least 8 officers and he was sitting in the very rear and me in the very front. Even with the multiple conversations and ambient noise I heard Officer XXXX call an indivdual a black again. Now that I had confirmed it, I told XXXX not to use that word again. I explained that it was a well-known offensive word that should not be used by anyone. He replied, ďIíll say it when I wantĒ. Officer XXXX, a friend of his, also stated that he would say black when he wanted. At that point I jumped over my front passenger seat and two other officers where I placed my hands around XXXXsí neck and squeezed. I stated to XXXX, ďDonít fucking say thatĒ. At that point there was pushing and shoving and we were separated by several other officers. What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Maganaís skull. The Situation would have been resolved effective, immediately. The sad thing about this incident was that when Detective XX from internal affairs investigated this incident only (1) officer (unknown) in the van other than myself had statements constistent with what actually happened. The other six officers  all stated they heard nothing and saw nothing. Shame on every one of you. Shame on Detective XX (same ethnicity as XXX) for creating a separate 1.28 formal complaint against me (XXXX complaint) in retaliation for initiating the complaint against XXXXX and XXXX. Donít retaliate against honest officers for breaking your so-called blue line. I hope your son XXXX, who I knew, is a better officer than you, Detective XX. The saddest part of this ordeal was that Officer XXXX and XXXXX were only given 22 day suspensions and are still LAPD officers to this day. That day, the LAPD stated that it is acceptable for fellow officers to call black officers blacks to their face and you will receive a slap on the wrist. Even sadder is that during that 22 day suspension XXXXX and XXXXX received is that the LAPPL (Los Angeles Police Protective League) paid the officers their salaries while they were suspended. When I took a two-day suspension for an accidental discharge, I took my suspension and never applied for a league salary. Its called integrity.

Journalist, I want you to investigate every location I resided in growing up. Find any incidents where I was ever accused of being a bully. You wonít, because it doesnít exist. Itís not in my DNA. Never was. I was the only black kid in each of my elementary school classes from first grade to seventh grade in junior high and any instances where I was disciplined for fighting was in response to fellow students provoking common childhood schoolyard fights, or calling me a black or other derogatory racial names. I grew up in neighborhoods where blacks make up less than 1%. My first recollection of racism was in the first grade at Norwalk Christian elementary school in Norwalk, CA. A fellow student, Jim Armstrong if I can recall, called me a black on the playground. My response was swift and non-lethal. I struck him fast and hard with a punch an kick. He cried and reported it to a teacher. The teacher reported it to the principal. The principal swatted Jim for using a derogatory word toward me. He then for some unknown reason swatted me for striking Jim in response to him calling me a black. He stated as good Christians we are to turn the other cheek as Jesus did. Problem is, Iím not a fucking Christian and that old book, made of fiction and limited non-fiction, called the bible, never once stated Jesus was called a black. How dare you swat me for standing up for my rights for demanding that I be treated as an equal human being. That day I made a life decision that i will not tolerate racial derogatory terms spoken to me. Unfortunately I was swatted multiple times for the same exact reason up until junior high. Terminating me for telling the truth of a Caucasian officer kicking a mentally ill man is disgusting. Donít ever call me a fucking bully. I want all journalist to utilize every source you have that specializes in collections for your reports. With the discovery and evidence available you will see the truth. Unfortunately, I will not be alive to see my name cleared. Thatís what this is about, my name. A man is nothing without his name. Below is a list of locations where I resided from childhood to adulthood.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: arce1988 on February 07, 2013, 12:40:01 AM
Cerritos, CA.
Pico Rivera, CA.
La Palma, CA.
Thousand Oaks, CA.
Cedar City, UT.
Pensacola, FL.
Enid, OK.
Yorba Linda, CA.
Las Vegas, NV.

During the BOR an officer named, Sgt. XXXX, from Los Angeles Port Police testified on behalf of the LAPD. XXXXX stated for the BOR that he arrived at the location of the UOF shortly before I cuffed the suspect. He also stated that he assisted in cuffing the suspect and thatís old the BOR he told me to fix my tie. All of those statements were LIES!!! XXXX, you arrived at the UOF location up to 30 seconds after I had cuffed Mr.XXXX. All you did was help me lift the suspect to his feet as it was difficult for me to do by myself because of his heavy weight. You did not tell me to fix my tie as the BOR members and everyone else in the room know you lied because the photographic evidence from the UOF scene where XXXXís injuries were photographed clearly shows me wearing a class B uniform on that day. A class B uniform is a short sleeved uniform blouse. A short sleeved uniform blouse for the LAPD does not have a tie included. This is not Super Troopers uniform, you jackass. Why did you feel the need to embellish and lie about your involvement in the UOF? Are you ashamed that you could not get hired on by any other department other than port police? Do you have delusions of grandeur? What you did was perjury, exactly what Evans did when she stated she did not kick XXXX.

What they failed to mention in the BOR was XXXXX own use of force history during her career on the LAPD. She has admitted that she has a lengthy use of force record and has been flagged several times by risk management. She has a very well known nickname, Chupacabra, which she was very proud to flaunt around the division. She found it very funny and entertaining to draw blood from suspects and arrestees. At one point she even intentionally ripped the flesh off the arm of a woman we had arrested for battery (sprayed her neighbor with a garden water hose). Knowing the woman had thin elastic skin, she performed and Indian burn to the womanís arm after cuffing her. That woman was in her mid-70ís, a mother and grandmother, and was angry at her tenants who failed to pay rent on time. Something I can completely understand and I am sure many have wanted to do toward tenants who do not pay their rent. XXXX was also demoted from a senior lead officer rank/position for performance issues. During my two months of working patrol with XXXXX, I found her as a woman who was very angry that she had been pulled from patrol for a short time because of a domestic violence report made by Long Beach Police Department because of an incident involving her active LAPD officer boyfriend, XXXXX, and herself. XXXXXX is the same officer investigated for witness tampering. She also was visibly angry on a daily basis that she was going to have to file for bankruptcy because her ex-husband, a former LAPD officer and not XXXX, who had left the department, state, and was nowhere to be found had left her with a tax bill and debt that she was unable to pay because of a lack of financial means. XXXX, you are a POS and you lied right to the BOR panel when XXXX asked you if you kicked XXXXX. You destroyed my life and name because of your actions. Time is up. The time is now to confess to Chief Beck.

I ask that all journalist investigating this story submit request for FOIA with the LAPD to gain access to the BOR transcripts which occurred from 10/08 to 2/09. There, you will see that a video was played for the BOR members of Mr. XXXXX who suffers from Schizophrenia and Dementia stating that he was kicked by a female officer. That video evidence supports my claim that Evans kicked him twice in the upper body and once in the face. I would like all journalist to also request copies of all reports that I had written while employed by LAPD. Whether in the academy, or during my 3 years as a police officer. There are DR#ís attached to each report (investigative report) that I have ever written so they all exist. A FOIA request will most likely be needed to access these at Parker center or at the Personnel/Records. Judge my writin/grammar skills for yourself. The department attempted to paint me as an officer who could not write reports. Even though Sgt. XXXXX a training officer who trained me stated for the BOR panel that there was nothing wrong with my report writing and that I was better than all rookie/probationer officers he has ever trained. Officer XXXX XXXX stated the same but refused to testify as he did not want to ďget involvedĒ with the BORís. Contact Sgt. XXXX ,(now a Captain at Lompoc PD), Sgt. XXXX, and Sgt. XXXXX. All will state that my report writing was impeccable. I will tell you this, I always type my reports because I have messy handwriting/penmanship. I never had a single kickback/redlined report at Southwest division and Sgt. XXX and Sgt. XXXX can testify to that. I never received an UNSATISFACTORY on any day or week. The same can be said within the U.S. Naval Reserves. All commanders will state that my report writing was always clear, concise, and impeccable. Even search my AAR (after action reports),chits, Memorandumís, IIRís (Intelligence Information Reports) which were written in the Navy. All were pristine.

I had worked patrol at LAPDís Harbor Division from 2/06 until 7/06 when I was involuntarily recalled back to active duty (US Navy) for a 12 month mobilization/deployment to Centcom in support of OIF/OEF. I returned back to LAPDís Harbor division on 7/07 and immediately returned to patrol. I worked at Harbor division until 11/07 where I then transferred to Southwest Division. I worked At Southwest division until 6/25/08 when I was relieved of duty.

I have exhausted all available means at obtaining my name back. I have attempted all legal court efforts within appeals at the Superior Courts and California Appellate courts. This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now lead to deadly consequences. The LAPDís actions have cost me my law enforcement career that began on 2/7/05 and ended on 1/2/09. They cost me my Naval career which started on 4/02 and ends on 2/13. I had a TS/SCI clearance(Top Secret Sensitive Compartmentalized Information clearance) up until shortly after my termination with LAPD. This is the highest clearance a service member can attain other than a Yankee White TS/SCI which is only granted for those working with and around the President/Vice President of the United States. I lost my position as a Commanding Officer of a Naval Security Forces reserve unit at NAS Fallon because of the LAPD. Iíve lost a relationship with my mother and sister because of the LAPD. Iíve lost a relationship with close friends because of the LAPD. In essence, Iíve lost everything because the LAPD took my name and new I was INNOCENT!!!  XXX, XXX, XXXX , and XXXXX all new I was innocent but decided to terminate me so they could continue Ofcr. XXXX. I know about the meeting between all of you where XXXX attorney, XXXX, confessed that she kicked XXXX (excessive force). Your day has come.

Iím not an aspiring rapper, Iím not a gang member, Iím not a dope dealer, I donít have multiple babies mommaís. I am an American by choice, I am a son, I am a brother, I am a military service member, I am a man who has lost complete faith in the system, when the system betrayed, slandered, and libeled me. I lived a good life and though not a religious man I always stuck to my own personal code of ethics, ethos and always stuck to my shoreline and true North. I didnít need the US Navy to instill Honor, Courage, and Commitment in me but I thank them for re-enforcing it. Itís in my DNA.

Luckily I donít have to live everyday like most of you. Concerned if the misconduct you were apart of is going to be discovered. Looking over your shoulder, scurrying at every phone call from internal affairs or from the Captains office wondering if that is the day PSB comes after you for the suspects you struck when they were cuffed months/years ago or that $500 you pocketed from the narcotics dealer, or when the other guys on your watch beat a transient nearly to death and you never reported the UOF to the supervisor. No, I donít have that concern, I stood up for what was right but unfortunately have dealt with the reprocussions of doing the right thing and now losing my name and everything I ever stood for. You fuckers knew XXXXX was guilty of kicking (excessive force) XXXX and you did nothing but get rid of what you saw as the problem, the whistleblower. XXXX himself stated on video tape ( provided for the BOR and in transcripts) he was kicked and even his father stated that his son said he was kicked by Evans when he was released from custody. The video was played for the entire BOR to hear. Youíre going to see what a whistleblower can do when you take everything from him especially his NAME!!!

Look what you did to Sgt. XXXXX (now lieutenant) when he exposed the truth of your lying, racism, and PSB cover-ups to frame and convict an innocent man. You can not police yourselves and the consent decree was unsuccessful. Sgt. Gavin, I met you on the range several times as a recruit and as an officer. Youíre a good man and I saw it in your eyes an actions.

Self Preservation is no longer important to me. I do not fear death as I died long ago on 1/2/09. I was told by my mother that sometimes bad things happen to good people. I refuse to accept that.

From 2/05 to 1/09 I saw some of the most vile things humans can inflict on others as a police officer in Los Angeles. Unfortunately, it wasnít in the streets of LA. It was in the confounds of LAPD police stations and shops (cruisers). The enemy combatants in LA are not the citizens and suspects, itís the police officers.

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. How ironic that you utilize a fixed glass structure as your command HQ. You use as a luminous building to symbolize that you are transparent, have nothing to hide, or suppress when in essence, concealing, omitting, and obscuring is your forte.

Chief Beck, this is when you need to have that come to Jesus talk with Sgt. XXXXXX and everyone else who was involved in the conspiracy to have me terminated for doing the right thing. you also need to speak with her attorney, Rico, and his conversation with the BOR members and her confession of guilt in kicking Mr. XXXX. Iíll be waiting for a PUBLIC response at a press conference. When the truth comes out, the killing stops.

Why didnít you charge me with filing a false police report when I came forward stating that Evans kicked Mr. XXXXX? You file criminal charges against every other officer who is accused and terminated for filing a false police report. You didnít because you knew I was innocent and a criminal court would find me innocent and expose your department for suppressing the truth and retaliation, thatís why.

The attacks will stop when the department states the truth about my innocence, PUBLICLY!!!


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: arce1988 on February 07, 2013, 12:40:38 AM
I will not accept any type of currency/goods in exchange for the attacks to stop, nor do i want it. I want my name back, period. There is no negotiation. I am not the state department who states they do not negotiate with terrorist, because anybody with a Secret or TS/SCI has seen IIRís on SIPR and knows that the US state department always negotiates by using CF countries or independent sovereign/neutral country to mediate and compromising.

This department has not changed from the Daryl Gates and Mark Fuhrman days. Those officers are still employed and have all promoted to Command staff and supervisory positions. I will correct this error. Are you aware that an officer (a rookie/probationer at the time) seen on the Rodney King videotape striking Mr. King multiple times with a baton on 3/3/91 is still employed by the LAPD and is now a Captain on the police department? Captain XXXXXX is now the commanding officer of a LAPD police station (West LA division). As a commanding officer, he is now responsible for over 200 officers. Do you trust him to enforce department policy and investigate use of force investigations on arrestees by his officers? Are you aware Evans has since promoted to Sergeant after kicking Mr. XXXX in the face. Oh, you Violated a citizens civil rights? We will promote you. Same as LAPD did with the officers from Metro involved in the May Day melee at MacArthur Park. They promoted them to Sergeant (a supervisor role).

No one is saying you canít be prejudiced or a bigot. We are all human and hold prejudices. If you state that you donít have prejudices, your lying! But, when you act on it and victimize innocent citizens and fellow innocen officers, than that is a concern.

For you officers who do the job in the name of JUSTICE, those of you who lost honest officers to this event, look at the name of those on the BOR and the investigating officers from PSB and Evans and ask them, how come you couldnít tell the truth? Why did you terminate an honest officer and cover for a dishonest officer who victimized a mentally ill citizen.

Sometimes humans feel a need to prove they are the dominant race of a species and they inadvertently take kindness for weakness from another individual. You chose wrong.

Terminating officers because they expose a culture of lying, racism (from the academy), and excessive use of force will immediately change. PSB can not police their own and that has been proven. The blue line will forever be severed and a cultural change will be implanted. You have awoken a sleeping giant.

I am here to change and make policy. The culture of LAPD versus the community and honest/good officers needs to and will change. I am here to correct and calibrate your morale compasses to true north.

Those Caucasian officers who join South Bureau divisions (77th,SW,SE, an Harbor) with the sole intent to victimize minorities who are uneducated, and unaware of criminal law, civil law, and civil rights. You prefer the South bureau because a use of force/deadly force is likely and the individual you use UOF on will likely not report it. You are a high value target.

Those Black officers in supervisory ranks and pay grades who stay in south bureau (even though you live in the valley or OC) for the sole intent of getting retribution toward subordinate caucasians officers for the pain and hostile work environment their elders inflicted on you as probationers (P-1′s) and novice P-2ís. You are a high value target. You perpetuated the cycle of racism in the department as well. You breed a new generation of bigoted caucasian officer when you belittle them and treat them unfairly.

Those Hispanic officers who victimize their own ethnicity because they are new immigrants to this country and are unaware of their civil rights. You call them wetbacks to their face and demean them in front of fellow officers of different ethnicities so that you will receive some sort of acceptance from your colleagues. Iím not impressed. Most likely, your parents or grandparents were immigrants at one time, but you have forgotten that. You are a high value target.

Those lesbian officers in supervising positions who go to work, day in day out, with the sole intent of attempting to prove your misandrist authority (not feminism) to degrade male officers. You are a high value target.

Those Asian officers who stand by and observe everything I previously mentioned other officers participate in on a daily basis but you say nothing, stand for nothing and protect nothing. Why? Because of your usual saying, Ē IÖÖdonít like conflictĒ. You are a high value target as well.

Those of you who ďgo along to get alongĒ have no backbone and destroy the foundation of courage. You are the enablers of those who are guilty of misconduct. You are just as guilty as those who break the code of ethics and oath you swore.

Citizens/non-combatants, do not render medical aid to downed officers/enemy combatants. They would not do the same for you. They will let you bleed out just so they can brag to other officers that they had a 187 caper the other day and canít wait to accrue the overtime in future court subpoenas. As they always say, ďthatís the paramedics jobÖnot mineĒ. Let the balance of loss of life take place. Sometimes a reset needs to occur.

It is endless the amount of times per week officers arrest an individual, label him a suspect-arrestee-defendant and then before arraignment or trial realize that he is innocent based on evidence. You know what they say when they realize an innocent man just had his life turned upside down?. ďI guess he should have stayed at home that day he was discovered walking down the street and matching the suspects description. Oh well, he appeared to be a dirtbag anywaysĒ. Meanwhile the falsely accused is left to pick up his life, get a new, family, friends, and sense of self worth.

Donít honor these fallen officers/dirtbags. When your family members die, they just see you as extra overtime at a crime scene and at a perimeter. Why would you value their lives when they clearly donít value yours or your family members lives? Iíve heard many officers who state they see dead victims as ATVís, Waverunners, RVís and new clothes for their kids. Why would you shed a tear for them when they in return crack a smile for your loss because of the impending extra money they will receive in their next paycheck for sitting at your loved ones crime scene of 6 hours because of the overtime they will accrue. They take photos of your loved ones recently deceased bodies with their cellphones and play a game of who has the most graphic dead body of the night with officers from other divisions. This isnít just the 20 something year old officers, this is the 50 year old officers with significant time on the job as well who participate.

You allow an officer, XXXXXX, to attempt to hack into my credit union account and still remain on the job even when Det. XXXXX shows the evidence that the IP address (provided by LAPFCU) that attempted to hack into my account and change my username and password leads directly to her residence. You even allow this visibly disgusting looking officer to stay on the job when she perjures (lies) in court (Clark County Family Court) to the judgeís face and denies hacking into my personal credit union online account when I attempted to get my restraint order extended. Det. XXXX provided the evidence and you still do nothing.

How do you know when a police officer is lying??? When he begins his sentence with, ďbased on my experience and trainingĒ.

No one grows up and wants to be a cop killer. It was against everything Iíve ever was. As a young police explorer I found my calling in life. But, As a young police officer I found that the violent suspects on the street are not the only people you have to watch. It is the officer who was hired on to the department (pre-2000) before polygraphs were standard for all new hires and a substantial vetting in a backround investigation.

To those children of the officers who are eradicated, your parent was not the individual you thought they were. As you get older,you will see the evidence that your parent was a tyrant who loss their ethos and instead followed the path of moral corruptness. They conspired to hide and suppress the truth of misconduct on others behalfís. Your parent will have a name and plaque on the fallen officers memorial in D.C. But, In all honesty, your parents name will be a reminder to other officers to maintain the oath they swore and to stay along the shoreline that has guided them from childhood to that of a local, state, or federal law enforcement officer.

Your lack of ethics and conspiring to wrong a just individual are over.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: arce1988 on February 07, 2013, 12:42:26 AM

Suppressing the truth will leave to deadly consequences for you and your family. There will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat, and sleep. I will utilize ISR at your home, workplace, and all locations in between. I will utilize OSINT to discover your residences, spouses workplaces, and childrenís schools. IMINT to coordinate and plan attacks on your fixed locations. Its amazing whats on NIPR. HUMINT will be utilized to collect personal schedules of targets. I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, Iím terminating yours. Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead.

Never allow a LAPPL union attorney to be a retired LAPD Captain,(XXX). He doesnít work for you, your interest, or your name. He works for the department, period. His job is to protect the department from civil lawsuits being filed and their best interest which is the almighty dollar. His loyalty is to the department, not his client. Even when he knowingly knows your innocent and the BOR also knows your innocent after Christopher Gettler stated on videotape that he was kicked and Evans attorney confessed to the BOR off the record that she kicked Gettler.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants-TJ. This quote is not directed toward the US government which I fully support 100%. This is toward the LAPD who can not monitor itself. The consent decree should not have been lifted, ever.

I know your TTPís, (techniques, tactics, and procedures). Any threat assessments you generate will be useless. This is simple, I know your TTPís and PPRís. I will mitigate any of your attempts at preservation. ORM is my friend. I will mitigate all risks, threats and hazards. I assure you that Incident Command Posts will be target rich environments. KMA-367 license plate frames are great target indicators and make target selection even easier.

I will conduct DA operations to destroy, exploit and seize designated targets. If unsuccessful or unable to meet objectives in these initial small-scale offensive actions, I will reassess my BDA and re-attack until objectives are met. I have nothing to lose. My personal casualty means nothing. Just alike AAFís, ACMís, and AIFís, you can not prevail against an enemy combatant who has no fear of death. An enemy who embraces death is a lose, lose situation for their enemy combatants.

Hopefully you analyst have done your homework. You are aware that I have always been the top shot, highest score, an expert in rifle qualifications in every unit Iíve been in. I will utilize every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordnance, and survival training Iíve been given.

Do you know why we are unsuccessful in asymmetrical and guerrilla warfare in CENTCOM theatre of operations? Iíll tell you. Itís not the inefficiency of our combatant commanders, planning, readiness or training of troops. Much like the Vietnam war, ACM, AAF, foreign fighters, Jihadist, and JAM have nothing to lose. They embrace death as it is a way of life. I simply donít fear it. I am the walking exigent circumstance you created.

The Violence of action will be HIGH. I am the reason TAC alert was established. I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty. ISR is my strength and your weakness. You will now live the life of the prey. Your RDís and homes away from work will be my AO and battle space. I will utilize every tool within INT collections that I learned from NMITC in Dam Neck. You have misjudged a sleeping giant. There is no conventional threat assessment for me. JAM, New Baíath party, 1920 rev BGE, ACM, AAF, AQAP, AQIM and AQIZ have nothing on me. Do not deploy airships or gunships. SA-7 Manpads will be waiting. As you know I also own Barrett .50′s so your APC are defunct and futile.

You better have all your officers radio/phone muster (code 1) on or off duty every hour, on the hour.
Do not attempt to shadow or conduct any type of ISR on me. I have the inventory listing of all UC vehicles at Piper Tech and the home addresses of any INT analyst at JRIC and detachment locations. My POA is always POI and always true. This will be a war of attrition and a Pyrrhic and Camdean Victory for myself. You may have the resources and manpower but you are reactive and predictable in your op plans and TTPís. I have the strength and benefits of being unpredictable, unconventional, and unforgiving. Do not waste your time with briefs and tabletops.

(KTLA has removed the names of a number of officers out of respect for their privacy.)



Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: arce1988 on February 07, 2013, 12:44:19 AM
  John Proctor: Because it is my name! Because I cannot have another in my life! Because I lie, and sign myself to lies! Because I am not worth the dust, on the feet of them that hang! How may I live without my name? I have given you my soul! Leave me my name!


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Jovo on February 07, 2013, 12:48:22 AM
i can't be assed reading all of this... can you give cliff notes, arce ?


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Wiggs on February 07, 2013, 12:51:51 AM
Holy shit! And I actually read all of it!


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Kwon_2 on February 07, 2013, 01:09:40 AM
Cliff notes Arce / Wiggs?


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Wiggs on February 07, 2013, 01:11:29 AM
Cliff notes Arce / Wiggs?

He's a former LAPD officer that was let go (conspiracy) and he just aired all their dirty laundry. Shit you wouldn't want the public to know. No one was spared.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: OTHstrong on February 07, 2013, 01:12:51 AM
so
He's a former LAPD officer that was let go (conspiracy) and he just aired all their dirty laundry. Shit you wouldn't want the public to know. No one was spared.
ya but what was the comment about him murdering someone ???


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Wiggs on February 07, 2013, 01:17:10 AM
soya but what was the comment about him murdering someone ???

I guess he knows after posting this, he'd be followed or set up with something. He's warning them not to do anything cause he'll take em out.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on February 07, 2013, 01:24:51 AM
Wtf can someone fill in? have the dude done something after he got fired?


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 01:28:13 AM
I feel sorry for those who are basically good but terribly naive, who these days isn't aware that modern western police forces are essentially the most highly organised criminals on the planet.  Did they think the Police were some force for Goodness and righteousness.  Oh Brother, the meltdown when that guy found out the truth!  If he wanted to help people he should have worked at a homeless shelter, not become a Policeman.  I remember when one of our notorious corrupt police detectives Roger Rogerson, said "That to be a good cop, you have to be a good criminal"


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: JBGRAY on February 07, 2013, 01:31:34 AM
It was an awesome read....some of it may have been fabricated to an extent, but somehow I do not believe so.......stereotypes become reinforced once again based on real life situations. 

The disgruntled ex-officer did seem to descend into a bit of madness, however, and overtly threaten the entire department's safety and well-being......I don't think that is going to help this man's case by any means.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: JBGRAY on February 07, 2013, 01:34:48 AM
Now wait a second...wait a SECOND.  Is this the same guy here in the following story?  If so, then what the fuck?  A cool 2 million doesn't soothe all burns?



Former LAPD sergeant awarded nearly $3M in retaliation lawsuit

By City News Service
Posted:   11/29/2012 12:41:55 PM PST
Updated:   11/29/2012 12:42:43 PM PST

LOS ANGELES (CNS) - A former Los Angeles police sergeant who said he was forced to quit his job after being retaliated against for corroborating a colleague's accusations of racism by a supervisor was today awarded nearly $2.9 million.

A Los Angeles Superior Court jury deliberated for part of Wednesday afternoon and this morning before finding in favor of former Newton Division Sgt. Pedro Torres in his constructive termination and retaliation lawsuit against the city.

Deputy City Attorney Daniel Aguilera declined to comment on the verdict.

Torres said he had to leave his job after 15 years in 2011 because the stress from the retaliation caused panic attacks and other health problems so severe he could no longer continue with the department.

"This was the end of his career, a career, I might add, that he loved," his attorney, Gregory W. Smith, told jurors Wednesday during final arguments.

Torres' other lawyer, Boros Koron, said today his client had to wait more than three years for his case to get to trial because it went before several different judges. One of the bench officers, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Frederick Shaller, voluntarily removed himself because his son is an attorney for the city of Los Angeles.

Judge James Dunn ultimately presided over the trial, and Torres "finally got his day in court," Koron said.

Torres, a divorced father of two daughters, is prevented under the terms of his disability

retirement from working in law enforcement again or from carrying a firearm, Koron said.
In 2008, Torres gave deposition and trial testimony supporting LAPD Officer Robert Hill's allegations against Hill's supervisor, Newton Division Sgt. Gilbert Curtis, Smith said.

Hill, who is white, claimed he was transferred to another station and given an inferior work assignment because he told supervisors in 2004 that Curtis made racist statements about blacks and Latinos. A Los Angeles Superior Court jury awarded Hill $3.12 million.

Smith maintained that in retaliation, LAPD management denied Torres a promotion to detective and suspended him for five days for allegedly using excessive force to save a kidnapping victim.

In the abduction incident, Torres shot out the tires of a van in which a woman was being held against her will by two men, Smith said. After initially touting Torres' actions as heroic in a news release describing the incident, the LAPD later punished him with the suspension, saying he violated department policy against firing a weapon at a moving vehicle, Smith said.

Torres took the action to save the woman's life, Smith said.

Deputy City Attorney Richard Loomis, who along with Aguilera handled the city's defense during trial, downplayed the discipline, saying the number of days Torres was suspended was minimal. He also said officers cannot justify actions simply by stating that the results were good.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Wiggs on February 07, 2013, 01:39:49 AM
Different guy.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 01:44:01 AM
Anyway, he has murdered two people for revenge, if he can complete his mission, this will make for a great movie!


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 01:48:24 AM
Wtf can someone fill in? have the dude done something after he got fired?
Yeah, he killed the daughter and her partner of one of the police officers who fucked him over, he still has a couple more corrupt police officers to fuck over yet.  things could get Interesting!


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on February 07, 2013, 02:08:45 AM
Yeah, he killed the daughter and her partner of one of the police officers who fucked him over, he still has a couple more corrupt police officers to fuck over yet.  things could get Interesting!
shit


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 02:18:50 AM
Nothing is over! Nothing! You just don't turn it off!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71vqGyWTs3c


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: BigCyp on February 07, 2013, 03:14:51 AM
Woah, I definately underestimated garebear.

Hold on.....what's that red dot on my windo?.......oh SHIT GOTTA GO GUYS


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Tito24 on February 07, 2013, 03:17:22 AM
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Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: WOOO on February 07, 2013, 03:28:20 AM
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That's not John Tesh


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 05:38:42 AM
 :o


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Butterbean on February 07, 2013, 07:59:39 AM
, Itís not JUST US, itís JUSTICE!!!

Johnny Falcon approved.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 07, 2013, 08:05:03 AM
:o

3 guys, 3 girls, you put that puzzle together now...


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Archer77 on February 07, 2013, 08:05:12 AM
Yeah, he killed the daughter and her partner of one of the police officers who fucked him over, he still has a couple more corrupt police officers to fuck over yet.  things could get Interesting!

Great way to prove a point.  Kill an innocent girl who has nothing to do with your personal beef.  Put a bullet in his head and move on.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 07, 2013, 08:10:23 AM
This guy is a piece of shit.  He belonged in the police force.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Tito24 on February 07, 2013, 08:14:52 AM
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Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Archer77 on February 07, 2013, 08:21:47 AM
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Another piece of shit.  Titus seems like a stand up guy though.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 08:25:22 AM
Great way to prove a point.  Kill an innocent girl who has nothing to do with your personal beef.  Put a bullet in his head and move on.
She has nothing to do with it, but she is the daughter of a corrupt police officer!  Therefore a target for those who seek revenge.  Life isn't pretty, and if you want to hurt someone, target their family members, when you fuck people over, especially people who have the skills and power to hurt you, you endanger everyone who loves and supports you.   Somebody has to stand up against rampant corruption, it has spread like a disease, I blame the corrupt cop for his daughters slaying, he should have known better and made better, less corrupt choices.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Archer77 on February 07, 2013, 08:27:15 AM
She has nothing to do with it, but she is the daughter of a corrupt police officer!  Therefore a target for those who seek revenge.  Life isn't pretty, and if you want to hurt someone, target their family members, when you fuck people over, especially people who have the skills and power to hurt you, you endanger everyone who loves and supports you.   Somebody has to stand up against rampant corruption, it has spread like a disease, I blame the corrupt cop for his daughters slaying, he should have known better and made better, less corrupt choices.

So you're against guns but you're all for the killing of innocents.  I don't get it.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 07, 2013, 08:27:27 AM
She has nothing to do with it, but she is the daughter of a corrupt police officer!  Therefore a target for those who seek revenge.  Life isn't pretty, and if you want to hurt someone, target their family members

Yes he was probably taught these Mafia practices by the government.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: viking1 on February 07, 2013, 08:29:18 AM
Cliff note version: he's a 5150 k10 who needs to be stopped


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 08:38:08 AM
So you're against guns but you're all for the killing of innocents.  I don't get it.
No!, I'm for ending corruption.  To make an omelette, you have to crack a few eggs.  Like I said, The father of the murdered woman endangered and was ultimately responsible for the killing of his innocent daughter, he fucked with someone he shouldn't have, and now his daughter had paid the price.  Corruption itself is all about harming innocence, that is why it is so despised, corrupt people are responsible for many innocent people being jailed, killed or fucked over in some way.  If this action has any affect on future corruption, the loss of the corrupt officers daughters life may well save many other innocent lives from the hands of corrupt officers.

If the father of the slain daughter had fucked with a Mexican Drug Cartel, and his daughter ended up headless in a ditch, you would blame the father for endangering his family, as everyone knows what the Cartels are like.  Not much different with police Forces, they are essentially Organised Criminals, very professional and highly skilled in fucking with people and their lives.  If you are going to deliberately fuck with a police officer, even if you are a police officer yourself, you are risking yours and your families life.  Quite often it's the other way around, whistle blowers routinely end up dead in a ditch somewhere, I know herein Melbourne many years ago,a Police whistle-blower was murdered while sitting on the toilet at the Police Station, they just covered it up and blamed accidental gun discharge.  It was swept under the carpet but was mentioned during a Royal Commission, those in the know knew what had happened.

Many years ago, a friend of mine fucked the wife of a police man, they raided his house and loaded him up with a big bag of speed.  He spent a year in Jail.  These were the non corrupt good police!


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 07, 2013, 08:39:40 AM
How do you know he was corrupt?


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 08:44:42 AM
How do you know he was corrupt?
He worked for the LAPD. 


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: arce1988 on February 07, 2013, 03:21:52 PM
  Dorner


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: arce1988 on February 07, 2013, 03:23:28 PM
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Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: arce1988 on February 07, 2013, 05:31:50 PM
  He is going Jason Bourne on the Police.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: littledumbells on February 07, 2013, 05:59:10 PM
He's a former LAPD officer that was let go (conspiracy) and he just aired all their dirty laundry. Shit you wouldn't want the public to know. No one was spared.

   That or he is a crazy fuck that slipped through whatever psych vetting process the police use.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: arce1988 on February 07, 2013, 06:02:13 PM
No!, I'm for ending corruption.  To make an omelette, you have to crack a few eggs.  Like I said, The father of the murdered woman endangered and was ultimately responsible for the killing of his innocent daughter, he fucked with someone he shouldn't have, and now his daughter had paid the price.  Corruption itself is all about harming innocence, that is why it is so despised, corrupt people are responsible for many innocent people being jailed, killed or fucked over in some way.  If this action has any affect on future corruption, the loss of the corrupt officers daughters life may well save many other innocent lives from the hands of corrupt officers.

If the father of the slain daughter had fucked with a Mexican Drug Cartel, and his daughter ended up headless in a ditch, you would blame the father for endangering his family, as everyone knows what the Cartels are like.  Not much different with police Forces, they are essentially Organised Criminals, very professional and highly skilled in fucking with people and their lives.  If you are going to deliberately fuck with a police officer, even if you are a police officer yourself, you are risking yours and your families life.  Quite often it's the other way around, whistle blowers routinely end up dead in a ditch somewhere, I know herein Melbourne many years ago,a Police whistle-blower was murdered while sitting on the toilet at the Police Station, they just covered it up and blamed accidental gun discharge.  It was swept under the carpet but was mentioned during a Royal Commission, those in the know knew what had happened.

Many years ago, a friend of mine fucked the wife of a police man, they raided his house and loaded him up with a big bag of speed.  He spent a year in Jail.  These were the non corrupt good police!


^

  Great post!


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: polychronopolous on February 07, 2013, 06:10:16 PM
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Schmoes and ho's

It just don't get any better than that.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: OTHstrong on February 08, 2013, 07:16:53 AM
No!, I'm for ending corruption.  To make an omelette, you have to crack a few eggs.  Like I said, The father of the murdered woman endangered and was ultimately responsible for the killing of his innocent daughter, he fucked with someone he shouldn't have, and now his daughter had paid the price.  Corruption itself is all about harming innocence, that is why it is so despised, corrupt people are responsible for many innocent people being jailed, killed or fucked over in some way.  If this action has any affect on future corruption, the loss of the corrupt officers daughters life may well save many other innocent lives from the hands of corrupt officers.

If the father of the slain daughter had fucked with a Mexican Drug Cartel, and his daughter ended up headless in a ditch, you would blame the father for endangering his family, as everyone knows what the Cartels are like.  Not much different with police Forces, they are essentially Organised Criminals, very professional and highly skilled in fucking with people and their lives.  If you are going to deliberately fuck with a police officer, even if you are a police officer yourself, you are risking yours and your families life.  Quite often it's the other way around, whistle blowers routinely end up dead in a ditch somewhere, I know herein Melbourne many years ago,a Police whistle-blower was murdered while sitting on the toilet at the Police Station, they just covered it up and blamed accidental gun discharge.  It was swept under the carpet but was mentioned during a Royal Commission, those in the know knew what had happened.

Many years ago, a friend of mine fucked the wife of a police man, they raided his house and loaded him up with a big bag of speed.  He spent a year in Jail.  These were the non corrupt good police!
You are a complete lunatic psycho, who very well could end up being a serial killer, you fit the description, you belong in the fucken nut house.

WTF crack an egg to make an omelette. So an innocent girl is the sacrificial lamb for corruption to stop, wtf is wrong with you?

Sorry but if this innocent girl has to die to end corruption then fuck ending corruption, you can not fuck with life of an innocent person who has no involvement, fucken lunatic.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: hrspwr1 on February 08, 2013, 07:45:27 AM
this guy has wants to make his targets hurt, no better way to do that than destroy what they love most in life.
 if this guy follows sun tzu he will be out there for a long time.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 08, 2013, 07:48:21 AM


Many years ago, a friend of mine fucked the wife of a police man, they raided his house and loaded him up with a big bag of speed.  He spent a year in Jail.  These were the non corrupt good police!


Yeah, but how many times have you seen a pig car parked at some guys house when he is at work.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: OTHstrong on February 08, 2013, 07:48:31 AM
this guy has wants to make his targets hurt, no better way to do that than destroy what they love most in life.
 if this guy follows sun tzu he will be out there for a long time.
Yes his objective is clear but his methods are demonic and satanic in nature. I have memorized the Sun Tzu BTW  ;)


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 08, 2013, 07:49:36 AM

Sorry but if this innocent girl has to die to end corruption then fuck ending corruption, you can not fuck with life of an innocent person who has no involvement, fucken lunatic.

I respect your opinion - but you do realise this is what the US and allies are doing in the middle east every day, and also Obama is doing with his drones.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: OTHstrong on February 08, 2013, 07:58:12 AM
I respect your opinion - but you do realise this is what the US and allies are doing in the middle east every day, and also Obama is doing with his drones.
I do agree but these are not personal decisions, they are political agendas. When at war innocent people die but the difference is the target is not intentionally the innocent, big difference.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: RancherRanger on February 08, 2013, 09:41:56 AM
He's a former LAPD officer that was let go (conspiracy) and he just aired all their dirty laundry. Shit you wouldn't want the public to know. No one was spared.
He may be 100% correct, but when you murder others, your credibility is questioned and the general public will not believe a word you say.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 08, 2013, 09:44:22 AM
He may be 100% correct, but when you murder others, your credibility is questioned and the general public will not believe a word you say.

His credibility is already in question independent of that because there are some clearly nutball type comments in his manifesto - things that don't add up.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: stuntmovie on February 08, 2013, 11:24:37 AM
I doubt that he'll be taken alive, but the somewhat 'ideal' situation for this guy is to surrender peacefully and tell his story from inside a prison cell.

I think that the whole world would be interested to hear his side of the tale.

And changers could possibly take place.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: cswol on February 08, 2013, 11:32:10 AM
i applaud this man, he has been a victim of the systematic criminal entity called the LAPD, as have I, a dirty cop placed 6 false charges on me resulting in a 3 strike life in prison case, every cop in the world and especially in the LAPD can and will rot in hell when their day comes......... I hope he kills 100 or more cops.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 11:43:25 AM
a dirty cop placed 6 false charges on me resulting in a 3 strike life in prison case,
WTF? Do tell! Details Please, it might be good to do a getbig debrief!


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: BILL ANVIL on February 08, 2013, 11:47:56 AM
I feel sorry for those who are basically good but terribly naive, who these days isn't aware that modern western police forces are essentially the most highly organised criminals on the planet.  Did they think the Police were some force for Goodness and righteousness.  Oh Brother, the meltdown when that guy found out the truth!  If he wanted to help people he should have worked at a homeless shelter, not become a Policeman.  I remember when one of our notorious corrupt police detectives Roger Rogerson, said "That to be a good cop, you have to be a good criminal"

this is a good post even coming from you

this guy is a hero ftw


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 11:48:42 AM
You are a complete lunatic psycho, who very well could end up being a serial killer, you fit the description, you belong in the fucken nut house.

WTF crack an egg to make an omelette. So an innocent girl is the sacrificial lamb for corruption to stop, wtf is wrong with you?

Sorry but if this innocent girl has to die to end corruption then fuck ending corruption, you can not fuck with life of an innocent person who has no involvement, fucken lunatic.
You are a complete lunatic psycho, who very well could end up being a serial killer, you prefer to save one innocent life than to save potentially thousands that will continue to be taken due to corruption.  You Sir are a psychopath, and I hope you burn in hell. But seriously, you are a deeply troubled and confused individual, you argue that you can not fuck with life of an innocent person who has no involvement, WTF do you think corruption is and does, this is the very nature of corruption you idiot, harming Innocent people, dickhead!  People like you are incapable of seeing the bigger picture, that's why their is so much shit in the world, you would rather DO NOTHING and allow Shit to spiral out of control until it's your turn to be fucked over by an oppressive out of control power system.  If I do end up being a serial killer,I'm coming after dickheads like you first!


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 11:55:25 AM
I do agree but these are not personal decisions, they are political agendas. When at war innocent people die but the difference is the target is not intentionally the innocent, big difference.
You are a naive fucktard aren't  you.   The innocent may be intentionally targeted, they are considered with complete indifference, if taking out a hostile target means taking innocent lives, then they take innocent life.   The Innocent are intentionally a target alongside the enemy. They call this collateral damage.  If firing on an enemy target knowing that innocent lives will be taken, what is unintentional about that?  Their is no difference between an innocent life being taken by a corrupt war machine than their is by a guy avenging a loss and fighting corrupt police.  I would argue this guy's cause is far more meaningful to the average individual than some BS war based on lies and corruption.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: OTHstrong on February 08, 2013, 01:57:23 PM
You are a complete lunatic psycho, who very well could end up being a serial killer, you prefer to save one innocent life than to save potentially thousands that will continue to be taken due to corruption.  You Sir are a psychopath, and I hope you burn in hell. But seriously, you are a deeply troubled and confused individual, you argue that you can not fuck with life of an innocent person who has no involvement, WTF do you think corruption is and does, this is the very nature of corruption you idiot, harming Innocent people, dickhead!  People like you are incapable of seeing the bigger picture, that's why their is so much shit in the world, you would rather DO NOTHING and allow Shit to spiral out of control until it's your turn to be fucked over by an oppressive out of control power system.  If I do end up being a serial killer,I'm coming after dickheads like you first!
Listen fuck face the innocent person can not be targeted as a means to stop corruption, not intentionally you fucken retard fundamentalist. Only idiots like you who feel this is appropriate, the end result does not matter as much as a moral decision if it did then why would we not just round up all the criminal and kill them all, solves the crime problem right? you fucken idiot.

What you are suggesting is exactly the same mentality as an Islamic extremist, EXACTLY THE SAME, same as a suicide bomber with a cause. Lunatic, fuck someone lock this guy up in the nut house and throw away the key.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Archer77 on February 08, 2013, 02:00:40 PM
Listen fuck face the innocent person can not be targeted as a means to stop corruption, not intentionally you fucken retard fundamentalist. Only idiots like you who feel this is appropriate, the end result does not matter as much as a moral decision if it did then why would we not just round up all the criminal and kill them all, solves the crime problem right? you fucken idiot.

What you are suggesting is exactly the same mentality as an Islamic extremist, EXACTLY THE SAME, same as a suicide bomber with a cause. Lunatic, fuck someone lock this guy up in the nut house and throw away the key.

I have to say this is spot on.  rooting for this psychopath in the name of justice is sickening. No different than the mcveighs and Muslim fanatics of the world.  The ends don't always justify the means.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 02:02:50 PM
Listen fuck face the innocent person can not be targeted as a means to stop corruption, not intentionally you fucken retard fundamentalist. Only idiots like you who feel this is appropriate, the end result does not matter as much as a moral decision if it did then why would we not just round up all the criminal and kill them all, solves the crime problem right? you fucken idiot.

What you are suggesting is exactly the same mentality as an Islamic extremist, EXACTLY THE SAME, same as a suicide bomber with a cause. Lunatic, fuck someone lock this guy up in the nut house and throw away the key.
Your such a bullshit hypocrite,  So far Police have shot at three innocent civilians and seriously injured one of them in pursuit of some person they are concerned shoots at innocent citizens.  Do you not see your logic failure here, you have to weigh up who is the greater evil, and who kills more innocents.  And it's not some lone gunmen with a vendetta.  And coming from an American, who is a citizen of the greatest terrorist nation on the planet, one responsible for fundamentalist terrorist actions around the globe and who has for decades been killing millions of innocent civilians in the name of an EVIL agenda, I find your moral outrage sickening and everything that is wrong with the world. 

What I am suggesting is to fight the fundamentalist extremist with the same tactics they use against others,  Corruption, by it's very nature, targets the Innocent.  It is responsible for pain, suffering and the death of Innocents.  If corrupt individuals or groups find it acceptable to abuse Innocents in such a way, then those who oppose them must also be strong enough to use the same tactic when fighting against them.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: stuntmovie on February 08, 2013, 02:06:24 PM
WELL SAID, One Time Hard!

I applaud you!


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: OTHstrong on February 08, 2013, 02:11:32 PM
Your such a bullshit hypocrite,  So far Police have shot at three innocent civilians and seriously injured one of them in pursuit of some person they are concerned shoots at innocent citizens.  Do you not see your logic failure here, you have to weigh up who is the greater evil, and who kills more innocents.  And it's not some lone gunmen with a vendetta.  And coming from an American, who is a citizen of the greatest terrorist nation on the planet, one responsible for fundamentalist terrorist actions around the globe and who has for decades been killing millions of innocent civilians in the name of an EVIL agenda, I find your moral outrage sickening and everything that is wrong with the world.
They were not intentionally shooting innocent people you fucken a dumbass. INTENTIONS and MOTIVES are everything you idiot, clearly you know nothing about this or are to stupid to see how it works. Two people kill someone, 1 has every intention and gets 25 years and the other has no intention and gets off on probation, see the difference you retard


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: OTHstrong on February 08, 2013, 02:16:01 PM
I have to say this is spot on.  rooting for this psychopath in the name of justice is sickening. No different than the mcveighs and Muslim fanatics of the world.  The ends don't always justify the means.

WELL SAID, One Time Hard!

I applaud you!
Clearly ekul is missing some screws here, his mentality is stone age, primitive and savage. What a fucken freak. Yet he cries like a little bitch when he got attacked by a dog, you fucken loser ekul, you only got bit and cried everyday over that and still cry everyday over that, not even a hair of a fraction of what the poor innocent girl got.

Oh it hurts I got bit by a dog, you fucken weak little bitch


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 02:21:53 PM
They were not intentionally shooting innocent people you fucken a dumbass. INTENTIONS and MOTIVES are everything you idiot, clearly you know nothing about this or are to stupid to see how it works. Two people kill someone, 1 has every intention and gets 25 years and the other has no intention and gets off on probation, see the difference you retard
So Police shooting innocents in the pursuit of who they believe are the bad guys is OK?  But it is NOT OK for someone who is standing up to who they believe are the bad guys?  I get it now, Thanks officer!


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 02:26:18 PM
Clearly ekul is missing some screws here, his mentality is stone age, primitive and savage. What a fucken freak. Yet he cries like a little bitch when he got attacked by a dog, you fucken loser ekul, you only got bit and cried everyday over that and still cry everyday over that, not even a hair of a fraction of what the poor innocent girl got.

Oh it hurts I got bit by a dog, you fucken weak little bitch
I long ago learned that the ownage is complete, when my opponent mentions dog attack or pitbulls.  And to Archer who claims that rooting for the psychopath in the name of justice is sickening.  I agree 100%, why do you think I would root for a psychopathic corrupt and evil justice system.

The problem you guys have, is failure to see who the real bad guys are, either because you are one of them, or quite possibly you don't have a piercing and resourceful enough intellect to get to the heart of matters.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: OTHstrong on February 08, 2013, 02:30:01 PM
So Police shooting innocents in the pursuit of who they believe are the bad guys is OK?  But it is NOT OK for someone who is standing up to who they believe are the bad guys?  I get it now, Thanks officer!
Are you that brainless?The guy did not stand up to those he believed are the bad guys, he killed an innocent girl who he clearly knows was not the bad guys. Why don`t you have the balls to say it how it is?


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: OTHstrong on February 08, 2013, 02:32:14 PM
I long ago learned that the ownage is complete, when my opponent mentions dog attack or pitbulls.  And to Archer who claims that rooting for the psychopath in the name of justice is sickening.  I agree 100%, why do you think I would root for a psychopathic corrupt and evil justice system.

The problem you guys have, is failure to see who the real bad guys are, either because you are one of them, or quite possibly you don't have a piercing and resourceful enough intellect to get to the heart of matters.
It does not take a rocket scientist to see this guy is a bad guy, killing an innocent person intentionally is as bad as they come.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: arce1988 on February 08, 2013, 02:33:40 PM
Consequences


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 02:35:50 PM
Are you that brainless?The guy did not stand up to those he believed are the bad guys, he killed an innocent girl who he clearly knows was not the bad guys. Why don`t you have the balls to say it how it is?
Isn't this what corrupt people do, kill innocent people that they clearly know are not the bad guys.  He is just playing the game on their terms and by their rules.  Normally, it's the other way round, the whistle-blower gets his head blown off, while the corrupt guys walk away whistling dixie.  Corruption doesn't like it when you play by their rules, in fact, their whole modus operandi is predicated on the fact people play fair, that's how they get away with it.  This guy just learnt the rules of the game before it was used against him.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 02:41:35 PM
It does not take a rocket scientist to see this guy is a bad guy, killing an innocent person intentionally is as bad as they come.
What and you don't think the corrupt people do this shit!  I remember here in Melbourne years ago, the corrupt police blew the head of a whistle blowing colleague in the toilet of the police station, they all covered it up and made up some bullshit story about accidental firearm discharge, their were rumours for years bout what really happened and it has been discussed openly by a royal commissioner.  you don't think that those corrupt bastards wouldn't have loved to do the same thing to this guy, he is just playing their game.  He didn't want to play it, if you want to blame anybody for the death of an innocent woman, blame the corrupt father who made shitty life choices and by doing so endangered his family.  He knew the stakes of the game, he rolled the dice and was winning for a while, him winning early in the game made him bold and reckless and now his daughter paid the ultimate price for his arrogance.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: arce1988 on February 08, 2013, 05:34:28 PM
What and you don't think the corrupt people do this shit!  I remember here in Melbourne years ago, the corrupt police blew the head of a whistle blowing colleague in the toilet of the police station, they all covered it up and made up some bullshit story about accidental firearm discharge, their were rumours for years bout what really happened and it has been discussed openly by a royal commissioner.  you don't think that those corrupt bastards wouldn't have loved to do the same thing to this guy, he is just playing their game.  He didn't want to play it, if you want to blame anybody for the death of an innocent woman, blame the corrupt father who made shitty life choices and by doing so endangered his family.  He knew the stakes of the game, he rolled the dice and was winning for a while, him winning early in the game made him bold and reckless and now his daughter paid the ultimate price for his arrogance.



BOOOM!


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: cswol on February 08, 2013, 08:08:48 PM
this guy is a true american hero and patriot, i applaud him for killing people who deserve it


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: BILL ANVIL on February 09, 2013, 01:10:57 AM
this guy is a true american hero and patriot, i applaud him for killing people who deserve it

same here bro, I dont care what anyone says most cops are pathetic pieces of shit who shouldnt be spared


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Mattyh7688 on February 09, 2013, 01:29:46 AM
this guy is a true american hero and patriot, i applaud him for killing people who deserve it
he's killing relatives not even the people involved.. I for one don't want to be murdered for something my dad did.


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Radical Plato on February 09, 2013, 01:53:49 AM
he's killing relatives not even the people involved.. I for one don't want to be murdered for something my dad did.
Well tell your Dad to pull his head in!


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 09, 2013, 02:59:15 AM
PIGS will be PIGS.  A scourge on the earth.

What and you don't think the corrupt people do this shit!  I remember here in Melbourne years ago, the corrupt police blew the head of a whistle blowing colleague in the toilet of the police station, they all covered it up and made up some bullshit story about accidental firearm discharge, their were rumours for years bout what really happened and it has been discussed openly by a royal commissioner.  you don't think that those corrupt bastards wouldn't have loved to do the same thing to this guy, he is just playing their game.  He didn't want to play it, if you want to blame anybody for the death of an innocent woman, blame the corrupt father who made shitty life choices and by doing so endangered his family.  He knew the stakes of the game, he rolled the dice and was winning for a while, him winning early in the game made him bold and reckless and now his daughter paid the ultimate price for his arrogance.



BOOOM!


Title: Re: Be careful who you
Post by: BILL ANVIL on February 09, 2013, 03:11:25 PM
again.. consequences .. guy put his family at risk, thinking he was untouchable.