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and the constant development of mankind to higher levels?
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and the constant development of mankind to higher levels?
One word No.
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no....
i'm a fan of gould's "nature red in tooth and claw"
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and the constant development of mankind to higher levels?
Yes, atheists are the next progression in evolution, the human being is evolving into a more rational, reasonable and intelligent creature away from the ancient simple mindedness of the religious human.
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Yes I believe that Darwin came up with a theory and called it evolution.
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Fuck no.
First off, it's not even his. He got it from his grandfather I believe.
Evolution is a religion of DEATH.
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Fuck no.
First off, it's not even his. He got it from his grandfather I believe.
Evolution is a religion of DEATH.
did you just get up from your nap?
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did you just get up from your nap?
lol
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lol
do you want a ba-ba? then i'll sing you a song and you can rest some more...
Hush little wiggsey don't say a word
Mama's gonna buy you a mocking bird.
If that mocking bird don't sing,
Mama's gonna buy you a diamond ring.
If that diamond ring turns brass,
Mama's gonna buy you a looking glass.
If that looking glass gets broke,
Mama's gonna buy you a billy goat.
If that billy goat won't pull,
Mama's gonna buy you a cart and bull.
If that cart and bull turn over,
Mama's gonna buy you a dog named Rover.
If that dog named Rover won't bark,
Mama's gonna buy you a horse and cart.
If that horse and cart fall down,
You'll still be the sweetest wiggs in
town.
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do you want a ba-ba? then i'll sing you a song and you can rest some more...
Hush little wiggsey don't say a word
Mama's gonna buy you a mocking bird.
If that mocking bird don't sing,
Mama's gonna buy you a diamond ring.
If that diamond ring turns brass,
Mama's gonna buy you a looking glass.
If that looking glass gets broke,
Mama's gonna buy you a billy goat.
If that billy goat won't pull,
Mama's gonna buy you a cart and bull.
If that cart and bull turn over,
Mama's gonna buy you a dog named Rover.
If that dog named Rover won't bark,
Mama's gonna buy you a horse and cart.
If that horse and cart fall down,
You'll still be the sweetest wiggs in
town.
lol
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Yes, atheists are the next progression in evolution, the human being is evolving into a more rational, reasonable and intelligent creature away from the ancient simple mindedness of the religious human.
Would you say a majority are evolving in this fashion or just a minority?
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most scientists no longer believe it
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This looks to be right... ;D
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LOLOLOLOL
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most scientists no longer believe it
That is absolute Horse SHit! An overwhelming majority of the scientific community accepts evolution as the dominant scientific theory of biological diversity. Their is a NUTTER Religous group called the "Discovery Institute" which made a wild claim that their was little public support for evolution, but nearly every scientific society, representing hundreds of thousands of scientists, has issued official statements disputing this claim and a petition supporting the teaching of evolutionary biology was endorsed by 72 US Nobel Prize winners.. Additionally, US courts have ruled in favor of teaching evolution in science classrooms, and against teaching creationism, in numerous cases such as Edwards v. Aguillard, Hendren v. Campbell, McLean v. Arkansas and Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District.
One 1987 estimate found that "700 scientists ... (out of a total of 480,000 U.S. earth and life scientists) ... give credence to creation-science". An expert in the evolution-creationism controversy, professor and author Brian Alters, states that "99.9 percent of scientists accept evolution". A 1991 Gallup poll of Americans found that about 5% of scientists (including those with training outside biology) identified themselves as creationists.
Additionally, the scientific community considers intelligent design, a neo-creationist offshoot, to be unscientific, pseudoscience, or junk science.
Hope this Helps.
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Yes, atheists are the next progression in evolution, the human being is evolving into a more rational, reasonable and intelligent creature away from the ancient simple mindedness of the religious human.
Darvins evolution theory isn't about the man, it is about the species all together, and therefore there is quite strong possibility, that evolution will remove the humans from the face of the earth. Homo sapience is only species which is able to destroy whole planet, and it will do so. That's why evolution has start to corrupt the homo sapience genes, and by that we are closer to end than we realize. Just look around, there is violence, insanity, same sex marriages, bird flu, pig flu, ass flu, HIV & Aids, obesity, stupidity, imbeciles with conspiracy theories and cancer ;D
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Never understood was we need such absolutes. Sometimes the obvious IS the correct answer. Both creation and evolution can coexist. My theory? "God" (misinterpreted extraterrestrials) serving the same purpose of a spiritual god, created humanity, and at the same time evolution is taking place. Common sense is shocking sometimes.
For the true believers, this does not infringe on your faith... It's still a creator. But they wil scream no it's a guy with a white beard and robe!! Also who created who brought life to earth?
For the Darwinists... You still get your evolution and survival of the fittest, but you will yell no way it's all random. Even though the likelihood of that actually happening is slim to none.
There is no need for absolutes... Creation or Evolution. They can coexist.
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Just look around, there is violence, insanity, same sex marriages, bird flu, pig flu, ass flu, HIV & Aids, obesity, stupidity, imbeciles with conspiracy theories and cancer ;D
Are you not aware of human History, humanity has had all that and more, would you father live in the modern age of convenience, modern medicine, education, luxury and ease, or in biblical times with ignorance, crucifixion and other nasty torture, extreme poverty, incredible suffering, famine and disease. slavery, etc etc. The world was far shittier in days gone by and if shitty conditions were a sign of the end of the world, the world would have ended a long time ago. The truth is for first world citizens they are living in a garden of eden compared to ancient times.
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This looks to be right... ;D
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FUCK ME THAT's one of the funniest things on here.
It would be even better if you throw the Beyonce pic in there. See if you can make Tbombz famous
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This looks to be right... ;D
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Lol did Homo Tbomzapien walk backeards as well? ;)
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what's to believe in a theory that's been confusing Generations on so many aspects......it's Flawed.....the art of evolution cannot be applied to everything....more than half of scientists are split on the subject with no decided conclusion in sight....Charles Darwins' Evolution theory was based on his own Observations and personnal Interpretations......one Question for Darwin. why are Monkeys stop evolving into Humans?.....until every thinking scientist can all agree on this Horseshit evolution theory, Generation will still look for a Logical, Sane Explanation
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and the constant development of mankind to higher levels?
Based on the quality of your posts: No.
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more than half of scientists are split on the subject with no decided conclusion in sight....Charles Darwins' Evolution theory was based on his own Observations and personnal Interpretations.
Repost, because the less evolved are unable to read the actual thread, just the title. It doesn't suprise me that Religous Nuts just make shit up and sell it as fact when it comes to Evolution, they do it with everything else, why not Evolution.
That is absolute Horse SHit that more than half of scientists are split on the subject. An overwhelming majority of the scientific community accepts evolution as the dominant scientific theory of biological diversity. Their is a NUTTER Religous group called the "Discovery Institute" which made a wild claim that their was little public support for evolution, but nearly every scientific society, representing hundreds of thousands of scientists, has issued official statements disputing this claim and a petition supporting the teaching of evolutionary biology was endorsed by 72 US Nobel Prize winners.. Additionally, US courts have ruled in favor of teaching evolution in science classrooms, and against teaching creationism, in numerous cases such as Edwards v. Aguillard, Hendren v. Campbell, McLean v. Arkansas and Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District. Repeatedly, creationists and intelligent design advocates have lost suits in US courts
One 1987 estimate found that "700 scientists ... (out of a total of 480,000 U.S. earth and life scientists) ... give credence to creation-science". An expert in the evolution-creationism controversy, professor and author Brian Alters, states that "99.9 percent of scientists accept evolution". A 1991 Gallup poll of Americans found that about 5% of scientists (including those with training outside biology) identified themselves as creationists.
Additionally, the scientific community considers intelligent design, a neo-creationist offshoot, to be unscientific, pseudoscience, or junk science.
Not only is Science for a majority favour of Evolution, creationists and intelligent design advocates almost have ZERO support amongst the scientific community. Just because somebody wants something to NOT BE TRUE doesn't make it so. Thank GOD for science and those who have evolved enough to understand the difference between FACT and FICTION. One day in the NEAR FUTURE civilisation will look back and laugh about some of the crazy beliefs Religious Zealots held.
Hope this Helps.
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Never understood was we need such absolutes. Sometimes the obvious IS the correct answer. Both creation and evolution can coexist. My theory? "God" (misinterpreted extraterrestrials) serving the same purpose of a spiritual god, created humanity, and at the same time evolution is taking place. Common sense is shocking sometimes.
For the true believers, this does not infringe on your faith... It's still a creator. But they wil scream no it's a guy with a white beard and robe!! Also who created who brought life to earth?
For the Darwinists... You still get your evolution and survival of the fittest, but you will yell no way it's all random. Even though the likelihood of that actually happening is slim to none.
There is no need for absolutes... Creation or Evolution. They can coexist.
Even the "Big Bang" Theory, which is a form of evolution is so Ridiculously Flawed.....Recently, Many Scientists are questioning the Validity of this theory and many are split on the subject.....they are questioning what caused the Big Bang and what Pre-existing factor that precede that Big Bang.....I guess the research will be ongoing for years to come....ahhahahahaha
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Repost, because the less evolved are unable to read the actual thread, just the title. It doesn't suprise me that Religous Nuts just make shit up and sell it as fact when it comes to Evolution, they do it with everything else, why not Evolution.
That is absolute Horse SHit that more than half of scientists are split on the subject. An overwhelming majority of the scientific community accepts evolution as the dominant scientific theory of biological diversity. Their is a NUTTER Religous group called the "Discovery Institute" which made a wild claim that their was little public support for evolution, but nearly every scientific society, representing hundreds of thousands of scientists, has issued official statements disputing this claim and a petition supporting the teaching of evolutionary biology was endorsed by 72 US Nobel Prize winners.. Additionally, US courts have ruled in favor of teaching evolution in science classrooms, and against teaching creationism, in numerous cases such as Edwards v. Aguillard, Hendren v. Campbell, McLean v. Arkansas and Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District. Repeatedly, creationists and intelligent design advocates have lost suits in US courts
One 1987 estimate found that "700 scientists ... (out of a total of 480,000 U.S. earth and life scientists) ... give credence to creation-science". An expert in the evolution-creationism controversy, professor and author Brian Alters, states that "99.9 percent of scientists accept evolution". A 1991 Gallup poll of Americans found that about 5% of scientists (including those with training outside biology) identified themselves as creationists.
Additionally, the scientific community considers intelligent design, a neo-creationist offshoot, to be unscientific, pseudoscience, or junk science.
Not only is Science for a majority favour of Evolution, creationists and intelligent design advocates almost have ZERO support amongst the scientific community. Just because somebody wants something to NOT BE TRUE doesn't make it so. Thank GOD for science and those who have evolvedenough to understand the difference between FACT and FICTION. One day in the NEAR FUTURE civilisation will look back and laugh about some of the crazy beliefs Religious Zealots held.
Hope this Helps.
you can't believe on what some scientists said, but what make senses to you and your point of view.........you can decide to believe human intelligence evolve from monkey shit or you can decide to believe it's something more to this
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Even the "Big Bang" Theory, which is a form of evolution is so Ridiculously Flawed.....Recently, Many Scientists are questioning the Validity of this theory and many are split on the subject.....they are questioning what caused the Big Bang and what Pre-existing factor that precede that Big Bang.....I guess the research will be ongoing for years to come....ahhahahahaha
You are just making shit up, that's what Religious people do. The overwhelming majority of the scientific community accepts The Big Bang Theory as a valid hypothesis for the Origins of the Universe. Their isn't much argument about this.
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Even the "Big Bang" Theory, which is a form of evolution is so Ridiculously Flawed.....Recently, Many Scientists are questioning the Validity of this theory and many are split on the subject.....they are questioning what caused the Big Bang and what Pre-existing factor that precede that Big Bang.....I guess the research will be ongoing for years to come....ahhahahahaha
Flawed =\= false. Evolution is real, but it is not the answer to the beginnings of life. I'm not sure why this is so hard to comprehend.
I saw this nature show about a village of kids getting sick suddenly and mysteriously. To make a long story short, the frogs these kids were playing with we're becoming more poisonous to deter a snake that preyed on them from eating them, because they were becoming resistant to thier poison. It got to the point even touching them made the kids sick. This is evolution.
The religious types won't like this example because t is proof of how evolution works... the frog never becomes a snake, which is what a lot of creationists think.
On the other hand, it does not preclude a creator of man. The conflict doesn't exist... The conflict is manmade.
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you can't believe on what some scientists said, but what make senses to you and your point of view.........you can decide to believe human intelligence evolve from monkey shit or you can decide to believe it's something more to this
It has nothing to do with what a scientist said, their is overwhelming evidence to support their theories. Scientists explanation of the universe around us if far more amazing and awe inspiring than any tale told by semi literate superstitious control freaks.
Please, feel free to believe in a grandiose father figure miraculously created all this in 7 days, instantly created man, stole one of his ribs to create a woman, placed them in paradise only to tempt them, knowing that man would fall for this due to God's omniscience and then become an angry vengeful bastard on a murderous war path demanding to be worshipped and threatening his own creation with eternal damnation all the while telling us he loves us and conveying contradictory rules to follow that make little to no sense. But good luck finding any evidence for it.
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I'm an uneducated, weak-willed, brainwashed Christian moron that's scared of dying and searching for a father figure so I've invented fantasies about flying spaghetti monsters and almighty gnomes to make me feel better about my inevitable cosmic fate.
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You are just making shit up, that's what Religious people do. The overwhelming majority of the scientific community accepts The Big Bang Theory as a valid hypothesis for the Origins of the Universe. Their isn't much argument about this.
LOL.....I ain't making anything up, Mate......if I don't believe in God, then something else must be making more senses to me. Religion can't explain or Prove if God really exist, they really on their faith and no one can explain or prove fully that Life Begins with a Big Bang, they rely on theories, Perhapses, Maybes, unexplained reasons and so on....so, the debate continues.
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Even the "Big Bang" Theory, which is a form of evolution is so Ridiculously Flawed.....Recently, Many Scientists are questioning the Validity of this theory and many are split on the subject.....they are questioning what caused the Big Bang and what Pre-existing factor that precede that Big Bang.....I guess the research will be ongoing for years to come....ahhahahahaha
it is not a form of evolution, LMAO.. you are trolling.
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LOL.....I ain't making anything up, Mate......if I don't believe in God, then something else must be making more senses to me. Religion can't explain or Prove if God really exist, they really on their faith and no one can explain or prove fully that Life Begins with a Big Bang, they rely on theories, Perhapses, Maybes, unexplained reasons and so on....so, the debate continues.
life didnt begin with the big bang, are you functionally retarded. Please explain what the big bang theory states.
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LOL.....I ain't making anything up, Mate......if I don't believe in God, then something else must be making more senses to me. Religion can't explain or Prove if God really exist, they really on their faith and no one can explain or prove fully that Life Begins with a Big Bang, they rely on theories, Perhapses, Maybes, unexplained reasons and so on....so, the debate continues.
Yeah, and I can believe in Santa Claus until the day I die, it doesn't mean he is going to show up next Christams, I can even debate it, lots of other people also believe in him (albeit children), their are many sightings of him, also, why would humanity hold on to something that obviously wasn't true. How else do the gifts get to the children?
Now unless, you can show me some credible evidence and a decent theory as to why their is no Santa Claus, I will continue to believe.(mind you, if I was to be a true zealot, I will still deny the evidence and go on believing, even after you prove me wrong) The simple explanation is, you lack the requisite critical thinking and analysis skills to examine and make sense of the scientific data, that's it, bottom line is, you're not evolved enough or have the required Intelligence to understand the theories presented by modern day science, so it is far easier for you to follow in the footsteps of all the other ignorant lemmings.
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You are just making shit up, that's what Religious people do. The overwhelming majority of the scientific community accepts The Big Bang Theory as a valid hypothesis for the Origins of the Universe. Their isn't much argument about this.
Dude, get some original thoughts please....your copy paste mentality is ridiculous! I work with physicist and scientist regularly and the big bang theory, is just that a funny show on the telly! Good luck proving to the majority of physicist that matter was created using energy without some higher power that is explainable!
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Dude, get some original thoughts please....your copy paste mentality is ridiculous! I work with physicist and scientist regularly and the big bang theory, is just that a funny show on the telly! Good luck proving to the majority of physicist that matter was created using energy without some higher power that is explainable!
Oh, I will have to change my opinion now, because one religious Nut works with another religious Nut who invalidates what the majority of the scientific community believes. Find me one scientific peer reviewed article discrediting the big bang theory and suggesting GOD did it! Good Luck with that. I honestly feel deep sympathy for anybody who believes that Science supports their ideas on creationism or intelligent design. That's some serious delusion and wishful thinking, which isn't unusual for Religious types, that is their modus operandi.
As to the origin of matter (as in the initial singularity), this is something we are yet to discover, although there are various theories that explain the prevalence of matter over antimatter, for example, consider SU(5) GUT. SU(5) GUT is a Grand unified theory, and in this theory, matter and antimatter appear as a consequence of the decay of two hypothetical particles, the X-boson and the anti-X boson. It is postulated that in between 10-35 s. and 10-12s. after Big Bang this two particles underwent radioactive decay in an antisymmetric way. This created more quantity of matter than antimatter as decay products.
Some of these theories my lead to an eventual discovery of the origin of matter and you can rest assured, that although complex the answer will will be a lot less complex than explaining the origins of GOD!
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life didnt begin with the big bang, are you functionally retarded. Please explain what the big bang theory states.
you can do your own research on that and draw an inteligent conclusion
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rofl
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Yeah, and I can believe in Santa Claus until the day I die, it doesn't mean he is going to show up next Christams, I can even debate it, lots of other people also believe in him (albeit children), their are many sightings of him, also, why would humanity hold on to something that obviously wasn't true. How else do the gifts get to the children?
Now unless, you can show me some credible evidence and a decent theory as to why their is no Santa Claus, I will continue to believe.(mind you, if I was to be a true zealot, I will still deny the evidence and go on believing, even after you prove me wrong) The simple explanation is, you lack the requisite critical thinking and analysis skills to examine and make sense of the scientific data, that's it, bottom line is, you're not evolved enough or have the required Intelligence to understand the theories presented by modern day science, so it is far easier for you to follow in the footsteps of all the other ignorant lemmings.
if I don't believe in the Big Bang theory, that doesn't make me a religious fanatic.......science has it's very Limits.....not everything can be explained and there is line drawn. but once that line is crossed, the very intelligent started to sound like Fools and that's a problem
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the very intelligent started to sound like Fools and that's a problem
LOL at religion claiming scientists to be fools
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you can do your own research on that and draw an inteligent conclusion
I know what the big bang states, it has nothing to do with evolution, follows none of the same rules and isnt the beginning of life. You have no idea what you are talking about.
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Dude, get some original thoughts please....your copy paste mentality is ridiculous! I work with physicist and scientist regularly and the big bang theory, is just that a funny show on the telly! Good luck proving to the majority of physicist that matter was created using energy without some higher power that is explainable!
Matter is neither created nor destroyed, it has always existed. The big bang isn't really a beginning because there is something called a singularity (man made) that cause our math to break down. We need more insight/data to go any further back if it's possible.
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I'm probably missing something. But if you don't believe the theory of evolution is a viable scientific posit, then what would you have one believe? Don't be coy either. Lay your theory out there.
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I'm probably missing something. But if you don't believe the theory of evolution is a viable scientific posit, then what would you have one believe? Don't be coy either. Lay your theory out there.
Already did. Read the thread.
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Already did. Read the thread.
I read the thread. Too disjointed.
Unless the counter theory was "evolution is ok, but so is creationism, and the two aren't mutually exclusive. So some creator started life, and engineered life to function and grow and change per what we now call the theory evolution". Was that it?
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I read the thread. Too disjointed.
Unless the counter theory was "evolution is ok, but so is creationism, and the two aren't mutually exclusive. So some creator started life, and engineered life to function and grow and change per what we now call the theory evolution". Was that it?
Oh they are mutually exclusive.
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Getbig is a bastion of stupidity. Nearly everyone in this thread is dumb as bricks.
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I do enjoy threads such as these though. They keep me abreast on who the morons are on this site. Not that I didn`t already know, but I am sure there is always room for new faces.
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Oh they are mutually exclusive.
Stop messing with my trolling! ;D
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Getbig is a bastion of stupidity. Nearly everyone in this thread including myself is dumb as bricks.
Agreed.
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LOL
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Stop messing with my trolling! ;D
I find I can't troll these threads, the stupid just aggravates me and I come out of character.
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yes
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It's disappointing that this question even needs to be asked.
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I read the thread. Too disjointed.
Unless the counter theory was "evolution is ok, but so is creationism, and the two aren't mutually exclusive. So some creator started life, and engineered life to function and grow and change per what we now call the theory evolution". Was that it?
Yes cause this theory is so far fetched. But the white bearded guy with harps did it OR everything is completely random ... those both are completely logical.
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Evolution > creationism.
We live in the 21st century, not the middle ages.
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Haha - brilliant!
But flip his body so he is facing the same way as the more evolved ones!
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Haha - brilliant!
But flip his body so he is facing the same way as the more evolved ones!
No, that is correct. Tbombz is de-evolving, so he is going backwards.
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They found bodies thousands of feet below the surface when digging for Gold in California that were millions of years old but wiped it all out from the history and science books. So this intelligent man says.
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Are you not aware of human History, humanity has had all that and more, would you father live in the modern age of convenience, modern medicine, education, luxury and ease, or in biblical times with ignorance, crucifixion and other nasty torture, extreme poverty, incredible suffering, famine and disease. slavery, etc etc. The world was far shittier in days gone by and if shitty conditions were a sign of the end of the world, the world would have ended a long time ago. The truth is for first world citizens they are living in a garden of eden compared to ancient times.
That is true only for little part of the human race. Majority lives in the houses, which have dirt floor, they live outside of the modern society, like asian countries. And when evolution brings mankind one good and positive ability, it also take away something what we have learn in the past. Modern man is helpless little brat who will die without society which back him up, feed him, and tell him what to do, how and when. For example, if I give you a cow, can you make a pair of boots from it? No you can't, even if you life would depend from it. If I give you 1 lb of iron, can you make a hammer from it? Or ax, or anything? No, you can't. While just about all the people 100-150 years ago were able to make their own tools and clothes, now there is only 10 % of the population who is able to do it. 90% will be screwed without the shops, because evolution has make them incompetent as humans. You are able to use many kind of power tools, computers and calculators, but what you can do without electricity? Will you watch your TV at the candle light? No, you sit in the dark and cry for help, and while you do that, at least half of the population of the USA is looting.
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They found bodies thousands of feet below the surface when digging for Gold in California that were millions of years old but wiped it all out from the history and science books. So this intelligent man says.
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When was this? Where is those thousands of feet deep mining holes? Where is all the evidence? Photos, documents of lab tests about the age etc. I smell bullshit all over these claims.
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lets say everything he said is correct, does that mean that no god was behind it all?
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;D
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Look at creationism and Darwinism coexisting like this:
Lego Starwars.
Lets see if the intellectuals can follow.
You have a bag of Legos and the little blueprint of how to make this pile of parts look like the Millenium Falcon. You can toss the blueprint to the side and shake the parts up in a bucket an infinite amount of times...you can add glue...chemicals...anyth ing you want, and it will never become tge Millenium Falcon this way.
But your in luck!!! You have the blueprint. So you take it, and except for a few of you Neanderthals, you build a shiny new Millenoum Falcon.
Now along comes little Johnny. And he thinks it would look better painted black, or with an extra door added to it, or tires. So he makes his changes to it, but it still remains a Millenium Falcon. It is now just Millenium Falcon + Spray paint, or + tires.
The Millenium Falcon did not suddenly become The Lego Death Star.
So in summary, using a blueprint a creator put the Millenium Falcon together, and an outside influence (Johnny...or radiation, or carbon, or any other outside influence) changed it into a bigger and better Millenium Falcon with no further assistance from the creator. And the outside influence did not turn the Millenium Falcon into the Death Star.
Now let this simple example stew for a few before you make any dumbass comments. And yes Legos fucking rule.
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Look at creationism and Darwinism coexisting like this:
Lego Starwars.
Lets see if the intellectuals can follow.
You have a bag of Legos and the little blueprint of how to make this pile of parts look like the Millenium Falcon. You can toss the blueprint to the side and shake the parts up in a bucket an infinite amount of times...you can add glue...chemicals...anyth ing you want, and it will never become tge Millenium Falcon this way.
But your in luck!!! You have the blueprint. So you take it, and except for a few of you Neanderthals, you build a shiny new Millenoum Falcon.
Now along comes little Johnny. And he thinks it would look better painted black, or with an extra door added to it, or tires. So he makes his changes to it, but it still remains a Millenium Falcon. It is now just Millenium Falcon + Spray paint, or + tires.
The Millenium Falcon did not suddenly become The Lego Death Star.
So in summary, using a blueprint a creator put the Millenium Falcon together, and an outside influence (Johnny...or radiation, or carbon, or any other outside influence) changed it into a bigger and better Millenium Falcon with no further assistance from the creator. And the outside influence did not turn the Millenium Falcon into the Death Star.
Now let this simple example stew for a few before you make any dumbass comments. And yes Legos fucking rule.
You don't really understand Evolution, most of evolutionary biology deals with how life changed after its origin. Regardless of how life started, afterwards it branched and diversified, and most studies of evolution are focused on those processes. Evolution postulates that life started out as very basic simple life form, and through the process of gradual and slow improvement became better adapted to survive and as a result more complex in design. This complexity isn't something that can be thrown together with a blueprint and all the right parts, it has to traverse through a very slow process of gradual refinement and improvement. In other words you can't arrive at the stage of having a Millennium Falcon without first have created less complex spaceships.
For example, today's Formula One car relies on the evolution of the motor vehicle from a very primitive stage. Even if you could go back to the beginning of the motor vehicle and hand them the blueprint to build a formula one car, they may be able to build it but they won't understand it, and they sure as hell won't be able to improve on it, because they have failed to follow the natural path that all progression takes. You are failing to see the crux of evolution, and that is that complex organisms don't just spontaneously arise, they have come about due to a long slow process of gradual improvement from the very basic to the current complexity we have today. In the same way that you weren't suddenly created a fully grown man with your current skill set, you evolved from a very basic process called fertilization and slowly adapted until you became the man you are today.
Look at it like a garden, if you create the right conditions, you will be rewarded with good healthy plants, but you didn't create the plants, all you did was to create the environment for them to grow, the genetic material contained within the seed did the rest, combined with the right conditions you provided. If you want to argue for God's involvement, you need to argue what force enabled such an environment for evolution to happen in the first-place.
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and the constant development of mankind to higher levels?
Of course there is evolution going on. The evidence is overwhelming. However, at the time Darwin proposed his theory, genes were not known and the theory is incomplete.
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You don't really understand Evolution, most of evolutionary biology deals with how life changed after its origin. Regardless of how life started, afterwards it branched and diversified, and most studies of evolution are focused on those processes. Evolution postulates that life started out as very basic simple life form, and through the process of gradual and slow improvement became better adapted to survive and as a result more complex in design. This complexity isn't something that can be thrown together with a blueprint and all the right parts, it has to traverse through a very slow process of gradual refinement and improvement. In other words you can't arrive at the stage of having a Millennium Falcon without first have created less complex spaceships.
For example, today's Formula One car relies on the evolution of the motor vehicle from a very primitive stage. Even if you could go back to the beginning of the motor vehicle and hand them the blueprint to build a formula one car, they may be able to build it but they won't understand it, and they sure as hell won't be able to improve on it, because they have failed to follow the natural path that all progression takes. You are failing to see the crux of evolution, and that is that complex organisms don't just spontaneously arise, they have come about due to a long slow process of gradual improvement from the very basic to the current complexity we have today. In the same way that you weren't suddenly created a fully grown man with your current skill set, you evolved from a very basic process called fertilization and slowly adapted until you became the man you are today.
Look at it like a garden, if you create the right conditions, you will be rewarded with good healthy plants, but you didn't create the plants, all you did was to create the environment for them to grow, the genetic material contained within the seed did the rest, combined with the right conditions you provided. If you want to argue for God's involvement, you need to argue what force enabled such an environment for evolution to happen in the first-place.
No YOU don't understand evolution. I spent 8 years every day with a born again Christian sitting next to me in my work truck. The view he portrayed is that Christians believe evolution means a bug evolved into a bird and bird into a frog and into an elephant.... All because of the statement saying all life started from a single cell.
FYI IT'S A SINGLE CELL NOWHERE DOES IT SAY THE SAME SINGLE CELL. And no matter the discussion and explanation of favorable traits and natural selection inside a single species... his response was always "show me the fossil record of where a frog spontaneously evolved into a pig." Over time I found this is the misconception of creationists.
A FROG TURNS INTO A DIFFERENT FROG. A frog does not turn into a dog.
And I'm Christian. Stop drinking the Coolaid.
After reading your post more closely... You are agreeing with me dumbass. I made it a simple example of purpose. No shit the plastic parts in the bag needed to be made first. Wtf.
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Am I correct in understanding that Dawin believed in two classes of people - the evolutionary elite (a minority) and the evolutionary garbage (the majority). So therefore only a minority really evolves, and he said the minority should not mate with the majority.
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No YOU don't understand evolution. I spent 8 years every day with a born again Christian sitting next to me in my work truck. The view he portrayed is that Christians believe evolution means a bug evolved into a bird and bird into a frog and into an elephant.... All because of the statement saying all life started from a single cell.
FYI IT'S A SINGLE CELL NOWHERE DOES IT SAY THE SAME SINGLE CELL. And no matter the discussion and explanation of favorable traits and natural selection inside a single species... his response was always "show me the fossil record of where a frog spontaneously evolved into a pig." Over time I found this is the misconception of creationists.
A FROG TURNS INTO A DIFFERENT FROG. A frog does not turn into a dog.
And I'm Christian. Stop drinking the Coolaid.
What is your point?, Do you even have one. I am well aware that a frog does not turn into a dog, that would disprove EVOLUTION. You were suggesting that a divine being created a complex organism (the Millenium Falcon) and that something else took over from their to evolve it (radiation, or carbon, or any other outside influence) into the Death Star. I simply pointed out that Evolution doesn't start half way through, and that complexity begins from simplicity. And judging by your argument, it was obvious you were religious (Christian)
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What is your point?, Do you even have one. I am well aware that a frog does not turn into a dog, that would disprove EVOLUTION. You were suggesting that a divine being created a complex organism (the Millenium Falcon) and that something else took over from their to evolve it (radiation, or carbon, or any other outside influence) into the Death Star. I simply pointed out that Evolution doesn't start half way through, and that complexity begins from simplicity. And judging by your argument, it was obvious you were religious (Christian)
I edited my post to say you are saying the same thing as me. RE-read it. I'm not religious AT ALL. My example is more critical of creationists then evolutionists. RE-read that as well.
I was born a Catholic, but I think religion is crap. I have faith. Faith that life didn't spawn randomly, but I 100% believe in evolution after the fact.
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I edited my post to say you are saying the same thing as me. RE-read it. I'm not religious AT ALL. My example is more critical of creationists then evolutionists. RE-read that as well.
I was born a Catholic, but I think religion is crap. I have faith. Faith that life didn't spawn randomly, but I 100% believe in evolution after the fact.
Well, their seems to be a misunderstanding, I think we agree about the truth of evolution, just not the creationism part of it,
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Well, their seems to be a misunderstanding, I think we agree about the truth of evolution, just not the creationism part of it,
Yes in my example Millenium Falcon =\= human. It = cell. Individual blocks = components to make a cell. The black paint or any outside force causes a change to a cell...evolving it. The example of pig into a different pig = cell into a different cell. Stupidly for me, I over calculated the deductive skills of people.
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Walter Russell , good friend of nikoli tesla, has totally different science than what is accepted, nikoli advised him to hide this knowledge.
Russell was the first to manipulate weather , read this and you can try it yourself
this is the wave feild
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this is the electric current, still magnetic white light is at the fulcrum/center and it is an infinitly small sphere of neutral charge the red and blue denote positive and negative charges (http://htmlimg4.scribdassets.com/5j4w1wwe2o1cfpmd/images/12-3f122c239e.jpg)
at each plane the current intersects is an inert gas (look it up if you dont know). it will help you understand the wave feild that is sitting right next to you and is through all things including you
the whole periodic table is a pressurized wave feild of white light the more or less pressure the different the element becomes , each octave or fulcrum is seen here in the wave remember the fulcrum/center i explained earlyer my fiends (http://htmlimg3.scribdassets.com/5j4w1wwe2o1cfpmd/images/38-8cfcd648d1.jpg)
walter russell can show you the full periodic table wich shows the progression of the still magnetic white light in different pressure feilds
if someone could post a zoomed in version it would be of great help and falcon respect to do so
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not only is this fascinating its mind blowing when you understand it here check out this experiment, we could do it ourselfs imagine the possibilities. i suggest you read the full 70 pages first to understand it
but here is a recount of the walter russell experiment
Creating Technology
Warning:
Some of the things described here are quite dangerous and potentially lethal.Please use
extreme
caution, and consider things carefully before attempting anyof this.In the book
Atomic Suicide?
there are some experiments given to simulate the patterns of
TheOctave Wave
so that one may see them personally. They involve running electricity throughconically wound coils pointed towards one another. By using compasses, one can see the directionof electrical flow. And by placing iron filings between them, it makes the shape of the
DoublyCharged Sphere
. Changing the distance between coils makes the sphere prolate and oblate.There are some storiesof others whom have attempted to carry out similar experiments, which I quote here:A couple of years later, after we both spoke at a conference in Denver and on the plane back to Dallas, I told Peter (Kelly) about an interesting experiment done byWalter Russell and recounted in his excellent book 'Atomic Suicide'.
Two coilswere wound on cones.The apices of these conical coils were pointed towards each other and powerwas applied so that bucking fields were created by the collision of oppositemagnetic fields. Very fine iron filings were dropped into the gap between thecoils and a levitating sphere was produced.When the coils were slowly pulled apart, an oval followed by a spheresurrounded by a disk appeared.
When Peter arrived home, he tried thisexperiment and reported that when power was turned on, nearly eveyone in the building complained of feeling
nauseous or queasy
. He explained that anexperiment was going on so that everyone would understand what was happening.After about an hour, the very clear and cloudless sky began to suddenly boil up and
a major thunderstorm ensued
. Power was removed from the coils and the stormdissipated as fast as it had arisen??? Weird stuff no doubt and subject to duplication by others if we all share our information...... JerryA conventional science description of why such effects occured might be something along theselines:The "bucking magnetic fields" forms a lot of ions that creates a potential difference between the area of the experiment and the sky, which causes a thunderstorm.(Something similar is said to have been used to control the weather ). Thisionization probably also produces a lot of ozone that can make people feel sick.And depending upon how its powered (e.g.: high frequency AC), it might evenmake a significant amount of microwaves.However, the most intriguing bit is how the storm disappeared immediately when the coils weredeactivated. I conjecture that perhaps all the ions were connected to their parent sphere (the onecreated by the iron filings), and were dissipated instantly when it ceased to exist with the removal of power.
Assuming that the building is quite large, the fact that it made everyone in it feel nauseated(including those whom were probably not even near it) is very important as well. It is possible their radiations might also create fields that may not be healthy (e.g.: depending upon the positioning of the coils as they mimick different elements)
to understand in full go here http://www.scribd.com/doc/76359437/Walter-and-Lao-Russell
lastly
Walter Russell
Russell=llessur
Walter=R ET LAW
lesser ARE Extra terrestrial law
so even this isnt the apex of all knowing there is more to come but this is still the "LAW"
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^^^^ And this relates to evolution, HOW exactly?
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^^^^ And this relates to evolution, HOW exactly?
Open your mind to me, Quaid!
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When was this? Where is those thousands of feet deep mining holes? Where is all the evidence? Photos, documents of lab tests about the age etc. I smell bullshit all over these claims.
He's saying the Hierarchy in the scientific community got rid of all the evidence. It's not like it was reported in the news papers like the Roswell crash. I've heard rumors from a guy who worked in a Diamond mine that they 've pulled bones and ancient tools out of there that was considered top secret. That there were always people on site that would take that kind of stuff away. Who knows.
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hilarious thread.
you are wasting your time arguing with creationists... they cant accept double blind studies and proof nor can do the research to find out the why why why's.
they conveniently stop at a juncture that suits themselves.
what they want from you, is for you to explain everything from now, back to as far as evidence proves...and thats a big, long discussion. coupled with it, is how we know from data, that things work- so you need to teach them probability, controlled experimentation, atomic physics and so on..just in order for them to "get it"...
there is no point in arguing. they refuse to accept that there are things they dont know, so to them, its easier to accept a biblical story rather than do the study and flesh out their knowledge.
people like this are comfortable with just relying on what someone said.. scientists dont accept that- they need an exp[lanation every step of the way. and when they come up with a hypothesis, they set about trying to prove it.
now, this train of thought and process is so strongly in favour or science, religion is relying on the mob for its "cred". its waning big time and eventually no one but the stupid will "believe"..thats already happening...its fantasy thats so easily manipulated for unsavoury purposes...
so maybe itll be around for a while yet..its taken 500 years to get the majority of the smart people in the world to discredit religion due to overwhelming evidence to the contrary...itll probably take another 1000 or more to get rid of it altogether..
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hilarious thread.
you are wasting your time arguing with creationists... they cant accept double blind studies and proof nor can do the research to find out the why why why's.
they conveniently stop at a juncture that suits themselves.
what they want from you, is for you to explain everything from now, back to as far as evidence proves...and thats a big, long discussion. coupled with it, is how we know from data, that things work- so you need to teach them probability, controlled experimentation, atomic physics and so on..just in order for them to "get it"...
there is no point in arguing. they refuse to accept that there are things they dont know, so to them, its easier to accept a biblical story rather than do the study and flesh out their knowledge.
people like this are comfortable with just relying on what someone said.. scientists dont accept that- they need an exp[lanation every step of the way. and when they come up with a hypothesis, they set about trying to prove it.
now, this train of thought and process is so strongly in favour or science, religion is relying on the mob for its "cred". its waning big time and eventually no one but the stupid will "believe"..thats already happening...its fantasy thats so easily manipulated for unsavoury purposes...
so maybe itll be around for a while yet..its taken 500 years to get the majority of the smart people in the world to discredit religion due to overwhelming evidence to the contrary...itll probably take another 1000 or more to get rid of it altogether..
Great Post.
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hilarious thread.
you are wasting your time arguing with creationists... they cant accept double blind studies and proof nor can do the research to find out the why why why's.
they conveniently stop at a juncture that suits themselves.
what they want from you, is for you to explain everything from now, back to as far as evidence proves...and thats a big, long discussion. coupled with it, is how we know from data, that things work- so you need to teach them probability, controlled experimentation, atomic physics and so on..just in order for them to "get it"...
there is no point in arguing. they refuse to accept that there are things they dont know, so to them, its easier to accept a biblical story rather than do the study and flesh out their knowledge.
people like this are comfortable with just relying on what someone said.. scientists dont accept that- they need an exp[lanation every step of the way. and when they come up with a hypothesis, they set about trying to prove it.
now, this train of thought and process is so strongly in favour or science, religion is relying on the mob for its "cred". its waning big time and eventually no one but the stupid will "believe"..thats already happening...its fantasy thats so easily manipulated for unsavoury purposes...
so maybe itll be around for a while yet..its taken 500 years to get the majority of the smart people in the world to discredit religion due to overwhelming evidence to the contrary...itll probably take another 1000 or more to get rid of it altogether..
chances are a lot higher believers will still be alive while atheists will disapear simply because they dont reproduce anymore.
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chances are a lot higher believers will still be alive while atheists will disapear simply because they dont reproduce anymore.
There is a correlation between intelligence and birth rate- The lower the intelligence, the higher the birth rate. You are correct.
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There is a correlation between intelligence and birth rate- The lower the intelligence, the higher the birth rate. You are correct.
What are you trying to say Adam? Make it clear for those who may not be able to understand.
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What are you trying to say Adam? Make it clear for those who may not be able to understand.
He's saying what happened at the beginning of the movie your user name comes from
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What are you trying to say Adam? Make it clear for those who may not be able to understand.
I`m saying imagine how great the world would be full of little Ubermans and their fat wives with shit houses. They can watch basketball on the IPhones all night long and pray the gay away while obsessing over "the body" of Christ.
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I`m saying imagine how great the world would be full of little Ubermans and their fat wives with shit houses. They can watch basketball on the IPhones all night long and pray the gay away while obsessing over "the body" of Christ.
Laud! Gayer then drinking another mans bodily juices and eating his body at the last supper.
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The most religious people, the Christians of Africa, are the world`s top breeders so Uberman is in quite good company. I`d pay him to live with his brethren, the OongaBoongas in Sticktown Africa.
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The Chinese and Indians seem to be big breeders, statistically 1 in every 2 people will either be an Indian or a Chinese Person. They are both considered reasonably Intelligent races, the difference being Indians are very Religious and The Chinese aren't.
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and the constant development of mankind to higher levels?
bullshit or simply why other creatures havent developed??..
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There is a correlation between intelligence and birth rate- The lower the intelligence, the higher the birth rate. You are correct.
R-selection. Does not mean that the less intelligent will prevail in the end, but it is a good strategy for less resourceful people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory
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No, that is correct. Tbombz is de-evolving, so he is going backwards.
You have a good point - can't argue!
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What are you trying to say Adam? Make it clear for those who may not be able to understand.
He is saying he will have at least 10 offspring and RAtard will have 0.
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The Chinese and Indians seem to be big breeders, statistically 1 in every 2 people will either be an Indian or a Chinese Person. They are both considered reasonably Intelligent races, the difference being Indians are very Religious and The Chinese aren't.
2000 years ago the Chinese population already greatly exceeded Europe and the Roman Empire. They had a head start. Now they are not breeding so fast but dealing with 1000s of years of population growth.
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The Chinese and Indians seem to be big breeders, statistically 1 in every 2 people will either be an Indian or a Chinese Person. They are both considered reasonably Intelligent races, the difference being Indians are very Religious and The Chinese aren't.
smaller the dick the more potent the load as it needs to travel less
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He's saying the Hierarchy in the scientific community got rid of all the evidence. It's not like it was reported in the news papers like the Roswell crash. I've heard rumors from a guy who worked in a Diamond mine that they 've pulled bones and ancient tools out of there that was considered top secret. That there were always people on site that would take that kind of stuff away. Who knows.
And who will be that god like force, who deny the finder's right to reveal his finds? How they know, how they are everywhere? Total bullshit. Those bones would be more valuable than the diamonds, and every fucking fool knows that. Even those full retard gold diggers from discovery channel would know that. But if we look at the matter from the church's point of view, what would be nicer than conspiracy to demoralize the darwinists. You have to understand that claims don't prove anything. If I write here that you are complete moron, do it mean that you really are? It certainly is possible, but it isn't the fact without any evidence. I can claim what ever I want, but those are just claims, not the truth.
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I don't think any of you people really understand Darwin's theory of evolution. I think there is a lot of pseudo intellectualism in this thread.
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I don't think any of you people really understand Darwin's theory of evolution. I think there is a lot of pseudo intellectualism in this thread.
Stop making out like Evolution is rocket science. Evolution simply implies a change in one or more characteristics in a population of organisms over a period of time. Darwin wasn't the first guy to think of it, he just came up with some good evidence and working hypothesis. Aristotle perceived a “ladder of life” where simple organisms gradually change to more elaborate forms. And even back then the Bibles bashers were giving him a hard time about his ideas. No different than today, it's just now Evolutionary Biologists have collected such a vast array of evidence, you would have to be either brainwashed or a complete idiot to refute it.
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smaller the dick the more potent the load as it needs to travel less
;D ;D ;D
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It's obvious you don't know much about Charles Darwin's theory of evolution. You just have some sort of wikipedia type grasp.
Stop making out like Evolution is rocket science. Evolution simply implies a change in one or more characteristics in a population of organisms over a period of time. Darwin wasn't the first guy to think of it, he just came up with some good evidence and working hypothesis. Aristotle perceived a “ladder of life” where simple organisms gradually change to more elaborate forms. And even back then the Bibles bashers were giving him a hard time about his ideas. No different than today, it's just now Evolutionary Biologists have collected such a vast array of evidence, you would have to be either brainwashed or a complete idiot to refute it.
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It's obvious you don't know much about Charles Darwin's theory of evolution. You just have some sort of wikipedia type grasp.
Oh Please, give us your theistic interpretation of Evolution. What makes your understanding so much more advanced than what everyone else is taught at school? This should be good, a bible bashers take on Evolution.
Like this is real hard to understand.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=459660.0;attach=505242;image)This dude looks familiar!
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I only have a basic understanding of Darwin's theories, but it is clear from what has been said in this thread that none have even read them, or if they have read them, they just skimmed a few pages.
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I only have a basic understanding of Darwin's theories, but it is clear from what has been said in this thread that none have even read them, or if they have read them, they just skimmed a few pages.
If you only have a basic understanding of something, how are you able to judge someone else's level of attainment.? Maybe to highlight your point you need to point out some examples of were you believe people are demonstrating their ignorance.
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Darwin's theory of mankind's advancement was much more exclusive than people here indicate.
If you only have a basic understanding of something, how are you able to judge someone else's level of attainment.? Maybe to highlight your point you need to point out some examples of were you believe people are demonstrating their ignorance.
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Darwin's theory of mankind's advancement was much more exclusive than people here indicate.
exclusive of what?
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exclusive - only minority of population.
exclusive of what?
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