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Title: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 23, 2013, 04:46:03 PM
World Wrestling Entertainment appears to have picked a fight with the Tea Party, and Glenn Beck has come to the defense of the conservative movement. Now, WWE wants a piece of Beck.

WWE’s offense, from the perspective of Tea-Party conservatives, was the introduction of wrestler Jack Swagger and manager Zeb Colter, who typically appear in front of symbols and slogans adopted by the Tea Party, cite the Constitution, speak of patriotism, then launch into racist rants. The name of the Colter character, many Internet bloggers opine, is also a subtle slam against conservative columnist Ann Coulter.

On his radio show this week, Beck slammed the WWE for anti-conservative partisanship, and on Friday the WWE issued a press release challenging Beck to discuss the matter further as a guest on Monday Night Raw, which is taping Monday in Dallas, where Beck lives.

Beck took his time responding, but late Friday declined the invitation, saying, “Unfortunately, I am currently booked doing anything else.”

During Friday’s radio show, Beck excoriated the WWE not only for making Tea Partiers the villains in one of its latest storylines but also for making one of them a Vietnam War veteran, and he inferred that conservative fans might reconsider their decision to spend money on the brand.

“You’re making a villain out of what?” Beck asked. "Probably 80 percent of your audience who’s tired as it is of being miscast? They’re tired of this…I’m sick and tired of being miscast. I am sick and tired of it. It is lazy at best. And I certainly am not going to give any more time or my money to any organization that is miscasting, is making it harder for me and my family to stand up for what I believe in.”

Later, he got closer to suggesting that conservatives ought to boycott the WWE -- though without ever saying the word.


"We've talked about this for awhile," he said. "Put your money where your heart is ... You're gonna be mocked by people you think are friendly to you? No way!"

Beck (see video below) also called WWE characters, “Stupid wrestling people."

“WWE is giving Beck the opportunity to address our 14 million weekly viewers and our global fan base, as he believes we are offending our ‘conservative’ fans with this storyline,” the WWE said in its press-release challenge to Beck on Friday.

Late Friday, the WWE posted a video response to Beck where Swagger and Colter go off-character to explain that the politics they spout is for entertainment purposes only. See that video below, as well.

"We have about 60 characters on our show," says "Colter" in the video, referencing Monday Night Raw. "A lot more than say NCIS or Glee. But we're not that much different. Some of our characters are really likeable, and some are detestable."

The bashing of the Tea Party, of course, is hardly new in the entertainment industry. Morgan Freeman, for example, said on CNN that “The Tea Party movement – and, by association, the Republican party – is racist and wants to screw the country.”

Sean Penn, also on CNN, said: “You have what I call the ‘Get the N-word out of the White House party,’ the Tea Party.”

And perhaps the most recent high-profile slam came from Lincoln screenwriter Tony Kushner, who, during an interview on PBS, insinuated that Tea Partiers were ill informed.

“You have people like these Tea Party people protesting government and then asked if they really want to give up their Social Security payments and they don’t seem to know that that’s actually part of what government is,” he said. “There’s this rejection of this sort of basic idea of human community.”


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/glenn-beck-slams-wwe-declines-423606

WWE has a history of being equal-opportunity offenders. This angle looks to be almost identical to what they did nearly 10 years ago, putting John "Bradshaw" Layfield (JBL) vs. then-WWE champion "Latino Heat" Eddie Guererro

JBL was billed as a politician and arguably the biggest heel in the company, during the height of the Bush 2004 campaign.

He also feuded withh another Latino world champion, Rey Mysterio.

As of late, WWE has been painting the white antagonists as borderline racists and the Latino champions as good guys.

BTW -  Beck declined Zeb's invitation to appear on RAW this Monday in Dallas, where Beck now lives.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 23, 2013, 05:39:25 PM
Everything in this damn society is so politicized now.   No refuge from this bullshit anywhere.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: whork on February 23, 2013, 05:40:50 PM
More publicity for the tea party, whats the problem?


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 23, 2013, 05:48:20 PM
Everything in this damn society is so politicized now.   No refuge from this bullshit anywhere.

After Swagger and Colter's promos, Michael Cole and Jerry "The King" Lawler were suggesting that those two were getting lots of fan mail from Beck, Limbaugh, and Alex Jones.

As I said, WWE has done this before. JBL vs. Eddie Guererro, for example. There was a promo where JBL was actually chasing illegal aliens back across the border. And, he ended up with a gig on Fox News as a financial commentator.

Let's not forget that whole Gulf War thing with Sgt. Slaughter and Hulk Hogan.

Heck, back in 2008, Obama, Clinton, and McCain did promos for WWE, culminating with Hilary and Barack lookalikes, fighting in the ring (both got squashed by the late Umaga).



Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 23, 2013, 05:49:11 PM
More publicity for the tea party, whats the problem?

Other than that gibberish from Swagger and Colter, not being part of the Tea Party? Nothing!!

WWE needed a new villian to face Alberto Del Rio for his world title. So, they came up with this mess.

How ironic, because I thought the masses were for taxing the rich. Del Rio's heel character was that of a rich Mexican aristocrat, who looked down on people, flaunted his riches by driving a fancy car from his personal collection to the arena, and needed his own personal ring announcer to introduce him in Spanish(since the regular ring announcer was unworthy of such an honor).


Funny how there's no part in the storyline to tax more of Del Rio's money or take his cars from him.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: whork on February 23, 2013, 06:41:45 PM
Other than that gibberish from Swagger and Colter, not being part of the Tea Party? Nothing!!

WWE needed a new villian to face Alberto Del Rio for his world title. So, they came up with this mess.

How ironic, because I thought the masses were for taxing the rich. Del Rio's heel character was that of a rich Mexican aristocrat, who looked down on people, flaunted his riches by driving a fancy car from his personal collection to the arena, and needed his own personal ring announcer to introduce him in Spanish(since the regular ring announcer was unworthy of such an honor).


Funny how there's no part in the storyline to tax more of Del Rio's money or take his cars from him.

They come across as stupid and racist. Looks like tea party people.





Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 23, 2013, 06:54:21 PM
They come across as stupid and racist. Looks like tea party people.



Hardly!! Tea Party people don't care about your skin color or from where you came.



Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 23, 2013, 08:35:49 PM
Well, this may fizzle before it even get started.

Reports are that Swagger got arrrested for DUI and weed possession. He's on his way to court and word is that WWE may pull him from his WrestleMania spot, where he was supposed to be Del Rio for the World title.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 23, 2013, 08:51:26 PM
They come across as stupid and racist. Looks like tea party people.





FNG please - the Tea Party is about lower taxes and limited govt.  Tea Party would go for Dr. Cardin, Alan West, Star Parker, Mia Love, Sowell, Dr. Williams, Cain, Borelli, in a heartbeat over RINOs like boehner mcconnell et al


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 23, 2013, 09:08:44 PM
FNG please - the Tea Party is about lower taxes and limited govt.  Tea Party would go for Dr. Cardin, Alan West, Star Parker, Mia Love, Sowell, Dr. Williams, Cain, Borelli, in a heartbeat over RINOs like boehner mcconnell et al

If Swagger and Colter represent the Tea Party, Slick must represent all black people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQh4gYVXn0Q


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 23, 2013, 09:20:25 PM
If Swagger and Colter represent the Tea Party, Slick must represent all black people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQh4gYVXn0Q

I would crawl over broken glass for sowell and dr. williams. 

Dr. Cardin is going to take their place.   

borelli, mia love, et al are the stars of the future 


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 23, 2013, 09:41:45 PM
I would crawl over broken glass for sowell and dr. williams. 

Dr. Cardin is going to take their place.   

borelli, mia love, et al are the stars of the future 

Speaking of Mia Love, notice how all the vile hate mail she got after the GOP convention got relatively little press.

You want to see some racism, Whork, look up Mia Love, Deneen Borelli, Angela McGlowan, even Stacey Dash: Black people who have the audacity to vote Republican.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 23, 2013, 09:48:21 PM
Back to WWE and politics, there's another glaring example about which I forgot.

Remember Muhammad Hassan, and all the heat WWE got him, particularly for airing an episode of Smackdown where the Undertaker gets beat down and choked out by guys in masks and camoflague, shortly after that bombing in London?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd1gKx0F2Ik

This is the clip that basically cost Hassan his job. Imagine getting canned for playing your character too well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTugY2fYMv4

And, there's still the matter of what WWE will do with Swagger, due to his recent arrest. Does he get yanked out of WrestleMania? Does he get suspended until WrestleMania? Does he get fired altogether?


This pseudo-Tea Party angle was critical for his new character and for the buildup to the World title match at WrestleMania.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: whork on February 24, 2013, 07:37:03 AM
Back to WWE and politics, there's another glaring example about which I forgot.

Remember Muhammad Hassan, and all the heat WWE got him, particularly for airing an episode of Smackdown where the Undertaker gets beat down and choked out by guys in masks and camoflague, shortly after that bombing in London?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd1gKx0F2Ik

This is the clip that basically cost Hassan his job. Imagine getting canned for playing your character too well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTugY2fYMv4

And, there's still the matter of what WWE will do with Swagger, due to his recent arrest. Does he get yanked out of WrestleMania? Does he get suspended until WrestleMania? Does he get fired altogether?


This pseudo-Tea Party angle was critical for his new character and for the buildup to the World title match at WrestleMania.

He played that role/character great. He got fired?


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: chadstallion on February 24, 2013, 08:02:29 AM
Hardly!! Tea Party people don't care about your skin color or from where you came.


and thats why there were blacks all over the place during the tea baggers parades.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: tu_holmes on February 24, 2013, 08:17:32 AM
Hardly!! Tea Party people don't care about your skin color or from where you came.


FNG please - the Tea Party is about lower taxes and limited govt.  Tea Party would go for Dr. Cardin, Alan West, Star Parker, Mia Love, Sowell, Dr. Williams, Cain, Borelli, in a heartbeat over RINOs like boehner mcconnell et al

While the official "tea party" may in fact be that way, would you deny that in many of your more rural areas that it has been usurped by the extreme right, many of whom do not like people of color?

If it's about  taxing and spending, then why didn't the TEA party jump up and down when GWB was in office?

Where was there "Don't tread on me" shit when he was racking up a huge bill back then?

It certainly lends some credence to them having something racist going on... These were the same people who were pushing for Mitt Romney, even though he was going to increase tax revenue (somehow?) and increase military spending.

Is there something I have stated that is not factual?


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: blacken700 on February 24, 2013, 08:29:25 AM
While the official "tea party" may in fact be that way, would you deny that in many of your more rural areas that it has been usurped by the extreme right, many of whom do not like people of color?

If it's about  taxing and spending, then why didn't the TEA party jump up and down when GWB was in office?

Where was there "Don't tread on me" shit when he was racking up a huge bill back then?

It certainly lends some credence to them having something racist going on... These were the same people who were pushing for Mitt Romney, even though he was going to increase tax revenue (somehow?) and increase military spending.

Is there something I have stated that is not factual?



lets be real,it was because GWB wasn't black


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: Skip8282 on February 24, 2013, 08:32:07 AM
While the official "tea party" may in fact be that way, would you deny that in many of your more rural areas that it has been usurped by the extreme right, many of whom do not like people of color?

If it's about  taxing and spending, then why didn't the TEA party jump up and down when GWB was in office?

Where was there "Don't tread on me" shit when he was racking up a huge bill back then?

It certainly lends some credence to them having something racist going on... These were the same people who were pushing for Mitt Romney, even though he was going to increase tax revenue (somehow?) and increase military spending.

Is there something I have stated that is not factual?



I don't know how they feel about race, but I'd have to say most of your reasoning just doesn't add up.

Hell they were not even around until 2009 or so.  How could they possibly jump up and down GWB is beyond me.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: blacken700 on February 24, 2013, 08:38:54 AM


I don't know how they feel about race, but I'd have to say most of your reasoning just doesn't add up.

Hell they were not even around until 2009 or so.  How could they possibly jump up and down GWB is beyond me.

that's the point,why didn't they form when GWB was in office,wait,don't answer i think we know  :D :D


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: Skip8282 on February 24, 2013, 08:41:02 AM
that's the point,why didn't they form when GWB was in office,wait,don't answer i think we know  :D :D



So it's your claim that a bunch of racists magically came together when Barry was put into office and formed the Tea Party.

Good, solid, logical reasoning that we've come to expect from you.

Carry on.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 24, 2013, 08:44:10 AM
and thats why there were blacks all over the place during the tea baggers parades.

Who said there had to be blacks all over the place? That's not going to happen, because the Tea Party is about limited (lower) government, hardly attractive to a demographic who sees government as an equalizer.

I'm sure racists just love to invite folks like the niece of Dr. Martin Luther King to speak at their events.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: blacken700 on February 24, 2013, 08:45:25 AM
never said they were all racist,but i bet a majority are  :o


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 24, 2013, 08:55:26 AM
He played that role/character great. He got fired?

He probably got a severance package or WWE bought out his contract and sent him away. Hassan surpassed JBL and Triple H as the most HATED heel in the company, and that takes some doing.

Basically, Muslim PC groups like CAIR kept belly-aching about how Hassan stereotyped Muslims, even with promos to try and ramp that down like his confrontation with John Cena.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A41UqjjOcUM

When they moved Hassan to Smackdown, it got worse as UPN got slammed with yet more complaints. Airing that footage of his minions, beating down the Undertaker and carrying Daivairi out like a slain martyr (after that London bombing) was the proverbial backbreaker.

Hassan was barred from being on Smackdown. They wrote him off by changing the script for his number 1 Contender's match with the Undertaker at the Great American Bash, which Hassan was supposed to win. Instead, Undertaker won it and powerbombed Hassan off the stage, near the TitanTron. Hassan was hauled off in an ambulance and that the last we saw of him.

That also impacted the World title match. Batista was supposed to beat JBL clean, to set up Hassan vs. Batista for the title. Instead, JBL won by DQ. Onthe next Smackdown, JBL demanded a rematch, but Undertaker was the #1 contender. So, they fought in a no-disqualification match to determine who faced Batista for the title at SummerSlam. JBL won, via outside interference by Orton (still stinging over his loss to'Taker at WrestleMania 21).

Smackdown GM, Teddy Long, banned Hassan from Smackdown, saying he could go back to Raw (which he didn't); he could go back to where he came; but, as he was concerned, Hassan could go straight to hell.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 24, 2013, 08:57:47 AM


I don't know how they feel about race, but I'd have to say most of your reasoning just doesn't add up.

I think electing folks like Rubio, West, Cruz, Scott, Martinez, Haley, etc. and pushing candidates like Love, McGlowan, et. al. is a hint.



Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: Skip8282 on February 24, 2013, 09:06:25 AM
I think electing folks like Rubio, West, Cruz, Scott, Martinez, Haley, etc. and pushing candidates like Love, McGlowan, et. al. is a hint.






Yea, and some supported Cain as well.  And I don't recall any big support for Romney/Ryan.  In fact I would say they were fairly divided.

I'm just not seeing any basis for the racism claim - at least at an aggregate level.  I'm sure you could find it in any party at the individual level.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 24, 2013, 09:18:02 AM



Yea, and some supported Cain as well.  And I don't recall any big support for Romney/Ryan.  In fact I would say they were fairly divided.

I'm just not seeing any basis for the racism claim - at least at an aggregate level.  I'm sure you could find it in any party at the individual level.

Of course. Remember also that 3 million Republicans sat this one out. Romney got fewer voters than McCain did. If he at least matched McCain's tally, Romney would likely be in the Oval Office now.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: blacken700 on February 24, 2013, 09:40:48 AM
Of course. Remember also that 3 million Republicans sat this one out. Romney got fewer voters than McCain did. If he at least matched McCain's tally, Romney would likely be in the Oval Office now.


the party of would COULD OF, SHOULD OF, WOULD OF  :D


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 24, 2013, 09:47:25 AM

the party of would COULD OF, SHOULD OF, WOULD OF  :D

Mr. Speak-and-Spell strikes again.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: blacken700 on February 24, 2013, 10:13:16 AM

the party of would COULD OF, SHOULD OF, WOULD OF  :D


you lost get the fu#k over it  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 24, 2013, 10:17:03 AM

you lost get the fu#k over it  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I'm long over it! I mentioned it, only in respect to my conversation with Skip.

While you're here, O spineless one, try checking out what Beck ACTUALLY said, rather than wallow in your boneheaded accusations of what you and WWE THINK he said.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: whork on February 24, 2013, 10:49:03 AM
He probably got a severance package or WWE bought out his contract and sent him away. Hassan surpassed JBL and Triple H as the most HATED heel in the company, and that takes some doing.

Basically, Muslim PC groups like CAIR kept belly-aching about how Hassan stereotyped Muslims, even with promos to try and ramp that down like his confrontation with John Cena.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A41UqjjOcUM

When they moved Hassan to Smackdown, it got worse as UPN got slammed with yet more complaints. Airing that footage of his minions, beating down the Undertaker and carrying Daivairi out like a slain martyr (after that London bombing) was the proverbial backbreaker.

Hassan was barred from being on Smackdown. They wrote him off by changing the script for his number 1 Contender's match with the Undertaker at the Great American Bash, which Hassan was supposed to win. Instead, Undertaker won it and powerbombed Hassan off the stage, near the TitanTron. Hassan was hauled off in an ambulance and that the last we saw of him.

That also impacted the World title match. Batista was supposed to be JBL clean, to set up Hassan vs. Batista for the title. Instead, JBL won by DQ. Onthe next Smackdown, JBL demanded a rematch, but Undertaker was the #1 contender. So, they fought in a no-disqualification match to determine who faced Batista for the title at SummerSlam. JBL won, via outside interference by Orton (still stinging over his loss to'Taker at WrestleMania 21).

Smackdown GM, Teddy Long, banned Hassan from Smackdown, saying he could go back to Raw (which he didn't); he could go back to where he came; but, as he was concerned, Hassan could go straight to hell.


Thanks.

BS move from WWE.

You said it, getting fired for being great at your job.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: andreisdaman on February 24, 2013, 11:02:28 AM
Hardly!! Tea Party people don't care about your skin color or from where you came.



now I know you are REALLY out of your mind


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 24, 2013, 11:27:57 AM
now I know you are REALLY out of your mind

Then explain how these folks became Tea Party candidates:

Rubio, West, Cruz, Scott, Martinez, Haley, Love, McGlowan, et. al.

Apparently you also can't tell the difference between LEGAL immigration and illegal immigration, the latter with which the Tea Party has a problem.



Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: tu_holmes on February 24, 2013, 11:30:21 AM


So it's your claim that a bunch of racists magically came together when Barry was put into office and formed the Tea Party.

Good, solid, logical reasoning that we've come to expect from you.

Carry on.

I do not believe that it was created to be racist... but I do believe racists have permeated the party.

It still doesn't make any sense as to why these people who decided that spending was out of control waited until Obama took office.

There is a definitely circumstantial evidence of race being a factor.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 24, 2013, 11:36:37 AM
I do not believe that it was created to be racist... but I do believe racists have permeated the party.

It still doesn't make any sense as to why these people who decided that spending was out of control waited until Obama took office.

There is a definitely circumstantial evidence of race being a factor.

Circumstantial evidence, at best.....

The stimulus and ObamaCare played a role in the Tea Party's emergence.





Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: tu_holmes on February 24, 2013, 11:37:29 AM
Circumstantial evidence, at best.....

The stimulus and ObamaCare played a role in the Tea Party's emergence.





I believe I stated circumstantial.... However, many people have been found guilty of crimes based on circumstantial evidence.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 24, 2013, 11:38:32 AM
Thanks.

BS move from WWE.

You said it, getting fired for being great at your job.

Well, back to the topic at hand, Swagger might get whacked for totally unrelated reasons. Rumors are flying as to whether he will remain in the Smackdown main-event match at WrestleMania with Alberto Del Rio for the World title, after his recent DUI/weed possession arrest.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: tu_holmes on February 24, 2013, 11:39:36 AM
Well, back to the topic at hand, Swagger might get whacked for totally unrelated reasons. Rumors are flying as to whether he will remain in the Smackdown main-event match at WrestleMania with Alberto Del Rio for the World title, after his recent DUI/weed possession arrest.
Wouldn't be the first time that this has happened.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 24, 2013, 11:50:01 AM
Wouldn't be the first time that this has happened.


The last time I recall such occuring was WrestleMania 24. Jeff Hardy got suspended shortly before the big event in Orlando. He was supposed to win the "Money in the Bank" match and eventually either the WWE or World title, as a result.

Rather than replace him, WWE just left 7 guys in the match, instead of 8, and let CM Punk get the win (he won the World title just three months later).


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: whork on February 24, 2013, 01:29:47 PM
Well, back to the topic at hand, Swagger might get whacked for totally unrelated reasons. Rumors are flying as to whether he will remain in the Smackdown main-event match at WrestleMania with Alberto Del Rio for the World title, after his recent DUI/weed possession arrest.

Weed can be a life saver in rush hour.

If i ever kill anyone its probably during this time.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: andreisdaman on February 24, 2013, 03:55:06 PM
Then explain how these folks became Tea Party candidates:

Rubio, West, Cruz, Scott, Martinez, Haley, Love, McGlowan, et. al.

Apparently you also can't tell the difference between LEGAL immigration and illegal immigration, the latter with which the Tea Party has a problem.



Because they will agree with any minority that agrees with them,,thats not proof that they are not covert racists.... ;)


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: andreisdaman on February 24, 2013, 03:56:21 PM
I do not believe that it was created to be racist... but I do believe racists have permeated the party.

It still doesn't make any sense as to why these people who decided that spending was out of control waited until Obama took office.

There is a definitely circumstantial evidence of race being a factor.



This is the best post you have ever made....good job! :)


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 24, 2013, 04:04:25 PM
Weed can be a life saver in rush hour.

If i ever kill anyone its probably during this time.

You don't live in New York or California, by chance?  ;D

Swagger got pulled over to the side and arrested, late at night, after the Smackdown taping in Mississippi.



Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 24, 2013, 04:09:18 PM
The last time I recall such occuring was WrestleMania 24. Jeff Hardy got suspended shortly before the big event in Orlando. He was supposed to win the "Money in the Bank" match and eventually either the WWE or World title, as a result.

Rather than replace him, WWE just left 7 guys in the match, instead of 8, and let CM Punk get the win (he won the World title just three months later).

I take that back. There was an earlier incident, about which I forgot at the time I posted this. The Great Khali got popped and had to sit out his "Punjabi Prison" match with the Undertaker at The Great American Bash 2006.

They basically had Khali looking for the Undertaker. Taker found him first and started beating on him, when Big Show entered the fray. Teddy Long confronted the two and angrily told Big Show that he was replacing Khali in that match.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: Skip8282 on February 24, 2013, 04:51:08 PM
I do not believe that it was created to be racist... but I do believe racists have permeated the party.

It still doesn't make any sense as to why these people who decided that spending was out of control waited until Obama took office.

There is a definitely circumstantial evidence of race being a factor.




To me, the timing and evidence suggests that it was Bush's final year of record spending that drove the movement.

Keep in mind the movement is very loosely organized.  Just about anybody can form a group and call themselves part of the 'Tea Party' movement.

Trying to place them all or mostly under single moniker like 'racism' just doesn't fly in my opinion.

And, it makes it difficult to define who/what Tea Party is as well.



Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: Skip8282 on February 24, 2013, 04:52:11 PM
Because they will agree with any minority that agrees with them,,thats not proof that they are not covert racists.... ;)




Yeah...you libs love the Uncle Tom argument.  Until it comes to one of your own being racist like Harry Reid.

Then it doesn't count.  ::)


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: andreisdaman on February 24, 2013, 05:40:06 PM



Yeah...you libs love the Uncle Tom argument.  Until it comes to one of your own being racist like Harry Reid.

Then it doesn't count.  ::)

come on...there is an element of racism in the Tea Party....I'm not saying that the party was founded by racists..I'm saying that a lot of people with racist intentions have gravitated to the party because it is the nearest thing that resembles their personal ideology  Don't always place everything in lib/repub terms


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: tu_holmes on February 24, 2013, 09:05:15 PM

This is the best post you have ever made....good job! :)

First of all, if you think it's my "best post", then you haven't been paying attention. You are just happy that I'm busting some white people out.




To me, the timing and evidence suggests that it was Bush's final year of record spending that drove the movement.

Keep in mind the movement is very loosely organized.  Just about anybody can form a group and call themselves part of the 'Tea Party' movement.

Trying to place them all or mostly under single moniker like 'racism' just doesn't fly in my opinion.

And, it makes it difficult to define who/what Tea Party is as well.



I do not disagree with this at all... Part of the problem as I've stated is that the Tea Party certainly may have started out as a very normal organization that was just tired of the extreme spending especially considering the financial meltdown that took place in late 2008.

Anyone can join in with the "TEA Party" and in some instances, racist white people jumped on board... That's just the way it went.

I do not believe every TEA party member is a white racist, just like I don't believe every democrat is a black racist, but they are still there and they are part of those organizations.



Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: andreisdaman on February 24, 2013, 09:34:37 PM
First of all, if you think it's my "best post", then you haven't been paying attention. You are just happy that I'm busting some white people out.

I do not disagree with this at all... Part of the problem as I've stated is that the Tea Party certainly may have started out as a very normal organization that was just tired of the extreme spending especially considering the financial meltdown that took place in late 2008.

Anyone can join in with the "TEA Party" and in some instances, racist white people jumped on board... That's just the way it went.

I do not believe every TEA party member is a white racist, just like I don't believe every democrat is a black racist, but they are still there and they are part of those organizations.



wow I guess some guys can't take a compliment without getting their panties in a snit.....as for your comment that I was happy that you are bursting on white people, why exactly would that make me happy?...I have nothing against white people...but I, like you, say that there are white racists in the tea party as there are surely black racists in the left wing of the democratic party....

you arguing with me aint gonna change that fact


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: tu_holmes on February 24, 2013, 11:12:21 PM
wow I guess some guys can't take a compliment without getting their panties in a snit.....as for your comment that I was happy that you are bursting on white people, why exactly would that make me happy?...I have nothing against white people...but I, like you, say that there are white racists in the tea party as there are surely black racists in the left wing of the democratic party....

you arguing with me aint gonna change that fact

It's just not my best post... that's all there is to it.

Don't get it twisted... I am not upset by the statement, I'm just saying that I typically am very balanced when it comes to my opinion and I can't believe that THIS is what you think it is my best post out of almost 14K.

Seems that you're happy because I'm putting some white people on blast... Don't forget... That's 1/2 of my family.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: whork on February 25, 2013, 04:32:30 AM
You don't live in New York or California, by chance?  ;D

Swagger got pulled over to the side and arrested, late at night, after the Smackdown taping in Mississippi.



Nope i live in Denmark :)

I actually like to work late just to avoid rush hour. At least at work i make money instead of sitting in my old car going practically nowhere. And there is always some idiots usually old people or woman who are afraid to drive and choke the traffic.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: andreisdaman on February 25, 2013, 05:54:00 AM
It's just not my best post... that's all there is to it.

Don't get it twisted... I am not upset by the statement, I'm just saying that I typically am very balanced when it comes to my opinion and I can't believe that THIS is what you think it is my best post out of almost 14K.

Seems that you're happy because I'm putting some white people on blast... Don't forget... That's 1/2 of my family.

I don't have any idea what your persuasion is....whether you are black, white, spanish, Asian, etc....I have nothing against whites or anyone else....my girlfriend is white....I complimented you on saying that the Tea Party has racists permeating the Party....and being honest enough to say that....thats all....as for your 14K posts, obviously I don't get to see all of them....just commented on that particular one based upon all that I have seen....accept that and move on


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 25, 2013, 10:39:16 AM
Nope i live in Denmark :)

I actually like to work late just to avoid rush hour. At least at work i make money instead of sitting in my old car going practically nowhere. And there is always some idiots usually old people or woman who are afraid to drive and choke the traffic.

OUCH!!

BTW - Tonight's RAW should be interesting. One, we have the Cena-Punk match, with Cena's title shot he won at the Rumble on the line.


Two, and perhaps more controversial, we get to see what WWE is going to do with Swagger, whether or not he keeps his World title match against Del Rio at WrestleMania. If there's a match where his title shot is on the line, as Cena's WWE title shot is, Swagger is going to get yanked.




Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: whork on February 25, 2013, 11:21:30 AM
OUCH!!

BTW - Tonight's RAW should be interesting. One, we have the Cena-Punk match, with Cena's title shot he won at the Rumble on the line.


Two, and perhaps more controversial, we get to see what WWE is going to do with Swagger, whether or not he keeps his World title match against Del Rio at WrestleMania. If there's a match where his title shot is on the line, as Cena's WWE title shot is, Swagger is going to get yanked.




Im pretty sure all the characters is cleared with writers and the top so if they kick Swagger out it would be a dick move.

Who knows maybe the Glenn Bech press will boost the ratings.


Title: Re: Glenn Beck and WWE spar over Jack Swagger's new character makeover
Post by: MCWAY on February 25, 2013, 11:26:36 AM
Im pretty sure all the characters is cleared with writers and the top so if they kick Swagger out it would be a dick move.

Who knows maybe the Glenn Bech press will boost the ratings.

I think it has more to do with Swagger and WWE's wellness policy, than the pseudo-Tea-Party angle he's doing.

Swagger may get "injured", ala Rey Mysterio, who has had his arm "broken" multiple times by Del Rio after getting popped on a drug test.