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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Parker on March 05, 2013, 03:02:51 PM
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Meaning who had the best shape, size, conditioning? Was it Coleman 2001, Flex 1993 or 98? Levrone 94 or 96, Francois in 95, Shawn Ray or Ashley? Dex, Vic, Kai, Cutler, or even Nasser?
No mention of Branch.
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Of course Flex wheeler.
Hard to compete with this:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/dalilpimp/Bodybuilding/93-Arnold-Classic-21.jpg)
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Flex 1993
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dex back does not come close to flex
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Flex 93
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A toss up between Ronnie and Flex, followed by Levrone 96, Phil then Dex then Vic then Kai
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these three are up there for best in one show
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these three are up there for best in one show
If these three are the best, and I will add Francois '95, then should Arnold stipulate that at his show, that the judging should follow the Rulebook to emphasize these physiques? Because let's face it---Flex 93, Levrone 96, Francois 95, Ronnie 2001, all exemplify what the IFBB Rulebook dictates.
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Ronnie's gut in 01 DQs him.
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these three are up there for best in one show
Kevin getting shit on pretty hard there
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If these three are the best, and I will add Francois '95, then should Arnold stipulate that at his show, that the judging should follow the Rulebook to emphasize these physiques? Because let's face it---Flex 93, Levrone 96, Francois 95, Ronnie 2001, all exemplify what the IFBB Rulebook dictates.
They are not going to admit they are not following the rules, every judge thinks he is, hello lol
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Ronnie's gut in 01 DQs him.
and Flex's bee-stung delts in 2000 don't?
They are not going to admit they are not following the rules, every judge thinks he is, hello lol
Who'd win, Arnold or the judges and Manion?
It is because of Arnold that prize money at the O was jacked up, and it is because of Arnold that almost everybody competing and judging are in bodybuilding---due to him influencing them. And every magazine trots out their Arnold specials, because they get bought the most.
I think time is ticking for many of these judges and The Manions. Time to clean house.
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and Flex's bee-stung delts in 2000 don't?Who'd win, Arnold or the judges and Manion?
It is because of Arnold that prize money at the O was jacked up, and it is because of Arnold that almost everybody competing and judging are in bodybuilding---due to him influencing them. And every magazine trots out their Arnold specials, because they get bought the most.
I think time is ticking for many of these judges and The Manions. Time to clean house.
You are missing my point; You are making it sound like they know they are not going by the rules and Arnold will say '' start following the rules'' No bro, the judges are not thinking they are ''not following'' the rules, they will look at Arnold and say'' what are you talking about, we are following the rules'' obvious to us but not to them.
You think Arnold is going to sit there and explain to them what they are doing wrong, trust me the judges do their best, it is not as easy as it looks, everyone on getbig has the answers, there is no solution, whatever the direction they choice will displease a crowd somewhere as everyone has different preferences and most here do not have a clue how different it is live, looking at a 3 dimensional physique so implementing a change based on the preference of some peoples opinion looking at a picture that do not even tell the real story is a horrible idea.
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(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/1995_arnold_classic_review_c.jpg)
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(http://www.flexonline.com/sites/flexonline.com/files/images/fl/209390/3613.jpg)
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^i get what you saying, I guess I am just thinking out loud...
But, I don't want to derail the thread (detailing one's own thread).
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/1995_arnold_classic_review_c.jpg)
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/xM6uOtSkzdI/0.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/sites/flexonline.com/files/images/fl/209390/3613.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/1995_arnold_classic_review_c.jpg)
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/xM6uOtSkzdI/0.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/sites/flexonline.com/files/images/fl/209390/3613.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/1995_arnold_classic_review_c.jpg)
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/xM6uOtSkzdI/0.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/sites/flexonline.com/files/images/fl/209390/3613.jpg)
Mike Francois was in better condition than Flex.
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Francois crushing people in this thread.
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Flex by a mile is way better symmetrical and shape , Probably is the best ASC winner of all time , Branch is bottom of the barrel
^i get what you saying, I guess I am just thinking out loud...
But, I don't want to derail the thread (detailing one's own thread).Mike Francois was in better condition than Flex.
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Flex by a mile is way better symmetrical and shape , Probably is the best ASC winner of all time , Branch is bottom of the barrel
I agree, but his conditioning wasn't as sharp, Francois was dryer from the rear. Lee Haney said he thought Flex should have won, because of his shape. And that Francois was too blocky. At first I agreed with him, but as I looked at the pics, it could have gone either way, but I think Francois was better conditioned
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Where does this 2x Champ rank???
(http://fabodylous.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Branch-Warren-Arnold-Classic-2012-Results.jpg)
(http://fabodylous.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Branch-Warren-Arnold-Classic-2012.jpg)
(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9465&stc=1&d=1267940975)
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/7892/2/d/img_23161236465276.jpg)
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(http://www.flexonline.com/sites/flexonline.com/files/images/fl/209390/3613.jpg) mike has the best back here
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Meaning who had the best shape, size, conditioning? Was it Coleman 2001, Flex 1993 or 98? Levrone 94 or 96, Francois in 95, Shawn Ray or Ashley? Dex, Vic, Kai, Cutler, or even Nasser?
No mention of Branch.
Flex 98, sorry don't have a picture!
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its either ronnie 01 or Nasser 99
no one has displayed such ripped conditioning, mass and symmetry as Nasser in 99 and ronnie in 01
Flex's condition 93 (his best condition ever) was also up there but he just didnt have the size that year
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Meaning who had the best shape, size, conditioning? Was it Coleman 2001, Flex 1993 or 98? Levrone 94 or 96, Francois in 95, Shawn Ray or Ashley? Dex, Vic, Kai, Cutler, or even Nasser?
No mention of Branch.
Flex
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Flex 98, sorry don't have a picture!
;)
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its either ronnie 01 or Nasser 99
no one has displayed such ripped conditioning, mass and symmetry as Nasser in 99 and ronnie in 01
Flex's condition 93 (his best condition ever) was also up there but he just didnt have the size that year
LMMFAO Nasser better than Francios or Flex
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I agree, but his conditioning wasn't as sharp, Francois was dryer from the rear. Lee Haney said he thought Flex should have won, because of his shape. And that Francois was too blocky. At first I agreed with him, but as I looked at the pics, it could have gone either way, but I think Francois was better conditioned
He never said blocky , I corrected you on this before he said Fancois was to ' lumpy ' compared to Flex , Mike owned Flex at this contest
Mike wasn't blocky
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Flex Wheeler
Getting robbed in 1996
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-92sEVYcdzrQ/UIygO0aj5_I/AAAAAAAAKKA/l4eIwTY3-zc/s1600/franc57.jpg)
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Flex Wheeler
Getting robbed in 1996
I thought Flex looked better at this contest
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251879.0;attach=292931;image)
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(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ls1UQ__87Kk/R_j0Ix3eVmI/AAAAAAAAALI/J6SCI9gyIqQ/s400/1995-mr-olympia-77.jpg)
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(http://gallery.steelfactor.ru/albums/fadhli_amy/fadhli_amy_150.jpg)
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I thought Flex looked better at this contest
He looked great , biggest robbery in bodybuilding history .
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(http://forum.spam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3748&stc=1&d=1178006763)
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Cormier in 2004 got robbed ....
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???
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http://forum. bodybuildingpro . com
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Probably the worst comparison possible for the Fridge...smh
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Mike Francois was gay, but not that blocky, not as tapered as Flex but not as blocky as Gutler
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these three are up there for best in one show
shit, we need Top Tier guys like this in the ASC.....something need to be done to get this show back to what it used to be
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Man they shit on todays guys.
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Flex Wheeler
Getting LevrOWNED in 1996
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He looked great , biggest robbery in bodybuilding history .
All those guys with the exception of Dillet would beat Heath
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He sure did!
But according to "mcway" jay deserved every win and was better ::)
Won't be surprised if he thinks jay is the best AC champ of all time
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A toss up between Ronnie and Flex, followed by Levrone 96, Phil then Dex then Vic then Kai
Phil never won the AC.
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'93 Wheeler. He never looked that good again.
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(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mG-_i56Rlnw/T8tIen1zH1I/AAAAAAAADIQ/01pgyJLtb08/s1600/16252_201569707443_122788722443_3187953_510276_n.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-A5Z_Y__vy7Q/UMdAyVEudfI/AAAAAAAAN4I/8e7BnmL3OEM/s1600/ronnie+coleman+%25281%2529.jpg)
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(http://s116.beta.photobucket.com/user/arce97/media/Andreas_Munzer_photo43.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0)
http://s116.beta.photobucket.com/user/arce97/media/Andreas_Munzer_photo43.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
Click on this link to see Flex
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He sure did!
But according to "mcway" jay deserved every win and was better ::)
Won't be surprised if he thinks jay is the best AC champ of all time
Just when I think you can't spout any more silliness, you up the ante.
AT NO TIME did I claim that Cutler deserved every win.
And, no, I don't think Jay is the greatest ASC champ of them all. I'd give that to Flex Wheeler, particularly in 1998.
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Ronnie 2001.
if flex 93 had lats/width glutes and hams, then yes.
but then he would have been the greatest ever of all time.
but he wasn't.
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He never said blocky , I corrected you on this before he said Fancois was to ' lumpy ' compared to Flex , Mike owned Flex at this contest
Mike wasn't blocky
You are correct.
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love how you all pic the best possible single comparisons to try to back up your opinions.
francois was blocky... flex wasnt perfect...
flex looked awesome from certain angles, and got smashed in others.
francois dominated in certain poses.
but this is BB.. its judged on a number of poses...
AND, implants shouldnt count....ray lost his trophy because of drug testing..flex shouldve lost his cos of fake calves...
flex was the best ASC BB from shoulders up... no doubt...
shoulders down though?.. nope.
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Probably the worst comparison possible for the Fridge...smh
Jay looks like absolute shit in that shot and even worse when compared to Cormier.
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and Flex's bee-stung delts in 2000 don't?Who'd win, Arnold or the judges and Manion?
It is because of Arnold that prize money at the O was jacked up, and it is because of Arnold that almost everybody competing and judging are in bodybuilding---due to him influencing them. And every magazine trots out their Arnold specials, because they get bought the most.
I think time is ticking for many of these judges and The Manions. Time to clean house.
That's why I said 93 Flex. And BTW, everyone harping on SEOs. Flex, Kevin, Paul and most of these guys used esiclene. While different that synthol and PMMA it's still the same for what it's supposed to do it's just not permanent. if they can do it and get away with it without it taking away from their physique, more power to them but most can't.
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Where does this 2x Champ rank???
(http://fabodylous.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Branch-Warren-Arnold-Classic-2012-Results.jpg)
(http://fabodylous.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Branch-Warren-Arnold-Classic-2012.jpg)
(http://forum.spam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9465&stc=1&d=1267940975)
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/7892/2/d/img_23161236465276.jpg)
thats fucking awful
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Probably the worst comparison possible for the Fridge...smh
Chris demolished him in this ab thigh...
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:o
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Good teeth.
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That's why I said 93 Flex. And BTW, everyone harping on SEOs. Flex, Kevin, Paul and most of these guys used esiclene. While different that synthol and PMMA it's still the same for what it's supposed to do it's just not permanent. if they can do it and get away with it without it taking away from their physique, more power to them but most can't.
This ^^^ if people do not notice, who cares
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The 93 Flex AC win is like Top 3 best ever showings. Ronnie at Brit Grand Prix and Dorian in that home video at the gym are the other two.