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Title: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on March 13, 2013, 11:06:32 AM
 ;D it ain't looking too good for the phightin phillies this year, roy halladay got lit up in a major way yesterday . i know it's pre-season but this was against detroit tiger scrubs. he only hit 86-88 mph on the gun, he better take jamie moyer lessons in a hurry. the good news is he felt good after the diasterous outing.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on March 13, 2013, 11:08:20 AM
Detroit looks strong.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on March 15, 2013, 10:46:51 AM
albert pujols knee causing angels worries considering the amount owed on his contract.quaranteed salaries can be a bitch. ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on March 15, 2013, 10:53:26 AM
albert pujols knee causing angels worries considering the amount owed on his contract.quaranteed salaries can be a bitch. ::) ::) ::)

That and potentially having to carry Josh Hamilton out of a gutter at any given moment over the remaining 5 years.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: blinky on April 01, 2013, 08:41:07 PM
lots of great moves by the Blue Jays....lets see if they mesh and do what they're expected to this season


GO JAYS


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on April 02, 2013, 09:36:01 AM
astros win first game. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2013, 09:47:34 AM
astros win first game. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Disgrace of a franchise.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on April 02, 2013, 12:19:18 PM
Disgrace of a franchise.
truer words were never spoken, this team would hardly be competive in triple a. ed wade destroyed this franchise with the help of others. long gone are the days of the killer "B's"


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on April 11, 2013, 12:29:24 PM
braves 8-1 great start for a team not afraid to go young or putting their farm system to good use. chipper who?


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on April 11, 2013, 03:47:53 PM
Small sample of course, but Toronto's big acquisitions are having a tough transition to the AL so far.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: blinky on April 11, 2013, 04:49:42 PM
Small sample of course, but Toronto's big acquisitions are having a tough transition to the AL so far.

ya not good so far.
i said from day 1 of their aquisitions, you can have all the talent in the world on one team....but unless they smesh and play well together(and yes adjust to new league) it just doesnt matter . Its only been 9 games so we'll see if they get it worked out.

im really enjoying watching Reyes play


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on April 11, 2013, 05:00:39 PM
ya not good so far.
i said from day 1 of their aquisitions, you can have all the talent in the world on one team....but unless they smesh and play well together(and yes adjust to new league) it just doesnt matter . Its only been 9 games so we'll see if they get it worked out.

im really enjoying watching Reyes play

Reyes has been awesome.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on April 12, 2013, 07:35:17 AM
dodgers vs padres last night a little basebrawl. greinke injured?


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on April 12, 2013, 08:24:52 AM
dodgers vs padres last night a little basebrawl. greinke injured?
quentin is an asshole count was 3 and 2 no way it was intentional....


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on April 12, 2013, 11:56:43 AM
Yeah, and I lost Greinke on my FBB team.   Idiot.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: blinky on April 12, 2013, 06:57:37 PM
Reyes has been awesome.

everything about that guy is awesome. always a big smile, great at the plate, great glove, GREAT speed


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: blinky on April 12, 2013, 06:59:10 PM
quentin is an asshole count was 3 and 2 no way it was intentional....

Yeah, and I lost Greinke on my FBB team.   Idiot.

brutal move by Quentin...suspension??

gotta feel bad for the dodgers and greinke


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on April 12, 2013, 07:40:24 PM
6 games, guessing.    Should be more.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on April 13, 2013, 11:02:00 AM
6 games, guessing.    Should be more.
i think it was like 8. phillies now 5-5 there's hope for the only team to beat the braves this season now 9-1. ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: blinky on April 13, 2013, 03:58:00 PM
Reyes has been awesome.

Well fuk....out for 3 months  :'(


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on April 14, 2013, 08:03:47 AM
braves 10-1 will clinch by july at this rate. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on April 14, 2013, 01:10:56 PM
braves 10-1 will clinch by july at this rate. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
roy halladay finally gets his 200 victory 109 pitcher to reach this milestone.braves 11-1.upton hits number 7 hr


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on April 17, 2013, 11:10:32 AM
braves 12-1 . phillies vs reds  double two hitters suspended game in the ninth will be played today.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on April 18, 2013, 07:38:00 AM
braves 12-1 . phillies vs reds  double two hitters suspended game in the ninth will be played today.
braves now 12-2  finally lost after winning 10 straight 5 team in mlb history to have a 10 game winning streak during first 13 games of season. phillies lose 2 in one day.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on April 19, 2013, 12:58:14 PM
braves 13-2 justin upton 9 homers in 15 games. phils lose again but at least it was closer 4-3. 13 hits=3 lousey runs.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on April 22, 2013, 10:28:31 AM
braves coming back to earth now 13-5. chase utley sleepwalking through the last two games.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: tu_holmes on April 22, 2013, 10:29:54 AM
braves coming back to earth now 13-5. chase utley sleepwalking through the last two games.

Slump was bound to happen. I still expect their pitching will crush pretty much everything in the NL when it's all over if they stay healthy.



Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on April 23, 2013, 07:53:29 AM
Slump was bound to happen. I still expect their pitching will crush pretty much everything in the NL when it's all over if they stay healthy.


as a lifelong phillie fan , i'm not real big on the braves, but you have to admire the organization they do stuff the right way. not afraid to use their farm system. a lot of homegrowns have made it down thru the years.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on May 01, 2013, 10:33:40 AM
phils lose to indians 14-2 what a drubbing 7 hrs by the tribe. roy halladay looked like he was throwing batting practice the way they were teeing off. :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on May 01, 2013, 11:05:32 AM
Funk - call it a hunch, but Utley could be on the Yankees this year.  Fits the bill.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on May 01, 2013, 11:34:02 AM
That and potentially having to carry Josh Hamilton out of a gutter at any given moment over the remaining 5 years.

God damn I am good.  8)

The Angels new Nightmare middle of the lineup! Hahaha!  :D


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on May 02, 2013, 08:02:04 AM
Funk - call it a hunch, but Utley could be on the Yankees this year.  Fits the bill.
good call this would not surprise me. phillies will probably be dumping big money contracts soon.attendance has dropped from all sellouts 43 k plus to the  mid 30k's .


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: JediTerminator on May 03, 2013, 08:52:04 AM
Jays are gonna be the biggest disappointment this season


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on May 03, 2013, 01:21:41 PM
Jays are gonna be the biggest disappointment this season
angels and dodgers might be right there with them. ;D


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: JediTerminator on May 03, 2013, 01:40:09 PM
Jays made those trades and built them up. I don't think they've even won a series yet this year. Getting their asses kicked by divisional opponents.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: King Shizzo on May 05, 2013, 02:18:21 PM
Thats partly because Dickey blows, and Reyes got hurt.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on May 05, 2013, 02:33:38 PM
phillies getting blown out big time 12-0 after losing the previous day 2-0. ::)to the marlins no less...... :o :o :o


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on May 05, 2013, 05:42:49 PM
Texas sweeps The Red Sox in 3 games and have just taken the top position in the ESPN Power Rankings. Best team in baseball right now, bar none.

They should be getting Colby Lewis and Martin Perez back from injuries within a week or so but no idea how they are going to fit into the pitching rotation since the young guys have stepped up but that's the problem you love to have!



Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on May 05, 2013, 08:26:49 PM
Wish Texas would call up Profar.   Dervish is looking to be well worth the risk.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on May 05, 2013, 09:30:56 PM
Wish Texas would call up Profar.   Dervish is looking to be well worth the risk.

Would be nice but no place to put him right now with Kinsler killing the ball at 2nd and Andrus at SS

Darvish, 127 pitches with 14 strikeouts today plus most strikeouts in baseball is nice too . 8)


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on May 06, 2013, 01:17:43 PM
Would be nice but no place to put him right now with Kinsler killing the ball at 2nd and Andrus at SS

Darvish, 127 pitches with 14 strikeouts today plus most strikeouts in baseball is nice too . 8)
texas is not afraid to let a pitcher's pitch count get up above the norm, due mainly to nolan ryan's influence. nolan once threw 235 pitches in a game and look how long he lasted.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: CalvinH on May 10, 2013, 07:39:33 AM
Yanks in first.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on May 10, 2013, 08:12:36 AM
Yankees also have Granderson returning next week.  Hoping they keep Wells in the lineup, and move Ichiro! to the bench.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on May 10, 2013, 10:19:26 AM
Yanks in first.
three way tie for first.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on May 10, 2013, 11:40:53 AM
three way tie for first.

With the Orioles, mind you.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on May 10, 2013, 11:44:40 AM
texas is not afraid to let a pitcher's pitch count get up above the norm, due mainly to nolan ryan's influence. nolan once threw 235 pitches in a game and look how long he lasted.

Exactly. Jon Daniels deserves credit for bringing in the overall talent but Nolan Ryan was definitely the biggest factor in changing the pitching culture by making it an expectation for starters to pitch deep in games.

235 pitches...fucking insane.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on May 10, 2013, 04:19:05 PM
With the Orioles, mind you.

meh.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on May 12, 2013, 09:12:03 AM
Justin Verlander vs. Yu Darvish this upcoming Thursday. Should be a great pitching duel.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on May 15, 2013, 10:47:42 AM
at 10.14 am est the phillies picked up carlos zambrano a 11 year vet pitcher. hard to believe this hot head is only 31 years old. ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on May 15, 2013, 11:32:15 AM
at 10.14 am est the phillies picked up carlos zambrano a 11 year vet pitcher. hard to believe this hot head is only 31 years old. ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ::)
phillies getting hammered 5-1 in the 5 th as we speak .they pulled to within 3 and a half games of the braves, but hollywood hamels is stinking it up again 20 mikkion a year for soon to be 1-6 record.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on May 20, 2013, 01:01:20 PM
big game for phils yesterday, getting shutout whole game 2-0 by homer bailey two homeruns in ninth inning off of a. chapman and phils are 21-23 with three games against the marlins starting today monday.this after elmer fudd aka charlie manual puts cliff lee in to pinch run and he promptly gets picked off in front of kratz's homerun. ::) ::) ::)took freddie galvis to hit a back to back to win game. note to charlie manual john mayberry was available to pinch run. use a position player next time. ::) ::)


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on May 20, 2013, 01:03:21 PM
big game for phils yesterday, getting shutout whole game 2-0 by homer bailey two homeruns in ninth inning off of a. chapman and phils are 21-23 with three games against the marlins starting today monday.this after elmer fudd aka charlie manual puts cliff lee in to pinch run and he promptly gets picked off in front of kratz's homerun. ::) ::) ::)took freddie galvis to hit a back to back to win game. note to charlie manual john mayberry was available to pinch run. use a position player next time. ::) ::)
forgot to mention i was one of the 41,009 at the game.and no i did not get excited when ruiz grasped his hamstring and had to be removed, looks like he was juiced last year, i'm just saying. :( >:(


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on May 20, 2013, 01:50:07 PM
Texas Rangers win 3 out 4 versus the defending AL Champs Detroit Tigers. Still have the best record in baseball with 60% of last years starting pitching staff injured(young pitchers stepping up in their place) and just called up MLBs number one prospect, Jurikson Profar. Deepest organization in baseball.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on May 20, 2013, 02:18:23 PM
I used a FBB draft pick on Mr. Profar and have been waiting for this.  Of course, I didn't start him this week, but plan to if he stays up.

Outside of Darvish, we'll have to see if the SP holds up.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: King Shizzo on May 20, 2013, 02:33:38 PM
Texas Rangers win 3 out 4 versus the defending AL Champs Detroit Tigers. Still have the best record in baseball with 60% of last years starting pitching staff injured(young pitchers stepping up in their place) and just called up MLBs number one prospect, Jurikson Profar. Deepest organization in baseball.
Just proves that one guy (Hamilton) does not make a team.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on May 20, 2013, 02:38:12 PM
I used a FBB draft pick on Mr. Profar and have been waiting for this.  Of course, I didn't start him this week, but plan to if he stays up.

Outside of Darvish, we'll have to see if the SP holds up.


Outside of a super utility role I just don't see how Profar stays up for any extended period of time unless he just comes in and forces himself to stay by playing incredible. Washington has already stated he wants Profar getting regular at bats and with Kinsler on only a 15 day DL batting .302 and playing at a very high level coupled with 1st baseman Mitch Moreland being on a ridiculous tear, hitting something like .375 in the last month with 10 homers for the season, it's going to be hard to find a place for Profar. The original thought was move Kinsler to 1st but how do you sit Moreland who has been crushing the ball?

 The only potential spot I see is replacing a struggling left fielder, David Murphy...but I'm not even sure Profar has been getting any work in the outfield.

Profar is batting 9th tonight, should be interesting.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on May 20, 2013, 02:42:00 PM
Just proves that one guy (Hamilton) does not make a team.

A bad contract on an aging player can really be detrimental to a team in a couple ways. Financially of course because money is guaranteed but also it can hurt the developmental phase with some of the younger guys coming up. No doubt GM Jon Daniels wanted to keep Hamilton and also wanted to sign Greinke BUT only at the right price and also keeping in mind that he had full confidence in his farm system, and it has paid off.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on May 20, 2013, 02:43:02 PM
Outside of a super utility role I just don't see how Profar stays up for any extended period of time unless he just comes in and forces himself to stay by playing incredible. Washington has already stated he wants Profar getting regular at bats and with Kinsler batting .302 and playing at a very high level coupled with 1st baseman Mitch Moreland being on a ridiculous tear, hitting something like .375 in the last month with 10 homers for the season, it's going to be hard to find a place for Profar. The original thought was move Kinsler to 1st but how do you sit Moreland who has been crushing the ball?

 The only potential spot I see is replacing a struggling left fielder, David Murphy...but I'm not even sure Profar has been getting any work in the outfield.

Profar is batting 9th tonight, should be interesting.

I haven't looked as to who might be available, but they may want to use Profar for SP.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on May 20, 2013, 02:51:16 PM
I haven't looked as to who might be available, but they may want to use Profar for SP.

Yeah that's been the talk. Either a starting pitcher or a power hitting corner outfielder. This goes without saying but prospects can have a great deal of trade value because of their financial value to an organization. Getting a great talent at a cheap price for 5 or 6 years is highly coveted. Profar could be one helluva chip in a trade. The talk around here is a package including Profar for either David Price or Stanton with the Marlins. Of course some of that is sports radio fodder but Darvish/Price for the next 3 years?? Very tempting!


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on May 20, 2013, 03:38:31 PM
That would be a heck of a 1-2.   Stanton is interesting, and work rake in Arlington, but I think an elite 2b is inherently more valuable than an elite hitting OF, especially give. Stanton's injury history.

I also think Price could be one of the rare instances where Tampa pays, but who knows.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on May 20, 2013, 04:17:00 PM
That would be a heck of a 1-2.   Stanton is interesting, and work rake in Arlington, but I think an elite 2b is inherently more valuable than an elite hitting OF, especially give. Stanton's injury history.

I also think Price could be one of the rare instances where Tampa pays, but who knows.

Profar at second would be great, don't get me wrong but Kinsler is only 30, already locked up for several more years and is really excelling in that lead off role. He's already had two 30/30 seasons. You combine that track record with a solid batting average this year and it just makes it tough for Profar to break into that middle infield. If Kinsler plays to his ability I am every bit as excited with him and Andrus over the next 4 years but then again Profar/Andrus for the next 10 years has a good ring to it as well  ;D The again, if Profar steps in and lights it up his trade value will never be higher.

Although Kinsler will give you the occasional bone head defensive play that just leaves you shaking your head at times  >:(


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on May 20, 2013, 05:15:10 PM
The again, if Profar steps in and lights it up his trade value will never be higher.

I agree with this 100%.   I'm a big believer in a good farm system, but I also believe all prospects suck until they.....don't.   In other words, if they can be traded for established elite talent, you do it.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on May 20, 2013, 05:32:12 PM
I agree with this 100%.   I'm a big believer in a good farm system, but I also believe all prospects suck until they.....don't.   In other words, if they can be traded for established elite talent, you do it.


Absolutely.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: CalvinH on May 21, 2013, 07:01:47 AM
Will Mariano set the save record in his last year at age 43 ??? :o


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on May 21, 2013, 07:09:11 AM
Will Mariano set the save record in his last year at age 43 ??? :o

Hopefully he changes he mind and decides to pitch until he's 50.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: CalvinH on May 21, 2013, 12:53:21 PM
Hopefully he changes he mind and decides to pitch until he's 50.

I met Bernie Williams Sunday night...I was out in White Plains and a girlfriend said "Want to go next door.they have an open mic night and he always sits in and plays guitar" I was like "Yeah" and sure enough he was there jamming on his guitar.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on May 22, 2013, 07:45:07 AM
Will Mariano set the save record in his last year at age 43 ??? :o

From what I have heard he's just as dominant as he's ever been. Pretty spectacular.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on May 22, 2013, 08:11:33 AM
From what I have heard he's just as dominant as he's ever been. Pretty spectacular.


I watched every save this year.  His control is still there, and the velocity is holding around 91, but I've seen it amped to 92-93.  Even though it's not at 96 anymore, as long as the pitch is not flat, it's still going to be very difficult to hit.

This video is pretty cool at showing how he does it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVXjRGTtG0




Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on May 22, 2013, 05:41:06 PM

I watched every save this year.  His control is still there, and the velocity is holding around 91, but I've seen it amped to 92-93.  Even though it's not at 96 anymore, as long as the pitch is not flat, it's still going to be very difficult to hit.

This video is pretty cool at showing how he does it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVXjRGTtG0




Great video. I always wondered how some of these closers can still be successful after losing a good amount of velocity but I suppose with that dynamic cutter action he can still be effective. He almost seems like a knuckleballer in the sense that he could stick around for a few more years because he doesn't necessarily need mid 90's velocity to be effective.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on May 22, 2013, 05:44:16 PM
Great video. I always wondered how some of these closers can still be successful after losing a good amount of velocity but I suppose with that dynamic cutter action he can still be effective. He almost seems like a knuckleballer in the sense that he could stick around for a few more years because he doesn't necessarily need mid 90's velocity to be effective.

I think it's a fair statement.

This is not nearly the same for obvious reasons, but I've faced some pitchers in fast pitch softball who could hit their hip on the release, generating side spin that acted like a cutter.  As a lefty, I can recall seeing pitches that looked fat when I swung, but hit right above my hands which produced a weak grounder to second.   That's at 60mph.   At 90+, I can't even imagine it.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on May 28, 2013, 08:34:57 AM
phightin' phils stinking it up lately, dominic brown 10 homers and 29 rbi's said to be lone bright spot offensively.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on May 28, 2013, 03:44:06 PM
I think it's a fair statement.

This is not nearly the same for obvious reasons, but I've faced some pitchers in fast pitch softball who could hit their hip on the release, generating side spin that acted like a cutter.  As a lefty, I can recall seeing pitches that looked fat when I swung, but hit right above my hands which produced a weak grounder to second.   That's at 60mph.   At 90+, I can't even imagine it.

Yeah it's a whole nother world at 90 miles per hour. I never knew softball pitchers could create that kind of action to begin with haha but then again I never really played beyond little league :)

Alot of the top closers kinda faltering at this point in the season.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on May 29, 2013, 03:56:41 AM
Yeah it's a whole nother world at 90 miles per hour. I never knew softball pitchers could create that kind of action to begin with haha but then again I never really played beyond little league :)

Alot of the top closers kinda faltering at this point in the season.

Uncanny that you posted this BEFORE the Yankee tonight.



Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on May 29, 2013, 07:44:03 AM
Uncanny that you posted this BEFORE the Yankee tonight.



Cowherd said that was the first time in his career he failed to even get someone out during a save opportunity. Pretty incredible. I don't know what one blown save really does but there was Cy young and "starting the all star game" talk prior to yesterday.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on May 29, 2013, 08:07:35 AM
Cowherd said that was the first time in his career he failed to even get someone out during a save opportunity. Pretty incredible. I don't know what one blown save really does but there was Cy young and "starting the all star game" talk prior to yesterday.

Cy is a long way off..........

Rivera himself said he would not start the ASG.  He said it is not his job and wouldn't be right.   Guy is awesome.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on May 29, 2013, 10:59:58 AM
 :P on the subject of softball the guy pic'd on s& h and eddie feigner are probablty the two best pitchers in the sport  ever. seen them both pitch truly amazing....


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on June 02, 2013, 01:43:16 PM
phillies turn 7-0 laugher into a 7-5 nailbiter win, dom brown nl hr leader with 16, hr triple single and bb today.papelbon unavailable??????


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on June 04, 2013, 10:17:05 AM
dom brown strikes again 9 home runs in 10 games two straight player of the week awards and a player of the month. kyle kendrick, cliff lee, dom brown and eric kratz still playing at a hugh level.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on June 04, 2013, 05:37:00 PM
Oakland A's have won 15 of 17.

Hottest team in baseball?


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on June 04, 2013, 06:16:23 PM
Oakland A's have won 15 of 17.

Hottest team in baseball?

They do this from time to time.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on June 04, 2013, 06:56:37 PM
They do this from time to time.

Pitching staff AND bullpen playing lights out right now.

Scary combination.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on June 05, 2013, 04:03:01 PM
phillies 500 dom brown 18 bombs. things are looking up hamels wins second game 2-9 wow great value for the buck. ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on June 06, 2013, 03:41:05 AM
phillies 500 dom brown 18 bombs. things are looking up hamels wins second game 2-9 wow great value for the buck. ::) ::) ::) ::)

A month ago, I dropped Dominic from my fantasy baseball team to make room for another fielder.  I had drafted him thinking he could break out.  I wish he'd stop now.   ;D


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on June 06, 2013, 07:29:06 AM
forgot to give john mayberry jr credit the other day two extra inning home runs first one tied the game in the 10 th second one a grand slam won it in the 11 th. first guy to hit two extra inning hrs in the same game in 26 years last guy mike young of baltimore.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on June 07, 2013, 09:34:11 AM
phils win ,    phils win  now 31-30. ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on June 17, 2013, 11:23:04 AM
Orioles playing well.

They have a good offense.  I wonder if they'll finally make a move for a legit starter.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on June 17, 2013, 12:28:00 PM
Orioles playing well.

They have a good offense.  I wonder if they'll finally make a move for a legit starter.

I hope so. They have talent in the starting rotation, just no consistency. Hammel and Tillman(7-2) have been the most steady.The offense has been mainly winning their games. If they're within 5 games of first place by the trading deadline, I guarantee they make a move.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on June 17, 2013, 04:52:09 PM
I hope so. They have talent in the starting rotation, just no consistency. Hammel and Tillman(7-2) have been the most steady.The offense has been mainly winning their games. If they're within 5 games of first place by the trading deadline, I guarantee they make a move.

Too bad Matusz turned out the way he has so far.  He had some hype around him.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on June 18, 2013, 02:44:58 PM
tigers max scherzer 10-0 . :o :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on June 19, 2013, 07:31:23 AM
Too bad Matusz turned out the way he has so far.  He had some hype around him.

I like Matusz way better as a late inning/set up relief pitcher than as a starter. Much more effective and he sets up Johnson well to close games out.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on June 19, 2013, 10:29:16 AM
cliff lee 9-2 phils tie for 2nd in division  again woooowhooooo


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on June 19, 2013, 11:03:37 AM
tigers max scherzer 10-0 . :o :o :o :o :o

Yeah...he's a stud. The Orioles lineup had no answer for him. But then they tattoo Verlander the next day. Go figure.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: blinky on June 22, 2013, 12:45:04 AM
blue jays 9 wins in a row 


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on June 22, 2013, 06:02:04 AM
Yeah man - AL East is going to be clogged all year.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: blinky on June 24, 2013, 12:19:12 AM
blue jays 9 wins in a row 

11 straight


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on June 24, 2013, 07:32:47 AM
11 straight

And those fucks swept the Orioles this past weekend.  >:(


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on June 24, 2013, 10:18:09 AM
Yeah...he's a stud. The Orioles lineup had no answer for him. But then they tattoo Verlander the next day. Go figure.
now 11-0, verlander showing signs of excessive wear.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on June 24, 2013, 11:18:29 AM
now 11-0, verlander showing signs of excessive wear.

Yeah he's been lit up several times this year.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: blinky on June 25, 2013, 01:02:01 AM
And those fucks swept the Orioles this past weekend.  >:(

yes that was nice  :D
but lost today.

BIG 3 series stretch for the Jays right now.....O's, Rays then B-Sox


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on June 25, 2013, 03:57:35 AM
yes that was nice  :D
but lost today.

BIG 3 series stretch for the Jays right now.....O's, Rays then B-Sox

They just need to tread water and not drop a ton.   This race is going down to the wire.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on June 25, 2013, 11:13:56 AM
phils lose again paplebum another blown save. two of his bs he actually got the win not this time on the road.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on June 25, 2013, 11:35:51 AM
cliff lee 9-2 phils tie for 2nd in division  again woooowhooooo

I'm putting in the call right now....Cliff Lee is a Texas Ranger within 6 weeks.  8)

Number one priority for Texas is a top of the rotation starter to go with Darvish and Jon Daniels is a man who likes to make moves.

Including trading away Chris Davis unfortunately  :'( :-X >:(


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on June 25, 2013, 01:13:19 PM
Do you give up Profar for him?


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on June 25, 2013, 02:20:59 PM
Do you give up Profar for him?

I think so. What's Lee got left? 4 years on his contract? That gives you a 4 year span with Darvish/Lee at the top of your rotation and Holland/Harrison also locked up for multiple years. Plus the bullpen which has been the strength of the team thus far has some really promising young talent( Robbie Ross, Tanner Scheppers, Martin Perez)

With that level of pitching you are going to be in the hunt pretty much every year. As I stated before I'm a big fan of Ian Kinsler, he's basically the heart of this team plus that power at second base is rare. And with Ian and Elvis Andrus locked up also for multiple years I say you trade Profar for either a starting pitcher or corner outfielder with good power. As much as I love Profar's upside I just don't think his value is with this team in the short term future.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on June 26, 2013, 04:07:21 AM
I'm putting in the call right now....Cliff Lee is a Texas Ranger within 6 weeks.  8)

Number one priority for Texas is a top of the rotation starter to go with Darvish and Jon Daniels is a man who likes to make moves.

Including trading away Chris Davis unfortunately  :'( :-X >:(
i can see this happening, esp with paplebum losing trade value by the day. last night phils win brown hits numero 20 plus 4 rbis.kendrick the win 7-4.amaro is scrambling for his job. manuel will be let go soon. sandberg may finally get his chance.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on June 27, 2013, 06:38:35 AM
phils win 2 in a row it took 13 innings but they got er done. hamels tossed up another stinker.good thing they decided to give him one of the biggest contracts for a pitcher ever where would they be w/o his 2-11 record. ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on June 27, 2013, 09:11:27 AM
I'm surprised he's this bad.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on June 27, 2013, 02:21:26 PM
Derek Holland pitches a 2 hit complete game shutout in New York.

That lefty is such an enigma at times. Capable of these gem performances then seemingly throws a stinker down the line to match.  :-\


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on June 27, 2013, 05:33:29 PM
Derek Holland pitches a 2 hit complete game shutout in New York.

That lefty is such an enigma at times. Capable of these gem performances then seemingly throws a stinker down the line to match.  :-\

Most pitchers SHOULD dominate a lineup that contains Nix, Wells, Gonzalez, Almonte, Romine and Adams.   Just typing those names....ugh.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on June 27, 2013, 10:08:20 PM
Most pitchers SHOULD dominate a lineup that contains Nix, Wells, Gonzalez, Almonte, Romine and Adams.   Just typing those names....ugh.

Haha true true. You would be hard pressed to find a starting position on another American League roster for ANY of those guys. Hell, you could almost throw ichiro in there as well at this stage of his career.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on June 28, 2013, 05:48:14 AM
Haha true true. You would be hard pressed to find a starting position on another American League roster for ANY of those guys. Hell, you could almost throw ichiro in there as well at this stage of his career.

You're right about that.

They've done well with what they have, but if they don't get Granderson/Jeter/Arod back AND add a bat, they'll slip out it.

Although Pineda could be a big factor.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on June 28, 2013, 11:13:27 AM
phils get tons of hits only 4 runs and lose, delmon young's 4 for 4 added up to zero. utley hr brown number 21. and bad news darren daulton brain tumors  will be operated on next week. sad. this makes the fifth phillie from that era  to have brain cancer, johnny oates, ken brett, tug mcgraw, john vukovich. :( :( :(


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on June 29, 2013, 06:58:41 AM
phils get ton of hits and runs this time 16-1 over the hot dodgers. lannan the pitcher 3 for 4. howard warched his replacement go 2 for 4 with a homer. carlos zambrano may be done was in triple a. shoulder pain.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on July 02, 2013, 06:45:14 AM
phils vs pirates for the battle of pennsylvania. pirates own the best record in baseball after 21 losing seasons[ below .500 winning pct for 21 seasons}rollins says don't worry wait till after the all-star break.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on July 05, 2013, 08:22:16 AM
phils win 2 in a row it took 13 innings but they got er done. hamels tossed up another stinker.good thing they decided to give him one of the biggest contracts for a pitcher ever where would they be w/o his 2-11 record. ::) ::) ::) ::)
phils win the battle of pa 2 games to one hamels 3 and 11. max scherzer 13-0. adam dunn 23 homers hits his ninth walkoff homer. raul  41 years old ibanez hits his 21 in 64 games good rate for anyone.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on July 07, 2013, 06:18:39 AM
phils lose 13-4 put the 25 million dollar man ryan howard on dl. daren ruf gets shot at first base after trying to learn of in minors all year. will probably be sellers this year.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on July 11, 2013, 12:32:35 PM
jeetes is back 1 for 3 so far


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on July 18, 2013, 07:03:35 AM
jeetes is back 1 for 3 so far
jeets is hurt oh well at least he got a hit in 2013.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on July 18, 2013, 07:05:26 AM
state of the phillies at the all-star break= 48 and 48 a 500 record. last year team was with a late push 81-81, guess there just a mediocre team now.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on July 18, 2013, 09:18:18 AM
Just sitting here depressed watching Chris Davis hit an ungodly amount of home runs and wondering "who in the hell is this guy!?!?!!"

I watched this guy struggle OVER and OVER with the Rangers, then traded for a decent reliever and all of the sudden he is hitting like the second coming of Babe Ruth. That has got to be one of the all time worse trades in Texas Rangers history and there have been plenty of those!

How does anyone explain this? Anybody thinking PEDs or just a case of new scenery in Baltimore? This really is a pretty amazing story when looked at with a critical eye. What's he on pace for? High 60s in home runs for the season??


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: tu_holmes on July 18, 2013, 09:19:28 AM
Just sitting here depressed watching Chris Davis hit an ungodly amount of home runs and wondering "who in the hell is this guy!?!?!!"

I watched this guy struggle OVER and OVER with the Rangers, then traded for a decent reliever and all of the sudden he is hitting like the second coming of Babe Ruth. That has got to be one of the all time worse trades in Texas Rangers history and there have been plenty of those!

How does anyone explain this? Anybody thinking PEDs or just a case of new scenery in Baltimore. This really is a pretty amazing story when looked at with a critical eye. What's he on pace for? High 60s in home runs for the season??

He is on pace with the Mark McGwire season.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on July 18, 2013, 09:23:15 AM
He is on pace with the Mark McGwire season.

I watched him daily. He was "that guy" who you were constantly pissed over the strikeouts and pop outs. ALWAYS being forced down to Triple A where he would light it up like a champ then come right back up and struggle. Over and over this cycle went for several years. What an amazing story. As someone who has followed his career so closely during the bad times it's almost surreal.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on July 18, 2013, 09:28:50 AM
I watched him daily. He was "that guy" who you were constantly pissed over the strikeouts and pop outs. ALWAYS being forced down to Triple A where he would light it up like a champ then come right back up and struggle. Over and over this cycle went for several years. What an amazing story. As someone who has followed his career so closely during the bad times it's almost surreal.

Sometimes, after a few years in the majors, a light just turns on inside a ball player's head. Chris is seeing the ball so well and is a much more disciplined hitter. And I don't think Chris uses PED's. Just a corn-fed country strong white boy from Texas. Baltimore will have to break the bank to re-sign him and I hope he doesn't pull a bitch move and sign with the Yankees next year. He is line to make some serious $$$ after this season. AND he's also a good right fielder which adds to his versatility.

He's actually on pace for the TRUE home run record. Roger Maris' 61.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on July 18, 2013, 09:35:15 AM
Sometimes, after a few years in the majors, a light just turns on inside a ball player's head. Chris is seeing the ball so well and is a much more disciplined hitter. And I don't think Chris uses PED's. Just a corn-fed country strong white boy from Texas. Baltimore will have to break the bank to re-sign him and I hope he doesn't pull a bitch move and sign with the Yankees next year. He is line to make some serious $$$ after this season. AND he's also a good right fielder which adds to his versatility.

He's actually on pace for the TRUE home run record. Roger Maris' 61.

Yeah you're right about the strong white boy part. Even during his worse struggles that guy used to KILL the ball in batting practice. Some say he just wanted it so bad with the rangers, growing up a couple hours down the road in Longview(I think) that it just messed with his mental aspect. I am truly happy for the dude though, by all accounts just a stand up individual. I just wish it was me at the ball park in Arlington watching all these jacks!!!  >:( :'(


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on July 18, 2013, 10:16:46 AM
Just sitting here depressed watching Chris Davis hit an ungodly amount of home runs and wondering "who in the hell is this guy!?!?!!"

I watched this guy struggle OVER and OVER with the Rangers, then traded for a decent reliever and all of the sudden he is hitting like the second coming of Babe Ruth. That has got to be one of the all time worse trades in Texas Rangers history and there have been plenty of those!

How does anyone explain this? Anybody thinking PEDs or just a case of new scenery in Baltimore? This really is a pretty amazing story when looked at with a critical eye. What's he on pace for? High 60s in home runs for the season??

Out of context years happen all the time.   Check out Chase Headley last year, or Ellsbury 2011.    Luck plays such a ridiculous factor in baseball, and sometimes the planets align for a season for some of these guys.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on July 18, 2013, 10:42:54 AM
Yeah you're right about the strong white boy part. Even during his worse struggles that guy used to KILL the ball in batting practice. Some say he just wanted it so bad with the rangers, growing up a couple hours down the road in Longview(I think) that it just messed with his mental aspect. I am truly happy for the dude though, by all accounts just a stand up individual. I just wish it was me at the ball park in Arlington watching all these jacks!!!  >:( :'(


He's making a lot panties get wet with the ladies around here in Baltimore. If you go to Orioles game these days in the summer, there are dozens of young ladies barring major cleavage and booty shorts in the stands screaming for him.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on July 18, 2013, 11:35:49 AM
Mclouth/Weiters/Davis/Jones/Markakis/Machado/Hardy........

They should be all over Philly for Lee right now.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on July 18, 2013, 11:49:08 AM

He's making a lot panties get wet with the ladies around here in Baltimore. If you go to Orioles game these days in the summer, there are dozens of young ladies barring major cleavage and booty shorts in the stands screaming for him.

I think it might be an East Texas Piney Woods thing. Lufkin, Longview, Houston,  :) He's from the same region as Adrian Peterson and Dez Bryant...a ton of freakish type athletes from that region plus chicks always dig the long ball. 8)

I think Chris just needs to stay right where he's at and keep that comfort level high and just roll with it. Don't even bother with the hometown pressures of Texas or that New York media. Dude needs to sign long term in Baltimore.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on July 18, 2013, 01:11:03 PM
there's a whole host of guys who had one great season in a career, it's the consistancy that sets the stars apart davis had 33 homers last year so who knows maybe he'll be consistant from here on in. book called one shining season chronicles many of these stories off the top of my head i remember  lee thomas was one player  included in this  book.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on July 18, 2013, 01:15:48 PM
on that topic look at roger maris's career one great year a couple good years and some average years. 28,  39, 61,33, 26, homer seasons 2 mvps, 275 hrs for career.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on July 18, 2013, 01:50:34 PM
This whole conversation is making me so fucking depressed.

Okay, poly quit bitching!  :D


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on July 19, 2013, 07:18:50 AM
Mclouth/Weiters/Davis/Jones/Markakis/Machado/Hardy........

They should be all over Philly for Lee right now.

I hope they make a play for him. The birds need another arm besides adding Feldman for the stretch run. They could have a great rotation with Tillman, Lee, Feldman, and Gonzalez.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on July 26, 2013, 07:53:22 AM
yankees acquire alfonso soriano from cubs. he's now a yankee again. ;D ;D ;D. phillies stunk it up in st louis now to detroit.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on July 26, 2013, 11:30:33 AM
yankees acquire alfonso soriano from cubs. he's now a yankee again. ;D ;D ;D. phillies stunk it up in st louis now to detroit.

Not thrilled with it, but it's definitely an upgrade over the dreck they're throwing out there, and he costs them basically nothing next year.

IF/IF Jeter/Arod/Granderson return soon, that lineup could be much better.

Yankees lost their starting 3B/SS/1B/CF/C for most of this year.  They should not even be in contention.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on July 28, 2013, 07:22:57 AM
Not thrilled with it, but it's definitely an upgrade over the dreck they're throwing out there, and he costs them basically nothing next year.

IF/IF Jeter/Arod/Granderson return soon, that lineup could be much better.

Yankees lost their starting 3B/SS/1B/CF/C for most of this year.  They should not even be in contention.
true hard to believe they still got a shot. in phillytown phillies humiliated in detroit 10-0 yesterday scherzer now 15-1. phillies spend 48 million[deal coyld actually be worth more} for cuban  pitcher miquel gonzalez listed at age 26[?????????????},hard to believe they once spent 1.2 million in the uinternational market back in 2001 when guy pitcher didn't make the bigs scout who recommended him was fired and phillies stayed away from international talent.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on July 28, 2013, 12:56:52 PM
jeets is back again 2 for 4 so far with a homer, soriano 2 for 3 with a homer. phils 12-3 loooooooooosing again at least they scored 3 runs  eigth inning.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on July 29, 2013, 06:49:05 AM
Just have the phils trade us Utley to play 3rd for the rest of the year.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on August 01, 2013, 06:16:18 AM
Just have the phils trade us Utley to play 3rd for the rest of the year.
yanks made offers on michael young and carlos ruiz , amaro turned both down.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on August 01, 2013, 06:42:14 AM
yanks made offers on michael young and carlos ruiz , amaro turned both down.

Yup.  Yanks felt asking price was too high.  Oh well.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on August 01, 2013, 08:21:09 AM
Texas Rangers sweep the Angels including 3 straight victories by walk off home run. Been a fun week to watch!

Texas has arguably the best pitching staff in the AL but the bats have got to warm up of they are gonna have a chance to make some noise this October. Should be getting Feliz, Harrison and Lewis back to bolster the rotation/bullpen within the next few weeks.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on August 01, 2013, 10:00:22 AM
Texas Rangers sweep the Angels including 3 straight victories by walk off home run. Been a fun week to watch!

Texas has arguably the best pitching staff in the AL but the bats have got to warm up of they are gonna have a chance to make some noise this October. Should be getting Feliz, Harrison and Lewis back to bolster the rotation/bullpen within the next few weeks.

I like your stuff poly, but I don't think Texas hs the best staff in the AL. 

Without digging into the data, I'd put them behind  Tampa/Oakland/Detroit and NY.....maybe even others.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on August 01, 2013, 05:52:25 PM
I like your stuff poly, but I don't think Texas hs the best staff in the AL. 

Without digging into the data, I'd put them behind  Tampa/Oakland/Detroit and NY.....maybe even others.

I feel the same way about yours on here as well  8)

Can't get too in depth in geek mode with stats and all that cause I'm typing on my phone but just to keep it basic I'll throw era numbers out there. I don't think I could have made the statement I did 2 weeks ago but with the addition of Garza who has been one of the hottest pitchers in baseball the last couple months plus a (for now) healthy Ogando I think I can.

AL leaders in ERA has The Rangers with 3 starting pitchers in the top 12 (Darvish, Garza, Holland). If you add Ogando's 3.05 era that's 4 starting pitchers in the top 13. No other team even comes close to matching that. I think a weak point with my argument is Ogando has to stay on the field and maintain that level of productivity. At the 5 spot there's Martin Perez, a 22 year old lefty with a ton of upside but will still shit the bed on ya so he could be a wash. Pitches a one run game into the 8th versus the angels last night then might implode the next.

Team relief pitching ERA has Texas ranked 4th currently. That's why I tend to downgrade Detroit overall because their bullpen is average to slightly below average. Detroit's starting rotation is probably the best rotation in the AL though. I think Oakland's bullpen is a slight notch above texas...maybe... but they can't match Texas starting rotation at this point. I'd love to hear arguments with TB and NYY though. Kuroda is a great pitcher but they drop off after that and TB's bullpen is pretty average. I don't necessarily think Texas is clearly the best pitching staff but I think it could be argued.

I really believe Darvish and Holland would both be close to 15 game winners at this point but Texas just flat out cannot hit the damn baseball and unless some miracle occurs between now and October they are going to crash and burn. I don't think anything is more frustrating as a fan than watching your team put together a top level pitching staff and STILL lose because of horrendous hitting. I think they just had a stretch where they went something like 24 straight innings without a run. Just terrible.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on August 01, 2013, 10:43:09 PM
Yu Darvish pitches his 4th 14 strikeout game of the season. To put that into perspective only 2 other major league pitchers have had ONE game with 14 strikeouts...Chris Sale of the White Sox and Sanchez of the Tigers.

Heard another stat on the radio, Darvish has recorded at least 10 strikeouts in 16 of his first 50 games. Second most in the modern era (since 1900). Dwight gooden is first at 20.

Thankfully Yu has no known drug issues like the doc  :)


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on August 02, 2013, 08:17:03 AM
Yu Darvish pitches his 4th 14 strikeout game of the season. To put that into perspective only 2 other major league pitchers have had ONE game with 14 strikeouts...Chris Sale of the White Sox and Sanchez of the Tigers.

Heard another stat on the radio, Darvish has recorded at least 10 strikeouts in 16 of his first 50 games. Second most in the modern era (since 1900). Dwight gooden is first at 20.

Thankfully Yu has no known drug issues like the doc  :)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/hry69k.png)

This .gif is one of the coolest - same arm angle 5 different pitches:

(http://cdn.fangraphs.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/DarvishGIF.gif)


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on August 02, 2013, 08:43:46 AM
(http://i41.tinypic.com/hry69k.png)

This .gif is one of the coolest - same arm angle 5 different pitches:

(http://cdn.fangraphs.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/DarvishGIF.gif)

I worry about his pitch efficiency at times. It took him almost 115 to get through 7 innings last night and he regularly throws in the 110 to 120 range but from what I've heard he would throw around 130 pitches a game at times in Japan and it hasn't seemed to affect him so far.

I seen that gif before. Really cool. Yu is just a unique guy that is hard to compare with anyone else. Mound presence, variety of pitches and strikeout ability. Should be really fun to watch for years to come.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on August 02, 2013, 09:23:04 AM
trade deadline was a big joke, practically no movement of note at all. gone are the days of jose canseco for ruben sierra was the start of mega deals.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on August 02, 2013, 10:26:06 AM
trade deadline was a big joke, practically no movement of note at all. gone are the days of jose canseco for ruben sierra was the start of mega deals.

That's the new reality, as teams aren't going to take on as many players who would leave at the end of the year for free agency, as they don't get draft picks any more.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on August 03, 2013, 11:15:49 AM
emotional night at cbp  curt schilling got on the wall of fame, dutch daulton was in attendance surprisingly as he's  trying to combat brain cancer. as usual the phillies ruined the moment and lost 6-4 now in a tie for third with the dreadful mets.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on August 05, 2013, 07:51:47 AM
phillies 2 wins 13 loses since the all-star break, welcome to the dark years. maybe they are trying to break the all-time record for consecutive loses, which is 23 by the woeful 1961 phillies.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on August 07, 2013, 07:43:49 AM
phils actually won another game but they tried their darnedness not to= 9-5 lead in the ninth became 9-8 with runners on first and third all this with two outs, another stellar performance from jonathen paplebum. :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on August 07, 2013, 08:22:12 AM
I hate the second wild card.

Even though it's basically the only chance my Yankees have of making the post season, it's ridiculous that teams playing at the level they are have a shot, when other teams are much more deserving.

It's going to be a sad baseball day when an 81 win team eliminates a 93 win team.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on August 07, 2013, 10:47:06 AM
I hate the second wild card.

Even though it's basically the only chance my Yankees have of making the post season, it's ridiculous that teams playing at the level they are have a shot, when other teams are much more deserving.

It's going to be a sad baseball day when an 81 win team eliminates a 93 win team.

What makes you think an 81 win team could qualify for the 2nd wildcard in the first place? Tampa Bay, Texas, O's , and Indians look like they're going to clear 90 wins this year and be in the running for that spot. I'd say 85 wins would be the bare minimum to have a shot but a .500 team? Don't see that happening unless they come up with a 3rd wildcard.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on August 07, 2013, 11:10:04 AM
What makes you think an 81 win team could qualify for the 2nd wildcard in the first place? Tampa Bay, Texas, O's , and Indians look like they're going to clear 90 wins this year and be in the running for that spot. I'd say 85 wins would be the bare minimum to have a shot but a .500 team? Don't see that happening unless they come up with a 3rd wildcard.

I'm not basing it solely on this year, but the point wasn't to get into that level of specificity.   But, to use your example, make it an 85 win team beating a 95 win team.  My opinion doesnt change.

The vagaries of baseball make it as much luck and timing as it is skill when played in samll samples.  10 wins is enormous of the course of a season, and a team should not have to play a one game playoff with a team that performed so much worse.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on August 07, 2013, 12:08:48 PM
I'm not basing it solely on this year, but the point wasn't to get into that level of specificity.   But, to use your example, make it an 85 win team beating a 95 win team.  My opinion doesnt change.

The vagaries of baseball make it as much luck and timing as it is skill when played in samll samples.  10 wins is enormous of the course of a season, and a team should not have to play a one game playoff with a team that performed so much worse.

Bro....it's the same as football......a 9-7 division winner would host a 12-4 wild card team. that's just how it goes. And I'm sure you wern't complaining when your 9-7 Giants won the division, got to host a playoff game, and ultimately won the superbowl as a 9 win team.

I'm sure you will argue that it's not the same but I think it is.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on August 07, 2013, 12:29:06 PM
Bro....it's the same as football......a 9-7 division winner would host a 12-4 wild card team. that's just how it goes. And I'm sure you wern't complaining when your 9-7 Giants won the division, got to host a playoff game, and ultimately won the superbowl as a 9 win team.

I'm sure you will argue that it's not the same but I think it is.

Not an argument, just a discussion.  I like your views on shit, and if  we all felt the same, this would suck.

The difference for me in the football sample is the 162 game vs. 16 game season.  Football is always about one game.   Baseball is about series, and the grind over the long haul.   Teams can be structured very differently, each one advantageous based on sample size.   A  team with 2 "A" pitchers and 2 "Cs" and a "D" would have the advantage in a short series over a team with 5 "Bs", but the 5 B team would do better over 162.   That's just a basic example, as I know hitting, etc. is invovled.  But the point is, it is a grind, and the team that plays the best over that grind by a wide margin shouldn't have a one game playoff.  Baseball doesn't work like that.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on August 07, 2013, 01:25:09 PM
Not an argument, just a discussion.  I like your views on shit, and if  we all felt the same, this would suck.

The difference for me in the football sample is the 162 game vs. 16 game season.  Football is always about one game.   Baseball is about series, and the grind over the long haul.   Teams can be structured very differently, each one advantageous based on sample size.   A  team with 2 "A" pitchers and 2 "Cs" and a "D" would have the advantage in a short series over a team with 5 "Bs", but the 5 B team would do better over 162.   That's just a basic example, as I know hitting, etc. is invovled.  But the point is, it is a grind, and the team that plays the best over that grind by a wide margin shouldn't have a one game playoff.  Baseball doesn't work like that.

I see your point. For instance, I hated that the NBA playoff format in the first round was best 3 out of 5 after an 82 game season. But ironically.....Now that the format has changed to best 4 out of 7 in the first, it seems like too many games because they space out too many days in between the games.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on August 07, 2013, 01:32:13 PM
I see your point. For instance, I hated that the NBA playoff format in the first round was best 3 out of 5 after an 82 game season. But ironically.....Now that the format has changed to best 4 out of 7 in the first, it seems like too many games because they space out too many days in between the games.

Exactly.   I felt the same way about the 3 out of 5 in t he Division Seriers rounds of baseball, and still do.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on August 07, 2013, 01:47:03 PM
Exactly.   I felt the same way about the 3 out of 5 in t he Division Seriers rounds of baseball, and still do.

I agree. I feel that the 3 out of 5 division format always is to the benefit of the underdog because of the points you made in your earlier post.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on August 07, 2013, 01:47:52 PM
I hate the second wild card.

Even though it's basically the only chance my Yankees have of making the post season, it's ridiculous that teams playing at the level they are have a shot, when other teams are much more deserving.

It's going to be a sad baseball day when an 81 win team eliminates a 93 win team.
the only thing i like about the second wild caed is that the two teams usually use their best pitcher. this gives an advantage to the teams that win the divisions. otherwise they the wildcard team had little disadvantage.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on August 07, 2013, 01:49:59 PM
What makes you think an 81 win team could qualify for the 2nd wildcard in the first place? Tampa Bay, Texas, O's , and Indians look like they're going to clear 90 wins this year and be in the running for that spot. I'd say 85 wins would be the bare minimum to have a shot but a .500 team? Don't see that happening unless they come up with a 3rd wildcard.
look at football if you have a weak division 7-9 makes it. i rember the patriots going 11-5 and not making playoffs. giants 9-7 win superbowl 16-0  meaniless.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: tu_holmes on August 07, 2013, 02:34:44 PM
look at football if you have a weak division 7-9 makes it. i rember the patriots going 11-5 and not making playoffs. giants 9-7 win superbowl 16-0  meaniless.

Actually, the harder the division, the more likely you will have a 9-7 or 8-8 team will make the playoffs.

I do not recall a 7-9 team making the playoffs, but I guess it may have happened in the past.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on August 08, 2013, 07:04:23 AM
Actually, the harder the division, the more likely you will have a 9-7 or 8-8 team will make the playoffs.

I do not recall a 7-9 team making the playoffs, but I guess it may have happened in the past.


Seattle did it a couple of seasons ago. Won the NFC west at 7-9 AND beat the defending champs N.O. Saints in a playoff game that they HOSTED.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on August 08, 2013, 08:47:09 AM
Actually, the harder the division, the more likely you will have a 9-7 or 8-8 team will make the playoffs.

I do not recall a 7-9 team making the playoffs, but I guess it may have happened in the past.


Not sure about other states but in Texas high school football I have seen teams go 3 and 7 get in by losing all their non district games, which don't count, then winning against weak inter divisional opponents. I think even a 2 and 8 team can get in but can't remember it happening.

In a stacked division like in the Houston area or the Odessa Midland area of the 80s you could theoretically have 3 teams tied at 9 and 1 and one of those wouldn't even get in by virtue of "only 2 allowed entrance requirement" although I think they changed that rule a few years ago.

Imagine going 9 and 1 and MISSING the playoffs!  :-[


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: tu_holmes on August 08, 2013, 10:15:04 AM
Seattle did it a couple of seasons ago. Won the NFC west at 7-9 AND beat the defending champs N.O. Saints in a playoff game that they HOSTED.

That must be the only time in history... It's not like that kind of thing can happen often... Maybe once every 50 - 60 years?


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on August 09, 2013, 08:28:08 AM
That must be the only time in history... It's not like that kind of thing can happen often... Maybe once every 50 - 60 years?


First time it's ever happened in the NFL since they went to a 16 game season.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on August 12, 2013, 02:46:40 PM
Yu Darvish strikes out a career high 15, loses the perfect game in the 6th(after a blatant missed strike call) then the no hitter in the 8th as Texas goes on to retain a 1 game lead in the AL West.

Yu is on target to have the 3rd highest total in strikeouts for a players second season..probably will end up just below Dwight Gooden's total.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on August 16, 2013, 07:40:12 AM
al....o soriano on a tear for yankees 14 rbi's 10 hits in three games. phillies are buried  actually fell behind the mets the ultimate embarassment.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on August 16, 2013, 07:45:00 AM
al....o soriano on a tear for yankees 14 rbi's 10 hits in three games. phillies are buried  actually fell behind the mets the ultimate embarassment.

Yup.  Yankees finally have something resembling an MLB lineup.  Likely too little, too late, but who knows?


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on August 16, 2013, 11:37:08 AM
breaking news charlie manuel out as phillies manager. let the ryne sandberg era begin. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Andy Griffin on August 17, 2013, 05:17:36 AM
look at football if you have a weak division 7-9 makes it. i rember the patriots going 11-5 and not making playoffs. giants 9-7 win superbowl 16-0  meaniless.

1967 Colts were 11-1-2, missed the playoffs (only division champions went to the playoffs at that time, and the Rams won the division at 12-1-1...only to be beaten by the 9-4-1 Packers, who then won the Ice Bowl, then Super Bowl II)

1987 Twins won the World Series at 85-78...one of the recent Cardinals teams that won the WS was even closer to .500 during the season



Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on August 17, 2013, 06:43:56 AM
1967 Colts were 11-1-2, missed the playoffs (only division champions went to the playoffs at that time, and the Rams won the division at 12-1-1...only to be beaten by the 9-4-1 Packers, who then won the Ice Bowl, then Super Bowl II)

1987 Twins won the World Series at 85-78...one of the recent Cardinals teams that won the WS was even closer to .500 during the season


good find andy. i like to see a team penalized somewhat to get in as a wildcard, in the case of baseball that extra game seems right.  you burn your best pitcher putting you at a disadvantage in the next round.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on August 19, 2013, 07:31:00 AM
i was at another milestone philly game yesterday, ryne sandberg's first win as philly manager . it wasn't pretty but a wins a win in a dismal season. i was at philly whem the hated joe carter got his 2000th  hit in an interleague game. was also at yankee stad. for jeter's 3000 hit one section away from where his 3000 hit landed in the stands homerun.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on August 19, 2013, 08:21:49 AM
i was at another milestone philly game yesterday, ryne sandberg's first win as philly manager . it wasn't pretty but a wins a win in a dismal season. i was at philly whem the hated joe carter got his 2000th  hit in an interleague game. was also at yankee stad. for jeter's 3000 hit one section away from where his 3000 hit landed in the stands homerun.

They almost stopped the Dodgers streak a game or 2 ago didn't they? Seems like I heard it was was tied late in the game.

Boy you wanna talk about a red hot team, that's the Dodgers.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on August 19, 2013, 09:28:10 AM
I was hoping the Dodgers would tank this year for making one of the dumbest trades I'd ever seen - bailing the Red Sox out of two shitty contracts AND giving up prospects to boot.

They're a juggernaut now.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 19, 2013, 12:35:42 PM
I like the new playoff system because it should make teams want to really go all out and win their division...Would suck losing in a one game playoff...Also winning your division will let you set up your pitching starters for the playoffs. Having to win a one game playoff will make teams have to re-think throwing out their ace...Many different scenario's now come into play...


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Andy Griffin on August 19, 2013, 01:28:08 PM
I like the new playoff system because it should make teams want to really go all out and win their division...Would suck losing in a one game playoff...Also winning your division will let you set up your pitching starters for the playoffs. Having to win a one game playoff will make teams have to re-think throwing out their ace...Many different scenario's now come into play...

Teams went all out to win their divisions to an even greater extent when only the division winners advanced.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: polychronopolous on August 19, 2013, 02:09:19 PM
I was hoping the Dodgers would tank this year for making one of the dumbest trades I'd ever seen - bailing the Red Sox out of two shitty contracts AND giving up prospects to boot.

They're a juggernaut now.

I think they are averaging something like 1 loss per week for the past 7 weeks. Pretty incredible.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on August 20, 2013, 08:32:11 AM
I think they are averaging something like 1 loss per week for the past 7 weeks. Pretty incredible.
they had a 42 wins and 8 losses last 50 games before the phillies snapped their 10 game winning streak. best since the 1942 reds went 42-8 in a 50 game span.  i remember a tigers team in the mid 80's started off 35 wins and 5 losses played 500  ball rest of season and cruised to playoffs.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 20, 2013, 09:07:17 AM
Teams went all out to win their divisions to an even greater extent when only the division winners advanced.


True...But in most cases only until the trade deadline...

If a team is 8 to 10 games back at the trade deadline in August, without the second wild card, teams would sell off...Now there's a better chance that these teams make some moves to try to win that wildcard instead of selling off...Also if a team gets a double digit lead in their division by the All-star break and there's no 2nd wild card, every team in that division would most likely start to think sell off mode which basically is saying "we're throwing in the towel"...Now there's a better chance of that not happening imop...Those one game make it or break it playoff games are bound to be the most exciting games in baseball...I do think a 2 out of 3 series makes more sense but no doubt 1 game all or nothing will be some great baseball...


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on August 29, 2013, 08:42:02 AM
phils win 8 out of last 11 under sandberg , hope in phillies land for next year. it's funny in his interviews ryne s comes off as a quiet guy. but guy drops bombshells when he talks in his own quiet way.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: funk51 on October 02, 2013, 11:06:03 AM
pirates win  nl wildcard first time they had a winning record since 1992 . 1993 bonds went to the sf giants.


Title: Re: MLB 2013
Post by: Grape Ape on October 02, 2013, 11:38:03 AM
Go Pirates and Tampa.

Of course, it could be Cleveland vs. Pittsburgh which could have the lowest ratings ever.