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Dying vet’s ‘fuck you’ letter to Bush&Cheney needs to be read by every American
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To: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney
From: Tomas Young
I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.
I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost spouses, on behalf of children who have lost a parent, on behalf of the fathers and mothers who have lost sons and daughters and on behalf of those who care for the many thousands of my fellow veterans who have brain injuries. I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all—the human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief.
I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power. I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions more in Iraq and the Middle East, know fully who you are and what you have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.
Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.
I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to “liberate” Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called “democracy” in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq’s oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level—moral, strategic, military and economic—Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences.
I would not be writing this letter if I had been wounded fighting in Afghanistan against those forces that carried out the attacks of 9/11. Had I been wounded there I would still be miserable because of my physical deterioration and imminent death, but I would at least have the comfort of knowing that my injuries were a consequence of my own decision to defend the country I love. I would not have to lie in my bed, my body filled with painkillers, my life ebbing away, and deal with the fact that hundreds of thousands of human beings, including children, including myself, were sacrificed by you for little more than the greed of oil companies, for your alliance with the oil sheiks in Saudi Arabia, and your insane visions of empire.
I have, like many other disabled veterans, suffered from the inadequate and often inept care provided by the Veterans Administration. I have, like many other disabled veterans, come to realize that our mental and physical wounds are of no interest to you, perhaps of no interest to any politician. We were used. We were betrayed. And we have been abandoned. You, Mr. Bush, make much pretense of being a Christian. But isn’t lying a sin? Isn’t murder a sin? Aren’t theft and selfish ambition sins? I am not a Christian. But I believe in the Christian ideal. I believe that what you do to the least of your brothers you finally do to yourself, to your own soul.
My day of reckoning is upon me. Yours will come. I hope you will be put on trial. But mostly I hope, for your sakes, that you find the moral courage to face what you have done to me and to many, many others who deserved to live. I hope that before your time on earth ends, as mine is now ending, you will find the strength of character to stand before the American public and the world, and in particular the Iraqi people, and beg for forgiveness.
—Tomas Young
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Read it yesterday. Strong stuff, indeed, but Cheney eats that kind of sentiment for breakfast.
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Excellent, but he should of added Obama's name also.
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Excellent, but he should of added Obama's name also.
I fucking hate Cheney! Bush was doing what Pres Cheney told him to do!
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Do you want to know the sad truth? He signed up for it. I have long thought that I should have served in the special forces. That does not mean that I would blame other people for what happened. You sign on the dotted line.
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he volunteered to be a pawn in their game. now he cries about it?
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Well written, eloquent.
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Bush was better then Obama. People say Bush was stupid, but I think stupid is better then having an agenda.
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Sad but true...
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Wow, there is no draft. He signed up, maybe he should have picked up another trade or went to college. I appreciate what the vets do a ton, but a vast majority do it because they have little other plans in life. It is kind of ironic.. There are two groups of guys I knew who signed up, out of the 50 or so military guys I've known personally. A vast majority did not do that well in school and really didn't try much else in life or were doing it for the money/student loan payment... then the other % I knew were some of the smartest guys I have ever met and were actually doing it for their country. These guys could be making 6 figures within 2-3 years out of school, but decided not to.
Either way.. you sign up for it, you know the risks, if you don't like these risks.. then DON'T JOIN.
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Hey you're quite stupid yourself so saying Bush was better makes perfect sense.
You like Obama? He is a moron. Probably an illegal plant.
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he volunteered to be a pawn in their game. now he cries about it?
x2. He probably join the army for the easy money he thought he could make. Now that he has been knee deep in the cowpat, he's whining. Why didn't he desert if he really was against this "senseless war". ::)
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bush and chenny, the greatest mass murderers so far in the 21st century. It's still early so they may lose the title, but right now it's theirs.
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I just hope that if hell does exist, the Bush Cheney administration spends some time there.
There should be a place for Obama and Hillary too!
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bush and chenny, the greatest mass murderers so far in the 21st century. It's still early so they may lose the title, but right now it's theirs.
Why? He had to act after 9/11.
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Why? He had to act after 9/11.
You can't even play the devil's advocate. Fool.
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Why? He had to act after 9/11.
Please, connect the attacks of 9/11 to Iraq for us! ;D
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Why? He had to act after 9/11.
By invading Iraq and killing hundreds of thousands of people that had nothing to do with 9/11?
That's like me killing all of the members of the Portland City Council because Phil beat Kai.
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How about actually reading the letter. He clearly states that its the Iraq war he is against and he signed up after 9/11 to fight terrorism. Sure he was gullible but it doesn't change the fact that the US shouldnt have been in Iraq.
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He volunteered for the army. No one forced him. He needs to live by his decisions. Fucking freeloader.
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Its actually quite easy. America, fuck yeah!
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Its actually quite easy. America, fuck yeah!
I can't disagree with you there!
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He volunteered for the army. No one forced him. He needs to live by his decisions. Fucking freeloader.
People make these decisions under various environmental influences. Peer pressure, media pressure, deception, misinformation, propaganda. He is not entirely responsible for his circumstances, others are as well.
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I wish I joined the military. I yearn for proper disipline and order. I could have made special forces.
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To all you assholes who said he volunteered and quit whining, have never been a part of something bigger than yourselves!! So the measure of a man is to make six figures? Typical "frat boy" mentality. When mom and dad pay for college it is easy to judge. I served six years in the US Navy, got out and raised a family. To all who said you could have been special forces, give me a fucking break. Why didn't you sign up? Eat a bag of shit and die!
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Those thieving warmongers should be hanged for their crimes.
Besides their own soldiers, dying for no reason besides lining their leaders pockets, how many Iraqi's have died.....?
How many people would still be ALIVE today if not for these warmongers?
Then these same criminals accuse other countries of 'human rights abuses' while they've killed up up to a MILLION people or more either directly or indirectly as a result of their illegal war.
Any other country that defies the UN will get invaded but the USA can ignore the UN and invade.
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Do you want to know the sad truth? He signed up for it. I have long thought that I should have served in the special forces. That does not mean that I would blame other people for what happened. You sign on the dotted line.
He like the rest of the country was mislead and lied to!
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To all you assholes who said he volunteered and quit whining, have never been a part of something bigger than yourselves!! So the measure of a man is to make six figures? Typical "frat boy" mentality. When mom and dad pay for college it is easy to judge. I served six years in the US Navy, got out and raised a family. To all who said you could have been special forces, give me a fucking break. Why didn't you sign up? Eat a bag of shit and die!
I agree with you bro. I was gonna rape the assholes of these dumbfucks. But it wasn't worth my time.
Volunteer to be a pawn? Yeah, cause that's what we signed up for. Stupid American Scum.
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Coach loves Bush and Cheney
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why is he in hospice?
whats wrong with him?
odds are its heme-iron related
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why is he in hospice?
whats wrong with him?
odds are its heme-iron related
Probably eating bacon.
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Feel for him. Signed up when emotions ran high, thinking he could trust his government to not put him in harms way unless absolutely necessary. Apparently he forgot about Vietnam. I've got no problem risking my life to defend my country, but Iraq wasn't a threat to my country and it sucks so many died for stupid reasons. I certainly support the troops, it's not about the troops, it's about a government of non military wanks who will throw american lives away because ....because...well I haven't figured that part out..
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Feel for him. Signed up when emotions ran high, thinking he could trust his government to not put him in harms way unless absolutely necessary. Apparently he forgot about Vietnam. I've got no problem risking my life to defend my country, but Iraq wasn't a threat to my country and it sucks so many died for stupid reasons. I certainly support the troops, it's not about the troops, it's about a government of non military wanks who will throw american lives away because ....because...well I haven't figured that part out..
I think Vietnam was even more justifiable than Iraq.
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The rich dump the po' in a meatgrinder. Democracy deshmocracy. Same as it ever was.
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Dying vet’s ‘fuck you’ letter to Bush&Cheney needs to be read by every American
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To: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney
From: Tomas Young
I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.
I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost spouses, on behalf of children who have lost a parent, on behalf of the fathers and mothers who have lost sons and daughters and on behalf of those who care for the many thousands of my fellow veterans who have brain injuries. I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all—the human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief.
I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power. I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions more in Iraq and the Middle East, know fully who you are and what you have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.
Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.
I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to “liberate” Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called “democracy” in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq’s oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level—moral, strategic, military and economic—Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences.
I would not be writing this letter if I had been wounded fighting in Afghanistan against those forces that carried out the attacks of 9/11. Had I been wounded there I would still be miserable because of my physical deterioration and imminent death, but I would at least have the comfort of knowing that my injuries were a consequence of my own decision to defend the country I love. I would not have to lie in my bed, my body filled with painkillers, my life ebbing away, and deal with the fact that hundreds of thousands of human beings, including children, including myself, were sacrificed by you for little more than the greed of oil companies, for your alliance with the oil sheiks in Saudi Arabia, and your insane visions of empire.
I have, like many other disabled veterans, suffered from the inadequate and often inept care provided by the Veterans Administration. I have, like many other disabled veterans, come to realize that our mental and physical wounds are of no interest to you, perhaps of no interest to any politician. We were used. We were betrayed. And we have been abandoned. You, Mr. Bush, make much pretense of being a Christian. But isn’t lying a sin? Isn’t murder a sin? Aren’t theft and selfish ambition sins? I am not a Christian. But I believe in the Christian ideal. I believe that what you do to the least of your brothers you finally do to yourself, to your own soul.
My day of reckoning is upon me. Yours will come. I hope you will be put on trial. But mostly I hope, for your sakes, that you find the moral courage to face what you have done to me and to many, many others who deserved to live. I hope that before your time on earth ends, as mine is now ending, you will find the strength of character to stand before the American public and the world, and in particular the Iraqi people, and beg for forgiveness.
—Tomas Young
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He did join the military you know. Getting killed or seriously wounded is part of the job description, no matter where they are sent or for what cause, justified or not. What does you or he expect at this point?
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He did join the military you know. Getting killed or seriously wounded is part of the job description, no matter where they are sent or for what cause, justified or not. What does you or he expect at this point?
he expected to be in a legitimate war
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he expected to be in a legitimate war
Thank you. 8)
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Got one piece of advise for potential soldiers...you get paid a paycheck to do whatever the gov wants you to do..don't complain if you don't like the mission or the decisions officials make..wether they are right or not, it's not your problem..you are en employe....don't link the mission, get a different job..
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he expected to be in a legitimate war
War never determines who is right, only who is left.
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Feel for him. Signed up when emotions ran high, thinking he could trust his government to not put him in harms way unless absolutely necessary. Apparently he forgot about Vietnam. I've got no problem risking my life to defend my country, but Iraq wasn't a threat to my country and it sucks so many died for stupid reasons. I certainly support the troops, it's not about the troops, it's about a government of non military wanks who will throw american lives away because ....because...well I haven't figured that part out..
Business....money.
In first world countries and with our allies, we conduct business across a boardroom table...in third world countries and with our enemies, we conduct business with bullets.
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He volunteered for the army. No one forced him. He needs to live by his decisions. Fucking freeloader.
Volunteered
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I truly respect anyone who serves and risks their lives.. But I do take exception to some of what he said.. You do not get to determine where you serve.. Why the war is being waged no matter how shitty the reason for such war.. Or where you go.. You serve knowing that they can send you anywhere at anytime to kill and fight for American interests... No matter how slimy..
So before one enlists for their college assistance.. Or to get various breaks for university.. Know that you can get sent out to fight.. Reminds me of some of the enlisted throwing fits during the first Iraq war when hey enlisted for college and found out way were being shipped overseas...
I do feel for him.. But remember that the vast majority of wars are not for righteous reasons.. They are for greed and land... The day of the " honorable war" is over.. You now will most likely will fight for "American interests" .. Money...
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Dying vet’s ‘fuck you’ letter to Bush&Cheney needs to be read by every American
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To: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney
From: Tomas Young
I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.
I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost spouses, on behalf of children who have lost a parent, on behalf of the fathers and mothers who have lost sons and daughters and on behalf of those who care for the many thousands of my fellow veterans who have brain injuries. I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all—the human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief.
I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power. I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions more in Iraq and the Middle East, know fully who you are and what you have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.
Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.
I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not joinmy to “liberate” Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called “democracy” in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq’s oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level—moral, strategic, military and economic—Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences.
I would not be writing this letter if I had been wounded fighting in Afghanistan against those forces that carried out the attacks of 9/11. Had I been wounded there I would still be miserable because of my physical deterioration and imminent death, but I would at least have the comfort of knowing that my injuries were a consequence of my own decision to defend the country I love. I would not have to lie in my bed, my body filled with painkillers, my life ebbing away, and deal with the fact that hundreds of thousands of human beings, including children, including myself, were sacrificed by you for little more than the greed of oil companies, for your alliance with the oil sheiks in Saudi Arabia, and your insane visions of empire.
I have, like many other disabled veterans, suffered from the inadequate and often inept care provided by the Veterans Administration. I have, like many other disabled veterans, come to realize that our mental and physical wounds are of no interest to you, perhaps of no interest to any politician. We were used. We were betrayed. And we have been abandoned. You, Mr. Bush, make much pretense of being a Christian. But isn’t lying a sin? Isn’t murder a sin? Aren’t theft and selfish ambition sins? I am not a Christian. But I believe in the Christian ideal. I believe that what you do to the least of your brothers you finally do to yourself, to your own soul.
My day of reckoning is upon me. Yours will come. I hope you will be put on trial. But mostly I hope, for your sakes, that you find the moral courage to face what you have done to me and to many, many others who deserved to live. I hope that before your time on earth ends, as mine is now ending, you will find the strength of character to stand before the American public and the world, and in particular the Iraqi people, and beg for forgiveness.
—Tomas Young
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Maybe you missed the memo by the entire marine corps, or as dumbshit Obama calls it Marine "corpse" telling Harry Reid to Fuck off, as a matter of fact the majority of the armed forces are telling Obama and the left to Fuck off. Fuck you Benny, you hate this country as.much of not more than Obama. Your.kind isn't wanted Here.
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Why? He had to act after 9/11.
kill yourself you dumb fuck ;D
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He volunteered for the army. No one forced him. He needs to live by his decisions. Fucking freeloader.
THIS x100!
Good post El Diablo Blanco...
This guy has no one to blame but himself. He shouldn't have signed up if he didn't want to face the consequences but I guess the money was too much to turn down.
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Life is tough, man. He is still alive and gets to live the time he has left.
A lot of better people, who might have really changed the world for the better were swept off the game board way too early.
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my day of reckoning is upon me. Yours will come. I hope you will be put on trial. But mostly I hope, for your sakes, that you find the moral courage to face what you have done to me and to many, many others who deserved to live. I hope that before your time on earth ends, as mine is now ending, you will find the strength of character to stand before the American public and the world, and in particular the Iraqi people, and beg for forgiveness.
does anyone DESERVE to live??? REALLY???
Seems more like a privilege.
You DESERVE to live, really???
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does anyone DESERVE to live??? REALLY???
Seems more like a privilege.
You DESERVE to live, really???
My hope for you is that you GROW SOME FUCKING STONES!!!!!
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY LITTLE KIDS ARE BORN WITH TERMINAL ILLNESSES? You don't deserve to live, you fucking scum. NO ONE does. It's a rare privilege.
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Sickening entitlement = "I deserve to live"
SO FUCKING PISSED OFF
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You GET to live shit stain.
How many people are terminal by ACCIDENT????
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fucking disgusting
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Master Blaster you forgot to switch gimmicks.
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he expected to be in a legitimate war
More ignorance, holy shit, you dumbass lefties are coming out of the woodwork.
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Master Blaster you forgot to switch gimmicks.
master blaster having a mini-meltdown in here
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Master Blaster is aware that "He doesn't deserve to LIVE', he doesn't want to FEEL entitled.
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He could have refused the service and gone to jail no?
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it's funny that most people here would go apeshit if they were lied to at macdonalds about how much onion was in their burguer and how they bought it because they tought there was more but this guy got lied to about signing off his life to fight a bullshit war and everyone says he deserved it!
AHAHAHAH only on getbig
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One of his points is that he was part of an illegal war which has killed up to a million innocent people (apparently), displaced how many more and destroyed much of what was a functioning country even though under a dictatorship, but at least these million people were still alive.
America has killed more than any terrorists or dictators in the last 10 years and the point is that the soldier enlisted as he thought he would be fighting for his country instead of lining the pockets of contractors and the leadership.
Those that died in Iraq died for nothing. A complete waste. Iraq is now even more of a shit-hole and will now have an extremist government who is friendly with Iran. Nice one.
Him and all the other soldiers are just viewed as cannon fodder who probably in the minds of the rich and the leadership deserve to die anyway as they're mostly poor, uneducated and from the bottom rungs of society.
The elites laugh at you people and view you as disposable trash as its your 'job' to die anyway.
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THIS x100!
Good post El Diablo Blanco...
This guy has no one to blame but himself. He shouldn't have signed up if he didn't want to face the consequences but I guess the money was too much to turn down.
Easy to say 12 years after the fact, but when 9/11 happened enlistments went through the roof because Americans were pissed, and felt a patriotic duty to fight back. Can't really expect 18 and 19 yr olds to take a step back and think "Wait a minute, even though I'm looking at smoldering rubble where 3000 Americans died a horrible death at the hands of terrorists, and I am willing to die to defend against them, if I join to fight back, the government may send me off to a country that had nothing to do with it and I could wind up dying for no reason.
Having served myself, I can empathize with him. Again, I would and have risked my life defending fellow Americans, but ... I'd be pissed if I found myself being thrown into a war that has no reason to exist. I guess I just value human life more than politicians
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From The Onion: 'Ten Years Later, Cheney Haunted By People He Didn't Manage To Kill In Iraq War: In a rare, candid interview, former Vice President Dick Cheney admitted he regrets that he couldn’t produce more casualties in the decade-long conflict.'
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My favorite story is how $8 billion in cash, Pallets of $100's and $50's to be distributed in Iraq went missing. lol. Some group of fucking American consultants are sitting on a massive pile of cash out there somewhere.
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No one is undermining or demeaning the military, what we are saying is that he made his decision to join. At that point he is supposed to as told correct? Fighting a war whether legit or not is still a war. If Bush lied or didn't, it wouldn't have stopped th fact that thousands of soldiers died. But they live and die by their decisions. If you decide to go skydiving and your parachute fails to open. You need to take some blame for deciding to jump out of a plane. In his letter he took zero ownership of his decision. Sure Bush and Cheney are scum fuckers but this guy needs to take a big chunk of the blame first. Guaranteed he was eager as fuck to go and kill some islams. I bet he was drooling at the thought of killing arabs. So fuck him.
To all you assholes who said he volunteered and quit whining, have never been a part of something bigger than yourselves!! So the measure of a man is to make six figures? Typical "frat boy" mentality. When mom and dad pay for college it is easy to judge. I served six years in the US Navy, got out and raised a family. To all who said you could have been special forces, give me a fucking break. Why didn't you sign up? Eat a bag of shit and die!
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No one is undermining or demeaning the military, what we are saying is that he made his decision to join. At that point he is supposed to as told correct? Fighting a war whether legit or not is still a war. If Bush lied or didn't, it wouldn't have stopped th fact that thousands of soldiers died. But they live and die by their decisions. If you decide to go skydiving and your parachute fails to open. You need to take some blame for deciding to jump out of a plane. In his letter he took zero ownership of his decision. Sure Bush and Cheney are scum fuckers but this guy needs to take a big chunk of the blame first. Guaranteed he was eager as fuck to go and kill some islams. I bet he was drooling at the thought of killing arabs. So fuck him.
Wow. 10 years ago saw ultra-patriotism, unswerving faith in the troops, and those who questioned the war were denounced as un-American, unpatriotic, and terrorist sympathizers. Flash forward 10 years years: 'Fuck him.' Time flies.
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Nah, I was saying fuck him 10 years ago as well. Just look at that retard football player who turned down millions in the NFL and who was eager to kill muslims and gets killed by Americans who covered it up.
Wow. 10 years ago saw ultra-patriotism, unswerving faith in the troops, and those who questioned the war were denounced as un-American, unpatriotic, and terrorist sympathizers. Flash forward 10 years years: 'Fuck him.' Time flies.
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Nah, I was saying fuck him 10 years ago as well. Just look at that retard football player who turned down millions in the NFL and who was eager to kill muslims and gets killed by Americans who covered it up.
For a second I forgot who you were.. The above post reminded me. I apologize for responding to one of your posts. Won't happen again
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My favorite story is how $8 billion in cash, Pallets of $100's and $50's to be distributed in Iraq went missing. lol. Some group of fucking American consultants are sitting on a massive pile of cash out there somewhere.
Can you say Halliburton!
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Easy to say 12 years after the fact, but when 9/11 happened enlistments went through the roof because Americans were pissed, and felt a patriotic duty to fight back. Can't really expect 18 and 19 yr olds to take a step back and think "Wait a minute, even though I'm looking at smoldering rubble where 3000 Americans died a horrible death at the hands of terrorists, and I am willing to die to defend against them, if I join to fight back, the government may send me off to a country that had nothing to do with it and I could wind up dying for no reason.
Having served myself, I can empathize with him. Again, I would and have risked my life defending fellow Americans, but ... I'd be pissed if I found myself being thrown into a war that has no reason to exist. I guess I just value human life more than politicians
so you say that war in iraq has no reason to exist? I agree with you and so do many others. But how do you know this? The media or tv wont tell you this. But what and who told you? The internet and the people out there who care to learn and dig up the info and truth told you.Today most reasonable people with brains know this as well, because its pretty irrefutable, especially now in hindsight, and has become majority opinion now.
So next time someone says something that goes against the grain, dont call them conspiracy nuts. They just may know something you havent had the courage to look into.
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Easy to say 12 years after the fact, but when 9/11 happened enlistments went through the roof because Americans were pissed, and felt a patriotic duty to fight back. Can't really expect 18 and 19 yr olds to take a step back and think "Wait a minute, even though I'm looking at smoldering rubble where 3000 Americans died a horrible death at the hands of terrorists, and I am willing to die to defend against them, if I join to fight back, the government may send me off to a country that had nothing to do with it and I could wind up dying for no reason.
And thats exactly why Bush and Blair carried out the pantomine among the rubble with Bush chanting USA like Hacksaw Jim Duggan. Whether 9/11 was an inside job to stimulate patriotic desire for a middle east invasion or whether Bush and Blair just took advantage of a real terrorist situation they sure got the result they wanted.
Guys like this dying fellow reacted exactly the way they hoped. Therefore Bush, Cheney and Blair will not be bothered, they will probably be reading this guys letter and saying YOU DON'T SAY ::) ::) ::) and rolling their eyes.
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fucking disgusting
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One of his points is that he was part of an illegal war which has killed up to a million innocent people (apparently), displaced how many more and destroyed much of what was a functioning country even though under a dictatorship, but at least these million people were still alive.
America has killed more than any terrorists or dictators in the last 10 years and the point is that the soldier enlisted as he thought he would be fighting for his country instead of lining the pockets of contractors and the leadership.
Those that died in Iraq died for nothing. A complete waste. Iraq is now even more of a shit-hole and will now have an extremist government who is friendly with Iran. Nice one.
Him and all the other soldiers are just viewed as cannon fodder who probably in the minds of the rich and the leadership deserve to die anyway as they're mostly poor, uneducated and from the bottom rungs of society.
The elites laugh at you people and view you as disposable trash as its your 'job' to die anyway.
^ this...
a bunch of retards posting up shit and completely missing the point the guy was trying to make... fucking getbiggers eh!
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Easy to say 12 years after the fact, but when 9/11 happened enlistments went through the roof because Americans were pissed, and felt a patriotic duty to fight back. Can't really expect 18 and 19 yr olds to take a step back and think "Wait a minute, even though I'm looking at smoldering rubble where 3000 Americans died a horrible death at the hands of terrorists, and I am willing to die to defend against them, if I join to fight back, the government may send me off to a country that had nothing to do with it and I could wind up dying for no reason.
Having served myself, I can empathize with him. Again, I would and have risked my life defending fellow Americans, but ... I'd be pissed if I found myself being thrown into a war that has no reason to exist. I guess I just value human life more than politicians
Of course we couldn't and wouldn't expect them to "think wait a minute", because all these welfare queens bitches were too eager to shoot up any Arab or a person with a Turban. Every white American thought they had a just cause to go overseas and fuck over men, women, and children in the Middle East -- supposedly from a country that prides itself on justice and access to justice.
F$uck this shit.
Hindsight is 20/20. Serves most people right - when it comes to their immortality.
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Shave & a haircut. 2 bits.
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SO THE FUK WHAT HE WROTE A LETTER
IT DOESNT MEAN SHIT BECAUSE NO ONE IS GOING TO DO SHIT
YOU THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO RISE BECAUSE OF THIS LETTER HAHA
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Wow. 10 years ago saw ultra-patriotism, unswerving faith in the troops, and those who questioned the war were denounced as un-American, unpatriotic, and terrorist sympathizers. Flash forward 10 years years: 'Fuck him.' Time flies.
Well you don`t sign up for the military in order to avoid going to war, any war. He would have a good argument had he been drafted, but that is not the case. The military only works because people follow orders.
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Probably eating bacon.
exactly the real issue is why is he in hospice is he constipated from no vegetables in a month only eating bacon? of course hes gonna feel like death
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Well you don`t sign up for the military in order to avoid going to war, any war. He would have a good argument had he been drafted, but that is not the case. The military only works because people follow orders.
That's even too much milk fat than even you can use. ;D
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Hey you're quite stupid yourself so saying Bush was better makes perfect sense.
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Brush was the worst modern president ever. And as a Texan, that sickens me. >:(
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Brush was the worst modern president ever. And as a Texan, that sickens me. >:(
Obama is horrible. The only thing Bush did was get rid of a dictator, who frequently murdered his own countryman. They were also terrorist sympathisers, and more then likely aided them at some point. Iraq needed to be taught a lesson.
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Obama is horrible. The only thing Bush did was get rid of a dictator, who frequently murdered his own countryman. They were also terrorist sympathisers, and more then likely aided them at some point. Iraq needed to be taught a lesson.
Stop trolling
http://www.bengarvey.com/2008/08/07/31-reasons-why-bush-is-a-bad-president/
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Stop trolling
http://www.bengarvey.com/2008/08/07/31-reasons-why-bush-is-a-bad-president/
Seriously, I don't give a shit about politics. After 9/11, we needed to show the world who was boss. Pure and simple. Don't harbor terrorists.
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Seriously, I don't give a shit about politics. After 9/11, we needed to show the world who was boss. Pure and simple. Don't harbor terrorists.
^^^ This explains a lot, most dumb fucks have little interest in Politics and how the World works. FYI United States of America is the leading terrorist state, one doesn't have to look to far to find evidence for this.
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^^^ This explains a lot, most dumb fucks have little interest in Politics and how the World works. FYI United States of America is the leading terrorist state, one doesn't have to look to far to find evidence for this.
In terms of killing people and destruction to property, then yes.
Has North Korea even killed as many people in the last 10 years or even China?
I doubt they've killed a MILLION people, destroyed as much property, inflicted as much poverty and caused as many refugees as America.
And then they've also caused HATRED towards the West because of their bombing of Arab countries and their military bases in the region.
The mentality of their leadership is not pragmatic.
And no, I'm not a 'liberal' or leftist, just realistic.
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In terms of killing people and destruction to property, then yes.
Has North Korea even killed as many people in the last 10 years or even China?
I doubt they've killed a MILLION people, destroyed as much property, inflicted as much poverty and caused as many refugees as America.
And then they've also caused HATRED towards the West because of their bombing of Arab countries and their military bases in the region.
The mentality of their leadership is not pragmatic.
And no, I'm not a 'liberal' or leftist, just realistic.