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“How do prisoners get so big?” Afterall, they eat a terrible, nutrition deprived diet, they probably don’t take any supplements, some of them don’t have weights to lift, they exercise seemingly non-stop. In fact, everything they do in regards to weight training goes against the conventional advice of eat at least 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, don’t lift more than 3 or 4 days per week, drink water non-stop, take supplements, rest when you’re outside of the gym, bodyweight exercises don’t add muscle, exercise one muscle per session only once per week, and don’t exercise for more than 45 minutes a day.
This is another example of why *conventional* advice is always wrong.
(http://boldanddetermined.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/c-23.jpeg)
http://boldanddetermined.com/2011/06/24/how-prisoners-get-so-muscular/
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The article is dumb, but I watch Lockup and all these guys look better than 90% of gym goers. Some of them may be on smuggled juice, but they all couldn't be. What can we learn from these guys?
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Prisoners probably have higher test levels than the average person
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Training Lessons from Prison Guys
Yesterday I gave you a training video of prison guys. Several of those guys in that video were big, muscular and Squatting over 400lbs. What's their secret?
You can be sure that their secret is NOT their diet. Prison guys are NOT doing any of the stuff muscle magazines keep saying is crucial for muscle gains...
Prison guys DON'T eat slow protein pre bed
Prison guys also DON'T eat fast protein post workout
Prison guys definitely DON'T have protein every 3 hours
In prison you get 3 meals per day. Low quality, low protein meals. That's it. And in some US states, as reported by the NY Times in June 2009, inmates only get 2 meals/day. This proves that diet matters less than training for muscle gains.
Yes, supplements and steroids could be accessible in prison, but they would be expensive. And remember plenty of guys are drinking 3 shakes per day without getting anywhere. Same with steroids: I've seen enough drug-using lifters who had yo-yo muscle gains depending on whether they were on or off their cycle.
Genetics? That's the cop out everyone uses when nothing they're doing works when in fact they're using ineffective training methods OR simply not putting enough work in the gym. But nobody likes to hear that story.
Charles Bronson, author of "Solitary Fitness", spent 34 years in prison (mostly in solitary confinement) and could do Push-ups with 2 men on his back and on a crappy diet. They made a movie about him in 2008 by the way - "Bronson" - starring Tom Hardy (that's the guy from Inception and the upcoming Mad Max).
Training is the secret of prison guys. Watch the video again. Listen to what they say. These guys don't drag themselves to the gym, it's the only thing they have. Look at the atmosphere in the gym: their motivation is high. You won't stay skinny and weak if you train like them, whatever your diet is.
Prison guys aren't the only group of people who get muscular using the worst diet ever. Tomorrow I'm going to give you another example... Olympic athletes.
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Maslow says:
September 9, 2010 at 5:19 pm
No doubt training with that intensity makes a huge difference. They also get plenty of rest, don’t drain themselves mentally at work all day and never take days off. Man, I never want to go to prison. I took a class on corrections in college and we took a field trip to a prison in Baltimore, MD USA. We saw what they eat. Lunch: 4 oz noodle salad, small peanut butter container, small jelly container, 4 slices of white bread, 6 oz milk, apple sauce. I’m sure dinner isn’t much better.
Tutsi says:
September 9, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Its a great read. Really important to remind yourself that without training hard, no diet, no supplements can make your goals a reality.
Really makes one remember to put his 100% in training and not to worry about other stuff too much.
VitoFabietti says:
September 9, 2010 at 10:33 pm
I was in West Africa a couple of months earlier this year and thought about this issue since I had heard so much about the importance of protein. Lots of peasents, mine workers, wagon carriers etc. looked very strong there and they walked around with huge wagons all day or worked their fields with biceps, cutlasses, seeds and rain as the only agricultural inputs. (Even though they didn’t squat or press I’m sure their daily tasks would carry over well to those exercises.)
People were eating on average 1,8 meals a day and not often with meat or large quantities of fish in them. Some had rice dominant meals with leafs, groundnuts and sometimes smoked fish for only 10 months out of the year and ate mostly cassava in all its forms during the 2 “lean” or “hunger” months between harvests in August and September.
ivangelico says:
September 10, 2010 at 12:05 am
Hey Mehdi… Congratulations for this new format for the blog.. I love it!!! Keep up the good work
Nicklus says:
September 10, 2010 at 5:48 am
The only thing that confuses me is that I’ve read so much about how important it is to eat enough protein. If these guys aren’t getting 1 gram of protein per pound and still getting big and strong then the whole “eat your body weight in grams of protein” thing must be another myth? I’ve always wondered about how prisoners can get so strong without being able to eat quality food and/or enough protein…
Thanks for the post.
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"Bronson" 1 of the best British films ever , just like Football Factory & This is England.
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Pic from that article.
(http://boldanddetermined.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/prison-monsters.jpg)
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the only thing to remember is SAID principle.
Specific Adaptation to imposed demand.
And that the body recalibrates its nutrients to cope with the demand and intake its getting.
Thats why eating loads of protein doesnt work.
a static intake of protein ignores the homeostasis rule of the human body.
in simplistic terms, if u give the body low protein, it configures itself to make the most of what protein it gets.
if u give it low carbs, it configures itself to get its energy from other sources
if u give it low fat, it stores energy from carbs and protein..etc etc..
no static diet works...the human body is way too smart for it to.
the body adapts to everything.
and dont take that as meaning that u need to "shock" the body..thats a myth also. The body needs time to adapt. by mixing it up all the time, it never configures itself to adapt and cope/grow.
it ends up spending all its resources on trying to configure.
once configured, it then can cope.
but, this is the simplistic version. dont start to draw long bows from this. do some reading by reputable scientists... not monkeys in the gym.
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Victor pride who has thw blog is a stupid douchebag. Read this he even saya stop watching porn gives you a darket voice lol
http://boldanddetermined.com/2011/10/20/10-reasons-to-stop-using-internet-porn/
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that article is moronic
they lift heavy yet they are stuck in their cells doing body weight exercises and the funniest is "they have low stress"
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For the record:
The article is dumb
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environment is certainly there
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yes ok, they can get cocaine and weed everyday
but somehow they cant get roids
ok ok
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Hm I'm thinking more and more:
* Supplements don't matter
* Dieting, the most important is not to eat yourself completely full, (as to what you eat)(how many of us eat "healty" 247 anyway ?)
* Training, "everything" works. HIT or volume doesnt matter
Like, just go lifting, dont eat yourself full. And you will get results: Strong and lean.
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the only thing to remember is SAID principle.
Specific Adaptation to imposed demand.
And that the body recalibrates its nutrients to cope with the demand and intake its getting.
Thats why eating loads of protein doesnt work.
a static intake of protein ignores the homeostasis rule of the human body.
in simplistic terms, if u give the body low protein, it configures itself to make the most of what protein it gets.
if u give it low carbs, it configures itself to get its energy from other sources
if u give it low fat, it stores energy from carbs and protein..etc etc..
no static diet works...the human body is way too smart for it to.
the body adapts to everything.
and dont take that as meaning that u need to "shock" the body..thats a myth also. The body needs time to adapt. by mixing it up all the time, it never configures itself to adapt and cope/grow.
it ends up spending all its resources on trying to configure.
once configured, it then can cope.
but, this is the simplistic version. dont start to draw long bows from this. do some reading by reputable scientists... not monkeys in the gym.
Excellent, ie adaptation the body will adapt to a certain degree but if taken to far it will regress. Much as in overtraining. The recovery system is limited and the system is governed by the genes a person has. Genes rule.
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yes ok, they can get cocaine and weed everyday
but somehow they cant get roids
ok ok
You gotta have some kind of cash flow to do any of that. You ain't making any money. Those dudes in the video are crazy strong for being locked up, just in another state of mind. Guys squatting 5 something and benching 4, or close to it on shit meals, ramen and maybe some tuna packets. You can't lift most places anyway these days, but that is pretty impressive stuff.
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You gotta have some kind of cash flow to do any of that. You ain't making any money. Those dudes in the video are crazy strong for being locked up, just in another state of mind. Guys squatting 5 something and benching 4, or close to it on shit meals, ramen and maybe some tuna packets. You can't lift most places anyway these days, but that is pretty impressive stuff.
roids are a lot cheaper than cocaine
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roids are a lot cheaper than cocaine
No shit? Thanks for the update. ;D
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“How do prisoners get so big?”
Maybe semen has steroid like qualities?
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lifting weights is probably their ONLY physical pleasure of the week -put aside fucking each others in the ass-. It also has a strong homoerotic appeal to them to watch each others lift weights shirtless obviously.
Amazing how humans adapt to their environments. They "overtrain" as there is nothing else to do, prolly work the exact same muscular group constantly (chest, biceps), and keep doing it more regularly than the average joe because there s simply nothing else to do. Basically they train with way more regularity than people out of prison, and get more results, just like natural people who train with a lot of consistency do . Consistency is the key there, and yes, their diet is "better" than the average joe diet simply because they have access to less food. Both factors = better muscle growth than someone who eat more crap and train less daily.
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lifting weights is probably their ONLY physical pleasure of the week -put aside fucking each others in the ass-. It also has a strong homoerotic appeal to them to watch each others lift weights shirtless obviously.
Amazing how humans adapt to their environments. They fore sure "overtrain" as there is nothing else to do, and keep doing it more regularly than the average joe because there s simply nothing else to do. Basically they train with way more regularity than people out of prison, and get more results, just like natural people who train with a lot of consistency do out of jail. Consistency is the key.
they get to sleep all they want
this has to be an advantage
they have no stress either, the ones that accepted their faith anyway
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Prisoners probably have higher test levels than the average person
this. and they dont have to walk to work and deal with kids and crazy girlfriends and all that... they lift for an hour, then sit around for 23 hours.
plus they're getting close to 3000 calories a day by law:
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2010/rpt/2010-R-0502.htm
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they get to sleep all they want
this has to be an advantage
they have no stress either, the ones that accepted their faith anyway
this too. There is also a bigger need to look big for them as it means less problems with others, less physical confrontations .so they have a bigger motivation daily than people who have less chances of being physically agressed by others even if most of free people who train do train to look bigger and avoid physical confrontations with other males by disuasion too. Being big also means there are more chances you re going to be top instead of bottom when comes the need for sexual intercourses to release stress.
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lifting weights is probably their ONLY physical pleasure of the week -put aside fucking each others in the ass-. It also has a strong homoerotic appeal to them to watch each others lift weights shirtless obviously.
Amazing how humans adapt to their environments. They "overtrain" as there is nothing else to do, prolly work the exact same muscular group constantly (chest, biceps), and keep doing it more regularly than the average joe because there s simply nothing else to do. Basically they train with way more regularity than people out of prison, and get more results, just like natural people who train with a lot of consistency do . Consistency is the key there, and yes, their diet is "better" than the average joe diet simply because they have access to less food. Both factors = better muscle growth than someone who eat more crap and train less daily.
this is probably the most significant factor
they consistently train with no breaks because they are busy at work, have to go on vacation, take their kids to the ballgame, etc..
how many of us put together a few good months of training and get in good shape and then slack off get out of shape and then start the pattern all over again
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this too. There is also a bigger need to look big for them as it means less problems with others, less physical confrontations than the average joe out of jail -so they have a bigger motivation dailythan people who have less chances of being physically agressed by others even if most of free people who train do train to look bigger and avoid physical confrontations with other males by disuasion too. Being big also means there are more chances you re going to be top instead of bottom when comes the need for sexual intercourses to release stress.
this was the funniest thing i ever read on ge(tbig
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this is probably the most significant factor
they consistently train with no breaks because they are busy at work, have to go on vacation, take their kids to the ballgame, etc..
how many of us put together a few good months of training and get in good shape and then slack off get out of shape and then start the pattern all over again
i never been so constistent than when i started in my teenage years , never got better results than at this time, simply because i had nothing else to do but work and train. Never missed any workout nor meal for at least 4 years non stop. Build my base at this time, naturally. Also had max natural test production at that time.
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A person in prison has access to drugs just like people on the street do, there are many outlets for anabolics in prison many have access to oral anabolics
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they are not even that fat so the strength has to be hormone driven
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A person in prison has access to drugs just like people on the street do, there are many outlets for anabolics in prison many have access to oral anabolics
While this is true, you have to have access to money for trades and shit. Some of the actual gangstas probably do have big commissary accounts due to shutting the fuck up, or whatever. If you can go to prison and continually do a lot of drugs, you are hooked the fuck up.
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A person in prison has access to drugs just like people on the street do, there are many outlets for anabolics in prison many have access to oral anabolics
True. I had a friend in prison people would ride by and throw drugs over the fence it was minimum security during their times of being outdoors.
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True. I had a friend in prison people would ride by and throw drugs over the fence it was minimum security during their times of being outdoors.
haha i used to throw bags of dog poo over the prison walls as i walked my dog
i wonder if i ever hit any prisoners in the head
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haha i used to throw bags of dog poo over the prison walls as i walked my dog
i wonder if i ever hit any prisoners in the head
LOL.
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Prisoners today are not as big and cut as they used to be. Many of them have to do calisthenics in secret. They get creative by using partnered-up training (yeah) and there are some that can grab ahold of the bars and do side planks, but these guys look more like Bruce Lee than Ronnie Coleman.
They can buy protein in prison. They can buy cans of tuna, etc., ~ it is very common for prisoners to have protein shakes. They can't do much in their hour outside. Depends on where they are staying.
Most of California's prisons do not allow any type of lifting, whether it be barbells or bed posts, or your roommate.
Diet does provide all the vitamins and minerals that they need, but falls short in the calorie department. They basically are doing what everyone "outside" of prison SHOULD be doing: EATING LESS!
Genetics are a huge determining factor on how big a guy gets, looks or how strong he is. Most of these guys have low bodyfat and that's about it. It's not hard to maintain low levels on a calorie-restricted diet, regardless of what you are eating.
As far as stress is concerned, they may not be going to work everyday, but they are ALL stressed out of their minds. They are stressed about being locked up, depressed, claustrophobic, worried about their kids, wondering what their old ladies are doing, worried about living the next day (depending on where they are) ~ all of these things cause HUGE amounts of stress.
If they can "accept" their situation, things become easier mentally, but this takes more mental fortitude than these guys know how to tap into, so they do hundreds of pushups and situps instead, all the while starving to death and not sleeping.
The young guys have more testosterone, but they are not using it for weight-lifting. They are using it for fighting amongst themselves and creating havoc.
Prison life = Prison death. It's a sad, sad place to be. Even the prison guards need continuous counseling just to cope with those bars.
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Most of California's prisons do not allow any type of lifting, whether it be barbells or bed posts, or your roommate.
Wasn't that done while Arnold was Governor of California?
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Prisoners today are not as big and cut as they used to be. Many of them have to do calisthenics in secret. They get creative by using partnered-up training (yeah) and there are some that can grab ahold of the bars and do side planks, but these guys look more like Bruce Lee than Ronnie Coleman.
They can buy protein in prison. They can buy cans of tuna, etc., ~ it is very common for prisoners to have protein shakes. They can't do much in their hour outside. Depends on where they are staying.
Most of California's prisons do not allow any type of lifting, whether it be barbells or bed posts, or your roommate.
Diet does provide all the vitamins and minerals that they need, but falls short in the calorie department. They basically are doing what everyone "outside" of prison SHOULD be doing: EATING LESS!
Genetics are a huge determining factor on how big a guy gets, looks or how strong he is. Most of these guys have low bodyfat and that's about it. It's not hard to maintain low levels on a calorie-restricted diet, regardless of what you are eating.
As far as stress is concerned, they may not be going to work everyday, but they are ALL stressed out of their minds. They are stressed about being locked up, depressed, claustrophobic, worried about their kids, wondering what their old ladies are doing, worried about living the next day (depending on where they are) ~ all of these things cause HUGE amounts of stress.
If they can "accept" their situation, things become easier mentally, but this takes more mental fortitude than these guys know how to tap into, so they do hundreds of pushups and situps instead, all the while starving to death and not sleeping.
The young guys have more testosterone, but they are not using it for weight-lifting. They are using it for fighting amongst themselves and creating havoc.
Prison life = Prison death. It's a sad, sad place to be. Even the prison guards need continuous counseling just to cope with those bars.
Yep, pretty much spot on.
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what a bunch of bullshit .. they take roids like all of the muscular guys you notice ..
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If they can "accept" their situation, things become easier mentally, but this takes more mental fortitude than these guys know how to tap into, so they do hundreds of pushups and situps instead, all the while starving to death and not sleeping.
they re so uneducated they probably dont undesrtand that they re basically addicted to exercice because it produces neurotransmitters that appease their stress, as simple as that. Blind process of adaptating to the environment at all costs in order to produce enough dopamine, serotonin, to have the motivation to live thru the day. We re all animals in a cage, their cage just happen to be a lot smaller than free people.
They have the choice to beat on each others , eat , fuck or exercise to release their stress. Beating on each others is counterproductive real quick except when it is reauired to submit your prison bitch or defend against someone who needs to kill you, they cant eat more than what is served to them, and cant fuck or suck each others all day long so at some point, only physical exercise is left. Ironically they probably do it because they have no choice, the physical energy has to be released one way or another .That is why they re probably so consistent: they simply have no other choice.
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they dont have to deal with women
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they dont have to deal with women
talk about lowered stress levels ;D
btw, wasn't galeniko in the hooscow for a stint?
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back in 80,s it was all good as far as training went
plenty of good food if u had a connection with inmate who worked in kitchen or officers dining room.
plenty of weights, olympic weights,power racks,dumbells,lat pull downs ect, everything a guy needed gym wise.
plenty of TIME to rest n grow,lol.
if u knew the right guys u where able to get anadrol n dbol every month, one C.O used to bring them in
u could really GETBIG in prison back than.
thats how the one south jersey prison was anyway
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secret is protein straight from the tap
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A person in prison has access to drugs just like people on the street do, there are many outlets for anabolics in prison many have access to oral anabolics
I was a correction officer for two years back in the day in NJ. This misconception that drugs are free flowing in prisons is stuff you see on tv. The cells are searched randomly but weekly. The amount of possessions in cells are few. Where would you hide it?The prisoners are strip searched on a regular basis after a contact visit. Sure an occasional joint is smuggled in. I'm telling you it's rare and the notion they are juicing in ridiculous. If you haven't been around the inside of a max prison you gather your info from tv.
They work out really hard with both weights and body weight. They run a lot too. They have basketball, boxing and equipment free tackle football. They eat, work out and sleep. There were a lot of big ripped black guys but one white guy stuck out in my mind. He was about 5'5" 185 insanely ripped. I asked him if he trained in the streets. He said when he is not in jail he does drugs, alcohol and looks like crap.
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Maybe those that are inclined to go to prison (certain mentality) are also those who are inclined to get better gains genetically?
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Maybe those that are inclined to go to prison (certain mentality) are also those who are inclined to get better gains genetically?
no racist?
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I was a correction officer for two years back in the day in NJ. This misconception that drugs are free flowing in prisons is stuff you see on tv. The cells are searched randomly but weekly. The amount of possessions in cells are few. Where would you hide it?The prisoners are strip searched on a regular basis after a contact visit. Sure an occasional joint is smuggled in. I'm telling you it's rare and the notion they are juicing in ridiculous. If you haven't been around the inside of a max prison you gather your info from tv.
They work out really hard with both weights and body weight. They run a lot too. They have basketball, boxing and equipment free tackle football. They eat, work out and sleep. There were a lot of big ripped black guys but one white guy stuck out in my mind. He was about 5'5" 185 insanely ripped. I asked him if he trained in the streets. He said when he is not in jail he does drugs, alcohol and looks like crap.
Thank you, this post sums it up.
I'm no expert, but if someone watches the show Lockup on MSNBC they'll see some amazing physiques built on carbs and bodyweight exercise.
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a prison with a powerlifting weight room and competitions doesnt strike me as a maximal security one
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Cops wanna keep em' small so that they can cuff their hands behind their backs when they get out of the pen ~
I remember Jesse Stone saying to a guy that was about to go in for life: "When was the last time you had sex with a woman?"
Reply: "None of your business"
Jesse: Well you better hurry, because it's gonna be your last time..."
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This thread crops up about three times a year. Lots of factors (as dyslexic mentions in his excellent post):
Time to exercise and time to rest
Genetics - a lot of inmates have higher natural testosterone levels (big surprise)
They often can purchase tins of tuna, noodles, peanut butter for extra meals etc..
Some jails still have full gyms with massive weights. If not, they can improvise (as convicts do) by using bodyweight exercises with a buddy adding resistance and squatting each other etc..
They do it for many years and tend to focus on compound moves with functional strength as opposed to pretty, 'shaping' exercises.
Some of them look like skinny fat shit despite all this
Steroids are probably not massively widespread in jail as if you're going to smuggle and take the risk, it's much more worthwhile to smuggle rec drugs. You can make a fortune from a smallish piece of crack, or dope, the size of two days worth of dbol.
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no racist?
I'll let you decide that anatoli :D
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This thread crops up about three times a year. Lots of factors (as dyslexic mentions in his excellent post):
Time to exercise and time to rest
Genetics - a lot of inmates have higher natural testosterone levels (big surprise)
They often can purchase tins of tuna, noodles, peanut butter for extra meals etc..
Some jails still have full gyms with massive weights. If not, they can improvise (as convicts do) by using bodyweight exercises with a buddy adding resistance and squatting each other etc..
They do it for many years and tend to focus on compound moves with functional strength as opposed to pretty, 'shaping' exercises.
Some of them look like skinny fat shit despite all this
Steroids are probably not massively widespread in jail as if you're going to smuggle and take the risk, it's much more worthwhile to smuggle rec drugs. You can make a fortune from a smallish piece of crack, or dope, the size of two days worth of dbol.
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This Steroids are absolutely nonexsitant in the joint. Heroin, crack, speed, plenty of weed, booze prescription pain pills, are all available.. Nobody had anabolics in prison, nobody.
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GENETICS....after 17 yrs in the south bx as NYPd saw the best physiques(no homo) on chicken wing eating 40 oz drinking males who would do endless pull ups on fire escape handles superseted with pushups on thefloor..WORD
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Some jails still have full gyms with massive weights. If not, they can improvise (as convicts do) by using bodyweight exercises with a buddy adding resistance and squatting each other etc..
haha yeah, i think we get the picture :-X
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GENETICS....after 17 yrs in the south bx as NYPd saw the best physiques(no homo) on chicken wing eating 40 oz drinking males who would do endless pull ups on fire escape handles superseted with pushups on thefloor..WORD
do you violate suspects along with your partner ( very homo) with plungers and other phallic items you can get your chubby hands on?
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haha i used to throw bags of dog poo over the prison walls as i walked my dog
i wonder if i ever hit any prisoners in the head
rofl
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IMHO opinion I would say:
1- long intense workouts plus 2 a days like the 70s plays a huge role, burns off the shit calories. Over training is a myth if a muscle group is sore train one that's not
2- no drugs or alcohol, this is also a huge factor
3- plenty of sleep, that's when you grow/recover
4- bunch of alphas trying to out do one another has to push you to the next level of intensity. Being so pissed about being locked up too.
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Can't speak for the USA but everyone I know from the UK who has been to prison and currently juices started juicing IN prison.
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IMHO opinion I would say:
1- long intense workouts plus 2 a days like the 70s plays a huge role, burns off the shit calories. Over training is a myth if a muscle group is sore train one that's not
2- no drugs or alcohol, this is also a huge factor
3- plenty of sleep, that's when you grow/recover
4- bunch of alphas trying to out do one another has to push you to the next level of intensity. Being so pissed about being locked up too.
Yup ill add.
Better workouts because they aren't getting any sex and need to burn off the aggression.
Low stress levels so their hormones are in check.
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IMHO opinion I would say:
4- bunch of alphas trying to out do one another has to push you to the next level of intensity. Being so pissed about being locked up too.
5- no diaper changes
6- no crying babies
7- no diaper changes
8- no constant meltdowns
9- no diaper changes (all day long with multiple kids needing diaper changes)
10- no constant smell of diapers that need changing: constantly rushing in and grabbing a kid with a leaky diaper while other kids are crying and/or watching super loud kids shows and also needing diaper changes
11- no kid meltdowns because they want to watch kid shows even though you need to change their diapers
12- no doing homework again even though you swore you would never do home work again, but now you have to do it better because it's not your homework, it's your KID'S home work and you have to get it right and it feels like it's going to give you a stroke
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Prison sucks in so many ways.... ::)
Nope.... not kidding.
Most of the worst prisons are in Cali. One in NY.
Pelican Bay...
and don't forget the MOST valued possession.....
cigarettes!
Kill or be killed for one... or a few... and still manage to *workout* :o
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1 They don't work out every day, there isn't enough equipment for everyone to work out during the same break.
2 Notice how most of them sit around waiting for their few minutes of time to work out.
So they don't over train, it's just a few intense minutes sporadically in a week. And don't eat useless high protein.
These two things will make anyone muscular and optimally strong.
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Can't speak for the USA but everyone I know from the UK who has been to prison and currently juices started juicing IN prison.
Exactly. I had a pal come out after a 3 stretch a while back, and had never lifted weights in his life prior to that. He comes to the gym with me and we do chest, he's fucking putting up 55kg a side on the bench for 8 solid reps unassisted lol, I ask him how the fuck he got gear inside and he insists it was PURE creatine and a tuna hookup he had in the canteen hahaha
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Hmmmmm from personal experience seen.....
Lot of first timers have severe anxiety once in and can't/refuse to eat. This gets you sent to the doctor inside. They will check you off for meal replacement drinks (ensure, or whatever they got in there). Now when you got that to drink, some guy is gonna say "give it to me" and this nervous wreck will hand it over. So there's some extra protein/cals.
Prisoners who work in the kitchen steal/eat while the guard isn't looking. These delicasies can be so delicious as a tortilla wrap with peanut butter, ramen noodle, and tuna all stuffed as much as possible and scarfed as quickly as can be.
Rec drugs are easier to get inside than on the street. Everyone knows who deals and they will sell to anyone. If you turn into a rat it's easy to find you and be dealt with. Just cuz a prisoner makes no money doesn't mean their momma/wife/whatever isn't paying someone on the outside for what you do inside.
Extortion works well inside. You may have to pay someone for protection. A measly $2 a day for him to make sure you live relative stress free. He will do this for many people. $60 x ? people a month
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I was a correction officer for two years back in the day in NJ. This misconception that drugs are free flowing in prisons is stuff you see on tv. The cells are searched randomly but weekly. The amount of possessions in cells are few. Where would you hide it?The prisoners are strip searched on a regular basis after a contact visit. Sure an occasional joint is smuggled in. I'm telling you it's rare and the notion they are juicing in ridiculous. If you haven't been around the inside of a max prison you gather your info from tv.
They work out really hard with both weights and body weight. They run a lot too. They have basketball, boxing and equipment free tackle football. They eat, work out and sleep. There were a lot of big ripped black guys but one white guy stuck out in my mind. He was about 5'5" 185 insanely ripped. I asked him if he trained in the streets. He said when he is not in jail he does drugs, alcohol and looks like crap.
thats true oldtimer, but back in the late 80,s n early 90,s drugs where flowing like crazy in the joint, even oral steroids. atleast in bordentown(albert c. wagner) in south jersey they where, used to get them in the prison from inmates wives or girlfriends back then. the visitors used to come to the food booth where they used to serve hotdogs n stuff n pass them off, the drugs where always in balloons.then at the end of visits the food worker inmates would stuff the balloons in their asses n get stripped searched n head back the the pods or wings, then bang, they would sit down like they r shitting n push the balloons out. then when bigyard was called out they would meet up with the guy whos girl brought them in and pass them off. bordentown back then rarely did shakedowns, unless a guy got smashed with a lock in the sock or shanked. saturday nights people would be nodding out from herion everywhere on the pod, the boxing rings n olympic weight room was nice back than.one officer used to bring in blackberry brandy every saturday night for certain high roller inmates. my buddy told me all this when he was in there
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thats true oldtimer, but back in the late 80,s n early 90,s drugs where flowing like crazy in the joint, even oral steroids. atleast in bordentown(albert c. wagner) in south jersey they where, used to get them in the prison from inmates wives or girlfriends back then. the visitors used to come to the food booth where they used to serve hotdogs n stuff n pass them off, the drugs where always in balloons.then at the end of visits the food worker inmates would stuff the balloons in their asses n get stripped searched n head back the the pods or wings, then bang, they would sit down like they r shitting n push the balloons out. then when bigyard was called out they would meet up with the guy whos girl brought them in and pass them off. bordentown back then rarely did shakedowns, unless a guy got smashed with a lock in the sock or shanked. saturday nights people would be nodding out from herion everywhere on the pod, the boxing rings n olympic weight room was nice back than.one officer used to bring in blackberry brandy every saturday night for certain high roller inmates. my buddy told me all this when he was in there
I never used roids, but i see one real problem about roids use in prison. Don't you have to have your whole cycle and PCT on hand before you start? Im thinking hiding that much gear for a long time would be a really big problem in prison.
Plus if you dont have PCT and you start getting tits in an all male place, i can see guys thinking you a bitch fuck toy. ???
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the only way to gain mass and strenght for a natural : eat like a pig, train on basic coumpound plus stuff for arm, do a lot of set
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the only way to gain mass and strenght for a natural : eat like a pig, train on basic coumpound plus stuff for arm, do a lot of set
yes that way you will look "big" and fat
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Have any of you even seen a prisoner lately? How many muscular inmates actually exist, maybe 4? PURE genetics. They're genetically muscular. That's why they're big. A few push-ups and they're done.
There's a lot of lean skinny guys in jail. And a few genetic fat fuckers too.
Show me these supposedly huge and ripped prisoners who got that way on the inside and I'll show you Craigers.
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Its because over training is a myth. Lifting 2 hours everyday will get you more huge than lifting 3x per week.
Also lots of them do get gear. And lots of them force feed pretty hard.
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“How do prisoners get so big?” Afterall, they eat a terrible, nutrition deprived diet, they probably don’t take any supplements, some of them don’t have weights to lift, they exercise seemingly non-stop. In fact, everything they do in regards to weight training goes against the conventional advice of eat at least 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, don’t lift more than 3 or 4 days per week, drink water non-stop, take supplements, rest when you’re outside of the gym, bodyweight exercises don’t add muscle, exercise one muscle per session only once per week, and don’t exercise for more than 45 minutes a day.
This is another example of why *conventional* advice is always wrong.
(http://boldanddetermined.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/c-23.jpeg)
http://boldanddetermined.com/2011/06/24/how-prisoners-get-so-muscular/
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Have any of you even seen a prisoner lately? How many muscular inmates actually exist, maybe 4? PURE genetics. They're genetically muscular. That's why they're big. A few push-ups and they're done.
There's a lot of lean skinny guys in jail. And a few genetic fat fuckers too.
Show me these supposedly huge and ripped prisoners who got that way on the inside and I'll show you Craigers.
I've seen many....I can't show them...but I've seen them. Also, it seems that many do PCP as well. I've asked one guy about the PCP (he was 5'7 about 180) and he said that it was like Viagra to him...I've seen another dude who was 5'5 (again PCP) and 220, and had forearms that would make Lee Priest proud. He looked like a brick...I"ve noticed that many of the diesel dudes do PCP, it could be the area as well. But, remember tookie used to do PCP as well.
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“How do prisoners get so big?” Afterall, they eat a terrible, nutrition deprived diet, they probably don’t take any supplements, some of them don’t have weights to lift, they exercise seemingly non-stop. In fact, everything they do in regards to weight training goes against the conventional advice of eat at least 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, don’t lift more than 3 or 4 days per week, drink water non-stop, take supplements, rest when you’re outside of the gym, bodyweight exercises don’t add muscle, exercise one muscle per session only once per week, and don’t exercise for more than 45 minutes a day.
This is another example of why *conventional* advice is always wrong.
(http://boldanddetermined.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/c-23.jpeg)
Believe it or not a lot in a lot if prisons you can have protein powder
Also commesary if you have someone wiring you doe you can stock up on all kinds of junk food and snacks and small meals.
Trust me. Iv been to commisary when I was very young and had the opportunity to eat 5000 calories a day on that food. Besides the three meals a day
http://boldanddetermined.com/2011/06/24/how-prisoners-get-so-muscular/
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5- no diaper changes
6- no crying babies
7- no diaper changes
8- no constant meltdowns
9- no diaper changes (all day long with multiple kids needing diaper changes)
10- no constant smell of diapers that need changing: constantly rushing in and grabbing a kid with a leaky diaper while other kids are crying and/or watching super loud kids shows and also needing diaper changes
11- no kid meltdowns because they want to watch kid shows even though you need to change their diapers
12- no doing homework again even though you swore you would never do home work again, but now you have to do it better because it's not your homework, it's your KID'S home work and you have to get it right and it feels like it's going to give you a stroke
I feel your pain. has your hair thinned during the process like mine? haha!
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I've seen many....I can't show them...but I've seen them. Also, it seems that many do PCP as well. I've asked one guy about the PCP (he was 5'7 about 180) and he said that it was like Viagra to him...I've seen another dude who was 5'5 (again PCP) and 220, and had forearms that would make Lee Priest proud. He looked like a brick...I"ve noticed that many of the diesel dudes do PCP, it could be the area as well. But, remember tookie used to do PCP as well.
I bet I could bench and curl like crazy with a little PCP in my system. They should put that shit in pre-workout drinks
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“How do prisoners get so big?” Afterall, they eat a terrible, nutrition deprived diet, they probably don’t take any supplements, some of them don’t have weights to lift, they exercise seemingly non-stop. In fact, everything they do in regards to weight training goes against the conventional advice of eat at least 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, don’t lift more than 3 or 4 days per week, drink water non-stop, take supplements, rest when you’re outside of the gym, bodyweight exercises don’t add muscle, exercise one muscle per session only once per week, and don’t exercise for more than 45 minutes a day.
This is another example of why *conventional* advice is always wrong.
(http://boldanddetermined.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/c-23.jpeg)
http://boldanddetermined.com/2011/06/24/how-prisoners-get-so-muscular/
Believe it or not a lot in a lot if prisons you can have protein powder
Also commesary if you have someone wiring you doe you can stock up on all kinds of junk food and snacks and small meals.
Trust me. Iv been to commisary when I was very young and had the opportunity to eat 5000 calories a day on that food. Besides the three meals a day
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Yup ill add.
Better workouts because they aren't getting any sex and need to burn off the aggression.
Low stress levels so their hormones are in check.
Low stress levels in prison.....hahahahaaaaa
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in texas the calorie intake has lowered
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Its called black genetics.
Luke wondering why an ape is so much bigger and stronger than a man while necer lifting a weight.. ::) or how a horse is muscular of eating grass
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Low stress levels in prison.....hahahahaaaaa
I'm I wrong convict?
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I'm I wrong convict?
No convict here, just not stupid.
How about having your freedom, possessions, loved ones taken away and being stuffed 4 to a cell where you will be spending your life for the next 5 years being told when you can eat, when to sleep and living in subhuman conditions ? Maybe that sounds like a good time to you, not me
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5- no diaper changes
6- no crying babies
7- no diaper changes
8- no constant meltdowns
9- no diaper changes (all day long with multiple kids needing diaper changes)
10- no constant smell of diapers that need changing: constantly rushing in and grabbing a kid with a leaky diaper while other kids are crying and/or watching super loud kids shows and also needing diaper changes
11- no kid meltdowns because they want to watch kid shows even though you need to change their diapers
12- no doing homework again even though you swore you would never do home work again, but now you have to do it better because it's not your homework, it's your KID'S home work and you have to get it right and it feels like it's going to give you a stroke
fuck i really pray for miscarriage
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squating guys during the 1 hour daily walk.shoulder pressing the twinks
Getbig would like to hear more, has the makings of a great Short story
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(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=234844&d=1126521199)
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Penitentiary Style Weightlifting Roots
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Interesting, thanks
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I bet I could bench and curl like crazy with a little PCP in my system. They should put that shit in pre-workout drinks
seriously, that is the way they feel. Like they can Bench or curl the world.
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Violent criminals usually have higher than average testosterone production.
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haha i used to throw bags of dog poo over the prison walls as i walked my dog
i wonder if i ever hit any prisoners in the head
L M A O !
I guess nobody would blame you if you got caught either. Haha
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later,bro, have shift change at work 8)
Not sure if you've said before, what work do you do now? Did a criminal record affect your employment in Switzerland?
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they aren't more muscular, you guys have seen too many movies
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L M A O !
I guess nobody would blame you if you got caught either. Haha
clean sidewalks are not a crime your honor
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i came off gear cold turkey straight into prison for couple months once, and i came out quite big anyway.
most shit food one could imagine, no gym, squating guys during the 1 hour daily walk.shoulder pressing the twinks , curling water filled bottles, side raises with the same bottles.dips on bed etc.
genetics.in prison the whaet gets separated from the chaff.
same for social skills,when theres no rules and youre already in there, it shows quickly who is loudmouth and whos not.
What did you notice?
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well, we....
have jobs where we SiT most the day.
when we're not sitting, we're laying down in our bunk watching tv/reading/writing.
get fed 3x/day starchy meals.
trade food we don't want for protein-foods (like egg's, chicken pieces, sausages, ect...)
smuggle powdered milk and powdered eggs from the kitchen.
eat 2-5 jars of peanut butter per week.
get rec-yard/weightlifting every day... twice on weekends.
........... so to recap, we #1 eat a lot of food #2 lay on our ass all day when we're not at work #3 train hard with freeweights 5-6 days a week.
soo.... Food + Rest = you grow... and usually so does your waistline.
now.... with prison, you have A LOT of guys who have GREAT GENETICS that would NEVER have known they had GREAT genetics for muscle, if they hadn't gone to prison and started lifting weights.
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No convict here, just not stupid.
How about having your freedom, possessions, loved ones taken away and being stuffed 4 to a cell where you will be spending your life for the next 5 years being told when you can eat, when to sleep and living in subhuman conditions ? Maybe that sounds like a good time to you, not me
less possessions equal less stress. Not having to pay bills and get to workout and sleep all day is not stressful at all.
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HTexan is right. Prisoners do not suffer the type of stress that lowers testosterone - bills, kids, abnormal sleeping patterns, erratic diet etc.. However, they do suffer from the type of the stress that is proven to increase testosterone levels : heightened danger, heightened awareness, fear of death, fight or flight response etc..
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HTexan is right. Prisoners do not suffer the type of stress that lowers testosterone - bills, kids, abnormal sleeping patterns, erratic diet etc.. However, they do suffer from the type of the stress that is proven to increase testosterone levels : heightened danger, heightened awareness, fear of death, fight or flight response etc..
Really...LOL.
Kids : you can't see your kids and will miss a huge part of their life, no stress there
Bills : you just lost your job and took 20 steps backwards in life...and your car, house and any other outstanding bills you have will go into default, and you will come out with nothing but fucked up credit.....no stress there.
Diet ; prison food is garbage
Sleep: the reason prisoners sleep so much if they are clinically depressed, because they know they are fucked.
You people really can't be this stupid...google "stressful life events"
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Actually what I posted is scientifically verified. I didn't say prisoners don't suffer from stress. I said that they suffer types of stress that are shown to increase testosterone as opposed to types that lower it. I suggest you do the Google searches, actually.
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Actually what I posted is scientifically verified. I didn't say prisoners don't suffer from stress. I said that they suffer types of stress that are shown to increase testosterone as opposed to types that lower it. I suggest you do the Google searches, actually.
Increase by what ? .025 % ? post these studies.
Prison is monumentally stressful, in a negative way.... people hang themselves when facing long jail terms.
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Actually what I posted is scientifically verified. I didn't say prisoners don't suffer from stress. I said that they suffer types of stress that are shown to increase testosterone as opposed to types that lower it. I suggest you do the Google searches, actually.
X2
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Increase by what ? .025 % ? post these studies.
Prison is monumentally stressful, in a negative way.... people hang themselves when facing long jail terms.
depends on what person you are
some prisoners cant deal with the prospect of being released
and commit any crime asap to get back to their beloved prison
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depends on what person you are
some prisoners cant deal with the prospect of being released
and commit any crime asap to get back to their beloved prison
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a friend i grew up with spent 13 years doing that exact thing. Hes been out about a year now and swears he aint going back.
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The S.H.U.
try it. It won't fit well
About 70% of all prisoners return to prison. Amazing.
You wonder, is it because they become instantaneously "institutionalized" or is it b/c they just can't stay away from what it is that put them there in the first place?
Working out for them is not perceived the same as it is for a civilian. They may stay in shape, get in shape, or not. It's not like they are planning to get out and compete in a BB contest, it's just a way to pass the time and try to release aggression.
For anyone here who thinks that they are NOT stressed out of their brains, think again. Just b/c you have not experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The prisoners that make it, especially with the younger generations who want to fight all the time, they are the ones who DON'T show what's really going on inside (their heads)
Weakness is a sign of, well, weakness. It puts a price on your head and a target on your back. You will be toast in a matter of a few easily calculated hours.
The big guys in prison are the prison guards. They are the ones who workout and have the connections. They also deal with many of the same stresses as the prisoners do. It is not a job for everyone.
They just get to go home at night, but they work behind those walls in lockup too. Depressing, to say the least.
"New federal statistics reveal that the number of mentally ill inmates in U.S. prisons and jails has quadrupled over the past six years, Human Rights Watch said today. More than half of all prison and state inmates now report mental health problems, including symptoms of major depression, mania and psychotic disorders, according to a just-released federal Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) report, Mental Health Problems of Prison and Jail Inmates.
In 1998, the BJS reported there were an estimated 283,000 prison and jail inmates who suffered from mental health problems. That number is now estimated to be 1.25 million. The rate of reported mental health disorders in the state prison population is five times greater (56.2 percent) than in the general adult population (11 percent).
Women prisoners have an even higher rate of mental health problems than men: almost three quarters (73 percent) of all women in state prison have mental health problems, compared to 55 percent of men."
You think these people really have the mental fortitude to work out enough to really make a difference? Most of them are either obese like Tank Abbot or they look like Auschwitz struck again ~
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prison guard seems like a fine job
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Its obviously genetics plain and simple. Theres loads of guys who have followed diets, training, and sleeping year after year who never will be huge. I know plenty people like this, same as i also know people who train literally chest, biceps and shoulders 4 times per week, eat junk, party hard, and yet they look amazing. Nothing anyone can do about genetics boys ;)
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Its obviously genetics plain and simple. Theres loads of guys who have followed diets, training, and sleeping year after year who never will be huge. I know plenty people like this, same as i also know people who train literally chest, biceps and shoulders 4 times per week, eat junk, party hard, and yet they look amazing. Nothing anyone can do about genetics boys ;)
truth hurts everytime
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Its obviously genetics plain and simple. Theres loads of guys who have followed diets, training, and sleeping year after year who never will be huge. I know plenty people like this, same as i also know people who train literally chest, biceps and shoulders 4 times per week, eat junk, party hard, and yet they look amazing. Nothing anyone can do about genetics boys ;)
This^.
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The S.H.U.
try it. It won't fit well
About 70% of all prisoners return to prison. Amazing.
You wonder, is it because they become instantaneously "institutionalized" or is it b/c they just can't stay away from what it is that put them there in the first place?
Working out for them is not perceived the same as it is for a civilian. They may stay in shape, get in shape, or not. It's not like they are planning to get out and compete in a BB contest, it's just a way to pass the time and try to release aggression.
For anyone here who thinks that they are NOT stressed out of their brains, think again. Just b/c you have not experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The prisoners that make it, especially with the younger generations who want to fight all the time, they are the ones who DON'T show what's really going on inside (their heads)
Weakness is a sign of, well, weakness. It puts a price on your head and a target on your back. You will be toast in a matter of a few easily calculated hours.
The big guys in prison are the prison guards. They are the ones who workout and have the connections. They also deal with many of the same stresses as the prisoners do. It is not a job for everyone.
They just get to go home at night, but they work behind those walls in lockup too. Depressing, to say the least.
"New federal statistics reveal that the number of mentally ill inmates in U.S. prisons and jails has quadrupled over the past six years, Human Rights Watch said today. More than half of all prison and state inmates now report mental health problems, including symptoms of major depression, mania and psychotic disorders, according to a just-released federal Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) report, Mental Health Problems of Prison and Jail Inmates.
In 1998, the BJS reported there were an estimated 283,000 prison and jail inmates who suffered from mental health problems. That number is now estimated to be 1.25 million. The rate of reported mental health disorders in the state prison population is five times greater (56.2 percent) than in the general adult population (11 percent).
Women prisoners have an even higher rate of mental health problems than men: almost three quarters (73 percent) of all women in state prison have mental health problems, compared to 55 percent of men."
You think these people really have the mental fortitude to work out enough to really make a difference? Most of them are either obese like Tank Abbot or they look like Auschwitz struck again ~
This. But of course here on Getbig everyone is hard as nails and can do ten years standing on their head ::)